Jessika came to our church and taught the best message! A father in our church said it was the best message he had ever heard in his life! I have so much respect for her. Will Hart these Greenroom interviews helped me so much through 2020 but, now.... they are so anointed! Thank you for your team and all your good work.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for honoring women AND men! The disrespectful and dismissive attitude towards men in the Church is alarming. I agree that society is influencing women in the Church. God views men and women as equally valuable and honorable, and He loves us all. We need to view men and women in the same way. I am a 72 yo woman who has walked with Jesus for 41 years. I’ve seen a lot in the Body of Christ through the years. Thank you so much for this conversation, Jessika and Will.
Such a great covo! Great job on the convo and Will Hart! So good to see you on here! Did Brazil Iris 2021 missions school. It's amazing to hear more of your story and being brave to be on here. :)
I encountered God by Him giving me His joy! Like a basketful of joy dumped on my head! Each person is unique in their relationship with the Lord and in their encounters! We need to get rid of criticism and negativity! Wow! I know Jesus and that makes me very happy all the time! He adores me and sings over me! What He thinks and says to me is what matters! Let His Word be a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your pathway! Becoming like Jesus more and more! Learn to love and watch your tongue! Have Jesus eyes!
So thankful for this honest online conversation, God bless you both and your proces. I got very blessed bij listening to you. God spoke to my hart through it.
...Would You Rather them (Let younger ones ) be Emotional in the Church,Finding Him ,Pursuing Him,and being Overwhelmed by His presence Rather than the being Emotional or Showing Emotions in the Wrong Place ??....❤❤
Not trying to argue against the point because I have experienced godly ministry through women like Heidi, but in Timothy, chapter 2 wouldn’t the references to Adam and Eve, directly after the instruction for these women mean that Paul was referencing an overall teaching, and not just one for that specific church.
I'm still up in the air on the issue of women in ministry. I will say churches tend to be filled with more women than men. So many more women are preaching now. My prediction is that in 30 years most pastors will be women and church will become kind of a women's club, and men will no longer lead because men typically stay away from spiritual leadership. I think that would be sad. I thank you for this discussion. I'm going to check out Craig Keener.
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah. Reply for it if desired. Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. That is how a woman could judge men of their sins, including homicide. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles. To say a woman can be a Judge over Israel, but a woman can't be an elder in a small church, just doesn't make any sense scripturally.
I completely agree Jess. My main concern has been women taking on the feminism of the culture and bitterness. Sometimes in all female gatherings, I have felt a pressure to agree with this feminist bent perspective. If you don’t agree, it can be perceived as if you are blind to what’s really taking place or you don’t really support women. I think we need to have a more balanced, healthy perspective.
Yes, tv has sure taken a turn making guys wimps and the women all tough. I’m sorry I want my husband to be tough. My husband still opens doors for me after 25 years of marriage and I don’t want that to stop either.
Wow... how many times this guy is just amazed. As a woman preacher i have also recieved these criticisms in a denomination that has affirmed women in ordained ministry since the beginning 😂
Complementarianism does not allow women to preach. I think Jessika is more egalitarian. Feminism is to dominate men, I use to define it as to support women wherever they are…but I believe women are co-laborers, co-leaders, nothing of subservient. Masculine traits in character is needed in leadership but so is vulnerability. I served in military and ministry so many times the oppression is sooo bad that women can get very determined to go full in with vengeance. However when we stand firm with God and his calling He will make a way-women are in the story of glory and on adventures God called her too as well!
Complementarianism That false and confusing teaching, that states Christian women are less than Christian men in a spiritual way, but they really aren't, but they really are. The complementarian teaching prohibits a Christian woman from holding certain positions in a church. They can't be elders neither can they teach men. So why is that? The false teaching makes it clear that the priesthood of the New Covenant is tiered. There is a hierarchy. Those that are higher, the men, can be in leadership positions, like elder. They can teach other men. Those in the lower tier can not be in leadership positions, like elder. They are prohibited from teaching men, because the men are in the higher tier. It wouldn't make any sense. A new believer is automatically assigned their level, higher or lower, at the moment of salvation, as a birthright. Their gender determines their tier. A Christian can not move to a higher or lower tier. A Christian that is in the lower tier (woman) is not allowed to complain of the tier she was placed in. That would be sin, because God made her a woman by His choice. She should accept and also embrace her position in the lower tier. A church, is either a group of Christian men or a group of Christian men and women. A church can never be a group of Christian women, because it would be a group of only those in the lower tier. It would have no elders. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. -excerpt 1 Peter 2 Since the teaching states that women are spiritually inferior to men, but they aren't, but they are, when did that start? But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a wrongdoer. -excerpt 1 Timothy 2 It started with the first woman. She was deceived, and sinned because of it. So we have a teaching that accepts that men and women are fallen beings. Both genders are sinful by nature. However women are different. They are lacking the ability that men have to judge if some situation, some concept or teaching is sinful. This inability was passed down from Eve to all women. It remains to this day. A woman in our time was 'lacking' from birth, even from the womb. So what can be done? Nothing according to Complementarianism. That is because an anointing of that powerful masculine being called the Holy Spirit, is just not sufficient. Even the Holy Spirit can not elevate even one Christian woman to the spiritually superior level of a Christian man.
As someone who also hangs out with the awesome messy-appearing people and "fixes" them, I approve of your wife! Lol (in other words, I help them find out how awesome they really are, and what God has planned for them ;) )
When the men aren't doing the call ...and if not the men I believe the LORD will use a willing women before he allows the rocks and trees to praise etc..
Women & men are definitely of equal value in God's eyes. You need both a man and a woman to conceive a child. Thriving in gentle submission is a journey for both men and women. It is God's intention that men and women are different. May the differences be appreciated as evidence of God's creativity and wisdom. A man's voice sounds different from a woman's. The effect that a father has on his children is different from the mother's. Both are so equally important. Female leadership is certainly Biblical but it is meant to be different in experience and effect from male leadership. It remains dependent on male leadership yet not beneath it in value and impact. Female leadership is inspiring, inviting, and beautiful in its own way, uniquely capturing or enlivening a body of believers in a way that gives glory to God. It shouldn't be surprising that it may look different in the church that it does in the world. I think in these current times as gender neutrality ideology is spreading in influence, it's important not to judge or fear one another for being more traditional or more modern. Let us remain no matter what the light-keepers for the world. Let us influence the world more than it influences us. Let us have faith that God can use our quietness as much as our voices. I appreciated this conversation and the thought-provoking subject. God bless you both for your sincerity and courage. Perfect love casts out all fear.
I totally agree, amen! And male leadership is also dependent on female leadership! "Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord."(1 Corinthians 11:11)
Remember that there were also times when there were female leaders in the Bible, and we are to recognize and honor and respect the gifts that God gives to people, so if a woman has the gift of leadership, then let her lead where God puts her and don't quench the Spirit.
@@JingCao-k9p basically I get the impression that you believe that women should not be telling men what to do or teaching men, and should answer to a man over them?
As a single woman who deals with PTSD, this interview is just 🔥🔥🔥
I am grateful for women like Will’s wife who sow into the ones that others suggest should not be hung out with. What a profound kindness.
Jessika came to our church and taught the best message! A father in our church said it was the best message he had ever heard in his life! I have so much respect for her.
Will Hart these Greenroom interviews helped me so much through 2020 but, now.... they are so anointed! Thank you for your team and all your good work.
Loved this interview. Thanks! Praise the Lord for healing your PTSD. That is amazing!!
22:44 NOT bored. As an older woman I am eating this up. I actually want more detail! Thank you
Will thank you,this needs to be heard by the Whole church ❤
Please bring her back 🤗
Thank you, thank you, thank you for honoring women AND men! The disrespectful and dismissive attitude towards men in the Church is alarming. I agree that society is influencing women in the Church. God views men and women as equally valuable and honorable, and He loves us all. We need to view men and women in the same way. I am a 72 yo woman who has walked with Jesus for 41 years. I’ve seen a lot in the Body of Christ through the years. Thank you so much for this conversation, Jessika and Will.
Awesome 🎉🎉🎉
Dance is a level of intercession
And praise. Praise is spiritual warfare! 🎉
Preach it girl! I think of corrie ten boom and how many people were saved all over the world because she preached about her story and Jesus.
So much goodness here. We are His image bearers, created for good works. Amen to all this
Exciting conversation 🎉
Such a great covo! Great job on the convo and Will Hart! So good to see you on here! Did Brazil Iris 2021 missions school. It's amazing to hear more of your story and being brave to be on here. :)
Truly love the absolutely wonderful way of honesty bringing GODS HEART TO OUR EYES❤❤❤❤❤
Love the way the 2 of you speak so beautifully about all of these topics
Very blunt often very caring and honest
Thankful for this conversation. 🙏
Great interview! Jess is the real deal!
We love this, keep talking about charismatic theology and teachers
Will, your haircut is so badass! Thanks for coming to Life Center recently. It was a blessing.
I so appreciate your green room approach. This is like the Jewish midrash. ❤
I encountered God by Him giving me His joy! Like a basketful of joy dumped on my head! Each person is unique in their relationship with the Lord and in their encounters! We need to get rid of criticism and negativity! Wow! I know Jesus and that makes me very happy all the time! He adores me and sings over me! What He thinks and says to me is what matters! Let His Word be a lamp unto your feet and a light unto your pathway! Becoming like Jesus more and more! Learn to love and watch your tongue! Have Jesus eyes!
I really enjoyed this discussion and love being challenged to learn. I especially enjoyed your comments about Ashbury
So thankful for this honest online conversation, God bless you both and your proces. I got very blessed bij listening to you. God spoke to my hart through it.
Praise God ❤❤❤👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Scripture must interpret Scripture. Great conversation Fam!
Deep conversation on ""STRONGHOLDS""" should be addressed.... HOLY SPIRIT kinda understanding❤
Yes 🙌🏻
I love her.
Thanks
Great conversation! Thanks so much for sharing 😁
Oh my I so love Craig's work!!
Thank you for a fine talk!
wow - what a great interview!!
...Would You Rather them (Let younger ones ) be Emotional in the Church,Finding Him ,Pursuing Him,and being Overwhelmed by His presence Rather than the being Emotional or Showing Emotions in the Wrong Place ??....❤❤
Amen
AN ENCOUNTER WITH HIM INCREASES THE HUNGRY FOR A GREATER RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM JESUS ...YES
Not trying to argue against the point because I have experienced godly ministry through women like Heidi, but in Timothy, chapter 2 wouldn’t the references to Adam and Eve, directly after the instruction for these women mean that Paul was referencing an overall teaching, and not just one for that specific church.
Amazing ❤
Not checking phones that is a huge miracle. I’m always checking my phone.
I'm still up in the air on the issue of women in ministry. I will say churches tend to be filled with more women than men. So many more women are preaching now. My prediction is that in 30 years most pastors will be women and church will become kind of a women's club, and men will no longer lead because men typically stay away from spiritual leadership. I think that would be sad. I thank you for this discussion. I'm going to check out Craig Keener.
I suggest my short and free essay on Deborah.
Reply for it if desired.
Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually.
That is how a woman could judge
men of their sins, including homicide.
She was a pastor, according to the scriptures.
This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles.
To say a woman can be a Judge over Israel, but a woman can't be an elder in a small church, just doesn't make any sense scripturally.
The God of the Bible is emotional and we are created in His image! Emotions for Jesus is healthy!
I completely agree Jess. My main concern has been women taking on the feminism of the culture and bitterness. Sometimes in all female gatherings, I have felt a pressure to agree with this feminist bent perspective. If you don’t agree, it can be perceived as if you are blind to what’s really taking place or you don’t really support women. I think we need to have a more balanced, healthy perspective.
Yes, tv has sure taken a turn making guys wimps and the women all tough. I’m sorry I want my husband to be tough. My husband still opens doors for me after 25 years of marriage and I don’t want that to stop either.
Wow... how many times this guy is just amazed. As a woman preacher i have also recieved these criticisms in a denomination that has affirmed women in ordained ministry since the beginning 😂
Complementarianism does not allow women to preach. I think Jessika is more egalitarian. Feminism is to dominate men, I use to define it as to support women wherever they are…but I believe women are co-laborers, co-leaders, nothing of subservient.
Masculine traits in character is needed in leadership but so is vulnerability.
I served in military and ministry so many times the oppression is sooo bad that women can get very determined to go full in with vengeance. However when we stand firm with God and his calling He will make a way-women are in the story of glory and on adventures God called her too as well!
Complementarianism
That false and confusing teaching, that states Christian women are less than
Christian men in a spiritual way, but they really aren't, but they really are.
The complementarian teaching prohibits a Christian woman from holding
certain positions in a church. They can't be elders neither can
they teach men. So why is that?
The false teaching makes it clear that the priesthood of the New Covenant
is tiered. There is a hierarchy. Those that are higher, the men, can be in
leadership positions, like elder. They can teach other men. Those in the
lower tier can not be in leadership positions, like elder. They are prohibited
from teaching men, because the men are in the higher tier. It wouldn't make
any sense.
A new believer is automatically assigned their level, higher or lower,
at the moment of salvation, as a birthright. Their gender determines
their tier. A Christian can not move to a higher or lower tier.
A Christian that is in the lower tier (woman) is not allowed to
complain of the tier she was placed in. That would be sin, because
God made her a woman by His choice. She should accept and also
embrace her position in the lower tier.
A church, is either a group of Christian men or a group of Christian men and women.
A church can never be a group of Christian women, because it would be
a group of only those in the lower tier. It would have no elders.
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
-excerpt 1 Peter 2
Since the teaching states that women are spiritually inferior to men, but
they aren't, but they are, when did that start?
But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a wrongdoer.
-excerpt 1 Timothy 2
It started with the first woman. She was deceived, and sinned because of it. So we
have a teaching that accepts that men and women are fallen beings. Both genders
are sinful by nature. However women are different. They are lacking the ability
that men have to judge if some situation, some concept or teaching is sinful. This
inability was passed down from Eve to all women. It remains to this day. A woman
in our time was 'lacking' from birth, even from the womb.
So what can be done? Nothing according to Complementarianism. That is because
an anointing of that powerful masculine being called the Holy Spirit, is just not
sufficient. Even the Holy Spirit can not elevate even one Christian woman to the
spiritually superior level of a Christian man.
JEREMIAH 30 : 17
As someone who also hangs out with the awesome messy-appearing people and "fixes" them, I approve of your wife! Lol
(in other words, I help them find out how awesome they really are, and what God has planned for them ;) )
When the men aren't doing the call ...and if not the men I believe the LORD will use a willing women before he allows the rocks and trees to praise etc..
ABSOLUTELY, taking scripture out of context.... AMEN
“Did you forget your head covering?”
I don’t know if that was cool man. Am I missing something?
Let’s just encourage one another. Find good as Jesus does. ❤️❤️
Honestly, I’m pretty 110% certain Will was just joking. He definitely doesn’t believe women are supposed to wear head coverings. 💜
@@annedavismusic bingo
❤❤😂
Women & men are definitely of equal value in God's eyes. You need both a man and a woman to conceive a child. Thriving in gentle submission is a journey for both men and women.
It is God's intention that men and women are different. May the differences be appreciated as evidence of God's creativity and wisdom. A man's voice sounds different from a woman's. The effect that a father has on his children is different from the mother's. Both are so equally important.
Female leadership is certainly Biblical but it is meant to be different in experience and effect from male leadership. It remains dependent on male leadership yet not beneath it in value and impact. Female leadership is inspiring, inviting, and beautiful in its own way, uniquely capturing or enlivening a body of believers in a way that gives glory to God. It shouldn't be surprising that it may look different in the church that it does in the world.
I think in these current times as gender neutrality ideology is spreading in influence, it's important not to judge or fear one another for being more traditional or more modern. Let us remain no matter what the light-keepers for the world. Let us influence the world more than it influences us. Let us have faith that God can use our quietness as much as our voices.
I appreciated this conversation and the thought-provoking subject. God bless you both for your sincerity and courage. Perfect love casts out all fear.
I totally agree, amen! And male leadership is also dependent on female leadership! "Nevertheless, neither is man independent of woman, nor woman independent of man, in the Lord."(1 Corinthians 11:11)
Remember that there were also times when there were female leaders in the Bible, and we are to recognize and honor and respect the gifts that God gives to people, so if a woman has the gift of leadership, then let her lead where God puts her and don't quench the Spirit.
@@ke6gwf Yeah, that's why I said female leadership is Biblical
@@JingCao-k9p you demoted women to be beneath men, and not able to serve in the same roles as men, despite biblical evidence to the contrary.
@@JingCao-k9p basically I get the impression that you believe that women should not be telling men what to do or teaching men, and should answer to a man over them?