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  • @guyhoghton399
    @guyhoghton399 4 місяці тому +438

    _x = ½(1 + √5) = ½( -(-1) + √( (-1)² - 4(1)(-1) )_
    ∴ _x² + (-1)x + (-1) = 0_
    ⇒ _x² = x + 1_
    Multiply through by _x:_
    _x³ = x² + x = (x + 1) + x = 2x + 1_
    ⇒ _x⁶ = (2x + 1)² = 4x² + 4x + 1 = 4(x + 1) + 4x + 1 = 8x + 5_
    ⇒ _x¹² = (8x + 5)² = 64x² + 80x + 25 = 64(x + 1) + 80x + 25 _
    _= 144x + 89 = 72(1 + √5) + 89_
    ∴ *_x¹² = 161 + 72√5_*

    • @engjayah
      @engjayah 4 місяці тому +24

      This is the simplest solution also derived independently

    • @buffalobilly6046
      @buffalobilly6046 4 місяці тому +11

      Yes anytime you work with the “magic number” you need to know how to simplify

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому +40

      But you missed the coefficient of 2 simplifies things immensely:
      x³ = 2*x + 1 = √5 + 2
      So, just square that twice, without having to deal with x in a symbolic manner, and substituting and simplifying yet again.
      x⁶ = 9 + 4*√5
      x¹² = 161 + 72*√5

    • @ranjithamarakoon8842
      @ranjithamarakoon8842 3 місяці тому +4

      Nice work. ❤

    • @ayushdwivedi1154
      @ayushdwivedi1154 3 місяці тому +1

      @@buffalobilly6046 can you tell me what is magic number?

  • @twinclouds01
    @twinclouds01 2 місяці тому +201

    Actually, it can be calculated in 3 steps: Since x^12={[(x^3)^2}^2, we first obtain [(1 + √5)/2]^3 = 2 + √5. Then (2 + √5)^2 = 9 + 4√5 and finally, (9 + 4√5)^2 =81 + 4*2*9√5 +80 = 161+72√5. Even no algebra is needed!

    • @AdrienLegendre
      @AdrienLegendre 2 місяці тому +15

      This is also how I would have done it. I agree this is better.

    • @robertfitzjohn4755
      @robertfitzjohn4755 Місяць тому +11

      That's exactly how I did it. Much simpler than using algebra.

    • @am-gobears5191
      @am-gobears5191 Місяць тому +7

      Just excellent. And how do you calculate [(1 + √5)/2]^3 = 2 + √5 without algebra, may I ask?

    • @UnwiseDolphin
      @UnwiseDolphin Місяць тому +1

      @@am-gobears5191 You do have to use FOIL to multiply it out. But you don't need to use any variables.

    • @tranngochungdevwannabe
      @tranngochungdevwannabe Місяць тому +1

      @@UnwiseDolphinthe same anyway. Call it x or call it 5 that is the same.
      It just that with 5 u could come to answer right away.
      With x u write the formula down then slap the number in.
      But all the same

  • @Ctrl_Alt_Sup
    @Ctrl_Alt_Sup 3 місяці тому +53

    φ = (1+√5)/2 where φ is the golden ratio
    φⁿ=Fₙ₋₁+Fₙφ where (Fn) denotes the Fibonacci sequence
    φ¹²=F₁₁+F₁₂φ with F₁₁=89 and F₁₂=144
    φ¹² =89+144((1+√5)/2)=161+72√5

  • @jpl569
    @jpl569 4 місяці тому +337

    Another proof : noticing that (1+ √5)/2 = φ, and φ^2 = 1 + φ, we have the property
    φ^n = Un-2 + φ Un-1 for all n ≥ 2, where (Un) is the Fibonacci sequence.
    Then φ^12 = 89 + 144 φ = 161 + 72 √5.
    If you do not like finding the Fibonacci elements until n = 11, just take φ^6 = 5 + 8 φ, and square φ^6 :
    φ^12 = (φ^6)^2 = (5 + 8 φ)^2 = 89 + 144 φ = 161 + 72 √5.
    Thank you for your videos !

    • @Escviitash
      @Escviitash 4 місяці тому +20

      I assume that you by Un-2 mean the (n-2)th Fibonacci number, or as it is usually written "F(n-2)"
      F(0) = 0 and F(1) = 1, and from there you get the rest of the Fibonacci numbers by F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2), and you can even go to in the negative direction by F(n) = F(n+2) - F(n+1). You will the get that F(11) = 89 and F(12) = 144.
      Compare this to the soltution and you will get that φ^x = F(n-1) + F(n)*φ, which you obviosusly got confused with the formula for finding the Nth Fibonacci number.
      A couple of examples where n is 0 or negative:
      Using F(n) = F(n+2) - F(n+1) you will get that F(-1) = 1, F(-2) = -1, F(-3) = 2, F(4) = -3 and so on, which is the same as the Fibonacci numbers in the positve direction, with the exception that they are negative if n is even.
      So if n = 0 the you get: φ^0 = F(-1) + F(0)*φ = 1 + 0*φ = 1 + 0 = 1
      If n = -1 you get: φ^-1 (the reciprocal of φ) = F(-2) + F(-1)*φ = -1 + 1*φ = -1 + 1.618.. = 0.618... , which is indead the reciprocal of φ
      If n = -2 you get: φ^-2 (the reciprocal of φ^2) = F(-3) + F(-2)*φ = 2 + -1*φ = 2 - 1.618.. = 0.381... , which is indead the reciprocal of φ^2
      This will hold true for any integer power of φ, not just for power of 2 or higher.

    • @jpl569
      @jpl569 4 місяці тому +8

      @@Escviitash OK... I didn't use the usual notation for Fibonacci numbers, in order to achieve a nice and easy solution with positive integers. Thanks for your remark !

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@jpl569 -- In your first post, n - 2 and n - 1 needed to be inside grouping symbols, respectively.

    • @jpl569
      @jpl569 4 місяці тому +1

      @@robertveith6383 Yes, for sure, thanks !

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 місяці тому +4

      All good, except the index is off by one from the usual definition in parts of that.
      Yes, F(0)=0, F(1)=1; from which you eventually get F(11)=89, F(12)=144; but the rule for powers of phi is:
      φⁿ = F(n)φ + F(n-1)
      Fred

  • @minchomilev
    @minchomilev 3 місяці тому +82

    (½(1 + √5))¹² = (¼(1 + 2√5 + 5))⁶ = (¼(6 + 2√5))⁶ = (½(3 + √5))⁶ = (¼(9 + 6√5 + 5))³ = (½(7 + 3√5))³ = ⅛(343 + 441√5 + 945 + 125√5) = 161 + 72√5 I can't get it why you made it so complicated?

    • @gordonbraddock803
      @gordonbraddock803 2 місяці тому

      I agree. I did it your way before watching the official method/explanation.

    • @SeeJah87
      @SeeJah87 2 місяці тому

      only 135√5, not 125√5

    • @casey137
      @casey137 2 місяці тому +5

      I do like your method, but doing the cube first (followed by squaring twice) means we have no fractions to worry about for the rest of the calculation! ((1 + √5)/2)¹² = ((1 + 3√5 + 3(5) + 5√5)/8)⁴ = ((16 + 8√5)/8)⁴ = (2 + √5)⁴ = (4 + 4√5 + 5)² = (9 + 4√5)² = (81 + 72√5 + 80) = 161 + 72√5

    • @slothbearanonymous
      @slothbearanonymous 2 місяці тому

      @@casey137 Yes. I used this method also.

    • @shadowfighter4341
      @shadowfighter4341 8 днів тому

      I have also solved this problem like this

  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 4 місяці тому +80

    We only have to calculate φ^2, φ^4, φ^8 by consecutive squaring and then φ^12 =φ^4×φ^8. It's just four lines.

    • @ericlindholm9482
      @ericlindholm9482 2 місяці тому +4

      That's what I did and it took maybe 90 seconds. Some of the other solutions in the comments look even faster.

  • @ChristopherBitti
    @ChristopherBitti 2 місяці тому +8

    Let a be the number in parentheses. a is known as the golden ratio, and as such, it satisfies the equation x^2 - x - 1 = 0. Thus, a^2 = a + 1.
    Given this, a^12 = (a^2)^6 = (a + 1)^6 = ((a + 1)^2)^3 = (a^2 + 2a + 1)^3 = (3a + 2)^3 = (3a + 2)(9a^2 + 12a + 4) = (3a + 2)(21a + 13) = 63a^2 + 81a + 26 = 144a + 89 = 72(1 + sqrt(5)) + 89 = 72sqrt(5) + 161 as desired.

  • @jamesaitken4070
    @jamesaitken4070 4 місяці тому +487

    I think it’s simpler just to expand out as ((((1+sqrt 5)/2)^2)^2)^3 as the expression squares out pretty simply each time

    • @milan.matejka
      @milan.matejka 4 місяці тому

      Well, probably just as complicated to calculate, but you definitely don't risk a dead end.

    • @46swa
      @46swa 4 місяці тому +36

      I agree with you. It's much quicker this way.

    • @user-gr5tx6rd4h
      @user-gr5tx6rd4h 4 місяці тому +16

      I did so and got the exact same answer.

    • @BotaTamas85
      @BotaTamas85 4 місяці тому +37

      In this particular case yes, but seeing how introducing an X for a part of the expression can simplify the problem is pretty valuable.

    • @benjamingrunbaum3601
      @benjamingrunbaum3601 4 місяці тому +6

      I also did it this way. I wouldn't have even thought of the "X"

  • @Escviitash
    @Escviitash 4 місяці тому +10

    φ^z = F(z-1) + F(z)*φ holds true for any integer power of φ, negative, zero or positive. F(z) is the Fibonacci numbers with index z.
    To find the Fibonacci numbers with negative index you can reverse the formula to F(z) = F(z+2) - F(z+1) to get the sequence F(-1)=1, F(-2)=-1, F(-3)=2, F(-4)=-3, F(-5)=5, F(-6)=-8 and so on, i.e the same as the positve indexed Fibonanacci numbers, but negative if the index is even.
    Plug in 12 for z and you will get: φ^12 = F(12-1) + F(12)*φ = F(12-1) + F(12)*φ = F(11) + F(12)*φ = 89 + 144*φ which can be simplified to F(z-1)+F(z)/2 + (F(z)/2)*sqrt(5) if F(z) is even.

  • @redotto100
    @redotto100 4 місяці тому +65

    There’s another elegant way to solve this problem by recognizing that (1+sqrt(5))/2 is the eigenvalue of the matrix A = [0,1; 1, 1] with largest magnitude. Taking this matrix to powers produces matrices with Fibonacci numbers as entries A^p = [f(p-1), f(p); f(p), f(p+1)], so A^12 = [89, 144; 144, 233]. The largest eigenvalue of A^12 is ((1+sqrt(5))/2)^12. Simplifying the characteristic equation for A^12 gives 0 = x^2 - 322*x + 1 and computing the larger root gives the answer.

    • @wisdomokoro2255
      @wisdomokoro2255 3 місяці тому +2

      Just Brilliant!

    • @CGoldthorpe
      @CGoldthorpe 3 місяці тому +2

      Clearly this is more obscure, less intuitive, and less "pure"

    • @vhalkola
      @vhalkola 2 місяці тому

      I did this rather similarly: let A = [1 1; 1 0]. Then the eigenvectors are [φ;1] and [ψ;1]. Putting these in a matrix S, we can diagonalise A = S^(-1)ΛS, and A^(n) = S^(-1)Λ^(12)S, so that Λ^12 = SA^(12)S^(-1). A^12 can be easily constructed using the Fibonacci numbers so that the only thing that requires some work is S^(-1).

    • @vinny5004
      @vinny5004 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, this is simple… smh. Show off

    • @ТимурГубаев-ж8ы
      @ТимурГубаев-ж8ы 2 місяці тому +2

      To make it really elegant, you could’ve started with "Obviously, …" as most math textbooks do.

  • @thomasrebotier1741
    @thomasrebotier1741 4 місяці тому +36

    It's the golden ratio. That said, knowing the golden ratio and the afferent properties (x=1+1/x) is more a matter of general math culture, and olympiads are for teenagers. some of them will know and some won't at all, this is NOT the spirit of the olympiads. Those problems should be based on problem-solving ability, not on random general culture.

    • @ttt69420
      @ttt69420 2 місяці тому +1

      I mean.. look at the comments on these videos. It's always a flood of people saying just use x algorithm/theorem. Rote knowledge isn't intelligence and it isn't understanding, but it's all there is all through undergrad anyway (and beyond).
      The Olympiads would be boring if you had to wait 40 years to assemble 8 genius children to derive and prove what's already been done for hundreds of years anyway.

    • @scottrackley4457
      @scottrackley4457 14 днів тому

      While the golden ratio stuck out like a sore thumb to me, some haven't been introduced. I agree, the fact that's the first thing I see is kind of rote knowledge.

  • @pietergeerkens6324
    @pietergeerkens6324 4 місяці тому +102

    Such a great opportunity missed, to note in passing that
    [ (1 + √5) / 2 ]³
    = (1 + 3√5 + 3*5 + 5√5) / 8
    = (16 + 8√5) / 8
    = 2 + √5;
    and thus give students insight into this instance (and others similar) of the Pell equation.
    Now the entire expression simplifies as
    [ (1 + √5) / 2 ]¹²
    = (2 + √5)⁴
    = (4 + 4√5 + 5)²
    = 81 + 72√5 + 80
    = 161 + 72√5

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 4 місяці тому +2

      No, it does *not* simplify to that. Go backward to some steps:
      [4 + 4sqrt(5) + 5]^2 =
      [9 + 4sqrt(5)]^2 =
      81 + 72sqrt(5) + 80 =
      161 + 72sqrt(5) *Answer*

    • @pietergeerkens6324
      @pietergeerkens6324 4 місяці тому +2

      @@robertveith6383 Oops! Thank you. I Copy-Pasted "²" twice instead of "√5". Now corrected.

    • @aspenrebel
      @aspenrebel 4 місяці тому +1

      Now that a good way to do it, start. Term to 3rd = 2 x sqrt of 5. Then sq, then sq =322

    • @aspenrebel
      @aspenrebel 4 місяці тому

      @@robertveith6383 that's what he did???

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому +2

      @aspenrebel: OP made an error, which someone pointed out, so OP edited his first comment to fix the error. You saw the first comment after it was corrected.

  • @amunt3r
    @amunt3r 2 місяці тому +8

    Just evaluate the 2nd, 4th and 8th powers by squaring three times. Then multiply the 4th power by 8th power to get the 12th power. It's trivial arithmetic.

  • @Pixiltation
    @Pixiltation 4 місяці тому +108

    i don't think this video should be 11 minutes long

    • @billyoung8118
      @billyoung8118 4 місяці тому +16

      I suspect his ornate way of writing "x" accounted for about 1/3 of the video length

    • @Philip-hv2kc
      @Philip-hv2kc 4 місяці тому +2

      I don't see why he needs an X . You could simply do the basic arithmetic. But now I see that √5 if multiplied by itself 12 times is going to give different answers depending on original number of decimal points .

    • @souptikdam8424
      @souptikdam8424 3 місяці тому +1

      2x speed.

    • @xl000
      @xl000 3 місяці тому

      this could have been a tweet... But this wouldn't be on UA-cam

    • @golastname7686
      @golastname7686 3 місяці тому +1

      Right. Also, in a timed test, students ought to be trained to initially skip questions that take 11 minutes to answer (or that cause drowsiness). Unanswered questions might not mean the question is hard, but that students strategize time elsewhere.

  • @italixgaming915
    @italixgaming915 3 місяці тому +11

    You overcomplicated this poor little thing. Once you wrote that x²=x+1 you have:
    x^3=x².x=(x+1).x=x²+x=2x+1
    x^6=(2x+1)²=4x²+4x+1=4.(x+1)+4x+1=8x+5
    x^12=(8x+5)²=64x²+80x+25=64.(x+1)+80x+25=144x+89
    So the value we are looking for is 72.(1+sqrt(5))+89=161+72.sqrt(5)

  • @florianbasier
    @florianbasier 4 місяці тому +39

    You complexified everything my friend. My idea was that we could detect a nice generalisation for Sn=x^n that would not force us to write Newton's formula with a coeff of 12. So I started looking at S1=(1+sqrt(5))/2, S2=(3+sqrt(5))/2, S3=2+sqrt(5). And now my idea of a nice formula vanished but S3 is so simple that it can be used to compute easily S6=S3²=9+4sqrt(5) and then S12=S6²=161+72sqrt(5)

  • @BN-hy1nd
    @BN-hy1nd 2 місяці тому +19

    As a retired teacher of Maths in secondary schools, it is the/his step-by-step approach that makes his method interesting and less complex. Well done😄

    • @whatwasisaying
      @whatwasisaying 2 місяці тому

      Interesting? Really.

    • @KrytenKoro
      @KrytenKoro Місяць тому

      ​@@whatwasisaying...yes, interesting. It's an education channel aimed at high schoolers

  • @HHHGeorge
    @HHHGeorge Місяць тому

    Very clever and very clearly explained. Thank you. When I initially looked at the problem I thought I couldn't do it but watching you I can see I could do it with the mathematical knowledge I do have.

  • @46swa
    @46swa 4 місяці тому +190

    This solution is far too cumbersome. (((Term^2)^2)^3 is much faster

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider 4 місяці тому +16

      You might alternately consider evaluating Term^4 = ((Term)^2)^2 as an intermediate step, then Term^8 = (Term^4)^2 and finally Term^12 = Term^8 * Term^4.

    • @DandoPorsaco-ho1zs
      @DandoPorsaco-ho1zs 4 місяці тому +5

      @@RexxSchneider That's how I did it.

    • @billweihmillerjr9481
      @billweihmillerjr9481 4 місяці тому +2

      Or x^12= (x^4)(x^4 )(x^4).
      Solve x^4 once, pull the power down to 1. Square, pull power down to one, then uae the third, power down ...
      I liked his deliberatw approach, skipping magic ratio, phi, and avoiding the temptation to go complex when algebra,does just fine.

    • @billweihmillerjr9481
      @billweihmillerjr9481 4 місяці тому

      Good problem to be VERY careful with.

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому +16

      Nope, cubing simplifies the calculation by eliminating the denominator, so 2 successive squares can be done easily.
      ((√5+1)/2)³
      = (√5+1)³/8
      = (5*√5 + 3*5 + 3*√5 + 1)/8
      = (8*√5 + 16)/8
      = √5 + 2
      Then, just square that twice.

  • @robertbox5399
    @robertbox5399 4 місяці тому +71

    I was screaming, 'GET ON WITH IT!', Lol.

    • @AtanuKDey
      @AtanuKDey 3 місяці тому +3

      I downvoted the video because of that. The man takes many steps to explain why 1 plus 4 is 5 by adding 1 to 1 four times to get 5. Three minutes gone.

  • @oahuhawaii2141
    @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому +2

    By factoring 12 to 3*2*2, raising to the power of 12 can be done by cubing, followed by squaring twice.
    Let x = √5 + 1
    We have x³ = 5*√5 + 3*5 + 3*√5 + 1 = 8*√5 + 16
    Thus, ((√5 + 1)/2)¹² = (((x/2)³)²)² = ((x³/8)²)² = (((8*√5 + 16)/8)²)² = ((√5 + 2)²)² = (4*√5 + 9)² = 72*√5 + 161

  • @twincities21
    @twincities21 2 місяці тому +3

    I solved this questions in the following way.
    12=2 x 2 x 3, so I converted (1 + √5/2)^12 to [{((1 + √5)/2)^2}^2]^3
    {(1 + √5)/2}^2 = (3 + √5)/2
    {(3 + √5)/2}^2 = (7 + 3√5)/2
    {(7 + 3√5)/2}^3 = 161 + 72√5

    • @ProfesSor-j2d
      @ProfesSor-j2d 2 місяці тому

      Another way is to note that 12 = 8 + 4 and 4 = 2 + 2 so with φ=(1 + √5)/2 one have φ^12 = φ^8 * φ^4 and noticing that φ^8 = (φ^4)^2 and that φ^4=(φ^2)^2 one arrives at φ^12 = φ^8 * φ^4 = { (φ^2)^2 }^2 * { (φ^2)^2 } needing one square step to reach φ^2, another square to reach φ^4 and a final square to reach φ^8, with the multiplication of the previous two powers φ^8 * φ^4 to reach φ^12. All those ways leads to the same answer through some near routes. One of the most efficient ways to compute Powers is by BINARY Decomposition methods, so 12 in base 10 = 1100 in base 2 and the binary pattern of each power n leads to a simple implementation of a binary recursive power procedure

    • @ProfesSor-j2d
      @ProfesSor-j2d 2 місяці тому

      And if one notes that φ^2 = φ + 1 since ( (1 + √5)/2 ) ^ 2 = (3 + √5)/2 = (1 + √5)/2 + 1, one reaches for φ^12 = { (φ^2)^2 }^2 * { (φ^2)^2 } = { (φ + 1)^2 } ^ 2 * { (φ + 1)^2 } leading to a polynomial expansion just in terms of φ with φ^12 = { φ^2 + 2φ + 1} ^ 2 * { φ^2 + 2φ + 1 } = { 1 + 4φ + 6φ^2 + 4φ^3 + φ^4 } * { 1 + 2φ + φ^2 } = φ^6 + 6*φ^5 + 15*φ^4 + 20*φ^3 + 15*φ^2 + 6*φ + 1 with a much more cumbersome way to reach for φ^12 needing sucessive computations of powers of φ up to φ^6 and them combining in the characteristic polynomial just arrived...

  • @pinktoday5858
    @pinktoday5858 2 місяці тому +2

    (√5 + 1)/2 = φ - Golden Ratio
    φ² = φ + 1
    φ³ = φ(φ + 1) = φ² + φ = 2φ + 1
    φ⁴ = (φ²)² = φ² + 2φ + 1 = 3φ + 2
    φ⁵ = φφ⁴ = φ(3φ + 2) = 5φ + 3
    φ⁶ = φφ⁵ = 8φ + 5
    ...
    Fibonacci Sequence as coeficientes
    Fₒ = 0 F₇ = 13 F₁₂ = 144
    0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 144 233 ...
    proceed to φ¹² = 144φ + 89
    φⁿ = φFₙ + Fₙ₋₁
    φ¹² = 144 (√5 + 1)/2 + 89
    φ¹² = 161 + 72√5

  • @alexisgs8800
    @alexisgs8800 4 місяці тому +14

    I love how every overinflated ego posts a different solution using more and more advanced mathematics, criticizing his approach, but no one cared to ask who this video was made for. You don't teach how to solve such a problem the same way when your target audience is high school students as you would if it were made for people pursuing a university degree in mathematics. Some of his videos have "Entrance exam" in the title, for different universities, which implies that this may be for people who don't have all the techniques some of you are talking about.

    • @growleym504
      @growleym504 3 місяці тому

      Cut to the chase. Calculate the solution. 322. The presumption is that there is a practical need for the solution, and there it is, now it is ready to be used for whatever purpose the question was conceived.

    • @chrisbraun70
      @chrisbraun70 2 місяці тому

      Now that it has been more than 50 years since my university degree in mathematics (from Brown), I’m happy to just follow along 🙂.

    • @Ghastrix9916
      @Ghastrix9916 2 місяці тому

      The only skill required here is squaring binomials which I wouldn’t consider “college level”

    • @donthuis
      @donthuis 2 місяці тому

      Indeed the formula's being used are already known to students on secondary school level. There is no need to bring Fibonacci into the solution, if getting the answer without a calculator is the only requirement. The latter was implicit in the video IMO

    • @donthuis
      @donthuis 2 місяці тому

      On my later UNI, one professor of mine explaining mathemetical solutions to non-zero starting of electrical pulses using Laplace transforms first gave his own solution writing three boards full of formulas, followed by a three line solution found by one of his students during his aural exam. Of course both ways were correct. This thread with both long and short roads reminds me of such events.😅

  • @colinpountney333
    @colinpountney333 3 місяці тому +2

    A more elegant approach would be to iterate. After noting the expression to be raised to the power of 12 is a root of x^2 - x - 1, it follows that x^2 = x + 1. So x^3 = x^2 + x = 2x + 1. And therefore by iteration any power of x can be expressed in terms of ax + b. If x^n = ax + b then x^(n+1) = (a+b)x + a. You can do the rest in your head.

  • @hippophile
    @hippophile 4 місяці тому +5

    Trying to keep it simple (to be safe) I just cubed the expression then squared it twice. Cubing gets rid of the denominator so it works out pretty nicely.

    • @pietergeerkens6324
      @pietergeerkens6324 4 місяці тому +1

      And a passing reference that this happens to other Pell Equation solutions as well, such as
      [ ( 3 + √13) / 2 ]³
      = ( 27 + 3*9√13 + 3*3*13 + 13√13 ) / 8
      = ( 27 + 27√13 + 117 + 13√13 ) / 8
      = ( 144 + 40√13 ) / 8
      = 18 + 5√13
      and
      [ ( 5 + √21 ) / 2 ]³
      = 55 + 12√21
      ,
      might bee in order, as well as that this can only (but doesn't always) happen for √(4n + 1).

    • @GlomgoldFlintheart
      @GlomgoldFlintheart 3 місяці тому

      I did the same. If only 8% of students got it right, that must be bad students.

  • @whycantiremainanonymous8091
    @whycantiremainanonymous8091 4 місяці тому +21

    Without watching: (1+5^½)/2 is the constant phi (sorry, no Greek keyboard here). Phi ^ n = Fn×phi + Fn-1, where Fn is the nth number in the Fibonacci series. Moreover, this is approximately equal to Fn+1 + Fn-1. So, for power 12, this would be 233+89=322. The actual number is more like 319.99.

    • @literallydeadpool
      @literallydeadpool 4 місяці тому +2

      amazing, what a relation that is

    • @Ringcaat
      @Ringcaat 3 місяці тому

      Oh, impressive! Maybe some students knew that, but I doubt most did. I checked and it comes out right.

    • @jontallen3319
      @jontallen3319 3 місяці тому

      jontalle.web.engr.illinois.edu/TEACH/AnInvitationToMathematicalPhys.pdf see page 71 or search for Fibonacci

  • @guillemiscla3842
    @guillemiscla3842 Місяць тому

    This holds for n >= 1
    P^n = p*(F(n)) + (F(n-1))
    Where F(n) is the Fibonacci sequence starting with F(0) = 0, F(1) = 1

  • @chriscurtain1816
    @chriscurtain1816 4 місяці тому +3

    I just did it on my calculator. Then I got the same answer in less than 30 seconds. Except I came up with a figure - not just a different way of expressing the problem.

    • @Liberty4Ever
      @Liberty4Ever 4 місяці тому +3

      Three kinds of people enjoy math - accountants, engineers and mathematicians. Accountants use grade school math for practical purposes. Engineers use high school and university math for practical purposes. I'm an engineer and apparently you are too? Mathematicians abhor practical solutions because math is art, beauty, religion, et cetera. It's all about the journey and not the destination.

  • @paulortega5317
    @paulortega5317 4 місяці тому +2

    Two Fibonacci series, each with different f(1) and f(2) values. 1,3 and 1,1. The latter can also be derived from (1/sqrt(5))*[((1+sqrt(5)/2)^n - ((1-sqrt(5)/2)^n]

    • @jontallen3319
      @jontallen3319 3 місяці тому

      jontalle.web.engr.illinois.edu/TEACH/AnInvitationToMathematicalPhys.pdf see page 71 or search for Fibonacci

  • @TristanBBBBB
    @TristanBBBBB 4 місяці тому +95

    A good teacher doesn’t just show a series of steps. A good teacher explains the goal and explains why each step works toward the goal. Otherwise this is just rote learning and not knowledge.

    • @ciprianteasca7823
      @ciprianteasca7823 4 місяці тому +4

      So, what's your point...?!

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider 4 місяці тому +14

      @@ciprianteasca7823 The point is that his variable 'x' is actually the golden ratio, φ. You should know that it has the property φ^2 = φ+1. That means that any power of φ can be reduced to a linear expression in φ. The simplification that provides is the key to finding an easy to evaluate expression for any power of φ, rather than the slog of evaluating a large binomial expansion with increasing powers of a variable.
      You can then evaluate φ^12 as ((φ^2 * φ)^2)^2 or ((φ^2)^2)^2 * (φ^2)^2, etc. as a linear expression in φ.

    • @echandler
      @echandler 4 місяці тому +3

      @@RexxSchneider *Any* simple radical expression for x can be cast as the root of some quadratic equation. φ is particularly nice!

    • @nabuk3
      @nabuk3 2 місяці тому +2

      And almost all students will forget it an hour later, or right after the test.

    • @RobertoStenger
      @RobertoStenger 2 місяці тому

      👍🏻

  • @ProfesSor-j2d
    @ProfesSor-j2d 2 місяці тому

    The most elegant solution is to note that φ=(1+sqrt(5))/2 = golden ratio = eigenvalue of Fibonacci matrix [[0,1][1,1]] and that φ^n = φ * Fib(n) + Fib(n-1) with Fib(n) = Fib(n-1)+Fib(n-2) denoting the n'th Fibonacci number, so ( (1+sqrt(5))/2 )^n = φ * Fib(n) + Fib(n-1). This shows the very deep interconnection of polynomial algebra, with matrices and notable constants like φ = golden ratio. Also noting that the n'th Powers of Fibonacci matrix [[0,1][1,1]] ^ n = [[Fib(n),Fib(n+1)][Fib(n+1),Fib(n+2)]] could be computed by FAST MATRIX MULTIPLICATION algorithms, taking NOTICE of BINARY decomposition of Powers, leading for the example in question φ^12 = φ^8 * φ^4 and that φ^8 = φ^4 * φ^4 and φ^4 = φ^2 * φ^2, so φ^12 = { ( φ^2 )^2 } * { ( φ^2 )^2 }^2 needing thus the calculation of the square of φ=(1+sqrt(5))/2 with φ^2 = (3+sqrt(5))/2 and φ^4 = (φ^2)^2 = (7+3*sqrt(5))/2 and φ^8 = (φ^4)^2 = (47+21*sqrt(5))/2 so φ^12 = φ^8 * φ^4 = (47+21*sqrt(5))/2 * (7+3*sqrt(5))/2 = 72 * sqrt(5) + 161. Note to have provided enough interesting relations to be explored by many with curiosity in all such intricacies of Matrix Powers with algebraic polynomials, characteristic and eigenvalues and the golden ratio constant. For those further interested φ = Phi constant there is a very captivating introductory book by Mario Livio - The Golden Ratio - The Story of PHI, the World's Most Astonishing Number - Broadway Books (2003). Taking cover of another interesting famous constant Gamma there is the introductory book by Julian Havil - Gamma - Exploring Euler's Constant - Princeton University Press (2003). For the ABSOLUTE REFERENCE on Mathematical CONSTANTS there are the books by Steven R. Finch - Mathematical Constants - Cambridge University Press (2003) and Mathematical Constants II - Cambridge University Press (2018). Noticing that 2003 was a rather inspiring year for 3 MUST READ books on some famous Mathematical Constants, appart from Pi and e the base of natural logarithms and sqrt(2) which have been much more extensively covered since the very dawn of ancient mathematics, most notably by greek exponents like Phytagoras, Euclides and Archimedes.

  • @michaeledwards2251
    @michaeledwards2251 4 місяці тому +14

    The point of the question is to determine whether students are aware of the significance of reducing the power demanding evaluation. This is allows programming with minimal error growth.
    (In this instance the Harmonic ratio and Fibonacci sequence are useful, and may be part of a bonus, but the most significant factor is spotting ways to minimize error growth in numerical calculations. )

    • @julianocg
      @julianocg 4 місяці тому +1

      In this case should use any other number, not the golden ratio.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 4 місяці тому

      @@julianocg
      Why not use the golden ratio : it gives an opportunity for bonus insights.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 4 місяці тому +3

      @@julianocg
      An additional factor is the real world doesn't follow neat and tidy rules : numerical evaluation is an artform whose purpose is to achieve a resolution with minimum error.
      It is forgotten how important numerical evaluation is to the design of cars, houses, buildings, roads and much more.

    • @RexxSchneider
      @RexxSchneider 4 місяці тому

      @@julianocg The whole point of picking the golden ration is that φ^2 = φ+1, which means that any power of φ can be successively reduced to a linear expression in φ. The key is that the student recognises that simplification provides a significant short-cut in this particular question.

    • @julianocg
      @julianocg 4 місяці тому

      @@RexxSchneider Just as I did.

  • @cecilponsaing2749
    @cecilponsaing2749 4 місяці тому +1

    A beautiful solution. I did it without x at first, carefully, and got it right.After that I could finally understand your simpler approach , and I then did it that way too. Thank you.

  • @jerrygunning1449
    @jerrygunning1449 3 місяці тому +16

    I was a software engineer for forty years. If this guy was working for me I would have fire him. I know this "guy" - he is far more interested in proving how smart is than actually getting any work done.

    • @growleym504
      @growleym504 3 місяці тому +3

      I would not just fire the guy who wasted 20 minutes answering the question with another problem. I would also fire the guy who came up with the question in the first place. When have you ever needed to raise anything to the 12th power in a real world situation? It takes about 30 seconds to type it into a python session or key it into a calculator, and get an actual usable numeric answer.

    • @fredrodriguez6650
      @fredrodriguez6650 2 місяці тому

      Using some long hand and the OLD order of operations with a calculator is just 5 steps to an actual number. 5.402211e^9. Mathmagicians and their proofs.

    • @michaeledwards2251
      @michaeledwards2251 Місяць тому +2

      @@growleym504
      Unless you are performing aerodynamic calculations. 6d aeroballistics is full of tricks to reduce a multiple step, multiple term, equations to linear approximations. Examples of aerodynamic modelling ? Building wind shear, car cross wind stability, turbulence estimations in stadia, and effects of structures on wind speed.
      Both the problem presented, and aerodynamics, have a common theme : reducing the equation power to linear while controlling error.
      (Business calculations are inherently simple and standard. Modelling physical systems to ensure buildings won't fall down in a human life time is another matter. )

    • @KrytenKoro
      @KrytenKoro Місяць тому +1

      So ...not a good engineer, then? Since this is a channel for explaining concepts, and not a "just use a calculator" channel?

    • @KrytenKoro
      @KrytenKoro Місяць тому

      ​@@growleym504good Christ, is your response to a mathematics education channel really "just use a calculator"?

  • @yusufdenli9363
    @yusufdenli9363 2 місяці тому +2

    This is golden ratio = φ
    We must find φ^12
    You can use Fibonacci numbers:
    1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,...
    φ^n = F(n) .φ + F(n-1)
    φ^12 = F(12).φ + F(11)
    = 144.(1+sqrt(5))/2 + 89
    =161 + 72.sqrt(5)

    • @reisele1980
      @reisele1980 2 місяці тому

      I noticed the 89 and 144 were in the Fibonacci sequence. Interesting thing is that the ratio between consecutive members of the Fibonacci sequence approaches phi. So for an astronomically large x, would the answer approximate to: (x)(1 + 1/phi) + (x/2).sqrt(5) ?

  • @kianooshboroojeni2551
    @kianooshboroojeni2551 4 місяці тому +5

    Want to have a shortcut? Fib(12) = 144. Considering the explicit form of Fib sequence, φ^12=144*sqrt(5) + ((1-sqrt(5))/2)^12 which is approximately equal to 144*sqrt(5) or 322.

  • @ArtemKo___
    @ArtemKo___ 3 місяці тому +2

    ½(1 + √5) = x
    x^12 = (x^2)^6
    x^2 = t
    x^12 = (t^2)^3 and just calculate

  • @fabrice9252
    @fabrice9252 4 місяці тому +4

    Ce nombre est φ, le nombre d'or et on sait que φ est solution de l'équation x² - x - 1 = 0 donc: φ² - φ - 1 = 0
    d'où: φ² = φ + 1
    φ¹² = (φ²)⁶ = (φ + 1)⁶ = [ (φ + 1)²]³ = ( φ² + 2φ + 1)³ = (φ + 1 + 2φ + 1)³
    = (3φ + 2)³ = (3φ + 2)² (3φ + 2) = (9φ² + 12 φ + 4) (3φ + 2) = (9φ + 9 + 12 φ + 4) (3φ + 2)
    = (21φ +13) (3φ + 2) = 63φ² + 42φ +39φ +26 = 63φ + 63 + 42φ +39φ +26
    = 144φ + 89
    = 144 (1 + √5)/2 + 89
    = 72 (1 + √5) + 89
    = 72 + 72√5 + 89
    = 161 + 72√5

  • @sanjogar
    @sanjogar 2 дні тому

    Let a = ½(1 + √5); then is conjugate is a' = ½(1 - √5), which are the roots of the equation x² = x + 1.
    So a² =a + 1. Multiplying by a, a² =a + 1, a^3 =2a + 1; then a^6 =8a + 5. Finally a^(12) =144a + 89.

  • @chriscurtain1816
    @chriscurtain1816 4 місяці тому +12

    Surely the 'answer' here is simply a different way of writing the question?

    • @YoutubeHandlesSuckBalls
      @YoutubeHandlesSuckBalls 3 місяці тому

      Indeed.

    • @nabuk3
      @nabuk3 2 місяці тому +1

      Right, after 11 minutes he still did not solve for x. I think he would have gotten it marked wrong on the test, if he did not run out of time.

  • @MikeBTek
    @MikeBTek 2 місяці тому +1

    a = (1 + √5)/2
    a^2 = (6 + 2√5)/4 = (3 + √5)/2
    a^3 = (8 + 4√5)/4 = 2 + √5 (surprise!)
    a^6 = 9 + 4√5
    a^12 = 81 + 72√5 + 80 = 161 + 72√5
    Also note that ratio (1 + √5)/2 is called the golden ratio or phi.

  • @r2boii882
    @r2boii882 4 місяці тому +4

    I'm part of the 8%
    Too bad for the rest of the 95% though :/

    • @jonbondMPG
      @jonbondMPG 4 місяці тому +1

      I see what you did there 😏

  • @alexsam8554
    @alexsam8554 2 місяці тому +2

    without Fibonacci:
    x^2=x+1,
    x^3=x^2+x=2x+1,
    (2x+1)^4=(4x^2+4x+1)^2=(8x+5)^2=64x^2+80x+25=144x+89

  • @ald6980
    @ald6980 4 місяці тому +14

    phi = x=(1+sqrt(5))/2; phi^n=F(n)phi+F(n-1), where F(n) - the n-th Fibonacci number: 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,..... F(n)=F(n-1)+F(n-2).
    The same another way:
    x^0 = 1 = 1+0*sqrt(5) = (1;0)
    x^1 =(0.5;0.5)
    x^n=(a(n);b(n)) = (a(n-1);b(n-1))+ (a(n-2);b(n-2)).

  • @fatroberto3012
    @fatroberto3012 3 місяці тому +2

    Modern students will not understand why the final solution is any simpler than the initial problem. This is understandable, because the point of solving problems without a calculator is debatable. If only 8% are going to get the right answer, then why do it? They are more likely to have a calculator than a book of Mathematical Tables or a slide rule, the use of which was the object of these exercises when I was at school fifty years ago.

  • @virtual-viking
    @virtual-viking 4 місяці тому +6

    It's much better to firstly calculate x^3=2+√5 because it immediately gets rid of the /2. Then find the solution from (2+√5)^4 via two successive squarings.

  • @MiloTsukroff
    @MiloTsukroff 4 місяці тому +2

    A very elegant solution. (That is, if the year is before 1970 and no scientific calculators are available.) 161 + 72 * sqrt( 5 ) does indeed equal ( ( 1 + sqrt( 5 ) ) / 2 ) ^ 12

    • @MarkEricson1
      @MarkEricson1 2 місяці тому

      Uh... yes, it does. I don't know about your calculator, but mine comes up with 321.99689438 (to 11 digits of precision) for both.

  • @ronaldnoll3247
    @ronaldnoll3247 4 місяці тому +7

    It is not clear to me what is simpler, the original equation or the calculated result.

  • @ChristosBaltasis
    @ChristosBaltasis 2 місяці тому

    Given x=½(1+√5) then x²=(1/4)(1+5+2√5)=(1/4)(4+2+2√5)=(1/4)(4+2(1+√5))=(1/4)(4+2*2x)=1+x therefore x²=x+1

  • @johnblackledge4009
    @johnblackledge4009 4 місяці тому +15

    8% of students got this right.
    98% of the rest of humanity thought, "Why do we pay these people for this pointless gibberish?"

    • @DeadlyBlaze
      @DeadlyBlaze 4 місяці тому +2

      98% of the rest of humanity can keep have that thought while working 996 unskilled labour till they're 70.

    • @donaldasayers
      @donaldasayers 4 місяці тому +5

      Revelling in his ignorance whilst posting using machines designed by people who understand mathematics, using mathematics.

    • @echandler
      @echandler 4 місяці тому +4

      The 8% get to respond when the 98% ask "Do you want fries with that?" The problem itself is good. This explanation dwells too long on routine algebra that someone encountering this problem should have already mastered. The good part is that the operation of raising a number to a power can be reduced in several ways. First is by nesting it as a sequence of squaring and cubing operations. Second is by using a recurrence relation. Third is that replacing x squared to a linear expression in x using *recursion*.

    • @stevealexander8010
      @stevealexander8010 3 місяці тому

      @@DeadlyBlaze Sorry dude - I have a math degree and there are any number of ppl who could never follow this vid yet who can buy & sell us. Bezos, Zuckerberg and Musk may be relative 'illiterati', but not "unskilled".

    • @growleym504
      @growleym504 3 місяці тому +1

      @@echandler The "problem" is made up out of thin air with no basis in the real world. Why would you ever need to know the solution? If it were based on an actual real world problem, a terminal window with python called up or else a $4.99 calculator are all that is needed. We don't have to re-invent mathematics every time we have a reason to solve something. Obviously the answer is calculated at approximately 322. Done. Now, get back to work. Play time is over.

  • @peterdenner3447
    @peterdenner3447 Місяць тому

    Using x^12 = (x^2)^6 seems a bit convoluted. You can get from x^2 = x + 1 to x^12 = 144x + 89 faster like this:
    x^4 = (x+1)^2 = x^2 + 2x + 1 = x + 1 + 2x + 1 = 3x + 2
    x^8 = (3x + 2)^2 = 9x^2 + 12x + 4 = 9x + 9 + 12x + 4 = 21x + 13
    x^12 = x^8 x^4 = (21x + 13)(3x + 2) = 63x^2 + 42x + 39x + 26 = 63x + 63 + 81x + 26 = 144x + 89
    or like this:
    x^3 = x^2 + x = x + 1 + x = 2x + 1
    x^6 = (2x + 1)^2 = 4x^2 + 4x + 1 = 4x + 4 + 4x + 1 = 8x + 5
    x^12 = (8x + 5)^2 = 64x^2 + 80x + 25 = 64x + 64 + 80x + 25 = 144x + 89

  • @EyupSkydiver
    @EyupSkydiver 2 місяці тому +8

    Something about writing “x” that way annoys me.

    • @digbycrankshaft7572
      @digbycrankshaft7572 Місяць тому

      I learned to write it that way so it doesn't look like the multiplication sign. It's writing 9 like g that annoys me.

  • @Ridelto
    @Ridelto 3 місяці тому +1

    No need to use x. Just split the numerator and denominator, then square the numerator three times getting the common factor out every time simplifying with the denominator, and finally multiply one more time the numerator by 7+3sqrt(5) to get 644/4 and (288/4)sqr(5) or 161 + 72sqr(5). That simple.

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 4 місяці тому +18

    X is two straight lines crossing. What is this atrocity you are drawing? :)

    • @blacksmith67
      @blacksmith67 4 місяці тому +2

      In most mathematics, x is like a sine wave from zero to 2πr with a diagonal line through it.
      I have seen his style of x before and it bugs me too.

    • @josepeixoto3384
      @josepeixoto3384 4 місяці тому

      C'mon, it's so that you do not MIX it up with the x on 2x3=6

    • @justliberty4072
      @justliberty4072 3 місяці тому +3

      @@josepeixoto3384 but nobody doing algebra ever writes 2x3...

  • @panchostanza8712
    @panchostanza8712 3 місяці тому +6

    Here's what everyone is missing:
    the solution demonstrated would be doable by anyone who has done basic algebra

    • @donthuis
      @donthuis 2 місяці тому

      Not me, see my earlier remark

  • @jriturria
    @jriturria 2 місяці тому +2

    That equation (x²-x-1= 0), should have at least two answers. In fact, the equation passes by the points P₁ =(1.62 | 0) & P₂ = (-0.62 | 0).

  • @walcant5610
    @walcant5610 3 місяці тому +3

    Prop. Phi = x ,
    x ^n = F(n) x + F(n-1)
    = F(n)/2 + F(n-1) +
    + F(n)/2 * 5^.5
    F(1) = F(2) = 1
    F(n) = F(n-1) + F(n-2)
    F(12) = 144,
    F(11) = 89

  • @olegalferov8125
    @olegalferov8125 25 днів тому

    12=2*2*3. Notice that ((1+sqrt(5))/2)^3=2+sqrt(5) because of binomial: (1+a)^3=1+3a+3a^2+a^3. After that, square it twice by brute-force by formula (a+b)^2=a^2+2ab+b^2. This is it.

  • @jagjeetmule2271
    @jagjeetmule2271 3 місяці тому +3

    Isn't it simple ✓5 = 2.2360 then +1 and whole ÷ 2 and then 1.618 to the power 12 = approx 322

    • @growleym504
      @growleym504 3 місяці тому

      Duh. Exactly. Some people are so removed from the real world they would look at a micrometer and think it must be some sort of giant earring or something. We didn't land men on the moon by answering mathematical problems with more problems. We did it by calculating real world solutions and applying them.

    • @nabuk3
      @nabuk3 2 місяці тому

      Right, it could have been solved in 30 seconds instead of partly solved in 11 minutes.

    • @defevfefwow976
      @defevfefwow976 2 місяці тому

      Its math not physics. You cant do approximation because Its easier, you need to simplify as much as possible

  • @kidscartoon4446
    @kidscartoon4446 2 місяці тому

    Slove using cube root of unity
    Omega = -1/2-√5/2
    In question asked ( -omega^12) that is equal to Omega^12
    And omega^12 = Omega^3 and that is equal to 1

  • @justinatgmail
    @justinatgmail 3 місяці тому +1

    Square it.
    Square that (^4).
    Do it one more time (^8)
    Multiply the 4th power and 8th power results.
    A little simplification and you get to the answer in about 1/4 the time.

  • @ernerwerkhardt9789
    @ernerwerkhardt9789 2 місяці тому +1

    x^2 = x + 1
    x = (sqrt (5)+1)/2 = 1.618034 (phi)
    1.618034^12 = 321.99689

  • @justliberty4072
    @justliberty4072 3 місяці тому +4

    What cultures write x with two curves rather that lines that cross?

    • @jeannieheard1465
      @jeannieheard1465 3 місяці тому

      DQ Culture

    • @growleym504
      @growleym504 3 місяці тому

      Yeah that really irritated me, too.

    • @themulticourse2460
      @themulticourse2460 2 місяці тому

      ​@@growleym504 that's is the best one to write with curve. I think you didn't have multiply symbol infront of x then you sould be confused if that's multiplication or x

    • @Guidussify
      @Guidussify Місяць тому +1

      That was how I learned to write a lower-case x in school long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away.

  • @jdsahr
    @jdsahr 2 місяці тому

    Because 1 and sqrt(5) have no rational common factor, [(1 + sqrt(5))/2]^12 is guaranteed to be of the form A + B sqrt(5), which, you'll notice, it is (per the conclusion).
    In a way sqrt(5) takes the role of the imaginary unit i = sqrt(-1) for complex numbers. (a + bj)^k is closed for integers a, b, k, so will [(1 + sqrt(5))/2]^k be closed for all integers k. As it happens, (a + bi)^k is closed for *all* real and complex exponents k, of course.
    Note that the approach shown would also permit computing negative integer powers of (1 + sqrt(5))/2.
    -----
    Yet another approach would be to create a matrix operator equivalent to "multiply by (1 + sqrt(5))/2", over the basis a*1 + b* sqrt(5) from which it would be straightforward to generate integer expressions of positive (and negative!) integer powers.
    An interesting problem. One could in principle do fairly large powers "by hand" with these techniques. Using the matrix approach, it would be efficient to construct x, x^2, x^4, x^8, x^16 etc. to go after fairly large powers. And of course, by inverting the "multiply by x" matrix, you could handle large, negative integer powers the same way.
    exercises like this are not merely academic; If you perform x^12 numerically, you're going to get roundoff errors in the floating point math --- but the final answer is *exact* and the only numerical error will be from computation of sqrt(5) *once*.

  • @wadzanaikanongovere4798
    @wadzanaikanongovere4798 4 місяці тому +4

    Stupid me was going to use Binomial Expansion/Pascal's Triangle. This solution you provided is elegant 🙏🙏🙏

    • @mameahmed3758
      @mameahmed3758 4 місяці тому +1

      But their is simple method more than this u just use numerical method

    • @robertveith6383
      @robertveith6383 4 місяці тому

      Wrong. The host's solution is *not* "elegant."

    • @seanbrendangarrette7644
      @seanbrendangarrette7644 4 місяці тому

      @@robertveith6383 What is the elegant solution?

  • @Єнот-т4й
    @Єнот-т4й 4 місяці тому

    I just did this by repeated application of x^2, x^4, x^8 ; then x^4 * x^8, using x^2 = 1+x
    φ^2 = 1 + φ
    φ^4 = (φ^2)^2 = (1 + φ)^2 = 1 + 2φ + φ^2 = 1 + 2φ + (1 + φ) = 3φ + 2
    φ^8 = (φ^4)^2 = (3φ + 2)^2 = 9φ^2 + 12φ + 4 = 9(1+φ) + 12φ + 4 = 21φ+13
    φ^12 = (21φ + 13)(3φ+2) = 89 + 144φ

  • @FrancescoBalena
    @FrancescoBalena 4 місяці тому +3

    Change pensil

  • @mariakoutsoulieri9525
    @mariakoutsoulieri9525 3 місяці тому

    Needs calculations but is straightforward: ((1+ √5)/2)^12 = ((1+√5)x1/2))^12 = ((1+√5)x1/2))^2x6 = [(1+√5)^2)x (1/4)]^6. then we apply the (a+b)^2 formula = a^2 + 2ab + b^2... given that (a+b)^6 = (a+b)^(2x3) = ((a+b)^2)^3... we come to a point where we have... [1+√5(2+√5)]^3 x 1/(4^6).... we apply the rule (a+b)^3 = a^3 + 3(a^2)b + 3a(b^2) + b^3... the rest is pure calculations... Many calculations but no tricks!!!! straightforward answer. Finaly we multiply with 1/(4^6), basically division.

  • @elgb5671
    @elgb5671 3 місяці тому +3

    x²-x-1=0
    x²-x+1=2
    x³+1=2x+2
    x³=2x+1=2+sqrt5
    x⁶=9+4sqrt5
    x¹²=161+72sqrt5
    수능 15번보다 쉬운듯

  • @am-gobears5191
    @am-gobears5191 Місяць тому

    Easily done a "peasant" way as follows. The square of (1+sqrt(5))/2 is (3+sqrt(5))/2 simply using the (a+b)^2 formula, so the original 12th power reduces to finding (3+sqrt(5))/2 to the 6th power. The same way, the square of the latter is (7+3sqrt(5))/2, so the problem further reduces to taking the cube of the latter. The square of that expression is (47+21sqrt(5))/2, so - by simply multiplying that by (7+3sqrt(5))/2 and collecting the terms - one gets 161+72sqrt(5). By the way, the value of that is pretty close to 322.

  • @michaelqi5202
    @michaelqi5202 3 місяці тому +11

    the way he wrote 1 is weird

    • @和平和平-c4i
      @和平和平-c4i 3 місяці тому +1

      Why ?? In what part of the world are you ?

    • @xl000
      @xl000 3 місяці тому

      I' m ok with his 1's
      But the b are really weird.
      It's like a combination of two cursive styles

    • @martinleitner8092
      @martinleitner8092 2 місяці тому +1

      His x ist weird. An x ist supposed to be two crossing lines.

    • @xl000
      @xl000 2 місяці тому

      @@martinleitner8092 His x is ok. It's in cursive style.

  • @Bill_Woo
    @Bill_Woo 3 місяці тому +1

    Small deduction for ambiguous "1" vs. "7" display.
    Yet a miracle occurs, that "c" and its inversion somehow produce "x", and it's clear and unambiguous. Every time I saw that I both winced and smiled.

  • @ВикторПоплевко-е2т
    @ВикторПоплевко-е2т 4 місяці тому +13

    11:04 this isn't an answer to the question

    • @Helloworld-o5i
      @Helloworld-o5i 3 місяці тому

      It is 20^6

    • @Hatifnote
      @Hatifnote 3 місяці тому

      Why isn't?!

    • @ВикторПоплевко-е2т
      @ВикторПоплевко-е2т 3 місяці тому

      @@Hatifnote think about it yourself I'm too lazy to explain it

    • @stevet7522
      @stevet7522 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Hatifnotebecause he didn't finish it. He just left it with another equation instead of an answer.

    • @Hatifnote
      @Hatifnote 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ВикторПоплевко-е2т
      Perhaps you saw or remak some thing I didn't do and as i think hé gived the answer your question had made me tell you why you think isn't an answer..
      As you want not to tell me do thank you!
      Perhaps becaude at the end hé gived not thé symbole =
      ?
      Also he is perhaps lazy to finish something winch is easy

  • @johnstanley5692
    @johnstanley5692 4 місяці тому

    Alternative? extract even and odd powers of expansion (1+x)^12 = p1(y) +x*p2(y) here x=sqrt(5), and y=x^2=5 then divide by 2^12.
    in this case p1(y)=y^6 + 66*y^5 + 495*y^4 + 924*y^3 + 495*y^2 + 66*y + 1 = 659456 -> 161.
    p2(y)=12*y^5 + 220*y^4 + 792*y^3 + 792*y^2 + 220*y + 12 =294912 -> 72=> (p1(y)+x*p2y)/2^12 = 161+72*sqrt(5)

  • @zth809
    @zth809 Місяць тому +1

    3:19 just use binomial theorem

  • @pythagorasaurusrex9853
    @pythagorasaurusrex9853 3 місяці тому

    When you know some advanced geometry with the golden ratio, it is simple.
    (1+sqrt(5))/2 = phi, so phi^2=phi+1
    square it: phi^4=phi^2+2phi+1=3phi+2
    square again: phi^8=21phi+13
    multiply last two results together: phi^12=phi^8*phi^4=(21phi+13)(3phi+2)=144phi+89=72*sqrt(5)+161.
    If you don't know the basic property of the golden ratio, then one will not get the first idea in this video. If you do, you can immediately start with step 2: x^2=x+1

  • @coolbits2235
    @coolbits2235 4 місяці тому +1

    I solved by factoring out 2 in step 1, this gives 2^-12 as a factor and (1+sqrt(5)) power 12 Now in each step you will get more factors that you can take out and power. Its almost the same amount of work that way.

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому

      The easiest way to hand simplify the expression is to cube it, then square twice. Try it to see how neat that is. You'll laugh at the narrator for taking the long and messy route.

  • @rudolfdrabek6277
    @rudolfdrabek6277 Місяць тому

    term in Brackets is the golden cut. answer: 0.5 +- sqrt1,25 = 1,618 and 0,618 and now to the power of 12 and you are ready. shortest way

  • @braziliangentleman5148
    @braziliangentleman5148 3 місяці тому

    (1 + √5)/2 is the golden ratio, and it has some properties related to the fibonacci number. I will call this number g(for golden ration).
    First of all, we have g²=g+1; therefore, if we multiply g both sides, we get g³ = g² + g, and on we go. Now if we replace g², we end up with g³ = g + 1 + g, that being g³ = 2g + 1. If we do it recursively, you will notice that this expression will go like: gⁿ = Fibo(n)g + Fibo(n-1) being Fibo(k) the k-th number of the fibonacci sequence.
    For those who never saw this before, the fibonacci sequence is a sequence where the next term is the sum of the last 2 terms. It starts at 1. To get to the next term, we sum 1+0, because we have nothing before the starting term, then we get a 1. For the 3rd term, we sum 1+1 and get 2, being 1 and 1 the last 2 terms. For the next, we sum 1+2 and get 3, being 1 and 2 the last 2 terms, and so on. The Fibonacci sequence should look like this: Fibonacci {1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55}. What is so important about this sequence is that if we get the ratio of 2 consecutive terms, we approach the golden ratio(named g before).
    now if we want to get the value of g¹², we need to get the value of Fibo(12) and Fibo(11), those values being 144 and 89. We end up with g¹² = 144g + 89. replacing (1 + √5)/2 in g, we get 161 + 72g

  • @yhosvanysoler1211
    @yhosvanysoler1211 3 дні тому

    [ 1 + sqr(5)]/2 = Golden ratio, or Golden number or Golden proportion; which is a mathematical constant; then, we have that
    ([(Golden ratio)^2]^2)^3

  • @juandesalgado
    @juandesalgado 4 місяці тому

    It's perhaps easier to figure out first the relation
    phi^n = F_n . phi + F_{n-1}
    where F_n is the n-th Fibonacci number; then compute phi^12 directly.

  • @ПавелКовалёв-с5ь
    @ПавелКовалёв-с5ь Місяць тому

    (1+ sqrt(5))/2 is golden ratio that has another property a/b=(a+b)/b. We can get result much faster. Moreover ✓5 can be expressed with two Geron itteretions like 161/72. Than we get 161+~161~322

  • @DavidRTribble
    @DavidRTribble 4 дні тому

    2:42 Instead of computing (x^2)^3 = (x+1)^3 the long way, could you just use the binomial expansion for (x+1)^3 directly?

  • @albertomontori2863
    @albertomontori2863 4 місяці тому

    After you arrived at (3x + 2)^3 , It would be more obvious to just do the cubic binomial expansion (a+b)^3= a^3 + b^3 + 3a^2b + 3ab^2; also the Tartaglia triangle was a viable method to do that binomial expansion!

  • @julianocg
    @julianocg 4 місяці тому

    If you consider that (1+(5)^.5)/2=Phi, the golden ratio, and the relation Phi^n=Phi[n]*Phi+Phi[n-1], where Phi[n] is the n-th number of the Fibonaci sequence.
    Thus, Phi^12=Phi[12]*Phi+Phi[11], and finally, Phi^12=144*Phi+89.

  • @johnpool1111
    @johnpool1111 3 місяці тому +2

    This is easy if you happen to recognize z = ½(1 + √5) as a root of x²-x-1, which gives z²=z+1. Now calculate z^12 stepwise and while doing so replace each occurence of z² by z+1. This gives z^12=144z+89.
    Substituting z = ½(1 + √5) gives 161 + 72√5.

    • @nabuk3
      @nabuk3 2 місяці тому

      Right, so as I see it, it wasn't really solved, while several people here seemed to solve it well, faster, and more simply.

  • @stefantsarev4442
    @stefantsarev4442 2 місяці тому

    Once you get to (x+1)^6, you can use the reverse Horner to make the polynomial.

  • @IRVINMILLER
    @IRVINMILLER Місяць тому

    ((1+5^1/2)/2)^12= (2^-12)(((((1+5^1/2)^2)^2)^2)^3) This can be done as easily as your clever but indirect approach. However, I did made one serious miscalculation with powers of 2 at the first few attempts. I see others recognized this approach

  • @beatzedit1
    @beatzedit1 Місяць тому +1

    I understood it well till 2:25 but why do that all work
    just do (x^2)^6 = (x+1)^2(x+1)^2(x+1)^2
    x^12 = x^2 +x + 1 + x^2 + x + 1 + x^2 +x + 1
    x^12 = 3x^2 + 6x + 6
    x^12 = ????
    Whoops i made a mistake
    sry guys

  • @Leeroy49
    @Leeroy49 3 місяці тому +1

    Moivre-Binet formula for implicit Fibonacci solves :)

  • @zanti4132
    @zanti4132 4 місяці тому

    Once you have established x² = x + 1 with x≠ 0, just multiply by x to get an equation in terms of x³:
    x³ = x² + x = (x + 1) + x = 2x + 1
    From here keep going to get equations for each integer exponent:
    x⁴ = x³ + x² = (2x + 1) + (x + 1) = 3x + 2
    x⁵ = x⁴ + x³ = (3x + 2) + (2x + 1) = 5x + 3
    x⁶ = x⁵ + x⁴ = (5x + 3) + (3x + 2) = 8x + 5
    x⁷ = x⁶ + x⁵ = (8x + 5) + (5x + 3) = 13x + 8
    x⁸ = x⁷ + x⁶ = (13x + 8) + (8x + 5) = 21x + 13
    etc. The reason for the Fibonacci sequence coming into play that other posters have pointed out becomes apparent.

    • @oahuhawaii2141
      @oahuhawaii2141 4 місяці тому

      But that's still a long and drawn out process. If you noticed the cube removes the denominator, then things get easy:
      x³ = 2*x + 1 = √5 + 2
      Just square that twice!

  • @adamwhiteson6866
    @adamwhiteson6866 Місяць тому

    I enjoyed the presentation of the technique. Very cool But I do agree it was way overkill for this problem.

  • @Sigma.Infinity
    @Sigma.Infinity 3 місяці тому

    Use the property of golden ratio: φⁿ = Fibonacci(n)φ + Fibonacci(n-1). So here, φ¹² = Fib(12)φ + Fib(11) = 144φ + 89 ≈ 321.997. This is the same as the final answer in the video. (Note that Fib(n) is zero based.)

  • @robertlunderwood
    @robertlunderwood 3 місяці тому

    I immediately set the golden ratio to x and jumped to x^2 - x - 1 = 0 => x^2 = x + 1. Multiply both sides by x, simplify, square, simplify, square again, simplify, substitute, and solve, abusing x^2 = x + 1 whenever possible.

  • @joelcalabrese
    @joelcalabrese 2 місяці тому

    Brings back thoughts of my high school algeabra class.

  • @p-k98
    @p-k98 2 місяці тому

    Split the 12 as 3*4.
    Numerator you get something like -
    8*8*8*8*(2+√5)*(2+√5)*(2+√5)*(2+√5)
    And in the denominator you would get -
    8*8*8*8
    We already know what cancels out. Then the answer is -
    (2+√5)*(2+√5)*(2+√5)*(2+√5)
    Which is equal to -
    (9+4√5)*(9+4√5)
    Which is equal to -
    81+80+36√5+36√5
    Ans = 161+72√5

  • @SatishGhanekar-rm3qm
    @SatishGhanekar-rm3qm 22 дні тому +2

    Entire comments section is filled with toppers.

  • @Hatifnote
    @Hatifnote 3 місяці тому

    easy for anyone knowed or can see
    that
    x²=x+1..
    Many examples in calculus are tributary to some anterior knowledge.
    Utility
    write any number as solution of some equation than try to simplify it by this equation
    Particular case :if there is sq root it will be root of second equation
    Ex:
    x=1-√5
    (1-√5)¹⁰?
    (1-√5)²=1²-2*√5+5=6-2√5=4+2(1-√5)
    =4+2x
    x²=4+2x
    x⁴=16+16x+4x²=16+16x+4(4+2x)
    =32+24x
    x⁸=(32+24x)²
    =32²+2*32*24x+576
    =1600+1536x
    x¹⁰=(1600+1536x)*(4+2x)
    =6400+3200x+6144+3072x
    =12544+6272x
    =12544+6272*(1-√5)
    =6272(2+1-√5))
    =6272(1-√5)
    Finally
    x¹⁰=6272x

  • @cmichaelhoover8432
    @cmichaelhoover8432 2 місяці тому

    Using a RPN calculator: 5, Enter, Square root. 1 +, 2 divide, 12 Y to the x power. Answer 321.997 Took me about 20 seconds!