It's always "America this, America that" and sometimes Brittain gets a shoutout, and it's nice to see some other equipment for once. especially as a german, I'm really impressed by what a formidable force France can field on such a tight budget. mad respect
@@swann67000 i mean, you guys have a functioning expeditionary force, an indigenous nuclear weapons program, anuclear subs and a nuclear carrier, and a strong fighter industry. and all that with a budget smaller than Germany's. We had to pull out of Afghanistan because we can't keep our own forces supplied. I think you guys are doing rather good with what you've got
I agree. As I commented just a bit before, this is why allies matter. As a US Navy veteran I recognize technologies here pioneered by us and the Brits, but some I think are unique to this vessel that all of us can benefit from. The USA's best motorized artillery weapon is licensed from Norway. I can't think of an example off hand, but I'll bet our military has benefited a lot from Germany too.
Not forgetting that on military level, France is the only European country largely independent of its allies in terms of military equipment and its equipment is quite remarkable. As we say at home, Nécessité fait loi. A tight military budget which led to a pragmatic policy of building multirole equipment, see the Rafale. We learned the lessons of WWII. Si vis pacem para bellum.
@@swann67000 First of all I specify that I am French too. You compare incomparable things, the USA is a little less than 15 times larger than France with a population 5 to 6 times larger, a MUCH larger economy than France. It is sure compared to the USA, France has a rather mediocre army. Only compared to many countries the majority of our military industry is "autonomous" and our technology is "equal" to that of the USA. I take the Rafale as an example, it is equivalent to the American F-22, moreover the Americans no longer show the F-22 internationally when it is against the burst because the only training having been done between the 2, the Rafale won. The American pilots clearly said that they were impressed by the quality of the Rafale. We are currently the only country with the United States to have a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, for example. Our Caesar guns are some of the most accurate artillery guns in the world. The MAMBA with the Italians and one of the best anti-aircraft systems (From what I've heard it's even better than the American PATRIOT, but I'm not sure about that). As for ammunition, several Nexter factories have just reopened to provide us with a larger stock. We must not underestimate our capacities either, yes we have an army with very few soldiers, but in France patriotism has almost disappeared unlike the United States. There people proudly display themselves with their flags while in France they treat you as a fascist if you do. We must not forget that military capabilities are linked to politics and the economy... The less people will love their countries, the less they will join the army. But unlike some of our neighbors who are reducing their army (United Kingdom among others) France is expanding it.
C'était génial pour moi de découvrir ce magnifique navire Français qui résume bien l'expression : "En France, on n'a pas de pétrole, mais on à des idées !!!" C'est vraiment un navire efficace et bien conçu.
Certainly agree with all the commendable and powerful power of these BPCs. Britain certainly need one for it's marines who don't have their own command ship.
Please, stop kidding ! Russia was client of France, but after their Crimea agress, France decided to not deliver this kind of ship. Russia attempt to repair his only aircraft carrier, and can't take it out off the state of wrek...
@@Floridaboi-pe3fk White flag come from English surrendering to the Kingdom of France. Our reputation is to be feared by the rest of Europe for centuries.
France has the second largest maritime territory in the world (10 millions square kilometers) right after the US (11 millions square kilometers) and before Australia (9 millions square kilomters), this is why the French Navy is made a priority by France to stay the largest and strongest from european countries to be able to protect that territory, with parts of it all over the world, in every ocean. Huge task for such a small country compared to giants such as the US, China, Russia, India, and this is why french engineering is of the finest. Quality has to prevail over quantity, no choice.
As a frenchman i'll tell you something. Metropolitan French politics folks don't really care about french peoples living on french islands thousands kilometers of France, they only care about theses island for the ressources their maritime territories hold and touristic incomes, worst thing is that they even often makes funs of peoples coming from theses islands and maintain them in poverty and sometime under a terrible condition (one recent example is mayotte, gov trying to ignore peoples don't have access to fresh water !). They still behave like there is a smell of colonial era. So yeah, french navies exists to protect theses territories (not much their peoples) and are used as refuelling spots for allies or french power projection. An old example of what theses islands can be is Haiti, it was also a french island before, and they were given their liberty in exchange of a huge debt they are still paying back nowandays to France, maintaining them in extreme poverty. I see that as a warning for other islands.
@@dev-mc4jq this documentary literally shows how France used its capabilities to help st-Martin rebuild after a hurricane. Such is one of many advantages to being part of France. Mayotte’s biggest problem is illegal immigration from neighbouring Comorians who flee to Mayotte for a better life. All overseas territories today are free to leave through democratic process. St-Domingue/Haiti was a different era and the island was taken from France by force.
What like Maginot Line where the germans want around it. And did you hereabout the man how flow back to France in June. Frenchman: “Do you have your passport?” Man: “Nope” Frenchman: “You can not enter France with out your passport”. Man: “But last time I did not need to show anyone my passport” Franchman: “YOU CAN NOT, HAVE NOT, AND WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED IN TO FRANCE WITH OUT YOUR PASSPORT” Man: “WELL LAST TIME I COME TO FRANCE WAS JUNE 1944 AND I COULD FIND A F**KING FRENCHMAN TO SHOW IT TO” But hey good lucky with your technology and innovation even thou the British had something like this for years and years and years like you know on D-DAY.
@@sarahwilliams755 True - big mistake of ours to be quite naive of thinking the German would respect Neutral countries such as Belgium and the Netherlands. And we were very arrogant/ignorant too. But seeing what the Germans do nowadays - their army (every branch) is absolutely harmless for not to say laughable and even small countries like Switzerland feel very comfy.
@@christopha.mueller1287 Oh because the germans are know the play by the rules even from the First World War. Not only know a the first Great War but the end of civilised war, with the Germans sinking the lusitania bombing cities via air ships and the introduction of gas.
@@sarahwilliams755 I suppose we both saw the same video here, right? So, I didn't pretend the French invented all new on naval landing operations, but as you could see they truly introduced some new technology for this type of vessel and therefore enhanced the operation capabilities. So, I don't really know, what you're insinuating.
France doesn't have the biggest military budget, so they have to resort more to efficiency and ingenuity to get close of the capabilities of those who can spend way more... when designing new materials/equipment, this has a vera big influence on the engineer mindset... where some will throw money at the problem, French engineer will look for alternate solutions
Pragmatism tells us that with less we can do more and remain independent. The French often use their famous system D (le système D comme Débrouille). Out of the box thinking.
To be fair in France more and more people doens''t see usa are allies... Sabotaging the australien deal is one blow but therr is so more. A lot of french societies are aggressly bought and dismanteled by usa, like our jewel, Alstom. Usa also inflict lot of unfair penalties to french societies
i must say, i went to france for becoming an engineer, after seeing this, i think i will stay and apply for Naval Group ( The corporation that made this master piece)
oui mais il faut faire attention, on en a construit 2 pour la Russie, ils étaient achevés, heureusement qu'on a rompu le contrat après les 1ere attaques contre l'Ukraine. Je crois qu'ils ont été vendu à l'Egypte depuis. Mais du moment qu'on en a gardé pour nous, c'est ok ^^
@Brandon FR Then why are you saying it will be a success if it wont happen? Whats wrong with the QE's? they look perfect for expansion and modification in the future
@Brandon FR They are gonna fit a catapult on the PoW, Conventional propulsion is much safer and alowd in more ports where you have to go to restock food anyway, Nuclear carriers are just asking for bother if they ever did get took out or leak and the F35, We have some of the best escort ships in the world and building more that is how carriers are supposed to work
@HMS King George V The French built their nuclear attack submarines on their own, unlike the British, who did not need American help to complete the program.
I do like this vessel for its multi role capabilities and it’s surprising that more naval forces in the world don’t have exactly the same in their inventory
Most countries aren't interested in projecting power beyond their respective borders. Their navies are defensive in nature so local coastal patrol is adequate.
@@JohnS916 ,. That French Ship would be great for service in national disasters like hurricanes. It might suit the French needs for deployment to their African colonies to battle unsophisticated insurgent forces. But it wouldnt be worth its salt to deploy an invasion force into hostile areas.
@@RR-us2kp ,. Lololololololol. STFU until you get an education, fool. French Indochina, 1954 In the late 1940s, the French struggled to control its colonies in Indochina - Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. Despite financial assistance from the United States, nationalist uprisings against French colonial rule began to take their toll. On May 7, 1954, the French-held garrison at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam fell after a four month siege led by Vietnamese nationalist Ho Chi Minh. After the fall of Dien Bien Phu, the French pulled out of the region.
Never saw a documentary of a heli carrier before and this ship is a lot more than "just" a heli carrier. Great documentary, which covers so many interesting parts in detail, the ship sounds amazing with a lot of capabilities that it can cover. Surely not a ship for every country/navy, but very interesting. The Netherlands share the Karel Doorman with Germany and the ship seems to cover some of the features of the Thunder Boat, we (Germany) don't have anything close to it, but we do have a very different approach to missions abroad than the French mind you. Anyway, so much thought went into the design of this ship and experience, seems like a fantastic versatile ship. French navy can be proud of it. Thanks for the very interesting look behind the scenes, I always wondered about these ships and this documentary gives soo much more insight than your regular wiki entries of course.
@LOLO / VAL Just the conversation of you two is interesting as well. A lot of investment in one place, but for the uses spoken of, not combat with another navy, you do indeed have a very impressive design. ( spoken as an ex-USN Navigator). I only worry that. as evidenced in the Black Sea, shore-to-ship portable munitions are getting very dangerous.
France has the widest sea territories in the world, above that, France mainland is surrounded by 3 seas, so it is meaningful to be able to use this field. Germany used to prefer invading by land so I understand you don't put much importance in Navy technologies :)
Nice piece of kit - OK nothing much new (apart from the Catamaran landing vessel) but the combination of everything together is beautiful - oh how I wish we had all that back in the 60's when I was involved in such vessels!
Using azimutal pods was pretty disruptive for a military ship . I've seen most of the class Mistral ships during their sea trials, they are incredibly manœuvrable .
Before you talk about how US carriers are soooooo much bigger, just remember: France has free healthcare and education. Remember that next time you are worried about how much that visit to the doctor is gonna cost you, or what you'll do if you get sick, or how you can't afford to go to college. And yes, I live in the US.
I'm French and i have to correct some things: they are financed by tons of compulsory taxes directly taken from salaries. moreover, the quality of care is poor and it is often difficult to obtain. More and more French people are turning to private hospitals where the service is paid but of better quality. For education, it's the same funding and the level is one of the lowest in Europe, many French people prefer to pay for private schools. In the end, we are forced to pay for an outdated system that is only truly free for those who do not work
@@saumonvenernot to talk about how nurses and doctors are paid badly and often leave france for the USA. Only a current minority of government workers really benefit enormously from the big pensions and the little work
@@sasquatch2753 we know, you are just trying to push the rampant American taunt on the French escape. We are used to it, especially because it came from countries that we have fought and destroyed through time
OK let me correct a major mistake here. Its not "the thunder boat". The ship is called TONNERRE which means "Thunder" in French. TONNERRE is part of the MISTRAL class. MISTRAL is the lead ship, TONNERRE is her sister ship as is DIXMUDE. There are two other MISTRAL class ships that were originally to be sold to Russia but after Russia invasion of Crimea the sale was cancelled (as punishment) and sold to EGYPT instead. These ships are called ABDEL NASSER and ANWAR SADAT. There is also a smaller version available for export called the "MISTRAL 140" for countries with smaller budgets, although there are as of yet no orders.
If you go in the big city it's expensive, like everywhere else in the world. But many place in France are cheap and people dont have much money. @@YoniBaruch-y3m
@@patleliononly 3: Mistral, Tonnerre and Dixmude. Two other BPC were build for Russia but the contract has been broken following the invasion of Crimea. As far as I know, they have been sold to Egypt.
france is a very great independant country in th e military they can make anythng on their own and so well made , very impressive the qality of this equipment !! congrats france really !!
@@athrunzala6770 politiquement si vs voulez mais militairement la France est totalement indépendant..l'industrie militaire française peut fabriquer tout types d'armemant tant qu'ielle aura les moyens financiers biensur
@@swann67000 ahh non les french vs etes pessimiste je trouve..vous connaissez mal votre armée La France est la deuxième puissance occidentale juste après les US et loin devant les UK....vs parlez de guerre mais il faut savoir une chose..même si un jour là France entrait en guerre contre les états Unis où la Russie et Bein...sachez qu'il aurait pas de vainqueur..la France les détruirait une fois et eux vous détruiront 100fois..voilà la différence...de nos jours aucuns puissance n'oserait s'attaquer à la France car elle a une dissuasion nucléaire indépendante ce que les anglais n'ont pas...dans une éventuelle guerre nucléaires les portes avions ne serviront à rien seul les sous marins seront utiles et les russes l'ont bien compris
@@swann67000 certe l'armée française pourrai augmenter son budjet mais elle sera obligé de sacrifier d'autres secteur reste à savoir si elle en aura le courage car économiquement la France est un peu limité par rapport au géant américain ou chinois..bref ce qui est sùr la France reste une grande puissance militaire car elle fabrique tout elle même ..vs me parler de la Turquie mais pourquoi elle a reculer concernant l'exploitation du gaz au large de la gréce..la Turquie a la chance d'être membre de l'OTAN et du coup la France est un peu obligé de negocier...enfaite la France doit sortir de l'OTAN tout simplement..vs me parlez de respect mais sachez que l'armée française a le respect des 4 grandes puissance..US..RUSSIE CHINE..INDE. en off ils se connaissent tous..vs croyez que le fait que les Emirats aient acheté 80 rafales est du hasard alors que les Américains avaient proposé les f35 ...enfaite c'était pour calmer la France par rapport aux fiasco des sous marins car l'Amérique ne peut pas se permettre de perdre un allié considéré comme le deuxième pays le plus grand au monde de par sa zone économique exclusive Bon moi je suis un sénégalais passionné en géopolitique et bien informè...lol
@@edouardkaspers2940 en effet de par ses territoires dans le pacifique sud a travers la france l'UE est aussi présente dans cette region si elle sort de l'UE comme les anglais celà affaiblirait beaucoup l'union géopolitiquement et strategiquement UE
I would love to see more documentaries about current and future French weapon systems. From the Charles DeGaulle aircraft carrier to modernization of the Lecrerc tank to Dassault Rafale to an awesome Cesar self propelled howitzer to French Navy's frigates. And last, but not the least, an awesome nuclear submarines, especially this new class that you're building for the Australian Navy where the basic nuclear submarine design was used as a template for the advanced AIP diesel electric submarines. They will be an awesome power projection platforms for the Australian Navy in the ever more increasingly dangerous and contested South China sea.
Good. The world stage needs more french presence. These kind of versatile ships can project "soft power" in peace, and deliver "hard power" if it comes to that.
This video shows the value of having allies. This impressive vessel contains many innovations pioneered by the USA and Britain, and adds brilliant things of its own that one can bet we will adopt. No country does everything best. Working and learning together makes us all stronger.
No, no country does everything best. But on the military level, France is the only European country quite independent of its allies in terms of military equipment and its equipment is quite remarkable.
As the Brit I assume you are I assume you think Britain was ahead of France in every possible way. But the reality is that France was from the beginning ahead of Britain in aviation especially, and not behind in anything. But I agree we always learn from each other, all of us, But some assumptions still smell and not so good either, and they tend to remain and remain.
The UK could do with some of these types of ships as we lost the only one we had and the one in the RFA is well over 40 years old now ! Thank you for the video and thumbs up.
Maybe the French could lend us theirs considering we have been helping them out in Africa with Chinooks etc.......Afterall we are neighbours and besty mates.. :-)
@@devin5139 did you enjoy the vid? I'm a USN vet and this French multi Role ship is great. Don't need to kick em with the equivalent USN amphibs. We all know USN is an awesome navy. However France is a can do country as well. They are the only navy besides the USN that operates a Nuke Carrier. So did you enjoy the vid or not. I sure as hell did. Way to go France and your navy.
For the record, this class of ship is already proven in most of its possible mission, even when it was just barely accepted into service: - evacuation from Lebanon - disaster relief after hurricane in Lesser Antilles islands - sending combat helicopters at night for raids on Libya
Actually the indian navy is looking that buying 4 for those or bigger, this one is 16 500 tons empty, the bigger version is 25 000 tons empty. An other lighter version 13 500 tonnes is also offered by naval group.
Don't worry, Indian Navy is already ordering four such ships, they will have additional capabilities over and above what this French Mistral class has. Would be great if they modify the French Mistral class for those additional capabilities. France has good relations with Indian MDL, they can make the ships in India. Either them or CSL.
The us navy uses RAST gear. A weight and cable drop[s down and is captured by a skid that locks the cable and the helo can winch itself down and then rides in a track. This helps capture the helicopter in rough seas and then pulls the helo into the hangar bay on smaller ships.
As a French it is nice to see positive post about this multirole design and how France can still cope with few money to keep an acceptable military capability in diverse fields (Howitzer, Navy, Aircraft) . However the truth is we were urged to do our best with fewer budget each year which explains such "swiss knife" design is not reallly a choice but mandatory... Keeping a fully autonomous military capabilities (including own Nuclear weapons not to depend on US decision in case our Nation existence could be jeopardized ) while other European countries were still 100% counting on the US nuke umbrella led to a decline of our economical performances while others could invest in other fields all the money they did not have to invest in the army. This has created an economical competitive advantage within EU and unfair competition which partially explain German economically overperformance for decades (partially...) and finally led to anti European feelings among some workers in declining economical sectors... As a consequence it has been like a viscious circle ... fewer money ... have to struggle to keep military performance anyway ... fewer money available then... struggling more to keep a decent army ... etc... etc... . and a viscious circle decreasing trust in real European partnerships in the same time... It is a pity European nations did not decide to have same position as for civil aircraft with Airbus balancing Boeing and sometimes beating it in some aspects ... European partnerships in the military are never successful and countries always choose US equipment instead... We had some decades to be ready and able to protect ourselves against a threat for our civilization and values as we are facing right now from diverse parts of the world ... With proper European leaders which could have been a decent European capable force beside US ("beside" and not as vassal) but we have wasted this opportunity. This would have been in the US advantage too to let its main partner becoming stronger and reach a more balanced role in the Western partnership. However, as often, the US prefer friendly countries acting like vassals rather like real partners because they think keeping a dependance link is more trustable for them...I think it's a strategic mistake. They made sure by several means (example available on demand) its partner does not become too strong and too independant capable while claiming in the same time he should invest more in its own defense capabilities... Now I wonder how countries like Baltics would react if someday more and more US leaders get closer to Trump line and agree to shift from "America first" line to "America only"... (It would be by the way also a bad move from the US since current events show how much the US, alone, is struggling to cope with anti Western democratic model forces from diverse parts of the world...)
I was thinking that too. Tonnere is a proper name and shouldn't have been translated. I knew there wasn't any ship in the French Navy with that name so I searched for why it was called the Thunder Boat.
Which is going to attract more English-only speaking viewers? 'How The Revolutionary Thunder Boat Was Built'? 'How The Revolutionary Tonnere Was Built'? The former obviously.
How that young french army guy talks is so typcaly french The hand gestures, the moving eyes haha Nice little invasion force de la france, très bien messieurs
Of course it's not design for "little invasion"", France have no more that kind of possibillity! It's made for a quick moblie force projection, and if we could have support from other EU forces, so it would ve been possible to build more than one....But EU is a political joke, and France stands alone to do that kind of effort!!!
Bravo au bateau, à ses marins qui le mettent en œuvre, aux ingénieurs qui l'ont conçu, à ceux qui l'ont construit et à ceux qui l'utilisent. Mais aussi félicitations au réalisateur de ce film qui permet en 50 minutes de presque tout savoir de ce magnifique "couteau suisse naval".
I've been in a lot of ships and I say that the RMC De`Couverte was built with navy personnel in mind, because the halls and other passages are much wider and their work and living spaces less crowded.
I was particularly happy to hear that our French friends have decided to develop a replacement for their aircraft carrier and build a new potent and larger ship that will sail the seas and keep the world order based on laws. Great news guys.... Next step is developing hypersonic missiles, from the anti ship to land attack types.. Go France, America is back and stands besides our European friends..
I kind of feel that Spark just watched a documentary on French TV and then did their best to narrate over top of it. I find it very unlikely that any Spark staff actually visited this ship. Or even visited France.
Why do you need to translate the vessel's name ? It's "Tonnerre", not "Thunder boat". We don't say "Le navire de sa majesté la Reine Elizabeth" instead of "HMS Queen Elizabeth", nor "Navire des Etats-Unis La Nouvelle Orléans" instead of "USS New Orleans", it would be weird.
Le Tonnerre was send to Beirut after the devastating explosion with food, an onboard extended hospital , medics, navy firemen and a specialized team with their dogs to search and rescue victims trapped under the rubble . The Tonnerre was also transporting trucks and heavy duty vehicles .
it is a helicopter carrier, with a workshop for the maintenance of these helicopters, it is also a ship for transporting military equipment, it can carry around 40 Leclerc tanks, it can transport infantrymen or evacuate civilians in the event of an emergency. disaster like a hurricane, it is a hospital comprising 2 surgical blocks, it is a command center and conventional or satellite radio transmissions, it can balester by filling tanks in order to adapt its level of buoyancy, it can carry 2 transport catamarans of 100 tons capacity each (L-CAT), it is equipped with pods and a bow thruster, which allows it to maintain its GPS position automatically! it can also stabilize itself using rudders! he even impressed the Americans who have much larger ships!
@@lebigeon Yeah - the face France is rocking a 35+ year old primary fighter and an aircraft carrier half the size of the QE class. We gotta compensate for French military shortcomings essentially.
Viva la France! I think they should investigate winch based landing systems for their landings in bad weather. It's easy to get a helicopter on deck when it's attached to a winch ;)
improving the Thunder Boat I have a suggestion. When the catamran is going in the belly of the mothership, a mistake maybe disasterous BUT YOU CAN AVOID IT BY fixing large rubber ball berrings that rolls on the side of the Mother ship Belly. That way catamran can hit both side of the belly of the mothership and you will be alright.
I see SH-60H's. And the Osprey. I'm a Retired US Navy Aircrewman/Rescue Swimmer. I was always impressed that we share submarine ICBM s with the UK. But only with Great Britain.
My congratulations to the producers, directors and crew who created this documentary. It is very very well done ! This was really worth the hour I spent watching it.
Whilst watching this my neck veins started popping out as I thought about David Cameron selling our HMS Ocean, she was very similar to this and now we've lost a large helicopter carrier which could take Wildcat, Apache, Merlin, Chinook helicopters or about 15 Harriers so she was a decent ship. She could also carry 830 troops, 250 crew plus the aircrew and maintenance crews as well...... she was chuffing awesome!!
She could carry harriers but not launch them (here deck was to weak) And besides we have dedicated amphibious ships for amphibious landings that can carry also carry helicopters,not to mention our aircraft carriers are bigger so could hold more helicopters or use one aircraft carrier as a helicopter carrier.
Never mind, we have two of the most modern aircraft carriers in the world that are twice the size of the French Navy's Charles De Gaulle (which is then itself bigger than this amphibious heli carrier). Its a good ship but nothing new. The UK used to have them, the US Marines have some and this ship is in fact smaller than the Australian Navy's flagship of the same type.
@@francinesicard464 France is in the same situation as the British when they designed and built the Queen Elizabeth class - build one nuclear carrier or have two conventional carriers. We sensibly opted for two carriers, the French went for one. As they say with heirs and spares - two is one, one is none.
The French have always been incredibly dangerous warriors. The French General Marquis Layfette liberaterated the US. But they taught us well. There is nothing like the USS Gerald Ford with a couple submarine SeaWolfs and some air defense like destroyers and Zumwalts. Lucky we are allies and have been for centuries.
It's a pretty decent ship with some excellent features and capabilities, its only flaw is it's severe lack of defensive hardware but obviously it will never be on its own in a high threat area.
travaillant aux Chantier de l'atlantique je voudrais vous dire merci pour vos commentaires./working at Chantier de l'atlantique I would like to say thank you for your comments.
@@procommunistdestruction2318 With the shaft less propulsion pods with 360 deg rotation? Anchorless mooring? Which ship is that? I'd like to watch that video as well.
LHD’s are good value for money Both Australia’s Canberra class are busy filling many tasks from humanitarian , joint exercises in Asia Pacific and port visits. The ultimate soft power projector Excellent as the center of an amphibious or anti submarine task force. Our LHD’s have really strengthened out relationships in the region which is good for our alliance’s and reputation with other armed forces
Canada is strange. The Mistral, then I heard they wanted to buy new fighter jets and were interested in the Rafale and Gripen. Finally go for the F-35 and in the end they lowered the number of F-35 to buy modernized F-18. Every military decisions Canada did these last years are just really strange.
It's always "America this, America that" and sometimes Brittain gets a shoutout, and it's nice to see some other equipment for once. especially as a german, I'm really impressed by what a formidable force France can field on such a tight budget. mad respect
@@swann67000 i mean, you guys have a functioning expeditionary force, an indigenous nuclear weapons program, anuclear subs and a nuclear carrier, and a strong fighter industry. and all that with a budget smaller than Germany's. We had to pull out of Afghanistan because we can't keep our own forces supplied. I think you guys are doing rather good with what you've got
I agree. As I commented just a bit before, this is why allies matter. As a US Navy veteran I recognize technologies here pioneered by us and the Brits, but some I think are unique to this vessel that all of us can benefit from. The USA's best motorized artillery weapon is licensed from Norway. I can't think of an example off hand, but I'll bet our military has benefited a lot from Germany too.
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No, I wish I had, but only the Canadians, Norwegians, Brits, and Australians.
Not forgetting that on military level, France is the only European country largely independent of its allies in terms of military equipment and its equipment is quite remarkable. As we say at home, Nécessité fait loi. A tight military budget which led to a pragmatic policy of building multirole equipment, see the Rafale. We learned the lessons of WWII. Si vis pacem para bellum.
@@swann67000 First of all I specify that I am French too. You compare incomparable things, the USA is a little less than 15 times larger than France with a population 5 to 6 times larger, a MUCH larger economy than France. It is sure compared to the USA, France has a rather mediocre army. Only compared to many countries the majority of our military industry is "autonomous" and our technology is "equal" to that of the USA. I take the Rafale as an example, it is equivalent to the American F-22, moreover the Americans no longer show the F-22 internationally when it is against the burst because the only training having been done between the 2, the Rafale won. The American pilots clearly said that they were impressed by the quality of the Rafale. We are currently the only country with the United States to have a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, for example. Our Caesar guns are some of the most accurate artillery guns in the world. The MAMBA with the Italians and one of the best anti-aircraft systems (From what I've heard it's even better than the American PATRIOT, but I'm not sure about that). As for ammunition, several Nexter factories have just reopened to provide us with a larger stock.
We must not underestimate our capacities either, yes we have an army with very few soldiers, but in France patriotism has almost disappeared unlike the United States. There people proudly display themselves with their flags while in France they treat you as a fascist if you do. We must not forget that military capabilities are linked to politics and the economy... The less people will love their countries, the less they will join the army. But unlike some of our neighbors who are reducing their army (United Kingdom among others) France is expanding it.
C'était génial pour moi de découvrir ce magnifique navire Français qui résume bien l'expression : "En France, on n'a pas de pétrole, mais on à des idées !!!" C'est vraiment un navire efficace et bien conçu.
Certainly agree with all the commendable and powerful power of these BPCs. Britain certainly need one for it's marines who don't have their own command ship.
@@Isshiki0tsutsuki-yc4qm HMS X1
Awesome ship. Nice to see the French build a multi-capability ship. Nice complement to allied capabilities.
Please, stop kidding ! Russia was client of France, but after their Crimea agress, France decided to not deliver this kind of ship. Russia attempt to repair his only aircraft carrier, and can't take it out off the state of wrek...
@charlesepstein898the bpc are 100% french and probably have more technologies than any others helicopter carrier
@Charles Epstein No. France was building 3 for itself and 2 for Russia which were then sold to Egypt.
Would be good if they hosted their white flag on the ship to stay true with their reputation
@@Floridaboi-pe3fk White flag come from English surrendering to the Kingdom of France. Our reputation is to be feared by the rest of Europe for centuries.
I appreciate how France always does its own thin.
Un navire très impressionnant ! Ça me rend fier d'être français !
France has the second largest maritime territory in the world (10 millions square kilometers) right after the US (11 millions square kilometers) and before Australia (9 millions square kilomters), this is why the French Navy is made a priority by France to stay the largest and strongest from european countries to be able to protect that territory, with parts of it all over the world, in every ocean. Huge task for such a small country compared to giants such as the US, China, Russia, India, and this is why french engineering is of the finest. Quality has to prevail over quantity, no choice.
As a frenchman i'll tell you something.
Metropolitan French politics folks don't really care about french peoples living on french islands thousands kilometers of France, they only care about theses island for the ressources their maritime territories hold and touristic incomes, worst thing is that they even often makes funs of peoples coming from theses islands and maintain them in poverty and sometime under a terrible condition (one recent example is mayotte, gov trying to ignore peoples don't have access to fresh water !). They still behave like there is a smell of colonial era.
So yeah, french navies exists to protect theses territories (not much their peoples) and are used as refuelling spots for allies or french power projection.
An old example of what theses islands can be is Haiti, it was also a french island before, and they were given their liberty in exchange of a huge debt they are still paying back nowandays to France, maintaining them in extreme poverty. I see that as a warning for other islands.
@@dev-mc4jq this documentary literally shows how France used its capabilities to help st-Martin rebuild after a hurricane. Such is one of many advantages to being part of France. Mayotte’s biggest problem is illegal immigration from neighbouring Comorians who flee to Mayotte for a better life. All overseas territories today are free to leave through democratic process. St-Domingue/Haiti was a different era and the island was taken from France by force.
plus de 10,9 millions de km²
I'm soo proud to be French and always was - French technology and innovation, not to forget their ingenious engineering, is top notch.
What like Maginot Line where the germans want around it.
And did you hereabout the man how flow back to France in June.
Frenchman: “Do you have your passport?”
Man: “Nope”
Frenchman: “You can not enter France with out your passport”.
Man: “But last time I did not need to show anyone my passport”
Franchman: “YOU CAN NOT, HAVE NOT, AND WILL NEVER BE ALLOWED IN TO FRANCE WITH OUT YOUR PASSPORT”
Man: “WELL LAST TIME I COME TO FRANCE WAS JUNE 1944 AND I COULD FIND A F**KING FRENCHMAN TO SHOW IT TO”
But hey good lucky with your technology and innovation even thou the British had something like this for years and years and years like you know on D-DAY.
@@sarahwilliams755 True - big mistake of ours to be quite naive of thinking the German would respect Neutral countries such as Belgium and the Netherlands. And we were very arrogant/ignorant too.
But seeing what the Germans do nowadays - their army (every branch) is absolutely harmless for not to say laughable and even small countries like Switzerland feel very comfy.
@@christopha.mueller1287 Oh because the germans are know the play by the rules even from the First World War. Not only know a the first Great War but the end of civilised war, with the Germans sinking the lusitania bombing cities via air ships and the introduction of gas.
@@sarahwilliams755 I suppose we both saw the same video here, right? So, I didn't pretend the French invented all new on naval landing operations, but as you could see
they truly introduced some new technology for this type of vessel and therefore enhanced the operation capabilities. So, I don't really know, what you're insinuating.
I would not tell anyone if I was French.Luckily ,I was born the other side of the channel.
One of the best army,
Air Force and navy in the planet
France doesn't have the biggest military budget, so they have to resort more to efficiency and ingenuity to get close of the capabilities of those who can spend way more...
when designing new materials/equipment, this has a vera big influence on the engineer mindset... where some will throw money at the problem, French engineer will look for alternate solutions
Pragmatism tells us that with less we can do more and remain independent. The French often use their famous system D (le système D comme Débrouille). Out of the box thinking.
France, I'm glad that you're our ally and have been our ally for a very long time, Vive La France from the USA!
Hello from France !
Independence WW2 WW1 and way more
There wouldn't be a u.s.a. without the help of the French during the revolutionary war
To be fair in France more and more people doens''t see usa are allies... Sabotaging the australien deal is one blow but therr is so more. A lot of french societies are aggressly bought and dismanteled by usa, like our jewel, Alstom.
Usa also inflict lot of unfair penalties to french societies
@@malikben930 France doesn't look like it will fight China if it came down to it.
I served 2 years on the predecessor of this ship in the 70's. TCD ORAGE (Storm) L9022
Same principles but of course less high tech in those days !
i must say, i went to france for becoming an engineer, after seeing this, i think i will stay and apply for Naval Group ( The corporation that made this master piece)
Viva la France... Thank you for sharing such an innovation with the world.
oui mais il faut faire attention, on en a construit 2 pour la Russie, ils étaient achevés, heureusement qu'on a rompu le contrat après les 1ere attaques contre l'Ukraine. Je crois qu'ils ont été vendu à l'Egypte depuis. Mais du moment qu'on en a gardé pour nous, c'est ok ^^
@@Terab75 So unfortunate, that invader deserves none of this ship.
Really? Sharing innovation? The US has 20 of these things prowling the oceans...for decades...just stop.
You need to give credit to the french : when they design weapons, they know what they are doing !
Definitely
Did you know Italy will soon have a THIRD aircraft carrier?…..
@Brandon FR Would need to be the QE make the charles de gualle look like a rowing boat
@Brandon FR Then why are you saying it will be a success if it wont happen? Whats wrong with the QE's? they look perfect for expansion and modification in the future
@Brandon FR They are gonna fit a catapult on the PoW, Conventional propulsion is much safer and alowd in more ports where you have to go to restock food anyway, Nuclear carriers are just asking for bother if they ever did get took out or leak and the F35, We have some of the best escort ships in the world and building more that is how carriers are supposed to work
Congratulations France on these superb ships, a true testament to French engineering and skill.
"french engineering skill"? ha ha ha!! that made me laugh :}
@@dai0laffin Why ?
@@dai0laffin France builds excellent warships.
The first stealth frigates were designed by France and then other countries copied.
@HMS King George V The French built their nuclear attack submarines on their own, unlike the British, who did not need American help to complete the program.
@@brandonr6804 bien dit, heureusement qu'il existe des Americans sensés.
SO HUGE THIS MILITARY BOAT !! CONGRATS FRENCH FRIENDS !!!
I do like this vessel for its multi role capabilities and it’s surprising that more naval forces in the world don’t have exactly the same in their inventory
Most countries aren't interested in projecting power beyond their respective borders. Their navies are defensive in nature so local coastal patrol is adequate.
Egypt bought France 2 units
Russia was supposed to buy a couple also but France declined
@@raphaelortegacoste6509 Because Russia fucked up Egypt got the two ships !
You have several navies that have such kind of ships, at least : USA, France, South Korea, Spain, Italy, Egypt, Australia, Japan,...
I'm French, I knew these ships, but I learned a lot thanks to this video. thank you
This kind of vessel seems perfect for major modern day navy operations.
Outstanding vessel and congratulations to the French for building such a versatile craft. I'll wager they could even accept jump jets if need be.
For a peacetime mission!
Otherwise all I see is a future artificial reef.
@@unitedwestand5100 did you watch the video?
@@JohnS916 ,. That French Ship would be great for service in national disasters like hurricanes.
It might suit the French needs for deployment to their African colonies to battle unsophisticated insurgent forces.
But it wouldnt be worth its salt to deploy an invasion force into hostile areas.
@@unitedwestand5100 France is definitely better than US at fighting that sort of fights.
France didn't lose to Vietnamese rice farmers.
@@RR-us2kp ,. Lololololololol.
STFU until you get an education, fool.
French Indochina, 1954
In the late 1940s, the French struggled to control its colonies in Indochina - Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos. Despite financial assistance from the United States, nationalist uprisings against French colonial rule began to take their toll. On May 7, 1954, the French-held garrison at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam fell after a four month siege led by Vietnamese nationalist Ho Chi Minh. After the fall of Dien Bien Phu, the French pulled out of the region.
Fantastic ingenuity. Congratulations France.
Naval group is the company that is bulding these beast, looking for a job ? check out naval group recrutement
22:12 I've never seen a guy so enthusiastic about parallel parking!
i'am agree with you!!,he look happy like a child in a candy shop!!lool
it's more a question of stress and translation which gives this impression
It's also a fucking nightmare to park in Paris lol
That isn’t really an easy manoeuvre to do with a 200m long/ 20 000t ship !
Everybody has a passion
Never saw a documentary of a heli carrier before and this ship is a lot more than "just" a heli carrier. Great documentary, which covers so many interesting parts in detail, the ship sounds amazing with a lot of capabilities that it can cover. Surely not a ship for every country/navy, but very interesting. The Netherlands share the Karel Doorman with Germany and the ship seems to cover some of the features of the Thunder Boat, we (Germany) don't have anything close to it, but we do have a very different approach to missions abroad than the French mind you. Anyway, so much thought went into the design of this ship and experience, seems like a fantastic versatile ship. French navy can be proud of it. Thanks for the very interesting look behind the scenes, I always wondered about these ships and this documentary gives soo much more insight than your regular wiki entries of course.
@LOLO / VAL Just the conversation of you two is interesting as well. A lot of investment in one place, but for the uses spoken of, not combat with another navy, you do indeed have a very impressive design. ( spoken as an ex-USN Navigator). I only worry that. as evidenced in the Black Sea, shore-to-ship portable munitions are getting very dangerous.
France has the widest sea territories in the world, above that, France mainland is surrounded by 3 seas, so it is meaningful to be able to use this field. Germany used to prefer invading by land so I understand you don't put much importance in Navy technologies :)
Amazing, from design to functionality. Every little thing has been thought out.
Really brilliant and what a well trained crew the French lead the way with these vessels.
Nice piece of kit - OK nothing much new (apart from the Catamaran landing vessel) but the combination of everything together is beautiful - oh how I wish we had all that back in the 60's when I was involved in such vessels!
Using azimutal pods was pretty disruptive for a military ship . I've seen most of the class Mistral ships during their sea trials, they are incredibly manœuvrable .
Fantastic piece of engineering and technology.
Thank you to our allies across the Atlantic. 🇺🇸 / 🇫🇷
OK just me or are the French Navy uniforms really cool
yes they are
its you.
The uniforms from the French navy are not for show-off, but designed with operational efficiency in mind.
So yeah, they are cool.
It’s just you 😂
@@humblepie1017 they look more like firemen lol
Before you talk about how US carriers are soooooo much bigger, just remember: France has free healthcare and education. Remember that next time you are worried about how much that visit to the doctor is gonna cost you, or what you'll do if you get sick, or how you can't afford to go to college. And yes, I live in the US.
Smart thinking, really.
You might as live on the moon. Your talk means nothing
Yup, but French government is trying really hard to end free Healthcare, and national pension...
I'm French and i have to correct some things:
they are financed by tons of compulsory taxes directly taken from salaries. moreover, the quality of care is poor and it is often difficult to obtain. More and more French people are turning to private hospitals where the service is paid but of better quality. For education, it's the same funding and the level is one of the lowest in Europe, many French people prefer to pay for private schools. In the end, we are forced to pay for an outdated system that is only truly free for those who do not work
@@saumonvenernot to talk about how nurses and doctors are paid badly and often leave france for the USA. Only a current minority of government workers really benefit enormously from the big pensions and the little work
A European country which has 1 building of this type is already good ... 3 ... it is even better !!!
Nice 👍🙏
How fast does it go in reverse ?
@@sasquatch2753 Why?
@@sasquatch2753 what’s up wanker?
Lol.. all three of you have NO clue to what my statement is actually saying ;-)
@@sasquatch2753 we know, you are just trying to push the rampant American taunt on the French escape. We are used to it, especially because it came from countries that we have fought and destroyed through time
OK let me correct a major mistake here. Its not "the thunder boat". The ship is called TONNERRE which means "Thunder" in French. TONNERRE is part of the MISTRAL class. MISTRAL is the lead ship, TONNERRE is her sister ship as is DIXMUDE. There are two other MISTRAL class ships that were originally to be sold to Russia but after Russia invasion of Crimea the sale was cancelled (as punishment) and sold to EGYPT instead. These ships are called ABDEL NASSER and ANWAR SADAT.
There is also a smaller version available for export called the "MISTRAL 140" for countries with smaller budgets, although there are as of yet no orders.
Tonnerre...two -r-.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Doh, should have known that. Corrected, thanks!
In France we don't have much money but we have great engineers.
“Don’t have much money”… but still a G7 economy and an expensive place to live! 😊
Expensive place to live? When one travels around, it appears to be quite reasonable.
If you go in the big city it's expensive, like everywhere else in the world. But many place in France are cheap and people dont have much money. @@YoniBaruch-y3m
@@YoniBaruch-y3m they're talking about military budget...
@@YoniBaruch-y3m Go to Singapore or Switzerland for expensive places to Iive in, not forgetting the UK which has gone from bad to worse with Brexit.🤣
wow that's a beast...this Naval ship alone has more sea land and air power than most navies in the world!
And the French have 4 of them 😮
@@patleliononly 3: Mistral, Tonnerre and Dixmude. Two other BPC were build for Russia but the contract has been broken following the invasion of Crimea. As far as I know, they have been sold to Egypt.
france is a very great independant country in th e military they can make anythng on their own and so well made , very impressive the qality of this equipment !! congrats france really !!
we are not independant anymore :( there is this fucking EU comission !
@@athrunzala6770 politiquement si vs voulez mais militairement la France est totalement indépendant..l'industrie militaire française peut fabriquer tout types d'armemant tant qu'ielle aura les moyens financiers biensur
@@swann67000 ahh non les french vs etes pessimiste je trouve..vous connaissez mal votre armée
La France est la deuxième puissance occidentale juste après les US et loin devant les UK....vs parlez de guerre mais il faut savoir une chose..même si un jour là France entrait en guerre contre les états Unis où la Russie et Bein...sachez qu'il aurait pas de vainqueur..la France les détruirait une fois et eux vous détruiront 100fois..voilà la différence...de nos jours aucuns puissance n'oserait s'attaquer à la France car elle a une dissuasion nucléaire indépendante ce que les anglais n'ont pas...dans une éventuelle guerre nucléaires les portes avions ne serviront à rien seul les sous marins seront utiles et les russes l'ont bien compris
@@swann67000 certe l'armée française pourrai augmenter son budjet mais elle sera obligé de sacrifier d'autres secteur reste à savoir si elle en aura le courage car économiquement la France est un peu limité par rapport au géant américain ou chinois..bref ce qui est sùr la France reste une grande puissance militaire car elle fabrique tout elle même ..vs me parler de la Turquie mais pourquoi elle a reculer concernant l'exploitation du gaz au large de la gréce..la Turquie a la chance d'être membre de l'OTAN et du coup la France est un peu obligé de negocier...enfaite la France doit sortir de l'OTAN tout simplement..vs me parlez de respect mais sachez que l'armée française a le respect des 4 grandes puissance..US..RUSSIE CHINE..INDE. en off ils se connaissent tous..vs croyez que le fait que les Emirats aient acheté 80 rafales est du hasard alors que les Américains avaient proposé les f35 ...enfaite c'était pour calmer la France par rapport aux fiasco des sous marins car l'Amérique ne peut pas se permettre de perdre un allié considéré comme le deuxième pays le plus grand au monde de par sa zone économique exclusive
Bon moi je suis un sénégalais passionné en géopolitique et bien informè...lol
@@edouardkaspers2940 en effet de par ses territoires dans le pacifique sud a travers la france l'UE est aussi présente dans cette region si elle sort de l'UE comme les anglais celà affaiblirait beaucoup l'union géopolitiquement et strategiquement UE
Great documentary. you really know how to keep people's attention and teach them something at the same time. well done
Now that's called a purposeful vessel. War, Humanitarian ground whatever you say!!
I would love to see more documentaries about current and future French weapon systems. From the Charles DeGaulle aircraft carrier to modernization of the Lecrerc tank to Dassault Rafale to an awesome Cesar self propelled howitzer to French Navy's frigates. And last, but not the least, an awesome nuclear submarines, especially this new class that you're building for the Australian Navy where the basic nuclear submarine design was used as a template for the advanced AIP diesel electric submarines. They will be an awesome power projection platforms for the Australian Navy in the ever more increasingly dangerous and contested South China sea.
Oh well... they ditched the diesel subs' deal as you know.
@@Itachi951000 Well, obviously. Stuff happen, things change.. Who would think 10 months ago that we could have a major war breaking out ij Europe?
@@vegass04 very true, the offer we did to the Australians was made in a much less violent environment than when they decided to join aukus
Too bad you’ll get Uncle Sam’s toys now. Makes sens from a logistical and political point of view but such a shame on a functional and field level.
This did not age well
Good. The world stage needs more french presence. These kind of versatile ships can project "soft power" in peace, and deliver "hard power" if it comes to that.
My next words is a sincere compliment, I’m surprised that the thunderboat pilot can walk at all with the size of cojones needed for his/ her job
This video shows the value of having allies. This impressive vessel contains many innovations pioneered by the USA and Britain, and adds brilliant things of its own that one can bet we will adopt. No country does everything best. Working and learning together makes us all stronger.
No, no country does everything best. But on the military level, France is the only European country quite independent of its allies in terms of military equipment and its equipment is quite remarkable.
As the Brit I assume you are I assume you think Britain was ahead of France in every possible way. But the reality is that France was from the beginning ahead of Britain in aviation especially, and not behind in anything. But I agree we always learn from each other, all of us,
But some assumptions still smell and not so good either, and they tend to remain and remain.
The UK could do with some of these types of ships as we lost the only one we had and the one in the RFA is well over 40 years old now ! Thank you for the video and thumbs up.
You had the HMS Ocean.
@@uncitoyen_8614 Yes and the wankers got rid of it ! :(
@@RJM1011 It was very old and hard to fix so I get why they sold it but I also think we should get a few.
@@michaelnolan6796 Yes I understand but one in the RFA is nearly 50 years old !
Maybe the French could lend us theirs considering we have been helping them out in Africa with Chinooks etc.......Afterall we are neighbours and besty mates.. :-)
The Swiss Army Knife of the French Navy. WOW, what a ship!
L9015 Victorinox!
What an exceptional piece of equipment - so versatile. Brilliant design 👌👌👏👏👏👏❤️
Its hardly unique. Doesn't even stack up to the dozen or so wasp and Tarawa class ships of the USN.
@@devin5139 American Nationalist spotted ! You have way more ships than anyone, good for you. We have free healthcare on our ships, do you ? :d
@@devin5139 those rusty pieces of junk? Eww
@@devin5139 we also had the ouragan class, but it's not floating anymore, good for you you kept your old navy
@@devin5139 did you enjoy the vid? I'm a USN vet and this French multi Role ship is great. Don't need to kick em with the equivalent USN amphibs.
We all know USN is an awesome navy. However France is a can do country as well. They are the only navy besides the USN that operates a Nuke Carrier.
So did you enjoy the vid or not. I sure as hell did. Way to go France and your navy.
good luck to her crew's 👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 from Las Vegas
Une merveille d'ingéniosité et de prouesses technologiques. Fier d'être français!
For the record, this class of ship is already proven in most of its possible mission, even when it was just barely accepted into service:
- evacuation from Lebanon
- disaster relief after hurricane in Lesser Antilles islands
- sending combat helicopters at night for raids on Libya
SF raids in Somalia too
Operation Sangaris and Operation Serval in Africa too.
Quick deployement of entire company teams on land.
Strap a few tanks to the flight deck and you have a destroyer
I wonder if there is actually provisions for doing this 😄
They did an experiment with a MLRS firing from the deck 😉
@@Lapantouflemagic0 i doubt, tank tracks could dmg landing deck, heck they do dmg the streets when they turn..
@@Zfast4y0u The American carriers I visited had a wooden layer on their flight decks if I remember correctly. I dont know if the tracks would do much.
egypt has 2 of these .. and we added humvees with missiles on deck
Magnificent naval vessel.
Navire de guerre et navire de paix. Ils ont aidé à sauver des centaines de gens victimes de cyclones, comme à St Martin.
France is very ambitious yet very cautious at the same time
I hope the Indian coast guard can have a smaller baby version of this for Diaster management
Actually the indian navy is looking that buying 4 for those or bigger, this one is 16 500 tons empty, the bigger version is 25 000 tons empty.
An other lighter version 13 500 tonnes is also offered by naval group.
@Shades 1.5 it's not for me or you to decide but the gov and the program is on going
Don't worry, Indian Navy is already ordering four such ships, they will have additional capabilities over and above what this French Mistral class has. Would be great if they modify the French Mistral class for those additional capabilities. France has good relations with Indian MDL, they can make the ships in India.
Either them or CSL.
Can't wait for the AQUAHOLIC review!
Who or what is that?
"This is a proper offshore go everywhere ship with a Miele dishwasher"
Even n it’s sailing ship designs,France has had a history of unique thinking resulting in unique designs
Impressive ship indeed. Thanks for the tour! :)
@Hello Ken how are you doing?
@@lydiaanderson7752 hi
2 in egypt
Great ship, flexible and well designed.
The us navy uses RAST gear. A weight and cable drop[s down and is captured by a skid that locks the cable and the helo can winch itself down and then rides in a track. This helps capture the helicopter in rough seas and then pulls the helo into the hangar bay on smaller ships.
What doesn't this do? I am impressed.
Tire-bouchon ? 😁
this ship is incredible ! a feat in technological terms....truly impressive ! i love it
As a French it is nice to see positive post about this multirole design and how France can still cope with few money to keep an acceptable military capability in diverse fields (Howitzer, Navy, Aircraft) . However the truth is we were urged to do our best with fewer budget each year which explains such "swiss knife" design is not reallly a choice but mandatory...
Keeping a fully autonomous military capabilities (including own Nuclear weapons not to depend on US decision in case our Nation existence could be jeopardized ) while other European countries were still 100% counting on the US nuke umbrella led to a decline of our economical performances while others could invest in other fields all the money they did not have to invest in the army. This has created an economical competitive advantage within EU and unfair competition which partially explain German economically overperformance for decades (partially...) and finally led to anti European feelings among some workers in declining economical sectors... As a consequence it has been like a viscious circle ... fewer money ... have to struggle to keep military performance anyway ... fewer money available then... struggling more to keep a decent army ... etc... etc... . and a viscious circle decreasing trust in real European partnerships in the same time...
It is a pity European nations did not decide to have same position as for civil aircraft with Airbus balancing Boeing and sometimes beating it in some aspects ... European partnerships in the military are never successful and countries always choose US equipment instead... We had some decades to be ready and able to protect ourselves against a threat for our civilization and values as we are facing right now from diverse parts of the world ...
With proper European leaders which could have been a decent European capable force beside US ("beside" and not as vassal) but we have wasted this opportunity.
This would have been in the US advantage too to let its main partner becoming stronger and reach a more balanced role in the Western partnership. However, as often, the US prefer friendly countries acting like vassals rather like real partners because they think keeping a dependance link is more trustable for them...I think it's a strategic mistake. They made sure by several means (example available on demand) its partner does not become too strong and too independant capable while claiming in the same time he should invest more in its own defense capabilities...
Now I wonder how countries like Baltics would react if someday more and more US leaders get closer to Trump line and agree to shift from "America first" line to "America only"... (It would be by the way also a bad move from the US since current events show how much the US, alone, is struggling to cope with anti Western democratic model forces from diverse parts of the world...)
Why "Thunder BOAT" ? It's just Tonnerre, that's it's name ??? Why translate it ? And why BOAT ???
I was thinking that too. Tonnere is a proper name and shouldn't have been translated. I knew there wasn't any ship in the French Navy with that name so I searched for why it was called the Thunder Boat.
@@perfumedmanatee6235 Huh ?
If anything though should have said Mistral.
Which is going to attract more English-only speaking viewers?
'How The Revolutionary Thunder Boat Was Built'?
'How The Revolutionary Tonnere Was Built'?
The former obviously.
@@McRocket I'm pretty sure English-only speakers can understand the concept of a ship named "Tonnerre" without getting raw translation.
How that young french army guy talks is so typcaly french
The hand gestures, the moving eyes haha
Nice little invasion force de la france, très bien messieurs
Of course it's not design for "little invasion"", France have no more that kind of possibillity! It's made for a quick moblie force projection, and if we could have support from other EU forces, so it would ve been possible to build more than one....But EU is a political joke, and France stands alone to do that kind of effort!!!
@@vitalguillin1177 we have 3 of these
@@codycody4145 OK,merci, j'étais même pas au courant! je pensais que c'était deux, en fait, mais...c'est tres bien ainsi!
I'm duly impressed. Thanks for this information.
Wonderful and amazing vessel. Good example of French sophistication.
Magnificent French Engineering! ☺
Bravo au bateau, à ses marins qui le mettent en œuvre, aux ingénieurs qui l'ont conçu, à ceux qui l'ont construit et à ceux qui l'utilisent. Mais aussi félicitations au réalisateur de ce film qui permet en 50 minutes de presque tout savoir de ce magnifique "couteau suisse naval".
Ce n'est pas un bateau, c'est un navire. nuance importante.
Un navire peut avoir( transporter ) des bateaux, mais un bateau ne peut avoir des navires
I've been in a lot of ships and I say that the RMC De`Couverte was built with navy personnel in mind, because the halls and other passages are much wider and their work and living spaces less crowded.
RMC Découverte is the name of the TV Channel! ^^)))
Ship’s name Is Tonnerre
UA-cam ads are so brutal. Someone is going to get criminally charged for what they are doing.
Start with the Trump ads as the model for lying and misrepresentations. They are made to soak money out of their base and they fall for it every time.
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I was particularly happy to hear that our French friends have decided to develop a replacement for their aircraft carrier and build a new potent and larger ship that will sail the seas and keep the world order based on laws. Great news guys.... Next step is developing hypersonic missiles, from the anti ship to land attack types.. Go France, America is back and stands besides our European friends..
The hypersonic missile is already under construction same for the hypersonic plane and the 6th gen aircraft
These 3 french ships don't replace aircraft carrier.
They need to stand on their own.
@@rolandbihot7944 vraiment ? Il y a un article aujourd hui sur le succès du test à Biscarosse en partenariat avec l us navy.
I kind of feel that Spark just watched a documentary on French TV and then did their best to narrate over top of it. I find it very unlikely that any Spark staff actually visited this ship. Or even visited France.
Spark just shares documentaries, they don't create unfortunately..
@@hermes6910 yes of course ☺️☺️
well, if the French TV don't have a version in English... I suppose it's justified =)
Le Citroën du mer, tres innovatif bateu, une vrai merveille.
Plutôt un Berliet!
viva la citroen du france
This video could also be named "50m of french naval engineering kicking ass"
Why do you need to translate the vessel's name ? It's "Tonnerre", not "Thunder boat". We don't say "Le navire de sa majesté la Reine Elizabeth" instead of "HMS Queen Elizabeth", nor "Navire des Etats-Unis La Nouvelle Orléans" instead of "USS New Orleans", it would be weird.
I love the humanitarian aspects, being able to pull up to a country and help them. Every neutral country of the EU should buy one or build one.
Le Tonnerre was send to Beirut after the devastating explosion with food, an onboard extended hospital , medics, navy firemen and a specialized team with their dogs to search and rescue victims trapped under the rubble . The Tonnerre was also transporting trucks and heavy duty vehicles .
Also it's a great morale boost for French and NATO soldiers, knowing a high class hospital is an helicopter jump away in case you are wounded.
it is a helicopter carrier, with a workshop for the maintenance of these helicopters, it is also a ship for transporting military equipment, it can carry around 40 Leclerc tanks, it can transport infantrymen or evacuate civilians in the event of an emergency. disaster like a hurricane, it is a hospital comprising 2 surgical blocks, it is a command center and conventional or satellite radio transmissions, it can balester by filling tanks in order to adapt its level of buoyancy, it can carry 2 transport catamarans of 100 tons capacity each (L-CAT), it is equipped with pods and a bow thruster, which allows it to maintain its GPS position automatically! it can also stabilize itself using rudders! he even impressed the Americans who have much larger ships!
Vive la France !
@Heavy Metal God So original and funny omg
Wow! I've never seen anything like this. Go France!
Except you have - the US, Japan and Australia all operate ships like these and they're bigger as well.
@@dynamo1796guess they all have to compensate for something
@@lebigeon Yeah - the face France is rocking a 35+ year old primary fighter and an aircraft carrier half the size of the QE class.
We gotta compensate for French military shortcomings essentially.
I believe this is the same type that French built for russian navy around year 2014.
Any country that is able to build this kind of ship, prove it’s greatness.
Wow you just cancelled 193 countries who may excel in other areas.
Viva la France! I think they should investigate winch based landing systems for their landings in bad weather. It's easy to get a helicopter on deck when it's attached to a winch ;)
improving the Thunder Boat
I have a suggestion. When the catamran is going in the belly of the mothership, a mistake maybe disasterous BUT YOU CAN AVOID IT BY fixing large rubber ball berrings that rolls on the side of the Mother ship Belly. That way catamran can hit both side of the belly of the mothership and you will be alright.
I hope we are not the only ones to think of that.
What is a berring.?
Something clicked - Frogs ARE amphibious!
lmao
Amphibious and sometimes even poisonous and deadly, so watch out for frogs which often have unexpected reactions.
BRITAIN should invest in these ships for our Royal Marines
Britain has albion and bulwark
@@RR-us2kp and the three bay class.
Brit will never ever buy French military equipment for national proud reason even if it's obviously better :)
I see SH-60H's. And the Osprey. I'm a Retired US Navy Aircrewman/Rescue Swimmer. I was always impressed that we share submarine ICBM s with the UK. But only with Great Britain.
My congratulations to the producers, directors and crew who created this documentary. It is very very well done ! This was really worth the hour I spent watching it.
Whilst watching this my neck veins started popping out as I thought about David Cameron selling our HMS Ocean, she was very similar to this and now we've lost a large helicopter carrier which could take Wildcat, Apache, Merlin, Chinook helicopters or about 15 Harriers so she was a decent ship. She could also carry 830 troops, 250 crew plus the aircrew and maintenance crews as well...... she was chuffing awesome!!
HMS Ocean was in end life, Chronically engines problems, ti me for the RN to have new Class vessels
She could carry harriers but not launch them (here deck was to weak) And besides we have dedicated amphibious ships for amphibious landings that can carry also carry helicopters,not to mention our aircraft carriers are bigger so could hold more helicopters or use one aircraft carrier as a helicopter carrier.
Never mind, we have two of the most modern aircraft carriers in the world that are twice the size of the French Navy's Charles De Gaulle (which is then itself bigger than this amphibious heli carrier).
Its a good ship but nothing new. The UK used to have them, the US Marines have some and this ship is in fact smaller than the Australian Navy's flagship of the same type.
@@dynamo1796 But not nuclear aircraft carriers!👋 And we have a new one in construction, the PANG.
@@francinesicard464 France is in the same situation as the British when they designed and built the Queen Elizabeth class - build one nuclear carrier or have two conventional carriers. We sensibly opted for two carriers, the French went for one.
As they say with heirs and spares - two is one, one is none.
Great job Frog's...you've got yourselves a lovely bit of kit.
You’re welcome
The French have always been incredibly dangerous warriors. The French General Marquis Layfette liberaterated the US. But they taught us well. There is nothing like the USS Gerald Ford with a couple submarine SeaWolfs and some air defense like destroyers and Zumwalts. Lucky we are allies and have been for centuries.
I have a country because French battleships arrived
in the nick of time and opened fire.
@Gordon Freeman Mais il parle de l'indépendance Américaine 😫😣
@Gordon Freeman Your welcome , bro .
A Navy ship built for warfare. What will they think of next?
India 🇮🇳 should purchase it,
Very useful for libration of Balochistan and Sindh
Mistral-class helicopter carrier egypt have 2
Smart ship. Good Job.
It's a pretty decent ship with some excellent features and capabilities, its only flaw is it's severe lack of defensive hardware but obviously it will never be on its own in a high threat area.
travaillant aux Chantier de l'atlantique je voudrais vous dire merci pour vos commentaires./working at Chantier de l'atlantique I would like to say thank you for your comments.
Pretty darn neat. Some real out of the box thinking.
How is it out of the box thinking? USA has built 30 of these over the last 30 years? Lmao
@@procommunistdestruction2318 With the shaft less propulsion pods with 360 deg rotation?
Anchorless mooring?
Which ship is that?
I'd like to watch that video as well.
@@procommunistdestruction2318 which boat?
Les Français sont capables de produire autre chose que des parfums.
The royal navy need something like this
LHD’s are good value for money
Both Australia’s Canberra class are busy filling many tasks from humanitarian , joint exercises in Asia Pacific and port visits.
The ultimate soft power projector
Excellent as the center of an amphibious or anti submarine task force.
Our LHD’s have really strengthened out relationships in the region which is good for our alliance’s and reputation with other armed forces
Buy one to France
No, no we do not... It is the dumbest design and only good for the french to use to RUN AWAY.
@@sarahwilliams755 who run away in dunkirk
Britain does need a few lhd's but built in Britain to a british design. RN doesn't buy foreign built.
Canada almost got the two that went to Egypt, their gain, our loss.
we'd gladly build more if you want 😉
@@Lapantouflemagic0 2 please, forward the Bill to Justin Trudeau :)
Canada is strange. The Mistral, then I heard they wanted to buy new fighter jets and were interested in the Rafale and Gripen. Finally go for the F-35 and in the end they lowered the number of F-35 to buy modernized F-18. Every military decisions Canada did these last years are just really strange.
@@XR190190 That's a polite way of putting it....
Canada needs 2 , 1 for Canada and 1 for Québec 😂
It is a joke ofc
Très beau bâtiment fier de notre marine et d être français
Great to see the 316 and 341 are still in service.
I actually think it's *BETTER* than an aircraft carrier.
Different not better
@MrTherealpad It can do MORE missions
@MrTherealpad I didnt say they could do everything, I said they can do a wider variety of missions.
to fulfill successfully their missions in a contested warzone they will need airpower superiority. thats when Aircraft carrier enter the game