How The Most Hated Player in Rust Lost Everything

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
  • In uncovering the story of the most hated player in Rust, we look into the history behind one of Rust's most important characters and what led to his ultimate demise.
    This video is purely for entertainment purposes, I do not endorse any negativity towards any of the mentioned parties in the video.
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  • @KinnaevoL
    @KinnaevoL Рік тому +1971

    • @hungryrust_
      @hungryrust_ Рік тому +25

      #LLATM

    • @1ndium359
      @1ndium359 Рік тому +15

      #LLATM

    • @zprotz
      @zprotz Рік тому +160

      what a g. I'd cut off my left toe to be in ego back in the day.

    • @1ndium359
      @1ndium359 Рік тому +31

      @@zprotz lmao wut

    • @massimoyoquese1212
      @massimoyoquese1212 Рік тому +12

      I don't know what its meaning
      but everyone said that
      #LLATM

  • @harold8096
    @harold8096 Рік тому +2867

    the way people describe this guy sounds no different than a average rust player

    • @halmageandaniel
      @halmageandaniel Рік тому +142

      The average rust player does not perform DDOS attacks nor they sells cheats. Although i understand toxicity in Rust, cheating and DDOS are serious and they are unacceptable, period!

    • @muwyaya472
      @muwyaya472 Рік тому

      @@halmageandaniel yeah! so unacceptable!!! stfu

    • @vkyhros2552
      @vkyhros2552 Рік тому +223

      @@halmageandaniel yes they do

    • @beafboy01
      @beafboy01 Рік тому +174

      @@halmageandaniel The average rust enthusiast is an angry incel living with their parents tbf.

    • @bourbon2605
      @bourbon2605 Рік тому +13

      @@halmageandaniel You'd be surprised lol

  • @itsed5164
    @itsed5164 Рік тому +1099

    This is the first time I seen an actual documentary on a rust player. As toxic as he was, I think he came back pretty hard by doing things for the community.

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +93

      I believe he could be considered an Antihero for certain. Just such an interesting character to rise through the ranks like that.

    • @exitmygamekid3007
      @exitmygamekid3007 Рік тому +5

      Yeah gives me vibes of the guy that just made his way around Afghanistan with just cool shades and an outfit from a surplus.

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 Рік тому +17

      He was only toxic to those that were toxic towards him. Which I find fair.

    • @exitmygamekid3007
      @exitmygamekid3007 Рік тому +9

      @@geronimo5537 eye for an eye.. whole world blind... ya know.

    • @ethanquestionmark
      @ethanquestionmark Рік тому +1

      Completely agree affinity best server to touch rust and was the prime of main scene #ATM #LLATM

  • @theCragiestSloth
    @theCragiestSloth Рік тому +542

    If kinn wasnt a toxic manchild, i truly think his aproach to his server and community in constantly trying to get opinions on improvement and shit like that wouldve made him a goat in the rust community

    • @zetastein6031
      @zetastein6031 Рік тому +11

      and a guy i would've never heard of

    • @turkeyman631
      @turkeyman631 Рік тому +22

      @@zetastein6031which is fine rather be a positive force and be unknown rather than be a known man child pariah

    • @zetastein6031
      @zetastein6031 Рік тому

      @@turkeyman631 its a videogame you manchild

    • @TheVincenzoGaming
      @TheVincenzoGaming Рік тому +2

      @@turkeyman631 clearly not since everyone is swooning over the manchild in his comment replies and even this youtube himself did with pinning and hearting the comment

    • @phalanx5667
      @phalanx5667 Рік тому +3

      So he made a good server for the community and the rats couldn't take the competition so they went behind his back to report him to facepunch in true rat fashion all because he was mean. To be fair the only things he did wrong was the Doxxing, DDOSing and admin abuse but its very distasteful to get the server taken down especially when many players enjoyed it.

  • @peeled1
    @peeled1 Рік тому +735

    KiNN was a very good server owner, would constantly take suggestions and add new things that the community wanted, i had the most fun on rust on affinty.

  • @nylig8207
    @nylig8207 Рік тому +568

    as a person that got banned on vital for no reason (i told neeko he's legless) we need affinity back

    • @DrummerJacob
      @DrummerJacob Рік тому +55

      It's always for no reason

    • @marijnnn4992
      @marijnnn4992 Рік тому +26

      @@DrummerJacob getting banned for telling someone he is legless aint a good reason

    • @benevolent2077
      @benevolent2077 Рік тому

      @@DrummerJacob you are those square nerdy hipster loner loser

    • @KfcOwner
      @KfcOwner Рік тому +5

      ​@@DrummerJacob u ever been on the old days of cod cus callinf someone legless isnt hurting no ones feeling

    • @cooldud7071
      @cooldud7071 Рік тому +7

      @Codex it's always been like that, you just remember the more interesting ones

  • @method6803
    @method6803 Рік тому +693

    Played affinity once with a 30 man group. Group next to us was roof camping (was a no roof camping rule at the time) us from water treatment tower. We shot back at them and Kinn appeared after about an hour and walled in our entire base and stacked them 4 storeys high. After about a minute he deleted our entire base. Apparently the group we were fighting were friends with Kinn. Never played the server again after that. Good riddance

    • @boatexe8706
      @boatexe8706 Рік тому +34

      cap

    • @xojxstin
      @xojxstin Рік тому +8

      🤣😐

    • @abcdefgasdfg
      @abcdefgasdfg Рік тому +23

      Cap detected

    • @animebhopper
      @animebhopper Рік тому +69

      And then everyone stood up and clapped

    • @sollyxdoomyx7905
      @sollyxdoomyx7905 Рік тому

      I think i saw that while hiding behind a fucking rock .. and yea he did ... what a fucking loser tho .. good riddance indeed

  • @SpriteRUST
    @SpriteRUST Рік тому +244

    never really got into main scene rust but a group of my friends and i made a team for the initial launch of affinity servers and kinn flew around in vanish and talked to a lot of the groups. he asked questions on what he should add to the server and even flew our group to roams. he genuinely just seemed like a cool dude who just loved rust

    • @sageer2585
      @sageer2585 Рік тому +18

      I think you mean to say Kinn had nothing in his life aside from a video game addiction and a need for therapy

    • @prayrustYT
      @prayrustYT Рік тому +60

      @@sageer2585yes because you knew him personally

    • @SpriteRUST
      @SpriteRUST Рік тому +10

      @@sageer2585 i said what i said lil bro. just my own experience with kinn...

    • @BetterCallKahl
      @BetterCallKahl Рік тому +43

      ​@@sageer2585 if you make 20k-30k a month running multiple servers that means rust is his job and something he enjoyed. What else do you want in life besides being paid for what you like?

    • @JustADadsValorantAcademy
      @JustADadsValorantAcademy Рік тому +1

      @@BetterCallKahl its ok he seems to be in line with facepunch irrational and emotionally motivated.

  • @drequ4271
    @drequ4271 Рік тому +415

    as a rust player trough 3 years of playing affinity was the best and most "peacefull" server ive ever seen i have a lot of good memories and r.i.p to kinn and all staff members hope affinity somehow will show back

    • @gary6237
      @gary6237 Рік тому +26

      facepunch made me lose my job
      😥

    • @Dylan-en6bb
      @Dylan-en6bb Рік тому +17

      @@gary6237 gary you just flamed everyone what job

    • @gary6237
      @gary6237 Рік тому +36

      @@Dylan-en6bb yeah it was hard work

    • @imagination8061
      @imagination8061 Рік тому +2

      legacy main was affinity thats why neeko snitched to facepunch and got legacy blacklisted

    • @drequ4271
      @drequ4271 Рік тому +1

      @@imagination8061 yeah neekos ass started burning and he snitched with rusty moose admins

  • @galonk_zx6r
    @galonk_zx6r Рік тому +65

    Insanely well produced video, glad to see you're keeping up the documentaries

  • @pou2111
    @pou2111 Рік тому +30

    PLEASE make more documentaries dude i just remembered my time in ib and was going insane holy shit this was awesome

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +1

      Yeah IB was a great clan man, love these video types talking about stuff we actually got to experience in the community, regardless of the video performance it will be cool to look back on this 10 years down the line, and be like yeah I remember that Rust stuff. It was fun, haha.

    • @lanthanumlanthanium6373
      @lanthanumlanthanium6373 Рік тому +2

      @@JackShephardTV Is your name is relation to Half Life Opposing Force?

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +2

      @@lanthanumlanthanium6373 The name is in inspiration to the show LOST, which is my favorite show of all time. When I started playing Rust in 2016, I was watching the show and fell very in love with the characters specifically Jack who I related too, then I realized I was playing a game about being on an island alone, building hotels at the time trying to bring people together like Jack from LOST. That is how the name came to be, happily using it almost 7 years later. :)

  • @Sir-Bane
    @Sir-Bane Рік тому +32

    Affinity was an absolutely amazing server and I do have to honestly say Kinn for the "most" part of at least being a server owner/runner, was great.
    But his attitude and all the other bits he's done completely condem him and still to this day he hasn't grown out of the childish personality and angry lash outs.
    I don't think FP did the best thing completely blacklisting his server, but I agree Kinn needed to basically be smacked down to reality in the end.

    • @zir456
      @zir456 Рік тому

      I don't this is 'smacked down to reality'

  • @deathytv3119
    @deathytv3119 Рік тому +24

    Such a great time back in the day. Miss you Jack, keep making great vids.

  • @rodi0404
    @rodi0404 Рік тому +4

    As a rust clan owner that used to be big on affinity fridays ive talked to kinn a lot of times for several reasons and this was all before the whole blacklisting thing and i could really sense his change in mood after the blacklisting he started to develop a drinking problem after the blacklist but got it back together. Just wanted to put that out there hes a very nice guy in a 1 on 1 call but imagine what it does to someone when you do repetitive annoying work with little kids on the most toxic game on the planet and you are trying to have a professional server.

  • @johnhawks2305
    @johnhawks2305 Рік тому +7

    I was still new to rust, and had a large clan living beside me, who helped show me the ropes and gave me my first weapon ever, a python. They eventually ended up getting raided and I ran over on repeat trying to stop them. The clan raiding them had around 5-6 players, my neighbors were 3, we couldn't defend. The big clan raided me next as punishment I guess, didn't really get anything. When I came back with rock watching them blow in they didn't kill me they just let me know you can't get in the way of a raid. I just watched as my jank base was blown into. They saw I really didn't have much, nor did I know how to build a proper base. They protected me and told me to reseal it, and that they don't wanna ruin the game for me so early on. The rust community is a strange one. I love it, I don't understand all the technical rules yet but I think people are willing to work with you if you're just patient and kind. After talking the clan gave me a few weapons, and I helped my neighboring clan rebuild. We all became semi friends until the end of the wipe 4 days later. I never got their discord and haven't played rust since. It's emotional and I'm not sure why.

    • @gravity00x
      @gravity00x 4 місяці тому

      fairy tales. anyone thats ever played rust knows that the truth is not what u describe. clans will actively seek out soloplayers and take what they want without sparing u a dime.

    • @BraydenBomb2006
      @BraydenBomb2006 4 місяці тому

      @@gravity00xokay buddy retard 😂😂

  • @laurapills
    @laurapills Рік тому +34

    comparing doxxing and ddossing to cheating in a video game is CRAZY

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +6

      Yeah, that was my bad. I'm usually pretty slick on the scripts, but I think the way I explained that wasn't very good. Since I'm getting more viewership with these videos, I'm learning a lot & getting feedback from more people before release. Appreciate the feedback man and you can expect better in the future.

  • @r--_
    @r--_ Рік тому +2

    watched this all the way through and still didn't even notice this was from a youtuber with under 1000 subscribers instead of a big youtuber, great job bro

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +1

      Means a hell of a lot man, really put in effort to entertain you guys. Glad you liked it!

  • @macademia_p7853
    @macademia_p7853 Рік тому +3

    Kinn was like "You got yourself a villain, just because you want one" type of guy, you guys will never knew about him, until u meet him directly.

  • @Rocky-ry4lx
    @Rocky-ry4lx Рік тому +3

    I haven't touched games in years, although I recall playing in the same server as DOT, ZZZ, 5K, Ich Bin and a few notable others. My clan "tL" (Formerly OYL), got the rest of the main clans on the server to agree to a strict rule of only having 8-man roams, this lasted for months and was a generally respected rule... except for DOT. They were the only group that could not respect every other clan's agreements, my only memories of DOT are of negativity and immaturity.
    I just stumbled upon this video and it reminded me of all those times playing Rust. Don't know if anyone will see this, hopefully, everyone I played with and against over the years has grown to live fulfilling lives, I only wish the best for y'all.
    My name was ricky, founder of tL.
    P.S. If anyone recalls TC Wars, I started that, but unfortunately, I was immature at the time and burned some bridges, and Navyblue (I think that was his name?) took over. Is TC Wars still a thing anymore? I believe Jack Shepard was there at the beginning as well, we had some calls. Anyways, it was fun, I have touched video games in a while just nice to reminisce, and would be cool if anyone in this comment section recognized me haha! Cheers!

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Hey Rocky! I do remember you. Feel free to hit me up at Jack Shephard#0001 , I just spoke to Proxy the other day. We're actually do a documentary and high school reunion per say with the entire clan scene would love to have you come reconnect with us.

  • @Smuffy
    @Smuffy Рік тому +4

    This is insane quality keep up the work!

  • @jordanbouchelle3419
    @jordanbouchelle3419 Рік тому +3

    As someone who lived through all of this I am so happy that you made this. ~Yoster

  • @BIGSHARG
    @BIGSHARG Рік тому +1

    amazing vid as a kinda new (currently in hiatus clan member) in vital never knew this story. keep up the great story focused videos

  • @Ionizedwater1
    @Ionizedwater1 Рік тому +2

    As someone who use to be in .dot I can tell you without a doubt in my mind that Kinn was not playing a character lol. He, like many of us, got way too attached to the game and when his ego gets hurt he gets salty.

  • @idrivehoopties
    @idrivehoopties Рік тому +11

    so cool to find a channel without a bunch of subs that’s still uploading. great content man, excited to see you grow

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +2

      Appreciate you man! Really enjoy entertaining you guys, try my absolute best with this style of content.

  • @NanoScream
    @NanoScream Рік тому +21

    As someone who isn't in the Rust scene I have no bias for or against any of these parties, Facepunch overstepped their boundaries by shutting down Kinn's own server. It's one thing if this behavior was on the official servers but it's not and Facepunch is definitely in the wrong.

  • @Jaxenwithfriends
    @Jaxenwithfriends Рік тому +3

    Bro I watched and Played rust for about 6 Years now and I'v never heard of this dude

  • @izduckii8143
    @izduckii8143 Рік тому +5

    He wasn’t the villain we wanted but it was the villain we needed

  • @volleddie
    @volleddie Рік тому

    Bro your videos are top tier, keep up to the amazing work!

  • @imagination8061
    @imagination8061 Рік тому +12

    Affinity staff also brought out the old recoil server Legacy main, when neeko found out he straight away snitched to facepunch as he saw all the old clans were coming back to play and alot of current vital groups werent playing because of it

    • @SuperiorCaptainn
      @SuperiorCaptainn Рік тому

      and that's why i'll never play vital again, xD fucking snitch lol

    • @zir456
      @zir456 Рік тому

      Well, He is facepunch's pet so nothing wrong snitching

    • @alvin825
      @alvin825 Рік тому

      that wasn't affinity staff

    • @imagination8061
      @imagination8061 Рік тому

      it was@@alvin825

  • @dantesucks
    @dantesucks Рік тому +293

    As immature as Kinn was, he brought good things to the main scene of Rust. Though he did bring good things, it does not out weigh his childish, and malicious behavior.

    • @keuwlcat1319
      @keuwlcat1319 Рік тому

      idk man that cancer thing was kinda glossed over like a alaskan hooker during christmas

    • @zbelair7218
      @zbelair7218 Рік тому +17

      You're playing Rust, dude, if you are offended or upset by any part of the game, you're too soft for it. Kinn did nothing but play the game the way the community has decided its meant to be played.

    • @skilletbakes420
      @skilletbakes420 Рік тому

      ​@@zbelair7218 are u serious? The ddosing , the cheating, the plans to sabotage other servers and give people cheats to ruin others experiences etc... Just childish distributive and deserves to be permanently off rust just for that. No matter how toxic you are its a bitch move to cheat and ruin others experiences

    • @keuwlcat1319
      @keuwlcat1319 Рік тому +3

      @@zbelair7218 what about the other community if were going by the same logic? i just say be a shitter its not the game that made u a shitter :P

    • @epicpeegaming2438
      @epicpeegaming2438 Рік тому +34

      @@zbelair7218 💀 okay buddy stop the meatriding. Did we not watch the same video? Kinn was constantly offended and upset at rust and even fucking ddosed servers and doxxed people’s personal information 💀💀💀

  • @andrius4210
    @andrius4210 Рік тому +13

    No matter how you put it, Kinn always had represented the average rust clan member, while others may not act or do things Kinn did, that does not mean they have no intentions to do so and most put up an act to seem better.

  • @Alphaseries
    @Alphaseries Рік тому +1

    Bro is the embodiment of the nerd emoji holy

  • @ManiacRacing
    @ManiacRacing 4 місяці тому +2

    Heres a tip: Being good at anything does NOT give you the right to be an asshole. It's really very simple.

  • @blueduck5695
    @blueduck5695 Рік тому +4

    I remember when I was trying to be an admin for rusticated servers that I might have to run into some people like kinn. Those admins seemed to have known this stuff pretty well as I believe he was permanently banned on those servers on top of the current list.

  • @LuminRust
    @LuminRust Рік тому +3

    Very well editied and visual clips.

  • @gooz7984
    @gooz7984 Рік тому +1

    well made video nice to see the old main scene get some attention

  • @Wisok001
    @Wisok001 Рік тому +5

    hes got the mindset of a grinder and i respect that

  • @3yAzure
    @3yAzure Рік тому +1

    holy shit jack is still alive and dropping content

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Haha good to see you man. It seems like yesterday we were trolling discord calls. Always loved your graphics for the interview streams. Hope you've been well, feel free to join discord if you ever want to catch up.

  • @illumiweb3
    @illumiweb3 Рік тому +106

    As a past Affinity staff member, I feel KiNN always had a good heart despite his actions.

    • @cornbread4297
      @cornbread4297 Рік тому +23

      Tf does this mean dude he’s obviously not a kind hearted person if this is how he is acting

    • @kgregorius8550
      @kgregorius8550 Рік тому +5

      @@cornbread4297 Nothing is wrong with anyone behavior on the internet as along as it does not hurt you in IRL mate, that why you should take rule 1 of the internet as something to follow. That being said only thing I don't like he did is DDOS attacks, Doxing and selling of cheats and approving of cheats.

    • @OGGETROLLED
      @OGGETROLLED Рік тому

      Lol

    • @haden67832
      @haden67832 Рік тому +11

      Bro we all know both you and him were throwing slurs, ddosing and other bad things for rust. Stay banned

    • @kgregorius8550
      @kgregorius8550 Рік тому

      @@haden67832 slurs yes, ddosing and getting banned never happen with me. Learn to grow the fuck up on the internet mate rule 1 is there for a reason if it was IRL then the slure would be a problem but its not also I don't agree with ddosing and hacking.

  • @ajudeme
    @ajudeme Рік тому +5

    I remember when all of this happened, was a glorious time.

  • @YaXYT
    @YaXYT Рік тому +16

    One of the Rust server owners who helped me get to know the Rust community as a designer was KiNN. ♥

    • @KinnaevoL
      @KinnaevoL Рік тому +1

      Hope you're doing well, Yax

    • @YaXYT
      @YaXYT Рік тому

      @@KinnaevoL

  • @RizzRust
    @RizzRust Рік тому +3

    Affinity was the move

  • @KairuExplores
    @KairuExplores Рік тому

    only 6k subs!? that is criminal you need way more attention quality content mate keep it up

  • @bulbazoth6473
    @bulbazoth6473 Рік тому +4

    iv always felt bad for kids who think Rust is a competitive game

  • @TheMoistTowel
    @TheMoistTowel Рік тому

    It’s always the runescape music that lets me know the documentary is about to be fire

  • @mikey7614
    @mikey7614 Рік тому +37

    playing with this guy 4 years ago was fun sad to see him go

  • @zes5610
    @zes5610 Рік тому +2

    The guy really lost it, i remember the podcast when he completely just lost his marbles and declared he was selling cheats. Good/bad times

  • @glitchygoose
    @glitchygoose Рік тому +9

    Rust players supporting a manchild is really not surprising at all

  • @x3woots
    @x3woots Рік тому +1

    "21-23 year old yet act like a 9 year old"
    Thats everyone in rust

  • @woke5367
    @woke5367 Рік тому +92

    This video brought back so many good and bad memories, Throughtout my time playing affinity since it was basically released, I feel as he did the best to strive to make his server more enjoyable and perform better and yes this vid did sum up the bad things and good things and I feel as you either got to hate him or love him but he provided a fun environment to play on even if it did get bad sometimes.

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому +9

      I feel that facepunch went beyond just moderating here though. I understand that kinn was an objectively bad person during his player days, but when he became a server owner he wasn't doing anything wrong at that point.
      It feels like facepunch let a personal vendetta lead them to cracking down on their own community.
      Why should a facepunch employee get to tell a server owner random grenade throwing is wrong?
      It seems like corporate tyranny at that point, just let people have fun.
      I support him getting banned on other servers for being toxic, but ruining his server that didn't do anything and was legitimately nice to the community is just evil.

    • @bizkurt99
      @bizkurt99 Рік тому +2

      ​@@resentfuldragon i agree with you

  • @Pixelated_Sleepy
    @Pixelated_Sleepy Рік тому

    Gotta love these videos about someone I've never heard of, because I know my expectations are low to begin with

  • @linuxguy1199
    @linuxguy1199 Рік тому +111

    Honestly, Kinn was a real piece of shit - but it doesn't seem right that FP blacklisted his server permanently (by blocking the IP), if people want to play on a piece of shit server with him it's their choice since they bought the game. This would be like if Minecraft permanently blocked 2B2T (which has had FAR worse controversies, involving real crime that has resulted in people going to prison). Frankly, seems like FP just got butthurt that Kinn defied them and wanted to make an example, blocking him from the server list was understandable as a server like that would negatively affect FP's reputation, but the permanent IP blacklist is just overkill and stupid. If FP wouldn't have done that Kinn would've kept playing, slowly got bored and probably not caused any serious problems to anyone, now they created someone who has a vendetta, and someone with a vendetta can very quickly become dangerous and unstoppable.
    10/10 great video, would watch again!

    • @linuxguy1199
      @linuxguy1199 Рік тому +9

      Something I want to add to this, FP would rather add an extra DNS lookup and list check (slowing all of us down when we join a server) to ban a rust server that offended them then optimize their game (something the rust community has desperately needed for years)

    • @RevRust
      @RevRust Рік тому +2

      You think fp care that much tho? Half the tweets their dev team makes on Twitter make fun of the community or are just pisstake tweets 💀

    • @linuxguy1199
      @linuxguy1199 Рік тому +9

      @@RevRust They cared enough to add code specifically to blacklist him, which takes time and a marginal amount of effort.

    • @loganshoultes4445
      @loganshoultes4445 Рік тому +5

      I feel like it would have been better personally to keep all these people on this server instead of spilling out into the rest of the game.

    • @Ali-sf7kc
      @Ali-sf7kc Рік тому +1

      I don't know Kinn guy but I hope he gets what he deserves. You're supposed to be free on internet, no one is getting harmed and just because he trashtalks you're shutting his servers down? That's some soyboy shit.

  • @Kas6n
    @Kas6n Рік тому

    i love your SunnyV2 style content keep it up.

  • @vandalm9311
    @vandalm9311 Рік тому +16

    I think this shows how humans actually are. There are no absolutes as in someone who is 100% a good person or the opposite. We're just a person with many facets to our traits.
    Looks like Kinn can show compassion and willingness to help the community, but you cannot deny that his toxic, ddos, doxing actions can't really be justified either

    • @IamSpacedad
      @IamSpacedad Рік тому +4

      Pretty much every person who is a 'bad guy' has times when they are nice. That actually makes them all the more dangerous, since they can fly into harmful abusive behavior at people who don't expect it, or they can use their 'good side' to manipulate people. There's no excuse at all for what he did. Good riddance.

    • @carlwinslo
      @carlwinslo Рік тому +3

      @@IamSpacedad yea im sick of all these toxic assholes being given lead way on being a awful just because they sprinkle in some good deeds here and there. Its textbook manipulation. They dont show any mercy to whoever they are doxxing or ddos'ing for whatever manchild reason they have so no mercy should be given to them.

  • @yung6taco
    @yung6taco Рік тому

    Dude your content is unmatched I loved this game when I downloaded it in 2019 love hearing the history behind it

  • @UnknownInstict
    @UnknownInstict Рік тому +42

    I'm sorry if mojang allowed 2b2t to still exist there's no need for face punch to ban his server

    • @resentfuldragon
      @resentfuldragon Рік тому +8

      Exactly!
      I understand kinn getting banned from other servers, they don't want toxicity.
      Banning kinn's community from their own servers was too far, it is just bullying at that point and their server was quarantining the toxic people to their server anyway.
      It was a legit turnaround for a toxic player and they decided to ruin it.

    • @z.t.8224
      @z.t.8224 Рік тому +14

      2bt2s owner never actively threatened DDOS attacks on other people

    • @citizensnips3850
      @citizensnips3850 Рік тому +5

      @Resentfuldragon don't ddos people / dox people and maybe you won't get specifically targeted for blacklist?

    • @elobiretv
      @elobiretv Рік тому +1

      What has 2b2t ever done that would have gotten them banned?

  • @kexchokladd884
    @kexchokladd884 Рік тому +1

    He is basically the average rust clan player, huge ego and the maturity of a 9 year old…

  • @etch_it
    @etch_it Рік тому +77

    Long live Affinity, FP was so wrong in blacklisting the server. As much as people hate him, Kinn changed the main scene, the community, and lots of other things. He'll never admit it again, but to have the game you've played for so long, loved, and probably grew up on, blow up in his face like it did, has gotta hurt. As fucked up in the head as Kinn might be from rust, dude is human.

    • @imdrift170
      @imdrift170 Рік тому

      @@KinnaevoLu have a lot of new support it looks like

    • @MEanPenguin908
      @MEanPenguin908 Рік тому +12

      you kinn kids show him more empathy than he ever showed anyone else. Maybe he will learn from this and go to a new game as a better person, but he just appears to be a narcissist...

    • @etch_it
      @etch_it Рік тому

      👍

    • @etch_it
      @etch_it Рік тому

      @@imdrift170 im not new support 😂

    • @KinnaevoL
      @KinnaevoL Рік тому +2

      @MEanPenguin908 one thing I actually am is empathetic lol

  • @MyWifeCouldLearnaThingOrTwo

    I always look forward to your videos, because they are interesting and keep me up to speed with gaming and the endings of your videos with the Zelda theme always makes me feel nostalgic

  • @calloused8758
    @calloused8758 Рік тому +14

    kinn was one of the most genuine server owners, the reason he got so angry is because he actually CARED about his servers and the people playing them, EVERY OTHER SERVER only cares about the money, kinn genuinely cared about the game and his community

    • @KinnaevoL
      @KinnaevoL Рік тому +1

      Hope you're doing well Calloused :)

  • @thedesertmann
    @thedesertmann Рік тому

    never thought i’d see a rust video essay

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      I know right! Im surprised nobody else gave it a go.

  • @julianrogers8608
    @julianrogers8608 Рік тому +9

    i cant help but admire his motivation he gets shit done fp to him

  • @aarone4336
    @aarone4336 Рік тому +1

    not letting people connect via IP on a hidden server is a bit much at that point its really no ones business

  • @FancyOrb
    @FancyOrb Рік тому +16

    was Kinn just misunderstood?

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +9

      Hey Fancy,
      Hope you enjoyed the video. In my opinion of actually knowing KiNN over 6 years, I think he had good intentions but a bad temperament. Meaning the negative behaviours he had when he was in his earlier years in Rust, to when he ran a server never changed. Which is why he ultimately got in trouble at the end, if he wasn't in a position of power, I think he would still be playing Rust to this day, since a lot of people act like KiNN in Rust if not worst.
      Also the progression of cancel culture has become a lot more prominent over 2020's then it was in the 2010's.

    • @baconrastas
      @baconrastas Рік тому

      ​@codex5080Jesus Christ, is your entire life goal to rant? That rant you just went on literally showed that cancel culture is a lot more prominent now... you're clearly a part of it.

    • @41N53L
      @41N53L Рік тому

      ​​@codex5080our wall of text reminds me of that meme "not reading that but happy for you/sorry to hear that tho"

  • @Cooper.Z33
    @Cooper.Z33 Рік тому +2

    most servers like affinity now use all of the clan "activities" he created. he was the stereotype rust clan leader that made a plethora of mistakes that built up.

  • @boomkruncher325zzshred5
    @boomkruncher325zzshred5 Рік тому +2

    Ehhh, I don’t care about this guy, never heard of him before, but for some reason my brain rambled through the thoughts below, hope it’s at least interesting:
    Griefing and being toxic in Rust is just part of the game… AS LONG AS IT STAYS IN GAME. The moment it involves cheats, threats, harassment outside of the game and worse, it’s no longer a game. And when it’s no longer a game, it’s no longer fun.
    Cheats are stuff outside the game you use for an unfair advantage in the game, so that falls under “crossing the line” as I described above. If Facepunch built in cheats into their game that would be one thing, but they don’t, so cheats are not a part of Rust and do not make the game fun if someone uses them.
    If Kinn had kept his toxic arse ONLY to in-game toxicity, he’d still be around and having fun, and Affinity wouldn’t have been taken down. Kinn shot himself in the foot for having his IRL toxicity get in the way of the good things he did and could have done for the community. By bringing outside drama into Rust, it was no longer fun, and when he got shut down for ruining the game for everyone and having Affinity his legacy similarly ruined, he just kept on raging and spewing toxic hatred.
    Having no filter isn’t a problem, as long as everyone expects there to be no filter. In a game space, you can set up rules like that, so only people looking for that experience can get it. If special snowflakes who can’t handle toxicity stumble into Affinity, for example, they only have themselves to blame for being upset at the toxicity on the server… AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T BLEED OVER INTO IRL SHITE. The moment that line is crossed into IRL, it’s no longer a game, and shit gets real.

  • @AbbeyStrawberryJam
    @AbbeyStrawberryJam Рік тому

    Love the RuneScape music in the background in the beginning

  • @Durping1001
    @Durping1001 Рік тому +11

    kinn was super immature at the beginning but you could see significant improvement over the years and when he owned his own rust server most of the (concerning) toxic behavior was gone, he did great things for the rust scene and his servers shouldnt have been banned

  • @Marduk-np5gq
    @Marduk-np5gq Рік тому +1

    HOW IN TARNATION IS THIS SO SMALL
    i was watching this thinking its some kinda 500k rust yt documenter but NAH ITS JS SOME GUY MAKING GOLD CONTENT
    goodluck in yo endeavors, kinda content from someone like blooprint ngl

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate you man! Glad you enjoyed it. Love entertaining you guys.

  • @doritospimp7378
    @doritospimp7378 Рік тому +2

    Seeing this video and other drama happening in Facepunch's games I am now noticing that Facepunch is starting to ramp up moderation in most of their games, Rust with blacklisting a whole server, and Gmod banning 1942 rp. Now seeing this isn't nessarily bad but it isn't good either. 1942 rp wasn't good at all and the servers weren't fun either along with the community being terrible, but seeing Affinity go and seeing both sides it's hard to really say if this was a good outcome for anyone. On one side KiNN was a good server owner and did things for his players and let them be free to do anything without someone filtering everything even doing things for the community too, on the other side he did some not so great things which is completely understandable such as doxxing or cheating. Facepunch is trying their best to make sure that their games are more appealing to newer players which is something I agree but also disagree with. And if they continue to ramp up their moderation efforts to be more outreaching this might end in filters being on everything and Facepunch will find themselves bowing down to a minority of people calling to ban people who disagree on their views. Just like Nexus going from freedom on their modding platform to banning people for going against Political correctness.

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +1

      That's crazy they banned 1942 RP for GMOD, that was very fun I used to play that when I was very young 2014-2015. Didn't realize they had done that.
      Yeah I do agree, that's the big debate for our generation with the moderation of free speech, how much is too hateful or how little is infringement of rights. I think there's a fine balance. If you go too far PC there's push back, if your not PC enough there's push back. It's very stupid for any company to annoy half their player base or demographic in most cases, so everyone walks a fine line. Curious to see how this plays out. Great insights, thank you for contributing!

    • @doritospimp7378
      @doritospimp7378 Рік тому

      @Codex Every player base does die out eventually, I know that, but I never said that I liked the toxicity in Rust, I played Rust myself back in 2016, I experienced the community in it's fullest and saw all the "salty Rust players" videos, I do not endorse the toxicity and I don't like the community being toxic and don't want it to stay toxic. What I was trying to say was I am conflicted on the moderation of Rust and Gmod, and the rise of this moderation, I don't want these two games that I love to go PC but I don't want it to be the toxic cesspool that it was, and as you see it is improving over time. But I never said that the community should stay toxic. I'm sorry if you misunderstood anything.

  • @bewny41
    @bewny41 Рік тому

    this was crazy holy you deserver more man

  • @zurkooo6852
    @zurkooo6852 Рік тому +2

    kinn was a genius. He gained power through what some may say was evil but he turned his anger and hatred into passion and glory and was the most memorable server owner the game has ever seen.

    • @m955-q7z
      @m955-q7z Рік тому

      Your acting like he’s some mastermind who carefully schemed this when he’s actually just a asshole over his head with a massive ego who acts half his age

  • @niceguy7171
    @niceguy7171 Рік тому +2

    No examples of the drama? Was curious to know what.

  • @BobTheScene
    @BobTheScene Рік тому +9

    Kinn Is The Best Server Owner Out Of Neeko And Louis

    • @woke5367
      @woke5367 Рік тому +1

      Kinn was W server owner only fun clan server

  • @icarus2688
    @icarus2688 Рік тому

    2015 player, didnt know much about main scene though back then, good story telling

  • @vins1769
    @vins1769 Рік тому +12

    toxic personality does not equal to no good heart or bad leadership, there's no all bad or all good, they right about kinn's toxic behavior, the actions fp took is to protect game enviorment which is right, if affinity shut doors and form a closed up community and do right things with beef there's no way they aren't on top rn.

  • @Amir_Improves
    @Amir_Improves Рік тому

    You deserve more subs this is frost and fancy orb quality video. This reminds me of FitMc 2b2t but of rust :)

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Glad you like it, I didn't realize it at the time but I'm definitely going in that direction, it's nice to give these stories justice.

  • @EbonMaster
    @EbonMaster Рік тому +5

    "Was he a bad guy?"
    Yes. His response to being told that he's not wanted was to lash out and try to destroy the game for other people. If everything described in this video is accurate, he's actually pretty awful. Even if he considers the things he was doing an "act" that still shows that he's willing to do awful things to people for the sake of entertaining his personal group.

    • @therooster1339
      @therooster1339 Рік тому

      Ma'am calm down, it's just a game

    • @EbonMaster
      @EbonMaster Рік тому

      ​@@therooster1339 being an asshole in a game is still being an asshole.

  • @master-oy2sf
    @master-oy2sf Рік тому

    Your so underrated your quality is amazing

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +1

      Means a hell of a lot man! Thanks for your support. Love telling these stories and entertaining you guys with my Rust knowledge.

  • @jayband3M
    @jayband3M Рік тому +3

    kinn was a legend

  • @munchypignati8701
    @munchypignati8701 Рік тому

    Great script. Great storytelling. If I nothing about Rust this would still be entertaining. Conclusion was a bit lacking in my opinion but overall great video.

  • @issamelarmi
    @issamelarmi Рік тому +5

    If only Kinn chilled the f out once he got the servers running and kept his admins in check...
    You can't expect a game dev to let toxicity and profanities running rampant, it's bad for business...

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому +3

      Yeah a lot of people tried to help him out, but he really dropped the ball on that.

  • @YETISpaghetto
    @YETISpaghetto Рік тому

    i love watching videos like this when ive never ever heard of anyone mentioned in them

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Glad you liked it thought we had to tell his story.

  • @aiv4873
    @aiv4873 Рік тому +5

    I'm sure his toxicity and playstyle were something Facepunch didnt like but you cant ban someone and their community for just playing thebway they want to. And they were on their own server. Punishment was a bit too harsh.

    • @JBlazingit
      @JBlazingit Рік тому

      Clearly it’s something they can do because they did it. Lol I think it was completely warranted. I’m happy to see a developer try to curve the worst part of the community.

  • @1300l
    @1300l Рік тому +1

    The way he rage screams on "ill sell cheats" show how childish he is.

  • @srspro7161
    @srspro7161 Рік тому +11

    Bro kinn seems like the rustiest rust player ever. He’s the king

  • @i_are_spade519
    @i_are_spade519 Рік тому +1

    From dealing with some of his former staff and hearing stories from behind the scenes that havent even made it into this video, you only really scratched the surface, kinn had such a blurred reality of what was going on in the clan scene, thinking everything and everyone was out to get him, the truth is the clan scene is just a fucking cesspool of some of the worst gaming has ever had to offer and kinn was the spearhead for it.

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Yeah I do agree, I tried to leave it up to the viewer to make an opinion. There's a lot of claims out there and the last thing I wanted to do was to make accusations, if I couldn't justify them with evidence. Great insight though!

    • @i_are_spade519
      @i_are_spade519 Рік тому

      @@JackShephardTV Was a very well made video and i do applaud

    • @secretarybailey770
      @secretarybailey770 Рік тому

      Finally a comment that makes sense - the clan scene has always been a gutter of unbridled toxicity dominated by prepubescent teens and now they're upset because they can't be massive pieces of shit without no repercussions. As for the last question, the dude is objectively a bad guy, there's no two ways of looking at it, he's a man child that got way too much power

    • @nixxion4428
      @nixxion4428 Рік тому

      Sad but true

  • @gamesmithonline4133
    @gamesmithonline4133 Рік тому +6

    was a good video. loved how melow it was. but persnaly from me who was on the receaving end of kinn i never ever have and will see him as postive. he was a terable person who acted like a kid in a mans body. good to see him go and the comunity of rust becoming some what more postive instead of filled with toxic lumps of shit. part of the reason why fokes say the game is starting to die. cant wait to see any next videos.

    • @xulo.
      @xulo. Рік тому

      I’m assuming Louis doesn’t require basic knowledge of grammar and spelling to be hired after reading how braindead you type

    • @gamesmithonline4133
      @gamesmithonline4133 Рік тому

      @@xulo. No just some maturity, don’t think you would do so well.

    • @Dylan-en6bb
      @Dylan-en6bb Рік тому

      Bro what is up with the spelling lmao
      You weren't on the recieving end of anything you made skins for atlas, no? Kind of weird to say you were on the receiving end of it.

    • @xulo.
      @xulo. Рік тому

      @@gamesmithonline4133 you’ve made the absolute worst skins I’ve ever laid my eyes on. A toddler can do better, your job doesn’t require maturity.

  • @hypotheticalsinglewoody
    @hypotheticalsinglewoody Рік тому

    “The keemstar of rust” impressive considering every rust player is Keemstar.

  • @ryan80166
    @ryan80166 Рік тому +4

    Pretty cringe they blacklisted his server, but it’s even more cringe to “gather evidence” to whine to the developer. Just don’t play on his server like what’s the issue lmao

  • @raoulduke226
    @raoulduke226 Рік тому

    Bro that runescape music took me ALL the way back wtf

  • @flynn8326
    @flynn8326 Рік тому +3

    I think he was truly a good person but had some very bad anger issues that he should get checked out

  • @HempthePerkaholic
    @HempthePerkaholic Рік тому

    AFFINITY was peak rust, the comp and moments were amazing

  • @YoGho5t
    @YoGho5t Рік тому +3

    Kinn didnt do the greatest things in the first part of his career but then managed to pay it back and then got attacked i personally believe he is innocent and should be unbanned and forgiven

  • @devinite
    @devinite Рік тому +1

    Bad people can still be friends with people, doesn't make them less bad.

  • @FAUNTER
    @FAUNTER Рік тому +4

    free kinn!!!!!!!!

  • @Matorikan
    @Matorikan Рік тому

    underrated fr great content.

  • @jayandremcmurtry7331
    @jayandremcmurtry7331 Рік тому +4

    Y’all out here defending him and his servers like he didn’t literally dox people, cheat, and ddos servers 😭

  • @senjifps
    @senjifps Рік тому

    Great video jack, I haven’t check your sub count yet, judging by the fresh comments I’m guessing you’re around 2,000 but should be at 120,000+ (you will be)

    • @senjifps
      @senjifps Рік тому

      Damn I was close

    • @JackShephardTV
      @JackShephardTV  Рік тому

      Haha, thanks man. It would be one of the greatest achievements, craved doing this for years.

  • @GregoryShtevensh
    @GregoryShtevensh Рік тому +3

    His toxic nature negated what good he did