Hey Man, thanks for the Shoutout :) Looks like you had almost the same Result as me. Temps slightly lower, Noise minimal down and Lows quite a bit up. Thanks for the Vid. Well done 👍🏻 Even the Padmod Test. I had done the same with my Steamdeck an there was much Improvement.
Turning off CPU boost in the Windows 11 Power Options menu will lower the temperature further. Power Options > Processor power management > Processor performance boost mode > Disabled
@@in-xm1py To lower the temperature of the CPU and to extend the battery life of the Rog Ally when gaming. In most games there is no lose of performance by disabling CPU boost, so it's best to disable it.
@@iidjkg What about disabling SMT [AMD name for Hyperthreading] in the bios, and get just 8 pure cores, that will be less power usage and less heat, while keeping 8 real cores, it will be equal to SD Threads, but still twice faster since SD has 4 cores and 8t and here you'll have 8C/8T In theory the CPU should boost higher and gpu should boost higher since you'll free up some resources that get used for SMT
Info: CPU boost AND hyperthread can be disabled for better thermals and battery life and minimal impact on games. Those two features are important for multimedia editing, office, intensive web browsing.
Now this is quality content If one is comfortable with doing a thermal upgrade, getting Ptm7950 is considering one of the best options, especially long term. Loving the graphs and benchmarks as well. Just wish these Phoenix Apu's were able to be undervolted (sadly only the 7940HS can be Undervolted).. Big miss by Amd locking them out using the Curve Optimizer. The one main advantage that the SteamDeck/Steam Deck Oled have over the otherwise superior Legion Go, is their ability to be Undervolted. Have to give Valve props for making it easily accessible in their Bios as well. Here is hoping that once we get Strix Point next year, that Undervolting won't be locked for the handheld chips..
Based on my studies and thermal paste application, I do think that using that type of thermal pad may create air bubbles on the cpu surface creatinf problems in contact with heat pipe (and heat transmission). It may be also fabric bad application from Lenovo too. Also keep in mind that when those air bubbles heat, they become larger too. Basicaly I think that applying thermal paste on the center of cpu it will spread evenly without creating any bubbles, and also better heat transmission. Anyway, nice video and very well explained!
Phase change paste should be the exact size because as the name implies it changes. As the device heats the pad will slightly liquify and will "ooze" out the size after the break-in period even on quality pads. So do not go bigger than the die or IHS when using these 'pads'. It won't hurt anything but can make a mess.
Great video! I know I'm a bit late to the party, I'd like to do a full replacement of thermal pads on the heatsink when I do this mod as well. It looks like they are all either 1mm or .5mm from what you saw. I can't find sizing anywhere else and wasn't sure if your opinion changed. Thanks!
I started to use PTM and K5-Pro in my laptop after hearing it from LTT, great stuff, no need to guess what size pads to get for the other chips so the CPU and GPU will make the best contact. Also works almost as well as liquid metal without the mess or hazards of it. Instead of thermal pads on the pipe, maybe there's enough room to thermal-tape thin, ribbed heatsinks or route another thin heatpipe to it? I want to try it to my One Netbook T1 to better cool that i7 in it. I want to see it the RAM amount is locked in the BIOS, because I want to hack it to 32GB if I decide to a Go.
I believe lenovo uses their own special order version of PTM7000(7958), but installing applying it as PTM7950 performs better? hmm... I think I can stick with PTM7950.
This 7950 absolutely did improve thermals. Not groundbreaking as the go already runs cool, but it does make a difference. I’m currently testing 7950 on other devices and am seeing similar results I also ordered some from ebuy7, so I can compare the Amazon stuff to theirs.
Is that a skin on your GO? Also i had to return mines at best buy due to when i tried to play a game after updating all drivers the games would be like slow motion/stutter like if it was playing like 9fps lol
Hi there, thanks. I am using Egpus with usb 4. What I see is that the Usb4 (backplate) gets really really hot. With the consequence that it disconnects. Any idea how to improve the thermals on the Usb4?
Die SSD wird zu heiß und schaltet dann ab (Bluescreen) Hatte ich auch schon. Ich habe ein 60x60mm Lüfter oben an den Lüftungsschlitzen angebracht der die Luft aus dem Gehäuse zieht. An dem Scharnier vom Kickstand entfernt man die schwarze dünne Plastikabdeckung, dort strömt dann kalte Luft ins Gehäuse und kühlt die SSD die direkt darunter liegt. Man muss nur immer den Kickstand ausklappen damit die Öffnung frei ist. Wenn man den oberen USB 4 Port nimmt wird das Go dort ebenfalls sehr heiß, man merkt es wenn man das Display dort berührt. Am unteren USB4 Port ist das Problem das die SSD zu heiß wird, aber die kann man mit dem Umbau effizient kühlen. Habe mit egpu max. 70-75grad SSD Temperatur. Ohne eGPU 60-65Grad. Ohne den Lüfter hatte die SSD mit eGPU 82Grad und mehr.
@@matthias99442 thanks! I tried to understand what you are saying. You are saying to create a hol at the backplate where the kickstand is. It sounds logical, I'll try it. Thank you
@@faiqkarim1654 You have to unscrew the cover from the Go. The cover has hinges for the stand. There are 2 thin plastic covers on the kickstand that can be removed, then you have an opening right next to the SSD (a kickstand is right above the SSD). What's still missing is airflow along the SSD, this doesn't have to be particularly big or much, but it prevents the SSD from overheating if you use an eGPU on the lower USB 4 port. To do this, I attached a fan at the top of the ventilation slots that sucks the air out of the case and at the same time cold air flows in at the bottom and cools the SSD. But you need a fan that allows the air to circulate in the case. Air at the top sucks out and cold air flows in at the bottom.
@@TechGuyBeau okay so it's been on for 24 hours now, no difference in speed really, pretty much in line with your repasted numbers, however, the biggest difference is the fan noise, maxing it out now is so much quieter, even at low speeds now this thing spits out a lot of heat, so if noise is a big factor for you, then it's definitely worth doing in my opinion.
@@TechGuyBeau I’m a bit gutted to be honest, I was expecting some kind of performance boost, I wish Lenovo would allow us to open the taps a little, we have a 65w PSU, at least let us go to 45w, I know it’s out of spec, but the chassis is clearly capable of handling more, even without the repaste, hopefully we get some software tailored to the Z1 soon from a 3rd party, as I honestly think this thing with the memory it has will fly at 45w.
1) thermal paste holds AT LEAST 4-5 years doing its job. The risk of damaging something while changing the paste is much higher than the real benefits. 2) turn off CPU boost AND hyperthread, both can be disabled for better thermals and battery life and minimal impact on games. Those two features are important for multimedia editing, office, intensive web browsing only. In games the impact in fps is minimal but people get a decent amount of better thermals and battery life.
You don't need any of this. As he said above, it already gets better thermals than the ROG. This is just a guide to optimize it even further. If you're not a tinkerer, this guide is not for you.
Hey Man, thanks for the Shoutout :) Looks like you had almost the same Result as me. Temps slightly lower, Noise minimal down and Lows quite a bit up. Thanks for the Vid. Well done 👍🏻 Even the Padmod Test. I had done the same with my Steamdeck an there was much Improvement.
Eyyyy Lenovo mods! Lets goooo. I’ll send a guy over to you who just asked about llg mods and if I was going to be doing any.
Turning off CPU boost in the Windows 11 Power Options menu will lower the temperature further. Power Options > Processor power management > Processor performance boost mode > Disabled
Why would disable that?
@@in-xm1py To lower the temperature of the CPU and to extend the battery life of the Rog Ally when gaming. In most games there is no lose of performance by disabling CPU boost, so it's best to disable it.
@@iidjkg is it that significant difference though? I dunno man. But cpu does rise in temp really fast for productivity related workloads for sure.
@@iidjkg What about disabling SMT [AMD name for Hyperthreading] in the bios, and get just 8 pure cores, that will be less power usage and less heat, while keeping 8 real cores, it will be equal to SD Threads, but still twice faster since SD has 4 cores and 8t and here you'll have 8C/8T
In theory the CPU should boost higher and gpu should boost higher since you'll free up some resources that get used for SMT
Info: CPU boost AND hyperthread can be disabled for better thermals and battery life and minimal impact on games. Those two features are important for multimedia editing, office, intensive web browsing.
Now this is quality content If one is comfortable with doing a thermal upgrade, getting Ptm7950 is considering one of the best options, especially long term. Loving the graphs and benchmarks as well. Just wish these Phoenix Apu's were able to be undervolted (sadly only the 7940HS can be Undervolted).. Big miss by Amd locking them out using the Curve Optimizer. The one main advantage that the SteamDeck/Steam Deck Oled have over the otherwise superior Legion Go, is their ability to be Undervolted. Have to give Valve props for making it easily accessible in their Bios as well. Here is hoping that once we get Strix Point next year, that Undervolting won't be locked for the handheld chips..
I love video like this. Please make more 🙏
Based on my studies and thermal paste application, I do think that using that type of thermal pad may create air bubbles on the cpu surface creatinf problems in contact with heat pipe (and heat transmission). It may be also fabric bad application from Lenovo too. Also keep in mind that when those air bubbles heat, they become larger too. Basicaly I think that applying thermal paste on the center of cpu it will spread evenly without creating any bubbles, and also better heat transmission. Anyway, nice video and very well explained!
Phase change paste should be the exact size because as the name implies it changes. As the device heats the pad will slightly liquify and will "ooze" out the size after the break-in period even on quality pads. So do not go bigger than the die or IHS when using these 'pads'. It won't hurt anything but can make a mess.
Best Man. Thanks for this. Also ordered PTM7950. You May try out some SSD Heatsink next ? It also heat UP (Got over 75 Degrees in Crystaldiskmark)
My 2280 mod doesn’t get hot. But it’s worth slapping a thermal pad in yours
Great video! I know I'm a bit late to the party, I'd like to do a full replacement of thermal pads on the heatsink when I do this mod as well. It looks like they are all either 1mm or .5mm from what you saw. I can't find sizing anywhere else and wasn't sure if your opinion changed. Thanks!
You think those are just pinned out USB ports on the sides for the controllers? Wonder if we can interface and hub them out...
I like this idea
Can I ask; how are you getting 12k+ on cinebench? My score stays at around 10,490 on R23. Awesome video, by the way!
Hey 1.5mm thermalpad ? Gelid good
I started to use PTM and K5-Pro in my laptop after hearing it from LTT, great stuff, no need to guess what size pads to get for the other chips so the CPU and GPU will make the best contact. Also works almost as well as liquid metal without the mess or hazards of it.
Instead of thermal pads on the pipe, maybe there's enough room to thermal-tape thin, ribbed heatsinks or route another thin heatpipe to it? I want to try it to my One Netbook T1 to better cool that i7 in it.
I want to see it the RAM amount is locked in the BIOS, because I want to hack it to 32GB if I decide to a Go.
I have some leftover sodimm heatsinks I'm going to stick onto the heat pipes to see if it spreads heat out better and helps thermals
Hey, do you have the actual results to compare?
Was it Cinebench C23?
The results are in the video
Would thermal grizzly work? Or ptm would be the best thing to use?
PTM isn't far behind liquid metal and is miles ahead of any traditional paste.
I believe lenovo uses their own special order version of PTM7000(7958), but installing applying it as PTM7950 performs better? hmm... I think I can stick with PTM7950.
This 7950 absolutely did improve thermals. Not groundbreaking as the go already runs cool, but it does make a difference. I’m currently testing 7950 on other devices and am seeing similar results
I also ordered some from ebuy7, so I can compare the Amazon stuff to theirs.
il mio a caldo mi si è spento ,cambierò la pasta termica ,secondo me il problema è quello di aver messo un dissipatore troppo piccolo
Is that a skin on your GO? Also i had to return mines at best buy due to when i tried to play a game after updating all drivers the games would be like slow motion/stutter like if it was playing like 9fps lol
I am gonna try going to micro center and buying one there but might the 2tb one for 800
@@Thebarrioboy2009gmabad idea
@iRaven-_- why is that been pretty good
@@Thebarrioboy2009gma micro center uses a bad 2tb ssd drive
@@Thebarrioboy2009gma ive read that it has some overheating issues
Do with Liquid Metal
I think youre supposed to unplug the internal battery before touching the motherboard
Technically you should. I do it all the time, basically daily in laptops, but don’t be me
Hi, how did you get it in white?
skin
Hi there, thanks. I am using Egpus with usb 4. What I see is that the Usb4 (backplate) gets really really hot. With the consequence that it disconnects. Any idea how to improve the thermals on the Usb4?
Die SSD wird zu heiß und schaltet dann ab (Bluescreen) Hatte ich auch schon. Ich habe ein 60x60mm Lüfter oben an den Lüftungsschlitzen angebracht der die Luft aus dem Gehäuse zieht. An dem Scharnier vom Kickstand entfernt man die schwarze dünne Plastikabdeckung, dort strömt dann kalte Luft ins Gehäuse und kühlt die SSD die direkt darunter liegt. Man muss nur immer den Kickstand ausklappen damit die Öffnung frei ist.
Wenn man den oberen USB 4 Port nimmt wird das Go dort ebenfalls sehr heiß, man merkt es wenn man das Display dort berührt. Am unteren USB4 Port ist das Problem das die SSD zu heiß wird, aber die kann man mit dem Umbau effizient kühlen. Habe mit egpu max. 70-75grad SSD Temperatur. Ohne eGPU 60-65Grad. Ohne den Lüfter hatte die SSD mit eGPU 82Grad und mehr.
@@matthias99442 thanks! I tried to understand what you are saying. You are saying to create a hol at the backplate where the kickstand is. It sounds logical, I'll try it. Thank you
@@faiqkarim1654
You have to unscrew the cover from the Go. The cover has hinges for the stand. There are 2 thin plastic covers on the kickstand that can be removed, then you have an opening right next to the SSD (a kickstand is right above the SSD). What's still missing is airflow along the SSD, this doesn't have to be particularly big or much, but it prevents the SSD from overheating if you use an eGPU on the lower USB 4 port. To do this, I attached a fan at the top of the ventilation slots that sucks the air out of the case and at the same time cold air flows in at the bottom and cools the SSD.
But you need a fan that allows the air to circulate in the case. Air at the top sucks out and cold air flows in at the bottom.
how about the waranty ?
You can most likely do this without voiding the warranty assuming you don’t break anything. But that would depend on your country.
why not just use liquid metal?
That’s risky, especially in handheld you are going to be moving around a lot
Was that a mod to get the white controllers?
It’s a dbrand skin. I have a video applying it
Check out
@dbrand
It’s a dbrand skin
What about liquid metal? I see nobody did in UA-cam.
Nice video BTW.
You can but I’m too scared
Going to try liquid metal on mine, wish me luck.
Let us know. I’m too scared
@@TechGuyBeau will do, I've ordered the stuff, should have an update in a few days.
@@TechGuyBeau okay so it's been on for 24 hours now, no difference in speed really, pretty much in line with your repasted numbers, however, the biggest difference is the fan noise, maxing it out now is so much quieter, even at low speeds now this thing spits out a lot of heat, so if noise is a big factor for you, then it's definitely worth doing in my opinion.
@@OnlyAnOpinion20nice, yeah reducing fan noise is a big upgrade. One day I’ll take the plunge and try it
@@TechGuyBeau I’m a bit gutted to be honest, I was expecting some kind of performance boost, I wish Lenovo would allow us to open the taps a little, we have a 65w PSU, at least let us go to 45w, I know it’s out of spec, but the chassis is clearly capable of handling more, even without the repaste, hopefully we get some software tailored to the Z1 soon from a 3rd party, as I honestly think this thing with the memory it has will fly at 45w.
you should try kryosheet
1) thermal paste holds AT LEAST 4-5 years doing its job. The risk of damaging something while changing the paste is much higher than the real benefits.
2) turn off CPU boost AND hyperthread, both can be disabled for better thermals and battery life and minimal impact on games. Those two features are important for multimedia editing, office, intensive web browsing only. In games the impact in fps is minimal but people get a decent amount of better thermals and battery life.
To turn off cpu boost will tht be inside the windows settings? Also will te hyperthread option to turn off be inside the bios settings?
Do with metal liquid
Too scared
Your missping the Thermal Grizzly thermal pad for cpu! It should take the temps down
next time freeze that ptm to be easy to apply
Yeah I learned about that too late thanks. I’m gonna use that method when I do my deck
@@TechGuyBeau same here did this to my notebook and then i see linus video and when i did to my deck and ally was easy
Very cool video but if I have to do all this just to make my legion run decent? Then I don't need this product smh
You don't. it runs cool already, especially compared to the ROG Ally.
this is just a little experiment ;)
You don't need any of this. As he said above, it already gets better thermals than the ROG. This is just a guide to optimize it even further. If you're not a tinkerer, this guide is not for you.
I would like to see Arctic Silver on this as well and see the results
The Reddit user i mentioned found that it performed worse than new PTM
@TechGuyBeau surprising! I used it on my Switch and fan stays very low
AS5 hasn’t been a top paste for awhile now.
Man wtf you skipped a shit ton of steps in order to get to the fan wtf
Plz dont follow this guy
explain, in detail, specifically why 👇
I was thinking about following him because of his good job, after your nonsense comment, I immediately subscribed him.
@@TechGuyBeauif he is worried about following you, then it means you’re doing a good job 😂 I immediately subscribed you.
Subscribed out of spite as well
Were those condoms in the box?
Nope. They are called finger cots. Oil &sweat free handling of components. Very handy