@@paulrichards6894 It is entirely possible that Look de Vega was not fully wound up and he would not be the first horse to go on and win an Arc having been placed in the trial. He is bred to stay the trip on his Dam's side but Sosie is sired by an Arc winner and is a course and distance specialist. There is of course always the confounded Longchamp 'draw' factor to consider.
If they decide to give him a shot at the Arc this time around instead of running him in the Cadran again, a stayer like Kyprios with loads of stamina and with a real turn of foot with his closing kick could potentially run a lot like this asunder. O'Brien ran his top stayer at that time, Order of St George, in the Arc twice, and he ran well on both occassions. He finished 3rd of 16 behind stablemates Found & Highland Reel in 2016 and 4th of 18 behind Enable, Cloth of Stars, & Ulysses in 2017. As someone who was a big fan of Order of St George, and with no disrespect whatsoever meant to him, I think Kyrprios is evey bit the stayer Order of St George was, and over the shorter 12F trip in a race like the Arc I think his tactical speed is better, and I know the turn of foot he shows with his closing kick is faster than Order of St George's was in my humble opinion.
Sosie- Very robust , progressive and thick set horse and to me looking better each time BUT the arc is a far bigger field and that’s what would worry me
He probably would win easily, but Ambiente Friendly has hardly advertised the Derby form here, I'm hoping that Haggas decides to run Economics, he too looks like he wouldn't have that much trouble winning it this year.
The question is what could you back? Quite a few bubbles burst and what's left doesn't look that hot, credit to this horse Sosie though, he's won the Prix de Paris and this both over the Arc distance on this Arc course.
@@nightowl7459 He's trained by the great Monsieur Fabre so you should fear him. At the moment Shin Emperor is the one I like, also Emily Upjohn as an each way bet if she runs.
I thought the delius run in 2nd was very eyecatching. If you watch the jockey didn't give him one proper whip with the race in 3 weeks time very much in mind. He'll enjoy the bigger field with a stronger pace to run at as he's a strong stayer. Can't see him out of the first three myself
I think he had a similar race to the winner, but should be better in a more truer run race, but then again maybe that could also apply to the winner? It's more a question of whose going to improve the more and what the going is likely to be?
I will eat my hat if that wins the Arc. They all finished in a heap.
run in a crawl.....i think it should be double figures and even then I wouldn't fancy it
@@paulrichards6894 French horses are all trained for a sprint finish and routinely finish in a heap.
@@robinmiller9865 he did run 3rd in a truly run french derby ...don't think that form is good enough
@@paulrichards6894 It is entirely possible that Look de Vega was not fully wound up and he would not be the first horse to go on and win an Arc having been placed in the trial. He is bred to stay the trip on his Dam's side but Sosie is sired by an Arc winner and is a course and distance specialist. There is of course always the confounded Longchamp 'draw' factor to consider.
@@robinmiller9865 agree you have to wait for the draw ....and the going
I would love for Sosie to win; then Sea the Stars would have an Arc winner.
Sorry to say that Sea the Stars has had eleven runners in the Arc without a winner.
Look De Vega hadn't run since the Jockey Club. He'll come on big time from this run.
@@signoresantinoburnett1169 he dosent stay
@@robertdelacy3434 yes doesnt stay when he leads. Not his position. He is a horse who follows and strikes.
Totally agree with you, got 20/1 e/w for the Arc, that was just a piece of work and it loooked very promising
thats the price today i would want to back it ...would be surprised if it was good enough
No chance.
#none
#knowledgeispower
If they decide to give him a shot at the Arc this time around instead of running him in the Cadran again, a stayer like Kyprios with loads of stamina and with a real turn of foot with his closing kick could potentially run a lot like this asunder. O'Brien ran his top stayer at that time, Order of St George, in the Arc twice, and he ran well on both occassions. He finished 3rd of 16 behind stablemates Found & Highland Reel in 2016 and 4th of 18 behind Enable, Cloth of Stars, & Ulysses in 2017. As someone who was a big fan of Order of St George, and with no disrespect whatsoever meant to him, I think Kyrprios is evey bit the stayer Order of St George was, and over the shorter 12F trip in a race like the Arc I think his tactical speed is better, and I know the turn of foot he shows with his closing kick is faster than Order of St George's was in my humble opinion.
Sosie- Very robust , progressive and thick set horse and to me looking better each time BUT the arc is a far bigger field and that’s what would worry me
You just saw the Arc winner...
😂😂😂😂
where
@@marttyler2569Why not? Sosie has twice won over the Arc course and distance and it's a very average looking season.
@@marttyler2569What's so funny about that? He's now favourite.
City of Troy should be lined up for the arc he is in the betting but not a chance as the breeders cup is the only one they want
He probably would win easily, but Ambiente Friendly has hardly advertised the Derby form here, I'm hoping that Haggas decides to run Economics, he too looks like he wouldn't have that much trouble winning it this year.
I think City could win the Arc, obviously he needs to be init to win it . The Breeders is on dirt, something City of Troy has never experienced
@@johnfay8139 He's still in it, but they definitely seem to be intending to bypass it, and go straight for the Breeders Cup Classic.
Lovely horse
Sosie will probably start favourite for the Arc after this success. Look De Vega looked tired and jaded in third.
Look De Vega was out for a run though and this race will put him spot on for the arc so I’d just be a bit cautious to take this form at face value
@@cameron3097 spot on
The fact that this is now fav for the arc says everything about the lack of real quality this year.
did Look de Vega lack stamina? Sosie has got the right form to win the Arc having won the GP de Paris and Niel over the Arc course and distance
Did it nicely, but I personally wouldn't back any of these for the Arc.
Who do you like? The Japanese horse that came 3rd behind Economics looks interesting.
The question is what could you back? Quite a few bubbles burst and what's left doesn't look that hot, credit to this horse Sosie though, he's won the Prix de Paris and this both over the Arc distance on this Arc course.
@@nightowl7459 Fabre knows a thing or two about preparing a colt for the Arc. He’s the one for me.
@@jonathankeymer1775 I'm starting to warm to Shin Emperor for sure.
@@nightowl7459 He's trained by the great Monsieur Fabre so you should fear him. At the moment Shin Emperor is the one I like, also Emily Upjohn as an each way bet if she runs.
My pick
Shin emperor
Bluestocking beats all these in the Arc
THE ARC A DIFFERENT ANIMAL YOU HAVENT SEEN THE ARC WINNER IN THIS FIELD
I thought the delius run in 2nd was very eyecatching. If you watch the jockey didn't give him one proper whip with the race in 3 weeks time very much in mind. He'll enjoy the bigger field with a stronger pace to run at as he's a strong stayer. Can't see him out of the first three myself
I think he had a similar race to the winner, but should be better in a more truer run race, but then again maybe that could also apply to the winner? It's more a question of whose going to improve the more and what the going is likely to be?
Dimanche 7 octobre look de Vega va clairement montrer un tout autre visage
The Arc winner!
The one that came 3rd.
look de vega is not a natural front runner
Explains why they were walking lol. I would be surprised if any of these win the Arc.