Man your video changed my whole world . I literately jumped out of bed , bought your Kit 5.0 and went to try it !! What the hell I was doing before? how did I do all these paid jobs before lol ! I thought I know what color grading is . Thank you so much man , best purchase in 2019 . I really learned in 10 minutes what I couldn't learn in years . I don't know is it you or I got lucky , but either or I'm so thankful dude !
That channel mixer has changed my entire life. I've been getting so mad with my gh5 lately because i'm constant fighting to get my skin tones right and they were always green/yellow and everyone looked ill. I watched one of your videos before i got vlog so never applied it. I wish i came back sooner, ive fallen in love with this camera again. I've been applying it to all my old footage where I was blaming it on the dark conditions and it's just fixed it all in one click. I honestly can't thank you enough. subbed
Another great video! There are so many ways to do the same things in Lumetri and you show great examples of that here. You are helping me understand the basics of color correction no matter what tools or programs I use. Just by watching you explain it as you do the corrections you give me the best insights on color grading, vlog, and my GH5! Thank you!
There is a software called 3d lut creator and in that software you can input source and target gamut colour primaries and it will calculate the channel mixer values for you to do those changes.
Wow Joonas, thank you so much for this video. There has been many videos out there negatively criticizing the GH5 and its color science. You've just demonstrated the best solution I've seen. Blessings, Mike
Great videos! Could you make a HLG tutorial? I would love to use my GH5/Atomos to create HDR footage but I can't find reliable tutorials. That would be awesome!
Looks great. I've switched over to Resolve for grading V Log, which gives much more control and accuracy with color space transformations. Extended Luma ranges and saturation mapping helps a TON in my experience.
Thank you for your video tutorial - I really like your approach to working with V-log. One question. When your working with v-log can I ask how you set up your sequence in premiere - do you have your colour space set to a Red 709 work space or do you start with a REC 2100 HQ? Just when you drag your clips and add the Lut to change the colour space to 709 - would that negatively effect it? Would love to see a quick video showing your import and export process Thanks for your time Best C
Thank you for the channel mixer tips! What is the best way to automate this? (ie. to avoid having to manually type in the values at the start of each project)
Hi. I m working in GH5s panasonic . I m working the bracheting mode with multiple exposures. Then working the pictures in camera raw. Merging the hdr images and then continue the post processing in photoshop. I ve recently discovered logs and luts. I m not so sure how as a photographer this would give me more dynamic and tonal range than the procedure i m already following. However i find it very useful for filmmakers and videographers. I would like to enlighten me more about that if i m wrong. love your work. Thank you in advance :)
I like the video but don't understand one thing. In 6:41 - why are you using the V-Log to Rec709 LUT in the Creative -> Look? I thought the LUTs are supposed to be used in Basic -> LUT so that all the colour and contrast modifications are applied AFTER the LUT (in the same way as in your first example where you simulate the LUT by Channel Mixer and RGB Curves tweaks). Or not?
Thank you so much for the amazing tips! Is there a similar RGB curves and Channel mixer settings for the LOG function of the Phantom pro4? I usually mix its footage with GH5's and is hard to color match them. I appreciate your time and effort. Keep it up!
The official numbers for phantom 4 d-log are as follows: www.dropbox.com/s/xhy2c5wezepulgh/Screenshot%202018-05-13%2023.56.03.png?dl=0 The sensor might be bit differently calibrated for example d-log on the mavic doesn't look the same as gh5 after correction.
I really like what you've done in this video and I use it for reference a lot. I've noticed though, when I use the same settings you have in channel mixer the pixelation and compression of the footage really shows. In addition to that it causes my renders to slow down greatly. Can you explain these things? Thanks.
If you use premiere, the channel mixer in premier is apparently quite bad. Slow and migth only work in 8bits. I have started to use the channel mixer so that I set lower saturation values to the matrix and the rise the saturation only for midtones. This will give me a cleaner end result.
@@JooWorks The values you have in channel mixer makes the footage look so much better! But it's so slow and almost crashing my fast machine. Is there a LUT you could make that creates the same values as your channel mixer but doesn't slow down renders?
Awesome Channel.. I subbed. Whats your suggestion on Sharpness & Noise reduction settings when using V-Log L? I have found very little information online on this topic. Thanks.
@@jaina_nice There is more and less sophisticated tools. For example the channel mixer is something you can't emulate with any other tool. So if you have the right tools your are good and you know how to use them.
I tried this with a Panasonic DVX-200 and it didn't work as simple as this - it looked very washed out and lacked any saturation. Is this because the Channel mixer settings might be wrong?
Hi. Amazing video! I recently got my V-Log and I have a question - what settings do you use for the color profile? Do you have a specific Sharpness or Noise Reduction values set? I never really played with them, no matter the color profile I used, so I'm just wondering if there is a universally good one :D
Where did you get the numbers for the channel mixer. You criticized youTubers for using their eyes - but no explanations as to how or why each change in the channel mixer is determined. Telling people to copy those numbers is not educational for them. They may as well apply the LUT.
Jim Robinson The LUTs inside the kit are done with the channel mixer, but there is bit more magic done when it comes to the gamma correction and out of gamut colours, so I wound recommend using the luts. I would really like to nerd out and explain how the channel mixer works, because it's so powerful tool, but for now I'll just say that these number have been copied from official numbers given in white papers.
Let's keep it professional. :-D Jim music video looks great! Some inconsistencies with colour, but so do I. I'm often so lazy that I don't care about them even if I see them. It's a pain in the ass to do things perfectly when you are doing something fully or partly pro bono. Keep up the good work everyone!
Bassbeats they are for v-log. If g7 stoots v-log they are the same. But I think it doesn't... in the colour kit there is a lut to turn cine-d to v-log. Then you can use the same method as in this video.
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Jesse Koivukoski I was about to add it to this tutorial, but didn't in the end... with v-log you can fix wb quite acurately in post. With the sliders in premiere pro you get ok results, but with some lut's you get really good wb fix in post. And when you are shooting in a situation like this where the sun is setting and the wb changes all the time you often end up closer to the correct wb with auto that with manual.
i tried to use your cine d to v-log lut but it just made it crazy grey even when i played with the intensity (i tried cine d -> vlog and another layer vlog -> rec 709). the cine d to rec 709 worked well but 👍
I think v-log in 8bits is rather bad. :-/ I get better result by shooting cine-d (iso 200) and then using a LUT from the KIT to turn that into (semi) v-log. But i still prefer 1080p 50p 10bit v-log over 4k 50p 8bit.
The Film lut has that shift. I should fix that, but it's easy to fix by just adjusting WB to green. But hmm... if you use FCPX it's not that easy. I should fix that.
Okay. I use FCPX actually, but I'm able to fix it just fine with a plugin. Other than that, I love what I'm seeing man! I'm really digging the punchy look. Keep up the good work!
Did you change the names for the LUTS (removing the word Gamma 1 2 .3 etc)? I bought and downloaded the pack, but mine is just named film/video/original and so on.
Great vid! How do you deal with the macbook's P3 screen in color correction, when premiere assumes you have a rec.709 monitor? AFAIK there is no way to display the correct colors in premiere on the macbook's screen.
Thanks for this tip. :-D I have been trying to get my head around the correct colours when correcting in premiere and resolve. I can easily create LUTs to correct the look, but first I need first to understand what is happening. Can you tell me more about this P3 and where can I find more info about it? Thanks. You can email me too joonas@jooworks.fi
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Help! I shot a video in 4k 24fps, 400iso, 10bit Vlog mode. But when I went home and saw the footage, there was light amount of noise going on. Was it bcs I use wrong native iso??
Great work! How do you make your channel mixer numbers? I work with sony, and tried lut creator and colorchecker but the colors are way off every time.. Do you have a consistent way og making the colors right? Or is it maybe because i dont have the bit depth to work with as you have?
I open a frame in lut creator with my color checker in it, and click on the little colorchecker icon. choose x-rite, place the color grid and click match and export the lut. but when i try to use it in photoshop or premiere on a clip with my same Slog it is way over saturated and off in the colors with a lot of banding to... I can maybe send you examples later if i may? I'm off to work now, so a bit later perhaps?
Rule of thumb is to get as close to the end result without any "interpretation" like setting correct values into the program and only after that calibrate with the x-rite. So Log you need to set the channel mixer first (small arrow in top right part of the colour are and choose "create a colour space transform matrix" Then create you matrix) Then set your log settings, then your exposure, then your WB and then you do you calibration. Calibration is always the last thing you do.
FCPX has a "Luma Keyer" effect, but it's mainly used to cut out portions of one clip so you can see another clip behind it. I suppose I could duplicate the same clip and adjust luma for the sky on one clip and the shadows on another clip directly below. But it seems to be easier in Adobe Premier, unless I am missing something. Anyway, thank you for your kind reply!
Finally someone who doesn't forget color space transformation :)
Attila Bakos how make same with S-log?
Man your video changed my whole world . I literately jumped out of bed , bought your Kit 5.0 and went to try it !! What the hell I was doing before? how did I do all these paid jobs before lol ! I thought I know what color grading is . Thank you so much man , best purchase in 2019 . I really learned in 10 minutes what I couldn't learn in years . I don't know is it you or I got lucky , but either or I'm so thankful dude !
Thanks Man!
This is an incredible video
That channel mixer has changed my entire life. I've been getting so mad with my gh5 lately because i'm constant fighting to get my skin tones right and they were always green/yellow and everyone looked ill. I watched one of your videos before i got vlog so never applied it. I wish i came back sooner, ive fallen in love with this camera again. I've been applying it to all my old footage where I was blaming it on the dark conditions and it's just fixed it all in one click. I honestly can't thank you enough. subbed
Another great video! There are so many ways to do the same things in Lumetri and you show great examples of that here. You are helping me understand the basics of color correction no matter what tools or programs I use. Just by watching you explain it as you do the corrections you give me the best insights on color grading, vlog, and my GH5! Thank you!
Great info, thanks! How did you find that channel mixer values?
There is a software called 3d lut creator and in that software you can input source and target gamut colour primaries and it will calculate the channel mixer values for you to do those changes.
Nice, good to know, thanks!
Wow Joonas, thank you so much for this video. There has been many videos out there negatively criticizing the GH5 and its color science. You've just demonstrated the best solution I've seen.
Blessings,
Mike
Thank you for creating the best instructional channel for those looking to start color correction but in the most correct way possible!
Easily one of the best color correction videos I've ever seen
I've spent hours watching videos and this was the first one that made sense to me and actually helped my footage. Thank you so much!
This might be the best explanation of color correcting/grading that I've ever seen
First video on Vlog that actually makes sense. Thanks fam
Great videos! Could you make a HLG tutorial? I would love to use my GH5/Atomos to create HDR footage but I can't find reliable tutorials. That would be awesome!
Perfect! thanks!
This is the most helpful video on color correcting ive seen! Thank!
Looks great. I've switched over to Resolve for grading V Log, which gives much more control and accuracy with color space transformations. Extended Luma ranges and saturation mapping helps a TON in my experience.
Holy Molly, this is awesome. Now I am inspired more towards the color grading side of editing.
Wow! Thank you so very much. Just the fast color correction made a wold of difference. You have made things much better for me.
This is one of the best color correction video that ive ever seen
Used this on Gh4 footage and the results are superb!
Can you do more work with Canon cameras? This was great work!
Excellant video, very much appreciated.
Thank you for your video tutorial - I really like your approach to working with V-log. One question. When your working with v-log can I ask how you set up your sequence in premiere - do you have your colour space set to a Red 709 work space or do you start with a REC 2100 HQ? Just when you drag your clips and add the Lut to change the colour space to 709 - would that negatively effect it?
Would love to see a quick video showing your import and export process
Thanks for your time
Best
C
Can i use this settings for channel mixer for S5 Vlog color transform?
hi great tutorial ... how do you expose vlog ?? one or two stops over thanks
ua-cam.com/video/vX8_zect8ag/v-deo.html Here is a video about it.
Thank you for the channel mixer tips! What is the best way to automate this? (ie. to avoid having to manually type in the values at the start of each project)
DUDE I LOVE YOU! This is probably the best colour correction video I have seen. Because I do have problem with Panasonic's colour science.
Shane Gentles great to be at service.
Great Video, Sir! Your approach is very different from others, keep up the good work AND please share more about GH5/GH5S vlog color grading, thank!
Hi, great video! I use davinci resolve. Is there a place there to put the vales you use in the channel mixer from premier?
Thanks for the tutorial. Do you have any similar tips for cinelike d?
Aaron Smith the colour kit I use has a LUT in it to re-map cine-d colours to v-log. Then you can do this samething with that. :-)
Hi. I m working in GH5s panasonic . I m working the bracheting mode with multiple exposures. Then working the pictures in camera raw. Merging the hdr images and then continue the post processing in photoshop. I ve recently discovered logs and luts. I m not so sure how as a photographer this would give me more dynamic and tonal range than the procedure i m already following. However i find it very useful for filmmakers and videographers. I would like to enlighten me more about that if i m wrong. love your work. Thank you in advance :)
will these work for the vlog off the panasonic s1
his stuff is all amazing. I've learned so much watching and doing exactly what he says! Try it, you'll be impressed.
Great video! thanks for the explination!
Wow, you know what you're doing. Thank you for this!
You are a master, thank you for sharing this information freely.
Great tutorial, really loved it. I'm using a Sony a6000 flat custom profile, and it worked really great. Thank you so much!
Theryos Alfhadhún really? That's interesting that it worked there as well. :-D
I like the video but don't understand one thing. In 6:41 - why are you using the V-Log to Rec709 LUT in the Creative -> Look? I thought the LUTs are supposed to be used in Basic -> LUT so that all the colour and contrast modifications are applied AFTER the LUT (in the same way as in your first example where you simulate the LUT by Channel Mixer and RGB Curves tweaks). Or not?
Try it and you know. When you edit the fooatge as v-log before the Lut, the results are simply better. :-)
@@JooWorks OK thanks, will try that
are you in Sri Lanka?
How is it about the white balance you mentioned in the video? Why are you using automatic white balance when shooting with v-log?
Thank you so much for the amazing tips! Is there a similar RGB curves and Channel mixer settings for the LOG function of the Phantom pro4? I usually mix its footage with GH5's and is hard to color match them. I appreciate your time and effort. Keep it up!
The official numbers for phantom 4 d-log are as follows: www.dropbox.com/s/xhy2c5wezepulgh/Screenshot%202018-05-13%2023.56.03.png?dl=0
The sensor might be bit differently calibrated for example d-log on the mavic doesn't look the same as gh5 after correction.
Much appreciate it! Will give it a try. Thank you very much!
Just try exactly as you told with V log on my Lumix S1. It works perfectly well !
Hi Joo, wGreat Shot ! Which lens do you turn with?
Sliman Keita Abioui I think this was all sigma 18-35mm
Thank for yout answer :D I love your job :D
I really like what you've done in this video and I use it for reference a lot. I've noticed though, when I use the same settings you have in channel mixer the pixelation and compression of the footage really shows. In addition to that it causes my renders to slow down greatly. Can you explain these things? Thanks.
If you use premiere, the channel mixer in premier is apparently quite bad. Slow and migth only work in 8bits.
I have started to use the channel mixer so that I set lower saturation values to the matrix and the rise the saturation only for midtones. This will give me a cleaner end result.
@@JooWorks The values you have in channel mixer makes the footage look so much better! But it's so slow and almost crashing my fast machine. Is there a LUT you could make that creates the same values as your channel mixer but doesn't slow down renders?
Great lesson on how to do it properly 🍻
Hello Joo, How make soft skin on GH5 Its there any method make skin soft?
Perfect. Does channel mixer good for cinelike? thanks!
Awesome Channel.. I subbed. Whats your suggestion on Sharpness & Noise reduction settings when using V-Log L? I have found very little information online on this topic. Thanks.
Good explanation bro. Bravo!
hey joo! Could you perhaps do a tutorial on how to grade like tim kellner?
Nice video and very good explanation ! Thx !
Color god!
How did it go qith my tip about color chart that you use that match color thing and make a lut.
can i grade v-log file without luts and only with color grading plugin?
Sure. LUTs are just "presets" done with other tools. But there is alot of good luts out there, and bad ones as well.
@@JooWorks AH, i understand... but i dont have to use luts, i can only normally color grading?
@@jaina_nice There is more and less sophisticated tools. For example the channel mixer is something you can't emulate with any other tool. So if you have the right tools your are good and you know how to use them.
Hey man. Are you still around Asia? where exactly? I am really enjoying your channel.
Where can I find the Color Mixer values for something like SLOG2?
Awesome video, I don't have a GH5, I have a Sony A7iii but found this really helpful. Thanks
Color channel seems to work similar to to Panasonics rec709 LUT
Thanks dude this is the best
learning more from each video, thank man !
Very helpful. Thanks!
Great video! man
great thank you! do you plan to make also some tutorials for fcpx or resolve? than it would be a bit easier to follow for non adobe users.
Lazuright Studios I don't have a lisence for fcpx, but for you can find videos inside the course how to do this.
I tried this with a Panasonic DVX-200 and it didn't work as simple as this - it looked very washed out and lacked any saturation. Is this because the Channel mixer settings might be wrong?
Could you send me some clips, I would love to see some v-log from dvx-200... Can you send me some here: joo.works/feedback
Hi, I got your stills. Looks good. How did you fix the colours in the graded one?
Awesome footage and tutorial, thanks for sharing!
Just couldn't follow that at all you looked at the numbers in the channel mixer and I'm not sure what you did with them.
Is this the same for GH5S?
Pretty much. There migth be some small nyances between these cameras, but most likely not that much.
the channel mixer doesn't work on all the vlog settings.
very very good tutorial .. thanks
Hi. Amazing video! I recently got my V-Log and I have a question - what settings do you use for the color profile? Do you have a specific Sharpness or Noise Reduction values set? I never really played with them, no matter the color profile I used, so I'm just wondering if there is a universally good one :D
Where did you get the numbers for the channel mixer. You criticized youTubers for using their eyes - but no explanations as to how or why each change in the channel mixer is determined. Telling people to copy those numbers is not educational for them. They may as well apply the LUT.
Jim Robinson The LUTs inside the kit are done with the channel mixer, but there is bit more magic done when it comes to the gamma correction and out of gamut colours, so I wound recommend using the luts. I would really like to nerd out and explain how the channel mixer works, because it's so powerful tool, but for now I'll just say that these number have been copied from official numbers given in white papers.
So sorry, you just need to copy them just like I copied them. :-D
Jim Robinson is a genius when it comes to Color correction, I second his question.
Checked Jim's correction, It's all over the place. Watch Pin Up Girl. No.
Let's keep it professional. :-D Jim music video looks great! Some inconsistencies with colour, but so do I. I'm often so lazy that I don't care about them even if I see them. It's a pain in the ass to do things perfectly when you are doing something fully or partly pro bono. Keep up the good work everyone!
those numbers you show on the channel mixer are also good for panasonic G7? If not, can you show me which ones could I use, please? :)
Bassbeats they are for v-log. If g7 stoots v-log they are the same. But I think it doesn't... in the colour kit there is a lut to turn cine-d to v-log. Then you can use the same method as in this video.
thanxs :) works so good
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v_log L Lumix g100 please
This is the same for the GH5S right?
This was so helpful. Thank you. 🙏🏻
why U use AWB ?:) great tutorial :)
Jesse Koivukoski I was about to add it to this tutorial, but didn't in the end... with v-log you can fix wb quite acurately in post. With the sliders in premiere pro you get ok results, but with some lut's you get really good wb fix in post. And when you are shooting in a situation like this where the sun is setting and the wb changes all the time you often end up closer to the correct wb with auto that with manual.
thanks for the iformation..and keep up the good tutorials :)
Great tutorial man, thank you!
Boss that is some good work
Hi! Thank you for this. However, me and I believe that many others dont have vlog so could you do this for cine-d?
AMAZING! Thank you!
i tried to use your cine d to v-log lut but it just made it crazy grey even when i played with the intensity (i tried cine d -> vlog and another layer vlog -> rec 709). the cine d to rec 709 worked well but 👍
Matthew B interesting. Can you send me a tiff still or original short clip to joo.works\feedback and I'll do you a screencast about it.
Slightly off topic, but do you shoot V-log in 8bit too, such as for slow motion work?
I think v-log in 8bits is rather bad. :-/ I get better result by shooting cine-d (iso 200) and then using a LUT from the KIT to turn that into (semi) v-log. But i still prefer 1080p 50p 10bit v-log over 4k 50p 8bit.
Joo.Works cheers, appreciate the response and your work :)
Great!
Good. you explained very well... It is good to know it
Is it normal that I'm seeing a shift toward magenta when I use your LUTs?
The Film lut has that shift. I should fix that, but it's easy to fix by just adjusting WB to green. But hmm... if you use FCPX it's not that easy. I should fix that.
Okay. I use FCPX actually, but I'm able to fix it just fine with a plugin. Other than that, I love what I'm seeing man! I'm really digging the punchy look. Keep up the good work!
Dude great stuff.
I to use a layer and multi. Its make the footage to pop.
I still don't understand v-log. I've just acquired a GH5 and have Avid MC. From the top, what to do?
Did you change the names for the LUTS (removing the word Gamma 1 2 .3 etc)? I bought and downloaded the pack, but mine is just named film/video/original and so on.
exactly. :-)
Cool, i did this but i have some noise on my footage
Great vid! How do you deal with the macbook's P3 screen in color correction, when premiere assumes you have a rec.709 monitor? AFAIK there is no way to display the correct colors in premiere on the macbook's screen.
Thanks for this tip. :-D I have been trying to get my head around the correct colours when correcting in premiere and resolve. I can easily create LUTs to correct the look, but first I need first to understand what is happening. Can you tell me more about this P3 and where can I find more info about it? Thanks. You can email me too joonas@jooworks.fi
Mr Joo.Works：
I bought THE COLOUR CORRECTION KIT ,BUT I don't know where to download ，need your help
I think you should check your email.
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And here is my email: joonas@jooworks.fi
Fantastic! I have your kit, but need to learn to use it better.
Help! I shot a video in 4k 24fps, 400iso, 10bit Vlog mode. But when I went home and saw the footage, there was light amount of noise going on. Was it bcs I use wrong native iso??
All log footage has noise in the shadow, when you colour correct it you can push the shadows down to look clean.
Great work! How do you make your channel mixer numbers? I work with sony, and tried lut creator and colorchecker but the colors are way off every time.. Do you have a consistent way og making the colors right? Or is it maybe because i dont have the bit depth to work with as you have?
Bjørn Pierri Enevoldsen hmm... what was your exact process in 3d lut creator?
I open a frame in lut creator with my color checker in it, and click on the little colorchecker icon. choose x-rite, place the color grid and click match and export the lut. but when i try to use it in photoshop or premiere on a clip with my same Slog it is way over saturated and off in the colors with a lot of banding to... I can maybe send you examples later if i may? I'm off to work now, so a bit later perhaps?
Rule of thumb is to get as close to the end result without any "interpretation" like setting correct values into the program and only after that calibrate with the x-rite. So Log you need to set the channel mixer first (small arrow in top right part of the colour are and choose "create a colour space transform matrix" Then create you matrix) Then set your log settings, then your exposure, then your WB and then you do you calibration. Calibration is always the last thing you do.
12:40 How do I mask the same way in FCPX? (Easily mask out the darks so I can edit only the highlights?)
JDW migth there be somthing like a "luma mask" or "luma key"? I'm not familiar with fcpx
FCPX has a "Luma Keyer" effect, but it's mainly used to cut out portions of one clip so you can see another clip behind it. I suppose I could duplicate the same clip and adjust luma for the sky on one clip and the shadows on another clip directly below. But it seems to be easier in Adobe Premier, unless I am missing something. Anyway, thank you for your kind reply!
Your funny but awesome!
U are a fking legend sir !