The Mystery of the 18 Universes in Dragon Ball Super
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- The Omni King Destroyed 6 Universes, but why? Was there a War of the Gods in Dragon Ball Super? Was there a REBELLION against Omni King? Why did Omni King Destroy Universe 13-18? On this edition of Dragon Ball Mysteries, we delve into the Mystery of the Omni King's Power and destruction of 6 Universes. We solve the Mystery of the Destroyed Universes in Dragon Ball Super. DEAD DARK SITE: deaddarkshop.bi...
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I would love a new arc about those destroyed universes.
Id like a side show with cross overs
It’s possible, Android 17 ask to bring back all of the universes that were erased so.....
So would I, unfortunately Toriyama has no real ideas anymore and they are still milking Universe 7 and pulling new enemies out of nowhere for some unknown reason... like why is Moro from U7? Make him an enemy from one of the other universes ffs and the story would already make 100% more sense
I feel you man, but first I wanna know more about the universes that didn’t participate in the TOP
Grydon ! This 💯 So many possibilities, unfortunately prime Toriyama ain’t no more.
Bruh this is like some crazy Star Wars prequel shit. I could see this being a film and even have a cameo of Moro or something to tie into the Galactic Patrol Prisoner arc
id be cool with it
Sadly they don’t give a shit about Dragonball lore. These days they just use it as a cash cow and nothing else. (New forms like SSG, SSB, Rosé, Gogeta, Broly etc = MERCHANDISE)
Yes, it would have been awesome if lore was given a bit importance. Then again it's just db thing. We know grand priest is among top 5 in universe. So who are the other 4? They can't be just Angels since we have seen how whis is lot inferior to him.
@@piotr5261 do you even read the dragon Ball super manga🤦? They went into a lot of lore in moro ark things like the grand supreme Kai and his past not only that but we have learned more about the angels and their laws you act like you could do better or something. And how are getting new forms and bringing in new characters a cash cow next your going to say bringing in pan was a choice made to bring in baby viewers you cleared know nothing about what your talking about.
ssg vegito ssg vegito You are just a blind fanboy who probably orgasms every time Goku changes his hair colour.
Everything from Frieza returning and getting Golden Frieza to Kale and Caulifla to UI Goku to SSB Gogeta is just to milk money from the sheep like you.
I once made a theory that Zeno didn't actually "destroy" 6 universes. The theory goes originally their were only 6 universes in total. After a situation which caused Zeno/High Priest to destroy the Gods of Destruction and/or angels of the original 6, Zeno used his ability to literally split those universes, making the 12 we have now. That's why each universe has a twin, why some species exists in both universes and why the symbolic core of each universe tends to complement it's twin like smarts/strength or love/justice.
No that is your opinion but they always leave us in the dark to add more people
I mean I do love that tbh
Nah Whis said that there were Originally 18 universes not 6 so your theory is invalid
narc
Cool theory
I've always liked the idea that the saiyans were created by someone from one of those destroyed universes and that they were a plague race created to eventually overthrow the gods. Somehow surviving that universe's destruction and ending up in 6 and 7.
Yes the father of saiyans akumo he's from universe 13 it makes perfect sense
I feel like Geekdom should be apart of the Dragon Room, there is so much dragon ball content Toei and Shueisha are forgetting about that.
The people in the Dragon Room also knows them. But they have no say as to what Toriyama would produce. So even if they brought them up, chances are zero to none.
Toriyama takes inspiration from his household cat fights while preparing modern Dragon Ball stories, Broly is probably a reference to a new cat of same breed who comepletely took over control from the other cats lol
After moro arc, I really want arcs about whis history, beerus past(race too),zeno and how they all came to be.
1.Frieza race history and Frieza past as an empire would be awesome.
2.Vegeta past as a kid and teenager. And the sayians past and war on sadala, and yomishie
3. Demon realm and angle realm
4. Zamala history
And I’m pretty sure there are other sayians with high power level, that king vegeta sent to a remote planet, And possibly still be living like Broly..
Maybe not the Gods YET because we can leave that for the LAST arcs or saga the GOD saga, id rather get full information of everything we have right now about the sayins and races of yhe immortals
Man there’s so much super can do. I hope Toriyama, toei and all them realize the potential this show has
Probably won’t happen. This is a Goku and Vegeta show.
Micah Adeyemo limitless potential. No pun intended.
I wouldn’t mind a backstory movie or episode explaining why those 6 universes destroyed! They should also explore the Zeno and the angels!
As the anime mentioned that Zeno has already predicted the result of the tournament, I think Zeno planned to bring back the other 6 universes by 17's wish. As you said that Zeno would have destroyed everything if other wish have been made so according to me he planned everything from the start of the tournament
No the zeno's didn't predicted it. It was the grand priest and either way they would not grant someone's wish to destroy everything except for that being that wished it. Because the whole point of the grand priest job is to do daily count on how many being's there are in the universe or solar system and if there are less he will ask the zeno to destroy it. Because that's how the tournament was form has some universe was not there and it wasn't due to the fact they got destroyed but because universe 1 and 10 had way more beings and powerful ones that it wouldn't be fair since they already have goku and jiren and hit being the toughest warriors on stage.
So he is a villian than? Well we are fucked
MysticStrike Force Do you hate those type of people who say stick to your own thing or whatever? This one mod on a sport live stream told me to stick to anime all because I ask one question out curiosity on what the video is about. What wrong with anime anyway? I think he was opening cards but I’m not too sure. Please reply back!!!! Wanna know your answer.
maybe there was a war between the universes which could also explain the rule about gods of destructions not being allowed to fight each other
Also, how did the twin system work when those universes were present ? Was it a change in numbering or something else ?
Maybe three universe were shared for example universe 6,7,14
They would just add up to 19 instead of 13.
1 and 18
2 and 17
3 and 16
4 and 15
5 and 14
6 and 13
7 and 12
8 and 11
9 and 10
Maybe the universes used to be triplets. So then three of them would add up to 19 instead of two adding up to 13.
exactly why i said he restructured it
Let’s be real Toriyama doesn’t think about shit like this, just look at how Universe 7 has more Kais
I think I remember that in the manga the reason he erased those six universe was explained because he summoned all of the destroyers for a game of hide-and-seek and beerus fell asleep he couldn't find him, and he got frustrated and he wiped out six of those universes.
He’s just trying to provide content at this point
I want DBS to go in that One Piece direction with world building.
Theory: Let’s say a regular mortal experienced war and trauma and Zeno didn’t help his people. Dude has power but he can cut though dimensions and enter other universes. He gather mutual allies with same POV and attempted to launch a rebellion they failed.
Now: A survivor from that turmoil tries to start a new rebellion to kill Zeno and Broly, Goku etc, to build a new world
One piece suck
Exactly! It'd make more sense if it was a mortal. Like a mortal liberation type of rebellion.
@@animebrothersbruh3748 yeah no it doesnt. I personally prefer dragonball but if i removed my rose coloroed glasses for DB and the nostalgia thats comes with following it for 20+ and look at the two series objectivley, i would probably say that one piece might be better then DB.
This is a good idea there’s so much super can do I hope Toriyama, toei and all them realize the potential this show has.
Isnt that done already in Super Dragon Ball Heroes? Where hearts tries to liberate the multiverse within Zeno's grasp?
"despite being alive for hundreds of years, maybe even thousands."
Uh, don't you mean millions or billions of years? If Xeno is that young, it begs the question. Where, when or how did he rise to power. You'd think the god of the multiverse would be as old as the multiverse itself. Unless I'm missing something.
Wondering the same. It really sucks that they didn't explain how or why he came to be.
I think he IS implying Zeno is not the O.G. God of the Multiverse. I don't think he is either.
I think he is the successor to the original god, maybe an offspring of some kind.
@@theskieshavefallen8408 there was a manga called "dragon ball omega" which didnt extend beyond one chapter as the writer didnot continue............if you search for it there might be a very little chance that you will find it ....but it has put an amazing origin history.........check it out if you want.....
@@theskieshavefallen8408 it states about the ""omni lord"" whose position is somewhat like ""the one above all from marvel""
Universe's rising up against Zeno is an interesting idea that I'd like to see play out on screen or in the manga. Make it happen!
*Zeno
@@chrono2208 My bad. Too much 40k recently
@@wiibrockster no problem dude 👍🏻.
Hearts!! Hearts from SDBH had this idea! He could be really cool if executed correctly.
@@miguel_1972 the problem of hearts was more of the time he had as a villain.
I think their was a rebellion. Each universe has evil in it but those universes must have had something that really stood out. As we have seen more than one universe very likely has a demon realm. The demon that killed Jiren's friends and parents was likely from Universe 11. So I could easily see universe 13-18 having several demons that wanted to take over the god hierarchy. Maybe they were even strong enough to defeat the gods of destruction which caused Zeno to erase those universes.
I always thought of corrupted Angels. Anything else, the Gods of Destruction or the good Angels themselves should be strong enough to take care of whatever evil/corruption inhabits their universes.
Angels are evil! Like most of them didnt even care that their universes get destroyed
@@hbluemole6941 they’re not evil. Angels have to remain neutral. Not caring that a universe was destroyed doesn’t make them evil.
Super has so many possibilities and ideas, it would be sad if it never returned..
Well the manga is ongoing ! It's just questions of whether or when we will get a continuation. More anime ? Or more movies?
In terms of the story, there's so much potential but nope. They make it simple as fuck
there could be a mortal in those destroyed universes who stronger than MUI goku lol
Geekdom: "its just a theory,"
Me: "AN ANIME THEORY!!!"
Ah, I see you're a man of culture
True. Its actually really sad
Booooooo
@Son Gohan no its amazing
actually the omni-king has not shown compassion or a streak of “good” at ALL. if anything, he is an entirely dispassionate and pragmatic ruler. im not sure how you can say any different with how he casually wipes out an entire universe and doesnt even blink.
i think ur theory is spot on - it is the only thing that would allow for great arcs moving forward should the show continue.
My theory is, when 17 made the wish to bring back all universes that was erased by zeno m, 17 wasn't specific enough to say which zeno since there are 2 of them, which means future trunks world was also brought back
False. You can't use the Super Dragonballs to make a wish in another timeline. That's why each timeline has their own. Once Zamasu destroyed the SDBs, it was a wrap. Even bulma said if Trunks dies, he can't be wished back.
Ven100 correct
@@Ven100 Weired bcoz trunks died b4 and was ressuracted by main timeline Shenron
It’s a mystery that will probably never be fully addressed. If so, only vaguely. Just like how they said Planet Vegeta was never the “original” Planet Vegeta
6:31 oh man a shiny piccolo
Yea
With Zeno it's so hard to say. He might have deleted those universe for a good reason, but there's a just as big chance he just did it during a tantrum, or simply because he wasn't impressed by their mortal level.
This is probably my favorite video you have done so far.
I hope those universe gets explored. Dragon ball has so much potential to expand a lot more.
Imagine a movie of the 6 Evil Gods of Destruction, Angels, and Kais seeking revenge against the Omni King.
I had a theory that the 18 universes were matched in groups of three before zeno destroyed 6 of them, leaving only twin universes.
That's a good theory
11:50 what's up with Goku's hair? Random bump on the top right lol
The wind
@@gwroly The panel is not normally like that.
@@mikados0173 ?
@@gwroly Goku's hair in the manga panel were not like that.
17 had wished all the universes back so that should mean that all 18 universes are back
I feel like those 6 Universes were brought up for a reason
Probably just to say that zeno has destroyed universes before so the threat would be real....toriyama isn't a super far thinker and even forgets about characters and plot lines....like how he forgot about launch
The intro to the "Mysteries" segment is HIlarious...
My theory : Zalama is zeno and it was Zalama who destroyed 13-18 universes ,due to absolute power Zalama mind was corrupted and for some reason he destroyed those universes ,in order to futher avoide any mistake or a to solve any mistake he will do in future he created super dragon balls and due to this he became child like ( I don't know why creating super dragon balls will make him child like)
It makes no sense to me...
Do other planets have Kami's as protectors like Earth and Namek?
I dont think so. I think Geekdoms talked about it before.
i'm sure they do or some sort of protection cause that's what the kai's are for each galaxy has its own protector so that means each side has its main guardian or's that planet will die and drawn out without people knowing.
@@mysticstrikeforce5957 if every planet has a good then why would there be need for a Kaio?
Zenoh: *rules beeings which lived for billions of years*
Geekdom: Zenoh is hundreds *maybe* even thousands of years old
Geekdom, you "Unsolved Mysteries" intro! You took me back! You got me laughing bro. That was dope. 🤣🤣🤣
DBZ narrator voice:
Next time on Geekdom 101 "the mystery of the Namekian book of legends"
Me: I've been waiting for this
It'd be cool to me if the Friza race was the evil that tried to overthrow Zeno. That would explain why every version of his race we've seen is evil and why he seemed really interested in gaining Zeno's power. Highly doubt they would ever go with something this crazy but it would be an awesome way to expand on the lore of the Friza race and a way for Friza to make an awesome comeback and become menacing again. Throw in a new transformation that Friza learns from some other evil universe whatever version of himself and you have an epic arc.
Bruh Zeno has probably been around for billions of years. If not more.
Yeah I mean it was told that Beerus killed the dinosaurs on Earth 75,000,000 years ago. (Which is weird considering how there are plenty of them lol).
And the old perv Kaio shin was sealed in the Z sword before that (if i'm not wrong), so yeah, Zeno is old as fuck.
Zeno must've been 1 sextillion + years
Maybe there was once A tournament of power and the last universe made a selfish wish and zeno erased them maybe.
Or They are too strong and too evil that the grand priest,angels think they are a threat to them and erased them I guess
That thumbnail is awesome
Hey Geekdom just letting you know Lucifer rebelled against God during the new testament not the old.
That intro bringing back the unsolved mysteries them. Digging it man
Great content Geekdom, I love this! In depth and thorough. Keeps the Dragon Ball fandom speculating and most importantly ALIVE!! Triple like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yo the intro to this was so dank. Please make more of these lmaoooo
Maybe there was a previous Tournament of Power in which each losing Universes' God of Destructions did not get wiped out... and those 5 GoDs eventually rebelled against Zeno and paid the price for it... changing the "rule" to the way it is now - GoDs also get deleted.
These types of videos and the QNA ones are the best imo, keep up the great work bro!
I've had a theory about Zeno. My theory is Zeno is the ultra God of destruction and he in a way represents something by being a innocent child like entity that could so easily erase a universe. If this was the case then there would have to be a ultra God of life, maybe that's zalama 🤷🏽♂️
@Martin Ramirez We still don't know if he is the god of ALL. We just know that he is the god of the omniverse.
Ultimate GOD = Zeno
Ultimate Angel = Grand Priest
Ultimate Creator = ?
Interesting idea... kinda makes me want Zalama to be like the Shinjin in a way.
@Martin Ramirez Not necessarily, there could be something bigger than the omniverse for all we know.
@Martin Ramirez from what we have seen zeno can only destroy, that's why I think in reality he's just kinda like an ultra God of destruction.
Martin Ramirez It’s true but when Whis explained that there are 12 universes that make up the Omniverse everyone was surprised and they were not expecting this. I’m not trying to make this a controversial topic but just because it has the word Omni doesn’t mean that it is everything. Translating Japanese to English is really difficult and it can be different depending on the translation. For example, on the English dub it said Omniverse but on the English sub it said multiverse. Do some research before commenting something controversial.
I think we definitely deserve to finally know about the history of the gods, angels, etc. We kinda got them out of nowhere and they play such an important role it’s only right we start getting some answers!!
I like that idea I hope that if super ever comes back I hope we really see makaioshen
I keep wondering if The Grand Priest was one of the turned Angels and he just either was never found out or Zeno knew and destroyed those 6 Universes full of rebellious/evil souls to make an example. Doesn’t explain why Zeno would want them to be brought back unless they need to be there for the sake of balance of this isn’t Zeno’s true form and those six Universes succeeded in reducing Zeno to his current state and Zeno just destroyed the Universes as a reflex and forgot and The Grand Priest realized that he still couldn’t defeat Zeno so he instead chose to try and manipulate him some way.
I really like your theories !
I always took it as him getting really angry at something and destroyed a few universes at complete random, like a kid throwing a tantrum and breaking their toys.
Right before the little Dragon Ball Mysteries intro sequence, you had the shot of Goku with his hand on King Kai's back using King Kai as a telephone; it made me just think of something. Has Goku ever used Instantaneous Movement to bring King Kai with him somewhere?
I would like to know what made the Dragon Balls crack in the past. We know that the Shadow Dragons of GT were not the first Shadow Dragons. It would be great to find out who the person was who originally fought against them and Omega. They were clearly too late to save they're galaxy. Half of it was destroyed. Who was this fighter that battled against Omega and the other dragons? Was it a Saiyan? Was it one of the Gods of Destruction?
when the universes were 18, the twin universe of universe 7 was universe 12, which after the re-arrange has the 2nd highest mortal level while universae 7 has the 2nd lowest one.
I love this video. Very philosophical. Makes you think about the nature of the divine.
I love this theory this would be an incredibly refreshing arc. I really hope they do something with this it has so much potential.
I would love to see more bout the four that didn't need to be in the TOP. I really hope they continue about these universes when Dragon Ball returns. Even if it's just in movies format.
that intro is phenomenal bro
an original broly destroyer god, one who understands destruction on a different level and loves it
I bet Zeno will mention to Goku how strong the universes were that he deleted and Goku wishes them back with the super dragon balls just for the challenge
Oh my goodness, the opening. That brought back some youthful memories.
What I'd like to know, and it might have some connection to the destroyed universes, is why Zeno needs his bodyguards when the Grand Priest is his prime servant and how many of those bodyguards does he have. Maybe there's a bodyguard representing each universe, just like the angels, and there could be bodyguards remaining from the destroyed ones.
“Dragon ball Mysteries!” Love it bro!!
Tournament of power premise: "Hard to manage too many universes, let's erase some."
I wouldn't be surprised if the first 6 to be erased was erased because of the same reason.
This was definently the first time I ever heard the words bible, god, and dragonball all in the same sentence.
Finally someone brings this topic back up
This has possibly the best opening I've ever seen, as someone who loved Unsolved Mysteries back in the 90s.
This was very interesting, to add to your theory at the end. Maybe when a universe rebeled against zeno he not only destroyed that universe, but its twin universe as well. Could make sense considering there are an even number of destroyed universes. It would also mean zeno wouldn't have to change the other universes just re-number them in a way that there twin universe stays the opposite number. (1-12, 2-11,...)
Just a random thought.
Imagine only 1 Universe was going to be wiped out and it was Universe 13 and Zeno was like I don't wanna re-number all the universes just gonna wipe out the next 6
Merno and other Angel's tried to rebel against Zeno lmao
Honestly this had me so curious and it inspired me to make a new fan manga dealing with these deleted universes but with a huge twist i enjoy just wondering about thia question
Zeno: "Let's shoot some pool."
Priest: "I'm missing 6 balls."
Zeno: "I got it. Let's use these six."
Destroyed real lives by accident.
Bro you need a start a dbz University, and be the dean, I'll be in class early and faithfully
Damn bro. I could listen to your videos forever. They are always so well thought out and informative.
Thanks a lot bro
Xeno by far has to be over a million years old considering the fact that Beerus has been the God of destruction for 75 million years.
Zenos threatened to erase 8 universes for his entertainment in the beginning of TOP arc and at the end of the arc it's almost like it's a joke to Zeno and universes were to be bought back by Android 17's wish, Grand Priest explained to Universe 7 that Zenos were to erase the universe anyway if they make selfish wishes from Super Shenron. It seemed less likely now that universe 13-18 were to be brought back after Moro arc.
It was only mentioned once in the anime and I don't know if it was ever mentioned in the manga. Sadly it might just be a throwaway line Tori/Toyotara doesn't consider canon. I wish otherwise because with the wording of 17's wish you could expand the setting with these enigmatic worlds
Makaioshin: all right tomorrow we proceed as planned.they'll never expect it..
6ix9ine:aye zeno, let me holla at you for a second blood
Quest for Power can corrupt and lead to Rebellion, and that will usually lead to destruction, that's probably what happened to these universes.
Zeno destroyed them,because someone getting to much power and reaching his level of power.
Zeno is also stated he knew what was going to happen be for it did so Zeno already knows what's going to happen. I feel like Zeno is alot more aware of everything than he let's us believe and he knows how it will turn out I also think the Zenos gave goku power in the T.O.P so he would get MUI remember zeno gave Goku power for the spirit bomb or gankidama I'm Just Saiyan HGD PEACE
I think only the universes that were erased during the TOP were brought back not the other 6 that were erased prior to the TOP
I REALLY want this explored in the near future
Makes sense there was a great Angel that u mention that got removed because it’s like Lucifer did take 1/3 of the Angels with him to turn against God. Trying to Put himself above God but failed easily. What is 1/3 of 18 universes come up? 6 universes that got erased. Since Android 17 wish the erasing universes to restore I wonder if they did brought back the corrupted universes as well? This is the mystery 🤔
When I first seen that whis was training a new angel, this was the first things that popped into my mind. The other universes must have been brought back with 17's wish.
Thank you for this, for a long time little to no one talked about it, I mean, come on, the gods and zeno were basically asking a good hearted mortal to make such wish. Maybe the same conundrum was presented to those previously erased universe and their absence due to erasure is a result of it. What alien races do they have, it is also implied that some universes that didn't perticipate in the already have strong or advanced people maybe some sorta civilisation scaling or mortality rating or something 🤔
Everytime this is brought up I think about the quote that Beerus said.
He warned Goku not to mess with the Omni King as he is not who he seems.
As in he knew what happened with these erased universes, and it just sounded like he erased them for a ridiculous reason
Remember how there are six pairs of 2 universes in super? Maybe with all 18 universes there are six pairs of 3 universes. For example universes 6 and 7.
I love the remix to “Unsolved Mysteries” the DbZ version. That was creative Geekdom! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here is a serious question, if the Future Zeno was involved in the eradification of all of the Universes in the Tournament of Power, does that mean that what he did in Trunk's timeline can be traced back to there, and with the wish that Android 17 made, does that mean that Zamasu and Goku Black are back ? (Involve this question in another one of your videos)
What if we’re thinking to hard here, Zeno might’ve literally destroyed the other universes in a fit of anger. There may not even be a reason, he just did it.
This video just gave me the next piece to my Universe 6 arc plot theory and I love it. Thanks dude!
I think the reason why zeno destroyed the other 6 universes is that they were too many universes in the zeno-verse
This is gonna be a banger
Thanks!
Great video Geekdom 🙏
they were changed into gems for the grand priest to power up to obtain freedom from zeno
On your recent video you asked why or how the "6" universe's were destroyed im guessing the pre-dated copy of universe 7 or 12 have a slim string to yamoshi and a great battle against the other "5" universe's to fight with zeno (to explain why he likes goku) or the makaioshins???
This topic , this video was one of your best yet! Good job💪🇺🇸💙
I think moro is from the 13-18 universe's and when they got revived by 17 a chain reaction occurred allowing moro to get his magic back and break out of the galactic patrol prison
Moro would be great introduction to makaioshins(?). At the end, before defeating him he could drop some hint that he was in that rebellion and had to take shins on their side or destroy them
You never love my comments geekdom