I worked at a large dealership in Texas for around 6 years and I can tell you from the behind the curtain almost 100% of our certified pre-owned cars we're brought in from rental car companies. So if you're buying a certified pre-owned chances are you're buying a rental car.
I worked for one of the rental car outfits and can tell you that Ray is exactly right; the better conditioned cars are sold directly to the public on the rental car owned lots and the not so great cars are sent to the auction. Toyota's always have rug issues(worn thru) as Toyota never supplied mats. Kia and Hyundai interiors stained like crazy and we could never get them clean. Stay away from the luxury/high end SUV's as they were driven by idiots who would never be able to afford one in the real world. And drove them like they were pissed about that. They most always came back trashed and many times with damage. And forget mini-vans; those came back in looking like they were used as a garbage truck. Disgusting. As far as service records, yes they were tracked in the computer system and if the car was overdue on service, we were unable to rent it out until it had been serviced. Damage and crashes will not appear on CarFax as we were self-insured so no reporting was done. Every car put up for sale has had some damage done to it, might be minor paint or dents/panel replacements. Cars with super low mileage (generally cars were held in the fleet for around 40,000 miles) like 25,000 probably had mechanical issues and are dumped early.
I spoke to a mechanic about purchasing a used 2017 Subaru with 11,000 miles. He said, be very concerned about really low mileage cars, probably been sitting ...cars need to be driven....probably mechanical issues...etc.
I bought a car at a dealer that had been a rental car. I've had it for 6 years now and never had one single issue until last month I needed a 1200 repair, it has 212,000 miles and was a Hyundai Genisis. But other than that I've had zero issues. But it's about time to buy a new one which is why I"m here :)
My parents bought a 2005 Dodge Neon from Enterprise back in 2007, then signed it over to me before my father died. I still have it and have had very little trouble with it.
I use to work for Hetz. We did not mess around when it came to service and maintenance on our cars. Cars would get regular oil changes . And if it needed tires or anything, that was taken care of to. I think buying a rental car is safe. The only ones I would stay away from are the high performance cars or anything with a hemi. People would generally dog those type of cars out. Yea we would service them but I'd be very careful about buying ones like that
I worked for Hertz and Enterprise, and you asked what cars go to a car lot versus what cars go to the actual Hertz or Avis lot. The rule of thumb for Enterprise is the top 10% of the cars goes to company lot. They are selling the cars to there customer base so they only sell the good ones. Also rental car maintenance on cars are very good. For both Hertz and Enterprise cars have to have oil changes done when they are due or the system will not allow you to rent the vehicle. Hertz has a rent to own program where you can rent the vehicle you want to buy for 3 days and then buy it after the 3 days. It’s better than a 20 minute test drive you get at dealerships. Also cars that are not the top 10% will usually be sent to car dealerships.
We've purchased a couple of rental cars from directly from the rental agency and from other dealerships. You can save thousands of dollars buying a car that way. The majority of them are in pretty good condition, but you also need to do your homework before you buy. No matter who you buy a car from, it's always buyer beware!
Carfax can be manipulated. You can have an accident that you don't report and have an independent mechanic work on it. Carfax is useful but not infallible.
G Vogt You Nailed It! I purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma from what I thought was a reputable dealer who did not disclosure major underbody damage. The carfax report I purchased at the dealer did not pick it up. I ran another report post purchase and, after having paid out a ton of money to fix the issues, the subsequent alternate report revealed what carfax had not.
My brother just purchased a 2019 Dodge Durango GT with 15K and saved over 4K. He got it from Hertz in great condition. He also took it to the dealer and had it checked. Everything was ok with the vehicle
Several points: 1) There are many corporate rental fleets where the driver drives 30-45k miles per year. When I was a corporate fleet manager, these would go to the auction after 36 months unless someone in the shop wanted to buy it. 2) Hertz has a 3 day test drive where you can take the car out. At the end of 3 days, you buy the car or pay for the rental. This allows you to take the car and get it inspected by YOUR person and drice the car in all the ways you plan to. IMHO, this sure beats the test drive you get on most used cars at a dealership. In addition, Hertz gives you a one year powertrain warranty in addition to the balance of the OEM warranty. 3) I have bought vehicles from my fleet, from Hertz, and from Avis. I have had no problems with any of them. They are at least as reliable as the ones I purchased from the dealership. 4) There are several ways you can tell a rental. Sometimes, rental car companies require additional equipment (such as a collar around the steering column on certain GM models. Also, look for scratches in the trunk area. 5) The only way to avoid buying a former rentalc ar is to stick to models that sell very few cars to fleets - Honda, Acura, etc.
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix former rental from a dealer lot. It was classified as a lease back return and dealer disclosed it was a rental. It had a year left on the 3 year factory warranty so I figured that took a lot of the risk out of it for me. The factory warranty included roadside assistance too. Dealer showed me their paperwork for repairing the brakes. It ended up being a good car with no issues. Just make sure a former rental still has some factory warranty to protect yourself.
I bought a used 2006 Dodge Durango (Rental) with 25,000 miles in July 2006. It was owned by a Car Rental Co in Tulsa, OK and I bought it from a Dodge dealership in Arkansas. After less than 10,000 miles the differential began to be noisy and I took it back to the dealer because it was still under warranty and I had purchased an extended warranty. Discovered that the differential had been under water and that the car was in New Orleans, LA when the Catrina Hurricane flooded New Orleans. The dealer replaced the differential and completely restored to like new condition. I just wanted to share this story about unknowns when purchasing a rental vehicle.
Ive learned alot in just the few days I have watched your content, so glad I came across it when I did. I'm in the market for a used new Mazda Cx5 and trying to find the best way to purchase as I want to pay cash. Very resourceful. Thanks. Also, you both have such a wonderful relationship and it shows. It's so relieving to see such an articulate young man talk to his dad in such a loving respectful way, even when taking shots at him for silly stuff.
Rented a car from enterprise for a family road trip. The change oil light come on after about a hour of driving. I wasn't going to have it affect my vacation and put another 900 miles on the SUV before returning it.
Currently looking at buying a one year old ex rental, and read all these comments. 50% would never buy one, 50% did buy one and it was a great trouble free car. Not seeing anyone comment that they did buy one and found it to be a nightmare.
I bought a couple cars that started life as rentals they are holding up very well. I did have to replace tires pretty quick they where very cheap quality.
Can you do a video on "pre-purchase inspection" for a used car? How to go about it, when to mention it in the process, how much time you may have to get it done, how to pick a mechanic, what to ask the mechanic, how much it may be. How is this done during corona?
I just went on a 1300 mile car trip in a Charger from Enterprise. As for myself, it was 99% highway driving, and when I did drive it in the city, I didn’t rag the car at all. I would definitely buy a rental. Specifically, comfort 4 cylinders like a Camry or Sonata. Nobody is going around doing burnouts in a Camry.
We’ve have several old rentals in our lives, probably a few we didn’t know about. I usually discovered this by finding some reference in the owner manuals/documentation that came w/ the car. Mechanically, all of them were fine, if not very exciting to drive.
I used to work for Enterprise. You are correct about Rental company used car inventories. Enterprise keeps the nicest inventory for themselves. They send the vast majority to auction.
There's a pretty obvious difference between a rental sports car/luxury car and say a Camry. Nobody drives a Camry any harder than they would if they owned it. At one time you could get a better price at the Hertz dealership than at a regular dealer.
I bought a 2007 Impala in November of 2007 with 12,500 miles on it. During haggling the salesman says "my friend traded it in, would you like to talk with her?"... I said yes & spoke with the lady. Everything seemed good I bought it. A few years later I got a letter in the mail saying my car was in a class action law suit... It was a HERTZ rental car!!! Luckily It has been a great car which I still own & has 205K on it. Original engine & transmission!
In 1995 I bought a used Ford Thunderbird "program car" from the local Ford dealership (clue #1-the moniker). It had approximately 25-26k miles on the odometer (clue #2 - mileage like a lease). The stamped body tag /plate (on the radiator bracket) had HERTZ (clue #3 - the obvious). Later, the ignition key stopped working so I took it to another dealership (I moved away) for a warranty repair. Manager called to complain - they refused to warranty the item after encountering a tamper-resistant anti-theft steel plate shroud/device riveted around the steering column. They said it prevented them from accessing the lock cylinder. I told them to eat it because as far as I knew (and I was 99.99999% sure of it), it was OEM Ford.
I've bought two rentals before. Both gave me no problems at all. Both had lower mileage and the company took the initial depreciation hit. I got great deals on both. I would stay away from higher mileage ones, any "performance" ones (Mustang, Camaro, etc.) because those get beat to shit, and anything Nissan!!
Bought a used car from a dealer in 2007 turned out it was a rental. Bought one 2019 direct from Avis and saved a couple grand. Both were good cars but they also are Toyota's. PS. the dealer told me it was a rental because I asked plus 33,000 miles in a one year old car is a good hint.
I bought my 2015 Toyota Corolla LE, in 2016, also with *33,000* miles on it (directly from Hertz, BTW). Got the car for $14,400 out the door (inclusive of the 9% CA tax), which I believe was a great deal! The car now has approx. 122,000 miles on it and I've had ZERO issues with it. The same exact car would have cost 2 to 3 grand more at a dealer!
How did you like Avis ? I’m debating to go through that rental company to buy a Kia Soul 2019 plus ! Thanks :) any issues so far? Pros or cons any and all advice is appreciated
Hertz rent-to-buy experience: Right before the WSJ article came out, I went online and picked out 2020 Caddy XT5 w/ 8833 miles. No pictures of car. Got car 2 days late due to rental return, with 541 more miles on it. NO price negotiation when mileage is below 1k difference. Car had no spare, but car does have a sealant and air pump, it was also missing the switch on the steering column to adjust the steering wheel. Crazy right? Car was like new otherwise, no damage (had inspected by a body shop, drove well (brakes, alignment, etc.) and all mechanicals/electronics work as expected). Comes with balance of Caddy warranty and also comes with Hertz 12mth drive train warranty. Given that Hertz maintain their cars per spec, and price diff of ~2K less than dealer, worth the 3 day rental to try out. Called Hertz - they gave me an adjusted price due to these missing items and I'm satisfied. Given above, felt comfortable and bought car and feel that I got a good value. Only comes with 1 key too, why, IDK, but this is a known when buying a car from rental company. Key can cost >$100 without programming. Happy with my purchase so far.
CF accident reporting comes mainly from crash reports thru police records which are public information. Provided that the Authority utilizes the VIN in their reports which most do now. Information provided is limited and vague. Title info such as Salvage etc comes from BMVs,again public info. Insurance related info would not be obtainable as it is confidential. If a rental vehicle is involved in a crash which is reported to the authorities with it's VIN, CF will likely show it.
Ray, I agree, you all need to switch back. I'm set in my ways too and hard to adjust to the new look. Keep up the good work, looking forward to the update Saturday.
I just bought a 2 year old service loaner with under 4k miles on it. It looks and drives like new, no problems so far. It was priced lower than other similar used cars I found with more miles. I saw some Hertz cars for sale but they were not priced competitively, certainly they would need to be lower before I would have considered one.
I used to work for the Canadian version of the DMV, and we used a system called IPRES to track ownership and if it's a stolen/write-off etc. We could trace the ownership history, but that system isn't publicly available. I'm sure the United States has something similar that tracks ownership across states, but similar to the Canadian system it isn't publicly accessible.
I bought '86 Chevy Nova (Corolla) from Hertz in the day. Drove it for over ten years. I had no issues or complaints. BTW You guys should switch back to sitting on the other sides.
I worked at a Lexus dealership for many years. They use to get cars from auctions to sell as used cars. Repos , rentals, and trade ins. In the end. You never know what you will get when you buy used period.
we bought a car fro Hertz about 6 months ago, when we went down to pick it up, we found some damage. The dealer said they would take it off the lot and send it to auction, they would not even lower the price. We shopped a lot and they were the best deal by.
I work at Hertz and spend a substantial amount of time ferrying vehicles to Firestone or Midas for oil changes. The rental company is not going to neglect maintenance on a $60K Tahoe or Range Rover.
I am very happy with my 2012 RAV4 I bought from Hertz in 2014. No mechanical issues, just routine maintenance during the 40k miles I have driven it. Hertz declined to show the service records when I asked.
I bought a used car from Budget Car sales in Canada. They didn’t disclose as per the law if the car had repairs of over $3K CDN. The car was used for people to go from the airport to the ski hills. It had roof damage where ski racks had been attached. They also repainted the car because it had rolled onto its side in a snow bank. The repaint wasn’t the factory original colour but a close match.
Its just like with any other used car, its luck of the draw for the most part. Personally I bought a 2006 Dodge Grand caravan that was a retired rental vehicle back in 2007 with 32,000 miles on it and have only had minimal issues with it over the next 13 years, it now has 132,000 miles on the original untouched engine/transmission and I still drive it every day.
It is true that many rental company’s are self insured and don’t report to Carmax, etc. The quality of the work can be as good or as bad as anywhere else. It all depends on who’s doing the work.
I really enjoy watching you guys! Love your honesty and excellent knowledge on cars. I’m a car guy and advocate too, but the one question I have is, when the trade-ins or auction bought cars come in and need reconditioning, does the Sales department pay what customers pay for the work or do they just pay wholesale for the parts and nothing for labor?
Most stores are set up for the sales department to get a slight break from retail. For instance if the customer pay labor rate is $125 an hour, the sales department might be charged $120 an hour. Parts are usually billed at regular retail. Tom, I hope that answers your question. Stay safe and thanks for watching, Ray
Let me tell you about the car I bought in 2010 and still have it. You would never recommend a person buy a car with this history but it has turned out wonderfully. My father in law bought a new Buick Lucerne in 2006 and in 2008 I took him to the airport and drove the car almost 200 miles. I loved the way it rode. So I started looking for one that was wrecked because that's what I do or did------I fixed totaled cars. Never had a car payment in my life. Well, I didn't find a wrecked one but I did found a silver 2008 Lucerne that had been in a minor flash flood. Now normally you run from a flood car but this one you could see the water line on the cardboard license plates the dealer had while on his lot. Yes, it was a rental bought by a Buick dealer and his used car lot got 13 inches of water in his lot. I saw no signs the water entered the interior. I checked it over pretty good and couldn't believe they would "total" this car as flood damaged but I guess since the wheels sat in a foot of water for several hours the dealer's insurance company designated all the cars in the lot as flood damaged. It was up for auction on................ebay. Another great place to buy a car! The car had the motor I wanted (3800) and had 28,000 miles. I checked all the fluids, put it up on a rack and I couldn't find anything wrong with it so I became the high bidder at $9000 and drove it home to MI from Valdosta, GA. So, I bought a car that was previously a rental and had a salvage flood damaged title. It now has 145,000 miles and has been trouble free. I do keep up with maintenance religiously but the car has been great. I recently was at a crossroads--------do I put new tires on it or sell it? After talking with my wife we put four new Michelin's on it. Call us crazy but we like the car so we are keeping it. Still looks good and runs excellent. I can tell you guys like your Eurotrash. Why, I don't know. Expensive to purchase and if you don't trade it off in 2 years very expensive to fix. Enjoy the prestige of driving that stuff. I'll wave to you at the dealership on my way to the beach. Actually, I am no fan of domestic cars either. I'd rather own a Japanese or Korean car. And your Volvo!!!!! Chinese piece of crap. A sorry ending to what used to be a great car company that built cars like tanks. My son lives there in the Northeast and, of course he had to have a Mercedes and she an Audi. Oh, they tell everyone they just love the cars but I have heard both of them lament about the cost of not only repairs but routine maintenance. Looking cool and driving a "I made in life" car comes with a cost. One that I will pass on. Give me my Ram pickup and her Buick Lucerne. Oh, if you want to know, we will be buying a Toyota when the Lucerne is retired.
I would love to know the answer to your question. High unemployment, working at home, thousands of rentals added to the used car market, staying @ home for months, family’s not taking vacations, schools closed, and used car sales hotter then ever? Why?
Okay, just subscribed. I've been watching your videos for a little while and like the father /son interaction you guys have. I enjoy the dad jokes (I'm in my early 50's and accused by my kids for doing dad jokes) and get a similar reaction like you did from your son. What can I say, different generation I guess. As far as the re-condition report, I don't know that I would trust it. Not saying all dealerships would do this but, it could be fake to inflate the price of the used car. Lastly, I did buy a car from Hertz a little over a year ago. It's been good and would consider buying again in the future. Thanks for the video and keep the videos coming. :o)
James thanks for the kind words and as far as the dad jokes, what can I say, that is what makes being a dad so rewarding and so much fun. Thanks for subscribing. Stay safe, Ray
Ray I must be down right lucky. In 1999 my wife wanted to trade cars and so we took her 1985 Nissan Maxima to the Toyota Dealer and she found a 1996 Toyota Avalon XLS that she liked and it had 27,000 miles on it and I looked it over and from what I could tell it was in good condition. The test drive went well so we bought it. About six months after we bought it I was doing an oil change and fluid check, Air Filter and the usual routine maintenance that I do myself. In the paperwork that was in the glove box I found a paper that told me that it had been a Hertz leased car. My wife likes the car to this day even though she retired from the work force in 1986 so she does not drive much. Today the Avalon has 81,000 actual miles and the Michelin tires have less than 30,000 miles on them but because of the age of the tires the Discount Tire Store where we bought them told me about a year ago that because of the age of the tires they could no longer rotate them so I will drive them until they give up or I get 50,000 plus miles on them. We have not had a car payment on this Toyota since 2002 and the few times that I have had to take it in the maintenance cost average less than $1,500.00 every 5 years. The insurance company will only give us liability because they said it is not worth enough to warrant full coverage. The car has been garage kept since we bought it and still looks great and drives like a dream. I drive it once a week just to keep the fluid moving and to keep the battery charged. My wife is thinking about getting herself another car but she has only driven her car herself 3 times in the past 2 years. If and when she wants to go anywhere I drive and we go in my Toyota 4 Runner. I am not sure if she is really going to trade it off or not but I don't see a need to do so knowing she will only drive her self once or twice a year if she absolutely has to. I do enjoy your channel and I have learned a lot about the car business from you and your son. Just in case you are curious my 2007 4 Runner Limited has almost 120,000 miles on it. I bought it new after I retired in 2006.
I bought a car from a dealer and found out when I got home a “Budget rent a car” paper work under the front seat. It was a great car, no problems but I wish I knew.
Same. After purchasing from a Toyota dealer I would have thought it would have fresh filters oil change. NOpe took it in for oil change and the air filter was so dirty and full of leaves!! Made me mad.
I purchased a vehicle from Enterprise. It had moderate miles, about 35k, was in excellent condition, and was very happy with it. I'd recommend keeping them in mind when used car shopping.
We have owned two Ex rental cars and both were excellent cars. Bought direct from Avis and Hertz. They were fine! I used to rent a lot of cars and I never abused one. Car Faxes are not the Bible and they can queer the sale of an otherwise nice car. Not all service records are posted and not all accidents are noted.
Enjoy your videos. I bought a 2016 Camry from Hertz and I thought it was a great deal, thousands less than I would have paid at a dealership. I got a pre purchase inspection from a mechanic I trust which checked out. While it was a little higher mileage when I bought it, it was really in good shape and it was a toyota so I wasn't too worried about it. Unfortunately about a year later I moved overseas and had to sell the car quick. While I lost money on the sale, I had several toyota dealerships that wanted it to flip as a certified used model. I eventually settled on a local dealer with the highest bid (an urban dealership focused on certified used toyotas). I'm confident if I had kept the car it would have been a great car for many years.
Jerry before i think the car rental company have some sort of sticker etc. However few years back they already remove all sort of that. For the security of the renter. Against car break in, crime.
There is a web site for most manufacturer's that you can put in a VIN number and get a copy of the new car sticker. It will show it was sold to a rental car company direct. It will show you the suggested MSRP also. Again was told this about 5 years ago by a friend and I did look it up on line and tried it. It did show rental company on sticker. There is no cost for looking this up .
1. Can one differentiate between a rental, company car, or a dealer's service loaner or any other "program" car based on verbiage used on a VIN report? 2. Words said in the video, but maybe overlooked: get an independent pre-purchase inspection no matter who purchased from! 3. Service on rentals may NOT always be regular or on-time; because if the car is needed, its maintenance will be put off. Money spent on maintenance and repair will be the least possible. 4. There is probably some kind of rule to position the Interviewee in a way that they are always facing their camera!
Would love to see a video about buying CONCEPT vehicles. I know that sometimes these vehicles are sold so if you can touch on this subject, I would love to know.
I've only been around a few concept cars, but most of them were not legal to be sold to private individuals. At least in the USA, there are federal rules regarding all sorts of things, including replacement parts. Concept cars are often one-offs, so no spare parts. I had the fortune of driving a Rolls Royce concept car, one of the Ghost variants. It rode and drove fine, with the interior properly finished. Yet it's fate was the scrapyard as it wasn't a certified production car. Quite sad for such a lovely car.
I bought a car from Enterprise mainly for two reasons. One less BS then dealers and second no haggling over price. I was and am very pleased. Have had the car for six years so far and it's working perfectly.
Great Channel enjoy the knowledge and the interaction with you both. My best deal was on a non titled 2001 Nissan Maxima manager's car with 3000 miles on it, I got $4K off the price. I noticed the other episodes you had a Tusuno, Cartier but what was the name of the skeleton watch in this episode?
You too make me laugh. Thank you. Gracias. I put 159,000 miles on a BMW X3 and I don’t sell anything. :) I drove from the Poconos PA to NYC every day for three years to go to work. Never again.
I got one of those rental cars once that was repaired poorly in house. After I had it for a few weeks, I realized that it had been T-boned. Not one of my better purchases. I would not do that again.
I bought a 1988 Buick Regal Coupe from Avis in 1989. Everybody said I was nuts to save $6500 over the same model new from the Buick dealer, because a rental car is junk. They were right. I only drove the car for 18 years, did very little to it and only sold it because I wanted a new car!
I’m not sure if it’s still true, but a cousin worked at Enterpise. He said they sold cars that had been in accidents to auction. Clean cars they sold themselves. Usually the repairs done to their cars are very poor quality.
Costco, TrueCar and others all work the same way. You are not purchasing through Costco at all. It is only a dealer referral service. In other words, a dealer will pay Costco a fee for your contact information. That is Costco’s only involvement. You should be able to negotiate at least as good of deal if not better on your own.
I'm a former F&I guy and a watch fan. I collect SEIKO divers and G-Shocks! Wouldn't mind going back into the F&I, but I left many years ago and they don't want us old guys anymore.
Mark, the business seems to much more of a young mans game today, you are right they are really not interested in us old guys. I have always had an affinity for watches, the only highline ones that I have were either given to me from the manufacturer for having won a sales contest or from the Penske Organization when our Acura store attained a profit goal for the year. Otherwise they are all relatively inexpensive. Stay safe, Ray
I bought a one year old black 4 Runner from Hertz. I bought it on a rainy, overcast day. After I saw it in the sunlight, I saw the massive micro marring damage in the paint from the automated car washes. This required hours of work to correct. The vehicle has also had fender damage not disclosed (because they had tried to repair). I cannot advise buying a rental for this reason.
Ray Emanuel haha I rented a 5 speed Nissan 300Z on my honeymoon in Maui in 1986 and “learned” on that car ! Crunched gears for a bit ! I’m the exact reason I would never buy a used car rental vehicle ! Hey I was 22 years old and learned on it, but got the hang of it pretty quickly.
Am I the only one who actually drives more carefully in the rental car because I'm more careful with other people's stuff?
i'm afraid of the $400 damage charge
Yes, you weirdo.
Yes, you are
I worked at a large dealership in Texas for around 6 years and I can tell you from the behind the curtain almost 100% of our certified pre-owned cars we're brought in from rental car companies. So if you're buying a certified pre-owned chances are you're buying a rental car.
In your opinion are the certified by a dealer better cars than from the rental company direct?
@@erics3527 good question.
Does the dealer do any maintenance or repair before posting them as CPO ?
I worked for one of the rental car outfits and can tell you that Ray is exactly right; the better conditioned cars are sold directly to the public on the rental car owned lots and the not so great cars are sent to the auction. Toyota's always have rug issues(worn thru) as Toyota never supplied mats. Kia and Hyundai interiors stained like crazy and we could never get them clean. Stay away from the luxury/high end SUV's as they were driven by idiots who would never be able to afford one in the real world. And drove them like they were pissed about that. They most always came back trashed and many times with damage. And forget mini-vans; those came back in looking like they were used as a garbage truck. Disgusting. As far as service records, yes they were tracked in the computer system and if the car was overdue on service, we were unable to rent it out until it had been serviced. Damage and crashes will not appear on CarFax as we were self-insured so no reporting was done. Every car put up for sale has had some damage done to it, might be minor paint or dents/panel replacements. Cars with super low mileage (generally cars were held in the fleet for around 40,000 miles) like 25,000 probably had mechanical issues and are dumped early.
Carl thank you for your insights, I am sure that our audience is as appreciative as I am . Stay safe, Ray
This is helpful, was thinking of buying a low mileage car from a rental used car lot.I am now second guessing this. Thanks
Thank you for the information Carl! Much appreciated.
I spoke to a mechanic about purchasing a used 2017 Subaru with 11,000 miles. He said, be very concerned about really low mileage cars, probably been sitting ...cars need to be driven....probably mechanical issues...etc.
This probably just saved me a bunch of headache. Thank you!!!
I bought a car at a dealer that had been a rental car. I've had it for 6 years now and never had one single issue until last month I needed a 1200 repair, it has 212,000 miles and was a Hyundai Genisis. But other than that I've had zero issues. But it's about time to buy a new one which is why I"m here :)
My parents bought a 2005 Dodge Neon from Enterprise back in 2007, then signed it over to me before my father died. I still have it and have had very little trouble with it.
Because nobody rents dodge neon so your parents were smart to buy that car from them and not a camaro
8avexp LUCKY YOU!!!! I worked 4 NATIONAL CAR RENTAL.... WE USED DOG THOSE CAR OUT....
I bought a 08 Impala from Enterprise in 2010, still have it runs good.
@@tobykenobe My dad bought a 2007 Nissan Sentra like 5 years ago from Enterprise or something. Now he has a 2012 toyota camry.
I use to work for Hetz. We did not mess around when it came to service and maintenance on our cars. Cars would get regular oil changes . And if it needed tires or anything, that was taken care of to. I think buying a rental car is safe. The only ones I would stay away from are the high performance cars or anything with a hemi. People would generally dog those type of cars out. Yea we would service them but I'd be very careful about buying ones like that
Well I was told they use the cheapest oil in rentals!
I worked for Hertz and Enterprise, and you asked what cars go to a car lot versus what cars go to the actual Hertz or Avis lot. The rule of thumb for Enterprise is the top 10% of the cars goes to company lot. They are selling the cars to there customer base so they only sell the good ones. Also rental car maintenance on cars are very good. For both Hertz and Enterprise cars have to have oil changes done when they are due or the system will not allow you to rent the vehicle. Hertz has a rent to own program where you can rent the vehicle you want to buy for 3 days and then buy it after the 3 days. It’s better than a 20 minute test drive you get at dealerships. Also cars that are not the top 10% will usually be sent to car dealerships.
Mark thanks so much for your insights, it was very kind of you to share your knowledge with our audience. Stay safe, Ray
I like that Ray doesn't look at the camera. It's more natural--like we're watching a conversation.
I bought a year old 40k miles mazda 6, drove it for 5 years with zero problem and after that end up leasing 8 mazdas for me and my dad. Love MAZDA :)
We've purchased a couple of rental cars from directly from the rental agency and from other dealerships. You can save thousands of dollars buying a car that way. The majority of them are in pretty good condition, but you also need to do your homework before you buy. No matter who you buy a car from, it's always buyer beware!
Carfax can be manipulated. You can have an accident that you don't report and have an independent mechanic work on it. Carfax is useful but not infallible.
G Vogt You Nailed It! I purchased a 2018 Toyota Tacoma from what I thought was a reputable dealer who did not disclosure major underbody damage. The carfax report I purchased at the dealer did not pick it up. I ran another report post purchase and, after having paid out a ton of money to fix the issues, the subsequent alternate report revealed what carfax had not.
My brother just purchased a 2019 Dodge Durango GT with 15K and saved over 4K. He got it from Hertz in great condition. He also took it to the dealer and had it checked. Everything was ok with the vehicle
Several points:
1) There are many corporate rental fleets where the driver drives 30-45k miles per year. When I was a corporate fleet manager, these would go to the auction after 36 months unless someone in the shop wanted to buy it.
2) Hertz has a 3 day test drive where you can take the car out. At the end of 3 days, you buy the car or pay for the rental. This allows you to take the car and get it inspected by YOUR person and drice the car in all the ways you plan to. IMHO, this sure beats the test drive you get on most used cars at a dealership. In addition, Hertz gives you a one year powertrain warranty in addition to the balance of the OEM warranty.
3) I have bought vehicles from my fleet, from Hertz, and from Avis. I have had no problems with any of them. They are at least as reliable as the ones I purchased from the dealership.
4) There are several ways you can tell a rental. Sometimes, rental car companies require additional equipment (such as a collar around the steering column on certain GM models. Also, look for scratches in the trunk area.
5) The only way to avoid buying a former rentalc ar is to stick to models that sell very few cars to fleets - Honda, Acura, etc.
Interesting .because when i bought a rental it definitely had scratches on trunk
I bought a 2008 Grand Prix former rental from a dealer lot. It was classified as a lease back return and dealer disclosed it was a rental. It had a year left on the 3 year factory warranty so I figured that took a lot of the risk out of it for me. The factory warranty included roadside assistance too. Dealer showed me their paperwork for repairing the brakes. It ended up being a good car with no issues. Just make sure a former rental still has some factory warranty to protect yourself.
I bought a used 2006 Dodge Durango (Rental) with 25,000 miles in July 2006. It was owned by a Car Rental Co in Tulsa, OK and I bought it from a Dodge dealership in Arkansas. After less than 10,000 miles the differential began to be noisy and I took it back to the dealer because it was still under warranty and I had purchased an extended warranty. Discovered that the differential had been under water and that the car was in New Orleans, LA when the Catrina Hurricane flooded New Orleans. The dealer replaced the differential and completely restored to like new condition. I just wanted to share this story about unknowns when purchasing a rental vehicle.
Good info, thanks. Have you guys ever done a video on what dealerships do with lease return units?
Ive learned alot in just the few days I have watched your content, so glad I came across it when I did. I'm in the market for a used new Mazda Cx5 and trying to find the best way to purchase as I want to pay cash. Very resourceful. Thanks. Also, you both have such a wonderful relationship and it shows. It's so relieving to see such an articulate young man talk to his dad in such a loving respectful way, even when taking shots at him for silly stuff.
You guys are awesome!!! You give out such great info and I love how entertaining you guys are!
Rented a car from enterprise for a family road trip. The change oil light come on after about a hour of driving. I wasn't going to have it affect my vacation and put another 900 miles on the SUV before returning it.
Cool information and watch... Thank you!
You guys are just great. I always feel better after listening. Great informative information
Currently looking at buying a one year old ex rental, and read all these comments. 50% would never buy one, 50% did buy one and it was a great trouble free car. Not seeing anyone comment that they did buy one and found it to be a nightmare.
I bought a couple cars that started life as rentals they are holding up very well. I did have to replace tires pretty quick they where very cheap quality.
Can you do a video on "pre-purchase inspection" for a used car? How to go about it, when to mention it in the process, how much time you may have to get it done, how to pick a mechanic, what to ask the mechanic, how much it may be. How is this done during corona?
I just went on a 1300 mile car trip in a Charger from Enterprise. As for myself, it was 99% highway driving, and when I did drive it in the city, I didn’t rag the car at all. I would definitely buy a rental. Specifically, comfort 4 cylinders like a Camry or Sonata. Nobody is going around doing burnouts in a Camry.
We’ve have several old rentals in our lives, probably a few we didn’t know about. I usually discovered this by finding some reference in the owner manuals/documentation that came w/ the car. Mechanically, all of them were fine, if not very exciting to drive.
I used to work for Enterprise. You are correct about Rental company used car inventories. Enterprise keeps the nicest inventory for themselves. They send the vast majority to auction.
I’m the same as you. No matter who’s driving the car - you always treat it as if it’s your own…
In Canada there had to be full disclosure on rental cars that are being sold. You know up front that you are looking at a rental.
I bought a Kia Soul from Enterprise during the shortage in 2021, no problems, low mileage, 8000 miles. No accidents involved. So far, so good.
Hi how car insurance companies work when purchasing rental car??
There's a pretty obvious difference between a rental sports car/luxury car and say a Camry. Nobody drives a Camry any harder than they would if they owned it. At one time you could get a better price at the Hertz dealership than at a regular dealer.
Great video! I was looking at a Hertz car a month ago. This helped a lot. Keep up the good work!
Have you seen any cars that you liked?
Great content and like the watch info.
I already bought an XC90 Volvo, but I keep watching your videos. :)
Keep up the good work.
Is it worth the difference over an XC60?
I just can't stop watching your guy's videos!
Classic Duo
The dad is such a smart ass in this video. The son is very patient
That usually means he’s a good father all fathers are assholes it’s just life
He sounds condescending and it wastes a lot of time. Maybe there is some good info but I don't have the patience to listen.
I bought a 2007 Impala in November of 2007 with 12,500 miles on it. During haggling the salesman says "my friend traded it in, would you like to talk with her?"... I said yes & spoke with the lady. Everything seemed good I bought it. A few years later I got a letter in the mail saying my car was in a class action law suit... It was a HERTZ rental car!!! Luckily It has been a great car which I still own & has 205K on it. Original engine & transmission!
In 1995 I bought a used Ford Thunderbird "program car" from the local Ford dealership (clue #1-the moniker). It had approximately 25-26k miles on the odometer (clue #2 - mileage like a lease). The stamped body tag /plate (on the radiator bracket) had HERTZ (clue #3 - the obvious). Later, the ignition key stopped working so I took it to another dealership (I moved away) for a warranty repair. Manager called to complain - they refused to warranty the item after encountering a tamper-resistant anti-theft steel plate shroud/device riveted around the steering column. They said it prevented them from accessing the lock cylinder. I told them to eat it because as far as I knew (and I was 99.99999% sure of it), it was OEM Ford.
Alot of car lots are buying salvaged vehicles from salvage auctions like Copart and IAA and reselling them.
New to this channel" I love it!
Great complement you two, and insightful
Great video 🙋🏻♀️❤️Thank you 🙋🏻♀️😍
Great info...oh love your watch!
I've bought two rentals before. Both gave me no problems at all. Both had lower mileage and the company took the initial depreciation hit. I got great deals on both. I would stay away from higher mileage ones, any "performance" ones (Mustang, Camaro, etc.) because those get beat to shit, and anything Nissan!!
Even Infinti?
What about Lexus
Bought a used car from a dealer in 2007 turned out it was a rental. Bought one 2019 direct from Avis and saved a couple grand. Both were good cars but they also are Toyota's. PS. the dealer told me it was a rental because I asked plus 33,000 miles in a one year old car is a good hint.
I bought my 2015 Toyota Corolla LE, in 2016, also with *33,000* miles on it (directly from Hertz, BTW). Got the car for $14,400 out the door (inclusive of the 9% CA tax), which I believe was a great deal! The car now has approx. 122,000 miles on it and I've had ZERO issues with it. The same exact car would have cost 2 to 3 grand more at a dealer!
How did you like Avis ? I’m debating to go through that rental company to buy a Kia Soul 2019 plus ! Thanks :) any issues so far? Pros or cons any and all advice is appreciated
I bought a 2020 330i with 5k miles from Hertz yesterday for 32.4k (34k OTD). PPI and everything was clean.
Great job! Stay safe, Ray
Hertz rent-to-buy experience: Right before the WSJ article came out, I went online and picked out 2020 Caddy XT5 w/ 8833 miles. No pictures of car. Got car 2 days late due to rental return, with 541 more miles on it. NO price negotiation when mileage is below 1k difference. Car had no spare, but car does have a sealant and air pump, it was also missing the switch on the steering column to adjust the steering wheel. Crazy right? Car was like new otherwise, no damage (had inspected by a body shop, drove well (brakes, alignment, etc.) and all mechanicals/electronics work as expected). Comes with balance of Caddy warranty and also comes with Hertz 12mth drive train warranty. Given that Hertz maintain their cars per spec, and price diff of ~2K less than dealer, worth the 3 day rental to try out. Called Hertz - they gave me an adjusted price due to these missing items and I'm satisfied. Given above, felt comfortable and bought car and feel that I got a good value. Only comes with 1 key too, why, IDK, but this is a known when buying a car from rental company. Key can cost >$100 without programming. Happy with my purchase so far.
Sounds like you did good Ian. I hope the Caddy serves you well for many years to come. Stay safe, Ray
Rental companies do accident repair in-house so any accident/damage/repair will not show up on a car fax.
Yet another reason to never buy one
I understood rental companies are self insured therefore no reporting to Carfax.
CF accident reporting comes mainly from crash reports thru police records which are public information. Provided that the Authority utilizes the VIN in their reports which most do now. Information provided is limited and vague. Title info such as Salvage etc comes from BMVs,again public info. Insurance related info would not be obtainable as it is confidential. If a rental vehicle is involved in a crash which is reported to the authorities with it's VIN, CF will likely show it.
How about a session on how to read a car fax report?
Ray, I agree, you all need to switch back. I'm set in my ways too and hard to adjust to the new look. Keep up the good work, looking forward to the update Saturday.
I just bought a 2 year old service loaner with under 4k miles on it. It looks and drives like new, no problems so far. It was priced lower than other similar used cars I found with more miles. I saw some Hertz cars for sale but they were not priced competitively, certainly they would need to be lower before I would have considered one.
Thanks for letting us know what watch that is! I was wondering the whole video.
I used to work for the Canadian version of the DMV, and we used a system called IPRES to track ownership and if it's a stolen/write-off etc. We could trace the ownership history, but that system isn't publicly available. I'm sure the United States has something similar that tracks ownership across states, but similar to the Canadian system it isn't publicly accessible.
I bought '86 Chevy Nova (Corolla) from Hertz in the day. Drove it for over ten years. I had no issues or complaints. BTW You guys should switch back to sitting on the other sides.
Justin Wright It was excellent I remember because it was a Toyota.
I worked at a Lexus dealership for many years. They use to get cars from auctions to sell as used cars. Repos , rentals, and trade ins. In the end. You never know what you will get when you buy used period.
we bought a car fro Hertz about 6 months ago, when we went down to pick it up, we found some damage. The dealer said they would take it off the lot and send it to auction, they would not even lower the price. We shopped a lot and they were the best deal by.
I know if you are on Carvana, you can see if the car was sold to a car rental company by looking at the original window sticker.
I work at Hertz and spend a substantial amount of time ferrying vehicles to Firestone or Midas for oil changes. The rental company is not going to neglect maintenance on a $60K Tahoe or Range Rover.
I’m looking to buy 2020 chevy suburban 44k miles ? It’s been rent a car ... good to buy ? I’m skeptical
@@AutomotiveDysfunction did you end up buying it?
@@Dani-xg6mz no bro .. I did buy it … but history didn’t show that was rent a car
I am very happy with my 2012 RAV4 I bought from Hertz in 2014. No mechanical issues, just routine maintenance during the 40k miles I have driven it. Hertz declined to show the service records when I asked.
Great video but it earned the “like” when I heard about Ray’s 3 addictions in life. Quality stuff right there.
I bought a used car from Budget Car sales in Canada. They didn’t disclose as per the law if the car had repairs of over $3K CDN. The car was used for people to go from the airport to the ski hills. It had roof damage where ski racks had been attached. They also repainted the car because it had rolled onto its side in a snow bank. The repaint wasn’t the factory original colour but a close match.
Its just like with any other used car, its luck of the draw for the most part. Personally I bought a 2006 Dodge Grand caravan that was a retired rental vehicle back in 2007 with 32,000 miles on it and have only had minimal issues with it over the next 13 years, it now has 132,000 miles on the original untouched engine/transmission and I still drive it every day.
I recently read that since they are self insured they do not report to Carfax and as you said the quality of the work is often substandard.
It is true that many rental company’s are self insured and don’t report to Carmax, etc.
The quality of the work can be as good or as bad as anywhere else. It all depends on who’s doing the work.
The rental agencies where I live use the local body shops in town.
I currently drive a rental that I can tell was in an accident. Nothing but problems with it, and Carfax was clean.
I really enjoy watching you guys! Love your honesty and excellent knowledge on cars. I’m a car guy and advocate too, but the one question I have is, when the trade-ins or auction bought cars come in and need reconditioning, does the Sales department pay what customers pay for the work or do they just pay wholesale for the parts and nothing for labor?
Most stores are set up for the sales department to get a slight break from retail. For instance if the customer pay labor rate is $125 an hour, the sales department might be charged $120 an hour. Parts are usually billed at regular retail. Tom, I hope that answers your question. Stay safe and thanks for watching, Ray
Let me tell you about the car I bought in 2010 and still have it. You would never recommend a person buy a car with this history but it has turned out wonderfully. My father in law bought a new Buick Lucerne in 2006 and in 2008 I took him to the airport and drove the car almost 200 miles. I loved the way it rode. So I started looking for one that was wrecked because that's what I do or did------I fixed totaled cars. Never had a car payment in my life. Well, I didn't find a wrecked one but I did found a silver 2008 Lucerne that had been in a minor flash flood. Now normally you run from a flood car but this one you could see the water line on the cardboard license plates the dealer had while on his lot. Yes, it was a rental bought by a Buick dealer and his used car lot got 13 inches of water in his lot. I saw no signs the water entered the interior. I checked it over pretty good and couldn't believe they would "total" this car as flood damaged but I guess since the wheels sat in a foot of water for several hours the dealer's insurance company designated all the cars in the lot as flood damaged. It was up for auction on................ebay. Another great place to buy a car! The car had the motor I wanted (3800) and had 28,000 miles. I checked all the fluids, put it up on a rack and I couldn't find anything wrong with it so I became the high bidder at $9000 and drove it home to MI from Valdosta, GA. So, I bought a car that was previously a rental and had a salvage flood damaged title. It now has 145,000 miles and has been trouble free. I do keep up with maintenance religiously but the car has been great. I recently was at a crossroads--------do I put new tires on it or sell it? After talking with my wife we put four new Michelin's on it. Call us crazy but we like the car so we are keeping it. Still looks good and runs excellent. I can tell you guys like your Eurotrash. Why, I don't know. Expensive to purchase and if you don't trade it off in 2 years very expensive to fix. Enjoy the prestige of driving that stuff. I'll wave to you at the dealership on my way to the beach. Actually, I am no fan of domestic cars either. I'd rather own a Japanese or Korean car. And your Volvo!!!!! Chinese piece of crap. A sorry ending to what used to be a great car company that built cars like tanks. My son lives there in the Northeast and, of course he had to have a Mercedes and she an Audi. Oh, they tell everyone they just love the cars but I have heard both of them lament about the cost of not only repairs but routine maintenance. Looking cool and driving a "I made in life" car comes with a cost. One that I will pass on. Give me my Ram pickup and her Buick Lucerne. Oh, if you want to know, we will be buying a Toyota when the Lucerne is retired.
So why are used car prices crazy high right now?
I would love to know the answer to your question. High unemployment, working at home, thousands of rentals added to the used car market, staying @ home for months, family’s not taking vacations, schools closed, and used car sales hotter then ever? Why?
I have had three rental cars, two from Hertz and one from Avis. They were all reliable.
Okay, just subscribed. I've been watching your videos for a little while and like the father /son interaction you guys have. I enjoy the dad jokes (I'm in my early 50's and accused by my kids for doing dad jokes) and get a similar reaction like you did from your son. What can I say, different generation I guess. As far as the re-condition report, I don't know that I would trust it. Not saying all dealerships would do this but, it could be fake to inflate the price of the used car. Lastly, I did buy a car from Hertz a little over a year ago. It's been good and would consider buying again in the future. Thanks for the video and keep the videos coming. :o)
James thanks for the kind words and as far as the dad jokes, what can I say, that is what makes being a dad so rewarding and so much fun. Thanks for subscribing. Stay safe, Ray
Ray I must be down right lucky. In 1999 my wife wanted to trade cars and so we took her 1985 Nissan Maxima to the Toyota Dealer and she found a 1996 Toyota Avalon XLS that she liked and it had 27,000 miles on it and I looked it over and from what I could tell it was in good condition. The test drive went well so we bought it. About six months after we bought it I was doing an oil change and fluid check, Air Filter and the usual routine maintenance that I do myself. In the paperwork that was in the glove box I found a paper that told me that it had been a Hertz leased car. My wife likes the car to this day even though she retired from the work force in 1986 so she does not drive much. Today the Avalon has 81,000 actual miles and the Michelin tires have less than 30,000 miles on them but because of the age of the tires the Discount Tire Store where we bought them told me about a year ago that because of the age of the tires they could no longer rotate them so I will drive them until they give up or I get 50,000 plus miles on them. We have not had a car payment on this Toyota since 2002 and the few times that I have had to take it in the maintenance cost average less than $1,500.00 every 5 years. The insurance company will only give us liability because they said it is not worth enough to warrant full coverage. The car has been garage kept since we bought it and still looks great and drives like a dream. I drive it once a week just to keep the fluid moving and to keep the battery charged. My wife is thinking about getting herself another car but she has only driven her car herself 3 times in the past 2 years. If and when she wants to go anywhere I drive and we go in my Toyota 4 Runner. I am not sure if she is really going to trade it off or not but I don't see a need to do so knowing she will only drive her self once or twice a year if she absolutely has to. I do enjoy your channel and I have learned a lot about the car business from you and your son. Just in case you are curious my 2007 4 Runner Limited has almost 120,000 miles on it. I bought it new after I retired in 2006.
I bought a car from a dealer and found out when I got home a “Budget rent a car” paper work under the front seat. It was a great car, no problems but I wish I knew.
Same
Even a broken watch gives correct time twice a day. JK.
Same. After purchasing from a Toyota dealer I would have thought it would have fresh filters oil change. NOpe took it in for oil change and the air filter was so dirty and full of leaves!! Made me mad.
Just look at a carfax report
I purchased a vehicle from Enterprise. It had moderate miles, about 35k, was in excellent condition, and was very happy with it. I'd recommend keeping them in mind when used car shopping.
Still got it?
@@Markeith199E Nope. Gave it to my daughter, and she has since traded it in.
@@jeffwhiting4237 What’s she driving now?
We have owned two Ex rental cars and both were excellent cars. Bought direct from Avis and Hertz. They were fine! I used to rent a lot of cars and I never abused one. Car Faxes are not the Bible and they can queer the sale of an otherwise nice car. Not
all service records are posted and not all accidents are noted.
Would a person purchasing a rental get a better deal purchasing directly from the rental place, or purchasing a rental from a dealership?
OMG this show gives me that Car Talk on NPR vibe. Great work!
I miss that show!
@@purrfectstormz8225 me too. I love their Boston accents. The hosts were so smart and comical.
Enjoy your videos. I bought a 2016 Camry from Hertz and I thought it was a great deal, thousands less than I would have paid at a dealership. I got a pre purchase inspection from a mechanic I trust which checked out. While it was a little higher mileage when I bought it, it was really in good shape and it was a toyota so I wasn't too worried about it. Unfortunately about a year later I moved overseas and had to sell the car quick. While I lost money on the sale, I had several toyota dealerships that wanted it to flip as a certified used model. I eventually settled on a local dealer with the highest bid (an urban dealership focused on certified used toyotas). I'm confident if I had kept the car it would have been a great car for many years.
Wouldnt there be a decal or some kind of sticker usually on the car somewhere (door jamb, window) showing the rental company?
Jerry before i think the car rental company have some sort of sticker etc. However few years back they already remove all sort of that. For the security of the renter. Against car break in, crime.
j t true. They stopped that many years ago. Maybe 1990’s
Rarely, the only thing i look for now is the small remnants of the "No Smoking" sticker.
There were car rental stickers on my 2016 VW....
I ran 3 ex rentals from 14000 miles ( uk rental expiry ) to over 120000 miles. 2 of the cars were really reliable one was junk. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
Great information
Thoughts on negotiating a leftover new 2018 f-150.
I was told by a friend that was an exec at Avis that they sell the best cars via their network and the rest are sold at suctions.
Robert that is certainly what I would do if I was in charge of disposing of the cars and it makes complete sense. Stay safe, Ray
There is a web site for most manufacturer's that you can put in a VIN number and get a copy of the new car sticker. It will show it was sold to a rental car company direct. It will show you the suggested MSRP also. Again was told this about 5 years ago by a friend and I did look it up on line and tried it. It did show rental company on sticker. There is no cost for looking this up .
Found this interesting, I found a prior rental as per carfax, the dealership has it listed as a CPO, would you recommend that as a purchase?
1. Can one differentiate between a rental, company car, or a dealer's service loaner or any other "program" car based on verbiage used on a VIN report?
2. Words said in the video, but maybe overlooked: get an independent pre-purchase inspection no matter who purchased from!
3. Service on rentals may NOT always be regular or on-time; because if the car is needed, its maintenance will be put off. Money spent on maintenance and repair will be the least possible.
4. There is probably some kind of rule to position the Interviewee in a way that they are always facing their camera!
Would love to see a video about buying CONCEPT vehicles. I know that sometimes these vehicles are sold so if you can touch on this subject, I would love to know.
I've only been around a few concept cars, but most of them were not legal to be sold to private individuals. At least in the USA, there are federal rules regarding all sorts of things, including replacement parts. Concept cars are often one-offs, so no spare parts.
I had the fortune of driving a Rolls Royce concept car, one of the Ghost variants. It rode and drove fine, with the interior properly finished. Yet it's fate was the scrapyard as it wasn't a certified production car. Quite sad for such a lovely car.
what are they gonna do with them they have to sell them when they’re done
I bought a car from Enterprise mainly for two reasons. One less BS then dealers and second no haggling over price. I was and am very pleased. Have had the car for six years so far and it's working perfectly.
Really enjoy the content, great work 👍
Great Channel enjoy the knowledge and the interaction with you both. My best deal was on a non titled 2001 Nissan Maxima manager's car with 3000 miles on it, I got $4K off the price. I noticed the other episodes you had a Tusuno, Cartier but what was the name of the skeleton watch in this episode?
Wayne it is a Ciga Design. They make a couple of interesting watches in my opinion. Stay safe and thanks for watching, Ray
You too make me laugh. Thank you. Gracias. I put 159,000 miles on a BMW X3 and I don’t sell anything. :)
I drove from the Poconos PA to NYC every day for three years to go to work. Never again.
I got one of those rental cars once that was repaired poorly in house. After I had it for a few weeks, I realized that it had been T-boned. Not one of my better purchases. I would not do that again.
I like the questions being segmented to the video in the timeline.
This video could have been 5 minutes. Some useful information sprinkled in long winded responses
Yes first time I have seen that.
Definitely.
I bought a 1988 Buick Regal Coupe from Avis in 1989. Everybody said I was nuts to save $6500 over the same model new from the Buick dealer, because a rental car is junk. They were right. I only drove the car for 18 years, did very little to it and only sold it because I wanted a new car!
Are you being sarcastic?
@@lifegoeson1007 DUH!
@@poppyatcs4529 alright 😒
I’m not sure if it’s still true, but a cousin worked at Enterpise. He said they sold cars that had been in accidents to auction. Clean cars they sold themselves. Usually the repairs done to their cars are very poor quality.
Subscribed and thumbs up just for the nice father and son dynamic.
Thinking of buying an almost brand new rental mileage only less than 3k ! Should I buy it
How do programs like Costco's Auto Buying Program work and are they a good deal? Or are you better off negotiating your own deal?
Costco, TrueCar and others all work the same way. You are not purchasing through Costco at all. It is only a dealer referral service. In other words, a dealer will pay Costco a fee for your contact information. That is Costco’s only involvement. You should be able to negotiate at least as good of deal if not better on your own.
I'm a former F&I guy and a watch fan. I collect SEIKO divers and G-Shocks! Wouldn't mind going back into the F&I, but I left many years ago and they don't want us old guys anymore.
Mark, the business seems to much more of a young mans game today, you are right they are really not interested in us old guys. I have always had an affinity for watches, the only highline ones that I have were either given to me from the manufacturer for having won a sales contest or from the Penske Organization when our Acura store attained a profit goal for the year. Otherwise they are all relatively inexpensive. Stay safe, Ray
What are the warranties as applied to rentals? Do they buy their cars without a warranty?
I bought a one year old black 4 Runner from Hertz. I bought it on a rainy, overcast day. After I saw it in the sunlight, I saw the massive micro marring damage in the paint from the automated car washes. This required hours of work to correct. The vehicle has also had fender damage not disclosed (because they had tried to repair). I cannot advise buying a rental for this reason.
Bought a rental car at a huge discount. Insurance insured the market value of the car not the purchase value so that's also an added advantage.
Never buy a car that was a rental in Hawaii. They all tend to be very beat up and have sand in every nook and cranny in the interior.
Ray Emanuel haha I rented a 5 speed Nissan 300Z on my honeymoon in Maui in 1986 and “learned” on that car ! Crunched gears for a bit ! I’m the exact reason I would never buy a used car rental vehicle ! Hey I was 22 years old and learned on it, but got the hang of it pretty quickly.