Boondocking 101 - It's Easier Than You Think | RV Miles
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- Boondocking, also known as dispersed camping or wild camping can be a refreshing way to escape the busy campgrounds and find a little peace and quiet, but it can also be really intimidating.
If you think you need to be loaded with thousands of dollars of solar and batteries in order to unplug and head off on your own, you don’t. You can easily boondock with the exact rig you drove off the lot, no extras needed.
In this RV Basics video, RV Miles creators and podcast hosts Jason and Abby share tips and insights on how to make boondocking a reality for even the timidest of campers.
If you're a seasoned boondocker, we tip our hat to you and suggest you watch another of our videos, because this one is definitely not for you.
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New RVer here. Love that description that boondocking is just like tent camping with better shelter. And better beds. And better cooking options. And better toilet options... lol
That's WHY we got an RV... to do tent camping better
That's why we got a truck bed camper!
Glamping
Kept looking around for that periodic “WATER Dripping” / “Water Leak” in my Coach... Then I realize...its coming from your video!!! LOL!!! Great info, once again!! Thank you for what you bring to our Community!
I’m at my house and I paused the video to see where the dripping/ticking noice was coming from.🤣
I thought boondocking would be hard, but it is easy just like you said! Some of my best camping expereinces have been off the grid or at more remote locations. Great tips! 👍😀
We've been boondocking since 2006. 90% of our camping is boondocking in National Forests and BLM. Love it! We have a 40' toy hauler. We've had moose literally come through our camp that were literally as far away as our RV is long, deer on our front door-step, and watched a bear through the windows of our RV and at dusk listen to the elk bugeling.
“Didn’t know there was an app for that”, that was funny 😂
Solar and Batteries going hand in hand is true, but if you are on a budget, you can do batteries first as they will work with a generator just fine. Once you have the batteries you need to boondock as you'd like, you can then decide if you want to add solar and eliminate much of the need for a generator.
I have been checking out a number of the boondocking channels, and I have to say your tips are without a doubt the best one stop source. Bravo Zulu
Solar showers are great. You can double down by using a bucket to collect rain water to fill your solar shower - in places where it rains enough to justify it. You can also get a gray water recycling system that will filter the gray back into fresh for reuse in the shower etc. You can get a cartridge system instead of a black tank - I've heard a lot of good things there. Personally, I'm thinking of going with a bidet to eliminate paper all together. You could also use a diaper genie to store dirty paper and not have it stink as bad. Those things DO work.
Our first boondocking experience was unplanned. We went to camp at the Corps of Engineers rec area at Goose Point, VA, arriving just a few hours after a horrendous thunderstorm swept through the area. It knocked out the electricity, which meant there was no shore power or city water, and the toilets and showers were inop. Fortunately, we had several gallons of fresh water on board for the trip out, which lasted us until the utilities were restored 18 hours later.
Everything you've said is so helpful,
Thank you guys!
Thanks for sharing this information with us.
Have a great day and be blessed!
You two are awesome! This was so informative! Boondocking doesn’t so seem intimidating after watching this vid. Thanks for posting. Stay safe! 🙂✌🏻🙂
Love the sincere honesty, you didn’t sugar coat and that’s what we need to hear. Thinking of RV full time. Now I’m the process of purging my belongings and loving it.
I was raised in the country so most of what you shared doesn’t bother me, excited for a new journey
Thanks for the video! Great information that is extremely helpful.
Good stuff as always, thanks for the tips and resources.
You bet!
Hey, good on you guys for doing a UA-cam channel. Love your info. and you guys are fun to watch. Here's what would make it more fun. Part of watching RV-ers, (or Van peeps, or Sailing peeps -- nomads) is the feeling (in me the viewer) that I am really getting to connect with you and you are letting me in your life. And...it is hard to feel that connection if I can't see your eyes (sunglasses). I know, I know, you are mostly outside for videos. And, it is just a connection thing. I'm on your side. Not offered from any bad feelings and not a put down (really hope you did not take it that way). Just thought you'd want the feedback. Seeing how it is a platform that is not in person, it seems even more important (to me). But, hey, I am just a viewer and that is how I feel. Ask all your other UA-cam Rv-er friends who also have a channel and see what they say. Offered with love & care for your success. Big Blessings to you both, Patti Bee, Madison, Wisconsin
So much great information. Thank you.
Glad to hear BOONDOCKING is not beyond a reasonable camper's ability. Your advice about holding back on purchases is sound advice. I can attest to that, having made that mistake myself. Practicing being unplugged for a few days close to home will tell you how things go for you & what you need vs what you think you need. You're right about food, simple meals. And water conservation, people learn quickly how problematic that can be. Thanks for your enthusiastic delivery on
'Boondocking 101 It's Easier Than You Think RV Miles'. Now who doesn't want to boondock after that! Come Spring I'm going moochdocking at a friend's woodsy lot on his New England piece of land. Thanks from CamperFrank with my Silver Conestoga Wagon.
I just found out about this, it's a AC/ DC air conditioning unit that might be worth looking into especially because you can run it on both and doesn't take a lot of electricity I believe you can probably run it on a solar panels and I think it'd be worth looking and maybe saving some money especially for a beginner like myself
Your information is always timely and relevant. The humor is enjoyable. Thank you for sharing you knowledge. Have a stellar day.
Great advice. Enjoyed thanks for sharing.
This is great practical information. Thank you both!
Glad it was helpful!
Best realistic advice I have ever watched on dry camping. I have a duel fuel generator and wet wipes.
Great info! I love the it’s tent camping - really puts it into perspective!!
Awesome! Hope you get out there and enjoy some boondocking soon!
Great advice! Thanks.
Super helpful!!! Thanks!!!
Great information, way to keep it real. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for sharing your wisdom. Just subscribed. Look forward to watching more videos!
Welcome aboard!
You guys are the best. I love all your videos! My husband, toddler, and I are going full time as soon as we possibly can! Great information from you guys! Thank you!
Thanks for such a nice comment and good luck with the transition to full-time. Hope to see you on the road! -Abby
RV Miles of course & that would be awesome! This might sound silly but do you have any info about leaving your RV unsupervised during explorations, work, or anything else? Are you allowed to leave your RV unsupervised or do you have to bring it along with you? I’m trying to think ahead. Any info at all would be super helpful.
If you are boondocking/dispersed camping and you are a few hundred yards away from other people, you can run your generator all day, all night. You are not bothering anyone.
I Boondock all the time I have a 40 foot diesel pusher 110 gallons of fresh water 50 black 60 gray it’s got propane and a 7500 quiet run diesel generator I typically only run the generator two hours before bedtime to cool the coach down and charge up the batteries for the night and an hour in the morning to recharge the batteries. I cook outside hang out outside most of the day. I have three AGM hundred amp hour batteries, no solar. Five people 5 to 6 days out Boondocking me and the wife only 10 days easy.
As for using a cooler instead of a fridge, if you are already going to use the fridge, because this is a real test for boondocking, put as much as you can in the fridge that is pre-chilled. The fridge is MUCH more efficient when it is full than when it is more empty. Always chill your fridge stuff first as it will take a LONG time to chill anything warm (like soda). It is more to keep things cold.
Just found your channel awesome video thank you
Thanks for sharing and keeping it simple! Campendium is the best, although not perfect. I find National Forest, State Forest, BLM and parks ( National to municipal) sites best to check direct online for details. I have camped five months of each year for the last three years. Generator free! Zamp 90 watt panel the first year, and added a second 90 watt panel last year, which I can move to face the sun. No smelly gas generator. Go solar! Yes I do have propane for cooking, on demand hot water, and furnace. Not perfect but nice to eliminate a gas generator.
I've been boondocking for 50 years (LOL No not full time) and I follow my gut. I have been all set up and chillaxing when that creepy dude hits my radar. I could tell my wife was feeling it too. We looked at each other, nodded and packed it up and left. That's the biggest tip I can give about your personal security when boondocking follow your gut.
This is a great video for beginners. Thank you.
You’re very welcome!
Just found you guys. Glad I did. Great info... Thank you
Welcome!
Great video!! I'm loving all this.. I am a single mom of 3 and we just got our camper.. the goal was to boondock as much as possible.. this definitely has me thinking big.. I love the shower recycling idea! Also considering a composting toilet now.. y'all are great, thanks a lot.. I have subscribed 😁😁😁
Great video, just the information and tips I needed to hear. I will be going fulltime soon (in a class A) and the idea of being packed in like sardines at a RV park isn't very appealing. I will probably doing doing more parks than boondocking in the beginning until I get more comfortable and organized though. I did sign up for Harvest Hosts so that will be a good way to start and get some experience living without hook ups.
I do not have solar so was very interested in hearing that my generator is just fine for boondocking. I will have 4 fresh 6v deep cycle lead acid batteries, though lithium sounds great I don't want to splurge just yet before seeing how much I like boondocking or not.
Now I'm getting even more excited to hit the road, I suppose everyone has some doubts before going full time.
Thanks for the great information and to remind me that it's what I've been doing my whole life!! Ha, ha!
Very useful information, and thank you for not using music for your videos!
Hello Guy! Great information. I am looking forward to do some boondocking. We boondock on sailboat off of Cape Lookout Lighthouse several time or anchored on the ICW, so it seem boondocking in RV is the same as anchoring on sailboat. Great tips and looking to enjoying our RV.
Thank you for all information. It’s very helpful. That’s we are planning to do. We have 5 wheels it’s Big. We are both retired.
Thank you ❤️
Thnx for vid
As a 40 year tent camper Boon docking is a breeze in a 5th wheels. Got a champion duel fuel 3500 inverter Generator 1200 bucks. Now 4 years an still great.
Great video, as usual! I wish you'd mentioned in the segment on batteries that solar is clean and renewable, vs the generator. Yes, manufacturing the panels requires fossil fuels, which is canceled out by the mfr of generators, but from then on they're helping our planet! Not perfect, so a generator is a good backup for when there's no sun. Your video equated the two. But they're far from being the same. I love you both. Keep up the good work!
Solar is great for the smaller power banks, but it takes a long time to recharge on the larger ones and you need direct sunlight for that to happen. Plus, I don’t think you can recycle any part of them. Batteries, panels or inverters. Just like the windmills, who’s wings need to be replaced every ten years and are not recyclable and are just buried in the ground! Not to mention the thousands of birds including eagles that are killed, every year. I’ve changed my mind 100 % on complete solar. It sounds great, until you actually find out the truth.
Whenever you talk about solar you make it sound so simple, including the reassurance that you don’t actually need it! I hope you do a video just about solar. And composting toilets;)
Great video, thank you ! I'm considering RV LIFE but I'm totally green , I never had an RV or spent a night in one , I'm considering taking a course on it to become familiar with all the systems and hookups, cuz I want to know what I'm doing before I just go out there and wing it, thanks again for info, I liked the video and subscribed
Good, thanks
Welcome
Or try your local conservation depth for free camping I live in Missouri they have camping at some conservation depth. Locations usually associated with a lake or river or stream
HAHA I wish I could do it in my drive way or my parking spot. That might be too tempting to just go back inside the nice warm house, but when you are out far enough to have to drive that makes since to try it out. I've been wanting to do this for a while now, and spring is coming. Maybe soon. (in my rig, a Nissan Leaf) haha!! 🔌🚗👋🏻💜. two links that I've booked marked and I love the reflection in your sunglasses 😎
Thanks
Just started my vanlife journey. I have a steam/shower only using about a gallon of distilled water.
Being a decades long tent camper boondocking is not difficult. Having a travel trailer now is basically the same thing with a little running water and not have to worry about setting up a tent, getting blown away in the wind or worrying about rain. It's very nice. You just have to ignore the AC and 120 volt outlets. You don't have to use a lot of water because you didn't use it before if you were a camper.
The biggest challenge I think for people having a trailer in boondocking is IGNORING ALL THE AMENITIES that are in front of you.
A hand cloth and gas station/coffee shop bathroom can help stay clean and save shower water...Leave it cleaner than you found it and nobody will ever know/care.
My wife and I are old Bikers. 30 years ago, we lived on the bike and a bedroll. That quickly evolved into over stuffed saddle bags, then a whole lot of gear strapped to the bike (tent, sleeping bags, cooking gear, BEER, chairs, ect), that got to the point of being heavy fast. So we added a trailer.... forward fast 20 years, I found out I was buying an old camper trailer literally the day that I went to go get it! I found out real fast that it needed completely gutted and rebuilt. Now just a quick add on, I'm an engineer... While rebuilding the camper trailer, boondocking (off grid living) was the goal and my spoiled rotten wife has her demands. SO AC was a priority... 6 solar panels, 4 batteries and 2 inverters later I was able to provide that, but when night time comes the power clicks off in a few short hours. Forward fast another couple years and I inherited a class a motorhome. I boondocked with it right off the bat on the way home. Figured out how the genset worked, how the fridge worked, parking, water use, ect on the first 2 nights as we made our way back home with the new house on wheels. 30 years of camping and evolving with our own wants and needs just to blend into nature all boil down to this one project right now that I think is very easily attainable. We recently found a beautiful lake where the fishing is good and the camping is free, but boondocking is the only option. After 3 days the fresh water tank was empty (need to stretch that out better) the set battery needs a lot of help so solar it is and I know how long we can run the genset before having to refuel. We're already making mods to it to stretch the time out as much as possible. Jerry can mounts for extra fuel and water, solar power, an inverter system for minor luxuries and so forth. While my wife really don't like the idea, the shower is just a large storage area for fishing gear and so forth.
One thing I'll never forget is what the guy who sold us the camper said.... "this is just a hard shell tent with a nice bed".
I full-time in my motorhome and I Boondock at least 98% of the time. It’s the only way to fly for me.
I do not like a composting toilet and that is why I'm installing a 55 gallon black water and gray water tank where the tanks cost me $15 apiece.
Inside the camper ( 2002 International pusher ), I will have a 55 gallon fresh water tank for shower and flush toilet. Under the kitchen sink, I will have (4) 5 gallon fresh water containers for kitchen use only. Boondocking I will enjoy for 30 days without need to replenish fresh water tank or to dump gray and black water tanks.
I love boondocking, and I go solo. I can easily last 3 weeks without dumping and refilling water.
but soon after buying a rv. invest in better batteries. as some camp grounds suffer low power power serges and blackouts. buy a surge protecter first thing. and have your fresh water tank full when you leave home. camp grounds can have low or surging water psi.
one can even boon dock in there driveway. just keep out of the house and do everything i only the rv.
visit people and camp in there driveway. ( far less stress on everybody).
Must be someway ( separate pump and plumbing ) to use grey tank for toilet flushing
We are trying to plan our ten day long tour of the 5 Utah national parks in our rpod. We are going to do a mix of boondocking and paid camp sites. Our longest boondocking stretch will be three nights.
Right now we only have a single 20lb propane tank and single battery. No generator. I am thinking we should get a generator to recharge the batteries after running the furnace overnight.
MY WIFE AND I ARE SOON TO BE FULLTIME RV'ERS. JUST AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO JETTISON ALL STUFF. MARRIED 37 YEARS AND 2 KIDS LATER THERE'S LOTS OF STUFF. SAFETY IS WHAT SOMEONE CAN MAKE OF IT. MOST OF OUR BOONDOCKING HAS BEEN A SPOT CONVENIENT TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO A LOCATION. NEVER HAD A ISSUE. OUR PLAN IS TO GET A LOCATION WITH AMENITIES; WATER POWER SEWER, SO WE CAN EMPTY TANKS, LAUNDRY, RESUPPLY FOR MAYBE 4 DAYS A MONTH. THOSE OTHER 26 OR SO DAYS IS BOONDOCKING ON PUBLIC LAND WHERE EVER I CAN GET MY EQUIPMENT IN. IN A GENERAL SENSE WE'LL BE THROWING A DART ON TO A MAP AND THAT'S WHERE WE GO.
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Solidarity! I got tired of coloring it and figured - I am who I am and who I am is just fine. 😀😀😀
Right on!
Yup, blonde March 2020, silver March 2021
The only upgrade we made to our new rig after our first time dry camping is that we upgraded from a 75ah battery to (2) 100ah AGM batteries. We have a 12v residential fridge, which we love, and is very efficient. So the extra battery capacity was nice, but if you have a typical propane RV fridge, you could probably even get by without the battery upgrade for a weekend. Especially if you have all LED lighting inside. We're able to go out on a 3 day weekend with just that battery upgrade. We also have a 100w portable solar panel which we've basically used as a battery minder. It doesn't really keep up with our power usage, but every little bi helps. We've been wanting to go out on longer boondocking trips, so we recently purchased a generator. But I think anyone looking to just do weekend boondocking could do fine without one. I'm not sure I'd spend all the money for a big solar setup unless we were out there full-timing.
Also, we look at it as a challenge. It's kind of fun to see how little energy you can live on. We did tent camping or more than 25 years, so an RV seems a bit like glamping to us. We really enjoy boondocking because it brings us back to our true camping days. Low energy, low impact, take-in take-out, backwoods surviving...It's still glamping, but let me dream :-)
BTW, We're a family of 6
$6 in gas to run my AC all day long!!!
So what if.... I go out my 1st boondocking trip and I run all my batteries down and I'm stuck? Will I need a jump? The generator I have I think needs some work. So will the generator charge my batteries up if their dead?
It's the unknown right now and I'm thinking about going to a campground to plug in and then unplug to see what happens.
Thanks for all the info!
I'm subscribing.
The question I have, and I may have missed the answer somewhere in the comments, is where to you get the water from? Water usage and water conservation is great information. We don't have the space at our residence to pull up the camper and fill up the tank. So where do we go for the water?
At the 17 min mark they comment on water jugs and a hand pump. I’ve seen electric/battery pumps to help transfer water from a 5gallon bubbler bottle, or any water container, into camper water fill. I’m certainly not an authority on this but this is my experience. They mentioned apps that show many spots and amenities, I know campendium is free. Some have potable water fills and dump stations. Some with or with out fees. Some are campsites others business, such as a truck stop.
You could drive and fill external bottles for extra water. When moving to a new site, swing by a nearby place that has a dump and potable water fill, refreshing the whole system.
thanks. how about a little information on how to find dump stations or where to find water to fill fresh water tank.
Great suggestion. We'll put that on the list for a future video.
Yea my don is in my 5th wheel we keep moving to these spots n it is aweful 1200 a month thats too much up in hesperia california
I think what Abby said is the gist of it; it is luxurious tent camping.
Let's see.
I pull over, climb inside, cook, eat, wash dishes, shower, watch a movie, enjoy heat from the furnace, then sleep.
I have cold and hot water, functioning toilet and shower, heat, entertainment etc.
Boondocking doesn't mean you're not living in luxury, it just means you better have all your luxurious gadgets in working order if you want that 5 star hotel feeling inside your rv.
Great tips on B.D.ing. I think I hear pickleballers?
Could you explain please about extra batteries instead of solar in a class a with its own genetator? We are new to rv'ing and would like to boondock.thank you in advance.
Is that a sketchy homeless person in the trees making the popping sound? 😂
I don’t like your channel, I love it!!!!!
You're the best!
"lots and lots of money" is relative, especially as electronics get cheaper by the day. I built an 800 amp-hour 12v battery bank with 16 loose LiFePo4 cells. Cost less than $3k. With my 3kw inverter / charger, I can run my air conditioner for around 12 hours on battery, which is long enough to get me through "no generator" hours at night. Once the generator is running in the morning, I can charge while running the air conditioner. Really makes summer Florida camping nice. Spending $1k on a battle born is fine if you want something simple and reliable, but with a little research you can save all LOT of money.
Keep looking for campendium, am I misspelling it? That would be normal for me, sigh-lol! Is there a link somewhere to get me started!
www.campendium.com/
More then likely a dumb question but.... Is it bad etiquette to run really quiet inverter generators through the night for AC if nobody is close by? What would be a distance from other campers that would be acceptable in your opinion? Thanks
We typically suggest you use a general campground quiet hours rule when boondocking (10 PM - 8 AM). We have found the nights to be so lovely with the windows open and the cool breeze coming through. Even if there is no one around, you are still in a “wild” space and it does seem like good camper practice to keep even the quietest generator off at night. Thanks for asking! Happy trails! -Abby
If it sounds out of place in the natural surroundings, it is annoying to other campers. I could probably hear your generator from 1000 yards, it doesn't sound like crickets or birds. Time is the key. Run it during the day, keep it to a minimum. Please don't run it at night.
If you are already set up start your generator up when someone pulls in if they park close enough to you thats on them if they were there first go by the standard quiet hours
Is trying to get through all the chit chat.
Love the help getting started bonedocking !
FYI look up the origin of "rule of thumb" basically its justified wife beating ! Literally .....anyhow you guys are great very much appreciate you.
It’s easier than you think and more dangerous than you know, and getting worse everyday!
You can put your paper in a empty peanut butter jar exc
Not in New Jersey
Shower standing in a bin so you can recover the water for the toilet. 😀👍i recover 90% of shower water.
That’s actually GENIUS! Why not flush with grey water? That’s the smartest thing EVER!
@@Erin-Thor Put a tub in your kitchen sink and you can recover that water also. 😀 Plus your cleaning your black tank with soapy water.
Connie's Final Quest - Do that already, LOL! But we just dump the water outside. Anything to stretch the tanks is a good idea.
Thank you for info good
@@Erin-Thor whats grey water
I don't understand grey tank n that tank i have a 5th wheel
Black tank: toilet wastewater. GREY tank: all other wastewater (sinks, showers....)
Boondocks Saints?
What about wildlife like bears
This is very confusing. Boondock means remote and wild place with no roads generally high in the mountains (Bundok translated to English means Mountain). I’m confused how you’re getting an RV there. The term Boondockers refer to army field boots or mountaineering shoes but y’all are talking about driving, this seems more like glamour camping. Boonglamping?
We didn't co-opt the term for RVers. Not really a fan of it, but it's what people use to refer to camping without hookups away from developed campgrounds. The dictionary says "rough, remote, or isolated country."
It's stupid to plan to boondock and not buy what you need to boondock. Your level of comfort can determine if you like boondocking or not. You could easily not prepare, go boondocking and claim it's not for you. Of course not if you aren't even comfortable because you didn't prepare. Before you boondock, you should figure out water storage, bathroom, heating and cooling and power access at the very least. All can have simple solutions where you don't have to spend a lot of money. But to say you should just jump in your rig and go, even if you're just boondocking in a walmart parking lot, is bad advice.
All of those things - water storage, heating & cooling, bathroom... are already on virtually every RV.
Its not stupid nor bad advice to just get out there with a factory equipped RV to try it out. I certainly don't want to waste money just to see if I like it boondocking or not.
I have what I NEED to boondock, just need to practice at conserving/rationing the resources I already have.
Everyone thinks THEY know exactly what a word means and it can’t mean anything else.
What's with the knocking noise throughout this video? I had to stop and move on. Sorry.
Do you still do this?
Boondock? Absolutely
@@RVMiles- Thanks. I was just curious if it was getting harder to do. And I've only seen your news content so this one surprised me.
@@rswfire we cover our personal travels a lot more on the RV Miles podcast (which is also on UA-cam on its own channel)
Do you know that there are sketchy people out there??lol
You are not saying anything about cargo vans. Some camp ground restrictions are 21 ft jimits. Cargp vans, the short body are 19 ft, extended vans are 21 ft.
I am getting my van next a Ford 350 extended cargo van. I am going to make it into a man cave on wheels and use it for camping. Their at least 100,000 plus van dwellers in the US.
Your missing all the people that are living in there SUV and just regular cars.
I am moving to. A van BY CHOICE as MANY of the others have moved from a house or apartment to live as a Nomad, it is a movement. Ck out vanlife on UA-cam. People of all ages are making the move to a Nomad life style by choise.
This is just a video for RV owners to not be so scared to try out boondocking. Obviously, vans are well set up for it.
Can u spell for me campending
Campendium 😉
Solar is great for the smaller power banks, especially yard tools but it takes a long time to recharge on the larger ones and you need direct sunlight for that to happen. Plus, I don’t think you can recycle any part of them. Batteries, panels or inverters. Just like the windmills, who’s wings need to be replaced every ten years and are not recyclable and are just buried in the ground! Not to mention the thousands of birds including eagles that are killed, every year. I’ve changed my mind 100 % on complete solar. It sounds great, until you actually find out the truth. It takes gas powered machines to build all these solar parts. The New Reset/Green New Deal/New World Order is destroying our free country. Don’t get me wrong, I love the small, battery, hand tools.
Another point, if you get the Honda 2200i generators, from another company you can purchase a propane converter kit, which lets you switch back and forth between gas usage or propane! You can get the kit from Mountain View Hearth.
BLM is the best