Mine was very poor quality control. Tang pins were way off to one side and the knife had so much blade/handle play that couldn't be adjusted out of the knife. I did want to love it. Everyone says "well what do you expect for $120?" to which I say, would you accept that substandard level of quality control from any other type of $120 folding knife?
You made a good review here! When you took the G-10 slabs off you made me think about routing my own holes or hollow shafts in the steel liners to lighten the knife, add grip and make the knife more like the past kimura models without the G-10 grips. Thanks.
Same here actually... I ordered this and I'm waiting for it in the mail. I was thinking of taking off the scales because I thought it looked like the older ones underneath but it doesnt.. so I thought about doing that too lol
Great review, I subscribed. I have a lot to learn about Balisongs I just got one for $90 from BHQ... I'm a Knife guy, got a mid sized Pelican case of folders, a shelf of fixed blades, a couple of swords, and OTFs/ Autos... But this is my first Bali. So far I really like it, I can't speak for the flipping since I'm new to it and have nothing to compare it with, but fit&finish and quality wise it's really good. Exceptional for the money, even if I spent the $120 I would give it a good value score. I think I got a good one because it does not have any of the issues I've heard others point out with theirs, was not stiff out of box, all the handle screws were tight, uniform blade finish... I will say though I'm not a fan of bead blast finishes, aesthetically great, but functionally they show wear easily and are more prone to rust.
Kimura it's AWESOME bali...I have mine 6-7 years,maybe more and its like newone after years and years & years of heavy flipping...it's a little bit on the "short" size but,when you "get together" after some time,everyone will LIKE it and the quality of the knife is good,especially for that kind of money/quality range ! ! ! Just keep FLIPPING ! ! ! !
It's an excellent entry knife. I've had mine a week and I honestly only have a couple small complaints overall. The blade and washer stack is thicker than the spacers which is what I suspect to be the cause of the stiff handles. Basically I think that the washers are being pinched on one side instead of applying even pressure. The only other stand out complaints I have are the odd size hardware that is super soft (I've stripped both a t6 spacer screw head and the threads of a scale screw with little torque) and the scales are machined very rough which I don't find the best. Thankfully the washers can be sanded down, the screws are replaceable, and I'm in the process of making some new CNCed scales made in 3 different styles.
Seems like ur getting into the bali’s Recently ..I could be wrong but it seems like in the last year or so?...I’ve had a 62 for a few years..it was my first and I didn’t mess with it much ..then I got a Dragonfly and a few Tachyons...2002 gen and the Tach 2 from 2012/13...I played around with my gen 1 Tachyon and started to enjoy the “habit” I still have the 62, and have added a Mayhem, (3) Tachyon 2s, (3) 1st gen Tachyons, a Szabofly, and a Titanium Metalmark and a 87.... The Ti Metalmark is just freaking incredible in the fit and finish..I got it for $300 on EBay...couldn’t believe it 😳😁😃...ZERO play..like the 87...which consequently is the knife that has been residing in my hand since I got it...it’s the same length as the Tachyon 2, which many flippers seem to love...but the 87 is easier for me to keep a grip on and transfer...what a knife!!
great video man, but i would have to say that i wouldn't recommend the knife to a beginning flipper based on the weight, a nearly 6 oz knife can cause much deeper and worse cuts during aerials and fast moving tricks, this happens on other heavier balisongs like the barebones and 6x series. Keep up the good work!
Took two weeks to get, took two weeks to break. It came with a screw in the scales stripped and the latch screw was stripped. Two weeks in the tang pin fell out.
I love mine, good action, good tang pins, nice latch. Good blade shape and steel. BUT... when it arrived the scale screw heads on one whole handle side were stripped out of the box. Fortunately I wanted to run it with bare metal handles so I don't care that I destroyed those 6 screws taking them out but that annoyed me that it was damaged by the initial assembly. Great design and quality knife but someone needs to up the QC unless I just got a dud.
My Kimura was extremely stiff, the torx screws had way to much tightener on it. The tightener got into the bearing and the screws were basically stripped when I got it. Any way to get that fixed?
Yes I would anyting in that price range it is built to last will not be the absolute best flipper but should last take a decent beating I do think the kimura as well as the bear Ops b200 b400 are good starter options for a live blade
Great review as always. Just found that these were on sale on BHQ for Cyber Monday for $89... I figure if you think it’s a great deal at 120, I’m obligated to try one for $90. Great video as always.
I need a good edc and a flipping balisong ive narrowed it down to the bradley kimura that you have and the boker plus balisong which is better in your opinion?
@@FrenchBalisongRyder butterflyknifekits.com for the bearings and for tang pins I suggest jb weld it is a metal epoxy put some on the pins and push them back in let it sit for 24 hours
Sean Russell ok thanks you for your help, but did you have any troubles with tang pins..? because i have never seen this trouble with my tang pins in general with my balisong CCC or high quality.. anyway I’m agree the epoxy is the best way for this issue.. thanks again and sorry for my English I’m French
hey whats up, I bought one of these knives and I have been wondering if the spring latch sold on exiled cutlery will work on this model, and if it does than is it worth it or is it not good?
It depends the pivots usually vary in size between 8 or 10 Torx driver and they come with red Loctite into from the factory so you will have to use some heat to break the bond
i just got mine today, and the safe handle wont budge... Hopefully it'll break in soon. should really test the product before you ship it out in my opinion
The 901 number should be the color model number for example BCC901 how you search the knife on google is od green g10, and BCC904 is black and red g10. Hope that helps anyone with yhat question. Numbers are all BCC901-905.
You should try to get a maxace DMG they run for around 140$ it has bearings G10 scales steel liners and a 440c it a really good buget friendly balisong
My take a heavy bali to learn on is key to strengthening your fingers amd wrist and hand. You need that to not feel fatigue from flipping. Not knowing being new to flipping. Your use muscles in hand and fingers that not use to be using constantly. You want to build them up cause if u start to feel the burn then you will not only miss tricks but in danger yourself in a bad cut. Thats my take on it.
My take on things: carry a knife that's sturdy and reliable, yet simple enough to deploy that an untrained child could use it. There's literally dozens of superior knives available that are approximately the size/weight/cost as these overpriced toys..
I’m a knife nut not a flipper.. I’m getting into Bali’s but goddamn the prices.. then to hear that a 120 blade has issues.. I got a schrade 7oz monster of steel. I can flip it open and that’s about it. Learning on a ccc bm clone for 16 bones ( keep your hate down ) and another on the way. Will I buy a premium Bali?? Idk ? I want a boker one but fucking USA won’t let boker bring em in
I dont really think its worth it. The washers arent broad enough to stop the handle play which leads to blade tap. Over time with flipping this will wear away the finish at the spine which made me angry. So i decided to try tightening the pivot screws. To my surprise they are cheap and i stripped the safe handle screw. This would be okay, except there is no way to get the right screws from the company. The bladeshape is nice, the g10 scales are nice. And even with play and tap mine flips well. And mine came out the box sharp. I like what its going for, but the quality just makes it not worth for me in the end.
@@nathenstone4147 They've got a great handle and scale design; I kinda really like the OD green.... But, the blade profile I'm not a huge fan of, and the fact that they're B&S makes me really not want to buy it, cuz I'd rather not shell out a whole Bill and then have to give it a thorough inspection and Loctite job on all the fasteners right out the box... I'd rather just stick with Hom...
SSKUCH 130307 ok, bradly was good for its simplicity, reliability, and bang for your buck. Now, when you introduce bear and sons, who are known for their terrible rustic unreliable knives. Now what happens when you give that bad company the job to continue the lineage of an amazing knife who people have been missing for years? They mess it up terribly, introducing g10 on top of ss and no truly original design
Mine was very poor quality control. Tang pins were way off to one side and the knife had so much blade/handle play that couldn't be adjusted out of the knife. I did want to love it. Everyone says "well what do you expect for $120?" to which I say, would you accept that substandard level of quality control from any other type of $120 folding knife?
I agree, that's alot of money for a pos. Mine just broke and it's going back
@Rich Scales where did you buy yours, ive been looking for one
To Release is To Resolve good to hear. Had no idea
Haven't even had it for a half hour and I want to send it back
can you get a full refund?
You made a good review here! When you took the G-10 slabs off you made me think about routing my own holes or hollow shafts in the steel liners to lighten the knife, add grip and make the knife more like the past kimura models without the G-10 grips. Thanks.
Same here actually... I ordered this and I'm waiting for it in the mail. I was thinking of taking off the scales because I thought it looked like the older ones underneath but it doesnt.. so I thought about doing that too lol
Great review, I subscribed. I have a lot to learn about Balisongs
I just got one for $90 from BHQ... I'm a Knife guy, got a mid sized Pelican case of folders, a shelf of fixed blades, a couple of swords, and OTFs/ Autos... But this is my first Bali. So far I really like it, I can't speak for the flipping since I'm new to it and have nothing to compare it with, but fit&finish and quality wise it's really good. Exceptional for the money, even if I spent the $120 I would give it a good value score. I think I got a good one because it does not have any of the issues I've heard others point out with theirs, was not stiff out of box, all the handle screws were tight, uniform blade finish... I will say though I'm not a fan of bead blast finishes, aesthetically great, but functionally they show wear easily and are more prone to rust.
“I have a lot of respect for that company.”
*Drops the knife*
Yesterday i looked this knife up and now you bring a video on it!
nice haha
Kimura it's AWESOME bali...I have mine 6-7 years,maybe more and its like newone after years and years & years of heavy flipping...it's a little bit on the "short" size but,when you "get together" after some time,everyone will LIKE it and the quality of the knife is good,especially for that kind of money/quality range ! ! ! Just keep FLIPPING ! ! ! !
The newer ones kinda suck as ive read
It's an excellent entry knife. I've had mine a week and I honestly only have a couple small complaints overall. The blade and washer stack is thicker than the spacers which is what I suspect to be the cause of the stiff handles. Basically I think that the washers are being pinched on one side instead of applying even pressure. The only other stand out complaints I have are the odd size hardware that is super soft (I've stripped both a t6 spacer screw head and the threads of a scale screw with little torque) and the scales are machined very rough which I don't find the best. Thankfully the washers can be sanded down, the screws are replaceable, and I'm in the process of making some new CNCed scales made in 3 different styles.
Seems like ur getting into the bali’s Recently ..I could be wrong but it seems like in the last year or so?...I’ve had a 62 for a few years..it was my first and I didn’t mess with it much ..then I got a Dragonfly and a few Tachyons...2002 gen and the Tach 2 from 2012/13...I played around with my gen 1 Tachyon and started to enjoy the “habit”
I still have the 62, and have added a Mayhem, (3) Tachyon 2s, (3) 1st gen Tachyons, a Szabofly, and a Titanium Metalmark and a 87....
The Ti Metalmark is just freaking incredible in the fit and finish..I got it for $300 on EBay...couldn’t believe it 😳😁😃...ZERO play..like the 87...which consequently is the knife that has been residing in my hand since I got it...it’s the same length as the Tachyon 2, which many flippers seem to love...but the 87 is easier for me to keep a grip on and transfer...what a knife!!
Finally got mine and I love the shit out of it even tho I already found out how sharp is it in the wrong way 😂😅
SluggardRaccoon you should check out the natural g 10 version of knife center. You can completely customize the handle color!
@@yoda_1165 yeah if I didn't already get mine I would've 😭
SluggardRaccoon on knife center it’s even cheaper for kimuras! Blade hq 120 knife center for 80
@@yoda_1165 yeah I got the OD green for $80 off knife center, tho after tax and stuff it was $99
SluggardRaccoon 😬 really? Oh well that kinda sucks. Still cheaper than blade hq tho. Blade hq shipping may be quicker though
great video man, but i would have to say that i wouldn't recommend the knife to a beginning flipper based on the weight, a nearly 6 oz knife can cause much deeper and worse cuts during aerials and fast moving tricks, this happens on other heavier balisongs like the barebones and 6x series. Keep up the good work!
Honestly I like heavier knives when It comes to playing with them.
the AB also has that type of latch design, its great. You don't have to go through taking apart the slabs or handles.
Why the hell didnt they put a damn pocket clip on these....
Took two weeks to get, took two weeks to break. It came with a screw in the scales stripped and the latch screw was stripped. Two weeks in the tang pin fell out.
I love mine, good action, good tang pins, nice latch. Good blade shape and steel. BUT... when it arrived the scale screw heads on one whole handle side were stripped out of the box. Fortunately I wanted to run it with bare metal handles so I don't care that I destroyed those 6 screws taking them out but that annoyed me that it was damaged by the initial assembly. Great design and quality knife but someone needs to up the QC unless I just got a dud.
My Kimura was extremely stiff, the torx screws had way to much tightener on it. The tightener got into the bearing and the screws were basically stripped when I got it. Any way to get that fixed?
New screws.
@@bobbirdsong6825 If the screws are stripped, how do you get new ones besides a new knife?
@@DoctorChained
Use a drill to bore out the old screws
@Lugermonger
would you recommend this to a beginner who doesn't know any better? i am lokking for one around this price
Yes I would anyting in that price range it is built to last will not be the absolute best flipper but should last take a decent beating I do think the kimura as well as the bear Ops b200 b400 are good starter options for a live blade
However you will need to Loctite it out of the box this is necessary to maintain any knives potential
2 vids in one day we have been blessed
Great review as always. Just found that these were on sale on BHQ for Cyber Monday for $89... I figure if you think it’s a great deal at 120, I’m obligated to try one for $90. Great video as always.
It's pretty dope held up quite well
I love the bladeshape. There's something about that nice leafblade shape
The latch is a disk so during latch drops and latch manipulation it doesn't bite into your fingers
Don't get me wrong i love this knife and is my first real balisong, but my only complaint on it is the finish comes off real easily.
Glad to see the kamura back!!!
Does it have bearings or washers
I need a good edc and a flipping balisong ive narrowed it down to the bradley kimura that you have and the boker plus balisong which is better in your opinion?
You covered everything.
Thank you.
Do you mind showing how much tap the bali has future bali reviews?
Hello I’m a beginner and I want know if it’s possible to put a tang pins if it’s falling out..? Sorry for my english
This model have bearing...?
Thanks
@@FrenchBalisongRyder no it has bronze washers but the were a tad big so I replaced them with spare bearings I had and it flips much better now
Sean Russell thanks... where did you buy your hardware please..?
@@FrenchBalisongRyder butterflyknifekits.com for the bearings and for tang pins I suggest jb weld it is a metal epoxy put some on the pins and push them back in let it sit for 24 hours
Sean Russell ok thanks you for your help, but did you have any troubles with tang pins..? because i have never seen this trouble with my tang pins in general with my balisong CCC or high quality.. anyway I’m agree the epoxy is the best way for this issue.. thanks again and sorry for my English I’m French
Do you know what the bolts sizes are?
Can u make a video give ur thoughts on the k-bar knife
hey whats up, I bought one of these knives and I have been wondering if the spring latch sold on exiled cutlery will work on this model, and if it does than is it worth it or is it not good?
That little thing weighs almost 6 ounces!?!? Oh damn 😞 btw 5:38 that is how easy it should be to take off any latch.
What kind of bit did you use to take it apart? I just got mine and it has a little bit of blade rub
It depends the pivots usually vary in size between 8 or 10 Torx driver and they come with red Loctite into from the factory so you will have to use some heat to break the bond
Hey where can I get replacement pivot screws as mine got chewed up?
Bring your chewed up one to fastenal. They might have one that will fit.
i just got mine today, and the safe handle wont budge...
Hopefully it'll break in soon. should really test the product before you ship it out in my opinion
YourBoyTom it will.
Yoda _ is that yodas way of asking a question?
YourBoyTom will loosen it will. Not stiff longer it will
Did it break in? Also what are the bolt sizes to loosen the bolts and what are they called? :D
Graham Jones they do break in don’t worry I’ve owned one. As far as the size goes I’m not sure maybe just buy a big old torx set and see.
I’m thinking about getting one used for 80 waiting for more picture from seller. Do you think it’s worth the buy?
Not really, unless it is an older non Bear Ops made one. Then 80 is a fine price for the older ones.
The 901 number should be the color model number for example BCC901 how you search the knife on google is od green g10, and BCC904 is black and red g10. Hope that helps anyone with yhat question. Numbers are all BCC901-905.
You should try to get a maxace DMG they run for around 140$ it has bearings G10 scales steel liners and a 440c it a really good buget friendly balisong
if you can find one....\
Is there a different name for it? I searched it on blade hq and nothing came up
Nvm found it
@@vRakunz its on dh gate
Did baliplus FINALLY make their own original design
The latch is a disk to make latch maneuvers easier
Getting one soon
I love it, makes a tough work knife.
Hey man great video! Have the tang pins loosened or fallen out since you've owned it?
For me no I have not had any issues but I have heard of others having a similar problem
Could you use this as an edc balisong
Yes it's an ok flipper but it's a awesome edc balisong only con is no pocket clip
Another great vid my guy!
You learn how to do an index rollover, I see you using it a lot and making it more of a rollover than a twirl will make your tricks look more smooth.
You should flip for a lil while longer
My take a heavy bali to learn on is key to strengthening your fingers amd wrist and hand. You need that to not feel fatigue from flipping. Not knowing being new to flipping. Your use muscles in hand and fingers that not use to be using constantly. You want to build them up cause if u start to feel the burn then you will not only miss tricks but in danger yourself in a bad cut. Thats my take on it.
My take on things: carry a knife that's sturdy and reliable, yet simple enough to deploy that an untrained child could use it. There's literally dozens of superior knives available that are approximately the size/weight/cost as these overpriced toys..
How's it look without scales?
He takes them off in the video
@@birdsarentreal9790 time?
@@dimitrakostaki5841 just watch the video
mine should be coming in about 3 or 4 days 👌
How is it?
like the hand
grenade in the background ;0
Hey how much is a kimura IV worth?
I saw one on jerzeedevil for 130 in 2017 and one on blade forms for 135 also 2017 I would go 150 now possibly more if somebody really wants it
And what up man how you doing it's been awhile
@@Lugermonger35 hanging in there bro, hope you are doing well
I just copped a brown one (coyote) for 107 on blade hq I prey it's good
I took the scales off because the g10 hurts my hands
I’m a knife nut not a flipper.. I’m getting into Bali’s but goddamn the prices.. then to hear that a 120 blade has issues.. I got a schrade 7oz monster of steel. I can flip it open and that’s about it. Learning on a ccc bm clone for 16 bones ( keep your hate down ) and another on the way. Will I buy a premium Bali?? Idk ? I want a boker one but fucking USA won’t let boker bring em in
I dont really think its worth it. The washers arent broad enough to stop the handle play which leads to blade tap. Over time with flipping this will wear away the finish at the spine which made me angry.
So i decided to try tightening the pivot screws. To my surprise they are cheap and i stripped the safe handle screw. This would be okay, except there is no way to get the right screws from the company.
The bladeshape is nice, the g10 scales are nice. And even with play and tap mine flips well. And mine came out the box sharp.
I like what its going for, but the quality just makes it not worth for me in the end.
That is one sexy knife
mine says 901 as well.
nice, a new video from Lugermonger
They're Bear & Sons knives now...
Chinese-made gas station quality at US-made prices...
That’s why this model only costs $99 now
@@nathenstone4147 They've got a great handle and scale design; I kinda really like the OD green.... But, the blade profile I'm not a huge fan of, and the fact that they're B&S makes me really not want to buy it, cuz I'd rather not shell out a whole Bill and then have to give it a thorough inspection and Loctite job on all the fasteners right out the box... I'd rather just stick with Hom...
Dank
Can't hear a damn thing. Might as well check out early :/
Lugermonger do you have a insta account?
@lugermonger
That’s a really pretty blade shape, in my opinion.
Seems gud
Phat handle asspect
I really hate this knife, it just feels gross flipping it.
Noice
The kimura has been ruined by the Bali community’s least favorite company, bear and son, the trashy company ruined this amazing lineage
how have bas ruined the Kimura
im gonna guess youre new to the bali scene....LOL
DJEyelessPyro basically. Can you tell me howV
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SSKUCH 130307 ok, bradly was good for its simplicity, reliability, and bang for your buck. Now, when you introduce bear and sons, who are known for their terrible rustic unreliable knives. Now what happens when you give that bad company the job to continue the lineage of an amazing knife who people have been missing for years? They mess it up terribly, introducing g10 on top of ss and no truly original design
First
He is the spy from tf2!!
8th lol
Key-More-Uh. Balisong is one word too. Not balley---song. Good vid other than that nitpick.
Its just how he talks dude, I say "fur" instead of "for", just because people notice it doesnt mean im going to change it
Kamira...
First lol
No i'm first
Ma'kir The Brave no u lol
mate i'm first end of story
That knife looks very good but I'm into the more curved butterfly knives
I find that straighter usually flips nicer, but some curvy ones do look pretty good
derpy FPV yeah I understand what you mean
We got a CS:GO kid over here.
@@VinEllis there are other curved blade and /or handle balisongs 0_0
Yeah, Terry Guinn's, which are what the CS:GO balisong copied.
this knife sucks