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  • @Fasalytch
    @Fasalytch 3 місяці тому +18

    2^x is increasing, x is incresing, their sum (2^x + x) is an increasing function. 11 is a constant function, so there is no more than 1 solution. Pick some simple examples and find x = 3

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 3 місяці тому +2

      That's the long, digression-based, method.
      Normal people just see that it's three.

    • @Fasalytch
      @Fasalytch 3 місяці тому +8

      @@TheDavidlloydjones "normal people" should prove that 3 is the only solution

    • @아무개-u2i
      @아무개-u2i Місяць тому

      X=3

    • @sergiosampaio230
      @sergiosampaio230 3 дні тому

      IF 2^×+×=262162. Now is diferent

  • @wolframjahn2068
    @wolframjahn2068 3 місяці тому +10

    Main problem here is how to ignore the obvious solution 'x = 3'

  • @kuerzebap
    @kuerzebap 3 місяці тому +18

    Im reellen Zahlenraum R für x fällt die einfachste Möglichkeit x=3 direkt ins Auge. Da sowohl f(x)=2^x und g(x)=x streng monoton wachsend sind, kann es keine weiteren Lösungen in R geben.

  • @evgenijstoljarov2276
    @evgenijstoljarov2276 3 місяці тому +7

    Make a replacement x=3+y.
    Then 2^(3+y)+3+y=11, and 8*2^y+3+y=11.
    We get: (8*2^y)+y=8.
    Since 8*2^y >=8, then y=0 and x=3.

    • @Fasalytch
      @Fasalytch Місяць тому

      If y = -1 then 8 * 2^y = 4 < 8

    • @evgenijstoljarov2276
      @evgenijstoljarov2276 Місяць тому +1

      I have outlined my decision briefly. Since questions have arisen, I am providing an addition.
      We are looking for a solution in two different intervals. First, for y >=0, and then for y =0, the inequality 8*2^y >=8 is true, which allows us to find the root y=0 and, accordingly, x=3.
      In the region y

    • @giapmaixuan929
      @giapmaixuan929 День тому

      Bạn thêm vào phần hàm số tăng hoặc giảm đơn điệu và việc có nghiệm duy nhất là một phần đơn giản của lú thuyết dị biến trong toán học​@@evgenijstoljarov2276

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver 3 місяці тому +7

    Whenever you see an exponential with a linear you know you need to use the substitution method.
    Now figuring out what to substitute is the tricky part.

  • @tonhon
    @tonhon 3 місяці тому +4

    literally when the teacher said "show your work"

  • @eduardionovich4425
    @eduardionovich4425 3 місяці тому +3

    Нужно быть изрядным ослом ,чтобы так долго решать устную задачу: в левой части монотонно возрастающая функция,в правой части - константа, х=3 - единственный действительный корень . Прав один из комментирующих: для предложенного метода нужно было выбрать куда более сложный пример. Впрочем,о простом методе с монотонностью уже тоже писали,так что прошу прощения за повторение.

  • @فیروزاهنگری
    @فیروزاهنگری 27 днів тому

    2^x=11-x taking ln , ln2^x=ln(11-x) ,
    xl n2=ln(11-x) |×3 so 3xln2=3ln(11-x) , xln2^3=3ln(11-x) ,
    xln8=3ln(11-x) result x=3 and 8=11-x so x=3

  • @francisvanriet6223
    @francisvanriet6223 3 місяці тому +2

    11=2³+3------x=3...2 sec...

  • @jamesbond_007
    @jamesbond_007 3 місяці тому +4

    Is there a way to solve this w/o using the Lambert W function? It would be great if you could show solving it with the Lambert W and solving it without using it. Thanks for all you do!

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes. It's a binary conversion problem. You know that X has to be positive and odd by inspection, try 1, 2^x is too small, try 3, 2^3=8, +3= 11 solved. No *16 steps* of obscure unnecessary derivations. Failing that, simply calculating the value to get to about step 14 without knowing anything about the "Lambert W function". These examples are too trivial to be solving this way, if you want to force people down a particular solution path, don't pick a trivially simple example case.

    • @jamesbond_007
      @jamesbond_007 3 місяці тому +2

      @@brettbuck7362 You're right, but that's not a general method of solving these sorts of problems. I'm looking for some form of manipulation of the expression to get it to where the answer is produced w/o appealing to the "magic" W function.

  • @baselinesweb
    @baselinesweb 3 місяці тому +75

    Cmon man. If you’re gonna do all that stuff, at least pick a problem that you can’t solve by looking at it for a second or two.

    • @stevstro4498
      @stevstro4498 3 місяці тому +3

      Ask what time it is and you get a Swiss watch built. Not the best approach in a timed exam.

    • @davidhalliwell1565
      @davidhalliwell1565 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes. You can solve this problem almost instantly. A more challenging problem using the same principles should be used.

    • @cabiria0
      @cabiria0 3 місяці тому +2

      Unsmart comment

    • @TheDavidlloydjones
      @TheDavidlloydjones 20 днів тому

      @@cabiria0
      No. Perfectly sensible comment.
      Why is this guy wasting time doing all his silly pseud math on simple little puzzles?

    • @cabiria0
      @cabiria0 20 днів тому

      @@baselinesweb Because the channel is dedicated to puzzle solving THROUGH THE USE OF ALGEBRA, not intuition...

  • @gaiatetuya92
    @gaiatetuya92 3 місяці тому +1

    y=2^xとy=‐x+11の交点は一つだからx=3を代入して成り立っていたら計算は必要ないのでは。

  • @민우김-f4n
    @민우김-f4n 3 місяці тому +1

    2^x+x=11
    2^x=11-x
    2^x+x-11=0
    11=2*2*2+3=2^3+3
    X=3

  • @michaelpurtell4741
    @michaelpurtell4741 3 місяці тому

    Interesting approach, but I would surmise that the examiner was looking for the applicant to realize that 11 can be expressed as two to the 3rd+3

  • @richardslater677
    @richardslater677 3 місяці тому +5

    Most of your videos involve impossibly random steps that prove to be correct but are totally unintuitive. This video is a classic case of that. In an exam situation, your solution would take longer than the entire time allowed to figure out the randomness of this solution.

  • @dumitrudraghia5289
    @dumitrudraghia5289 3 місяці тому

    2^x=11-x,
    x= 1, 2, 3, 4.
    11-x=10, 9, 8, 7.
    2^x= 2, 4, 8, 16.
    OBSERV: x=3.
    *** REPREZENTARE GRAFICA ==> x=3.

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 3 місяці тому +19

    What I appreciate about this channel above others: (a) you spell out every step (b) you give practical advice on how to tackle the problem (c) clear and consistent speech with no visual distractions (d) VERY neat and proper handwriting. My requests: can you please also cover calculus, differential equations, linear algebra and discrete math?

  • @varathan3558
    @varathan3558 12 днів тому

    From the very begining we could write that 11=8+3 and 2^x+x=8+3=> 2^x-8=3-x with obvius solution x=3, whitch is unique becouse 2^x is an actually increasing function.

  • @olafwalter2037
    @olafwalter2037 Місяць тому

    What is with : 2^x +x = (11 -> 2^3 + 3)

  • @jjed88
    @jjed88 3 місяці тому +1

    At. 7:33, he got (11-x) ln2 = 2*11 ln2
    at 10:08 he got (11-x) = 8
    Am i seeing something wrong?
    Very nice understanding of W. Tks.

  • @frankcollins4743
    @frankcollins4743 15 днів тому

    It took me about a second to work this out. It is simple.
    All I could see was the number 3 staring me in the face.

  • @dumitrudraghia5289
    @dumitrudraghia5289 3 місяці тому

    Solve 2^x+x=1 - Lambert W-function.

  • @Roarshark12
    @Roarshark12 3 місяці тому +4

    Very nice solution, Lambert W strikes again!

  • @thomasharding1838
    @thomasharding1838 2 місяці тому +1

    Easy and obvious. X=3 2 to third = 8 8 + 3 = 11

  • @mgrths2009
    @mgrths2009 3 місяці тому

    Why do soooo difficult?? Just draw y=2^x en y=11-x : only 1 intersection. Try some x-values, and you soon (very soon!) find x=3

  • @abdulhusseinalsultani9222
    @abdulhusseinalsultani9222 3 місяці тому +1

    اقرب رقم الى 11 هو 8
    2^3=8
    8+3=11
    الحل

  • @om7509
    @om7509 25 днів тому

    What is the ' 'nature log'?

  • @FredFouelefack
    @FredFouelefack 3 місяці тому +2

    Very clear and easy to understand. please can you do the next video by helping me solve this: 9^x + 4x = 65 ?🙏🥺🥺

  • @rhc-weinkontore.k.7118
    @rhc-weinkontore.k.7118 Місяць тому

    amazing!

  • @korakhaing9548
    @korakhaing9548 2 місяці тому

    2^x+x=11
    2^x+x=8+3
    2^x+x=2³+3
    x=3

  • @shoutplenty
    @shoutplenty 3 місяці тому +11

    7:27 lol nice try
    if i can spot 2^11 = 8 * 2^8 then i can spot 2^3 + 3 = 11, it’s the exact same thing

    • @kriswillems5661
      @kriswillems5661 3 місяці тому +2

      Indeed. He writes a lot and that uses a trick he could have used on the first line. Stupid exercise. Stupid solution.

    • @shoutplenty
      @shoutplenty 3 місяці тому +1

      yeah exactly. i didn’t learn about lambert w function for university admissions and remember when i read about it later, i thought “i don’t see how this helps solve anything”. so when i saw this video purport to solve the equation methodically, i guessed there was some sophistry goin on and pored over each step till i spotted the sleight of hand

    • @shoutplenty
      @shoutplenty 3 місяці тому +1

      this is actually harmful for this level of student cos in uni you learn quickly about tricks and how to think in terms of the obvious thing working, so seeing a trick disguised as obvious (cos the solution is obvious… after you’ve been told it…), it trains students to not approach methodical problem solving properly. like looking for innovation is cool but you can’t be doing that while thinking you’re being methodical, and that you’re dumb/doing it wrong if you don’t see the trick

  • @dario2rnr
    @dario2rnr 4 дні тому

    When you've worked in digital all your life, simple powers of 2 jump out at you right away. No need to use paper and pen.

  • @daolnwoddipar6408
    @daolnwoddipar6408 2 місяці тому

    I'm completely enjoy of author, bloke try to tell about Labmert W-function explaining at the same time (in details!) multiplying of powers

  • @sergiosampaio230
    @sergiosampaio230 3 дні тому

    =2^3+3=11, x=3

  • @s.a.r.lcyclopharm2917
    @s.a.r.lcyclopharm2917 3 місяці тому

    When you decompose 11 into 3+8, you seem to know the solution, rather to use inspection, and after few videos, you are always enforcing W function to resolve equations!!

  • @leszek3333
    @leszek3333 Місяць тому

    A,2 B,2 C,2 A,B,C=3 2×2×2=8
    8+3="11"

  • @peterreali3950
    @peterreali3950 3 місяці тому +1

    The exposition above uses a lot of non obvious tricks to solve the problem with the Lambert function which most people have never heard of. How about using some basic logic without guessing:
    so write 2^x +x = 2^y + y= 11 now a power of 2 must be less than 11 so it has to be y = 3 hence x =3.

  • @robertgross578
    @robertgross578 3 місяці тому

    2 to power 3=8. 8+3=11

  • @andresrebolledobanquet1924
    @andresrebolledobanquet1924 2 місяці тому

    2x + x = 11
    3x = 11
    x = 11/3
    x = 3.66666
    Demostrate.
    2*3.66666 + 3.66666 = 11

  • @rubinakhan9018
    @rubinakhan9018 Місяць тому +1

    3 just looked and answered 😅😅 lol

  • @sergiosampaio230
    @sergiosampaio230 3 дні тому

    Why not use logaritmos?

  • @ابنالرافدينالوفي
    @ابنالرافدينالوفي 2 місяці тому +1

    Simply solution:-
    X^2+x=11
    X^2+x=8+3
    X^2+x=3^2+3
    By comparing tow sides
    X=3

  • @bkkboy-cm3eb
    @bkkboy-cm3eb 3 місяці тому

    2^x+x=11
    x≡1(mod2) → x=2k+1 (k≧1)
    2^(2k+1)=11-2k-1=2(5-k)
    2^(2k)=5-k≧4 → k=1
    ∴x=3

  • @RobertoStenger
    @RobertoStenger 3 місяці тому +2

    "A lot of students might be saying I can easily solve this challenge by inspection, but the main question: What about the solution?"
    Very clear

  • @THESTUDYHUB168
    @THESTUDYHUB168 3 місяці тому

    Can you solve this equation please? 2-Minute Equation Hack for Busy Students - Solve the Equation 3x+5=3(x+2) Fast!

  • @mayaq8324
    @mayaq8324 3 місяці тому +3

    “And never never use Wolfram Alpha to obtain the right side value” 🙄

  • @kanguru_
    @kanguru_ 2 місяці тому

    x=3 by inspection.

  • @jaspervantwout5583
    @jaspervantwout5583 3 місяці тому +3

    3, in split second.

  • @thewolfdoctor761
    @thewolfdoctor761 3 місяці тому

    I think you are obsessed with the Lambert W function.

  • @bautistagizirian3123
    @bautistagizirian3123 2 місяці тому

    7:56 were you going to do that you could've just said in the first equation 2^x+x=8+3=2^3+3

    • @zakiracha5550
      @zakiracha5550 25 днів тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂..
      ملاحظة قوية لكنه معلم يعلم الطريقة لاعداد اخرى اكثر تعقيدا..

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 3 місяці тому +1

    An answer is obvious, a child of 10 could work it out but proving that is the only solution is hard.
    2^x +x =11 => 2^x=11-x
    From that we can conclude that (a) x is an odd number because 2^x must always be an even number.; (b) x must be a positive number because if x was negative the right side of the equation would be greater than 11 and the left hand side would be some fraction of 2 which is not possible (c) the maximum value of 2^x

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 3 місяці тому

      Not quite, X=0, 2^X = 1, but that is obviously not going to add up to 11.

    • @GulibleKarma20
      @GulibleKarma20 3 місяці тому

      the function always has a positive derivative over its entire domain thus it is one-one and only one solution exist

    • @brettbuck7362
      @brettbuck7362 3 місяці тому

      @@GulibleKarma20 True, but this is probably asking a bit much of a high school algebra student. So is knowing about the apparently now sainted "Lambert W function" which I also never heard of until about a week ago, despite having a degree in mathematics and having worked in engineering solving all sorts of math equations far more complex than this for most of a century. It is absolutely no surprise that math proficiency is falling like a rock, if this is what math teachers consider important.

  • @wge2268
    @wge2268 3 місяці тому

    3. By observation.

  • @pentasquare
    @pentasquare 3 місяці тому

    Trial and error mothed while being slow _never fails_

    • @kabivose
      @kabivose 3 місяці тому

      Surely only true for integer solutions. How about a question whose answer is (pi)^2 ?

  • @boywonder6659
    @boywonder6659 2 місяці тому

    I thought he was going to run out of paper.

  • @DavidRobinson-rj2sp
    @DavidRobinson-rj2sp 3 місяці тому

    Just quickly in my head x=3.
    I'll watch the video now to find out how to do it the hard way.
    Well after watching the video I'll stick to mental arithmetic as I got the solution a lot quicker.

  • @RealQinnMalloryu4
    @RealQinnMalloryu4 3 місяці тому

    {2x+2x ➖ }+{x+x ➖ }= {4x^4+x^2}=4x^6 2^2x^3^2 1^1x^3^2 x^3^2 (x ➖ 3x+2).

  • @anjajohansson258
    @anjajohansson258 3 місяці тому

    Is there a good way to solve this type of equation, only instead of 11 you have a not-so-evident value like 10? Tried it, came as far as trying to figure out the proportion of 2^10 that had to go into the e-exponent to make "a" the same. I ended up with a function identical to the original, so that was upsetting. I thought I was on to something. 😅

  • @marleybone6615
    @marleybone6615 3 місяці тому +9

    Lambert and nature lock? This has reached the level of absurdity.

    • @Blessed-s4b
      @Blessed-s4b 3 місяці тому +1

      He meant natural log.

  • @ose09
    @ose09 3 місяці тому

    This is really WOW!

  • @josejefferson2812
    @josejefferson2812 4 дні тому

    Put the value of cas 3in eqa

  • @stevenjohnson1143
    @stevenjohnson1143 3 місяці тому

    Simple 3 2^3=8+3=11

  • @pspprabhat
    @pspprabhat 3 місяці тому

    2^×=11-×.....( 1:03 .1=(11-×)2^-×
    2^11=(11-×)2^11
    =>2^3)(2^8)=(11-×).2^( 3:23
    3:26 11-×)
    =>w{8ln2.e^8ln2}
    =W(11-×)ln2.e^(11-×)ln2}
    =>8ln2=(11-×)ln2
    =>8=11-×&×=11-8=3

  • @tensor131
    @tensor131 3 місяці тому

    I'm not familiar with the W function. I guess I would be very impressed if the same equation using 10 instead of 11 could also be solved using the W function.... Anyone?

  • @lapichfamily7595
    @lapichfamily7595 3 місяці тому +3

    Solution simple : 3 est solution évidente, 2^x+x est strictement croissante donc injective. Il y a ainsi au plus une solution. Comme on en a trouvé une, c'est la solution.

  • @josephcamba9370
    @josephcamba9370 3 місяці тому +1

    why the hell are you torturing this equation so much. its a simple answer.

  • @SaidSalmaoui-l9j
    @SaidSalmaoui-l9j 3 місяці тому

    2^x+x=11, 2^x -2^3=3-x , e^(2^x-2^3)=e^3-x , e^2^x /e^2^3=e^3-x ,e^2x/e^3.2=e^3-x , e^x^2/e^3^2=e^3-x , e^(x^2-3^2)=e^3-x, (x^2-3^2)=3-x, (x-3)(x+3)=-(x-3), (x-3)[(x+3)+1]=0, (x-3)(x+4)=0, x=3 ou [x=-4 impossible ] d'où x =3

  • @nikolayguzman331
    @nikolayguzman331 3 місяці тому +3

    Very clear as usually. Excellent explanation. 🖐

  • @cosimo7770
    @cosimo7770 3 місяці тому +3

    Maths sites should teach mathematical insight, not the absurd application of rediculous rules.

  • @artakmelkonyan5166
    @artakmelkonyan5166 3 місяці тому

    х=2.1095............between/////........x=2.10955

  • @davidburchell2882
    @davidburchell2882 13 днів тому

    Why don’t you use a whole chalkboard, damn

  • @louisdoumerc2693
    @louisdoumerc2693 3 місяці тому

    Very good video thank you

  • @philmarmanillo1354
    @philmarmanillo1354 3 місяці тому

    What language is he speaking?

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 3 місяці тому

    It's 3. We learned this is the 6th grade.

  • @thebasisti2482
    @thebasisti2482 3 місяці тому

    Lambert was a genius

  • @VijayaraghaveluSundarara-ed4xz
    @VijayaraghaveluSundarara-ed4xz Місяць тому

    3 is the answer

  • @dardoburgos3179
    @dardoburgos3179 3 місяці тому

    X= 3.

  • @HirschElla
    @HirschElla 3 місяці тому

    x = 3

  • @KartikGupta-cf7ov
    @KartikGupta-cf7ov 3 місяці тому +2

    Bro your examination time is over

  • @hungcao4687
    @hungcao4687 3 місяці тому

    😂 A high school student in Vietnam can solve problems like this easily.

  • @JucLansegers
    @JucLansegers 3 місяці тому

    Am I right to say that math is a supportive science aimed to describe natural phenomenons in other sciences like physics, chemistry, astronomy, biology, statistics...I can not imagine where such equation :2^x+x =11 could be found as a description of a phenomenon/ process. Can you?

    • @robertgross578
      @robertgross578 3 місяці тому

      Your presumption is wrong.

    • @JucLansegers
      @JucLansegers 3 місяці тому

      @@robertgross578 Sir, can you prove it's wrong?

    • @robertgross578
      @robertgross578 3 місяці тому

      @@JucLansegers Prove what is wrong?

    • @JucLansegers
      @JucLansegers 3 місяці тому

      @@robertgross578 My presumption, dear Robert

  • @donuteater900
    @donuteater900 3 місяці тому

    literally solved it in 2 seconds
    x = 3

  • @nigelrafferty2545
    @nigelrafferty2545 3 місяці тому

    I'm wondering if this video was uploaded on 1st April for a laugh? Seriously, if you didn't realise the answer x = 3 in ten seconds or less you should probably focus on learning skills other than mathematics. Learn to think. Solving problems by adopting laborious conventional approaches will be a useless life skill.

  • @AsadbekRoʻziboyev-u2f
    @AsadbekRoʻziboyev-u2f 3 місяці тому

    Very good

  • @valentinapaxley4221
    @valentinapaxley4221 3 місяці тому

    Just looking at it even my 12 YO brother could say it was 3.

  • @Monchy_10
    @Monchy_10 3 місяці тому

    bro be like:
    Solve for x
    1 + x = 2

  • @ramenomori
    @ramenomori 3 місяці тому

    x

  • @thakurfamily9669
    @thakurfamily9669 3 місяці тому

    Uhmmm actually....
    2^x + x = 2^3 + 3
    The 2nd part of the equation satisfies x... so x = 3
    😐

  • @Голиб2007Тоиров
    @Голиб2007Тоиров 3 місяці тому

    Bunga o'xshash yechgandikku mana buni ishlagandik 2^x+x=5

  • @davidburchell2882
    @davidburchell2882 13 днів тому

    I knew it in 5 seconds

  • @stefan11804
    @stefan11804 3 місяці тому

    Hard Problem but I suppose it is about 3

  • @sundareshvenugopal6575
    @sundareshvenugopal6575 Місяць тому

    8 + 3 = 11.

  • @puppy969
    @puppy969 3 місяці тому

    1 =3, 2 = 6, 3 = 11

  • @ВладимирЮвчик
    @ВладимирЮвчик 3 місяці тому

    Х=3

  • @bjozef1961
    @bjozef1961 3 місяці тому

    Fejben számolva: x=3 😂

  • @johannestan8681
    @johannestan8681 3 місяці тому

    How can this be when 1 + 1 can't be even 2😅

  • @kishorravichandran
    @kishorravichandran 3 місяці тому

    but i solved and found the answer in 1 mintue itself

  • @kanavsatija7771
    @kanavsatija7771 3 місяці тому +1

    Simple if x=3 then 2^3+3=11

  • @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs
    @RyanLewis-Johnson-wq6xs 3 місяці тому +2

    2^3+3=11 x=3 final answer

  • @lvluf4s4
    @lvluf4s4 2 місяці тому

    Mentalmente 3.

  • @DeinonychusTV
    @DeinonychusTV 3 місяці тому

    No hubiera sido fácil tantear valores.y ya. A mí eso me salió en 5 segundos