Logical reasoning & Reading Comprehension are definitely the more difficult portions of the exam. It’s mainly cause of the amount of time you have to complete them and the longevity of each question. The exam also explained that they wanted the word problems to be difficult, but other than that everybody should do excellent on the exam
I scored "best qualified" on my exam. I followed the all the tips you provided in the video. I also used the left hand, chest and right hand for the math portion, it help out greatly. Also, the math for the collision test i found ridiculously hard. I just focused on preventing collisions with minimal moves and only answered the questions that I felt I confidently knew the answers to.
So I applied i think in June or July of 2021. Got the test date at the end of November, like a day or two after Thanksgiving. I received the offer on like January 31st. So the start date i believe comes in after your get your security clearance and then when the next available classes are. I received an offer from another offer from an aerospace company and decided to pursue that route. I applied for the ATC kind of as a joke to see if I could get in, no offense, but to my surprise, I got the offer. The security clearance is still being processed through my other company. I hear that process could take like up to 2 years. So it'll be awhile before you can get that official start date. Good luck if you go down the ATC route.
@@kennethbrewton5931 I did one study session. I should've prepped more. To each may vary. But do some kind of study though. Without it, I know I would've bombed it. It gave me an idea as to whats to come. Also, I hope your good at word problems. I guessed on almost all of those.
This reminds me of the Air Force TBAS test. A lot of spatial awareness, reasoning and multi-tasking. I did the same thing where I ignored the math problems and focused on "flying" the airplane
i just took the ATSA this morning! The most difficult part was definitely the logical reasoning portion because there's a 20min time limit and underneath the question there is an animated countdown bar that you have to look at - it really kicks the stress levels up.
I just took it and yes I agree with you about the logical reasoning. I’m sooo mad because I didn’t answer all the questions in time and I know that’s a big deduction 😢 I’m just down now because I feel like that messed up my whole score
Wow google saved me the test preparations on the test invite says no prep was needed glad I came across this video. Now I’m scared cause my test is so soon
Same here. I was excited when i got the email and scheduled the test for the following week. Then i reluctantly searched what the test is all about and found this and rescheduled it for next month. haha
@@EternalMangekyoSlave the collision section of the practice test has me stressing. I can’t seem to get anything above 63%-68% collision avoidance success rate I’m going back and forth between medium and hard mainly hard. I feel like easy is a waste of time and for both I’m just staying in that range
@@Everything_Teighlord if your playing on hard or normal you'll be fine. Highest i ever got on normal was 88%. U will be suprised how slow it actually feels on the test
I scored “Well qualified” thank you for the prep I got from this I’m still nervous about what comes after but I’m through the process now and hopefully I can pass the academy.
Thanks @jobtestprep, I found the practice useful when taking my exam today. I noticed in the video, you mentioned having to schedule another appointment in order to do the last few sections of the test. This was my first appointment and I did each section. Word problems, personality test, and reading comprehension.
I take my test in 2 days , i started studying about 3 days ago and have been cramming his test prep. Fingers crossed it helps me do well! Wish me luck 😅
I’m currently going back for my second ATSA to improve my score. Last time, the hardest part for me was the images game. The number of variables to account for within two seconds was too great. You have to identify the reference point, identify the question point, decided if it’s right or left of the reference, read the prompt Left? or Right?, then decided if it’s true or false. Two seconds! Then, in part two, you add the extra step “if there’s an eyeball, answer the opposite of what you would have in Part One.” It’s truly agonizing. Oh well. Hoping to do better this go around.
Did you have to schedule 2 appointments in order to complete all the sections to the test? My test had all the sections. The video confused me when he stated "after the first 4 sections, you'll be asked to schedule another appointment in order to do the last few sections"
Fully Qualified means that you are able to work actual, live, daily air traffic Alone with no help or supervision. At slower facilities this could take several months and the busier facilities can take upwards of three years. A little advice for all of you considering becoming an air traffic controller: You will be required to work nights, weekends, and holidays. You have to think that being an Air Traffic Controller is the COOLEST most EXCITING thing you could possibly do. You have to WANT to be a controller. If you’re just looking for a paycheck, find something else. -32 year FAA controller And despite all of the Thanksgiving dinners, Christmas mornings, New Year’s Eve parties, and Super Bowls that I missed, I’d do it all again
Well I past the ATC exam and got “best qualified” it shocked me cause I’m definitely not SMART... I feel like what really helped me with this guide is the part of the test where it shows the STC radar simulation. The best advice I can give anyone to pass this test is PRACTICE YOUR NUM PAD SKILLS. I’m really fast with typing but I suck at the num pad. If I didn’t get this study guide, I definitely would’ve failed. But I already past all the steps to get in! Now I’m just waiting to hear back from the FAA hopefully with a firm offer letter and a start date. I feel like other than the exam, the MMPI test is where most people fail to get in …
Hey I have a question. Well first congratulations on passing. For the radar test, was it a long portion where the planes were flying by? Like were the planes always going fast?
@@EyeDisagreeWithYou I think for all portions of the test it was about the same length of time. Maybe around 15 minutes long if I can remember right. It sped up a little bit. I don’t think it sped up as fast as the study guide but it was showing math equations at the same time which most of them I took a quick guess on tbh 😂 I’d rather get those wrong than collide the dots.
I applied in June I finally received an email from the FAA telling me that I qualified, I didn’t take my test yet but I also do not have any experience in this field and I don’t want to take a test knowing I’m 9/10 going to fail with no experience. Is this practice test going to help me with understanding the ATSA test and sharpen me up for the real deal ? I’ve always loved planes and airports and just everything about it I would definitely love to one day be in that control tower making things happen.
100%! I just took this test a few weeks ago and the test prep this site provides is identical to the real deal. Had I not purchased it, I would have been screwed I feel.
@@AyyyeILikeYou08 I’d practice about a half hour a day for 2 weeks. Basically just practicing my weaker areas for a little bit. Made a huge difference.
@@zaccourter6226 thank you! Would you say the simulation was similar to the test prep? I had read something online that said the test prep was harder than the actual test
Unfortunately right as I saw C - 3 someone walked in the room and broke my concentration but after rewatching it i paused and it took me about 5-10 seconds.
@@davidwashington3912 The math is about as difficult as a high school entrance exam. But you have very little time to calculate. I would say the main difficulty is the fact that once you start a section, it keeps going continuously for long periods of time and your mind doesn’t really catch a break.
@@alexisfunes318 I did, however, I did not get “Best qualified”. I had no idea what I was doing on the personality test so I probably got ding’d a few times there. I also forgot that on the simulation where you have to avoid collisions, they speed it up during the part when they start asking math questions. I wasn’t prepared for it and had a couple more balls collide than I would otherwise.
@@JobtestprepUk It went great! Thankful for your practice test! I feel like the advanced was way harder then the actual test and really prepared me well.
What percentage scores on the simulator practice would be considered good enough to get best qualified? Any idea what someone should be scoring on those practice tests to anticipate getting best qualified?
How long is each section? Job Test Prep offers the 1st memory game in multiple lengths (2 minutes, 6 minutes etc.) but on the test, how long do they expect you to do it for? Just wondering so I can mentally prepare myself. How long is each section?
I'm told that the math questions in the ATC simulation are not scored for accuracy but are scored based on how many you answer. Or at the very least, it is worse to leave it unanswered. Is this correct?
How the hell are you supposed to do those math question while avoiding collisions... I cant do those even without the collisions part. Does it make more sense to just focus on tje circles and not do the math?! Wow
Looking for any tips on the personality test! The first time I took it, I answered what I thought was accurate for me. I scored 3/10. So I went though each question where it shows you the explanation. I feel like it’s more of a game and less answering honestly. I then redid the test 2 more times and still scored 3/10. I’ve scored well on other types of personally tests, as far as having a good personality for the job. I’m currently a 911 Dispatcher in a busy center so I truly believe I possess the right traits and skills to be an ATC Specialist. Any tips are greatly appreciated!
I am sorry to hear about your experience, personality tests can often be frustrating. The most important tip when completing personality tests is knowing which are the key qualities for your role and recognizing the statements that assess them. Since the ATSA personality test instructs you to choose statements that best describe you among several options, you should first identify which items express the key characteristics for your job, and favor those over other possible answers. In our full preparation, we have created a practice test and guide to help you choose answers that best reflect your strengths for the role. I hope this helps, best of luck!
Proper Personality tests are designed to get nearly same result everytime. Also Personality tests don't normally have a score like 3/10. Maybe they are scoring your similarity to the typical ATC Personality types
Bro, I'm in the same exact boat. I've taken the personality test 4 times and the first 3 times, I got 3 out of 10. After reading the explanations for some of the answers, I retook the test again and got 4 out of 10. I'm taking the ATSA tomorrow and I think the personality test and ATC simulation might be my downfall
@@kevinnorris6558 I just took the ATSA 2 days ago! Overall, it was easier than expected but certainly is still challenging. This test prep pack was so helpful! My weakest section was the ATC simulation. I think I had 6 or 7 collisions over all rounds of that test. (I think there were 4 or 5 rounds but I don’t remember now). The rest of it I felt pretty confident in. I struggled with the logical reasoning on the test prep but the real test was easier I think. I only took one 5 minute break so I finished the test in 2 hours and 20 minutes. I was so focused I didn’t want to break that by taking breaks. I left feeling pretty good about it. Fingers crossed I scored best qualified! Good luck to you tomorrow!
Hi, It's exactly as you ask. In this game the numbers keep changing, each time a number appears you have to enter the difference between this number and the previous number shown.
@@kystokes7725 I took my 3 months ago and I still don’t have results. I know with it being the holiday that make it even more delayed but man it’s taking a long time
Well, it depends on how much time you have each day, but I would recommend taking at least two weeks to fully prepare (without feeling like you are running out of time). Most test takers who use our preparation choose to prepare between 1-3 months. But remember- if you are short on time, even a single day of practice can make a noticeable difference in performance!
i already have my pink card, as well as one rating (ive got two years experience as an air traffic controller in the army national guard) do you think this will give me any advantage?
In short, yes, you will be looked at first, before any OTS "Off the Streets" candidate. What happens is that you will be put in pool 1 because you're a Veteran with aviation experience, while pool 2 is for all US citizens. You will still have to take the ATSA and get a high score on it, but you have better chances of getting to the next stage. I explain all about it in the FAQ section on our page: www.jobtestprep.com/at-sat-test-prep#atsa-faq And you can read about it in the FAA's FAQ here: faa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/474
@@coolonthelowe it was a little different bro idk why no one ha said what I about to. The practice test is smooth and nice to look at. The actual test is like it's on windows 96. The prep test does a great job in preparing you for every portion except the visual awareness left right test and the personality test. The collision portion is waaay easier than expected. You see the collision coming from a mile away. And the math questions in that collision portion are easy as well. Btw the math questions part asks you to press "A,S,D or F" to select the answer, you don't click on it with your mouse. All the math and visuals/collision stuff is first then it's the personality reading and reasoning. Each section lets you take as many practice tests as you want before taking the actual test except the personality I think.
@FRIDAY yeah I study the visual awareness the most I was getting 59/60 on the test prep. But yet I was least prepared for on the actual test. Seeing the eyeballs directly in front of the plane is all different directions through me off. I had a came up with strategy for the test prep but threw that out the window on the test. The math was the easiest. I probably got 4 wrong out of 90. The testprep was way harder imo for that section.
They will give you two numbers 3 and 6 and you have to type the difference. So the difference between 3 and 6 would be 3 then they will give you a new number like 4 and you would need to type the difference between 4 and 6 which is 2. Always use the last number they gave you and not the last number that you entered. so if they gave you another number after the last set of numbers which were 4 and 6 = 2 and they give you 5 you would give the difference between 6 and 5 which is 1. I'm not sure if this helps at all however there is an app called ATSAPro that you can download on your phone that has the practice for this section if you need and is i believe i paid about 10 bucks on the google play store for if you don't have any of the other programs... it helps a lot. ( the picture of the app is black and gray much like with a place and dots) Also before you start each section of the test, The program allows you to take the practice test as many times as you'd like before taking each section. Just be careful not to overwhelm yourself with too much practice between sections on the test.
Hello! I am currently practicing for my ATSA test coming up and I had a few questions that maybe you could answer: 1. What is the desired percentage score for the Collision Avoidance Success Rate and the Reroute Efficiency Rate on the ATSA Collision Simulation? 2. What other techniques are there for the 2nd Memory Game - Variables? The "left hand, chest, right hand" technique works until I get to the harder parts then I find myself slowing down quite a bit. These are the two that I am struggling with the most. I appreciate any help! Thank you!
@@calebcharelus8169 I'll try to answer all of your questions. I hope there's still time. 1. I'm afraid the FAA doesn't release any score reports or data about the collision simulator, but I can tell you that our hardest mode is harder than the real test so if you can get to 70%-80% Collision Avoidance Success Rate you can really ace the test. one of our customers wrote on the pointsixtyfive forum: "I was practicing Job’s collision sim for five minutes tops on the most difficult setting, and I was getting anywhere from 70-80% collision avoidance and 55-65% efficiency" and that he "had a total of 5 collisions on both sections of the test, not on each section". You can find his post here, it contains a full breakdown of the test - pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/faa-ato-21-allsrce-73599.4714/page-28#post-129335 2. Some candidates suggested saying out loud or mouthing silently the variables and equations and you can even tap yourself while saying the words. Like I said in the video, the most important thing is to practice the technique that works for you and not try to invent something new on the actual test. 3. Some of the sections are not timed, like the personality test, and some of the games are limited but not exactly timed - they just have a number of rounds. The timed sections that I know of are the reading comprehension and the logical reasoning sections, I'm not sure exactly how long. The first memory game is said to be 8 rounds, each about 2 minutes. I'm afraid I don't know a lot more of the exact times, but yes, the total time is 2 hours and 49 minutes, and you have another 30 minutes of break time, that you can divide however you want it. Some candidates mentioned that they didn't want too many breaks as it interrupted their concentration. You can read more about the ATSA on this forum which is very helpful - pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/atsa-compilation.545/
Anyone have good practice/study tips for the variable equation memory section? It’s particularly harder when the value is C so it throws off what you memorized for a and b.
I just applied for the opening yesterday. Ive seen the 30 years of age max. My question is i am currently 30 but will be 31 in a few months so will i still be qualified?
Hi Brandon, according to the FAA requirements, you have to be at the age of 30 (or under) by the end of the closing date of the application period. So you should remain qualified regardless of your birthday. Good luck!
I just took my ATSA today. This program helped tremendously. I know I aced the memory sections, and the visual/spatial relationship section. Radar sim I think I did pretty good but the formatting was a bit different on the real test. In each new round the dots just pop up in the middle of the screen and most of them were heading directly for eachother, you had very little time to react. This was the biggest contrast to the practice material where the dots just randomly enter the screen from different areas. So I had a few collisions on the harder portions on the real test. But overall I think I did ok. Reading comprehension and personality test were pretty accurate. The Logic/Deductive reasoning was by far the hardest on the real test, way tougher than your material.
@@scottf1592 Well Qualified and eventually ended up getting a TOL and now I'm waiting for a start date! I think I got super lucky with that. I practiced the memory/spatial relationship/radar sims for months and nailed it on the test. I think what screwed me over the most on the real test was the logic section. It was so hard I ran out of time!
@@ryandavis191 Was there anything on the real test not mentioned in this video. I keep reading about the word problems but no one expands on it. Are they math or just Logic/Deductive reasoning
In the actual test, the equations are shown one after the other without the option to pause between them. You don't have the option to write them down as well.
@@JobtestprepUk I'm considering not even going to my testing venue today. I'm so bad at all this stuff lol. My mother wanted me to go but I already have a job
@@CopperScott Don't overthink this. There's no harm in taking the test and failing it. However, if you really don't want the job, I totally understand.
You are right saying that the visual awareness/ visual relationship game is one of the hardest parts in the ATSA. Our preparation pack does include tailored practice tests for it, aimed at improving accuracy and speed. You are welcome to read more about this test and the practice we offer on our designated ATSA test page: www.jobtestprep.com/at-sat-test-prep
This ATSA exam prep is the sole reason I scored best qualified last September. Excellent test prep and identical to the actual exam. I would have bombed the exam without this prep.
Congrats bro. I got Well-Qualified. I think the spatial/visual and the simulation got me into this category. Hope to see you at training sometime this year.
Me too man. Prepared well for the test but not for the day, didn't sleep well the night before. Anyways from what I've seen online, reddit, they're going to select from the well-qualified and best-qualified pool first and if there are any positions remaining, which there should be because the industry is in need of controllers, they'll look into the qualified pool. Hopefully you have an atc degrees/certificate or military experience or even work experience that can boost your chances. I hope they look at percentages and not just the category because someone who is considered qualified may have scored an 84.5% which is just under what is needed to become well qualified.
@@tayeelshaikh9228 I am staying optimistic that they will hire a big enough group of people this time around that maybe they will pull people from the “qualified” category as well. I am 30 years old so if I don’t get in this time around I’ll be too old by the time they post the next one. I’ve heard there is a shortage of air traffic controllers nationwide so hopefully that will work in our favor. I’ve heard over 57,000 applied to the posting, however I’d be more interested in knowing how many people received a passing score on the test. I’d guess that number is probably about 10% of the number of people who applied. Of course I don’t know that for sure.
@@tylergoethe9422 I'm in the same boat man, 30 years old. I felt bummed out to see me only get qualified because it is such a strenuous and time-consuming process. To hear back from just applying was a blessing and now this. Lol I'm somewhat optimistic. Just staying prepared tho, wanna stand out if you do get selected. But I would review the age limit thing, because I think so long as you don't turn 31 prior to the position opening date, you have a chance. There was also something about if you were selected at some stage, I forget which stage, when you originally applied you also don't have to worry about age.
I got a “Qualified” score too and still patiently waiting. Just hate being in the dark right now. Best of luck to y’all though. Hopefully it’ll all work out.
If anyone wants to know anything please ask me and I’ll check back in a few days. I only say this because I was one of you. Nervous about everything especially the test.
do you have to pay? also my uncle sent me the application bc hes a high up in atc and he sent me some old study guides including (reading dials math and angle ) but i feel like this is out dated when i watch all of these videos on this test!c= can you let me know if these questions are on the test @@kingmakour3698
Hi, The test and simulation should be running smoothly. We are aware that in some cases there are local issues that interfere with the simulation- to help solve those our support team is available 24/7 and would happily assist. Please contact us at info@jobtestprep.com with full details!
To be honest it was pretty easy the only part i know I did bad on was answering what side of the big plane is the small plane on the questions move so fast I’m not exaggerating when I say u get about 4 seconds tops to answer each question other than that you should be fine and I didn’t study too much either
@@janaechristina I watched a couple videos on UA-cam and checked out some threads on Reddit. Lots of stuff in r/atc. I recommend getting a goodnight sleep and eat before you go in. They make you sign an NDA for the test. The test itself requires no previous education or knowledge. If you have a good memory and can handle pressure you will do well. It’s definitely not an easy test I’d say.
I heard back yesterday and scheduled mine for October 3rd. I could've took the test at the closest center to me on October 26, but I didn't want to wait that long. Good luck to you
Taking the AT-SA next week, anxious but excited.. hoping everyone that’s taking the test gets best qualified ‼️
Good luck
How did it go?
taking mine tomorrow!
@@aswuan how did it go? Any advice. I take mine on the 19th
@@coolonthelowe sameee
Thank you for this test prep! I purchased it and I am so glad I did! I passed the test “best qualified”! I’m so excited!
Congratulations! I'm glad we were able to help :)
Did you land the job
Did you use any other practice books to help you study?
Does scoring “best qualified” pretty much guarantee you got the job? Or is it just a way better chance? Thanks!
So, did you get a job offer?
Logical reasoning & Reading Comprehension are definitely the more difficult portions of the exam. It’s mainly cause of the amount of time you have to complete them and the longevity of each question. The exam also explained that they wanted the word problems to be difficult, but other than that everybody should do excellent on the exam
Did you have to schedule a new appointment to complete the last few sections? My first appointment had me complete all the test sections on the test
Yes. In some ways, so is the personality, as that part can be subjective.
I scored "best qualified" on my exam. I followed the all the tips you provided in the video. I also used the left hand, chest and right hand for the math portion, it help out greatly. Also, the math for the collision test i found ridiculously hard. I just focused on preventing collisions with minimal moves and only answered the questions that I felt I confidently knew the answers to.
Congratulations on your score! That's really impressive, and good job and following the tips and using the best methods- that's how it's done!
Awesome! How long after you applied did you get to take the test? And have you gotten a start date yet?
So I applied i think in June or July of 2021. Got the test date at the end of November, like a day or two after Thanksgiving. I received the offer on like January 31st. So the start date i believe comes in after your get your security clearance and then when the next available classes are. I received an offer from another offer from an aerospace company and decided to pursue that route. I applied for the ATC kind of as a joke to see if I could get in, no offense, but to my surprise, I got the offer. The security clearance is still being processed through my other company. I hear that process could take like up to 2 years. So it'll be awhile before you can get that official start date. Good luck if you go down the ATC route.
@@OneTheWhat how long did you study for the test?
@@kennethbrewton5931 I did one study session. I should've prepped more. To each may vary. But do some kind of study though. Without it, I know I would've bombed it. It gave me an idea as to whats to come. Also, I hope your good at word problems. I guessed on almost all of those.
This reminds me of the Air Force TBAS test. A lot of spatial awareness, reasoning and multi-tasking. I did the same thing where I ignored the math problems and focused on "flying" the airplane
I got my TOL today. Pool 2/best qualified. Took the test on 9/29/2022.
Hey I got took my test on 9/11. And got my results of best qualified five days later. How long did the security clearance take after you got your TOL?
i just took the ATSA this morning! The most difficult part was definitely the logical reasoning portion because there's a 20min time limit and underneath the question there is an animated countdown bar that you have to look at - it really kicks the stress levels up.
I took the test today too! The countdown bar definitely made things more stressful. 😩I hope you did well!
Good luck to both of you!
@@rayofsunshan thank you! ☺️
I just took it and yes I agree with you about the logical reasoning. I’m sooo mad because I didn’t answer all the questions in time and I know that’s a big deduction 😢 I’m just down now because I feel like that messed up my whole score
@@Rae9428 I didn’t answer them all either. Hopefully that doesn’t affect our scores too much.
Wow google saved me the test preparations on the test invite says no prep was needed glad I came across this video. Now I’m scared cause my test is so soon
Same here. I was excited when i got the email and scheduled the test for the following week. Then i reluctantly searched what the test is all about and found this and rescheduled it for next month. haha
A= 2, B = 4, C = 3
I did rewind to read it a few times admittedly, but it only took me a minute or so
is that part of the FEAST TEST?
Just got my results back from the most recent bid and got "Best Qualified" all the tips definitely helped out.
Congratulations!! Do you remember about how long the collision portion is on the test?
@@Everything_Teighlord if i remember right its somewhere between 8-10 rounds. I ignored 75 % of the equations csude they had decimals
@@EternalMangekyoSlave the collision section of the practice test has me stressing. I can’t seem to get anything above 63%-68% collision avoidance success rate I’m going back and forth between medium and hard mainly hard. I feel like easy is a waste of time and for both I’m just staying in that range
@@Everything_Teighlord if your playing on hard or normal you'll be fine. Highest i ever got on normal was 88%. U will be suprised how slow it actually feels on the test
@@EternalMangekyoSlave ok great to know thank you!
I got 2 as an answer. It took me about 2 minutes cause I had to keep rewinding until I saw about your tips I have to put that into practice.
I assume you're referring to the 2nd Memory Game - Variables. It's definitely hard and practice can be immensely helpful. Let us know if it improves!
I scored “Well qualified” thank you for the prep I got from this I’m still nervous about what comes after but I’m through the process now and hopefully I can pass the academy.
Thanks @jobtestprep, I found the practice useful when taking my exam today. I noticed in the video, you mentioned having to schedule another appointment in order to do the last few sections of the test. This was my first appointment and I did each section. Word problems, personality test, and reading comprehension.
How did it went
I take my test in 2 days , i started studying about 3 days ago and have been cramming his test prep. Fingers crossed it helps me do well! Wish me luck 😅
How did it go? Just curious. I take mine in 5 days
Following up too!
how did it go?
I’m currently going back for my second ATSA to improve my score. Last time, the hardest part for me was the images game. The number of variables to account for within two seconds was too great. You have to identify the reference point, identify the question point, decided if it’s right or left of the reference, read the prompt Left? or Right?, then decided if it’s true or false. Two seconds! Then, in part two, you add the extra step “if there’s an eyeball, answer the opposite of what you would have in Part One.”
It’s truly agonizing. Oh well. Hoping to do better this go around.
I had trouble with the images too, how long did it take to get your score?
@@friday4557 I completed my second test today. I do not remember how long the results take.
Did you have to schedule 2 appointments in order to complete all the sections to the test? My test had all the sections. The video confused me when he stated "after the first 4 sections, you'll be asked to schedule another appointment in order to do the last few sections"
@@frobro1346 Only one sitting. The only division I saw was between gameified and non-gameified, in order respectively.
@@inc0mingr0flc0pter Ok, thanks a ton. Best of luck to you !
What did you mean when you said getting fully qualified can take years? I already have a secret clearance so hopefully that takes some time off
Fully Qualified means that you are able to work actual, live, daily air traffic Alone with no help or supervision.
At slower facilities this could take several months and the busier facilities can take upwards of three years.
A little advice for all of you considering becoming an air traffic controller:
You will be required to work nights, weekends, and holidays.
You have to think that being an Air Traffic Controller is the COOLEST most EXCITING thing you could possibly do.
You have to WANT to be a controller.
If you’re just looking for a paycheck, find something else.
-32 year FAA controller
And despite all of the Thanksgiving dinners, Christmas mornings, New Year’s Eve parties, and Super Bowls that I missed, I’d do it all again
This test seems really hard but I really want this job I’m going to practice and practice
I’m is scareddddddd of this test fr
Don’t be
Did you take it?
@@tayeelshaikh9228 Are you asking me?? If so then yes
@@lexib383 Did you take the practice test and if you did how did it compare?
are you allowed to talk out loud while doing the test? please let me know bc this is how i’m completing the memory selection
Well I past the ATC exam and got “best qualified” it shocked me cause I’m definitely not SMART... I feel like what really helped me with this guide is the part of the test where it shows the STC radar simulation. The best advice I can give anyone to pass this test is PRACTICE YOUR NUM PAD SKILLS. I’m really fast with typing but I suck at the num pad. If I didn’t get this study guide, I definitely would’ve failed. But I already past all the steps to get in! Now I’m just waiting to hear back from the FAA hopefully with a firm offer letter and a start date. I feel like other than the exam, the MMPI test is where most people fail to get in …
Hey I have a question. Well first congratulations on passing. For the radar test, was it a long portion where the planes were flying by? Like were the planes always going fast?
@@EyeDisagreeWithYou I think for all portions of the test it was about the same length of time. Maybe around 15 minutes long if I can remember right. It sped up a little bit. I don’t think it sped up as fast as the study guide but it was showing math equations at the same time which most of them I took a quick guess on tbh 😂 I’d rather get those wrong than collide the dots.
Hey I got took my test on 9/11. And got my results of best qualified five days later. How long did it take to receive your offer letter?
@@darvisshaw5325 quicker than I thought. Maybe a month after the test? But the firm offer letter I’m still waiting on
@@kaleo6096 Thanks! Hope everything works out for you!
I applied in June I finally received an email from the FAA telling me that I qualified, I didn’t take my test yet but I also do not have any experience in this field and I don’t want to take a test knowing I’m 9/10 going to fail with no experience. Is this practice test going to help me with understanding the ATSA test and sharpen me up for the real deal ? I’ve always loved planes and airports and just everything about it I would definitely love to one day be in that control tower making things happen.
100%! I just took this test a few weeks ago and the test prep this site provides is identical to the real deal. Had I not purchased it, I would have been screwed I feel.
@@zaccourter6226 how long did you practice?
@@AyyyeILikeYou08 I’d practice about a half hour a day for 2 weeks. Basically just practicing my weaker areas for a little bit. Made a huge difference.
@@zaccourter6226 thank you! Would you say the simulation was similar to the test prep? I had read something online that said the test prep was harder than the actual test
@@zaccourter6226did you pass?
Unfortunately right as I saw C - 3 someone walked in the room and broke my concentration but after rewatching it i paused and it took me about 5-10 seconds.
Very nice! Hopefully, in the assessment center, you won't have people interfering with your concentration!
Where can I find that exact ATC Radar Simulaton? Would like to use it for a Psych study, plus it is very simple in design and easier to look at.
Oh yeah this is it for me. Congratulations everyone else you’re going to get in because of me 😂😭
I finally got the email!
I took my test Nov 1st!
I am in pool 2 with best Qualified
Well done!
I got the same email today!
Offer letter received earlier this evening!
Now some of you’ll have a timeline to go off! 🤝🏾‼️
Congratulations!!
Just took mine today. These should be training exercises that middle schoolers do to be honest. Very engaging
Was it that easy?
@@davidwashington3912 The math is about as difficult as a high school entrance exam. But you have very little time to calculate. I would say the main difficulty is the fact that once you start a section, it keeps going continuously for long periods of time and your mind doesn’t really catch a break.
@@ralegade7710 sorry can I ask if did u pass?
@@alexisfunes318 I did, however, I did not get “Best qualified”. I had no idea what I was doing on the personality test so I probably got ding’d a few times there. I also forgot that on the simulation where you have to avoid collisions, they speed it up during the part when they start asking math questions. I wasn’t prepared for it and had a couple more balls collide than I would otherwise.
Hello Robert A here, I am a current subscriber to JobTestPrep and have the Air Traffic Controller Test Practice (ATSA) results
Hi Robert, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. Did you take the actual test already and get the results? How did the test go?
Thanks for the video! Bought the practice test and have been practicing for months. I take it tomorrow!
Thank you! How did it go?
@@JobtestprepUk It went great! Thankful for your practice test! I feel like the advanced was way harder then the actual test and really prepared me well.
Ahhhh I'm so nervous. I'm gonna use the test prep stuff ya'll got and hopefully get a good score. I'll let ya'll know if it goes well in a year or so.
What percentage scores on the simulator practice would be considered good enough to get best qualified? Any idea what someone should be scoring on those practice tests to anticipate getting best qualified?
How long is each section? Job Test Prep offers the 1st memory game in multiple lengths (2 minutes, 6 minutes etc.) but on the test, how long do they expect you to do it for? Just wondering so I can mentally prepare myself. How long is each section?
Bought this test prep 3 weeks right before i took the ATSA passed as “best qualified”and got my TOL this week. Definitely recommend buying it!
I'm told that the math questions in the ATC simulation are not scored for accuracy but are scored based on how many you answer. Or at the very least, it is worse to leave it unanswered. Is this correct?
Are your tests up to date and do they help me alao for the tests in Skyguide(Switzerland) ????
Just took my exam! not as hard as people make it out to be in my opinion. Highly recommend buying the test prep, I was fully prepared!
Hello, got my test results back as “qualified” how long does it take for an offer to be sent by email?
1-2 months
Did you get an offer? Which pool?
How the hell are you supposed to do those math question while avoiding collisions... I cant do those even without the collisions part. Does it make more sense to just focus on tje circles and not do the math?! Wow
I take my test Wednesday and I’m slightly nervous. Any free practice test out there?
Looking for any tips on the personality test! The first time I took it, I answered what I thought was accurate for me. I scored 3/10. So I went though each question where it shows you the explanation. I feel like it’s more of a game and less answering honestly. I then redid the test 2 more times and still scored 3/10. I’ve scored well on other types of personally tests, as far as having a good personality for the job. I’m currently a 911 Dispatcher in a busy center so I truly believe I possess the right traits and skills to be an ATC Specialist. Any tips are greatly appreciated!
I am sorry to hear about your experience, personality tests can often be frustrating. The most important tip when completing personality tests is knowing which are the key qualities for your role and recognizing the statements that assess them. Since the ATSA personality test instructs you to choose statements that best describe you among several options, you should first identify which items express the key characteristics for your job, and favor those over other possible answers.
In our full preparation, we have created a practice test and guide to help you choose answers that best reflect your strengths for the role.
I hope this helps, best of luck!
Proper Personality tests are designed to get nearly same result everytime. Also Personality tests don't normally have a score like 3/10. Maybe they are scoring your similarity to the typical ATC Personality types
Bro, I'm in the same exact boat. I've taken the personality test 4 times and the first 3 times, I got 3 out of 10. After reading the explanations for some of the answers, I retook the test again and got 4 out of 10. I'm taking the ATSA tomorrow and I think the personality test and ATC simulation might be my downfall
@@kevinnorris6558 I just took the ATSA 2 days ago! Overall, it was easier than expected but certainly is still challenging. This test prep pack was so helpful! My weakest section was the ATC simulation. I think I had 6 or 7 collisions over all rounds of that test. (I think there were 4 or 5 rounds but I don’t remember now). The rest of it I felt pretty confident in. I struggled with the logical reasoning on the test prep but the real test was easier I think. I only took one 5 minute break so I finished the test in 2 hours and 20 minutes. I was so focused I didn’t want to break that by taking breaks. I left feeling pretty good about it. Fingers crossed I scored best qualified! Good luck to you tomorrow!
@@johnathanalbert3762 How long was each round for the ATC simulation?
Can someone explain how the difference memory game works? Do you just subtract the number with the last number?
Hi,
It's exactly as you ask. In this game the numbers keep changing, each time a number appears you have to enter the difference between this number and the previous number shown.
Just finished my test. Does anyone know how long until I get the results?
Any pointers? I take mine Monday
On the radar simulator with the math. Just Mainly focus on the radar part. @quintaviouslowe441
@@kystokes7725 I took my 3 months ago and I still don’t have results. I know with it being the holiday that make it even more delayed but man it’s taking a long time
check the site The results are out
LETS GO
How long would you suggest one should study for the test before they schedule their assessment? A week, one month, or 2? @onethewhat
Sorry meant to tag @jobtestprep for my above question
Well, it depends on how much time you have each day, but I would recommend taking at least two weeks to fully prepare (without feeling like you are running out of time). Most test takers who use our preparation choose to prepare between 1-3 months. But remember- if you are short on time, even a single day of practice can make a noticeable difference in performance!
A month. practice everyday for at least 30 minutes.
Taking it next week fingers crossed that I do good🤞🏻🤞🏻
i just paid to take the practice test and it took my money but won't let me take the practice test. can anyone help?
i already have my pink card, as well as one rating (ive got two years experience as an air traffic controller in the army national guard) do you think this will give me any advantage?
In short, yes, you will be looked at first, before any OTS "Off the Streets" candidate.
What happens is that you will be put in pool 1 because you're a Veteran with aviation experience, while pool 2 is for all US citizens. You will still have to take the ATSA and get a high score on it, but you have better chances of getting to the next stage.
I explain all about it in the FAQ section on our page: www.jobtestprep.com/at-sat-test-prep#atsa-faq
And you can read about it in the FAA's FAQ here: faa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/474
Any tips for one that isn’t good at math but still wants to go for it
Get good at math. There are methods to quickly solve things like 7268 x 2796. Numbers have patterns
@@iHasaComputer I’m trying hope I get there
Nervous is an understatement…my exam is on Dec.12…wish me luck!
Same! Good luck!
@Tayeb Elshaikh how did it go bro. Any advice?
@@coolonthelowe it was a little different bro idk why no one ha said what I about to.
The practice test is smooth and nice to look at. The actual test is like it's on windows 96. The prep test does a great job in preparing you for every portion except the visual awareness left right test and the personality test. The collision portion is waaay easier than expected. You see the collision coming from a mile away. And the math questions in that collision portion are easy as well. Btw the math questions part asks you to press "A,S,D or F" to select the answer, you don't click on it with your mouse.
All the math and visuals/collision stuff is first then it's the personality reading and reasoning. Each section lets you take as many practice tests as you want before taking the actual test except the personality I think.
@@tayeelshaikh9228 the visual awareness left or right was the curveball. you have 5 secs to answer I started panicking half way through.
@FRIDAY yeah I study the visual awareness the most I was getting 59/60 on the test prep. But yet I was least prepared for on the actual test. Seeing the eyeballs directly in front of the plane is all different directions through me off. I had a came up with strategy for the test prep but threw that out the window on the test. The math was the easiest. I probably got 4 wrong out of 90. The testprep was way harder imo for that section.
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4:21 Got 2 on the first try, no rewinding needed.
Just wondering, when doing the real first memory test, does the new number appear after you type in your answer?
They will give you two numbers 3 and 6 and you have to type the difference. So the difference between 3 and 6 would be 3 then they will give you a new number like 4 and you would need to type the difference between 4 and 6 which is 2. Always use the last number they gave you and not the last number that you entered. so if they gave you another number after the last set of numbers which were 4 and 6 = 2 and they give you 5 you would give the difference between 6 and 5 which is 1.
I'm not sure if this helps at all however there is an app called ATSAPro that you can download on your phone that has the practice for this section if you need and is i believe i paid about 10 bucks on the google play store for if you don't have any of the other programs... it helps a lot. ( the picture of the app is black and gray much like with a place and dots) Also before you start each section of the test, The program allows you to take the practice test as many times as you'd like before taking each section. Just be careful not to overwhelm yourself with too much practice between sections on the test.
@@ashleytollison8085 Thank you so much! Super helpful!
I’m taking my test on the 29th of this month if anyone have additional tips I can use I would love that
I take mine on the 30th. Good luck!
How did you do?
@@facts6569I feel good about it, but I won’t know for sure until I get the results. Fingers crossed for good news.
Did you get your results yet?
@@facts6569 yes. I got well qualified.
Can someone explain that first number test again? Difference between 4 and 7 is 3, but why did it say 9????
Hi I take this in a month. On the simulation is the math a big factor or obviously zeros and no collisions ?
b=4, a=2
Hello! I am currently practicing for my ATSA test coming up and I had a few questions that maybe you could answer:
1. What is the desired percentage score for the Collision Avoidance Success Rate and the Reroute Efficiency Rate on the ATSA Collision Simulation?
2. What other techniques are there for the 2nd Memory Game - Variables? The "left hand, chest, right hand" technique works until I get to the harder parts then I find myself slowing down quite a bit.
These are the two that I am struggling with the most. I appreciate any help! Thank you!
One more question, how long is each section of the test? I know its 3-3.5hrs long but how long do you get for each subtest?
@@calebcharelus8169 I'll try to answer all of your questions. I hope there's still time.
1. I'm afraid the FAA doesn't release any score reports or data about the collision simulator, but I can tell you that our hardest mode is harder than the real test so if you can get to 70%-80% Collision Avoidance Success Rate you can really ace the test. one of our customers wrote on the pointsixtyfive forum:
"I was practicing Job’s collision sim for five minutes tops on the most difficult setting, and I was getting anywhere from 70-80% collision avoidance and 55-65% efficiency" and that he "had a total of 5 collisions on both sections of the test, not on each section". You can find his post here, it contains a full breakdown of the test - pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/faa-ato-21-allsrce-73599.4714/page-28#post-129335
2. Some candidates suggested saying out loud or mouthing silently the variables and equations and you can even tap yourself while saying the words. Like I said in the video, the most important thing is to practice the technique that works for you and not try to invent something new on the actual test.
3. Some of the sections are not timed, like the personality test, and some of the games are limited but not exactly timed - they just have a number of rounds.
The timed sections that I know of are the reading comprehension and the logical reasoning sections, I'm not sure exactly how long.
The first memory game is said to be 8 rounds, each about 2 minutes.
I'm afraid I don't know a lot more of the exact times, but yes, the total time is 2 hours and 49 minutes, and you have another 30 minutes of break time, that you can divide however you want it. Some candidates mentioned that they didn't want too many breaks as it interrupted their concentration.
You can read more about the ATSA on this forum which is very helpful - pointsixtyfive.com/xenforo/threads/atsa-compilation.545/
Anyone have good practice/study tips for the variable equation memory section? It’s particularly harder when the value is C so it throws off what you memorized for a and b.
I just applied for the opening yesterday. Ive seen the 30 years of age max. My question is i am currently 30 but will be 31 in a few months so will i still be qualified?
Hi Brandon, according to the FAA requirements, you have to be at the age of 30 (or under) by the end of the closing date of the application period. So you should remain qualified regardless of your birthday. Good luck!
You can apply until you turn 31. You just have to have your application in before your 31st birthday.
and 35 if your military.
Is the Air Traffic Control Specialist (ATCS) Passbook (C-68) a great study booklet?
Just got approved to schedule my exam, so excited but nervous
Same here. just got done scheduling my test. Good luck man, you got this!
how similar is this test compared with the FEAST exam in canada/europe?
Hey! You can read about the FEAST exam here: www.jobtestprep.com/feast-test-practice
What is considered a good score on the collision practice test or actual test?
Wait so when you go to take the actual test they allow you to practice first??
Yes, before each subtest you get a non-timed practice session.
I just took my ATSA today. This program helped tremendously. I know I aced the memory sections, and the visual/spatial relationship section. Radar sim I think I did pretty good but the formatting was a bit different on the real test. In each new round the dots just pop up in the middle of the screen and most of them were heading directly for eachother, you had very little time to react. This was the biggest contrast to the practice material where the dots just randomly enter the screen from different areas. So I had a few collisions on the harder portions on the real test. But overall I think I did ok. Reading comprehension and personality test were pretty accurate. The Logic/Deductive reasoning was by far the hardest on the real test, way tougher than your material.
@@ryandavis191 How did you end up doing?
@@scottf1592 Well Qualified and eventually ended up getting a TOL and now I'm waiting for a start date! I think I got super lucky with that. I practiced the memory/spatial relationship/radar sims for months and nailed it on the test. I think what screwed me over the most on the real test was the logic section. It was so hard I ran out of time!
@@ryandavis191 Was there anything on the real test not mentioned in this video. I keep reading about the word problems but no one expands on it. Are they math or just Logic/Deductive reasoning
so do you get to take it all alone? or are there other people in the room
There are other people in the room, it’s done at a Pearson Testing Center
Are you able to pause the screen for the equations or are they shown just one after the other?
In the actual test, the equations are shown one after the other without the option to pause between them. You don't have the option to write them down as well.
@@JobtestprepUk I'm considering not even going to my testing venue today. I'm so bad at all this stuff lol. My mother wanted me to go but I already have a job
@@CopperScott Don't overthink this. There's no harm in taking the test and failing it. However, if you really don't want the job, I totally understand.
Does anyone know how long it takes from when you take the test til when you get the results ?
They say 3 weeks after everyone has tested they did not send me an email but I logged into my account and results are there already!
A=2, B=4, C=3
A 2
B 4
C 3
The visual awareness test is the hardest part and it's not in this test prep.
You are right saying that the visual awareness/ visual relationship game is one of the hardest parts in the ATSA. Our preparation pack does include tailored practice tests for it, aimed at improving accuracy and speed. You are welcome to read more about this test and the practice we offer on our designated ATSA test page:
www.jobtestprep.com/at-sat-test-prep
Taking my test today 😓
how do you think you did?
@@friday4557 I either did really good or really bad I don’t know lol
@@PrincessMaureen98 lol same, I took it in November I'm just hoping for the best.
Results are In
So do we have to take the test before we apply?
No, you apply and they will reach out saying your application looks good and to schedule testing!
How long does it normally take to know if you’ve passed? I took mine today.
I did mines on August 25th and got scores 2 days ago
Wow 2 months? How did you do?
Got Best Qualified. Just got my TOL yesterday also. Was shocked how fast that one came
@@EternalMangekyoSlave Congratulations!!! How did you do on your math section?
@@lexib383 No idea, they dont give you a breakdown or anything of how well u did in each section
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This ATSA exam prep is the sole reason I scored best qualified last September. Excellent test prep and identical to the actual exam. I would have bombed the exam without this prep.
Congrats bro. I got Well-Qualified. I think the spatial/visual and the simulation got me into this category. Hope to see you at training sometime this year.
@@coolonthelowe thanks man! You too!
so i haave a question is (dials , angles , math on distance speed and time on tghe test?@@coolonthelowe
Did either of you ever get into the training program yet?
Are we allowed to use a calculator?
No
No, a calculator is not allowed. You are not allowed to use pen and paper as well.
@@edwinbarrios8882 hey Edwin lol
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Has anyone gotten an offer letter with just a “Qualified” test score? Was hoping to do better but that’s what I got
Me too man. Prepared well for the test but not for the day, didn't sleep well the night before. Anyways from what I've seen online, reddit, they're going to select from the well-qualified and best-qualified pool first and if there are any positions remaining, which there should be because the industry is in need of controllers, they'll look into the qualified pool. Hopefully you have an atc degrees/certificate or military experience or even work experience that can boost your chances. I hope they look at percentages and not just the category because someone who is considered qualified may have scored an 84.5% which is just under what is needed to become well qualified.
@@tayeelshaikh9228 I am staying optimistic that they will hire a big enough group of people this time around that maybe they will pull people from the “qualified” category as well. I am 30 years old so if I don’t get in this time around I’ll be too old by the time they post the next one. I’ve heard there is a shortage of air traffic controllers nationwide so hopefully that will work in our favor. I’ve heard over 57,000 applied to the posting, however I’d be more interested in knowing how many people received a passing score on the test. I’d guess that number is probably about 10% of the number of people who applied. Of course I don’t know that for sure.
@@tylergoethe9422 I'm in the same boat man, 30 years old. I felt bummed out to see me only get qualified because it is such a strenuous and time-consuming process. To hear back from just applying was a blessing and now this. Lol I'm somewhat optimistic. Just staying prepared tho, wanna stand out if you do get selected. But I would review the age limit thing, because I think so long as you don't turn 31 prior to the position opening date, you have a chance. There was also something about if you were selected at some stage, I forget which stage, when you originally applied you also don't have to worry about age.
I got a “Qualified” score too and still patiently waiting. Just hate being in the dark right now. Best of luck to y’all though. Hopefully it’ll all work out.
@@darvisshaw5325 thanks, good luck to you as well. All we can do now is wait. Time will tell
If anyone wants to know anything please ask me and I’ll check back in a few days. I only say this because I was one of you. Nervous about everything especially the test.
Is this still a valid study?
@@sandMan9010 oh most definitely! This is the only thing I used to study and got best qualified
@@sandMan9010 CORRECTION*
I used an APP called ATSAPRO
do you have to pay? also my uncle sent me the application bc hes a high up in atc and he sent me some old study guides including (reading dials math and angle ) but i feel like this is out dated when i watch all of these videos on this test!c= can you let me know if these questions are on the test @@kingmakour3698
@@Mr_Dreco_the questions provided in the video above were the same questions on the exam
When I do the ATC simulator the dots are blinking and only appear for like 2 seconds. Does the website need to be updated or is that how it is now?
Hi,
The test and simulation should be running smoothly. We are aware that in some cases there are local issues that interfere with the simulation- to help solve those our support team is available 24/7 and would happily assist.
Please contact us at info@jobtestprep.com with full details!
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Taking my test today I hope it’s not hard
Taking mine next week how was it?
How was it bro?
To be honest it was pretty easy the only part i know I did bad on was answering what side of the big plane is the small plane on the questions move so fast I’m not exaggerating when I say u get about 4 seconds tops to answer each question other than that you should be fine and I didn’t study too much either
Everything he explained in here is exactly what’s going to be on the test
Good tips. Going in tmrw morning.
how did it go?
@@janaechristina it went very well. I think only 3 or 4 ppl passed. I got offered to move to the next step but I actually turned it down.
@@rinse3x Nice. How did you prepare? if you prepared for it. and did you pay any mind to the math portion while preventing collisions?
@@janaechristina I watched a couple videos on UA-cam and checked out some threads on Reddit. Lots of stuff in r/atc. I recommend getting a goodnight sleep and eat before you go in. They make you sign an NDA for the test. The test itself requires no previous education or knowledge. If you have a good memory and can handle pressure you will do well. It’s definitely not an easy test I’d say.
@@rinse3x so why did you turn it down and did you score best qualified or well qualified?
So nervous. Taking the test on Oct. 26. So happy at the same time.
I heard back yesterday and scheduled mine for October 3rd. I could've took the test at the closest center to me on October 26, but I didn't want to wait that long. Good luck to you
I take mine on the 17th of December. Nervous ain’t the word! Thankfully I have sometime to prepare because I’m shooting for best qualified.
Taking mine on the 17 th good luck to all . We need a zoom study session lol
Wow from Vlad to Atc prep this can’t be the same Tk account you everywhere 😂
Taking mine on the 13th! Good luck everyone!
A=-2
B=4
C=3
It took me about 10secs to solve this equation.
This man is the CEO of lisp