SwitchBot Lock PRO Review | She Let Me Do It!!
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- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- The Switchbot Lock Pro installs in 10 minutes and can be removed just as easily. It's also the first Matter enabled Lock I've seen so far and it works with Apple Homekit, Works with Alexa, and it's the only lock that works with Home Assistant that I've tried.
This video review is sponsored by Switchbot, all opinions are my own
This is a review of the Switchbot lock pro, a retrofit smart lock that can turn your key in the door, and also connect to thumbturn locks.
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0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Switchbot Lock Pro overview
3:01 - Switchbot Lock pro - Alexa, Apple Homekit, Home Assistant
4:42 - Switchbot Lock pro Features
7:29 - What's wrong with it?
9:40 - Switchbot Lock Pro Summary
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I can't understand the decision to orient the batteries perpendicular to the door instead of parallel. This would be a shoe-in, but it's so unnecessarily boxy.
I've had a Wyze Lock for 2 years that is only about an inch and a half deep
I can only speak for me and my setup, but this orientation brings the lock in line with my door handle, before I would bash my keys on the handle getting then to the lock. I like that it stands proud of the door, but I get why people might feel differently
Let me help you out here Phil for the next time you have a problem with 3M tape objects. Depending on which chemical they used a little bit of cleaning alcohol will loosen up 3M tape to remove the object. Second option I found that often works well is if you have a heat gun. Ironically I've got several because people are idiots. Heat guns are usually used for removing wallpaper they're similar to a hair dryer but a lot more powerful don't use one of the hair dryer! I can't stress that as enough don't even think about it. Again people are idiots..
Don't aim it directly at the door itself and don't get it too close but they work great for getting 3M tape off stuff like this. They're also used as an example for removing vinyl wraps from a car. I specifically have one that was made for moving vinyl wrap from a car. The one for removing vinyl wrap ironically I got at a thrift store lo. I've gotten two or three from the 1970s/80s Black & Decker for removing wallpaper and things like that people throwing out large amounts of old tools when people passed away. i have used them on quite a few occasions for issues in winter with stuff freezing like heating up the spark plug system on a snowblower when it's like 20 below zero outside or colder ;). You know how it always rains and Britain except for like one day a year? I live in Nova Scotia Canada. If it's not raining here usually it's snowing or we're having a hurricane. We get I think two or three weeks of actual son over the span of one year and I don't mean two or three weeks straight LOL. I mean one or two days followed by weeks of cold dark snow or rain.Hence why a lot of us take our trips in Britain it's more like home without the snow.
@@paulhibbertBut why is it so big? And black plastic is just ugly. They seem to have gone out of their way to make something that won't fit any decor. As a safety issue, I wouldn't deadlock it from the inside while the house is occupied.
A valid point with keys on both sides of the door/lock. There are locks which allow either side to turn independantly, allow keys in both sides without an issue. But if the lock does not have this feature, then do not leave keys in the lock. Every manufacturer has a lock in there program which can be opened from both sides even with a key in the other side. The locks that allow keys in both sides are also more secure, they have less vulnerabilties to certain opening methods.
Original switchbot lock: came home from work, the adhesive had failed. Resulting in it falling off, key in other side of door and us locked out. The locksmith cost a fortune and my missus was finally right about my smarthome obsession.
I screwed mine on so it will never fall off.
@@AdieStaintonAnnoyingly, I can’t do this. I wish I could have. It’s now sat in a box, really to be popped onto eBay.
I got the new one and I'm still taking my keys with me 🤣
I have had a battery powered backlit keypad automated lock with remotes for the last 14 years. It is one thing I haven't bothered to make 'smart'. Just seems like an unnecessary security risk having an internet enabled door lock. I have and like Switchbot products too, but I would give this one a miss.
I've had this happen with first switchbot lock where it's come off my door I'm convinced I fitted it wrong so have got rid of all the excess 3m tape off the lock got some new going to refit to my door and see if installing it incorrectly have a smart lock on my back door that was stuck on with 3M tape it's never come off in 4 years
First exterior door lock I've scene I would consider buying.
I've had the old style for a couple of years, and it has worked well. I have to say my sweetheart, the Luddite, isn't enamored and still uses her key out of spite and to poke a finger in my eye, however Iove it!
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Oh man, I haven't seen your videos in a while. I'm so glad you came back up on my feed. Thanks, Paul!
Welcome back dude!
Still smiling 😁. Out of all my regular HA UA-camrs, you're the only must watch.
Ensuring I am comment on UA-cam
Thanks as always Claire! ❤️
Home Assistant Train Bit genuinely made me belly laugh. Well done, Paul!
Happy Saturday Paul. Thank you sir.
Happy Saturday Ron!
Hi Paul, I enjoy watching your videos are very informative and entertaining. Thank you 😀
Thanks mate, made me smile 😁
Since it works with Home Assistant I'll consider it.
ooo looks great! I might really get this one! Def an improvement!
I love your videos!! ♥
Do these work with lever handles that need to be pulled up to engage the pins into the doorframe?
I swear this is the best laugh on UA-cam where you learn shi z
The Hub 2 lets you add 8 matter devices (bumped up from 6 when it was released) and the Hub Mini with Matter is the only hub that only supports 4 matter devices 😀
This guy still trying. Well done, sir!
Thanks for the video. Looks like a great device. Isn't the Euro cylinder an elegant design? Cheers.
Definitely interested in this. Especially if it will work with my existing wired in door sensor. I need to find a module to interfere with my wired sensors to work with HA and or Alexa 😅
Morning Sir, happy Saturday!
Morning dude!
Do there matter hub work work localy with home assistant?
It also works with UK Oval Cylinders so quite useful for me as that’s kinda rare!
Although all new UK doors are Euro Cylinders so Oval is now a dead format.
Great value at £130 compared to the Nuki or the Bold locks 🔐
Ordered this moments after watching this!
A week or so to despatch but once despatched 3 days from China to NZ....like wow, Free shipping with DHL! exciting weekend coming my way 😀
Now I've installed this lock, I cannot get it to work with Google home 🤷♂️. It appears as "lock" as I named it but it dies nothing. No interaction possible with Google. It looks like that device is not setup, you can do that in Google assistant settings"
I'm lost!
Is there any news about upcoming Home Key compatibility?
I'd love to get one of these, but can't shake the feeling that the primary use would be for checking I remembered to lock the door.
If I did forget, I could probably not use this to lock it anyway as I have a door where you need to raise the handle, which I thought pretty much every house had these days.
Regardless, great video as always
I did manage to install the old switch bot lock on a door that required you to raise the handle, you just have to remember to raise the handle before it locks, it can be unlocked without raising it
Hi Paul. I've got the same barrel and thumbturn issue. What barrel did you get out of interest so I can see if they have the same size? Thanks
Pretty sure it’s this one 😊👍🏻 amzn.eu/d/4Zv7BUa
What Alexa skill do I need to make this work please
Interesting, but first of all I didn't realise how easy it was to replace the barrel! We've had the issue of the inside key blocking the outside one for years and now I'm replacing it!
Awesome! ❤️
item not said, is there a battery warning ?
Your pod bay door code is the same as my luggage!
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Oh that is a nice improvement, I really want one of these locks, at first I thought it would be the typical American style lock but thankfully it looks like it will fit our euro looks, doesn't Google home have matter? Can it not work without does it have to be there own hub, like zigbee all iver again, wasn't matter supposed to get rid of all the need for hubs! :) Great video as always🎉
Hey Paul, does this have a latch feature? My apartment door needs to be 'held' open and so far the only lock I've found that's supported this is the Nuki Smart lock. I've been using it for a while, but would prefer to move to switchbot if this works for that feature. Thanks!
Yep! I didn’t test it as my lock doesn’t require it but the options are all there in the settings 😁
@@paulhibbert Brilliant, thanks! Much as I like my Nuki one, it's twice the price and I'm a fan of switchbot, so maybe an upgrade is in order. Cheers man!
Hey Paul, great video as usual. I am seriously considering getting one of these for the door into my garage (we go out to the car through the garage when it is raining (so a lot as this is England - weather - BLAND! 😂 ) but it is an old door with a key / keyhole (not like a Yale or cylinder thing) would it work over the key? Cheers!
I would double check on the switchbot website and ask them directly if needed, but it does work with keys 😁
@@paulhibbert cheers Mate. Love that you take the time to reply, really appreciated. Let me know if your ever in the Basingstoke area, and we can grab a beer or two!
On a completely different note, you managed to get your hands on a MIGO Ascender yet?
The emergency fingerprint is an awesome idea, but you better use a "weird" finger normally instead and the regular thumb as your emergency one, so whoever is coercing you doesn't notice what you're doing! 😇
I have one of those barrels that you call 'dangerous'. But so far it hasn't tried to murder me in my sleep 🤭
Problem with locking is that many multi-point locks require you to lift the handle to engage the latches.
I couldn't agree more. All our exterior doors have multi-point locking which require the handle to be lifted (manually) to engage those multiple locking points. Which makes all these "smart locks" rather dumb IMO.
Surely the point is that you don't need a key. Having to lift the handle is no different to having to close the door!
@@alex_ob1 With multi-point locks, there is a bar that runs the entire length of the door with multiple pins in it. This bar is connected to the handle such that when the handle is raised, the bar moves up and the pins engage with multiple sockets around the door edge. The key lock only prevents the handle from being depressed. So locking the door properly is a two stage process. First the handle must be raised to engage the multi-point locks, then the key (or smart lock) has to be turned to prevent the handle from being moved. So you have to physically and manually engage the multi point locking and while you are at the door doing that, you might as well turn the key as well. You can of course lock the door with the key (or smart lock) but the physical locking mechanism will only be a (usually flimsy and easily forced) simple single latch point which actually makes the door far less secure.
I had a multipoint lock door at my old house. Still installed the Switchbot Lock (original) and just lifted the handle as I left and the Switchbot locked the house a few seconds later, it’s not much more effort than closing the door right? The switchbot lock doesn’t need to raise the handle to unlock the door.
@@deckingman my point is that even with a smart lock, you still need to physically shut the door. So while shutting the door it's not much extra effort to lift up the handle. The smart lock means that you don't need to then use a key as well.
How does it compare to other locks? For example, to the Aqara A100 you looked at previously.
Of all the locks I’ve tried this is the easiest to install, and of the retrofits it is the neatest and the sturdiest. It’s chunkier than the EZVIZ that I tried, but I have more confidence in this one for longevity, it really does feel solid
If I had the choice to fit something like the a100 it would need to match my door a bit better as it would be visible on the outside and it’s really big, but that thing really was cool. If it matches your door then I’d consider that as equal and of course it works with Aqaras ecosystem which is a big plus for me.
It’s swings and roundabouts I guess.
How do the backplates work when the lock is on a slightly more slender vertical bar thingy?
Your installation used adhesive on a relatively thick vertical 'handle bar' but when it's slimmer, theres almost no surface area for the backplate to adhere to. Is that enough?
The old switchbot lock could be mounted from the side and attached to the door itself and then the turning part could be positioned up and down to fit over the thumb turner/key
Not sure about this one. The adhesive is insane, so it would probably still stick, but I wouldn’t want to say for sure
@@paulhibbert I have the old one. Its not the most attractive but given the mounting bracket that pushed it off the wall far enough to then connect with the thumbturn... but this one just has the flat bracket that needs a big old flat surface to stick to!
Hi Paul, my door has a multipoint lock with a deadlock as per most UK UPVC doors. How does this work as I have to physically lift the door handle to enable the multi point to locate before I can turn the key to lock the door so I’m not sure how you can lock the door remotely? Am I missing something? Great job on the video and the production work.
Unfortunately for locks where you have to lift the handle you’ll still need to lift the handle as you leave before the switchbot will then lock your door.
At my old house I had the original switchbot lock automatically lock after a few seconds of the door being closed which gave me time to lift the handle, you’ll find after all these years that you’ll still be in the habit of lifting it anyway.
You won’t need to lift it to unlock the door 😊
@@paulhibbert Thought so but thanks for clarifying it. Would love to be able to set a routine to lock the door if you’d have left in a rush. Thanks again though.
@@richchapman5011 you just have to stay in the habit of lifting the handle whenever you leave the house. I’m guessing you’re already in that habit 👍🏻
How much turning power do these things have? My lock needs some force to fully lock
Mine is quite tough too and it works great. Obviously it will only try so hard before it thinks the lock is jammed and stops so it doesn’t do damage to itself or your lock.
Thanks for swift reply. I am interested in hooking up to Home Assistant, moving away from Amazon Echo and making sure it can work if internet is down. Send your wife shopping and disconnect the internet and try :)
Paul, how does it deal with locks where you have to lift the handle in order to turn the barrel?
Same as you do now really, you lift the handle when you leave the house so the switchbot lock can then lock the door. At my old house I had the original switchbot lock and I had it set to auto lock after a delay of closing the door of a few seconds so there was time to lift the handle.
Because you don’t need to lift the handle to unlock the door everything else is the same as it is for me in my video.
@@paulhibbert Thanks for taking the time to reply Paul, I really appreciated it. That seems like an embarrassingly simply way to use smart locks on my doors. 😄 Your kind of lateral thinking is what UA-cam needs more of.
7:48 My non-touch keypad I got last year is backlit (after pressing the first button). Temporary passcodes work for the same way you show (and I'm not even on the latest firmware, my keypad shows v1.3)
It looks like I’ll buy this since there isn’t a lot of reviews about Aqara U200 🤷🏻♂️
Think I’m going to bite the bullet & finally make my lock smart xxx
Woot! This is definitely the one I would pick, it’s been flawless since install 😁 xxx
Have you tried the August lock? They are pretty clean and easy to install
No, but they do look good!👍🏻
The size of it!
That’s what she said
Do you also need a hub if using Home Assistant?
You do at the minute, but because the lock is Bluetooth it will eventually work with your pi once someone writes a driver, they wrote one for the original switchbot lock so I imagine it’s not a big change to the code
Great review, though it's not on my list as it's still massive and requires a hub i don't want. If aqara can make a standard size radiator value turn something, Switchbot can make this much smaller.
My thoughts exactly. This thing is huge and doesn’t look good hanging on the door.
It is backlit, if its the same keypad as the one
Does this run locally? It seems other switch it devices need internet connection.
For Alexa functionality and that sort of thing yes, for anything local like thumbprints no, apparently not. I haven’t tested this because I can’t turn the internet off without my missus losing her mind at the minute 😂
How much space is needed below the cylinder? Can it be installed up side down? I have a ….. knob under my euro cylinder.
Also, is it compatible with auto latching multi-point locks? I don’t see any turn handle on your door.
Knob 🤣 I can’t think of a reason it couldn’t be installed upside down. I used to have a door handle on my old house and installed a switchbot lock (original) I had to lift the handle before it could lock, but it could unlock without lifting.
@@paulhibbert At 6:31, is the door you used multipoint auto latching? I don’t see any turn handles.
Was this smart lock able to deal with this type of locking mechanism?
This door has no handle, the thumb tuner locks all the mechanisms inside the door without me having to lift a handle which is great, but I do have to pull the door really tightly closed for it to work with the switchbot lock pro.
The nice thing with this lock is you get an immediate notification if the lock gets jammed and then I just go back and pull the door more firmly before letting it try again
Not a bad price. Have you looked at the Ultion Nuki lock? Comes with a secure eurocylinder and a smart lock.
I haven’t, but that does look cool 🥳
Interesting. Here in Canada you can only mount the Pro with two screws from the dead bolt. I had to opt for the original version
Can you please elaborate? (I'm not familiar with locks)
I was considering getting it for a new condo. Thanks.
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Right back atcha dude!
Locks with a key on both sides and that will only work with a key on one side at a time are not dangerous, they are designed that way. It is for security and is part of what was the industry standard if you wanted contents insurance on your home. Many insurers still only work with deadlocks so any of this smart stuff or thumb turns will nullify the insurance. The 2 keys issue was designed that way so that you had a way of forcing a door to stay locked from the inside. Many people with euro cylinder front doors will leave a key in over night to aid exit in an emergency and to ensure no one with or without a key can open the lock from the outside.
I can't lock my doors without first "Pre-locking" with by moving the normal handle upwards so I assume this device would not work for me as a locking device if I had not already "pre-locked"?
Good shout. I forgot to talk about this in the video 😫 you would still need to raise the handle to lock the door, but the door can be unlocked without raising the handle.
Yeah have one of those doors too, wonder if it would alert you that it can't turn far enough to lock because you didn't pull the handle up
It does. If there’s any kind of a jam you get an immediate notification to your phone. So you could rely on this to remember to lock it because as soon as it failed to auto lock after closure you would be told.
My door doesn’t lock unless you really firmly close it, so I’ve been saved by this a couple times
Isn't matter an open standard? Can the lock be used with any matter gateway or are you forced to buy their hub?
The hub has matter, the lock is Zigbee so sadly you do need the hub. It does though work as far as I can tell with any matter router that will recognises a lock
@@paulhibbertsince it has zigbee, would it then be possible to control it directly via.. Do I dare to say it.. HOME ASSISTANT 🧐 directly?
Sorry, I meant Bluetooth, but yes!! The old switchbot lock worked directly via Bluetooth and there was a thread started recently asking for this lock to be written in too 😁
I have a zigbee Network with homeassistant. It's out also possible to connect it to that? I don't want matter just for the lock...
The lock itself is Bluetooth, the hub is matter over WiFi.
Eventually if one of the home assistant community write the code for it you’ll be able to connect the lock to home assistant using Bluetooth directly
Thanks for your time😊
I already use Switchbot Bluetooth integration on HA. Is it just the Pro that isn’t compatible yet?
From what’s I’ve read, yes. Will definitely. Something I’m looking to do once someone writes it in
Pro tip: if you ever want to remove 3M tape easily without force, stains or residue, buy Isopropanol and pour a little of it on. It's an alcohol based cleaner that will make it pretty much fall off - also important tool for phone repairs.
How did you get the Pro version to work in HA? thanks
In the switchbot app go into the settings for the lock, then into the matter section and generate the code.
Then in HA go to add device and then matter device and then input the code 😁
@@paulhibbert thanks! turns out my switchbot mini was the original and I need the mini with matter :)
bugger - I have original mini as well, so didn’t bother ordering the new one. This needs to be highlighted on their ordering page!
Yeah, they should probably stop selling the mini with out Matter, I’m guessing they will over time.
Happy Saturday. This has a great price tag, but will need to wait for Aqara to have a comparison. I dont use a thumb turner because I fear if someone does get in through the window they can open the front door from the inside and carry out whatever they want, without a key they could not open a normal lock. But here is my question Paul, does it know that the door was locked from the outside so no one is at home and therefore it does not allow the door to be opened from the inside using the big button? Also is this pet friendly because the last thing anyone wants is for the dog to jump up and press the button and open the door. If this function is missing it is not a smart lock for me.
All good points, and the dog isn’t something I considered. You could use 3rd party smart systems such as a home assistant or smart things to achieve something similar, but switchbot doesn’t currently have geofencing and even with home assistant, the button is designed to open the door regardless. That said the button can be set to only respond to double click and can be set to only lock the door so you can rely on turning the mechanism instead. That fixes the dog problem at least.
@@paulhibbert Cheers Paul, Double click is a good option, which is easier than smart pets.
Having now got this working in home assistant it really is the lock I would choose if I was buying. I’m really impressed with it 😁 I took the time to go buy the replacement barrel from screwfix because I really wanted to use it.
Don't most doors (at least in the UK) require the handle to be lifted? I was excited by this until i thought about that.
It locks and unlocks, not opens and closes the door.
@@TheBroz it can't lock on most doors, as that requires lifting the handle. If you have to lift the handle yourself, there's not much point in having it lock the door for you.
My front door doesn’t need the handle to be lifted. Been using lock 1 for ages now.
@@martincoxxx That’s nonsense. When I close the front door I instinctively pull the handle up. Using automation to lock and unlock is more convenient than using a key.
As TheBroz alluded to already, it can’t close your door for you either so I don’t understand what difference it makes? Just close the door and lift the handle like you normally do, you are already in the habit of doing so, just let the switchbot lock do the rest.
Had one of those switch bot locks a week ago. Sent it back for a refund. Wouldn’t setup properly and the app kept saying that the door was jammed.
I preorder lock pro from switchbot,, keep changing delivery date for third time. Now thinking about canceling it
Same to me
The keypad is backlit. I have the original Switchbot Lock with the keypad. It’s in the Switchbot app keypad settings Try it at night 😊
Really?? No way! I’ll test it out later!
so whats the issue with having a lock that cant be used if the key is in the other side? i leave my key in the back door which means noone can come in from the back and same with the front door. obviously if im not home then i can only use the front door but i dont see the issue as thats the only door i use anyway. why is that dangerous? someone explain?
When I released my last Switchbot Lock video there was a commenter saying a relative of theirs had died in a house fire because the turned key in the door had delayed the fire services getting in 😞
@@paulhibbert Thank you for telling me this. That's so horrible i really feel for the family. I shall certainly be changing the locks now!
@eleanorhathaway3619 worth replacing it with the thumb turn style too, as it’s safer for you in a fire for getting out. The Yale one I got is well rated and secure, it’s the one below but check your barrel length and measurements from the centre split before choosing the relevant replacement… it’s just one screw in the side of the door to release it so you can measure it
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No you’re not!
Its a stretch to say the barrels that only allow one key are dangerous. They can be a pain if you leave the key in the door on the inside and go out but that is a dangerous thing to do on a front door anyway because thieves may be able to get the key through the letter box. My neighbour did just that when he and his wife went out and one of them left the key in the barrel, a piece of stiff wire hooked through the hole in the key for the key ring and he was in.
How did he lock his door if he'd left the key inside?
@@stepheng8779probably locked from inside and left via a different door
I wish that was the only danger. Sadly another viewer from my last switchbot lock video had lost a loved one when there was a house fire and the key turned in the door delayed the fire services getting in
So how did you remove the old one without ruining your door?
Fishing line and a bit of adhesive remover spray. A bit of a seesaw action got the fishing line to slowly cut through the pad, and then the adhesive remove got the remainder of the pads of the door 👍🏻
@@paulhibbert thanks
HOMERSSISTANT ❤
At 2:40 be careful Paul, the replacement barrel you installed is too long, the barrel should finish flush with your handle plate or 5mm overhang maximum, seems to be more, this is a security risk for someone easily snapping your lock to gain entry
Wish you uploaded sooner, i would of used your link to buy it 😭
Ah, no worries dude. Thanks for thinking of me ❤️
After that dance routine.... well someone is going to have to say kind words about him at the wake.
How about needing to recalibrate it every time you change batteries?
Ooh, not tried that. Is that a problem with the old one?
@@paulhibbert yes. It’s great that it accepts normal batteries now and has their own rechargeable ones (maybe these don’t need recalibration?). My guess is they need it since discharge current could be different between brands which ended up making the lock pretty picky regarding batteries.
@yonutz333 just tested it. No, there’s no need to recalibrate after the batteries have been swapped
Hey Paul, long time subscriber.
Just wondering, do you get to pick the type of ads that play on your channel?
The ads are selling scam products.
I know UA-cam doesn’t care, they will take anyone’s money.
Wish I did, the ads are so rarely even relevant 🙄
Better looking? It’s bloody monstrous
This is a problem if you have a Multipoint Locking door according to added text on the compatibility Checklist - Auto Lock function is NOT compatible with Multi-Point Locks
You have to raise the handle before it will lock. I had this with my old switchbot lock at my old house. Works great for all other functionality, but you unfortunately do have to raise the handle still for locking
The part about Home Assistant is entirely true...
How come I never see anyone mention these with multipoint locking doors where the handle needs lifting? If the handle isn’t lifted to engage all the lock g points, surely this thing can’t lock the door?
It also can’t lock the door if you don’t close the door 😂
Everyone is saying this but I don’t understand the concern. Just lift the handle as you leave just as you do already.
How does it compare vs Nuki ? :)
Not tried the Nuki, but the Switchbot looks to be a A LOT cheaper when I compare on Amazon. 😳
This looks like they just copied the whole design from the Nuki
@@paulhibbert I tried the original Switchbot lock on my front door and it wasn't strong enough to turn the latch so swapped it out for the Nuki and quality so much better. I use the switchbot on my porch door and it works ok but it does feel like it could easily break. The new one looks better and seems to stick to the door using the same method as the Nuki.
I know one element they didn’t copy… the price 🤣
@@paulhibbert this is true, I was just letting the person know that all these features and app design are pretty much copied from Nuki, I've owned one since they 1st launched and it's been the best door lock ever since.
Hi, how do you get out from inside if you have a thumb turn?? You have to tell Alexa to unlock it?
No, you can just twist the switchbot lock mechanism by hand, same as you did before with the thumb turner 😊
"...glue it to your [insert surface here]" Yes, there are a few things that the home automation elves have installed in the dead of the night in our home as well. (That's my story and I'm sticking with it.) Most times they're met with a resounding "meh," but on a few occasions I get, "Are you intending to keep that there?" (Which, according to my handy translator of wife phases means, "You are _not_ keeping that there.")
This lock can probably pass the "AYItKTT" test. (We really need a better acronym.) And even an accomplished DIYer like me can appreciate "no modifications" and "easy installation."
"Work with Home Assistant": Without creating a bespoke YAML file? Yay! (...waiting for the "What's wrong with it?" section because I'm that cynical.)
What's wrong with it: Backlit keypad. Agreed. I'm sure you could rig an automation that would turn on a light when you get close to the keypad, but it would be nice to tap a button and have it light itself. Yes, that would drain the battery some small increment each time, but it would still be nice.
That's all that's wrong with it??? Wow. Checking those purchase links right now.
Oh wait. It needs a hub that can only handle 4 devices. :( They need to fix the last part right now. I don't like Yet Another Hub, but it would be tolerable if it was a Matter Hub that handled numerous devices.
Being able to swap from batteries to rechargeable packs is a good thing.
Thanks for a great review of a product that I'm even now purchasing. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Russell, I’m being told by folks in the comments that it does actually light up, I’ve just never pressed any of the buttons in the dark! 😊
@@paulhibbertGood to know. Thanks.
Check with your home insurer about these & thumbturn cylinders before you install them on an outer door as they can invalidate your home insurance due to vulnerabilities and security issues.
Also if you use something like this with the key left in the cylinder and you get robbed when your insurer asks you if you left the key in the cylinder they won't care if you had a motorised internet accessible control on it (although they will look at this as an issue too) they will just turn (unintentional pun) your claim dowm as you left the key in the lock (hence thumbturns can be an issue too).
Yeah only use as internal secure office 👍
Anyone got any links to evidence this? I mean, this thumb turner is a Yale cylinder with all the certifications. Almost all new build houses have thumb turners, keys are becoming less and less common on the inside of doors as they’re not as safe in a fire.
I’m not sure where you’re getting the insurance thing from. I’m 99% sure this isn’t true.
Yes, it was in some details of our own insurance policy, maybe T&Cs.
Just because it's there in a new build doesn’t mean the insurer will agree to it.
I fitted a thumb turn to our own property front door some year ago then had to remove it swiftly afterwards as discovered the insurer did not like it. There is a method that burglars use to enter a property through the letterbox and thumb turn cylinders are deemed a vulnerability.
I think YT might be removing my posts with link references. Nevertheless just google thumb turn and home insurance and the information is out there. In general the advice is check with your insurer. There was a locksmiths blog article that mentioned they may be ok for internal front doors of flats but the advice is check with your insurer.
"Are Thumbturn Locks Insurance Approved?
Although traditionally thumbturn locks are not insurance approved there is a British Standard BS8621 which allows the use of a tumbturn lock for internal front doors in flats. These are most commonly found in new build flats. It would be advisable to check with your insurance company if they would accept this for your particular property."
Also a BS certification doesn't mean the insurer will accept it, just means it is manufactured to a certain standard.
"Are thumb turn locks insurance approved?
In order to qualify for insurance coverage, insurance companies may have particular standards for door locks. Thumb turn locks may not be insurance-approved for outside doors due to their lower security rating. It’s crucial to confirm with your insurance provider and, if required, think about switching to a more secure lock type.
It is important to contact your insurance company to find out if your thumb turn lock has insurance approval. They may offer advice on the kinds of locks that satisfy their criteria for security. For more information, check our post on insurance approved lock types."
Do European homes generally not have inner and outer doors? Here in the US South, every house I've ever lived in had outer storm doors and inner regular doors on every entrance. Both are set into the same door frame so the knobs and locks are very nearly touching each other in between. This means there's no space for one of these on the outside door which kinda makes these useless here. Until somebody can build one of these that fits inside the lock body I guess I'm continuing to use a key like a normie.
Interesting, guess the only option would be to not have a lock on the outer door like my friend does, but it sounds like that’s not feasible in your case, it’s probably a slightly different setup as they have a solid inner door and the outer door is just to a porch for the mailman to drop off parcels
@@paulhibbertYeah, it's not like an entryway or mud room. The two doors are set into the same doorframe; one hinged outward on the outside face of the frame, and the other hinged inward on the inner face of it.
@@mephitstophilis yeah, that’s a shame man. Not something we have in the eu generally
I've had Schlage automatic locks for a few years now. I bought them because my family often forgets to lock the doors. Is the attraction for this one that you can keep your existing locks and just add the automation? Because I have to say that black box looks huge and kinda ugly.
That and the £100+ saving and no DIY I guess 🤷🏻♂️
@@paulhibbert Sorry, Paul. What DIY? The thing was installed in 15 minutes by my musician husband (who most definitely is NOT handy). It is more expensive, I'll give you that.
Perhaps I’m looking at the wrong thing on Amazon, but none of them look like they’re simple to install 🤷🏻♂️
Hi just a shame they don't do a white version.
Agreed, I want a silver one to go with my handle. Hoping they release one!
I think the issue is it highlights on the White pvc doors we have on my inner front door I have had Schlagers for some years that I obtained in the states when keyless was quite a new thing.
The biggest problem that I see is if you have a door that doesn’t lock unless the handle is pulled up it won’t work for lock unless you remembered to pull it up
Looks great! The Wyze works the exact same way. And also works with Home Assistant!
However, Wyze doesn't need a sensor to know if the door open or closed.
me waching this 6h after installing the 1. swichbot lock 🙃
I hafta ask Paul, how does Neesh react to Zulu Neesh? Is it a chuckle, a faint nose exhale, or just a disappointed eye roll?
Little of column B, little of column C… a whole heft of column “you’re such an idiot, stop posting that meme “
THANKS THANKS THANKS. Until I watched the video I didn't know I could swap my stupid 2 key cylinder for a thumb lock cylinder. A replacement arrives from Jeff Bezos tomorrow :)
I have a smarthome but really unless you want t to remotely unlock your door for someone else, I really struggle to see the advantage of ANY smartlock, they're are so ugly, and that little metal key n my pocket and the spare hidden in the garden, are really unbeatable....
Carrying shopping, carrying kids, making sure the house was actually locked when you left, locking the door as part of a night time routine, having the lights come on when you unlock the door, having the vacuum start when you lock it.
These are just off the top of my head
Ah the reason to ask Zendaya that question was to make headlines "Trouble in paradise for Tom and Zendaya"
Little did they know that she would just aggressively fart instead!!
@@paulhibbert lol yeah I had to turn my sub down that fart echo through my place 😂😂
A potential problem: It looks huge, so your door won't open as wide as before.
He lost me at far better looking device. I guess he’s comparing it to the first Switchbot lock, which looks awful. But this chunky thing isn’t much better. I think a simple Schlage lock would have been much better. Yes, you have to play with the cylinder, but the wife isn’t setting it up. Also, you can still use a key to open the door.
Every other week someone says I lost them, and yet there they are in the comments section. Worst game of hide and seek ever 🤷🏻♂️
@@paulhibbert I decided to watch the rest of the video after your reply-thanks for checking in with your viewers 😉. I think the smart features look great, and it checks off a lot of boxes in terms of functionality. However, I think you’re hard-pressed to convince anyone that this thing isn’t a chonky behemoth. I guess there’s a technical limitation in why it couldn’t be slimmed down, but form is almost as important as function with a lot of things in your home.
For me personally it brings my lock in line with my handle. My only wish is that it was in silver or white.
HOME ASSISTANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
*humps the air
I'd be straight on these if all my external doors didn't open outwards. Smart lock is the main thing my house is missing.
That sucks? I’m guessing the switchbot lock pro would catch on your door frame?
@@paulhibbert Yes, I've looked into tonnes of them and none of the back boxes have enough clearance to allow you to open the doors. Can't even change main front door to open inwards because there's a small porch then a big step up into the house so you wouldn't be able to open the door much that way round
@@paulharrison3868 I had the same issue at my old house with a thumbprint barrel. It was a cool idea but the barrel caught on the door frame 😩
@@paulharrison3868 I had the same problem with both SwitchBot and Nuki. Was worth it enough to me to have locksmith fit a lock with a longer setback (further into the door - 65mm, I think ) so the protuberance of the smart locks did not catch on the jamb. Works a treat!
@@kismo4056 Cheers, I'll look into it.
Farts are always funny, but can be tragic at the same time.
Also known as the gamble fart 💨
Zendayas are dangerous. If she farts near a pond all the fish die
"I'm sorry, Dave... I'm afraid I can't do that!"