Super excited about this! Forget investing in the SPY when you can grab SPYI for a lower price and higher yield. 100 shares of SPY would cost about $45K and pay you about $160/quarter. 100 shares of SPYI will cost about $5k and pay $50/month!
Please clarify they write calls on spx index not individual stocks correct to get 1256 treatment ? And pair losses with gains to get roc tax treatment?
I watched the video, thanks for posting it. Unfortunately I didn't learn anything. The you didn't ask the hard questions...Why are you still running a competing fund, NUSI? How do you use the tax code to classify almost all the fund's income as Return of Capital? How do investors know the ROC is constructive....other than you saying it is? Why haven't you released a semi-annual financial statement since Nov 2022? Why don't the other major ETFs classify their income as ROC? Have you been buying calls? What is the return on that part of your strategy? What percentage of the time do they expire worthless? According to this interview...this is the perfect fund, it beats the S&P 500 without any risk or downside and is ideal for every income investor. I'm suspicious of fund managers that always refer to their fund as "the product". I can't imagine Buffett referring to Berkshire that way.
its impossible to "know" if ROC is constructive but the best sign is looking at the NAV. If its going up on top of the high monthly distributions, its constructive. How can it not be? for the tax stuff, we discussed it and they have some stuff on their website about it. for the rest: because its America and capitalism is king. Maybe they wanted to have THEIR OWN FIRM? also, i doubt they will unveil their complete strategy in detail. I wouldn't...
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting Price increase doesn't necessarily mean constructive ROC. If there's sufficient demand for a fund the price will increase. The tax discussion was just "we classify it as ROC". That doesn't explain how or why no other major covered call ETF does that. The website does not address their extensive use of ROC. Nothing wrong with starting their own firm, and they recently took over NUSI fund management from Harvest. The NEOS website doesn't mention that (not that they have to).
The manager explains ROC in the video. It's coming out of the short call positions in a rising market. The part I don't understand is where does it says SPYI is beating S&P 500? Their website shows they're behind.
Where does it show SPYI is beating the index? The neo funds website shows 15.64% for S&P 500 vs 12.90% for SPYI market price performance since inception. I'm assuming that's total return since SPYI's share price is basically flat since inception.
Hi Adrian. Just wondering if this investment is tax efficient for Canadians in a non registered account (even if the distributions are ROC and long term 60/40 tax rates for Americans) as all foreign income is taxed very inefficiently for Canadians. Some investors just have the choice of non registered account due to not enough contribution room.
90% of the distributions have been ROC. That’s OK if it’s a legitimate tax strategy….Why is SPYI the ONLY covered call ETF that distributes mostly ROC?
The ROC tax-deferral makes no sense. If this product is designed for people who need the income today, chances are they are also in lower tax brackets. They should be declaring taxable incomes in piece-meal while taxes are low, instead of deferring and accumulating to a larger tax bill later.
I believe, when you receive ROC, you don't have the OPTION to defer. ROC is a "non-taxable event," until/unless you sell OR the amount you've received as ROC equals the amount you used for purchasing the ROC-paying security.
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting the premium is not great and there is a possibility of getting executed but if you go far enough out of the money and with enough time there's not much risk.
DRIPing a covered call ETF is a very inefficient way to get growth. If you don't need the income, just buy the underlying investments for a better return.
Super excited about this! Forget investing in the SPY when you can grab SPYI for a lower price and higher yield. 100 shares of SPY would cost about $45K and pay you about $160/quarter. 100 shares of SPYI will cost about $5k and pay $50/month!
well the "price" is all relative, but yes this is a great alternative to SPY is you want income and capture some upside as well.
I have 2000 shares of SPYI and couldn't be happier!
what do you like most about SPYI?
If not from principle where does the capital thats returned come from?
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Please clarify they write calls on spx index not individual stocks correct to get 1256 treatment ? And pair losses with gains to get roc tax treatment?
Do they just hold the individual equities and sell coverd calls only on spx index and not stocks?
I watched the video, thanks for posting it. Unfortunately I didn't learn anything. The you didn't ask the hard questions...Why are you still running a competing fund, NUSI? How do you use the tax code to classify almost all the fund's income as Return of Capital? How do investors know the ROC is constructive....other than you saying it is? Why haven't you released a semi-annual financial statement since Nov 2022? Why don't the other major ETFs classify their income as ROC? Have you been buying calls? What is the return on that part of your strategy? What percentage of the time do they expire worthless? According to this interview...this is the perfect fund, it beats the S&P 500 without any risk or downside and is ideal for every income investor. I'm suspicious of fund managers that always refer to their fund as "the product". I can't imagine Buffett referring to Berkshire that way.
its impossible to "know" if ROC is constructive but the best sign is looking at the NAV. If its going up on top of the high monthly distributions, its constructive. How can it not be? for the tax stuff, we discussed it and they have some stuff on their website about it. for the rest: because its America and capitalism is king. Maybe they wanted to have THEIR OWN FIRM? also, i doubt they will unveil their complete strategy in detail. I wouldn't...
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting Price increase doesn't necessarily mean constructive ROC. If there's sufficient demand for a fund the price will increase. The tax discussion was just "we classify it as ROC". That doesn't explain how or why no other major covered call ETF does that. The website does not address their extensive use of ROC. Nothing wrong with starting their own firm, and they recently took over NUSI fund management from Harvest. The NEOS website doesn't mention that (not that they have to).
How can we find the NAV to learn if the price is below or above the NA?
The manager explains ROC in the video. It's coming out of the short call positions in a rising market. The part I don't understand is where does it says SPYI is beating S&P 500? Their website shows they're behind.
@@rOHRshackartpottery NAV is specified on their website. I believe it's updated daily.
Hi,
Is it for RRSP or TFSA account (US or CDN) ?
SPYI is a U.S. Listed ETF
How do they create the income during a down or sideways market if they can't sell the call at a higher price?
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Hopefully they buy puts, it doesn't say that on the website... But I'd imagine they do that, or the other bearish options strategies.
First. Very interested in SPYI after watching Adriano for years and watching the markets.
Where does it show SPYI is beating the index? The neo funds website shows 15.64% for S&P 500 vs 12.90% for SPYI market price performance since inception. I'm assuming that's total return since SPYI's share price is basically flat since inception.
Hi Adrian. Just wondering if this investment is tax efficient for Canadians in a non registered account (even if the distributions are ROC and long term 60/40 tax rates for Americans) as all foreign income is taxed very inefficiently for Canadians. Some investors just have the choice of non registered account due to not enough contribution room.
i would not suggest it for a non reg. there are plenty of Canadian listed funds almost identical
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting That’s what I suspected. Thank you for confirming it.
I spy with my little eye something that is passive income. Thanks Adriano!
Great video as always, can you make one on Rex IncomeMax funds new covered calls etfs?
watching them... I always like to wait until they actually come out first
90% of the distributions have been ROC. That’s OK if it’s a legitimate tax strategy….Why is SPYI the ONLY covered call ETF that distributes mostly ROC?
he explains it in the video
Thanks Adriano! Once I put more cash into my RRSP I’ll look into adding some of these as well :)
The ROC tax-deferral makes no sense. If this product is designed for people who need the income today, chances are they are also in lower tax brackets. They should be declaring taxable incomes in piece-meal while taxes are low, instead of deferring and accumulating to a larger tax bill later.
I believe, when you receive ROC, you don't have the OPTION to defer. ROC is a "non-taxable event," until/unless you sell OR the amount you've received as ROC equals the amount you used for purchasing the ROC-paying security.
I'm selling covered calls on my covered call ETFs 🤯
lol why not
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting the premium is not great and there is a possibility of getting executed but if you go far enough out of the money and with enough time there's not much risk.
Thus is good exsplain. Helps a lot 😊
97% of the distributions are ROC basically they just returning your own money every month, they don’t generate any extra income
please see my ROC videos.... (its mostly misunderstood, and you are in that category)
Thanks for the short informative video 👍
Thanks for another video!
Excellent---Thanks Adrian.
Thanks Adrian!
gee, the US govt gets downgraded to AA+ and Canadian stocks suffer as well! LOL.
DRIPing a covered call ETF is a very inefficient way to get growth. If you don't need the income, just buy the underlying investments for a better return.
They are different strategies. One is longer term growth, the other is monthly income to buy what you want. Income vs growth.
@@joinjen3854 I was responding to the video's comment about using DRIP to get growth. It's not about income vs growth, it's just growth.
if you dont need income, why are you going to work everyday?
@@PassiveIncomeInvesting Very typical of you. When cornered, change the subject.