I just received the 42mm mk3 version and it is perfect for my 8.25 inch wrist. It fits me about how the 39mm fits you. The newest 42mm has the colour of the markers match the hands. A plus on the 42mm is the bezel being easier to turn.
Hi. That’s true. With a wrist size above 8, you definitely need the 42mm. And I just recently saw Steinhart making the new 42mm version, so I think you now have the same upgrade to your 42mm regarding lume etc. That’s a big step up, so congrats with that. Wear it in good health and enjoy it!
Love your style of review and choice of music. I have seen all the reviews on UA-cam of this gorgeous timepiece, yours is by far the best! Subbed and liked!
Great watch, i have the V1 original with the 660ft-200m on the face and the case back, pretty rare from what i have heard. Not too keen on ocean one written on the face under the Steinhart logo on the newer ones. A very good looking watch thats easy on the eye, the bezel is very sexy with the minute markers all the way around.
Love this video and the music. Made my decision to go with the 39 with my 7 1/4" wrist. I love the looks better and very good points made here. Lume shots would have also been nice. One thing not mentioned and which was part of the deciding factor for me was the back of the watch. The numbering I like better. This will be my second Steinhart as I have the Regulator and love it. I look forward to putting this on a Nato or premium rubber strap. Well done.
Really good video with a relaxing vibe to it. I like how you explain your view on the homage topic and I totally agree. The diver expertise (even if I won't need it) is the thing which amazes me about this design. Can't wait to get my 39mm.
Great comment. The homage topic was simply something I had to get off my cheast. Glad you liked it. And if you are getting the 39mm, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. I feel and notice the “difference” every time I wear it. Enjoy it!!
Great review. I bought the 42 without even knowing a 39 was available. Still, these are a very nice watch whatever the size and they feel good in the hand. Still, wish I had the 39!
I'm happy that you got a watch you like in the size that works for you. I have 8 1/2" wrists and the 39 would look like a ladies watch on me. I have the Steinhard Ocean One 42mm which fits well, but comes in second to my Panzera Flieger 46 which is perfect on me and the watch I waited a long time to find. It is 52mm lug to lug which suits me fine. I can appreciate the sentiment as an homage piece.
It,s the best 5517 Homage you can buy...In either 42mm or 39mm......I also have the Squale Militaire.....And the Steiny beats it hands down.......I own the Black 42mm and the Grey 42mm......And will shortly take ownership of the 39mm OVM......Beautiful pieces all......And on a Bracelet or a Nato.....There are few pieces that give you that true MilSub Vibe like the Steinhart.....Highly recommended, both the Watches and the Company.
Vincent Yeung Hi Vincent. Thanks! I’m glad I could help. That’s what it is all about. Enjoy it in good health. I enjoy mine more and more over time. For example - try fitting a leather nato on it. It really makes the hour markings pop very nicely.
spot on review! I have the ovm39 too and I really love it. just wishing that steinhart release a 39mm version of the ocean titanium 500 premium in stainless steel with the upgraded eta movement and ceramic bezel
The original Rolex was 40mm as it was just a mod to the 5513. I have the 5513 and the Steinhart 39 like yours. I have no. 300. Love this watch and keeps better time than my Rolex. Great review.
Thank you, Ojay. That means a lot. I have my conviction about homage, but I see a lot of people throwing these different terms around and they are not really clear on what they mean. This distinction is - at least for me - making some sense, separating fake, copy and homage into three very different things. The OVM 42 is fine, so do go for that. If you cannot find one, you can always buy mine. I still have it but only use the 39.
I just got my 39 mm OVM in the mail from Gnomon. My one complaint about this watch is that they very clearly shrunk a 39 mm case around a dial and hands intended for a larger case. The case crowds the dial: you can tell this when you look at the dial straight on. The inner walls of the case are not visible unless you look at the dial from a steep angle. In most watches, and certainly most vintage dive watches, the inner walls of the case are angled slightly outward away from the dial. On this watch, they seem to be either vertical or maybe even angled slightly inward. In my opinion this watch would have been a lot better if they had produced a properly sized dial and hands for the smaller case.
Hi ggongi. I just checked your claim, and you are indeed correct. It is a bit of “cost cutting”, which is understandable at this price. But an outward angle would be more ideal, I agree. It’s something I didn’t notice myself. After having seen it I cannot “unsee” it. But at the end of the day I always tend to look at the watch “as it is” without comparing to others, and ask “Is this watch worth buying if I didn’t have it?”. And the answer I found is that I do want to buy it, if I didn’t have it. But thanks for your sharp eyes!
@@WristMech Hi WM, I agree with you that this is due entirely to cost-cutting. I didn't mean to take away from your or anyone else's enjoyment of this watch -- I enjoy it too, especially at its price point, and don't regret buying it. I posted the same comments as above in a review at Gnomon, which I hope they will take into consideration for future iterations. I have a MkII LRRP UTC milsub no-date also, and with a 42 mm case and 22 mm lugs, that watch is too big and heavy for my wrist. I prefer the way the MkII looks, but much prefer the way this 39 mm Steinhart wears. Stay safe and healthy in this time in which we find ourselves! And thank you for your thoughtful and well-made comparion of the 42 mm and 39 mm OVMs!
Great eye- you’re absolutely correct with your assessment. After noticing this (hour hand looks wide in the 39mm case), I opted for the 42mm version but lightened it up by putting it on a sailcloth strap. Now it’s comfortable and secure on my smaller 6.75” wrist. That 39mm set up does wear well, as I absolutely adore my Ocean 39 Explorer - my all time favorite homage!!
@@willardhooton920 Thanks -- something seemed off to me about the watch as soon as I opened the box. Then I realized what it was by comparing it to other dive watches I have. I would have gone for the 42 but it's too big for my 6.5" wrist. I wound up selling the 39 -- if Steinhart ever make a correctly proportioned 40 mm OVM I'll probably pick it up. Enjoy your watches in good health!
ggongi Thanks! BTW, have you checked out that 40mm NTH Amphion?? MilSub all the way, but with an actual gilt dial! (w/ red triangle on bezel - MilSub and BB 58 had a baby??). Visually one of the nicest vintage inspired divers I have ever seen!! (Still on sale, would have ordered one if I didn’t already have four Steiny Ocean Ones...)
Compared to the new 42mm version (I own it), they also improved the crystal. The crystal on the 39mm is more proheminent of the bezel, giving it a little more vintage touch. Not quite a big dome on its own like the Ocean Vintage but it does not align flat with the bezel like the version 3 of the OVM 42mm. The second thing is that I think the bezel on the 39mm is laquered, not simply printed like the 42mm, making it look more shiny and well finished. Anyway, nice video :) Definetely looking to buy it on their next batch.
I agree on your assessment. Since we cannot obtain the few MilSubs out there for under 6 figures, I am okay with a homage, especially when executed well, like this one. It is not a matter of one just saving a bit of money up to get one. I've seen a few others on the market, but Steinhart seems to have done the best job. I have the same feeling about their Ocean One Vintage GMT, though it is not quite as close without the cyclops. The original Explorer II 1655 in that style goes for over $30,000 and the orange hand is only a 24hr hand and not an actual GMT. While useful for its cave exploring intentions, I believe a GMT function is more useful for the modern watch owner. Anyway, I appreciate the comparison between the 2 sizes. I might like 40mm a bit better, but the 39mm seems to be the better choice of the 2, even though I can wear 42mm. I would just want more of that vintage feel. This is definitely in my top 5 watches to get list.
Hi. I agree that this is one where I am ok with a homage. I hate fake watches and I don’t like copy watches - but this is a true homage because it is so rare and impossible to buy. Steinhart is clearly the best version. I would actually also like a 40mm better than 39mm. I don’t use my 42 any longer, so I have to put it up for sale some time. In any case, a steinhart with a solid nato is a good thing to rock. Take care, and have a great weekend!
So nice to see someone take the time to sink the two watches up with the same time! My O C Ds think your way cool , You for sure took the time and gave a crap 💩 thank you for sharing your valuable opinions, I subscribed!! I’ve got two Steinharts, an ocean one gmt 39 and a 42mm o v red , one of Steinharts best looking watches for sure , and eventually I will have more Steinharts!
Thanks for your view, Mark. Yes, I simply “gave a crap” and just made a long video just for the heck of it. Enjoy your Steinharts!! (Am wearing one right now)
I am just now looking about mechanical watches couple people pointed me towards Steinhart. The watch I wear now is s Garmin Fenix 5 and that is 47 mm and I find it to be ok. I wonder if 39 would be too small to what I am used too. Hmm also I noticed I personally like the goldish patina on the ,39 over the 42
Thank you for this comparison! Can you, please, indicate the diameter of the dial opening from the inner side of the bezel to the inner side of the bezel on the other size. I wonder if it’s the same. thank you in advance and Regards!
I own a bronze 42 ,&a steel ocean 1 42 nice on my 7& half wrist, I also have a Kermit &a vintage double red both 39mm , both sizes are fine, as for wearing a Steinhart I feel safer,wearing a Rolex ( in some situations) can be dangerous in some places.
You could buy mine. For some reason my taste in watches has evolved toward more dressier pieces, so I don’t use mine any longer. So you could buy mine. But arranging payment and shipment is always a hassle. Easier if you can find it new somewhere.
Good review. I like the high polish on the 39mm, and the bezel grip is a bit thinner which makes it look a bit nicer. However, which do you recommend for 7.5 inch wrist? 39mm vs 42mm?
Glad you liked it. With a 7.5 inch wrist you can sport both of them, so it’s a matter of preference. However, I’m totally biased and can only recommend the 39mm. It really does something to the dynamics when the size changes, and the watch doesn’t wobble as much. So I can definitely recommend 39mm. But I know there’s a lot of diehard 42mm lovers out there, and that is fine too. They can then buy my 42mm :-). Enjoy it!
@@WristMech Thanks for that. Yeah, I have the Seiko Sarb035, and its 38mm with 44mm lug height. I love this watch, but its a fraction small on my wrist. I think the OVM 39mm is more closer in size to the SKX007, which I also have, and with the lug height around 47mm. I find the SKX sits nicely on my wrist. I'm not a fan of big watches either. 40mm is my ideal size tbh.
Enjoyed the video. I have a Steinhart Batman titanium and REALY enjoy it. Only negative is your comment on homage watches that you don’t want a Rolex yet you keep comparing it to the Rolex.
I’m getting ready to purchase a Steinhart ocean one but I can’t decide between the 39 or 42. For context I’m 6’6” (198cm) tall and 250lbs (113kg) with a little over 8 inch wrist and I’m worried it will look too small for my frame, should I be concerned or just go for the 42mm? My Apple Watch is 42mm but cause it’s square I’m not sure if it’s directly comparable to a round face watch.
Who says its based on rolex ? A dozen watch companies Omega IWC and a load more got the licences from the MOD to make them ,, rolex was the third in line and was sold for £10 to the MOD , the design was exacly the same for all 12 watch companies , so its really a homage to the ministry of defence designers ,
I said the same thing in the video. Word for word. It was not a Rolex design. I’m not even crediting the MOD. I’m crediting the team of divers that sat down and designed this thing. THAT is why it’s awesome.
This video has costed me 500 usd… I was not even looking for a watch, just wanted to see the difference between the 42 and 39 ocean one. I’ve just purchased this ovm of eBay. I hope it looks as good as here.
Sorry :-) I have been on that road myself. Watching youtube videos can be costly. But when you get the piece I think you will be satisfied with it. Good luck
@@WristMech yes, I think I have done this 4… err 5 times in the past already 😅funnily enough I was just researching the size and not even for this watch which I was not aware of. I have already started to write that’s this is the blant copy but when I watched the whole video till the end I have to agree with everything you said 6 years ago and simply need to try it on. The original 42mm Steinhart case its not very comfortable to wear on a less than 7 1/2” wrist. I’m too old and probably will never own the Rolex and even if I could its just another shape of metal just more expensive. I don’t buy this „prestige” manifestation. Life is too short and might as well enjoy it when we can.
A bit of an update after receiving the watch. I have mixed feelings. First of all, and that’s the thing I liked in this video, is the smaller case and its relationship to the dial. In real life when there are shadows from the lights (unlike diffuse light shown here) the dial looks asymmetrical as part of it is affected by the shadow from the case - think moon phases 🌙. It looks pretty bad in some conditions and if they went for true black rather than grey black dial this would not be such a big issue. The hour markings on the recent edition are really flat and they are levelled with the dial (maybe they have changed the way they apply it - it’s been 6 years after all). There’s an QC issue with hands as they seem to have tiny specs of dust or tiny scratches. They seem to be not smooth when reflecting the light. The bezel - there’s some play in the direction of rotation compared to other watches I used even the Steinhart ones. It’s rock solid on my 42mm original ocean 1. Personally I don’t like the polish on the bezel and sides - it makes it look quite cheap. I could brush off the sides easily for a vast improvement but not the knurling (edit: brushing already done and it looks so much better!) The markings on the bezel seems misaligned, in particular 45 min one, and no, it’s not the crystal refraction but I have a feeling flat crystal would greatly benefit the watch… perhaps. It really should be two directional one like the original though as it’s not easy nor smooth to turn with this polished and slippery edge. One thing which kind of saves it for me, as it can’t be returned (too much to sent it back after paying all the taxes - extra 23% vat if shipped to EU, also don’t take a free gifts from them as it seems to generate more issues at customs than it’s worth) is the size. It wears so much better than 42mm and you can kind of forget it’s on your hand, especially with thin perlon strap.
Also does your Steinhart OVM MK1 on it’s case back engraved sating 660ft or 1000ft? I ask because I’ve noticed the one engraved with 1000ft is more common than the 660ft? What are your thoughts?
I can answer that. The MK1 says 200 meter on the dial and 300 meter on the back. It is really a 300 meter watch, but on the original Rolex it said 200m, so that is why they put that on the dial. They got a lot of comments because of that. Now they just write 300m on both dial and backside.
It's funny. There are many videos on Steinharts. There's one that even opens the casing - no big surprise there - but, can someone talk about the waterproofing? The inside rubber ring on the case is obvious, but what about the crown stem? The Rolex Sub crown stem has three instances of waterproofing, i.e. three rubber seals. One around the case thread; one inside the screw thread; and the last one inside the crown itself. You can bet all these three gives a good seal to the watch. I have a Steinhart Triton 30 ATM and wonders about similar waterproofing strategies around the crown and stem. Can someone advise? Has anybody removed the stem to check??? TQ in advance. ;-)
Buck Rogers Hi there, Buck Rogers (like the name/alias!). It’s a great question you ask. I can talk a lot about design, but when it comes to technical issues like you mention - then I’m the guy who can open the hood of the car and look very “speculative” (but having no clue what I’m looking at). But someone is bound to be technical and know the answer. Would like to know myself :-)
the 42 bezel is way better but mostly because of the grip... larger size and sharper edges. I love both my 39 and my 42, but I think 40 would be perfect.
yes i had the 39mm but it was a bit small , the 42 is perfect the chrystals on these watches are tough , iv beat mine about for two years rarely take it off , like never , whichever you buy you will be happy years down the line , it is a true divers watch ,
Late to the party, but OMG. 23 mins and it never occurred to you to measure whether the dials are the same size to clear whether the hands are the same size on both? :) I took a screenshot (@ 9:17) and measured both dials, and the dials appear to be 30 mm in diameter for the 42 and 29mm in diameter for the 39mm. Hence the dial is .5mm shorter on each half, which is what the minute hands appears to "overlap" if you look closely at how far it reaches the minute track. The 39mm minute hand goes past the markers. Based on this, they are likely the same hands.
Another great review, 👍up given. I know this'll sound like a knitpick but truth be told, The MOD didn't and doesn't "design" the MilSub. MilSub is a set of specification drawn up and given to perspective manufacturers who then in turn design and build their idea of a watch to meet The MOD's given specifications. Example: The hands need not be sword hands or Mecedes hands or any other commonly used type of hands. As long as they meet all and any specs required by the MOD. It could have been Disney's Micky Mouse hands as long as they met the length/width/ability to take a given amount of lume material specification, they're good. (Aren't we glad they didn't choose Mickey's hands?😁)
Hi Arthur. I didn’t know the specifications were that way. That seems kind of loose for a military operation. Imagine them running with mickey mouse hands :-) Anyway, thanks for telling me. Have a great day!
Sorry, but the MOD issued a spec that included a specific design - see Ministry Of Defence Document 66-4 Part 1 / Issue 2. The design is identical to the Omega referenced in the video.
Hi. Good question! The best of the straps (on the 39 mm) is from PhenomeNato Strap - “Admiralty Grey”. I simply pinched the idea from another youtuber having this strap (Bruce), and he directed me to PhenomeNato. Very nice straps. Suggestion: You can also try a light tan leather nato strap. It plays incredibly well with the mustard yellow markings. Enjoy!
Throwing in a second comment, now that I bought the 39mm and sold my 42. I still loved the 42, mind you .. but I thought it a bit redundant to own both sizes - and I do prefer the 39. The smaller case just fits the vintage vibe of the OVM (and of the other three Gnomon-editions) better than the 42mm case. Meaning that it looks and feels more like a vintage piece in 39mm. And while I still own 42mm Steinharts and they fit my wrist quite nicely, the smaller case does sit easier on the wrist IMO. Some days I really dig the larger models, but lots of days the 39mm ones feel better. There are only two gripes I have with the watch ... well, one "real" gripe, if I'm honest: 1. My 42 OVM was the most accurate mechanical I own. I had it re-regulated by Steinhart after a drop and it was running within COSC in everyday wear. +0.5s/day were not unheard of with that thing. The 39 is now about two or three weeks old and will probably settle in a bit more, but it's nowhere near the accuracy of my 42. At the moment it's usually around +4 to +6 s/d. 2. There's no way around the fact that the 39's hand-set is a tad too large for the watch. I had them both side by side and in front of a pic of the MilSub and the hands-to-dial-proportions were spot on with the 42 (how far the individual hands reach out into the minute-track). With the 39, they're just a bit too long. Which is only really noticeable with the minute- and seconds-hands, but it is noticeable. The 39's seconds-hand nearly reaches the steel rehaut and the minute-hand covers about half the length of the minute-track markers. On the MilSub, and on the 42, the seconds-hand covers less than half the length of the minute-track markers and the minute-hand *barely* touches the track markers. It doesn't really bother me though because it's only noticeable if you have the 42 (or a Milsub :D ) sitting next to the 39 for comparison. I'd still highly recommend both versions and I would urge lovers of larger sizes to give the smaller variant a try. It certainly doesn't look like a child's or lady's watch on wrist - if anything, it makes the 42mm watch look weirdly oversized in direct comparison... :)
Hi there. You have some good comments and observations there. Basically neither the 42 or the 39 will match the milsub perfectly, so it’s a personal preference. I just think the 39 hits a sweetspot in size that is closer to the milsub. I enjoy the 39 every time I wear it. I didn’t get around to selling my 42 like you, but I should.
After long time of considering and thinking I have decided to go for 42 mm and I was happy to do it. First of all version 3 of 42 mm that came out recently was improved in many ways... thing i dint like about 39 mm is proportions... that dial is definitely too big for 39 mm cause it firs 42 version perfectly. Rehault is to small not deep enough and looks like cristal is sitting abit to low so I dont even see the chapter ring. That dial/bezel ratio at 39 mm is just off and i didnt like that... Proportions on 42 mm are perfect... i dont mind if minute had extends 1/2 mm shorter... doesn bother me at all. I was afraid watch would be to big but somehow it look just fine on my 7 inc wrist. I had ocean one 39 39 and did not like it for the same reason.. proportions were totaly off... the should have use smaller dial and than it would be perfect... Alo that the price tag on 39 mm makes no sense compared to 42 mm... those were my reasons :)
Couple of things. You put the watch on and its over part of your hand. You wouldn't wear it over the wrist bone or shouldn't.. I have a wrist exact size as you and the 42 looks great. Anything smaller will come across too dainty and feminine.
Hi. In the video I actually agree with you. The 42 “looks” fine, and it certainly doesn’t overhang. So it “should” be fine, but then I (and others I know) just doesn’t wear it as much because it is too bulky and heavy. The 39 feels so much lighter and more wearable. But relativity is a big part of this, as I’m coming from smaller vintage watches, whereas you could be coming from bigger 45 mm watches. In that case a 42 would seem small and light to you. Relativity, just like Einstein said. And the second point about the wrist bone, hmm. It’s just a matter of preference. I like it that way. Just like you like your coffee with milk, and I prefer it black. So Relativity and Preference...
i got this one the le no 8*8 got it for a great price fits nice looks great im happy i didnt buy a rolex sub saved lots of cash good vid very somber thanks you did this watch justice
Assuming you are German... : How much was it after taxes/import fees? I spoke to the Steinhart dealer in Aachen last week and he made it quite clear that neither he nor Steinhart would be selling me a 39mm OVM, so I would have to order from Singapore.
Good for you. That is, after all, closer to the original watch sizes back in time, so it makes sense to me that 39 or 40 mm is more appropriate. Wear it in good health!
@@WristMech i have three 42 ovm mk3 . ocean one 39 . ocean 44 . . ones been in the washing machine on a full 40 minute cycle .. unscathed . totally by accident ..
Willard Hooton Totally agree. Personally I prefer a 39 / 40 mm watch but something is wrong with this 39 mm version. I wish it was the same look, just scaled down.
It’s a long time ago, so I’m not sure. But I think it is a “seatbelt” type of nato (same wowen pattern like a seatbelt). I believe I got it from WatchGecko - but several companies have them.
Gene Martin Hi Gene. I agree, there are actually too many abbreviations. OVM stands for Ocean Vintage Military (sort of, a diver that is vintage inspired and comes from a military design). Too many abbreviations. I usually smile and say: “There too many TLA’s”. (Three Letter Abbreviations) :-)
Just found your channel/and I'm subscribing.I'm no watch maker but ( I ) have been wondering how they used the movements in both watches. And I think I just figured it out. You are the first one ( and I have watched a hell of a lotof videos) the dial must be the same on this watch and the 40,41,42 Tct. That use the 2824 or whatever the ETA # are. I think it is the ring around the dial that makes it bigger. I have a HEUER /pre tag and it is 38/39mm? And the sides are 90deg of the bezel. Then I look at Rolex pics and that ring has engraving on it and it looks to be at a 45 den or so( it has to bo on some angle to see the engraving. Maybe I'm just anal but I have a small wrist and a small watch fits better. Also if it is to big it gets in the way when you work on stuff. Thanks for the video. You are not like all the others. It is the same with everything ( watches,motorcycles,res, trucks) the journalist,bloggers,vlogers seem to just do what marketing tell them. You are a critical thinker and thank you for that
Hi DS. I didn’t even know Dents, but have checked them out. Sounds great. The music in this clip, however, is from bensound.com that provide a lot of background music. But thanks for pointing me to Dents :-)
I have seen a lot of reviews on this watch, and is a pity that Steinhart didn´t release it with something, wich is to my mind, one of the most important things in all Submariner vintages models: and that is the strong curved and tall plexiglass. Why spend money in a sapphire glass, that does not follow the same shape the original watch that are you trying to "homage" does?... I don´t understand that, specially because this is a watch that you buy to enjoy, to use everyday, and not to worry if it get some scratches in the glass (even Steinhart could provide it with a replacement Plexiglass, so you dont´have to worry if you broke it). The other very important thing to me, about the 42mm is the bezel and how rough looks it (the coin edge), in comparison with the 39 mm. Maybe the 39 mm is more accurate to the 5517 in that particular, but the shape of the bezel in the 42mm version I think is far superior and look really like a "Tool", and stands with that message immediately: "this is a real Tool", that´s what that bezel is saying... Regards! and thank you for share your impressions and thoughts !
Hi Frederico. Thanks for your input. You have two observations that are interesting, and one of them is new for me. I have not thought about the domed glass. Perhaps because I have not held a real Milsub (they are too expensive). So I checked my watch. You are right. The glass looks different than a domed Milsub glass. The Steinhart has a slightly domed sapphire crystal, so it is halfway there, but it is not like a bubble plexiglass. I agree with you: If Steinhart had one version in sapphire and one version in domed plexi, I would take the period correct domed plexi. But the sapphire is halfway there and sort of ok. The bezel: I really like the coin edge on the 39 mm and it looks much more correct than the 42mm, so I’m really happy with this improvement. Enjoy your watch, and thanks for your input!
@@WristMech Thank you WristMech. I found very educative your considerations about the range of variations of possibilities on the design issues when it comes to release a watch that invariably will be compared with something so much iconic as the Submariner is (and Oysters in general). I agree with you about the intent of Steinhart here, in comparison for example of what Invicta do with there designs (obviously just plain copies). It is a very difficult issue, because I can not think in other industrial product that had been produced for more than 60 years almost unchanged, been so successful, and been so imitated as the Oyster in general and the Submariner in particular. So, it is very difficult to improve that !, that´s why I think the modification launch in early 2000's was a big mistake... But in a way I think Rolex has been a victim of their own success, because been so vastly imitated tends to trivialize the brand... Unfortunately today the Submariner is not a high-end tool anymore, as it was in the past... But that history is the thing that is interesting to people like you and I. Regards!
Marshal77 Hi. The one I like best is from Phenomenato. It’s called Admiralty Grey. I currently switch between the Phenomenato, a canvas zulu from WatchGecko also a leather zulu. Too many good choices... :-)
@@WristMechgnomon ovm 39 seems to have phenome nato, but whats that on the original ovm 42 ? Seems not phenome but with nice vertical "bars" but still having nice finish.
Marshal77 Hi. Yes, that’s a zuludiver from WatchGecko. They have many zuludiver styles, but I believe this is the “seatbelt” type. It uses the kind of fabric you find in car seatbelts which is why it has that textured effect. Enjoy!
Yifan Li Hmmm, I can see what you mean. From the outside it fits the wrist, so it looks fine. But it “feels” too big on the wrist on a daily wear. So looks and wearability is somewhat different. But I get your point :-)
Hi. Good point. When looking at the price you certainly have to remember the import tax, and also the handling fees which is around 20 usd (in my country). So tax + fees. So you are right. Nobody fooled us into thinking this was a cheap hobby. Even the government get its cut.
Hi. The 42 is for sale :-) But Gnomon is still carrying the 39mm. Visit gnomonwatches and they can help you. They are out of stock now, but you can be put on the list for the next shipment. But you’ve got to hurry, because I think they will not produce it for much longer.
steinhart excellent solid watches , rolex had touts in every watchmakers in the 30s untill the 80s , to be the first with new ideas . i prefer the fact mines an mod design not Rolex with their dodgy history ,
I have the 42mm version and it fits my 8 1/2 inch wrist. Personally I think you are nit picking the watches. You spend more time down grading them then showing the positives. It's the biggest bang for the buck. They are awesome watches.
You have a real mans wrist, so 42mm and higher would be the best for you. It’s like shoes that has to fit your feet. I hope I didn’t talk too much about the negatives. The whole video is done as a tribute to an awesome watch - and now made even more awesome by having more sizes to choose from. I think people can see the tribute, and I agree with you that they are awesome. That’s why they deserved a video. Thanks for participating.
I really like that you don't scream at the camera the way so many other watch reviewers do. Your review was very chill and relaxed. Well done.
That means a lot, thanks!
Shots fired at Nico.
I just received the 42mm mk3 version and it is perfect for my 8.25 inch wrist. It fits me about how the 39mm fits you. The newest 42mm has the colour of the markers match the hands. A plus on the 42mm is the bezel being easier to turn.
Hi. That’s true. With a wrist size above 8, you definitely need the 42mm. And I just recently saw Steinhart making the new 42mm version, so I think you now have the same upgrade to your 42mm regarding lume etc. That’s a big step up, so congrats with that. Wear it in good health and enjoy it!
No it doesn’t. You look silly. Only people don’t want to hurt your feelings.
Love your style of review and choice of music. I have seen all the reviews on UA-cam of this gorgeous timepiece, yours is by far the best! Subbed and liked!
Hi Shahed. Thanks a lot. That makes my day! All the best to you!
Great watch, i have the V1 original with the 660ft-200m on the face and the case back, pretty rare from what i have heard. Not too keen on ocean one written on the face under the Steinhart logo on the newer ones. A very good looking watch thats easy on the eye, the bezel is very sexy with the minute markers all the way around.
Love this video and the music. Made my decision to go with the 39 with my 7 1/4" wrist. I love the looks better and very good points made here. Lume shots would have also been nice. One thing not mentioned and which was part of the deciding factor for me was the back of the watch. The numbering I like better. This will be my second Steinhart as I have the Regulator and love it. I look forward to putting this on a Nato or premium rubber strap. Well done.
Thanks Jeffrey. The missing lume shot, darn it. I always forget it. I’ll try for my next review. Thanks for reminding me!
Really good video with a relaxing vibe to it. I like how you explain your view on the homage topic and I totally agree. The diver expertise (even if I won't need it) is the thing which amazes me about this design. Can't wait to get my 39mm.
Great comment. The homage topic was simply something I had to get off my cheast. Glad you liked it. And if you are getting the 39mm, I’m sure you’ll enjoy it. I feel and notice the “difference” every time I wear it. Enjoy it!!
@@WristMech Thanks for the answer ! Watched your other videos as well and really enjoy the style of them. Hope you keep going
Great review. I bought the 42 without even knowing a 39 was available. Still, these are a very nice watch whatever the size and they feel good in the hand. Still, wish I had the 39!
I'm happy that you got a watch you like in the size that works for you. I have 8 1/2" wrists and the 39 would look like a ladies watch on me.
I have the Steinhard Ocean One 42mm which fits well, but comes in second to my Panzera Flieger 46 which is perfect on me and the watch I waited a long time to find. It is 52mm lug to lug which suits me fine. I can appreciate the sentiment as an homage piece.
It,s the best 5517 Homage you can buy...In either 42mm or 39mm......I also have the Squale Militaire.....And the Steiny beats it hands down.......I own the Black 42mm and the Grey 42mm......And will shortly take ownership of the 39mm OVM......Beautiful pieces all......And on a Bracelet or a Nato.....There are few pieces that give you that true MilSub Vibe like the Steinhart.....Highly recommended, both the Watches and the Company.
I have the 39mm and I love it. This watch will always be desirable and rare in this size. Cheers.
Totally agree! But there’s a contender on the market now. The Tudor BB58 is the same size now. Tempting...
Excellent review & lovely re-edition/homage diving watch. Thank you
Very good and informative video. Love, as already mentioned by others, the calm setting 👍
Thank you, my friend. That is very kind!!
Great watch, I have mine on a grey canvas nato . Had some great comments on it 👍
Enjoy yours
WHAT ARE THE SPECS OF THE SUB MIL ?
Best review and I saw them all! very professional
Mighty glad to hear that, thanks!
Bought my Steinhart 39mm after watching this. Beautifully filmed and very good points made in the video.
Vincent Yeung Hi Vincent. Thanks! I’m glad I could help. That’s what it is all about. Enjoy it in good health. I enjoy mine more and more over time. For example - try fitting a leather nato on it. It really makes the hour markings pop very nicely.
Outstanding and honest review!
Thank you for the work and research you put into this video.
Hi James, I totally missed your comment, sorry. Thanks for your support. Makes me happy!!
Really good review, I was going to buy the 42mm but now im looking for the 39mm, the comment on the matching loom is also very good!
Thank you. That’s why I’m doing this so you can see the difference up close and decide what you need. Good luck going forward!
Fantastic review, I just picked up the 39mm , I will be putting it on a NATO like most of my watches,
spot on review! I have the ovm39 too and I really love it. just wishing that steinhart release a 39mm version of the ocean titanium 500 premium in stainless steel with the upgraded eta movement and ceramic bezel
They actually did this. 😀
Both are nice. I actually prefer the none polished edge on the bezel, it looks better to my eyes.
MericanSport Same. More “tooley”!
Best watch review in UA-cam. Considerately done.
Hello Wind and thanks! You're the reason I'm doing it!
The original Rolex was 40mm as it was just a mod to the 5513. I have the 5513 and the Steinhart 39 like yours. I have no. 300. Love this watch and keeps better time than my Rolex. Great review.
Thanks Nigel. Having the Steinhart as well as the original 5513 is special. Enjoy it!!
@@WristMech The 5513 was for my 18th birthday present and the Steinhart when I turned sixty.
Have ovm1 and it is first ( unrepeatable) . 39 is a nice and will buy one.
Excellent review!
Enjoyed every minutes of this video, thank you.
Appreciate the feedback. Thanks!!
No back-play at all, I just love my OVM 42 mm, and using the blue/grey NATO as well.
The music makes me think of the movie Sling Blade. One of my favorite movies.
Great comment!
I really dig your explanation on homage, copy counterfeit. I am ready to pull the trigger on the OVM 42
Thank you, Ojay. That means a lot. I have my conviction about homage, but I see a lot of people throwing these different terms around and they are not really clear on what they mean. This distinction is - at least for me - making some sense, separating fake, copy and homage into three very different things.
The OVM 42 is fine, so do go for that. If you cannot find one, you can always buy mine. I still have it but only use the 39.
Good day to you sir. Just got my second steinhart 39 in green bezel. It's miraculously beautiful!
Hi vintercav. I haven’t seen the green version in person, but it sure looks great in pictures. Enjoy it!
I just got my 39 mm OVM in the mail from Gnomon. My one complaint about this watch is that they very clearly shrunk a 39 mm case around a dial and hands intended for a larger case. The case crowds the dial: you can tell this when you look at the dial straight on. The inner walls of the case are not visible unless you look at the dial from a steep angle. In most watches, and certainly most vintage dive watches, the inner walls of the case are angled slightly outward away from the dial. On this watch, they seem to be either vertical or maybe even angled slightly inward. In my opinion this watch would have been a lot better if they had produced a properly sized dial and hands for the smaller case.
Hi ggongi. I just checked your claim, and you are indeed correct. It is a bit of “cost cutting”, which is understandable at this price. But an outward angle would be more ideal, I agree. It’s something I didn’t notice myself. After having seen it I cannot “unsee” it. But at the end of the day I always tend to look at the watch “as it is” without comparing to others, and ask “Is this watch worth buying if I didn’t have it?”. And the answer I found is that I do want to buy it, if I didn’t have it. But thanks for your sharp eyes!
@@WristMech Hi WM, I agree with you that this is due entirely to cost-cutting. I didn't mean to take away from your or anyone else's enjoyment of this watch -- I enjoy it too, especially at its price point, and don't regret buying it. I posted the same comments as above in a review at Gnomon, which I hope they will take into consideration for future iterations. I have a MkII LRRP UTC milsub no-date also, and with a 42 mm case and 22 mm lugs, that watch is too big and heavy for my wrist. I prefer the way the MkII looks, but much prefer the way this 39 mm Steinhart wears. Stay safe and healthy in this time in which we find ourselves! And thank you for your thoughtful and well-made comparion of the 42 mm and 39 mm OVMs!
Great eye- you’re absolutely correct with your assessment. After noticing this (hour hand looks wide in the 39mm case), I opted for the 42mm version but lightened it up by putting it on a sailcloth strap. Now it’s comfortable and secure on my smaller 6.75” wrist.
That 39mm set up does wear well, as I absolutely adore my Ocean 39 Explorer - my all time favorite homage!!
@@willardhooton920 Thanks -- something seemed off to me about the watch as soon as I opened the box. Then I realized what it was by comparing it to other dive watches I have.
I would have gone for the 42 but it's too big for my 6.5" wrist. I wound up selling the 39 -- if Steinhart ever make a correctly proportioned 40 mm OVM I'll probably pick it up. Enjoy your watches in good health!
ggongi Thanks! BTW, have you checked out that 40mm NTH Amphion?? MilSub all the way, but with an actual gilt dial! (w/ red triangle on bezel - MilSub and BB 58 had a baby??).
Visually one of the nicest vintage inspired divers I have ever seen!! (Still on sale, would have ordered one if I didn’t already have four Steiny Ocean Ones...)
Why not just offer a 40mm? I have the 39mm and it's too small and the 42 is too big. Too bad.
I am with you on the 39 mm wearing better. I have owned both, but I sold the 42. Imo, wears a little big on my 7 3/8” wrist.
Compared to the new 42mm version (I own it), they also improved the crystal. The crystal on the 39mm is more proheminent of the bezel, giving it a little more vintage touch.
Not quite a big dome on its own like the Ocean Vintage but it does not align flat with the bezel like the version 3 of the OVM 42mm.
The second thing is that I think the bezel on the 39mm is laquered, not simply printed like the 42mm, making it look more shiny and well finished.
Anyway, nice video :) Definetely looking to buy it on their next batch.
Hi Michael. Wow. I didn’t even notice those details. You have a keen eye!
I have 2 42mm &2 39 mm Steinharts, both work for me, love this company. If I HAD to choose...39 wins.
Excellent informative review!
Glad you liked it. That’s what it’s all about. Happy watch hunting!
55mm lug to lug fits fine on my 6.25" wrist because I have a wide wrist.
I agree on your assessment. Since we cannot obtain the few MilSubs out there for under 6 figures, I am okay with a homage, especially when executed well, like this one. It is not a matter of one just saving a bit of money up to get one. I've seen a few others on the market, but Steinhart seems to have done the best job. I have the same feeling about their Ocean One Vintage GMT, though it is not quite as close without the cyclops. The original Explorer II 1655 in that style goes for over $30,000 and the orange hand is only a 24hr hand and not an actual GMT. While useful for its cave exploring intentions, I believe a GMT function is more useful for the modern watch owner. Anyway, I appreciate the comparison between the 2 sizes. I might like 40mm a bit better, but the 39mm seems to be the better choice of the 2, even though I can wear 42mm. I would just want more of that vintage feel. This is definitely in my top 5 watches to get list.
Hi. I agree that this is one where I am ok with a homage. I hate fake watches and I don’t like copy watches - but this is a true homage because it is so rare and impossible to buy. Steinhart is clearly the best version. I would actually also like a 40mm better than 39mm. I don’t use my 42 any longer, so I have to put it up for sale some time. In any case, a steinhart with a solid nato is a good thing to rock. Take care, and have a great weekend!
@@WristMech How much would you be asking for the 42mm? I am looking to purchase one very soon.
@@CookingwithCorrado Hi Corrado. What is your mail address, and then we can discuss a price. In the meantime, Happy New Year!
So nice to see someone take the time to sink the two watches up with the same time! My O C Ds think your way cool , You for sure took the time and gave a crap 💩 thank you for sharing your valuable opinions, I subscribed!! I’ve got two Steinharts, an ocean one gmt 39 and a 42mm o v red , one of Steinharts best looking watches for sure , and eventually I will have more Steinharts!
Thanks for your view, Mark. Yes, I simply “gave a crap” and just made a long video just for the heck of it. Enjoy your Steinharts!! (Am wearing one right now)
I am just now looking about mechanical watches couple people pointed me towards Steinhart. The watch I wear now is s Garmin Fenix 5 and that is 47 mm and I find it to be ok. I wonder if 39 would be too small to what I am used too. Hmm also I noticed I personally like the goldish patina on the ,39 over the 42
The way smart watches wear is totally different, either Steinhart size is fine but I'd recommend the 39 to stay more true to the mil sub original
Thank you for this comparison! Can you, please, indicate the diameter of the dial opening from the inner side of the bezel to the inner side of the bezel on the other size. I wonder if it’s the same. thank you in advance and Regards!
Sorry, I don’t have the bigger size any more. But I think the review shows it somewhat clear. Hope that is enough
Would you please share the brand of your nato’s ? Both looks great!!
Thanks for the video.
Glad you liked it. The 39mm has a PhenomeNato strap “Admiralty grey”. The 42mm has a seatbelt nato from WatchGecko.
I own a bronze 42 ,&a steel ocean 1 42 nice on my 7& half wrist, I also have a Kermit &a vintage double red both 39mm , both sizes are fine, as for wearing a Steinhart I feel safer,wearing a Rolex ( in some situations) can be dangerous in some places.
Where is the strap from looks perfect!
Glad you liked it. The 39mm has a PhenomeNato strap “Admiralty grey”. The 42mm has a seatbelt nato from WatchGecko.
Couldn’t even move my bezel when first got it but gets better with time
Where can i buy the 39mm??? In steinhart’s site isnt no more😢😢😢 HELP
You could buy mine. For some reason my taste in watches has evolved toward more dressier pieces, so I don’t use mine any longer. So you could buy mine. But arranging payment and shipment is always a hassle. Easier if you can find it new somewhere.
gnomon
Just received my 39mm vintage.Watch Number 626 reporting to u, Sir!
vintercav Congratulations! I’ve got no 394. I’m sure you’ll come to enjoy the watch for a very long time. Enjoy!
Whats the name of the music? cant seem to find it on bensound
Hi there. I think it is called “betterdays”. Nice, relaxed tune.
Truly detailed coverage, thank you. By the way, may i ask what nato strap is used on the OVM 39? It looks fantastic.
vintercav Thanks. The 39 has a Phenomenato strap (admiralty grey). The 42 has a WatchGecko zulu with a seatbelt theme. Enjoy!
WristMech thanks alot sir
Good review. I like the high polish on the 39mm, and the bezel grip is a bit thinner which makes it look a bit nicer.
However, which do you recommend for 7.5 inch wrist? 39mm vs 42mm?
Glad you liked it. With a 7.5 inch wrist you can sport both of them, so it’s a matter of preference. However, I’m totally biased and can only recommend the 39mm. It really does something to the dynamics when the size changes, and the watch doesn’t wobble as much. So I can definitely recommend 39mm. But I know there’s a lot of diehard 42mm lovers out there, and that is fine too. They can then buy my 42mm :-). Enjoy it!
@@WristMech Thanks for that. Yeah, I have the Seiko Sarb035, and its 38mm with 44mm lug height. I love this watch, but its a fraction small on my wrist. I think the OVM 39mm is more closer in size to the SKX007, which I also have, and with the lug height around 47mm. I find the SKX sits nicely on my wrist. I'm not a fan of big watches either. 40mm is my ideal size tbh.
Enjoyed the video. I have a Steinhart Batman titanium and REALY enjoy it. Only negative is your comment on homage watches that you don’t want a Rolex yet you keep comparing it to the Rolex.
I am a proud owner of the limited version from Gnomon watches Singapore which I enjoy wearing each and everyday. One watch rule them all.!!!
Of course the 39 mm newer version with steel bracelet.
I’m getting ready to purchase a Steinhart ocean one but I can’t decide between the 39 or 42. For context I’m 6’6” (198cm) tall and 250lbs (113kg) with a little over 8 inch wrist and I’m worried it will look too small for my frame, should I be concerned or just go for the 42mm? My Apple Watch is 42mm but cause it’s square I’m not sure if it’s directly comparable to a round face watch.
Hi Taojin. With an 8 inch wrist I would definitely go for the 42 mm. That will look the best on you. Good luck tracking one down.
Who says its based on rolex ? A dozen watch companies Omega IWC and a load more got the licences from the MOD to make them ,, rolex was the third in line and was sold for £10 to the MOD , the design was exacly the same for all 12 watch companies , so its really a homage to the ministry of defence designers ,
I said the same thing in the video. Word for word. It was not a Rolex design. I’m not even crediting the MOD. I’m crediting the team of divers that sat down and designed this thing. THAT is why it’s awesome.
This video has costed me 500 usd… I was not even looking for a watch, just wanted to see the difference between the 42 and 39 ocean one. I’ve just purchased this ovm of eBay. I hope it looks as good as here.
Sorry :-) I have been on that road myself. Watching youtube videos can be costly. But when you get the piece I think you will be satisfied with it. Good luck
@@WristMech yes, I think I have done this 4… err 5 times in the past already 😅funnily enough I was just researching the size and not even for this watch which I was not aware of. I have already started to write that’s this is the blant copy but when I watched the whole video till the end I have to agree with everything you said 6 years ago and simply need to try it on. The original 42mm Steinhart case its not very comfortable to wear on a less than 7 1/2” wrist. I’m too old and probably will never own the Rolex and even if I could its just another shape of metal just more expensive. I don’t buy this „prestige” manifestation. Life is too short and might as well enjoy it when we can.
A bit of an update after receiving the watch. I have mixed feelings. First of all, and that’s the thing I liked in this video, is the smaller case and its relationship to the dial. In real life when there are shadows from the lights (unlike diffuse light shown here) the dial looks asymmetrical as part of it is affected by the shadow from the case - think moon phases 🌙. It looks pretty bad in some conditions and if they went for true black rather than grey black dial this would not be such a big issue. The hour markings on the recent edition are really flat and they are levelled with the dial (maybe they have changed the way they apply it - it’s been 6 years after all). There’s an QC issue with hands as they seem to have tiny specs of dust or tiny scratches. They seem to be not smooth when reflecting the light. The bezel - there’s some play in the direction of rotation compared to other watches I used even the Steinhart ones. It’s rock solid on my 42mm original ocean 1. Personally I don’t like the polish on the bezel and sides - it makes it look quite cheap. I could brush off the sides easily for a vast improvement but not the knurling (edit: brushing already done and it looks so much better!) The markings on the bezel seems misaligned, in particular 45 min one, and no, it’s not the crystal refraction but I have a feeling flat crystal would greatly benefit the watch… perhaps. It really should be two directional one like the original though as it’s not easy nor smooth to turn with this polished and slippery edge. One thing which kind of saves it for me, as it can’t be returned (too much to sent it back after paying all the taxes - extra 23% vat if shipped to EU, also don’t take a free gifts from them as it seems to generate more issues at customs than it’s worth) is the size. It wears so much better than 42mm and you can kind of forget it’s on your hand, especially with thin perlon strap.
Best review ever
Thank you ever so much. It isn’t true, of course, but it’s enough to keep me going :-) Thanks, and take care
I was planning on buying the 39mm ,but they don't make the ceramic inserts for them. 😩.
I hate aluminum bezels. They are total scratch magnets.
@wristmech what brand nato strap is that?
great video, thank you.
Also does your Steinhart OVM MK1 on it’s case back engraved sating 660ft or 1000ft? I ask because I’ve noticed the one engraved with 1000ft is more common than the 660ft? What are your thoughts?
I can answer that. The MK1 says 200 meter on the dial and 300 meter on the back. It is really a 300 meter watch, but on the original Rolex it said 200m, so that is why they put that on the dial. They got a lot of comments because of that. Now they just write 300m on both dial and backside.
It's funny. There are many videos on Steinharts. There's one that even opens the casing - no big surprise there - but, can someone talk about the waterproofing? The inside rubber ring on the case is obvious, but what about the crown stem? The Rolex Sub crown stem has three instances of waterproofing, i.e. three rubber seals. One around the case thread; one inside the screw thread; and the last one inside the crown itself. You can bet all these three gives a good seal to the watch. I have a Steinhart Triton 30 ATM and wonders about similar waterproofing strategies around the crown and stem. Can someone advise? Has anybody removed the stem to check??? TQ in advance. ;-)
Buck Rogers Hi there, Buck Rogers (like the name/alias!). It’s a great question you ask. I can talk a lot about design, but when it comes to technical issues like you mention - then I’m the guy who can open the hood of the car and look very “speculative” (but having no clue what I’m looking at). But someone is bound to be technical and know the answer. Would like to know myself :-)
bought the 42mm yesterday bcz of my 7.35'' wrist. fits perfectly..
Congrats. You should have bought my 42mm :-) Just kidding. Enjoy the watch!!
the 42 bezel is way better but mostly because of the grip... larger size and sharper edges. I love both my 39 and my 42, but I think 40 would be perfect.
yes i had the 39mm but it was a bit small , the 42 is perfect the chrystals on these watches are tough , iv beat mine about for two years rarely take it off , like never , whichever you buy you will be happy years down the line , it is a true divers watch ,
tom Hughes what is your wrist size. I have 42 mm . I think 39mm may look too small for my 7.5 “ wrist. Thoughts? Thank you
Very good review!
Thank you, Adriano. Glad to make this for you!
Late to the party, but OMG. 23 mins and it never occurred to you to measure whether the dials are the same size to clear whether the hands are the same size on both? :) I took a screenshot (@ 9:17) and measured both dials, and the dials appear to be 30 mm in diameter for the 42 and 29mm in diameter for the 39mm. Hence the dial is .5mm shorter on each half, which is what the minute hands appears to "overlap" if you look closely at how far it reaches the minute track. The 39mm minute hand goes past the markers. Based on this, they are likely the same hands.
Correct :-)
Nice video. Well said.
Great vid. I'm going to guess you are from Germany or Denmark???
You are good at guessing! My accent gives me away. Denmark it is, not Germany :-). Your surname, Danielsen, gives you away as a Dane too :-)
@@WristMech Haha, ja. Jeg er rimelig dansk selv 😁
Med det profilbillede du har på UA-cam ser det næsten ud til at være ved Vesterhavet :-) Sagt af en københavner
@@WristMech Dog ikke. Det er i Helmand. Jeg er dog selv ærke Fynbo 😁
Another great review, 👍up given. I know this'll sound like a knitpick but truth be told, The MOD didn't and doesn't "design" the MilSub. MilSub is a set of specification drawn up and given to perspective manufacturers who then in turn design and build their idea of a watch to meet The MOD's given specifications. Example: The hands need not be sword hands or Mecedes hands or any other commonly used type of hands. As long as they meet all and any specs required by the MOD. It could have been Disney's Micky Mouse hands as long as they met the length/width/ability to take a given amount of lume material specification, they're good. (Aren't we glad they didn't choose Mickey's hands?😁)
Hi Arthur. I didn’t know the specifications were that way. That seems kind of loose for a military operation. Imagine them running with mickey mouse hands :-) Anyway, thanks for telling me. Have a great day!
Sorry, but the MOD issued a spec that included a specific design - see Ministry Of Defence Document 66-4 Part 1 / Issue 2. The design is identical to the Omega referenced in the video.
Hi 👋 please 🙏 check out the MWC 300m sub quit similar, have mine on a tropical strap with Rolex spring bars . Have it a year now absolutely beautiful
Nice job. Where did you pick up those NATO straps?
Hi. Good question! The best of the straps (on the 39 mm) is from PhenomeNato Strap - “Admiralty Grey”. I simply pinched the idea from another youtuber having this strap (Bruce), and he directed me to PhenomeNato. Very nice straps. Suggestion: You can also try a light tan leather nato strap. It plays incredibly well with the mustard yellow markings. Enjoy!
Great thank you for the reply. I'll have a look at the PhenomeNato. Keep up the good work. Cheers.
Where did you get those natos?
Phenomenato is the best nato. Admiralty grey. You can check their website.
Throwing in a second comment, now that I bought the 39mm and sold my 42. I still loved the 42, mind you .. but I thought it a bit redundant to own both sizes - and I do prefer the 39.
The smaller case just fits the vintage vibe of the OVM (and of the other three Gnomon-editions) better than the 42mm case. Meaning that it looks and feels more like a vintage piece in 39mm. And while I still own 42mm Steinharts and they fit my wrist quite nicely, the smaller case does sit easier on the wrist IMO. Some days I really dig the larger models, but lots of days the 39mm ones feel better.
There are only two gripes I have with the watch ... well, one "real" gripe, if I'm honest:
1. My 42 OVM was the most accurate mechanical I own. I had it re-regulated by Steinhart after a drop and it was running within COSC in everyday wear. +0.5s/day were not unheard of with that thing. The 39 is now about two or three weeks old and will probably settle in a bit more, but it's nowhere near the accuracy of my 42. At the moment it's usually around +4 to +6 s/d.
2. There's no way around the fact that the 39's hand-set is a tad too large for the watch. I had them both side by side and in front of a pic of the MilSub and the hands-to-dial-proportions were spot on with the 42 (how far the individual hands reach out into the minute-track). With the 39, they're just a bit too long. Which is only really noticeable with the minute- and seconds-hands, but it is noticeable. The 39's seconds-hand nearly reaches the steel rehaut and the minute-hand covers about half the length of the minute-track markers. On the MilSub, and on the 42, the seconds-hand covers less than half the length of the minute-track markers and the minute-hand *barely* touches the track markers.
It doesn't really bother me though because it's only noticeable if you have the 42 (or a Milsub :D ) sitting next to the 39 for comparison. I'd still highly recommend both versions and I would urge lovers of larger sizes to give the smaller variant a try. It certainly doesn't look like a child's or lady's watch on wrist - if anything, it makes the 42mm watch look weirdly oversized in direct comparison... :)
Hi there. You have some good comments and observations there. Basically neither the 42 or the 39 will match the milsub perfectly, so it’s a personal preference. I just think the 39 hits a sweetspot in size that is closer to the milsub. I enjoy the 39 every time I wear it. I didn’t get around to selling my 42 like you, but I should.
After long time of considering and thinking I have decided to go for 42 mm and I was happy to do it. First of all version 3 of 42 mm that came out recently was improved in many ways... thing i dint like about 39 mm is proportions... that dial is definitely too big for 39 mm cause it firs 42 version perfectly. Rehault is to small not deep enough and looks like cristal is sitting abit to low so I dont even see the chapter ring. That dial/bezel ratio at 39 mm is just off and i didnt like that... Proportions on 42 mm are perfect... i dont mind if minute had extends 1/2 mm shorter... doesn bother me at all. I was afraid watch would be to big but somehow it look just fine on my 7 inc wrist. I had ocean one 39 39 and did not like it for the same reason.. proportions were totaly off... the should have use smaller dial and than it would be perfect... Alo that the price tag on 39 mm makes no sense compared to 42 mm... those were my reasons :)
Well done!!
Couple of things. You put the watch on and its over part of your hand. You wouldn't wear it over the wrist bone or shouldn't.. I have a wrist exact size as you and the 42 looks great. Anything smaller will come across too dainty and feminine.
Hi. In the video I actually agree with you. The 42 “looks” fine, and it certainly doesn’t overhang. So it “should” be fine, but then I (and others I know) just doesn’t wear it as much because it is too bulky and heavy. The 39 feels so much lighter and more wearable. But relativity is a big part of this, as I’m coming from smaller vintage watches, whereas you could be coming from bigger 45 mm watches. In that case a 42 would seem small and light to you. Relativity, just like Einstein said. And the second point about the wrist bone, hmm. It’s just a matter of preference. I like it that way. Just like you like your coffee with milk, and I prefer it black. So Relativity and Preference...
i got this one the le no 8*8 got it for a great price fits nice looks great im happy i didnt buy a rolex sub saved lots of cash good vid very somber thanks you did this watch justice
Hi Robert. Feel the same - glad I didn’t buy a rolex sub. Enjoy in good health!
Assuming you are German... : How much was it after taxes/import fees? I spoke to the Steinhart dealer in Aachen last week and he made it quite clear that neither he nor Steinhart would be selling me a 39mm OVM, so I would have to order from Singapore.
Sorry, I can’t remember. It’s too long ago.
where can we buy these nato straps?
Hi. I can’t remember anymore, but several have asked the question. I answered them the correct answer, so please have a look at the other comments...
I really dig the 42mm!
Hi. Well you are welcome to buy it off me :-)
I have an 8" wrist and can wear a 42mm but, I prefer the 39-40 mm size.
Good for you. That is, after all, closer to the original watch sizes back in time, so it makes sense to me that 39 or 40 mm is more appropriate. Wear it in good health!
42 every time . the 39s always seen just a little small ..great watches that do everything they say on the packets .. tough too
That’s great. There’s room for all sizes. If you need a 42, you can buy mine :-). All the best
@@WristMech i have three 42 ovm mk3 . ocean one 39 . ocean 44 . . ones been in the washing machine on a full 40 minute cycle .. unscathed . totally by accident ..
It is good to see someone who knows what they like and stick to it! Well done
Proportions look better on the 42mm
Willard Hooton Totally agree. Personally I prefer a 39 / 40 mm watch but something is wrong with this 39 mm version. I wish it was the same look, just scaled down.
Great video, I've had my OMV from when it 1st came on out I love it but it is uncomfortable 😔 I am going to have get a 39m after watching your video
Ditto. I went through the exact same process :-)
which nato do you have on your 39mm OVM?
Hi Shahed. I don’t have the name here, but look in the comments. I have answered this question many times. Happy hunting!
What strap do you have the 42mm one on?
It’s a long time ago, so I’m not sure. But I think it is a “seatbelt” type of nato (same wowen pattern like a seatbelt). I believe I got it from WatchGecko - but several companies have them.
What does OVM mean? Old Vintage Model perhaps? thanks
Gene Martin Hi Gene. I agree, there are actually too many abbreviations. OVM stands for Ocean Vintage Military (sort of, a diver that is vintage inspired and comes from a military design). Too many abbreviations. I usually smile and say: “There too many TLA’s”. (Three Letter Abbreviations) :-)
Just found your channel/and I'm subscribing.I'm no watch maker but ( I ) have been wondering how they used the movements in both watches. And I think I just figured it out. You are the first one ( and I have watched a hell of a lotof videos) the dial must be the same on this watch and the 40,41,42 Tct. That use the 2824 or whatever the ETA # are. I think it is the ring around the dial that makes it bigger. I have a HEUER /pre tag and it is 38/39mm? And the sides are 90deg of the bezel. Then I look at Rolex pics and that ring has engraving on it and it looks to be at a 45 den or so( it has to bo on some angle to see the engraving. Maybe I'm just anal but I have a small wrist and a small watch fits better. Also if it is to big it gets in the way when you work on stuff. Thanks for the video. You are not like all the others. It is the same with everything ( watches,motorcycles,res, trucks) the journalist,bloggers,vlogers seem to just do what marketing tell them. You are a critical thinker and thank you for that
Thanks Marshall. I’m just curious by nature, and then sometimes I get too much into the details. But it’s great you liked it!
Did you ever say your wrist size? Maybe I missed it?
Sorry. It 6.9 inches :-)
This is the music from Dents!
Hi DS. I didn’t even know Dents, but have checked them out. Sounds great. The music in this clip, however, is from bensound.com that provide a lot of background music. But thanks for pointing me to Dents :-)
I have seen a lot of reviews on this watch, and is a pity that Steinhart didn´t release it with something, wich is to my mind, one of the most important things in all Submariner vintages models: and that is the strong curved and tall plexiglass. Why spend money in a sapphire glass, that does not follow the same shape the original watch that are you trying to "homage" does?... I don´t understand that, specially because this is a watch that you buy to enjoy, to use everyday, and not to worry if it get some scratches in the glass (even Steinhart could provide it with a replacement Plexiglass, so you dont´have to worry if you broke it). The other very important thing to me, about the 42mm is the bezel and how rough looks it (the coin edge), in comparison with the 39 mm. Maybe the 39 mm is more accurate to the 5517 in that particular, but the shape of the bezel in the 42mm version I think is far superior and look really like a "Tool", and stands with that message immediately: "this is a real Tool", that´s what that bezel is saying... Regards! and thank you for share your impressions and thoughts !
Hi Frederico. Thanks for your input. You have two observations that are interesting, and one of them is new for me. I have not thought about the domed glass. Perhaps because I have not held a real Milsub (they are too expensive). So I checked my watch. You are right. The glass looks different than a domed Milsub glass. The Steinhart has a slightly domed sapphire crystal, so it is halfway there, but it is not like a bubble plexiglass. I agree with you: If Steinhart had one version in sapphire and one version in domed plexi, I would take the period correct domed plexi. But the sapphire is halfway there and sort of ok. The bezel: I really like the coin edge on the 39 mm and it looks much more correct than the 42mm, so I’m really happy with this improvement. Enjoy your watch, and thanks for your input!
@@WristMech Thank you WristMech. I found very educative your considerations about the range of variations of possibilities on the design issues when it comes to release a watch that invariably will be compared with something so much iconic as the Submariner is (and Oysters in general). I agree with you about the intent of Steinhart here, in comparison for example of what Invicta do with there designs (obviously just plain copies). It is a very difficult issue, because I can not think in other industrial product that had been produced for more than 60 years almost unchanged, been so successful, and been so imitated as the Oyster in general and the Submariner in particular. So, it is very difficult to improve that !, that´s why I think the modification launch in early 2000's was a big mistake... But in a way I think Rolex has been a victim of their own success, because been so vastly imitated tends to trivialize the brand... Unfortunately today the Submariner is not a high-end tool anymore, as it was in the past... But that history is the thing that is interesting to people like you and I. Regards!
I do prefer the 41 , i put it on and it stays on , no matter what im doing
what nato straps are these two? very nice looking.
Marshal77 Hi. The one I like best is from Phenomenato. It’s called Admiralty Grey. I currently switch between the Phenomenato, a canvas zulu from WatchGecko also a leather zulu. Too many good choices... :-)
@@WristMechgnomon ovm 39 seems to have phenome nato, but whats that on the original ovm 42 ? Seems not phenome but with nice vertical "bars" but still having nice finish.
Marshal77 Hi. Yes, that’s a zuludiver from WatchGecko. They have many zuludiver styles, but I believe this is the “seatbelt” type. It uses the kind of fabric you find in car seatbelts which is why it has that textured effect. Enjoy!
Great vid.
I've got myself one of these total love it, I'm now waiting for the fixed lug addition for the use of a NATO strap like the original Rolex had.
i epoxy resined my lugs in , completely coated both pins in epoxy , theyre as good as solid pins ,
I actually think the 42 looks better on you.
Yifan Li Hmmm, I can see what you mean. From the outside it fits the wrist, so it looks fine. But it “feels” too big on the wrist on a daily wear. So looks and wearability is somewhat different. But I get your point :-)
42 for sure
The first version of the 42 is the way to go...
That’s ok. I still got it, so you are welcome to buy it from me :-)
If you're from Europe you don't have to pay import taxes on the 42mm version. Might be 60 euro difference.
Hi. Good point. When looking at the price you certainly have to remember the import tax, and also the handling fees which is around 20 usd (in my country). So tax + fees. So you are right. Nobody fooled us into thinking this was a cheap hobby. Even the government get its cut.
P.s. The music IS different but then so is your channel
Want to sell the 39?
Hi. The 42 is for sale :-) But Gnomon is still carrying the 39mm. Visit gnomonwatches and they can help you. They are out of stock now, but you can be put on the list for the next shipment. But you’ve got to hurry, because I think they will not produce it for much longer.
Thanks. I'm on the list. 👍
Steinhart cases are not like Rolex & there different in size ,I like Zulu so bracelets are in the box staying new.
steinhart excellent solid watches , rolex had touts in every watchmakers in the 30s untill the 80s , to be the first with new ideas . i prefer the fact mines an mod design not Rolex with their dodgy history ,
I have the 42mm version and it fits my 8 1/2 inch wrist. Personally I think you are nit picking the watches. You spend more time down grading them then showing the positives. It's the biggest bang for the buck. They are awesome watches.
You have a real mans wrist, so 42mm and higher would be the best for you. It’s like shoes that has to fit your feet. I hope I didn’t talk too much about the negatives. The whole video is done as a tribute to an awesome watch - and now made even more awesome by having more sizes to choose from. I think people can see the tribute, and I agree with you that they are awesome. That’s why they deserved a video. Thanks for participating.