I just hope Richard realises the importance of these interviews in the history of stand up as an art form. So many stories you would have never heard anywhere else. No one can predict where a career path will take you and sure we'ed all like to be more acknowledged for what we do, so "Richard , thank you for what you are accomplishing here"
To be fair, apart from Time Gentlemen, it's his only major TV appearance so hardly surprising he has fond memories. I loved it back in the day, but apparently it just confused most of the TV audience at the time.
I like how you used their first names in the first half of that sentence and their last names in last part of the a fore mentioned ahh...Sentence. Noice.
They both need to review their lifestyles, Ratko Mladic(sic) in particular looks like he's got two weeks to live. Which no doubt would please the Hague, but followers of contemporary stand up would be disappointed.
I have just bought a pound a month badge in sheer defiance of a comment posted below. I have never bought a badge in defiance before. I can now add this to my list of things I have done. I'd like to thank everyone involved for making this possible.
The stuff Stewart Lee says at 54.00 rings so true, I used to see my Dad during the late 70's and early 80's every other weekend, and we never did anything at all.
I had tickets to see Ricky Gervais but I couldn't be bothered to go so I sold them. (It took ages to sell them and had to reduce them from face value.) I watched the show on Netflix and I was so glad I didn't go. Half of it was just lifted from things people said to him on twitter! Barrel well scraped there. Such a shame when they turn to drink.
"Half of it was just lifted from things people said to him on twitter! Barrel well scraped there." - You're describing Joe Lycett's entire career, right there.
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Did people not like After Life? I thought it was genius, but if you say so. I guess that IMDB rating and all the awards it was nominated for and won aren't indicative of objective quality. Stew is a better stand up, but hard to watch at times. Ten times better that Ricky, although Ricky's wealth being about a hundred times Stew's is probably something of a comfort to him. Not that money can equate with quality! Or the tens of thousands paid to Stew for the show he did on Sky TV, the show that has passed almost completely under the radar, wouldn't have been such a phenomenal success compared to Ricky's million dollar Netflix specials of recent years. It's not comparable! Quality will out. If you can find someone who's heard of Stew, and they're in the comedy business but keeping their identity secret, they will 80-90% likely tell you that Stewart Lee is the most respected comedian in UK right now, echoing Stew's own words on the subject. Ricky Gervais will say the same, probably sobbing himself to sleep on the big pile of money he sleeps in like a happy, fat, genius hamster that's been in a successful relationship for over forty years. He's not even a good enough comedian to have his relationships fall apart. Not even trying.
I like Joe Lycett very much when he does the consumer stuff, highlighting the problems of klarna etc. But his late night show with the guests stuck on a barge was really tedious.
Thanks for this look back at TMWRNJ! Lots of interesting stuff in there. I too am disappointed to hear the DVDs won't be released, since I've only been able to see lo-fi videos on UA-cam. Oh well, off to buy FoF DVDs instead. I hope Stew wasn't as depressed in the interview as he appeared, and was rather playing his misanthrope character. But if he was depressed, I hope he feels better.
Comedians are the philosophers of our times. It's good when some accept that role and make thoughtful, provocative and challenging content. Much respect to both these gentlemen
I agree. Philosophy often stems from political & existential satire, and I’m grateful for Lee, Iannucci and, to a degree, Coogan, keeping the trend alive!
I kind of wish that Stewart hadn't done this in semi-character, as funny as it was. It'd be nice to see the two of them just interacting. He's so quick to laugh and self-effacing in normal interviews.
Grand to see you fine gentlemen again! Just finished the complete series of TMWRNJ bootleg DVD's - whilst I'm gutted it isn't getting an official release I know it's not from your lack of trying. Best of luck in your current gigs!
re the failed dvd release of TMWRNJ. Stewart Lee said in a Mustard interview:- Well, not at the moment. Saying that it'll never be released would be slightly melodramatic, but at the moment I don't want to put the required money in. I've got a mortgage and kids and it seems like funding a vanity project. There are various things that have to be done to raise money for it, like old live stuff that was going to be released. But I wasn't very happy with that, and there were other people that had performed in it who hadn't yet been asked whether they were happy about it. The BBC also wouldn't give us download rights, which is a big part of how you make your money back now. As the years go by, physical media sells less. I wouldn't think it's over but it's not happening right now. Maybe the fact that even we won't buy it will drive the price down! So someone will be able to get it for a lot less now, if they want it. But it hasn't been destroyed. What's good is that, because there was some interest in it, it's been moved out of the room destined for landfill. And it's all up on the internet, so that's good. But I was sort of surprised that Rich wanted to spend the money on it, having just lost ÂŁ30,000 in Edinburgh with Avalon, and about to have a kid. We would probably have made the money back in the end, because we did with the other one, but the production costs would be more because there's so much of it, about twenty hours. It's like I, Claudius or something. But it'll turn up eventually, like a dog returning to its own vomit (laughs).
Yeah, this does seem like a sore point between them now. I can understand why Rich was annoyed, considering they were actually filming stuff to go on the DVD by the time Stew changed his mind. Plus Rich talks to the fans a lot on Twitter, he's seen people are keen to buy it. I don't know why they don't do a Kickstarter for it - if Rich can get 100 grand for AIOTM by himself, then the rights to TMWRNJ couldn't be that difficult.
I remember getting left with my brother with a bottle of coke and packet of crisps while my parents were in the pub all afternoon. They would come out every so often with replacements. This was in the 70's in Willenhall.
Well well well, look at that Richard Herring, with his suit and tie... As Stewart Lee puts it, "We all grow up to become what we despised as teenagers..."
Back on Fist Of Fun, I think in the spinoff book, Stew mentioned a fight every week between him and the director or floor manager or whoever, who was constantly trying to make Stew's hair look tidy. Stew wanted it "to look like a spider on my head". You can see each week who won.
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That's actually a badly maintained toupee. Stewart's really vain, although he tries hard not to show it.
I went to several Glastonbury festivals in the 90's, and spent most of my time in the cabaret tent, which was one of the few places you could still see the kind of wonderfully bizzare acts they mention. Saw Mr Methane a few times, and there were many acts which came on stage, performed and left to bemused silence, but had a spark of insane genius. Woody 'Bop' Muddy became a headline act and drew huge ecstatic crowds, mainly for his 'record graveyard' show, something which could only possibly work in a live context, and even with a fairly simple premise was bewilderingly strange.
@@B.A.Pilgrim What's bullshit about that? I went to a few Glastonbury festivals in the late 90s and also saw Mr Methane and Woody Bop Muddy in the cabaret tent. As well as Charlie Chuck's legendary final slot on the Sunday which always drew massive crowds. Things like Glastonbury may seem exclusive nowadays but it really wasn't that hard to get a ticket in the 90s. It didn't always have the same reputation it does today, until about 1995 the only time you'd hear anyone on TV mention the festival would be a 20 second bit on the news informing people of the number of arrests.
CLEARLY the unmentionable 'reasons' for the lack of DVD release and Stew's repeated statements that 'I'd not be able to do anything like that ever again', combined with Stew's current favour and popularity resurgence is all the evidence we need to surmise that someone at the BBC has finally gotten around to watching TMWRNJ, realised its genius and commissioned a third series for the 2017 season. And if I die before then, I'll go to my grave happy in the knowledge that this is going to happen. So shh.
Pretty sure I've been unwell in the year and two months since that was posted. Are you incredulous at the statement, or trying to sell me pharmaceuticals?
Good morning with Richard not Judy was one of the most important comedy programs of the 90s. I took it for granted but now, in this world of puritanical censorship, I realise it was so important and hope you and Stewart keep bringing the rain as the Americans say.
it was an amazing show and it only existed as Richard would say, because no one at the BBC bothered to watch it. The actor Kevin Eldon as the vicar was hilarious
Stew makes a really important point--subtly, but firmly--about the relative value of comedy when weighed against the real lives of other human beings. He's essentially saying "I'd rather be a little less funny if it means I'm not inflicting undeserved pain." A lot of comedians could stand to ponder that.
We're doing our best to fund things via fan donation and will have as few ads as possible (the youtube ad system would not bring in enough revenue to be worth the inconvenince anyway), but we do have to have the occasioanl sponsorship to keep us going. But becoming a montly badger at rhlstp.co.uk helps us to pay for the costs of filming with a minimum level of this kind of stuff (and you can get ad free versions of the audio in return). Thanks for the support.
I thoroughly enjoyed this! I have to admit I am an 80s child and although I was familiar with the names Lee and Herring growing up, I don't ever recall watching any of your t.v. series! However! I can say I am an avid fan of RHLSTP. Long may it continue. Thanks ✌
Thanks for all these Richard, always good (and easily worth the pound(s)). Congratulations on the new arrival. Hoping to get to a show when I pop back to the UK in May.
Does Stewart actually like Richard ? I don't know the 'politics' between them over the years. I know they go far back. I also know Stewart has that moody, sarcastic edge to him . Richard seems very happy to reminisce and speak about their shows with real enthusiasm, talking about them as a ground breaking level humor. Stewart , seems to be rather more apathetic about it all. He also makes the point (several times) about his style changing and how he has grown up and moved on from that period of his life ( and humor) somewhat distancing himself a bit from that point of his career, whilst Stewart seems to remain in a certain 'arrested development. I've watched a lot of these pod casts ( which i've really enjoyed) and a lot of Herrings interviews and stuff recently, I really do like him and think he's talented,. But it is apparent that he feels a little (unjustly) left behind by his peers. As someone who was once in the mainstream arena it must be hard to see those he worked with have careers that have continued to grow, where as his ( for reasons I don't know or understand) has remained somewhat ..less so. He mentions it quite a lot, sometimes to the point where it is difficult and awkward to watch. It must have had an effect on his relationship with Stewart ( who in my opinion is THE best comic of my generation. However, watching him in the 90's is like watching a different act. He has developed his craft to become an absolutely amazing talent). Richard has used words like 'defeated' and said ( rather unconvincingly) to have 'accepted his fate' - it brings a sadness to him that I find sometimes distracts from what he is doing. I'm writing this after a late night out and perhaps haven't articulated what I mean very well. I want to make it clear that I am a fan of Richard's and try and see his stuff when I can - even the rather awkward clip with the maniac heckler in the audience who went moronic about one of Richard's joke. He shows his worth dealing with that prat. It's just every time I watch him and things go down the 'I'm not given the appreciation I deserve' route my heart sinks a little. The fact his You-tube clips get so many views and his pod casts are so successful shows he still has a massive fan base. I wish he would concentrate on that before this other thing envelopes his entire out-put.
Don't feel too bad for him, on the whole he seems pretty happy. The thing that worries me the most is the fact that, from this self deprecating run, I wonder which of his other jokes harbour in truths. A worrying thought indeed. I'm glad I don't know him in real life.
+elijah pink It's a role they both kinda play. They both pretend to hate each other. I'm not saying they don't annoy each other, they probably do, but there's almost a sibling love there.
But the whole point of it is that the inordinate amount of enjoyment Stewart achieves through begrudging and belittling Richard is more than enough enjoyment for both of them. BOOM BOOM! I think it would be unkind to begrudge Stewart that enjoyment. I'd say it's likely he's just being his true self. The act would be a bit lame if he felt the need to patronise his mate with bullshit.
Nah, they're still good friends. #1 Richard explained at some point that they stopped working together because it wasn't right for either of them, they had a bit of a tiff at the time and their working relationship ended, with neither of them interested in doing anything new together. #2 They still see each other regularly, so I can imagine Richard likes to tease Stewart a lot about the kid thing etc. and it might be his jokes are more jarring on Stew, like it might be with any friend you've told something ad nauseum to. #3 Apparently Stewart was in a very bad mood before this show and it's seeping through. There's apparently an unedited bit where Stew has a go about Richard's agents and how shittily they treat him (Richard). Particularly on that last point, they're definitely still firm friends.
There's no mention of the TMWRNJ sketch with the 80s alternative comedy nostalgia and self-agrandisement, but I notice the SDP mugs from that are on show here, presumably as a sort of self-aware gesture.
i’d love to see him as long as he doesn’t do his whole awkward persona the whole time and lets himself go a little bit. might be better in 2021 without having to be in front of an audience
PLEASEEEEE release Richard Not Judy. I don't know why it was shelved but it will complete my DVD wall of all your stuff. I don't want to live in a world where Histor & Pliny can't be watched on a compact disc form, even if it's on compact discs older sibling LaserDisc, I'd be happy. Basically I want it on some sort of disc.
I can't think of an 'artist' who was so completely driven by how he is viewed by the general public that he made two series of a comedy about a disabled man in a nursing home because he got in trouble for saying mong.
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Ricky Gervaise IS a total mongoloid himself. He IS funny, but not for any of the reasons he thinks he is. And he's fat.
The TMWRNJ intro where they're dressed as Savile has been dropped into numerous compilations on UA-cam by people who think that such renderings or glancing references to Savile's perversions are proof that "they all knew".
I have watched this several times and the nature of Rich and Stew's relationship remains a question to me. Presumably Stew wouldn't have come on RHLSTP twice if he hated Rich, but there's an element of cruelty in some of Stew's remarks that seems genuine (and that I haven't seen in other interviews that he's done). Hopefully I'm wrong.
When they're talking about TMWRJ, I think R is implying the Ironic Review idea was stolen by Chris Morris for Nathan Barley. The actress he mentions from Ironic Review is Chris Morris' wife.
Funny you'd find a weird book at a junk shop. My second copy of the Fist of Fun annual came from a charity shop in a tub called "All things free". They couldn't even sell it for 25p! lol
A friend of my mine was in the audience - apparently Stew went on at length about the quality of Rich's management and it became genuinely uncomfortable.
Its been two weeks since I watched this and I'm still depressed that the TMWRNJ DVD isn't going to be available. Especially as I was too young to see it the first time round, and I treasure my Fist of Fun DVD.
Rich is TMWRNJ really never going to come out on DVD? That's really depressing. You clearly have the source material though, can we do a private deal for one copy? I'm prepared to pay and sign an NDA :-)
Way back in 79 I paid 10p at a charity fete to get Rod Hull and Emu autographs, Rod didn't bring Emu, we were told don't mention Emu as was Rod was the star, what a tosser.
As a big tmwrnj fan, and a big stewart lee fan, this interview just made me sad and depressed. Having watched some of it a second time. In my opinion tmwrnj was a hilarious show, at the time as funny as any of stewart lees new stand up is now. And whether he likes it or not (he doesn't seem to) stewart lee was dead funny in it. I'm sorry the dvd isn't being released and hope it has nothing to do with the seemingly mean spirited stewart lee
I kind of know what you mean, but I think we need to take it with a grain of salt. I think Stew's usually critical of old stuff he's done, and he probably likes most of TMWRNJ but tends to nitpick the negative things he remembers. I don't think he means to insult Rich, TMWRNJ, or its fans. I wish we were getting the DVD too.
If he is nitpicking the negative things, that does make me wonder why. I watched a different interview herring did with him 11 months ago and he was far less critical of it all, or rather he seemed to berate richard herring less and get on with him better. Perhaps he was just sick of having to do basically the same interview again 11 months later. But i suppose its none of my business really
Professor Know-it-all as to stewart lee's meanness, i have to say i was at the recording of this and stewart lee was standing in the corner drinking while watching the paul putner and trevor lock. so maybe the meanness was just drunkenness
I just hope Richard realises the importance of these interviews in the history of stand up as an art form. So many stories you would have never heard anywhere else. No one can predict where a career path will take you and sure we'ed all like to be more acknowledged for what we do, so "Richard , thank you for what you are accomplishing here"
Do you just hope that? See I think you hope that AND you hope that we realise that you hope that Richard realises that.
@@Uygkuyfkutfkytfkutfv 😶
I found Richard's alternate account
So why hasn’t he interviewed Jake Paul? The most culturally relevant figure in comedy.
Yeah man, just dig it out. Stu owes everything to Rich really.
Stewart Lee has maintained his appearance admirably.
The concept of grief has let himself go.
Richard's excitement and love for TMWRNJ is heartwarming. That show was fantastic and there was nothing else like it in the 90s.
To be fair, apart from Time Gentlemen, it's his only major TV appearance so hardly surprising he has fond memories. I loved it back in the day, but apparently it just confused most of the TV audience at the time.
Seems quite refreshing seeing Stewart laugh at Richard's jokes
he was 28
I love these 2. changed my whole outlook on comedy in the 90's
In summary:
"Stew, Stew, remember the 90s?"
"No."
stewart is fatter than richard, so herring should be happy that he beat lee on that
I like how you used their first names in the first half of that sentence and their last names in last part of the a fore mentioned ahh...Sentence. Noice.
thank you jesus, i like to mix it up a bit
keeps you on your toes
oliver hardy and charlie borman have let themselves go
"some of them were even better than me"
still makes me laugh
I love how Stewart Lee is so deadpan on stage yet his real-life laugh is a mad cackle!
Maniacal, indeed. He'd probably make a good murderer.
Yeh watching him tell a joke and then SUDDENLY laugh at it is almost funnier than the joke itself
@@herbert9241 He was adopted.
@@dbag3345 - Flimsy mitigation for his murdering compulsion.
ua-cam.com/video/VMxiHDD7q8w/v-deo.html
a lesbian car park attendant has let herself go
Why is general Ratko Mladic being interviewed by Charlie Brooker?
I think you mean Charley Boorman
Terry Christian has let himself go
They both need to review their lifestyles, Ratko Mladic(sic) in particular looks like he's got two weeks to live. Which no doubt would please the Hague, but followers of contemporary stand up would be disappointed.
I miss mladic
I love the fact Rich and Stew fall right back into it
I have just bought a pound a month badge in sheer defiance of a comment posted below. I have never bought a badge in defiance before. I can now add this to my list of things I have done. I'd like to thank everyone involved for making this possible.
The stuff Stewart Lee says at 54.00 rings so true, I used to see my Dad during the late 70's and early 80's every other weekend, and we never did anything at all.
RighteousBrother I think this continues to this day, the late 90’s and early 2000’s were the same for me
Saw my dad weekends in the 80’s.
He liked fishing... so we went fishing.
I still hate fishing!
We did nothing... outside!
You went fishing indoors?
congratulations Mr Herring. Bless you and your whole familodo! x
I had tickets to see Ricky Gervais but I couldn't be bothered to go so I sold them. (It took ages to sell them and had to reduce them from face value.) I watched the show on Netflix and I was so glad I didn't go. Half of it was just lifted from things people said to him on twitter! Barrel well scraped there. Such a shame when they turn to drink.
he promised that he'd be "back on form" with his next project.
That project became AfterLife...
"Half of it was just lifted from things people said to him on twitter! Barrel well scraped there." - You're describing Joe Lycett's entire career, right there.
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere Did people not like After Life? I thought it was genius, but if you say so. I guess that IMDB rating and all the awards it was nominated for and won aren't indicative of objective quality. Stew is a better stand up, but hard to watch at times. Ten times better that Ricky, although Ricky's wealth being about a hundred times Stew's is probably something of a comfort to him. Not that money can equate with quality! Or the tens of thousands paid to Stew for the show he did on Sky TV, the show that has passed almost completely under the radar, wouldn't have been such a phenomenal success compared to Ricky's million dollar Netflix specials of recent years. It's not comparable! Quality will out. If you can find someone who's heard of Stew, and they're in the comedy business but keeping their identity secret, they will 80-90% likely tell you that Stewart Lee is the most respected comedian in UK right now, echoing Stew's own words on the subject. Ricky Gervais will say the same, probably sobbing himself to sleep on the big pile of money he sleeps in like a happy, fat, genius hamster that's been in a successful relationship for over forty years. He's not even a good enough comedian to have his relationships fall apart. Not even trying.
I like Joe Lycett very much when he does the consumer stuff, highlighting the problems of klarna etc. But his late night show with the guests stuck on a barge was really tedious.
Thanks for this look back at TMWRNJ! Lots of interesting stuff in there. I too am disappointed to hear the DVDs won't be released, since I've only been able to see lo-fi videos on UA-cam. Oh well, off to buy FoF DVDs instead.
I hope Stew wasn't as depressed in the interview as he appeared, and was rather playing his misanthrope character. But if he was depressed, I hope he feels better.
Comedians are the philosophers of our times.
It's good when some accept that role and make thoughtful, provocative and challenging content.
Much respect to both these gentlemen
I agree. Philosophy often stems from political & existential satire, and I’m grateful for Lee, Iannucci and, to a degree, Coogan, keeping the trend alive!
stew was definitely in character in this one lol
Handy that.
The lines between the character and the man have definitely become blurred as the years have gone on...
Rich has said in other RHLSTPs etc that Stew had had quite a lot to drink 😂
you can tell he wrote Alun Partridge he is just like him srsly
Stew has such an infectious laugh. Bless him.
I kind of wish that Stewart hadn't done this in semi-character, as funny as it was. It'd be nice to see the two of them just interacting. He's so quick to laugh and self-effacing in normal interviews.
"He's very good at realising the vision of the artist." Oh Ricky, "'e's done ya!" 😁
Great to see the band back together...
Bodgers Badger has let himself go!
best one I've seen
Grand to see you fine gentlemen again! Just finished the complete series of TMWRNJ bootleg DVD's - whilst I'm gutted it isn't getting an official release I know it's not from your lack of trying. Best of luck in your current gigs!
Thanx a lot! Thiis made my day. Cheers from Denmark.
The phrase "Robin Reliant decorated in quasi-fascist regalia" is just wonderful
If not a little over used.
It’s Reliant Robin. Not sure why people say Robin Reliant. We don’t say Escort Ford, Astra Vauxhall or Beetle Volkswagen.
@THEMvsTHEMvsUS, I wouldn’t worry about it mate
@@themvsthemvsus I do because I don't know a lot about motorbikes.
Stewart Lee is so good ! 😍
Richard looks like he's hardly aged. Sign of a happy healthy life. I'm marking out a bit seeing these two on Stage together again.🙏
wow, Jedward have really let themselves go!
there is so much good stuff like this on youtube I don't watch normal TV anymore
You're really blazing a trail.
@@MartinHiggins1972 Sarcastic git.
@@fredflintstone8569 Yep. That about sums me up.
re the failed dvd release of TMWRNJ. Stewart Lee said in a Mustard interview:-
Well, not at the moment. Saying that it'll never be released would be slightly melodramatic, but at the moment I don't want to put the required money in. I've got a mortgage and kids and it seems like funding a vanity project.
There are various things that have to be done to raise money for it, like old live stuff that was going to be released. But I wasn't very happy with that, and there were other people that had performed in it who hadn't yet been asked whether they were happy about it. The BBC also wouldn't give us download rights, which is a big part of how you make your money back now. As the years go by, physical media sells less.
I wouldn't think it's over but it's not happening right now. Maybe the fact that even we won't buy it will drive the price down! So someone will be able to get it for a lot less now, if they want it.
But it hasn't been destroyed. What's good is that, because there was some interest in it, it's been moved out of the room destined for landfill. And it's all up on the internet, so that's good.
But I was sort of surprised that Rich wanted to spend the money on it, having just lost ÂŁ30,000 in Edinburgh with Avalon, and about to have a kid. We would probably have made the money back in the end, because we did with the other one, but the production costs would be more because there's so much of it, about twenty hours. It's like I, Claudius or something. But it'll turn up eventually, like a dog returning to its own vomit (laughs).
Yeah, this does seem like a sore point between them now. I can understand why Rich was annoyed, considering they were actually filming stuff to go on the DVD by the time Stew changed his mind. Plus Rich talks to the fans a lot on Twitter, he's seen people are keen to buy it. I don't know why they don't do a Kickstarter for it - if Rich can get 100 grand for AIOTM by himself, then the rights to TMWRNJ couldn't be that difficult.
*Stewart Lee* = *Comedian par excellence!*👍👍👍
"Obviously we came up with Histor's Eye because we thought... Histor's Eye" haha
"The occasional non-comedian like Ben Goldacre or Stewart Lee"
Beautifully done, sir, I doff my cap to you.
My favourite Lee and Herring sketch was the Shrewsbury Pie sketch from fist of fun. Utterly genius.
I haven't been sick in here.... no.
The Copenhagen Interpretation of quantum mechanics has let itself go
Brilliant. Was watching Lee & Herring's When Things for the first time, that sketch series was great.
I remember getting left with my brother with a bottle of coke and packet of crisps while my parents were in the pub all afternoon. They would come out every so often with replacements. This was in the 70's in Willenhall.
Well well well, look at that Richard Herring, with his suit and tie...
As Stewart Lee puts it, "We all grow up to become what we despised as teenagers..."
Lucky for me I'm still mentally 15 at 26 then
@@nifralo2752 there’s still many years to betray oneself luckily
Did Stewart Lee's haircut simply emerge from another dimension?
Back on Fist Of Fun, I think in the spinoff book, Stew mentioned a fight every week between him and the director or floor manager or whoever, who was constantly trying to make Stew's hair look tidy. Stew wanted it "to look like a spider on my head". You can see each week who won.
That's actually a badly maintained toupee. Stewart's really vain, although he tries hard not to show it.
My favorite bit of tmwrnj has to be men of achievement 1974. That segment had it all
Richard, you have that typical British humour, I love how Mr Lee retorts being really funny.
I went to several Glastonbury festivals in the 90's, and spent most of my time in the cabaret tent, which was one of the few places you could still see the kind of wonderfully bizzare acts they mention. Saw Mr Methane a few times, and there were many acts which came on stage, performed and left to bemused silence, but had a spark of insane genius. Woody 'Bop' Muddy became a headline act and drew huge ecstatic crowds, mainly for his 'record graveyard' show, something which could only possibly work in a live context, and even with a fairly simple premise was bewilderingly strange.
bullshit...
@@B.A.Pilgrim
What's bullshit about that?
I went to a few Glastonbury festivals in the late 90s and also saw Mr Methane and Woody Bop Muddy in the cabaret tent. As well as Charlie Chuck's legendary final slot on the Sunday which always drew massive crowds.
Things like Glastonbury may seem exclusive nowadays but it really wasn't that hard to get a ticket in the 90s. It didn't always have the same reputation it does today, until about 1995 the only time you'd hear anyone on TV mention the festival would be a 20 second bit on the news informing people of the number of arrests.
I agree that Pliny is the best thing Stewart Lee has ever done
CLEARLY the unmentionable 'reasons' for the lack of DVD release and Stew's repeated statements that 'I'd not be able to do anything like that ever again', combined with Stew's current favour and popularity resurgence is all the evidence we need to surmise that someone at the BBC has finally gotten around to watching TMWRNJ, realised its genius and commissioned a third series for the 2017 season.
And if I die before then, I'll go to my grave happy in the knowledge that this is going to happen. So shh.
+Geoff Greenwood are you unwell?
Pretty sure I've been unwell in the year and two months since that was posted. Are you incredulous at the statement, or trying to sell me pharmaceuticals?
@@GeoffGreenwood I'll sell you some drugs if not.
@@thatguyfromthatthing8573 Honestly I've forgotten who Stewart Lee even was by this point.
@@GeoffGreenwood Kudos for keeping up with the replies though. 👏👏
Still going?
Who would've thought Paul Putner would be the best preserved and best looking one 20 years later?
He hasn’t changed.
I love this so hard, thanks Rich!
The Sunday Hero’s Ahhhhh sketches are timeless genius.
No, not Ahhhh
Good morning with Richard not Judy was one of the most important comedy programs of the 90s. I took it for granted but now, in this world of puritanical censorship, I realise it was so important and hope you and Stewart keep bringing the rain as the Americans say.
it was an amazing show and it only existed as Richard would say, because no one at the BBC bothered to watch it. The actor Kevin Eldon as the vicar was hilarious
When Stewart was talking about the couple trying to reconcile in the pub it reminded of the series with Chris O'Dowd, State of the Union.
YES!! It would be amazing if they did that
Mr Herring, one word; Thanks!
That's 5 words
Pliny went all crusty and Histor fell apart, very much like their respective owners. Spooky.
Everything ButThe Girl are looking rough these days.
LOLZ!
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Stew makes a really important point--subtly, but firmly--about the relative value of comedy when weighed against the real lives of other human beings. He's essentially saying "I'd rather be a little less funny if it means I'm not inflicting undeserved pain." A lot of comedians could stand to ponder that.
Disappointing, talking about the 80's and 90's and no mention of the Jungle canyon rope bridges or the zombie pirate infestation.
Hear, hear! It's political correctness gone crazy ape bonkers. My uncle died in a jungle canyon rope bridge incident.
Thatcherite whitewashing. Nobody remembers them. Only those of us who were there.
@@Superfantastictop10 If you were there you can't remember it.
There's something unexpectedly hilarious about middle-aged men looking for chairs.
This still makes me laugh to this day
Crikey, Terry Christian got up on the wrong side of the bed didn't he?
Mr. Herring, thanks for not putting an ad on this video. I truly detest ads.
We're doing our best to fund things via fan donation and will have as few ads as possible (the youtube ad system would not bring in enough revenue to be worth the inconvenince anyway), but we do have to have the occasioanl sponsorship to keep us going. But becoming a montly badger at rhlstp.co.uk helps us to pay for the costs of filming with a minimum level of this kind of stuff (and you can get ad free versions of the audio in return). Thanks for the support.
@@Herring1967 Thanks for the reply!
I thoroughly enjoyed this! I have to admit I am an 80s child and although I was familiar with the names Lee and Herring growing up, I don't ever recall watching any of your t.v. series! However! I can say I am an avid fan of RHLSTP. Long may it continue. Thanks ✌
Thanks for all these Richard, always good (and easily worth the pound(s)). Congratulations on the new arrival. Hoping to get to a show when I pop back to the UK in May.
Rosie & Jim have let themselves go.
New Order haven't let themselves go that much.
Morrissey and General Radko Mladic have let themselves go.
Ant & Dec have let themselves go
Wow, Andy Warhol's pug has let himself go.
I've just let one go
That one you just let go has let itself go
Does Stewart actually like Richard ? I don't know the 'politics' between them over the years. I know they go far back. I also know Stewart has that moody, sarcastic edge to him . Richard seems very happy to reminisce and speak about their shows with real enthusiasm, talking about them as a ground breaking level humor. Stewart , seems to be rather more apathetic about it all. He also makes the point (several times) about his style changing and how he has grown up and moved on from that period of his life ( and humor) somewhat distancing himself a bit from that point of his career, whilst Stewart seems to remain in a certain 'arrested development. I've watched a lot of these pod casts ( which i've really enjoyed) and a lot of Herrings interviews and stuff recently, I really do like him and think he's talented,. But it is apparent that he feels a little (unjustly) left behind by his peers. As someone who was once in the mainstream arena it must be hard to see those he worked with have careers that have continued to grow, where as his ( for reasons I don't know or understand) has remained somewhat ..less so. He mentions it quite a lot, sometimes to the point where it is difficult and awkward to watch. It must have had an effect on his relationship with Stewart ( who in my opinion is THE best comic of my generation. However, watching him in the 90's is like watching a different act. He has developed his craft to become an absolutely amazing talent). Richard has used words like 'defeated' and said ( rather unconvincingly) to have 'accepted his fate' - it brings a sadness to him that I find sometimes distracts from what he is doing. I'm writing this after a late night out and perhaps haven't articulated what I mean very well. I want to make it clear that I am a fan of Richard's and try and see his stuff when I can - even the rather awkward clip with the maniac heckler in the audience who went moronic about one of Richard's joke. He shows his worth dealing with that prat. It's just every time I watch him and things go down the 'I'm not given the appreciation I deserve' route my heart sinks a little. The fact his You-tube clips get so many views and his pod casts are so successful shows he still has a massive fan base. I wish he would concentrate on that before this other thing envelopes his entire out-put.
Don't feel too bad for him, on the whole he seems pretty happy. The thing that worries me the most is the fact that, from this self deprecating run, I wonder which of his other jokes harbour in truths. A worrying thought indeed. I'm glad I don't know him in real life.
+elijah pink It's a role they both kinda play. They both pretend to hate each other. I'm not saying they don't annoy each other, they probably do, but there's almost a sibling love there.
But the whole point of it is that the inordinate amount of enjoyment Stewart achieves through begrudging and belittling Richard is more than enough enjoyment for both of them. BOOM BOOM! I think it would be unkind to begrudge Stewart that enjoyment.
I'd say it's likely he's just being his true self. The act would be a bit lame if he felt the need to patronise his mate with bullshit.
Nah, they're still good friends. #1 Richard explained at some point that they stopped working together because it wasn't right for either of them, they had a bit of a tiff at the time and their working relationship ended, with neither of them interested in doing anything new together. #2 They still see each other regularly, so I can imagine Richard likes to tease Stewart a lot about the kid thing etc. and it might be his jokes are more jarring on Stew, like it might be with any friend you've told something ad nauseum to. #3 Apparently Stewart was in a very bad mood before this show and it's seeping through. There's apparently an unedited bit where Stew has a go about Richard's agents and how shittily they treat him (Richard). Particularly on that last point, they're definitely still firm friends.
gimmie the short version boring
Killing it and merry Christmas sir.
My favourite part was the curious orange, I used to watch it every week but cant remember anything else due to being hungover when watching it.
There's no mention of the TMWRNJ sketch with the 80s alternative comedy nostalgia and self-agrandisement, but I notice the SDP mugs from that are on show here, presumably as a sort of self-aware gesture.
Can we have Richard Ayoade on the show please =)
Can we not? That's one vote each way, so he doesn't get to be on it.
Why not, he's on everything else.
i’d love to see him as long as he doesn’t do his whole awkward persona the whole time and lets himself go a little bit. might be better in 2021 without having to be in front of an audience
that? ha, only sheer bliss for lucky me.
trevor there to provide 'everyman' awe.
PLEASEEEEE release Richard Not Judy. I don't know why it was shelved but it will complete my DVD wall of all your stuff. I don't want to live in a world where Histor & Pliny can't be watched on a compact disc form, even if it's on compact discs older sibling LaserDisc, I'd be happy. Basically I want it on some sort of disc.
You know what you want.... the Moon on a stick!!!!
They did a limited disc based production run on a fried egg... Egg! Like a birds egg!
Rich, Stew, the two of you, so all four of you, you rock
Twenty years later and it's still burnt into my memory when the Small Faced Boy suddenly became the Small Faced Man. The guilt of Stewart Lee, there.
I can't think of an 'artist' who was so completely driven by how he is viewed by the general public that he made two series of a comedy about a disabled man in a nursing home because he got in trouble for saying mong.
Ricky Gervaise IS a total mongoloid himself. He IS funny, but not for any of the reasons he thinks he is. And he's fat.
bit like brent
The only one I can think of played a mong, not a "disabled person".
@@michaelhall5429 So edgy. So brave.
@@tcritt good lord your bar must be low if you assume that was an attempt at edgy humour in the UA-cam comments.
They're like Morecombe & Wise on drugs.
best laugh in ages locked in a car outside a pub [can of pop and a of bag crisps ] ....been there
Next year is the TMWRNJ 25th anniversary, I wish they'd do a reunion special.
I am delighted the TMWRNJ DVD is dead.
***** I get it.
***** Listen to the other Stewart Lee RHLSTP.
***** You don't know what I mean.
Plain Glazed Smais you're like a mystery wizard.
"remember being left in a car outside a pub with a bag of crisps?" to be fair to my dad he also gave me a bottle of pop.
Lucky bastard
Stewart Lee is definitely an ironic genius of observational humour.
The TMWRNJ intro where they're dressed as Savile has been dropped into numerous compilations on UA-cam by people who think that such renderings or glancing references to Savile's perversions are proof that "they all knew".
I think there was a similar claim made about Baddiel and Skinner making a Saville joke on Fantasy Football.
That bloke who sits in the dark corner of the pub, has let himself go.
I have watched this several times and the nature of Rich and Stew's relationship remains a question to me. Presumably Stew wouldn't have come on RHLSTP twice if he hated Rich, but there's an element of cruelty in some of Stew's remarks that seems genuine (and that I haven't seen in other interviews that he's done). Hopefully I'm wrong.
Rich mentioned on the Dawn French RHLSTP that Stew was particularly off this time he was on but has confirmed that they don’t hate each other 😂
You're right
Rich and Stew have been jesting each other since the duo days, it's all part of the fun. Comedians take delight in roasting their buddies.
The joke about someone purportedly resembling Stewart Lee having let themselves go has let itself go.
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Stewart Lee is the sexiest man on the planet. Deadset. Then AND now.
I didn't know who Radko Mladic was until I started watching this. I then googled Radko Mladic and I thought wow Stewart Lee has let himself go
Its hard to comprehend how Stuart’s hair actually ended up like that
When they're talking about TMWRJ, I think R is implying the Ironic Review idea was stolen by Chris Morris for Nathan Barley. The actress he mentions from Ironic Review is Chris Morris' wife.
Funny you'd find a weird book at a junk shop. My second copy of the Fist of Fun annual came from a charity shop in a tub called "All things free".
They couldn't even sell it for 25p! lol
You reading this. Yeah you.
Drink your weak lemon drink.
*DO IT NOW!*
A friend of my mine was in the audience - apparently Stew went on at length about the quality of Rich's management and it became genuinely uncomfortable.
bassben04 what do you mean by 'Rich's management'?
+Luke Jeffrey Wilkinson
euphemism for his penis
+Lint fantastic answer!
+Luke Jeffrey Wilkinson Avalon, I assume
+bassben04 please explain???
Its been two weeks since I watched this and I'm still depressed that the TMWRNJ DVD isn't going to be available. Especially as I was too young to see it the first time round, and I treasure my Fist of Fun DVD.
Rich is TMWRNJ really never going to come out on DVD? That's really depressing. You clearly have the source material though, can we do a private deal for one copy? I'm prepared to pay and sign an NDA :-)
Way back in 79 I paid 10p at a charity fete to get Rod Hull and Emu autographs, Rod didn't bring Emu, we were told don't mention Emu as was Rod was the star, what a tosser.
Stewart Lee looks now like he should in Time Trumpet ( set in 2031). What happened to you Mr Stew.
Stew completely refusing to get into the bit about their kids marrying at the start is excruciating.
Poor Richard.
It’s all excruciating. You should see the bits we cut.
@@Herring1967#releasetheleecut
As a big tmwrnj fan, and a big stewart lee fan, this interview just made me sad and depressed. Having watched some of it a second time. In my opinion tmwrnj was a hilarious show, at the time as funny as any of stewart lees new stand up is now. And whether he likes it or not (he doesn't seem to) stewart lee was dead funny in it. I'm sorry the dvd isn't being released and hope it has nothing to do with the seemingly mean spirited stewart lee
I kind of know what you mean, but I think we need to take it with a grain of salt. I think Stew's usually critical of old stuff he's done, and he probably likes most of TMWRNJ but tends to nitpick the negative things he remembers. I don't think he means to insult Rich, TMWRNJ, or its fans. I wish we were getting the DVD too.
0mink0 Although I do kind of wonder about "the final ever performance of Lee & Herring on stage together".
If he is nitpicking the negative things, that does make me wonder why. I watched a different interview herring did with him 11 months ago and he was far less critical of it all, or rather he seemed to berate richard herring less and get on with him better. Perhaps he was just sick of having to do basically the same interview again 11 months later. But i suppose its none of my business really
its unfair to call it the same interview, but bits of it were the same
Professor Know-it-all as to stewart lee's meanness, i have to say i was at the recording of this and stewart lee was standing in the corner drinking while watching the paul putner and trevor lock. so maybe the meanness was just drunkenness