I feel unless you have been born and raised in NZ you don’t really understand this concept. Since I was young we have learnt how to protect the native species, we found diffrent ways to protect the birds then killing the rats and stuff. We are called kiwis, we see beautiful birds daily, these birds represent us.
Oi, these USA hippies were like "why can;t you vibrate at the frequency of the possums?" and I'm like, "we tried but they kept killing our birds". They were thinking of "being one with the buffalo and the coyote" not able to imagine a mammal absent ecosystem. Americans get really upset when they hear about 1080 and stuff.
It’s sad because most the native birds to New Zealand have evolved not to fly due to no predators but when these possums and stoats were introduced there was no real way the birds can defend themselves
Growing up in New Zealand, this culture of wanting to kill these pests has been driven into my head. I never realized that other developed societies do not have this culture.
@@smolgok384 humans keep wiping not only birds but the rest of nature. Look up latest report how climate changes (caused by dumb humans incl you) is going to reduce population of bees, birds, etc.
As an Aussie, even I am concerned about the beautiful nature around my Kiwi friend's across the Tasman. Fact is, these kids won't go about and trap and kill these invasive species once they leave school, nor will they encourage others to do it. The only way to get people to start trapping and killing these species is by paying them a small amount per animal killed and dropped off at an incineration centre. I'd say $1-5 per item of vermin and you'll soon get people doing it. Imagine getting paid $50 for handing in a dozen invasive mammals at the centre. You'd rid the country of almost all the vermin within a few years..
FunkteonRecordings they did that for snakes in colonial India and for gators in Louisiana. What happened was people started capturing the animals and breeding more of them in order to cash in.
Can kids have 22lr's in New Zealand? I think sending the kits out with one of those or a good air rifle would be fine way to occupy them at times. Plus they could collect pocket money. Wish I could have been paid to pick off pigeons at the farm etc when I was a kid, I did it for free to rid the nuisance.
that's a good scam actually. makes sense because that could be tempting I suppose for some species. The pay would have to be low enough that breeding is non-viable.....
about the $ per item of vermin last time i checked it was $50 a kg for possum fur ( that 4 to 9 possums) it is a good side job for some one who like the outdoors
I take it you know nothing about New Zealand or this issue. First off the teacher is a paid government employee in a public education school providing a program designed and paid for by two NZ government departments. The Ministry of Education and the Department of Conservation (which controls about one third of the entire NZ landmass). Second almost all invasive species which are destroying the country's native flora and fauna were introduced by PRIVATE interests. Either individuals wanting to have a plant or animal which the liked and just shipped them (or in cases smuggled) and released them. There were even private clubs in the 19th century, called Acclimatisation Societies, which brought breeding stock, mainly from Britain, into the country because the felt that native species weren't "proper". The control of these pests has since the late nineteenth century has almost exclusively been organised and paid for by the NZ government.
ETAHGAL AKNAYIRP vice made sure they rounded up a good mix. "But teacher I'm your top student let me be in the video" "no you don't fit our racial aesthetic needs!"
Of course the adults are working on it. But at least they can use that event as a learning tool. The children are learning about animals, habitats, the idea of making sacrifices to make a community grow, and not being scared to be in the wilderness. Its good for them.
This lady is a legend, the idea should be to teach children while they are young that a sustainable environment is more than putting recycling in the right bin. I remember getting into a heated debate one night with social worker about whether animal population control was ethical. Largely it boiled down to whether killing large amounts of a species was ethical if it meant preserving an entire ecosystem. The go to example for population control in Australia boils down to four main creatures; non indigenous frogs/toads, camels, bush pigs and kangaroos. Three of these were easy arguments to win as the social worker couldn't understand how taking one life to save many was justifiable, but understood that frogs/toads, camels and bush pigs were a great danger to Australian ecosystems. The final one went on for about three hours with the social worker being unable to understand that the current kangaroo populations along the south eastern coast were out of control and that we had to take responsibility for it due to removing the old natural population control measures as we colonised. I still don't understand how people can advocate for the lives of animals, but get in the way of fixing issues we have created within the Australian wilderness.
It's a shame, I personally love all mammals, but humans introduced these species to an isolated environment that has no way of dealing with them - and now they have to eradicate them. It has to be done.
The irony of a human calling these animals ferocious killing machines, meanwhile tigers may not exist in 3 years because people want their meat and bones.
clarence b I really don't care what tiger babies tastes like. They are too precious to be poached. Just like that species of rhino that went extinct the other day, tigers will follow if they are not protected more. And then there will be no more tiger for anyone.
The thing is we destroy habitat, we always have. That doesn't mean we shouldn't slow it down where we can, like for instance killing stray cats and dogs. We may not like it, but it's something we caused and we have the means to fix it.
Hummingbird I don’t think you understand that in New Zealand our endemic species is some of the most special int who works as the evolved 80 million years prior and there’s no other alive like them so once they’re gone it’s not like we have a similar one or can genetically clone them, once they’re gone New Zealand’s species are gone, i’m a kiwi and New Zealand’s wild life is so threatened we’re actually moving the life off the mainland into pest free island because it’s far to dangerous for them.
Lily Jane But the fact of the matter is that we are in the middle of a mass extinction brought on by humans and species go extinct regularly. trying to rescue certain species because they're "special" won't cut it.
I absolutely love stoats, they are an amazing, admirable little predator. But, I get her point. Possums, and and stoats are amazing animals but they don't belong in new zealand so I understand why they want to get rid of them. Humans introduced them where they aren't natural which is destroying their unique population.
@Christopher Van Norden There is something like 26 million sheep in New Zealand and 6.3 million dairy cattle in New Zealand. There have been 28 recorded cases of mistaken poisonings in the last 10 years all of animals. Not all of New Zealand is readily accessible and we cant just shoot them all because of the impracticalities. We cant trap them all because we cant get the traps to them and it cant kill them fast enough by themselves (in remote areas). If we get this done now it will never need doing again.
If it's the humans fault for putting animals where their not supposed to be re-right that wrong not by killing the off for trying to survive but move them or adapt and except them
The possum was introduced in New Zealand for the use of their fur. This person is misrepresenting the possum to the children as if they are a pirate of the animal world that's 'come here' of its own accord. I think although it's a problem, people need to take responsibility for the actions of mankind and tell people the truth about why there is an overpopulation of an animal.
Some birds lost since human colonisation of NZ: The dinoornithorns (moas), a dozen species of flightless browsing ratites over 6 genera The haasts eagle and eyles harrier ,birds of prey large enough to eat children The adzebills,two large, flightless gruiiforms that may have acted like vultures The new Zealand goose (a big flightless goose) The north island takahe The laughing owl The Chatham and whatiwha penguins And many other species from anseriforms to passerines to parrots...
We did this at my school (private Christian all girls, very suburban & prissy)- we had an adventure camp/nature reserve 4 hours out of town the school used for outdoor education, life skills like cooking and budgeting as well as kayaking etc - we would go on hikes to set and clean out the traps - in under a decade they’d made it 95% pest free and counting. Walking through restored native bush in New Zealand is truly special and even as a 14 year old, as much as killing a possum seems cruel, you know that it’s restoring the land to its natural state and taking back the mistakes that were made by settlers. I don’t know why the reporter is so PC concerned about the stoats being cute etc - maybe that’s an American thing ?
Yes they should, they should learn not only the job but what it means and what it takes to keep the environment working properly before some of them turn into mentally retarded vegans who won't let humans kill these pests.
Yes, it does. Ecology is one of the most important subjects you can teach people. Our place in the natural world and the importance of maintaining nature's balance is more relevant to the average person's life than Calculus will usually be.
Myxomatosis and Calicivirus might be ugly but they have been devastatingly effective at controlling the rabbit population here. Targeted biological weapons are so dangerous to contain, but I am sure someone somewhere is working on weaponising something like Tularemia or one of its relatives.
Except they aren't. Both diseases though have massive death rates never achieve 100% kill rates. The Calicivirus introduced illegally in mid late 90s probably only got to 90% (partly due the way rural communities carried it out) it meant very quickly a quick breeding species like rabbits breeds an immunity population relatively quickly. Rabbit problem is now back a bad as it ever was. You comment about Tularemia is just terrifying. You know though it called rabbit fever, its a human affected disease, and it not really know if it would kills rabbits. What could go wrong with using a known biological warfare agent, WITH NO KNOWN VACCINE, being introduced into NZ.
Every year I go for a walk with my grampa placing traps around a place called cape kidnappers every year more stouts and possums appear around the area
"The land" does not make moral judgements, nor can it be judged by moral standards. We did not corrupt it, we just changed in in ways we have come to dislike, and now we are trying to reverse those changes.
I know this sounds weird and cult like, but as a person in their final year of nz high school this was taught to us as children so we never questioned it. In fact, I joined academic Academy in year 8 (age 12-13) we spent the whole year building traps to kill them. Now watching this I realise how weird that is, as I no longer eat meat personally. Can't believe this was a religiously taught part of our education.
Right wing extremism is when people try to apply the same logic to humans (as if different cultures of humans were like different species of animals which of course is nonsense)
This is really disturbing to be honest, hearing kids talking so casually about killing. This is fine, but in hindsight... If today they taught the kids to kill, say, something else.. I don't know. It's just wrong enough to give a very, uh, eerie feeling.
Mads Davidson And diversifying culture is always OK, no matter what cultures come in or emerge within? Bigger workforce is good when it is skilled or at least there not many things about culture that cause problems in getting those skills to people. Moreover, level of social help demands from a given group is also very important. And I am not even starting on social and political stability, attitude toward members of other groups, eagerness to use vilence if some cultural conflints emerge.
I don't think it right to teach children to kill animals like that. Instead would it not be more beneficial if the government had programs put in place to reach out to lands where these invasive animals are needed or sought after?
*+Yasser Saeed* Actually, there was a penal colony in the Marlborough Region. Or at least, it was where the toffs, or aristocratic criminals that just couldn't be tolerated by polite society in mother England, got sent too. Those that had run up big debts, or raped one too many servant girls, that sort of thing, ended up in Marlborough.
"...Possums have evolved to become predators in NZ..." This is how evolution works, if there's a niche, something will fill it. If you eliminate all of the animals that are exploiting these birds and their nests for food, another animal will come along and exploit these birds and their nests for food... It's kinda just how nature works? Even if they eliminate all of the predatory mammals, and there isn't any negative consequences, it's still only temporary at best.
Hungry Hungry Hobo Sometimes a "niche" in nature isn't filled because the ecosystem had already struck a careful balance with its species. An invasive species causing mass extinction on an island isn't accelerating the inevitable, it is needless killing biodiversity and worst case scenario, destruction of an entire ecosystem. If the land birds populations were already kept in check by the native predators, letting invasive species run their course would massively disrupt those birds and every species above it on the food chain/pyramid.
That's the lovely thing about homeostasis, nature knows how to keep and restore the balance. If these mammals over-hunt their prey, they will struggle to find food sources and die off, causing the preys population to boom. Then the predators population grows, which lowers their preys, so on and so forth, until equilibrium is established. I'm just saying, this is a matter of time. If you have a massive amount of resources (food in this case) not being exploited, something WILL come along and exploit them. That might be a foreign species, or it could be a local one that's adapted to take advantage of the situation it is in. This is what living things do, they find a way to survive, at the expense of other living things.
Hungry Hungry Hobo But the ecosystem was already at homeostasis for, I'm kind of reaching here, millions of years. All the population checks you brought up were already there before the introduction of invasive species. The native species should be allowed to evolve with each other because it is less of a shock to the ecosystem. Possums and stotes may "fill a niche", but it's the equivalent of dropping a bomb on a ship. Perhaps it will continue sailing but with fewer functional parts. The worst possibility is that homeostasis is reached only after many species go entirely extinct, both the predators and the prey.
Well to be fair, the invasive species that's causing all of this strife, is us. Would you advocate for our removal? The old homeostasis, is broken, we broke it. Now it's a matter of letting nature find a new balance. Even if they eliminated every single offending mammal tomorrow, new invaders will find their way in on boats, planes, etc. If even one mouse/rat/possum lands in NZ, and is naturally unopposed, they will take off. It's an unrealistic goal from the get-go to just say 'we'll get rid of them all' As long as humans are around, the animals that have learned to live off of us will follow.
Hungry Hungry Hobo Not advocating removal, but humans are gonna have to lessen their environmental impact. Not doing so will result in a far reduced quality of life (climate change and ecological damage is no good). And at around 5:00 in the video, the man says total eradication seems unrealistic but it should be feasible to keep the problem species population low enough that it will not impact biodiversity.
Actually there's numerous evidence to suggest the Moari are also not indegenous to New Zealand and had instead eaten their way through a 3 course meal of fair skinned natives, like they did with the Moriori.
Anbyrdnes My Maori teacher at school actually taught me this; the Maori originally came from a pacific island, is unknown which one but there are 3 theories, personally i believe they came from Rarotonga as they’ve got a story about 7 canoe (waka) leaving the island to find a new and when Maori came to NZ there were 7 main tribes at first from 7 Waka, at least that’s what my Maori teacher taught me when learning the language.
I would just like to point our that the Pakeha, who colonised NZ were not refugees, they were migrants, there is a big difference. My ancestors were not, as a rule, running from anything, they left the shores of Britian because they chose to, not because they would be killed if they stayed.
Liz Damien II I'm Mexican but I might have to deal with retards like him since my fiance is in the US (I lived there for two years left because family reasons)
48162342 I mean most people aren't and Trump hasn't done anything inherently evil so you don't have much to complain about I'm Mexican and I'm not complaining about every single little thing he says I actually support many of his ideas.
He hasn't done anything wrong? What are you brain-dead or something? He continues to attack and belittle everyone who doesn't agree with him when he is supposed to work for EVERYONE in the states. He is profiting off the hard work Obama put over the years even after the republicans tried their best to annul everything. He plays more golf than he even steps into the oval office, costing the public millions of dollars. Then he cheats on his wife, rapes women, continuously commits treason to the US, grows his business on the side while making staff and foreign government members stay at this ugly hotels. And these are only a few......your passive attitude is the reason why there is a serious problem in the world.
I'm from Auckland and I never thought that our country would ever make it onto Vice News. I'm sad and happy. I'm happy that the rest of the world knows of our existence. I'm sad because I never thought that our country was bad.
This is not work of nature. Ever heard of "Invasive Species"? They're accidentaly transported or somehow released into land where they does not fit into and then they invade habitat of native species which lead to this kind of situation. So, this mean that *nature won't work and can't work itself out* and we need to fix this. The native species will be killed.
Even these "native species" as you call them long ago came from somewhere else then evolved due to the isolation, so if these animals now took over eventually they too should evolve into new and different subspecies. So yes I say let nature work it out, because only it can.
Humans got rid of all the cool nz animals like megalania, moa, haast eagle.. but if any other mamal does it its somehow evil.. in my opinion these flightless birds just suck at living the lack of predation turned them into unimpressive weak shadows of what they once were set up to fail. If a wild animal cant survive w/o human help it is basicaly a pet.
@@4doorsmorewhores298 Tell me you are bad at reading without telling me you are bad at reading? And if he had actually made the error you mis-read, would it even have changed his point? Did you basically just agree with the substance and focus in on one word you thought he wrote?
New Zealand have the most diverse endemic species because while the world was still all one land mass New Zealand broke off 80 million years earlier, this means we’ve got life other countries don’t have. the sad thing is literally nearly all of our endemic species are dying out, majority are borderline extinction from the kauri trees to maui dolphin and then to kakapo.
Your wording about the origins of invasive animals is kind of misleading. It wasn’t the humans as a whole, it was just the immigrants (e.g. Europeans, Chinese) back in the eighteenth century and later when Australia was formally discovered by the British. This is because the aboriginals already lived on the land and predated he British by around 45,000 years. I was just a little ticked by it, don’t mind this comment too much.
Everyone talking about irony doesn't get it. If weasels or stoats weighed even 40 pounds everything would be dead. Those lil fuckers are cute, but they are killing machines.
In US Starlings were actually imported into the country, ON PURPOSE. Now they have bred and taken over huge areas that squeeze out our beautiful song birds. Yes, they eat lots of pests that benefit agriculture, but they have over populated are noisy and messy.
Yeah unfortunately thats how most of our pests got here: possums were introduced to start a fur trade but unfortunately things got out of hand rather quickly
Teaching children how to kill species?!?!? What about when they are in thier adulthood?Endangered to extinction and later regret doing it.It's my opinion
"these guys do not belong, do they? so they've got to go".. doesn't she realize the european settlers' descent like her and her studs can also be considered invasive species?😂 however i do agree they should get rid of the predators
I feel unless you have been born and raised in NZ you don’t really understand this concept. Since I was young we have learnt how to protect the native species, we found diffrent ways to protect the birds then killing the rats and stuff. We are called kiwis, we see beautiful birds daily, these birds represent us.
Oi, these USA hippies were like "why can;t you vibrate at the frequency of the possums?" and I'm like, "we tried but they kept killing our birds". They were thinking of "being one with the buffalo and the coyote" not able to imagine a mammal absent ecosystem. Americans get really upset when they hear about 1080 and stuff.
@@jesseward568 we're not all like that. But yeah a lot of my country men have no idea what an "invasive species" is.
@@jesseward568 "The usa hippies" I'm just laughing because you guys teach pest control the same way America teaches racism & xenophobia
You're right when I was little I learnt to kill pests
Wow so you guys are just like ok let’s kill all the rats and possums because WE only like birds. Smh if that’s not discrimination
It’s sad because most the native birds to New Zealand have evolved not to fly due to no predators but when these possums and stoats were introduced there was no real way the birds can defend themselves
so you are saying they used to fly before they "evolved" to not being able to?
I've read that one species of wren in NZ was exterminated by a single cat 'cause it's flightless.
Simbarashe Kunedzimwe frankly yes
@@thethruthchannel yes
the thumbnail makes it look like they just caught a blonde white boy
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Subliminal messaging.
Hahaha I noticed that
I was actually looking for this comment
stereomike111 DIVERSITY!
Should also get children make sure there cat's stay indoors. Cat's kill so many native birds.
Vicky Mc you probably saw that on facebook fool lol
Cats are horrible for the enviornment, its such a shame that they make such adorable pets
Vicky Mc
*maintain bird population
Cats rule the world though lol
cats do vicky... they are responsible for millions of birds in straya alone
Growing up in New Zealand, this culture of wanting to kill these pests has been driven into my head. I never realized that other developed societies do not have this culture.
Other countries don't have 80% of their endemic species threatened by extinction.
right? gives me a laugh seeing people saying “oh it must be so traumatising for the children!!” like.. no it’s not
yeah, you just keep your psychotic children in NZ please))
@@smolgok384 humans keep wiping not only birds but the rest of nature. Look up latest report how climate changes (caused by dumb humans incl you) is going to reduce population of bees, birds, etc.
Omg kiwi accents are one of the most wholesome sounds in existence.
As an Aussie, even I am concerned about the beautiful nature around my Kiwi friend's across the Tasman. Fact is, these kids won't go about and trap and kill these invasive species once they leave school, nor will they encourage others to do it. The only way to get people to start trapping and killing these species is by paying them a small amount per animal killed and dropped off at an incineration centre. I'd say $1-5 per item of vermin and you'll soon get people doing it. Imagine getting paid $50 for handing in a dozen invasive mammals at the centre. You'd rid the country of almost all the vermin within a few years..
FunkteonRecordings they did that for snakes in colonial India and for gators in Louisiana. What happened was people started capturing the animals and breeding more of them in order to cash in.
Can kids have 22lr's in New Zealand? I think sending the kits out with one of those or a good air rifle would be fine way to occupy them at times. Plus they could collect pocket money. Wish I could have been paid to pick off pigeons at the farm etc when I was a kid, I did it for free to rid the nuisance.
that's a good scam actually. makes sense because that could be tempting I suppose for some species. The pay would have to be low enough that breeding is non-viable.....
You can sell possum fur if you kill it
about the $ per item of vermin last time i checked it was $50 a kg for possum fur ( that 4 to 9 possums) it is a good side job for some one who like the outdoors
Humans are the ultimate invasive mammal
Guybrush Threepwood That makes no sense.
Guybrush Threepwood Who hurt you?
But LeChuck is dead
Were technically Apex predators. But true. Its mainly capitalism tho, so very rich/selfifh humans arebthe most invasive.
A Nigga With A Rocket Launcher What doesn't make sense?
Just because it's "cute" doesn't mean it's "good".
When govt fail,kids have to take responsibility
Abhay Singh *whispers U.S.
Actually alot of these initiatives are NZ government run
Abhay Singh Dude I see you on Vox videos too you're everywhere
I take it you know nothing about New Zealand or this issue. First off the teacher is a paid government employee in a public education school providing a program designed and paid for by two NZ government departments. The Ministry of Education and the Department of Conservation (which controls about one third of the entire NZ landmass).
Second almost all invasive species which are destroying the country's native flora and fauna were introduced by PRIVATE interests. Either individuals wanting to have a plant or animal which the liked and just shipped them (or in cases smuggled) and released them. There were even private clubs in the 19th century, called Acclimatisation Societies, which brought breeding stock, mainly from Britain, into the country because the felt that native species weren't "proper".
The control of these pests has since the late nineteenth century has almost exclusively been organised and paid for by the NZ government.
Majime how do u know he's french? and what does that have to do w/this video or comment thread?
Bizzare indeed. It feel right and wrong at the same time!
supernpstr these birds didn't evolve. So they gotta go
aatechca i guess thats darvinism for you.
Erik Ruiz in our little primate brain perhaps
they evolved to not need to worry about mammals as they were the dominant species, so their wings grew smaller and their bones thicker.
aatechca they did evolve, without preditors. humans introduced these mammals so we should get rid of them.
I like the diversity of New Zealand...
Indians, Chinese, American, European, African and Weird Haircut!
Come to Canada its the same.
ETAHGAL AKNAYIRP vice made sure they rounded up a good mix. "But teacher I'm your top student let me be in the video" "no you don't fit our racial aesthetic needs!"
time to deliver a pizza ball
Hmmm...... Interesting..!
So progressive
no, we don't. there are hoards of asians that set up their own communities and refuse to learn or speak english.
What a beautiful childhood these kids have
TheHornet79 Right why not leave it to adults?
Of course the adults are working on it. But at least they can use that event as a learning tool. The children are learning about animals, habitats, the idea of making sacrifices to make a community grow, and not being scared to be in the wilderness. Its good for them.
Its really cool they have an environmental studies teacher at such a young age.
I wonder why these kids have beautiful childhoods? Interesting that some of the happiest cultures have one major thing in common.
New Zealand is one of the best places in the world to grow up.
This lady is a legend, the idea should be to teach children while they are young that a sustainable environment is more than putting recycling in the right bin. I remember getting into a heated debate one night with social worker about whether animal population control was ethical. Largely it boiled down to whether killing large amounts of a species was ethical if it meant preserving an entire ecosystem.
The go to example for population control in Australia boils down to four main creatures; non indigenous frogs/toads, camels, bush pigs and kangaroos. Three of these were easy arguments to win as the social worker couldn't understand how taking one life to save many was justifiable, but understood that frogs/toads, camels and bush pigs were a great danger to Australian ecosystems. The final one went on for about three hours with the social worker being unable to understand that the current kangaroo populations along the south eastern coast were out of control and that we had to take responsibility for it due to removing the old natural population control measures as we colonised.
I still don't understand how people can advocate for the lives of animals, but get in the way of fixing issues we have created within the Australian wilderness.
Never expected my old primary school would ever be on a VICE.
Cool
Same
one of my friends went there
It's nice to see these kids learning how to protect and conserve wildlife.
SAVE THE KIWIS !!!!!!!
Grey Garcia nah let's kill them
@@ABEL-cd2spwhy it’s a our native animal
The reporter and the teacher scissored after the interview.
they bumbed clams
Haha......
Oxygen what's wrong with you
chaiki jeremy, nothing. My mummy always told me that I am very special.
Oxygen I kinda know why she's saying that....
It's a shame, I personally love all mammals, but humans introduced these species to an isolated environment that has no way of dealing with them - and now they have to eradicate them. It has to be done.
basically most pacific islands have at least one invasive species, thats why hawaii banned snakes as pets here.
The irony of a human calling these animals ferocious killing machines, meanwhile tigers may not exist in 3 years because people want their meat and bones.
Hummingbird but they’re tasty
clarence b I really don't care what tiger babies tastes like. They are too precious to be poached. Just like that species of rhino that went extinct the other day, tigers will follow if they are not protected more. And then there will be no more tiger for anyone.
The thing is we destroy habitat, we always have.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't slow it down where we can, like for instance killing stray cats and dogs. We may not like it, but it's something we caused and we have the means to fix it.
Hummingbird I don’t think you understand that in New Zealand our endemic species is some of the most special int who works as the evolved 80 million years prior and there’s no other alive like them so once they’re gone it’s not like we have a similar one or can genetically clone them, once they’re gone New Zealand’s species are gone, i’m a kiwi and New Zealand’s wild life is so threatened we’re actually moving the life off the mainland into pest free island because it’s far to dangerous for them.
Lily Jane But the fact of the matter is that we are in the middle of a mass extinction brought on by humans and species go extinct regularly. trying to rescue certain species because they're "special" won't cut it.
So put on your boots...
ITS WEASEL STOMPING DAY!
It's tradition, that makes it okay!
That was a good one. 10000000000000000000000000000 BONUS POINTS!!!!!
10 points for the head!
I absolutely love stoats, they are an amazing, admirable little predator. But, I get her point. Possums, and and stoats are amazing animals but they don't belong in new zealand so I understand why they want to get rid of them. Humans introduced them where they aren't natural which is destroying their unique population.
@Christopher Van Norden There is something like 26 million sheep in New Zealand and 6.3 million dairy cattle in New Zealand. There have been 28 recorded cases of mistaken poisonings in the last 10 years all of animals. Not all of New Zealand is readily accessible and we cant just shoot them all because of the impracticalities. We cant trap them all because we cant get the traps to them and it cant kill them fast enough by themselves (in remote areas). If we get this done now it will never need doing again.
If it's the humans fault for putting animals where their not supposed to be re-right that wrong not by killing the off for trying to survive but move them or adapt and except them
The possum was introduced in New Zealand for the use of their fur. This person is misrepresenting the possum to the children as if they are a pirate of the animal world that's 'come here' of its own accord. I think although it's a problem, people need to take responsibility for the actions of mankind and tell people the truth about why there is an overpopulation of an animal.
Imagine trying to explain the fur trade to a 7 year old
YOU'RE RIGHT
its kinda wierd to watch how easy it is to teach kids to kill things
Some birds lost since human colonisation of NZ:
The dinoornithorns (moas), a dozen species of flightless browsing ratites over 6 genera
The haasts eagle and eyles harrier ,birds of prey large enough to eat children
The adzebills,two large, flightless gruiiforms that may have acted like vultures
The new Zealand goose (a big flightless goose)
The north island takahe
The laughing owl
The Chatham and whatiwha penguins
And many other species from anseriforms to passerines to parrots...
This is the correct approach for invasive species
Good luck with that New Zealand, you're going to need it. Just trying to get rid of the rats would be a helluva feather in your cap.
What about us humans being super invasive mammals, destroying the whole ecosystem of the world,
Plot Twist: Humans are the WORST invasive mammals in NZ
True, they came to an island with some Australian (I think) animal for their fur but they loosed control of them and now they are invasive
We did this at my school (private Christian all girls, very suburban & prissy)- we had an adventure camp/nature reserve 4 hours out of town the school used for outdoor education, life skills like cooking and budgeting as well as kayaking etc - we would go on hikes to set and clean out the traps - in under a decade they’d made it 95% pest free and counting. Walking through restored native bush in New Zealand is truly special and even as a 14 year old, as much as killing a possum seems cruel, you know that it’s restoring the land to its natural state and taking back the mistakes that were made by settlers. I don’t know why the reporter is so PC concerned about the stoats being cute etc - maybe that’s an American thing ?
You probably shouldn’t try and get Australia to help, considering they lost a war against emus
remember when the Australians had a war against the emus and lost even though they used machine guns
I don't disagree with the end goal, but does this _really_ belong in primary school education??
Good pocket money for kids.I used to think I was a millionaire catching possums good eating too.
Yes they should, they should learn not only the job but what it means and what it takes to keep the environment working properly before some of them turn into mentally retarded vegans who won't let humans kill these pests.
Yes
If not primary, when? Later education has to prepare you for the world and beyond, primary school is the best time for civics.
Yes, it does. Ecology is one of the most important subjects you can teach people. Our place in the natural world and the importance of maintaining nature's balance is more relevant to the average person's life than Calculus will usually be.
it's too bad these invasive animals have to pay the price for the stupid humans that brought them there in the first place.
Myxomatosis and Calicivirus might be ugly but they have been devastatingly effective at controlling the rabbit population here. Targeted biological weapons are so dangerous to contain, but I am sure someone somewhere is working on weaponising something like Tularemia or one of its relatives.
Mark Harvey with small predators like stoats it would be something like the parvo virus which would also affect domestic dogs and cats.
Except they aren't. Both diseases though have massive death rates never achieve 100% kill rates. The Calicivirus introduced illegally in mid late 90s probably only got to 90% (partly due the way rural communities carried it out) it meant very quickly a quick breeding species like rabbits breeds an immunity population relatively quickly.
Rabbit problem is now back a bad as it ever was.
You comment about Tularemia is just terrifying. You know though it called rabbit fever, its a human affected disease, and it not really know if it would kills rabbits. What could go wrong with using a known biological warfare agent, WITH NO KNOWN VACCINE, being introduced into NZ.
Every year I go for a walk with my grampa placing traps around a place called cape kidnappers every year more stouts and possums appear around the area
Finally something by Vice I approve of. Wherever you live, research what detrimental invasives are in your area and go after them.
you mean yourself? humans are worst parasites and most invasive.
You know, this is actually humans fault TBH. Animals are just animals, do what animals do to survive.
I love how man corrupts the land, then when man tries to fix the problems everybody gets mad.
Jv I love the euphimism you use for mass killing. You live in Africa? If not I suggest migrating, better yet www.vhemt.org/
"The land" does not make moral judgements, nor can it be judged by moral standards. We did not corrupt it, we just changed in in ways we have come to dislike, and now we are trying to reverse those changes.
go learn what "corrupt" means.
@@alexanderstraight2604 Reddit level philosophy lmao
I know this sounds weird and cult like, but as a person in their final year of nz high school this was taught to us as children so we never questioned it. In fact, I joined academic Academy in year 8 (age 12-13) we spent the whole year building traps to kill them. Now watching this I realise how weird that is, as I no longer eat meat personally. Can't believe this was a religiously taught part of our education.
Oh would you rather all of your bird die out? In the end we need to fix our ancestors mistakes.
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Kurai Sekai haha lol, they look different than what I am comfortable with, so weird!
Does it matter what they look like?! This video is about killing rodents not their haircuts.
its like they all met up on instagram and decided to do a piece in new zealand
They must be lesbians
Never knew what compelled a woman to wake up one day and say "I want to be ugly and unattractive from now on, I think I'll cut all my hair off today"
Love it !!! Thanks fr doing this!!
Without context this sounds a lot like right wing extremism lol
It still does to me.
American leftist must be so fucked that they think everything is political or right wing.
Right wing extremism is when people try to apply the same logic to humans (as if different cultures of humans were like different species of animals which of course is nonsense)
Or far left
yeah the hippies were crazy in the states when i told them about this
Just a reminder that the greatest bird of New Zealand - the magnificent Moa went extinct because of... Maori hunting.
You act like the damn thing was a member of your family. 😂
Cruel but if it's for there survival then do whats necessary.
thumbnail feels like two Chinese/Japanese kids and two indian kids caught a white boy..
0:53 edgy kid
How about the humans who are not native to NZ. Humans are always after the poor animals. Let them live and change the environment as humans did
Stup!dest thing I’ve heard in my life. So basically wipe out over a million unique species for a bunch of mammals found elsewhere?
They are getting ready the next generation of rugby players.
Of course we are, we need to beat the Wallabies!
I had a friend who did this in NZ, said he'd trip balls for days and hunt possums. he made it sound cooler than this
Quinn McTiernan 😂😂😂😂
This is really disturbing to be honest, hearing kids talking so casually about killing. This is fine, but in hindsight... If today they taught the kids to kill, say, something else.. I don't know. It's just wrong enough to give a very, uh, eerie feeling.
Not my Kiwis. What am i supposed to make fun of if they all die?
New Zealand has got to be the most fragile ecosystem in existence, next to that of Australia.
I’ve been doing the same thing with starlings and different bugs, it’s a loosing battle but it’s brought me many feathers so it’s a win
Make a piece on how Germany took in millions of refugees and how that will effect us in the future.
Ufstermonster111 Kocker1 they have.
Ufstermonster111 Kocker1 - AFFECT*
Diversify culture, bigger work force and saving innocent people. Good from my point of view.
unless they are integrated into german culture and made into citizen then youd get a massive workforce for the economy.
Mads Davidson And diversifying culture is always OK, no matter what cultures come in or emerge within? Bigger workforce is good when it is skilled or at least there not many things about culture that cause problems in getting those skills to people. Moreover, level of social help demands from a given group is also very important.
And I am not even starting on social and political stability, attitude toward members of other groups, eagerness to use vilence if some cultural conflints emerge.
the animals that got there where on the boats with the non native people... does that mean that no indigenous peoples are going aswell?
I wish them the best of luck over there! :)
I don't think it right to teach children to kill animals like that. Instead would it not be more beneficial if the government had programs put in place to reach out to lands where these invasive animals are needed or sought after?
They have. They are. If younger generations don't get behind it I don't doubt that most of our native birds will die off by the late 21st century.
They should introduce the predators that feed on other ones!
Aryan Zagros I do like me a reverse-turtles all the way down, scenario.
20 years down the line i want to hear about new Zealand grizzly bear problem
They tried to do that in Maui, it ended poorly.
Aryan Zagros they’ve tried once it didn’t go well.
Thats how ferrets and stuff got here originally, we got them to kill the rabbits but then the ferrets went haywire.
this is sick. teaching them animal cruelty. they'll never rid them all. why don't they get rid of invasive humans.
it's not really "animal cruelty"
Ya' know what's animal cruelty? Leaving things alone so that all our unique native birds disappear.
Kiwi are so mental 😂
Penal Colony
we’re not, we just care about our native wildlife.
Bok you're think of Australia. NZ has never been a penal colony
*+Yasser Saeed*
Actually, there was a penal colony in the Marlborough Region. Or at least, it was where the toffs, or aristocratic criminals that just couldn't be tolerated by polite society in mother England, got sent too. Those that had run up big debts, or raped one too many servant girls, that sort of thing, ended up in Marlborough.
Mental or Meentaal.
When they said all the animals were a killing machine,they are just didn't realize that they are going to force extinction an certain type of animal.
Kind of ironic seeing a bunch of white kids talking about invasive species in New Zealand.
britshell Don't be that guy.....
TJ, Did you just assume my gender ?!
It is ironic though.
would you also say the same about Maori kids since ancestors killed and ate the previous indigenous settlers? please...
People in general. The people of Australia and New Zealand weren't introduced of their own free will, and if you knew history you'd understand that.
Train the *Kea birds to catch rats :-)*
Good for native wildlife = great for tourism. Nobody will come to see rats in NZ :-)
"...Possums have evolved to become predators in NZ..."
This is how evolution works, if there's a niche, something will fill it. If you eliminate all of the animals that are exploiting these birds and their nests for food, another animal will come along and exploit these birds and their nests for food... It's kinda just how nature works?
Even if they eliminate all of the predatory mammals, and there isn't any negative consequences, it's still only temporary at best.
Hungry Hungry Hobo Sometimes a "niche" in nature isn't filled because the ecosystem had already struck a careful balance with its species. An invasive species causing mass extinction on an island isn't accelerating the inevitable, it is needless killing biodiversity and worst case scenario, destruction of an entire ecosystem. If the land birds populations were already kept in check by the native predators, letting invasive species run their course would massively disrupt those birds and every species above it on the food chain/pyramid.
That's the lovely thing about homeostasis, nature knows how to keep and restore the balance.
If these mammals over-hunt their prey, they will struggle to find food sources and die off, causing the preys population to boom. Then the predators population grows, which lowers their preys, so on and so forth, until equilibrium is established.
I'm just saying, this is a matter of time. If you have a massive amount of resources (food in this case) not being exploited, something WILL come along and exploit them. That might be a foreign species, or it could be a local one that's adapted to take advantage of the situation it is in. This is what living things do, they find a way to survive, at the expense of other living things.
Hungry Hungry Hobo But the ecosystem was already at homeostasis for, I'm kind of reaching here, millions of years. All the population checks you brought up were already there before the introduction of invasive species. The native species should be allowed to evolve with each other because it is less of a shock to the ecosystem. Possums and stotes may "fill a niche", but it's the equivalent of dropping a bomb on a ship. Perhaps it will continue sailing but with fewer functional parts.
The worst possibility is that homeostasis is reached only after many species go entirely extinct, both the predators and the prey.
Well to be fair, the invasive species that's causing all of this strife, is us.
Would you advocate for our removal?
The old homeostasis, is broken, we broke it.
Now it's a matter of letting nature find a new balance. Even if they eliminated every single offending mammal tomorrow, new invaders will find their way in on boats, planes, etc.
If even one mouse/rat/possum lands in NZ, and is naturally unopposed, they will take off. It's an unrealistic goal from the get-go to just say 'we'll get rid of them all'
As long as humans are around, the animals that have learned to live off of us will follow.
Hungry Hungry Hobo Not advocating removal, but humans are gonna have to lessen their environmental impact. Not doing so will result in a far reduced quality of life (climate change and ecological damage is no good).
And at around 5:00 in the video, the man says total eradication seems unrealistic but it should be feasible to keep the problem species population low enough that it will not impact biodiversity.
The teacher's choice of qords with these small children was slightly unnerving at 0:37
New Zealand’s invasive mammals include white people.
Take your refugee selves back to Europe.
Actually there's numerous evidence to suggest the Moari are also not indegenous to New Zealand and had instead eaten their way through a 3 course meal of fair skinned natives, like they did with the Moriori.
Anbyrdnes My Maori teacher at school actually taught me this; the Maori originally came from a pacific island, is unknown which one but there are 3 theories, personally i believe they came from Rarotonga as they’ve got a story about 7 canoe (waka) leaving the island to find a new and when Maori came to NZ there were 7 main tribes at first from 7 Waka, at least that’s what my Maori teacher taught me when learning the language.
Actually all humans.
I would just like to point our that the Pakeha, who colonised NZ were not refugees, they were migrants, there is a big difference.
My ancestors were not, as a rule, running from anything, they left the shores of Britian because they chose to, not because they would be killed if they stayed.
Yep and take back the steel and ships fishing rods anything that's not natural to the Native people's so y'all back to sticks and stones enjoy
I would suggest that the posters should read NOT WANTED rather than WANTED
Same problem in the US.....Trump supporters.
48162342 Still crying over an election I see. (Sigh) At least I'm European so I don't have to deal with people like you.
Liz Damien II I'm Mexican but I might have to deal with retards like him since my fiance is in the US (I lived there for two years left because family reasons)
No one needs to cry to realize how mentally unstable trump and his supporters are....
48162342 I mean most people aren't and Trump hasn't done anything inherently evil so you don't have much to complain about I'm Mexican and I'm not complaining about every single little thing he says I actually support many of his ideas.
He hasn't done anything wrong? What are you brain-dead or something? He continues to attack and belittle everyone who doesn't agree with him when he is supposed to work for EVERYONE in the states. He is profiting off the hard work Obama put over the years even after the republicans tried their best to annul everything. He plays more golf than he even steps into the oval office, costing the public millions of dollars. Then he cheats on his wife, rapes women, continuously commits treason to the US, grows his business on the side while making staff and foreign government members stay at this ugly hotels. And these are only a few......your passive attitude is the reason why there is a serious problem in the world.
I'm from Auckland and I never thought that our country would ever make it onto Vice News. I'm sad and happy. I'm happy that the rest of the world knows of our existence. I'm sad because I never thought that our country was bad.
???? why is new zealand bad?
Aucklanders at it again.
Not sure that protecting eco systems is a bad thing.
Another example of humans thinking of them above nature
*Paradoxical*
Prakhar Pandey Actually those invasive species were brought to NZ by humans.
humans are the apex predator, our job is too keep populations in check by killing
Humans are the most inteligence species. We can control our own destiny. We are the top of the food chain.
Am from NZ, this is us corrected a human-made mistake, not slaughtering needlessly.
LostStudent nothing wrong with correcting our mistakes as humans it's our responsibility
@vice why didn‘t you talk about the use of 1080 at all?
Dike on dike action.
Beef Curtain Slapathon.
*DinkleBerg* 😾
Scissor me timbers!
the 304 dislikes are from Aussies who like the bloody possums
Seems like a bad idea, humans are non native to NZ too you know. Let nature work it out.
This is not work of nature. Ever heard of "Invasive Species"? They're accidentaly transported or somehow released into land where they does not fit into and then they invade habitat of native species which lead to this kind of situation. So, this mean that *nature won't work and can't work itself out* and we need to fix this. The native species will be killed.
Nathan Powers Say that to the Maori's.
Even these "native species" as you call them long ago came from somewhere else then evolved due to the isolation, so if these animals now took over eventually they too should evolve into new and different subspecies. So yes I say let nature work it out, because only it can.
Hope I don't die until I see a possum turn into a kiwi.
I’m glad you’re not in charge
We have a similar problem in my country and the local Goverment pay you 6€ per kill. People do it like fishing.
Humans got rid of all the cool nz animals like megalania, moa, haast eagle.. but if any other mamal does it its somehow evil.. in my opinion these flightless birds just suck at living the lack of predation turned them into unimpressive weak shadows of what they once were set up to fail. If a wild animal cant survive w/o human help it is basicaly a pet.
Those aren't mammals lol. A moa is a bird, same with the others except the megalania
@@4doorsmorewhores298 Tell me you are bad at reading without telling me you are bad at reading? And if he had actually made the error you mis-read, would it even have changed his point? Did you basically just agree with the substance and focus in on one word you thought he wrote?
Megalania was not in NZ...
Yeah, and now humans are indirectly responsible for the endangerment of other amazing animals in New Zealand via introducing invasive species
Christine is very honest, appreciate it.
New Zealand have the most diverse endemic species because while the world was still all one land mass New Zealand broke off 80 million years earlier, this means we’ve got life other countries don’t have. the sad thing is literally nearly all of our endemic species are dying out, majority are borderline extinction from the kauri trees to maui dolphin and then to kakapo.
Bring predatory birds like hawks or others or even parrots as they can eat or kill rats
We have nx falcon and the hairier hawk and ruru aka more pork (a native nz owl ) and lots more birds like that
Most of Aotearoa's native birds are flightless I can easily see them being a source of food for hawks
Your wording about the origins of invasive animals is kind of misleading. It wasn’t the humans as a whole, it was just the immigrants (e.g. Europeans, Chinese) back in the eighteenth century and later when Australia was formally discovered by the British. This is because the aboriginals already lived on the land and predated he British by around 45,000 years.
I was just a little ticked by it, don’t mind this comment too much.
Lol why r u making it a big deal we dont need the fuckin possums litterally all we have is birds thats literally are nicknames
I live in Crofton downs and we were the first predator free community in NZ. Auckland has done jack
If a teacher did this in the USA, they wouldn't be a teacher the next day.
If the birds had guns, this would not have happened
Just export the invasive mammals . They're in high demand as exotic pets
no its illegal and dangerous. Over 98% of all pets are captive bred. Wild caught is bad for the animals and the humans
I wish we had this much awareness in Canada.
You can really tell the accent difference aye?
I feel like aliens will think the same about us and try to exterminate us if they ever wanted to use earth.
Everyone talking about irony doesn't get it. If weasels or stoats weighed even 40 pounds everything would be dead. Those lil fuckers are cute, but they are killing machines.
Lol how Ironic an invasive species killing an invasive species
In US Starlings were actually imported into the country, ON PURPOSE. Now they have bred and taken over huge areas that squeeze out our beautiful song birds. Yes, they eat lots of pests that benefit agriculture, but they have over populated are noisy and messy.
Yeah unfortunately thats how most of our pests got here: possums were introduced to start a fur trade but unfortunately things got out of hand rather quickly
Hypocritical your squirrel and mink arrived in the Uk and cause sooo many problems
that's how hate is created in child's mind. Replace possum with anything you want.
this is slightly unsettling
Imagine these kids when they grow up.. "lol yea I had a teacher that made me kill rodents"
Teaching children how to kill species?!?!? What about when they are in thier adulthood?Endangered to extinction and later regret doing it.It's my opinion
I will cry so much if kiwis or kakapos went extinct
"these guys do not belong, do they? so they've got to go".. doesn't she realize the european settlers' descent like her and her studs can also be considered invasive species?😂
however i do agree they should get rid of the predators
Vincent Ivan Tanaya What u saying white man make my life better then running in the bush killing other maoris