Never once did Gundy say he was against players getting paid. Not once! So many comments about something he never said! There’s a time and place for coaches’ salary or players’ NIL payment negotiations. That stands true whether you’re in the business or sports world. All Gundy is saying is put a hold on it until after the season is over.
If that’s true, why do they charge people to watch the games. The minute you do that it becomes a business. And college football is a multi billion dollar business.
Was always another hypocrisy. College sports have always been the anteroom of pro sports. College sports (football and bball) are prime time hence major businesses, so it's only fair that players get their due. Just need to organize professionally instead of allowing this lawless amateurism mess to continue.
Colege sports really was just the next stage of the plantation model. They dangled a college degree, with no guarantee of completion since scholarships had to be renewed yearly and of ever diminishing utility given corporate america and the job market, in exchange for the student athletes putting their bodies on the line so the ncaa and the member institutions could soak up million/billion dollar tv contracts and pay the plantation owner (the head coaches) very lucrative contracts. This is why I never begrudged a player taking a payoff. They were the ones taking all the risks and little chance of a huge reward.
Agree with the greed part, but the greed is spread around TV and media rights, colleges, coaches, etc. The NCAA made about 1 billion in 2019 while their sports tickets and rights generated about 19 billion. The NCAA is 1/19 of the greed factor.
It's THE reason Saban got out. He had nothing else left to prove, and it wasn't worth it to have kids trying to strong-arm him in a recruiting visit. Or their parents.
@CutFromADifferentCloth7 so because Nick Saban is a great recruiter and incredible coach who is better than most coaches at both things your idea of helping coaches who aren’t that good “even the playing field” by waiving money in kids faces to get them to go to their school? Look at the elite coaches, Urban Meyer was able to recruit top talent and coach well at Florida (haven’t been the same since he left) he did the same thing at Ohio State. Michigan was pretty bad most years until Jim Harbaugh showed up and recruited top talent and was a great coach. That’s why schools spent big money on those great coaches cause they were great at recruiting and coaching. Now coaches don’t matter because recruiting is useless it’s just “who gonna give me the most money” and now you have kids who haven’t done anything thinking they’re CD lamb and Jamar Chase in the NFL wanting more money to play and having their agents try to get it.. during the season after they just signed a NIL deal.. give this a few years and it’s gonna blow up horribly in NCAA’s faces because giving players (basically kids 18-20) all the power is going to be a train wreck
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7it didn't even out the playing field at all. How are teams like Houston, Indiana, ect supposed to compete with Georgia and other teams who have unlimited booster money.
Dear 918Guy, you seem like you do not know the definition of a non-profit. Non-profit does NOT mean no revenue or no surplus. But the NIL money is from OUTSIDE the schools. Most of the schools are actually STATE entities. E.g., LSU, Oklahoma, UT-Austin, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Oregon ...
@@brianjacob8728spot on. Read that every year college tuition increase 4x the rate of inflation. Since the mid 80’s the average cost of college has risen something like 500%.
@@brianjacob8728 They get put back into the schools. At Georgia, there are tons of construction projects going on at any point. Non-proift doesn't mean no revenue.
don't think college football ever had any integrity. Notre Dame used to use ringers who weren't even enrolled in school back in the leather helmet era.
I have no sympathy for anyone involved in the College Sports System that has been extorting these kids for a literal century. I hope these players get every cent they deserve and even some they don't
@@jakehutchison5761yes they know the risks, which is why they are making the most of the opportunity monetarily and you want me to cry you a river about that 😂
"It's so much more work now that we can't exploit these kids!" These schools have been doing shady stuff for a long time and now that the players have money to not get pushed around it's a problem.
Nah c'mon this is different. Not even NFL teams have to deal with this. This would be like every single season right before the playoffs start the entire team is being solicited with offers to leave to a different team the next season.
@@zachstolpa6521 No, but it is a problem for team cohesion and the coaching staff. So it only hurts a player indirectly in that in lessens the cohesion of the unit as a whole.
@@loganleroy8622 you aren’t wrong in some cases where this can be a factor but as people adjust those things usually fall back to earth as people get more Adjusted. I’m not denying how this is still a work in progress, I just personally mainly blame the people who actually had the power to facilitate something about dealing with this fairly but were to in their ways not to and now what you are bringing up is their consequence of the higher ups who like I said neglected dealing with this in the first place.
Yes, and he coaches during the season, and negotiates his contract during the offseason. He’s telling the students to do the same. The season is for playing, the offseason is for NIL. I don’t see what the issue is
The people who keep saying they don’t mind the athletes getting theres are basically okay with the college game being a train wreck. Paying college athletes like free agents is a catastrophe.
When I went to college which has a good football program the players were treated like royalty. Scholarships and grants while the rest of us worked part time jobs and accumulated debt. They already were getting a lot more than the average student. If colleges have money to pay football players they should lower tuition for everyone else!!
oh the hypocrisy. its ok for coaches to constantly dishonor their contracts and go work for a different school but when a player wants to get paid its not. These coaches need to shut the hell up with their its about tradition and honoring commitments. How about honoring your own contracts instead of jumping from school to school when you get caught in a scandal.
It is the wild west right now, and I also think it's nuts that there is a portal in December. A portal in the Spring is fine, but in December it's just wrong.
I love Gundy. He’s not constantly moving around to make more money. Same for Kirk Frenz. They have solid programs every year, put lots of kids in the NFL.
Coaches get paid millions per year off the kids and the huge business called College Football, but they shouldn't be bothered with players now leveraging their power into proper money? Those coaches are despicable hypocrites. Just get a GM and get on with it.
Exactly, let the suits and all scramble and have to show accountability and actual craft a reasonable system. Them crying and wanting folks to cry them a river about players taking advantage of it is just the cherry on top.
Football is a business. College or the NFL. The way of thinking of school pride and/or tradition is for the fans, students and the older generations. Everyone is making money except the athlete themselves.
Player contracts are mostly likely what's next. The portal is really the most difficult thing for coaches because you have to convince every player on the team to stay every transfer season. Contracts would would bring some measure of stability year to year.
@@dr.markevers8331That's the solution to all of this, why would a booster give you serious money if you aren't obligated to actually play for a particular school?
The NIL will be great for the NFL. We’re seeing the learning curve of rookies shortened dramatically bc they’re taking a professional approach. That discipline was a big wildcard historically.
Okay Rich, you have influence...right after this year's NCAA national championship game, every college football team that finishes this year ranked 1 through 5...HBO Hard Knocks...Portals, Payola and Promises...NCAA Football off-season...all 5 teams followed through the entire time until players commit. Open mics with players, agents, coaches, sponsors, boosters, etc. What an eye opening world we would see.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the major programs need to form a college football pro league, and the teams should be owned by their schools and/or state.
Tbh I’m not a big fan of the NIL deals BUT I also want those players to get money I think sooner than later probably in the next 2-3 years the ncaa is going to nerf the deals and put a cap on this your giving these kids way too much “power” not that anyone has shown miss use of the NIL deal yet and thats a good sign but I think it needs to be a limit for sure the transfer portal is great tho
I know it's crazy for Americans, but you don't need a single league managing everything to make sure contracts are 'fair'. European sports works with teams as business entities, you don't have to have a monopoly that abuses the players
The only reason college football is as popular as it is is because it's tied to universities. The system of sports in the US is just completely different from the ground up compared to Europe.
What has to happen now is the NCAA needs to acknowledge the fact that they have no say in the current college football scene. Salary caps must be enabled, and a tier established in each level, whatever that may be. wihtout this, chaos will keep happening.
So will there be a cap now? Does the SEC become even more of a juggernaut because of the overall wealth of the conference? I’m with players getting paid but damn this gonna take 3-4 years to adjust and even then that’s rushed
Apparently the ppl in the comments think it’s ridiculous for coaches to want to have good teams with good players 💀 money isn’t everything, but according to y’all we should be saying how dare they also want to enjoy their jobs
He is 100% right. The nil, and transfer portal are killing college football. These kids don't really care about the college or school pride. It's all about money now which is really sad.
The schools make Millions and Billions while the student athletes get little to nothing off of their name and likeness does that sound like a fair deal? Only users, exploiters and people with no talent share your opinion.
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7 Don't like it then don't play. No one is forcing them. They are getting scholarships and attending college for free already. Go cry me a river.
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7 each school is different but the athletes arent the only ones making money. schools have to pay salaries for thousands of other employees at each school.
If they are going to make 2 divisions and a bunch of conferences just do it already this lagging is hurting and set a cap for nil money spread depending on how well the team does or something
It seems like these athletic directors need to start stepping up and handling business. These coaches should be focused on football, the AD should be handling the agents and family. These coaches are acting like schools don't have the NFL model to work off, seems like the old guard is salty they won't be hanging around until they're 80 because they're fed up with the new way of doing things. Oh well, business is business.
I love hearing these old school coaches whine about this. These multi millionaire coaches can't bully around their players anymore. A new bread of coach will take over college football.
Everyone in college football gets paid. Coaches, staff, admins, broadcasters. It makes perfect sense that the guys getting their heads cracked and bodies punished get paid as well. We just need a system across the board that teams and players have to abide by.
These college coaches are hilarious, sitting there complaining about players making money and stating there’s no loyalty when they themselves are only loyal until the next paycheck
I don't know why Sankey and Petitti just won't end this nonsense and breakaway from the NCAA and start their own league. Enough already. The CFP is already operating independently from the NCAA. Both the Big Ten and SEC have by far the most revenue and the best programs. Stop delaying the inevitable. 64 teams with 8 4 team divisions in each the SEC and Big Ten, just like the NFL does it. Quarterfinals in each conference and the College Football Superbowl at the end. Heck you could incorporate the existing bowls in locations that geographically favor the higher-seeded team, i.e. Georgia wins a division their quarterfinal game can be in the Peach Bowl, Texas wins a division their quarterfinal game can be in the Cotton Bowl, etc. I know Sankey and Petitti don't want to look like the bad guys in this but they have to take control before it gets any worse, because the last thing anyone wants is for Congress to get involved.
Alabama and Georgia dont complain they just get it done. Alabama hired a great GM and Georgia has started fining players money for bad conduct. Its a pro sport now and whoever adapts will survive.
The answer is simple, establish a standard payment schedule by Division by position with structured performance bonuses by postion. The are all structured and defined . As far as the portal, only open on off season and can only enter once.
Yes, remember that time when Gundy coached Oklahoma his first year, his second year, LSU his third year, and Florida his fourth year? No, you don’t, because it never happened, which is part of what makes your stupid comment here aflawed comparison.
When are we going to just stop calling it "college football"? Nobody is working for a degree, everyone is a free agent with no attachment to any school, rivalries disappearing, etc. The argument that this is "better" or "more fair" as guys getting paid is an argument that with an empty, sad foundation.
Some people don't want to here this but Northwestern tried to solve this problem in a way several years ago by forminthen g a union. The simple fact is even if a super league is formed if they start passing rules, especially on compensation without the players being represented then it will be an antitrust violation. They don't even have to reinvent the wheel here because they can ry to talk to the different unions that represent the NFL & NBA players to put together a structure that would fit all of college athletes.
Rich finally hit the solution at 9:25. The central conflict is that an antiquated academic management system (NCAA) is now grappling with high end sports business management. The NCAA isn’t managing well because they are not built for it. Rich suggests private equity takeover as one strategy. Another is to take Premier College Football public under a professional management team and let the founding schools hold stock. NIL is not the issue, as Rich points out, but rather a portal that opens too early and contracts that have no enforcement structure - because the NCAA has no expertise in commercial sports management and they let the whole thing reel out of control. Of course, then we’ll get another FIFA, and gee that’s such a clean business!! Haha!😮😅
They prefer to pay the players behind closed doors. Competing in the open for talent isn’t easy. There’s a reason Mike is stuck in college meandering in with a subpar record.
Saying Nil isnt tied to performance puts the athlete near par with the coach. Many a coach is hired with expectations. If he doesnt fulfill it in 2 to 4 years he is gone usually with a buyout. The athlete has expectations. If he isnt very good the nil gravy dries up. Its hard to understand why people are mad about what others do with their own money. Some people give to cooperatives who give out nil. Gundy frankly has been around a long time and hasnt been that succesful. If the University wants to keep him I guess thats their business too.
Make collegiate football (and maybe other sports) teams professional club teams. They're already professional, but in the worst way possible. Separate their finances from the schools, except for leasing the stadiums and other facilities, and let the schools be about academics. The fan base can still root for the teams.
The coach is an employment position so yes they make money. The players are student athletes. They get everything and to not have adversity means no development. If you make the students a job via athletics you now become subject to so many obstacles of having a college football program that is filled with those who want to play and those who only put out effort for money. Motivational factors do matter. College football in time could see their demise. A few players making all the money wiil never work.
He said nothing wrong whatsoever. There was no rant. This is a big nothing burger that you talking heads are trying your best to make into something controversial. Take off your diapers.
Never once did Gundy say he was against players getting paid. Not once! So many comments about something he never said! There’s a time and place for coaches’ salary or players’ NIL payment negotiations. That stands true whether you’re in the business or sports world. All Gundy is saying is put a hold on it until after the season is over.
I think NIL deals should be contracted so that the players have to stay at that school for the length of time designated in the NIL contract.
This the death of the whole *_"College football is better because it's more about passion & tradition"_*
Which was ALWAYS bullshit
Lol the good ol "I like college football more than the NFL because it's pure" bullshit reasoning.
If that’s true, why do they charge people to watch the games. The minute you do that it becomes a business. And college football is a multi billion dollar business.
And that was never true lmao
Was always another hypocrisy. College sports have always been the anteroom of pro sports. College sports (football and bball) are prime time hence major businesses, so it's only fair that players get their due. Just need to organize professionally instead of allowing this lawless amateurism mess to continue.
College football as we knew and loved it is gone, forever.
Yup
This could have all been avoided if schools did right by players years ago and developed a pay system. This what you get for being greedy
Absolutely! The kids didn’t even get 4 years guaranteed scholarships!! You know, the student part!!
@@matiastrevino7066 The football program monopolizes the players' time, and they don't receive a legitimate education.
Yup
Colege sports really was just the next stage of the plantation model. They dangled a college degree, with no guarantee of completion since scholarships had to be renewed yearly and of ever diminishing utility given corporate america and the job market, in exchange for the student athletes putting their bodies on the line so the ncaa and the member institutions could soak up million/billion dollar tv contracts and pay the plantation owner (the head coaches) very lucrative contracts.
This is why I never begrudged a player taking a payoff. They were the ones taking all the risks and little chance of a huge reward.
NIL IS the pay system. What specifically would you have done with what you're referring to as a pay system?
Being a college sports fan is now like rooting for Walmart without owning any stock.
College football teams need a GM now.
Teams are actually hiring them too I know alabama and Clemson both have them
@@Murftree74 Oklahoma has one too
FSU has one as well
They already have them
@@chrisoconnor9042UGA too
NCAA has ruined College Football bc of their greed. Big shock. Next up, High Schools
Agree with the greed part, but the greed is spread around TV and media rights, colleges, coaches, etc. The NCAA made about 1 billion in 2019 while their sports tickets and rights generated about 19 billion. The NCAA is 1/19 of the greed factor.
High school will be tough because 1) labor laws for minors 2) very few high schools have tv deals
This part.
The SEC and Big 10 have ruined college athletics, not just football, because of their greed.
It’s already being talked about down south somewhere. I can’t find the article thiugh.
My boy gundy always tells it like it is
It's THE reason Saban got out. He had nothing else left to prove, and it wasn't worth it to have kids trying to strong-arm him in a recruiting visit. Or their parents.
The students are going to who gives them the best deal.
No, Saban left because NIL leveled the playing field with respects to recruiting and he couldn't get All of the top players in the country anymore.
@CutFromADifferentCloth7 so because Nick Saban is a great recruiter and incredible coach who is better than most coaches at both things your idea of helping coaches who aren’t that good “even the playing field” by waiving money in kids faces to get them to go to their school? Look at the elite coaches, Urban Meyer was able to recruit top talent and coach well at Florida (haven’t been the same since he left) he did the same thing at Ohio State. Michigan was pretty bad most years until Jim Harbaugh showed up and recruited top talent and was a great coach. That’s why schools spent big money on those great coaches cause they were great at recruiting and coaching. Now coaches don’t matter because recruiting is useless it’s just “who gonna give me the most money” and now you have kids who haven’t done anything thinking they’re CD lamb and Jamar Chase in the NFL wanting more money to play and having their agents try to get it.. during the season after they just signed a NIL deal.. give this a few years and it’s gonna blow up horribly in NCAA’s faces because giving players (basically kids 18-20) all the power is going to be a train wreck
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7it didn't even out the playing field at all. How are teams like Houston, Indiana, ect supposed to compete with Georgia and other teams who have unlimited booster money.
There are only so many schools that can compete with Alabama financially. Please.
Gundy is not wrong here. Are college programs supposed to negotiate deals for players every month throughout the year? That isn’t realistic.
Welp, doesn’t sound like the players problem.
@@zachstolpa6521it is if they don't get more money.
Well coaches are always negotiating their own deals.
@@G_Anonymous123 No they aren't, and that's a BS comparison anyway. 1 coach vs. a whole team?
@@G_Anonymous123No they’re not.
These schools are "non-profit" organizations remember 😂😂😂
Dear 918Guy, you seem like you do not know the definition of a non-profit. Non-profit does NOT mean no revenue or no surplus. But the NIL money is from OUTSIDE the schools. Most of the schools are actually STATE entities. E.g., LSU, Oklahoma, UT-Austin, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Oregon ...
yeah, when their tuitions have been rising at multiple rates of inflation for decades. Where's all this money if they are nonprofits?
@@brianjacob8728spot on. Read that every year college tuition increase 4x the rate of inflation. Since the mid 80’s the average cost of college has risen something like 500%.
@@brianjacob8728 They get put back into the schools. At Georgia, there are tons of construction projects going on at any point. Non-proift doesn't mean no revenue.
@@HTHAMMACK1 it also doesn't mean exploiting the students...
I mean the integrity of college football is long gone.
It never existed.
When was it ever there?
Oh cry me a river 😂
Has been gone for decades
don't think college football ever had any integrity. Notre Dame used to use ringers who weren't even enrolled in school back in the leather helmet era.
I have no sympathy for anyone involved in the College Sports System that has been extorting these kids for a literal century. I hope these players get every cent they deserve and even some they don't
100% agreed.
A free college degree from a major university is worthless? Everybody is so selfish and jaded its insane.
@@jakehutchison5761 when it’s stipulated and come at the cost of your body it’s not exactly as YOU THINK. It seems, go scratch
@@zachstolpa6521 People who play football know the risks. If they were worried about that they wouldn't have strapped on the helmet.
@@jakehutchison5761yes they know the risks, which is why they are making the most of the opportunity monetarily and you want me to cry you a river about that 😂
"It's so much more work now that we can't exploit these kids!" These schools have been doing shady stuff for a long time and now that the players have money to not get pushed around it's a problem.
Nah c'mon this is different. Not even NFL teams have to deal with this. This would be like every single season right before the playoffs start the entire team is being solicited with offers to leave to a different team the next season.
@@loganleroy8622 welp that doesn’t sound like the players problem lol
@@zachstolpa6521 No, but it is a problem for team cohesion and the coaching staff. So it only hurts a player indirectly in that in lessens the cohesion of the unit as a whole.
@@loganleroy8622 you aren’t wrong in some cases where this can be a factor but as people adjust those things usually fall back to earth as people get more Adjusted. I’m not denying how this is still a work in progress, I just personally mainly blame the people who actually had the power to facilitate something about dealing with this fairly but were to in their ways not to and now what you are bringing up is their consequence of the higher ups who like I said neglected dealing with this in the first place.
Stupid take
College coaches are the real divas.
No, that would be college athletes
You probably didn't get that promotion because of work "politics".
Why because they speak the truth?
Gundy has always been one. His "I'm 40!" Rant is legendary.
yeah and so are athletes lol “WAHH I DONT GET PAID 😭”
I find it annoying that the transfer Portal opens before bowl season.
This coach makes 7.6 million per year.
your point?
@@mizer9510He made it.
Yes, and he coaches during the season, and negotiates his contract during the offseason. He’s telling the students to do the same. The season is for playing, the offseason is for NIL. I don’t see what the issue is
@@mizer9510why coaches should make money but players shouldn’t?
Yes to coach football, not deal with teenagers demanding more money and holding out or threatening to transfer
The people who keep saying they don’t mind the athletes getting theres are basically okay with the college game being a train wreck. Paying college athletes like free agents is a catastrophe.
Why do you hate capitalism? 🇺🇸
@@007ndc I didn't say that. Why argue so poorly?
When I went to college which has a good football program the players were treated like royalty. Scholarships and grants while the rest of us worked part time jobs and accumulated debt. They already were getting a lot more than the average student. If colleges have money to pay football players they should lower tuition for everyone else!!
oh the hypocrisy. its ok for coaches to constantly dishonor their contracts and go work for a different school but when a player wants to get paid its not. These coaches need to shut the hell up with their its about tradition and honoring commitments. How about honoring your own contracts instead of jumping from school to school when you get caught in a scandal.
Hes been the head coach there since 2005
^
Tell me you know nothing about coach Gundy without telling me you know nothing about coach Gundy.
You literally have no idea what you’re talking about
They have to pay buyouts when they leave early
But why they never complained about coaches negotiating deals during the season ????
No, it's fine. The big man just can't be bothered when players want to get paid.
It’s all about power to the coaches and the colleges they keep the players down in every way
@@jakemf1 they never had any issue with the chaos till now 🤣
It is the wild west right now, and I also think it's nuts that there is a portal in December. A portal in the Spring is fine, but in December it's just wrong.
That wasn’t really a r a n t per se
I agree. But for me, it's an eye opener about college football. Perhaps I'm naive.
Gundy is well known for rants, that's not a rant.
College sports are just minor league professional teams, now.
Always had been, it’s just that things are “above” board now where the world can see…
I love Gundy. He’s not constantly moving around to make more money. Same for Kirk Frenz. They have solid programs every year, put lots of kids in the NFL.
Imagine the NFL starting free agency before the playoffs. Great point.
Spot on, Rich.
Silence is golden!
I Love it. Players should make as much money as they can. It's the American's way.
Capitalism, baby🎉
And they are not doing anything those now whining coaches haven't done to get every last dollar they can get for years.
Coaches get paid millions per year off the kids and the huge business called College Football, but they shouldn't be bothered with players now leveraging their power into proper money? Those coaches are despicable hypocrites. Just get a GM and get on with it.
Exactly. All the mf love capitalism until capitalism happens. This is what you want guys lol.
Exactly, let the suits and all scramble and have to show accountability and actual craft a reasonable system. Them crying and wanting folks to cry them a river about players taking advantage of it is just the cherry on top.
Amazing that everybody has forgotten these are supposed to be academic institutions and the players are supposed to be STUDENT-athletes.
So why are the coaches usually the highest paid state employees? You don't seem to have an issue with that😂😂
Football is a business. College or the NFL. The way of thinking of school pride and/or tradition is for the fans, students and the older generations. Everyone is making money except the athlete themselves.
Making excuses for greed is just as evil.
Player contracts are mostly likely what's next. The portal is really the most difficult thing for coaches because you have to convince every player on the team to stay every transfer season. Contracts would would bring some measure of stability year to year.
Is this the “IM A MAN IM 40!!!” Guy?
Yes! Lol
Yes. The 🐐
@@PapiChuloooo669ur goat hasn’t won a conference championship in 13 years
Cfb is a mess. Portal, NIL, and realignment are killing it.
Blame the greedy universities. They were running a monopoly with basically slave labor, not exactly, but in no other business would this be legal.
You’re right Rich
You can’t have unlimited free agency all the time. No league has that nor could they survive with it. It’s insanity.
Eventually, NIL with come with multi-year contracts and that will help.
@@dr.markevers8331That's the solution to all of this, why would a booster give you serious money if you aren't obligated to actually play for a particular school?
The NIL will be great for the NFL. We’re seeing the learning curve of rookies shortened dramatically bc they’re taking a professional approach. That discipline was a big wildcard historically.
Boosters are the boggest problem.
Half y’all commenting didn’t even watch the video lmao
Okay Rich, you have influence...right after this year's NCAA national championship game, every college football team that finishes this year ranked 1 through 5...HBO Hard Knocks...Portals, Payola and Promises...NCAA Football off-season...all 5 teams followed through the entire time until players commit. Open mics with players, agents, coaches, sponsors, boosters, etc. What an eye opening world we would see.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: the major programs need to form a college football pro league, and the teams should be owned by their schools and/or state.
Just like politicians, it depends on who gets the money. Privatized entertainment.
I would love to have people admit that a 4-6 year ship is worth 60k a year so yes the players were in fact getting paid before.
It is anti trust violation. It always has been. One company/organization can control a whole industry. There need to be multiple college football orgs
Tbh I’m not a big fan of the NIL deals BUT I also want those players to get money I think sooner than later probably in the next 2-3 years the ncaa is going to nerf the deals and put a cap on this your giving these kids way too much “power” not that anyone has shown miss use of the NIL deal yet and thats a good sign but I think it needs to be a limit for sure the transfer portal is great tho
It’s smart of rich to keep going while others are on vacation
I know it's crazy for Americans, but you don't need a single league managing everything to make sure contracts are 'fair'. European sports works with teams as business entities, you don't have to have a monopoly that abuses the players
These are colleges lol. Put the drink down.
Abuse? This is college athletics, these aren't professional leagues.
The only reason college football is as popular as it is is because it's tied to universities. The system of sports in the US is just completely different from the ground up compared to Europe.
I don’t understand how coaches are “taking advantage of these kids” first, off they are adults. Second, no one is forcing them to play football
When you make $7.5 million off people not even old school enough to legally drink getting concussions then yes that’s taking advantage.
I'll tell you how.... everybody in our culture is a purpetual victim
@@jakehutchison5761 how insightful 🤡
Easy to say that when you don’t play and face the consequences of that
@@zachstolpa6521 Facts are facts no amount of emojis is gonna change that and I did play
“Rant”?
This is absurd. It’s sad for college football.
Give each college a team general manager. Make his pay a percentage of each kids NIL deal. Coaches don’t have to fool with it then.
Shut up and pay your tuition, kids ...
What has to happen now is the NCAA needs to acknowledge the fact that they have no say in the current college football scene. Salary caps must be enabled, and a tier established in each level, whatever that may be. wihtout this, chaos will keep happening.
So will there be a cap now? Does the SEC become even more of a juggernaut because of the overall wealth of the conference? I’m with players getting paid but damn this gonna take 3-4 years to adjust and even then that’s rushed
Apparently the ppl in the comments think it’s ridiculous for coaches to want to have good teams with good players 💀 money isn’t everything, but according to y’all we should be saying how dare they also want to enjoy their jobs
Welp doesn’t sound like the players problem lol
Coaches and unisities make money off the players so let the players make money.
Nope...... the colleges and universities are non-profits remember 😂😂😂😂
*universities
Other students get paid to work on campus, why not athletes?
They already are, where have you been the last few years?
@@Forester- I didn't say they aren't, I'm arguing against those who say it's bad that they are getting paid or that they can transfer universities.
He is 100% right. The nil, and transfer portal are killing college football. These kids don't really care about the college or school pride. It's all about money now which is really sad.
The schools make Millions and Billions while the student athletes get little to nothing off of their name and likeness does that sound like a fair deal? Only users, exploiters and people with no talent share your opinion.
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7 Don't like it then don't play. No one is forcing them. They are getting scholarships and attending college for free already. Go cry me a river.
@@CutFromADifferentCloth7 each school is different but the athletes arent the only ones making money. schools have to pay salaries for thousands of other employees at each school.
@@mizer9510 if the school doesn't like it, they can also shut down the football program. Capitalism rocks
If they are going to make 2 divisions and a bunch of conferences just do it already this lagging is hurting and set a cap for nil money spread depending on how well the team does or something
Obviously, the solution lies somewhere in between them getting nothing and the current NIL fiasco.
figure it out? Vegas has it figured out
Mike’s reply was “I’m a man! Why don’t you come after me! I’m 40”. That’s what he thinks about NIL
A millionaire talking about other peoples money is RICH 😂
Literally lol
Always delightful to see a guy making millions off players complaining about players' greed.
Waiting for SMU to start spending some money again! Lol
Eric Dickerson hinted that he took a pay cut to play in the NFL.
It seems like these athletic directors need to start stepping up and handling business. These coaches should be focused on football, the AD should be handling the agents and family. These coaches are acting like schools don't have the NFL model to work off, seems like the old guard is salty they won't be hanging around until they're 80 because they're fed up with the new way of doing things. Oh well, business is business.
Harbaugh has already gone back to University life once....Why is it so weird to think he ends up there again?
I love hearing these old school coaches whine about this. These multi millionaire coaches can't bully around their players anymore. A new bread of coach will take over college football.
Probably be a loafer.
Dear college football coaches:
Deal with it
Everyone in college football gets paid. Coaches, staff, admins, broadcasters. It makes perfect sense that the guys getting their heads cracked and bodies punished get paid as well. We just need a system across the board that teams and players have to abide by.
Zero Fs Given 😂😂😂
I’m a man!!! I’m 40!!!! Come after me!!!!
OUT OF CONTROL …… HORRIBLE
These college coaches are hilarious, sitting there complaining about players making money and stating there’s no loyalty when they themselves are only loyal until the next paycheck
Gundy's an Oklahoma State alum and I think this is his 20th season as their HC
Just call it "SPFL" (Saturday Professional Football League)...ridiculous
Now all he has to worry about is drunk driving
the NCAA will get right on it as soon as they are done wetting their pants, rolling around, and kicking the floor over Jim Harbaugh.
Harbaugh didn't leave because of the current state of college football and these issues that you speak of.
I don't know why Sankey and Petitti just won't end this nonsense and breakaway from the NCAA and start their own league. Enough already. The CFP is already operating independently from the NCAA. Both the Big Ten and SEC have by far the most revenue and the best programs. Stop delaying the inevitable. 64 teams with 8 4 team divisions in each the SEC and Big Ten, just like the NFL does it. Quarterfinals in each conference and the College Football Superbowl at the end. Heck you could incorporate the existing bowls in locations that geographically favor the higher-seeded team, i.e. Georgia wins a division their quarterfinal game can be in the Peach Bowl, Texas wins a division their quarterfinal game can be in the Cotton Bowl, etc.
I know Sankey and Petitti don't want to look like the bad guys in this but they have to take control before it gets any worse, because the last thing anyone wants is for Congress to get involved.
He can dry his eyes on all the cash he's earned off those kids in years past.....
Alabama and Georgia dont complain they just get it done. Alabama hired a great GM and Georgia has started fining players money for bad conduct. Its a pro sport now and whoever adapts will survive.
Players should be able to make money off of their likeness for sure. But there is probably a better way to do this.
The answer is simple, establish a standard payment schedule by Division by position with structured performance bonuses by postion. The are all structured and defined . As far as the portal, only open on off season and can only enter once.
Doesn’t Gundy make 8 million a year for COACHING and not PLAYING football??? Kick rocks.
This is a stupid comparison. It always has been.
@@HTHAMMACK1 …because the ones doing ALL of the work deserves nothing
Yes, remember that time when Gundy coached Oklahoma his first year, his second year, LSU his third year, and Florida his fourth year?
No, you don’t, because it never happened, which is part of what makes your stupid comment here aflawed comparison.
The man just wants to coach ball and I don't blame him. He wants his players to just focus on ball now that the season is here. No issues with this.
there are college players that make more than NFL players😂😂😂😂
When are we going to just stop calling it "college football"? Nobody is working for a degree, everyone is a free agent with no attachment to any school, rivalries disappearing, etc. The argument that this is "better" or "more fair" as guys getting paid is an argument that with an empty, sad foundation.
This guy makes 8 million dollars a year off these guys blood and sweat.... ANSWER THE DARN PHONE !!!
Some people don't want to here this but Northwestern tried to solve this problem in a way several years ago by forminthen g a union. The simple fact is even if a super league is formed if they start passing rules, especially on compensation without the players being represented then it will be an antitrust violation. They don't even have to reinvent the wheel here because they can ry to talk to the different unions that represent the NFL & NBA players to put together a structure that would fit all of college athletes.
I’m happy the players are being paid what they are deserved but this system as is kinda takes the soul outta college football
Rich finally hit the solution at 9:25. The central conflict is that an antiquated academic management system (NCAA) is now grappling with high end sports business management. The NCAA isn’t managing well because they are not built for it. Rich suggests private equity takeover as one strategy. Another is to take Premier College Football public under a professional management team and let the founding schools hold stock. NIL is not the issue, as Rich points out, but rather a portal that opens too early and contracts that have no enforcement structure - because the NCAA has no expertise in commercial sports management and they let the whole thing reel out of control. Of course, then we’ll get another FIFA, and gee that’s such a clean business!! Haha!😮😅
They prefer to pay the players behind closed doors. Competing in the open for talent isn’t easy. There’s a reason Mike is stuck in college meandering in with a subpar record.
Saying Nil isnt tied to performance puts the athlete near par with the coach. Many a coach is hired with expectations. If he doesnt fulfill it in 2 to 4 years he is gone usually with a buyout. The athlete has expectations. If he isnt very good the nil gravy dries up. Its hard to understand why people are mad about what others do with their own money. Some people give to cooperatives who give out nil. Gundy frankly has been around a long time and hasnt been that succesful. If the University wants to keep him I guess thats their business too.
This has gotten so far from school sports you might as well let those who don’t want to get a degree skip classes and just major in pro sports.
They wanted it and they got it. They will eat themselves
Make collegiate football (and maybe other sports) teams professional club teams. They're already professional, but in the worst way possible. Separate their finances from the schools, except for leasing the stadiums and other facilities, and let the schools be about academics. The fan base can still root for the teams.
20 team Super League, 30-40 second tier. Only 4-6 teams can win the NatChamp. Some years only 2 or 3.
The coach is an employment position so yes they make money. The players are student athletes. They get everything and to not have adversity means no development. If you make the students a job via athletics you now become subject to so many obstacles of having a college football program that is filled with those who want to play and those who only put out effort for money. Motivational factors do matter. College football in time could see their demise. A few players making all the money wiil never work.
Watch the NCAA set a cap on it
He said nothing wrong whatsoever. There was no rant. This is a big nothing burger that you talking heads are trying your best to make into something controversial. Take off your diapers.
True. In fact, Gundy was asking for GMs to send applications.