Dude! I am so glad i ran across this video! I had been waiting for the newer chipset, now i find out its not really NEW at all! Wow, now I just need to decide whether i need USB 4 or not, probably not
Honestly, thank you so much. Subbed. I greatly appreciate the details, comparisons, and examples. You're getting a lot of love in the comments for a reason. I got screwed on my previous build by not knowing the lane compromises I was making, and once I started using every expansion slot, I really noticed. Thank you again, keep it up!
There is another difference mentioned by another youtuber, he mentioned that in this generation, the USB4 is not part of the CPU controller but is made with an Asmedia chipset which is probably ASM4242, but this does make a difference, because the CPU does not need to be taxed with the USB4
Any X870 and X870E has the ASM4242 as explained in several of my videos. For the previous X670E and B650E that offered USB4 it was using the older JHL8540 as also explained in my other videos.
Thank you very much for this vid. It was very informative. Tbh, the ending really dug deep, man. I have never heard someone repeat Jensen so beautifully. I was going to do a modest $1,500 dollar build. Now, I'll grab a Godlike mobo, a pair of 4090s running in SLI, a 7950x3d, and 128gb of ram. You've been a true inspiration.
I’lo probably wait for everything to mature, but considering upgrading x670e to x870e for the usb4 since my 4090 covers up my pcie slots, so having usb4 would be nice.
One of my main criterias was USB4 support and I was looking at the Asus ProArt 670e because it had a dual pci5 m2 slots and USB4. Thanks to your video this does not seem to an inferior option to the up and coming am5 mainboards. I hope this will end up with some cheaper alternatives that are suitable or maybe the ProArt becoming either cheaper or available used.
Please please do this video again for the B850. This video was so informative and I’m considering the B650 Taichi because of you, but I want to learn more about the B850 and the news is just not clear for consumers
With 24 lanes that means I could use 16 for the GPU, and 4 for an SSD since the remaining 4 will be used to communicate with the chipset. Is that correct?
No, you would still have 4 more lanes of gen 5. The total Gen 5 lane count is actually 28 lanes. We never count the last 4 because those connect to the chipset.
Still need to finish watching (minute 6 now) but so far... wow, this is a masterclass, man! Yeah, gonna return the x870 I stupidly bought: aorus with the digital debugger thing, very useful when problems arise but... then I kill my GPU with 3 M2 SSDs! Gonna try a late-minute deal on a x670e non-MSI. For I have a faulty x570 MSI tomahawk that I wanna hammer down into pieces, record that on video and post it to MSI. Well I won't do that but anyway... thanks!!!!
@@GameTechReviews Please do. I'm looking for a no compromises board. Under x870 Usb 4 is now taking up x4 of those lanes. So x16 fir GPU with two x4 Gen 5.0 (CPU lane) drives is impossible under x870 (I know there is nothing currently taking advantage of either and x8 for GPU and x4 or x2 SSD PCIE 5.0 is probably plenty of bandwidth for current gen, but still). Some x670 boards did offer 2 CPU SSDs with x16 GPU, but no USB 4 obviously, so it seems there always has to be a compromise.
I'm wondering if my Asus X670E Crosshair Hero can reach the high RAM speeds advertised with the new motherboards. I dropped a bag of cash on it and I would be pretty pissed if it won't be able to reach them.
@bgtubber I have the Asus X670E Crosshair Hero motherboard and gskill neo RGB ram. You can overclock your ram to above 6000mhz but it doesn't make much of a difference compared to lowering your timings. One interesting thing I found out is I can do 4 dims with 64gb total and it works fine. Do that with 4 dims with 128gbs total and you can't reach 6000mhz anymore. The board will not boot into windows above it's default speed of 4800mhz. Which is even lower than it's default speed when you use 2 dims. Granted you don't need that much RAM but it kinda sucks you can't if you have the money to spend.
@@trsskatermy Asus x670e-e boots ram to 8000 with g.skill 24gbx2. Actually got it to do 8200 but not very stable. But it is very stable at 8000 mts and it did improve C23 scores
I'm interested in X870E motherboard of having 2 things.. more true gen-5 lanes, and camm 2 RAM. I'm planning to get 9600x + 4070, Should I wait for x870e mb or just get b650 msi tomawhack ( 7600x instead of 9600x ). I don't plan to sell or upgrade pc for next 3-4 years. ❤
@@robertmorrison4020 camm2 will at some point... during computex 2024 a few vendors showed off x870e motherboards with AM5 and camm2 ram modeules, boasting lower latency and faster transfers than DIMM modules. that being said, no products currently exist in the consumer market, so our best shot for information on those is when x870e actually releases.
Yes, the USB4 standard is backwards compatible with Thunderbolt 3 and in a lot of cases Thunderbolt 4. I'll be discussing this topic in more depth in a future video.
I don't think you have all your facts correct. A B650E still doesn't offer 24 lanes of PCIe 5x. And I noticed a couple other mistakes. To the general public, just make sure the mobo you choose meets your I/O needs.
My boot time was long at first but I enabled memory restore and then it started booting faster. I had disabled🎉 memory restore in the beginning because someone recommended it for stability. I tried the interval change and it gave me a tiny bit but also heated too much. I'm running a delidded 7950x3d btw, msi suprim aqua 4090, asus rog strix x670e-e, g. Skill 24gb x 2.
Dude! I am so glad i ran across this video! I had been waiting for the newer chipset, now i find out its not really NEW at all! Wow, now I just need to decide whether i need USB 4 or not, probably not
Honestly, thank you so much. Subbed. I greatly appreciate the details, comparisons, and examples. You're getting a lot of love in the comments for a reason.
I got screwed on my previous build by not knowing the lane compromises I was making, and once I started using every expansion slot, I really noticed. Thank you again, keep it up!
Man, you are a born teacher, great explanation!
Gigabyte announced a B650E AORUS PRO X about a week ago, it also features USB4
There is another difference mentioned by another youtuber, he mentioned that in this generation, the USB4 is not part of the CPU controller but is made with an Asmedia chipset which is probably ASM4242, but this does make a difference, because the CPU does not need to be taxed with the USB4
Any X870 and X870E has the ASM4242 as explained in several of my videos. For the previous X670E and B650E that offered USB4 it was using the older JHL8540 as also explained in my other videos.
Thank you very much for this vid. It was very informative. Tbh, the ending really dug deep, man. I have never heard someone repeat Jensen so beautifully. I was going to do a modest $1,500 dollar build. Now, I'll grab a Godlike mobo, a pair of 4090s running in SLI, a 7950x3d, and 128gb of ram. You've been a true inspiration.
Not good enough, you should definitely run a quad 4090 ti super setup with 4x128 gb ddr6 8600 cl12
I’lo probably wait for everything to mature, but considering upgrading x670e to x870e for the usb4 since my 4090 covers up my pcie slots, so having usb4 would be nice.
Thank you so much. A good teacher and Microsoft Paint level God.
One of my main criterias was USB4 support and I was looking at the Asus ProArt 670e because it had a dual pci5 m2 slots and USB4.
Thanks to your video this does not seem to an inferior option to the up and coming am5 mainboards.
I hope this will end up with some cheaper alternatives that are suitable or maybe the ProArt becoming either cheaper or available used.
Outstanding JOB! Cleared up a lot of questions.
You rock man really great info! 👽👍🏽💯
Please please do this video again for the B850. This video was so informative and I’m considering the B650 Taichi because of you, but I want to learn more about the B850 and the news is just not clear for consumers
Thank you for your video! Simple, short and easy to understand 👍
Subbed
Also with GIGABYTE B650E AORUS PRO X USB4
glad i found this video... im in the middle of a build and was looking at an x870e or a b650e(i really like the look)
So what r u choosing after
Thank you for this!
With 24 lanes that means I could use 16 for the GPU, and 4 for an SSD since the remaining 4 will be used to communicate with the chipset. Is that correct?
No, you would still have 4 more lanes of gen 5. The total Gen 5 lane count is actually 28 lanes. We never count the last 4 because those connect to the chipset.
8:13 Cult vibes are hard with this one 😂
Still need to finish watching (minute 6 now) but so far... wow, this is a masterclass, man! Yeah, gonna return the x870 I stupidly bought: aorus with the digital debugger thing, very useful when problems arise but... then I kill my GPU with 3 M2 SSDs! Gonna try a late-minute deal on a x670e non-MSI. For I have a faulty x570 MSI tomahawk that I wanna hammer down into pieces, record that on video and post it to MSI. Well I won't do that but anyway... thanks!!!!
Can I get full speed of my two gen4 nvme disk at the same time with x870 platform? (7800x3d - rtx 4080 attached)
Yes, I'll be doing more deep dive looks at specific motherboards in the near future.
@@GameTechReviews Please do. I'm looking for a no compromises board. Under x870 Usb 4 is now taking up x4 of those lanes. So x16 fir GPU with two x4 Gen 5.0 (CPU lane) drives is impossible under x870 (I know there is nothing currently taking advantage of either and x8 for GPU and x4 or x2 SSD PCIE 5.0 is probably plenty of bandwidth for current gen, but still). Some x670 boards did offer 2 CPU SSDs with x16 GPU, but no USB 4 obviously, so it seems there always has to be a compromise.
What is x870-P like the ASUS PRIME X870-P
Thanks for this info!! Looks like I'll buy the x670e steel Legend. I don't think I would need usb 4.0.
What about the faster ram speeds they claim is attributed to the motherboard and cpu
That's a topic I'll be covering in a future video.
I'm wondering if my Asus X670E Crosshair Hero can reach the high RAM speeds advertised with the new motherboards. I dropped a bag of cash on it and I would be pretty pissed if it won't be able to reach them.
@@bgtubber yeah that would suck
@bgtubber I have the Asus X670E Crosshair Hero motherboard and gskill neo RGB ram. You can overclock your ram to above 6000mhz but it doesn't make much of a difference compared to lowering your timings. One interesting thing I found out is I can do 4 dims with 64gb total and it works fine. Do that with 4 dims with 128gbs total and you can't reach 6000mhz anymore. The board will not boot into windows above it's default speed of 4800mhz. Which is even lower than it's default speed when you use 2 dims. Granted you don't need that much RAM but it kinda sucks you can't if you have the money to spend.
@@trsskatermy Asus x670e-e boots ram to 8000 with g.skill 24gbx2. Actually got it to do 8200 but not very stable. But it is very stable at 8000 mts and it did improve C23 scores
Excellent!
I'm interested in X870E motherboard of having 2 things.. more true gen-5 lanes, and camm 2 RAM. I'm planning to get 9600x + 4070, Should I wait for x870e mb or just get b650 msi tomawhack ( 7600x instead of 9600x ). I don't plan to sell or upgrade pc for next 3-4 years. ❤
is camm2 coming to am5?
b650 with ongoing support, I'm to do the same but pair with a 4080 super instead
@@robertmorrison4020 camm2 will at some point... during computex 2024 a few vendors showed off x870e motherboards with AM5 and camm2 ram modeules, boasting lower latency and faster transfers than DIMM modules. that being said, no products currently exist in the consumer market, so our best shot for information on those is when x870e actually releases.
870e and 670e are same? except for default usb4?
They are the same in the sense they both use the dual Promontory 21. However, the newer X870E might have better compatibility with higher speed DDR5.
will new mob have thunderbolt display for pen tablet or have to go for proart mob
Yes, the USB4 standard is backwards compatible with Thunderbolt 3 and in a lot of cases Thunderbolt 4. I'll be discussing this topic in more depth in a future video.
Thanks
Asrock x870e nova and a 7800x3d. Will it work.?
Yes, of course. Why do you need an X870e though if you’re asking this question?
So I see no reason to upgrade from my x670e-e. It runs at 8000 mts and has same lanes and rails and chipset.
So you are running in 1:2 mode. Have you checked whether you are losing performance compared to running 6400MHz in 1:1 mode?
1:2 8000 is faster than 1:1 6000. I've covered this in a previous video.
@@GameTechReviews But is it faster in games then 1:1 6400? ;)
MSI ACE x670e actually had 3 Chipsets.
Just did my first desktop build and that's the motherboard I went with. Got it up and running a few days ago and really happy with it
but the evidence is that these will not launch july 31
They said launch in July
But I haven't heard any specific date
It is July 31
@@eshaanzahid5073 not the x870 motherboards
I don't think you have all your facts correct. A B650E still doesn't offer 24 lanes of PCIe 5x. And I noticed a couple other mistakes.
To the general public, just make sure the mobo you choose meets your I/O needs.
so basically if ur on a x670e ur fine ty :)
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i like him
My boot time was long at first but I enabled memory restore and then it started booting faster. I had disabled🎉 memory restore in the beginning because someone recommended it for stability. I tried the interval change and it gave me a tiny bit but also heated too much. I'm running a delidded 7950x3d btw, msi suprim aqua 4090, asus rog strix x670e-e, g. Skill 24gb x 2.