The Wraith's ORIGINAL Design YOU NEVER KNEW ABOUT!

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  • @MintSkull
    @MintSkull  2 роки тому +372

    This is a REMASTER of my old Wraith Theory but including a lot more evidence, facts and content, and also, it contains the answer to that cliffhanger I made. I hope you enjoy this Mysteries of The Fog Episode! By far the craziest rabbit hole in DBD!

    • @foxesnroses
      @foxesnroses 2 роки тому +9

      Make sense, Hes made out of mud and tree bark , Like camouflage , But to me he is always the predator, With his messed up gargling cut through sounds

    • @HoppersMustache
      @HoppersMustache 2 роки тому +5

      You are the goat. Thanks for making such awesome content!

    • @Mefrcuh
      @Mefrcuh 2 роки тому +3

      This vid was the shit please make more of these it's really enjoyable

    • @atruceforbruce5388
      @atruceforbruce5388 2 роки тому +1

      perhaps the wraith is molded after a Stephen king movie with a wooden Indian coming to life

    • @AlkhorDm
      @AlkhorDm 2 роки тому +1

      write please how you name that Navaho character?

  • @KethIsDeadHaha
    @KethIsDeadHaha 2 роки тому +348

    Makes sense why one of wraith's skins have description "he went around Swamp, skinning frogs into this outfit"

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +118

      Yeah, for a guy that worked in a junkyard he was a lot of swamp based cosmetics...

    • @Chainsawwed
      @Chainsawwed 2 роки тому +31

      @@MintSkull and then there's the random chain dreadlocks and scrap axe 😂

    • @Sykroid
      @Sykroid 2 роки тому +1

      Ooooo good catch

    • @ogehennaa
      @ogehennaa 2 роки тому +3

      I see wraith as being a witch doctor

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 2 роки тому +2

      @@ogehennaa A skinwalker, or Navajo medicine man turned bad.

  • @kiraflo98
    @kiraflo98 2 роки тому +843

    Honestly such a shame. I really like the wraiths design and his existing lore isn't terrible, but it would have have been really cool to know what lore was planned for the original Wraith.

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +65

      I really wish one day they reveal it in some way! Like some concepts of it

    • @user-ih8ki5yj2j
      @user-ih8ki5yj2j 2 роки тому +4

      @@MintSkull a new killer?

    • @darealshro0mpy
      @darealshro0mpy 2 роки тому +25

      It is a shame, but think about it.
      If we got this version of Wraith and this so called "Bob". We would of never gotten Myers, and I think we can all agree that BHVR aquiring Myers is a BIG part of this games growth and was the key to opening the door to other licenses

    • @kiraflo98
      @kiraflo98 2 роки тому +24

      @@darealshro0mpy I mean, we got both hillbilly and leatherface despite hillbilly being based on Bubba. So even if we got Bob, doesnt mean we wouldnt have gotten Myers

    • @darealshro0mpy
      @darealshro0mpy 2 роки тому +8

      @@kiraflo98 I mean its pretty safe to say that the reason why Bob got scrapped is because they were able to snatch the Halloween license. I would assume it would of been the same case for Billy if they were able to get TCM first, or Trapper and F13

  • @octave772
    @octave772 2 роки тому +478

    I really hope they finish up and add the village map, would definitely improve my relationship with the swamp realm

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +43

      Still wishing to this day :D

    • @maxthebabe
      @maxthebabe 2 роки тому +1

      They should give some love to the old killers fr

  • @veleroxin107
    @veleroxin107 2 роки тому +99

    Headcannon: Wraith sees every survivor as feng, in otherwords a monster.

    • @frescobar1839
      @frescobar1839 2 роки тому +7

      I wouldn't blame him. I played against an obnoxious Feng Min as Doc and got looped to Hell all game

    • @veleroxin107
      @veleroxin107 2 роки тому +3

      @@frescobar1839 I'd recommend to play clown if you wanna close them loops

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond 2 роки тому +5

      It always seems like the Fengs put the map offerings on... and it's always The Game, when I'm killer, and Dead Dawg, when I'm survivor. It's like they try to be an inconvenience, but only to one person.

    • @UwULilyKitsune
      @UwULilyKitsune Рік тому +1

      @@manicbeyond im 3 months late but i have to say its always fengs who are cute and nice to me so idk what you guys have been doing to piss off the feng hivemind but you probably deserve it

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond Рік тому

      @@UwULilyKitsune idk I said Yui is the best Asian character?

  • @xxprototypexx5056
    @xxprototypexx5056 2 роки тому +40

    Fun Fact: in Azarovs resting place at his office, if you search the walls, you can find a document framed to the wall with the name Danny Johnson(Ghost Face) just barely readable on it. This hints that Ghost Face may have been a hired hitman of Azarov before he was taken. When Azarov died, Danny fled and began his newspaper killings.

  • @xord1946
    @xord1946 2 роки тому +28

    It feels so more satisfied to have that actual lore for Wraith.
    I always felt like his lore felt very rushed. Yeah, that's a guy named philip who killed a mafia boss and therefore became an invisible killer for the entity? What? Why is the guy suddenly an invisible hunter?

    • @thenoelgamer
      @thenoelgamer 2 роки тому +3

      yeah it never made sense to me, like ??? the people who lived around him didn't payed attention that he looked like THAT?

    • @Angel_Flash
      @Angel_Flash 2 роки тому

      read his tome lore...

    • @xord1946
      @xord1946 2 роки тому +2

      @@Angel_Flash While I do admit I haven't read any tome (I should), other killer have a very sufficiant main page lore. Even if some killers get more detailed than others, the Wraith's main page Lore is rushed like no one else.
      But yeah I should read tomes, there's pretty interesting stuff in those I've heard.

    • @JetstreamTheSexSam
      @JetstreamTheSexSam Рік тому +1

      ​@@Angel_Flashit still makes no sense

  • @elpabloeshue
    @elpabloeshue 2 роки тому +93

    When you talked about the white eyes, I thought it meant that they are blinded by their desire for revenge, since I think that fits both Spirit and Deathslinger, and the Wraith, being that monster-slayer hero of the Navajo, seeked revenged after seeing his people get killed by the colonists. That would fit his legend, since these men could be considered monsters by him after what they did.

    • @jordaninacan
      @jordaninacan 2 роки тому +2

      I think this theory falls apart when you look at the artist though. Her eyes are pitch black and she would fall under that category of having the white eyes as well as she was not exactly evil before the entity took her in.

    • @blackwolfe9965
      @blackwolfe9965 Рік тому

      ​@jordaninacan Except for the fact that her hands are made of ink, so it's quite obvious that the Entity has made changes to her and it's possible that the black eyes are either a byproduct of its changes or an intentional change by it.

    • @xenodude4718
      @xenodude4718 9 місяців тому

      I thought black meant it let them go by their desires, while white meant it forces them to do it without their full control.

  • @widgetfilms
    @widgetfilms 2 роки тому +351

    I know a lot of people would be angry at this, but I would love a lore overhaul where the wraith is connected to a forest spirit. Auto-haven could be still work as his realm, maybe it was built on top of a forest and the wraith is lashing out against the destruction of nature. Maybe the mind of Philip merges with the spirit because they both see Azarov as a monster.

    • @markvisser3598
      @markvisser3598 2 роки тому +36

      If he was this protector of the woods. Maybe he could have been a great hero of his kind. But one day he could have been taken by the Entity a couple of 100th of years ago, just to suffer or something. And in present day, the Entity decided to show what happened over the years to the place he swore to protect. Now he wants to retake what's his, but he has to kill all the inhabitants aka the survivors.
      But knowing he will be forever alone, the last of his kind. The rest is dead. Forever fighting in an city in a place called home, his home, his swamp, his wood...
      The monster of the old tree.

    • @nebsV2
      @nebsV2 2 роки тому +13

      This is a fun little lore that I could get behind. It would all make way more sense

    • @someguy5982
      @someguy5982 2 роки тому +1

      Little geek😂

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      So erasing an important and deeply impactful event? Oh did you forget he comes from the Nigerian civil war?

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      @@kylesimone6140 huh?

  • @2J0E7
    @2J0E7 2 роки тому +141

    I’d imagine Wraith was conceptually much different before Autohaven, and that at some point they created what we have now to fit the theme of Autohaven, which I think is some of the best lore we’ve gotten. If that is the case, it’d be cool to imagine what we could have gotten instead

    • @Jstar95175
      @Jstar95175 2 роки тому +9

      Some of the best lore? Interesting, I'd have to say I think you're the first person I've heard say that

  • @Mad_King_Corbin
    @Mad_King_Corbin 2 роки тому +93

    been waiting for this for so long I'm glad you came back to it. I wish wraith got to keep that original lore it sounds really interesting and I feel like would add a lot to the character

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +10

      Me too, I wish we could see a potentially evil Wraith, or a more tribal inspired killer. But hey, what we have now is also good! That leaves the doors open for another original killer that fits that theme better!

    • @anodos_
      @anodos_ 2 роки тому +2

      They should rework his lore and perks and give us the black wood tree map. This game needs more aesthetics. And they should start to improve it from their base game killers.

  • @jonsku6662
    @jonsku6662 2 роки тому +167

    But while waiting for dev confirmation, the real question is:
    ... Is there anything left to tell about Bob, outside of being an early concept for Totally-Not-Myers before Myers took his place?

    • @farkbett699
      @farkbett699 2 роки тому +12

      Just a single art work I think. And his old code remnant for Wraith

    • @dutchvanderlinde248
      @dutchvanderlinde248 2 роки тому +18

      Code remnant aside, If it's true Bob was scrapped when they got Myers and not before, then it's possible they had the stalk power conceptualized and/or in development and just gave it to Myers.

    • @rokukou
      @rokukou Рік тому +6

      Bob's full name was actually Miguel Meyers

    • @ParasocialCatgirl
      @ParasocialCatgirl Рік тому

      Chances are that Bob might have been called something like 'The Stalker', with pretty much Evil Within as a power.

  • @creepei518
    @creepei518 2 роки тому +17

    It's very sad that Wraith's background and everything was "destroyed" that much, imagine how interesting a forest/wood lore and all the things around that would have been.

  • @falseshepherd7620
    @falseshepherd7620 2 роки тому +6

    This lore is better imo makes Wraith feel a lot scarier than some guy who is mad at his boss

  • @BassBaseAce
    @BassBaseAce 2 роки тому +21

    The thing about ideas that get scrapped or rewritten due to time constraints in game development, is that those ideas often get reused later. So I think you're on it with the wraith being some kind of wood monster or spirit is likely correct, but only part of the story. Let's think of another character that has a similar game design (and name) as the wraith, the spirit. She was brutally murdered and came back as a vengeful ghost. A wraith is also a spirit, so perhaps like every killer (aside from some licensed characters and arguably the dredge) the wraith started out as a normal person that was killed at the roots of the blood willow and considering the native influence he came back as a slayer of the 'monsters' that killed him and perhaps his family/tribe, but having been created from such burning vengeance then fell under the influence of the entity.

  • @MagicWhatsItCalled
    @MagicWhatsItCalled 2 роки тому +17

    To be honest, I always thought it was weird that even though we got the Hag we never actually see any of the Cannibals that kidnapped and ate her, after all the devs came up with a village of cannibals but instead of making one of these cannibals into a killer they made it one of their victims? It makes sense to me that the Wraith might been intended the head hunter or spirit that guided the cannibal village that kidnapped the hag in the first place, and his perks kinda support that. It makes sense that he would have enhanced abilities for hunting people if he was literally a cannibal actually hunting people to bring back to the village. Just like the hag, he's made of wood, his add-ons are reminiscent of the same symbols mentioned in her lore that gave the powers that turned her into a wooden monster. Perhaps the blood willow tree was a corrupting force that turned people in to flesh eating plant people?

  • @lipopcorne489
    @lipopcorne489 2 роки тому +8

    It's really cool that you found all of this hidden stuff to finaly explain how the wraith was originaly going to be. Nice job !

  • @madlysoldier5143
    @madlysoldier5143 2 роки тому +4

    Maybe, they could “retcon” Wraith lore a bit more and include the “Tree spirit”
    I imagine it would be something like this.
    “After killing his old boss, due to his guilt of all killing be it intentionally or not, he decided to “hang” on the Red Tree in the area. Only for his spirit to merge with the tree itself, creating the Wraith.”

  • @FinestFantasyVI
    @FinestFantasyVI 2 роки тому +6

    Also explains Wraiths sound design, when he's cloaked
    And the sound when he's stunned he sounds like an animal

  • @lykonic1763
    @lykonic1763 Рік тому +2

    Personal Headcanon of the Original Lore for the Wraith:
    Philip Ojomo was a hunter and fisherman in the bayou. Having grown up in the marsh, he was extremely familiar with the muddy waters, the drooping willows, and the many animals that call it all home. He believed that the swamp had its own soul, and he practiced what others could only relate to voodoo. He made his living catching crawdads and hunting other game, making charms with them or selling them as food at the market in the nearby town to be able to afford necessary items and a few creature comforts, as well as food he couldn't hunt, fish, or gather from the swamp. He was known by few in the small town nearby, as he spent most of his time contently by himself in the wetlands, but those who knew him liked him well enough. He may not have been well educated, and the charms he made were rather odd and sometimes grisly, but he was pleasant and friendly, and knew the swamp and all its inhabitants like the back of his hand. But the swamp is a dangerous place, and not everything or everyone in them is as peaceful as Philip. It was commonly known that there were some who lived even further within than Philip, whom kept entirely to themselves, and whom most people would rather swim with a crocodile than be caught near their homes. There were reports that these people were a multitude of things: from a holed-up gang of outlaws, hiding just out of the reach of Johnny Law; to a group of lunatics, who had escaped from the asylum years ago and managed to coexist with the land; to a nudist colony where psychedelic mushrooms and other plants were eaten like candy, making them wildly unpredictable and dangerous. No matter the rumor, one thing was for certain. Once you go so far into the swamp, that was their territory, and nobody had the courage to find out if any of the rumors were true.
    One day, tragic news got to Philip by word of mouth as he made his rounds at the market: two kids, brother and sister, had been out playing in the swamp, and presumably wandered too far. By the time their folks noticed and went out searching, all they found was their daughter's shoe, dozens of muddy footprints, and a few drops of blood. The townsfolk were afraid that after all this time, the mysterious deep-swamp dwellers had finally revealed their nature, and the parents were beside themselves with grief. What was to become of their children? Underneath his rough and grimy exterior, Philip was a big softie, and he knew something had to be done. He couldn't just sit idly by knowing that children had been taken out in his neck of the marsh. So, he went home, loaded up his rifle, and come nightfall he went out searching for the kids.
    It wasn't long before Philip found a set of tracks. No matter whether it was light out or not, he could track anything in the swamp; even if it went in the water, he could find it. He was hot on the trail like a bloodhound, stalking along just the same as if he were out hunting for 'gator. But 'gators didn't live in rickety wooden stilt houses, ramshackle bridges and walkways connecting them all above the murk and mud. He couldn't hear or see anything; it was like the whole place was empty. He went to stand up, and get a better peek at what was up ahead, but as he did so he heard the telltale mushy sound of a footstep behind him. He whipped his gun around and fired, closing his eyes so the muzzle flash didn't rob him of his night vision. He heard a shout from whoever snuck up on him, and then another, and another, as the inhabitants of the village began to wake up. One of the sentries had found a trespasser, and they all knew what that meant.
    Philip fought hard, taking a couple more shots and even thrusting the stock of the rifle to bludgeon his assailant, but by the time he was gaining the upper hand, he lost it as he was surrounded. Mud-covered, rag-clothed people, moving more like animals than humans, swept in and began battering him with hits from club and fist. It wasn't long before they had him bound, and he could hear them ringing an old, low bell, possibly taken from one of the wrecked boats from the river, as if to let the whole village know it was time for dinner. They dragged him by the legs past the buildings, to the exposed roots of a large willow tree. They pulled him inside, tying him to the roots, where he could just barely see the skeletal remains of what must be dozens of bodies. The thought of how many people the cannibals had captured and eaten just a few miles from his own home made him sick, and the smell of rotting meat only made it worse. They took their time carving him up, eating pieces of his flesh right in front of his horrified eyes, but even still he lashed out, kicking and fighting for an escape he knew he could never make. Day after day, they came to take more of him. His infected flesh oozed discolored pus and fluid, and he was running a fever hot enough to boil a kettle on his forehead. Blood dripped from his mouth from the blood he'd coughed up, and yet he talked to himself, urging himself to hold on. Someone had to get the word out about these monsters; someone had to make them pay for what they've done. Loss of liquids sent him into shock, and he found himself talking to the tree, begging it to help him, as if it could do anything. When the tree responded, he asked again for it to help him, to help him escape so the cannibals could pay. The tree obliged. Roots began to move, slowly circling around Phillip, pulling him in. He was certain this whole thing was a nightmare, and he tried to cry out, but it was too late. Philip Ojomo had disappeared.
    The next day, the sheriff and his deputies had found the village. None of the townsfolk were quite so adept at navigating the swamp as Philip had been, so it took the small search party a few days to find and follow the trail of the missing children. What they found was utter carnage. Bodies, mutilated and torn, strewn about the boorish wooden walkways and the water below. A handful of bodies were hung impaled on tree branches, like a grim warning to all who dare come near. One was even splayed in ritual fashion, the skull and spine removed, surrounded by what looked like occult sigils written in blood. Between his own strange spiritual practices, and his absence as of late, this started the rumor that Philip had come out and taken the law into his own hands. But Philip Ojomo was never found. Some say he managed to fight the cannibals, and despite being outnumbered, he killed them all for what they'd done, made a sacrifice to appease nature, and ran off so he couldn't be tried for his crimes. Others say he was killed and eaten too, and it was an animal or a madman that tore these people apart. Some even claimed there were monsters lurking these very woods, who prey on the wicked and the foul. Rumor after rumor sprang up, just like before. But nobody saw the face amongst the trees, and nobody heard the gurgling breaths coming from the roots of the bloodstained willow. What they did hear occasionally some nights, far out in the swamp, was the haunting sound of an old bell ringing. Thus began the local legend of the Wraith of the Swamp.
    Yes, I know I went overboard with the detail, and I know it doesn't hold up in parts. To summarize, if Philip was supposed to be the original Swamp killer, regardless of what else relates to him, it stands to reason that when they instead made Hag the Swamp killer, they recycled his old lore and freshened it up to fit the new character. So I combined the Hag's lore with what little we know about Wraith's original design, including the likelihood of him being a hunter of some sort and his connection to the Bloodwood Willow, and made up a narrative that combines the two. Its not perfect, and it's far too long for a DBD lore entry, but I had fun writing it and that's what counts.

  • @rissin
    @rissin 2 роки тому +30

    you put a lot of work into these videos, i'm very sure you're going to grow fast, keep it up!

  • @marcos_derozzi
    @marcos_derozzi 2 роки тому +3

    really well put together video man
    it just kept getting more interesting

  • @ElJorge
    @ElJorge 2 роки тому +1

    12:17 0:43 Hillbilly had a white eye too, or almost a second eye.

  • @Rainiac1
    @Rainiac1 2 роки тому +16

    I want to see a dev react to this video so badly.

    • @atanaZion
      @atanaZion 2 роки тому

      Why?

    • @Rainiac1
      @Rainiac1 2 роки тому +3

      @@atanaZion To see what they have to say regarding this video. Maybe they'll reveal more interesting stuff.

  • @tovarkamara
    @tovarkamara 2 роки тому +3

    Now, taking into account he's a wooden monster, his fear for fire (archives story) makes much more sense!
    Thanks for your videos, I can't stop watching them 👀

  • @bingzumbong2890
    @bingzumbong2890 2 роки тому +56

    Godlike rabithole, godlike edit, godlike theorie, entertaining to watch. Keep up man. I was missing someone who covers dbd lore, without an anoying voice. *Thumbs up*

  • @aordinaryperson8098
    @aordinaryperson8098 2 роки тому +20

    It would be interesting to have two Killer sharing the same realm

    • @larsarmstrong3871
      @larsarmstrong3871 2 роки тому +18

      nurse, clown, huntress, and plague all day hello.

    • @dumblenutz5561
      @dumblenutz5561 2 роки тому +1

      🤦‍♂️

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +22

      Nah but what you commented makes sense, there is no killer in DBD linked to another, the only reason clown, huntress nurse and plague share a realm is because of reuse of assets, not because of lore reasons. Clown is supossed to be walking everywhere in the realms yet he only is in the asylum, and Plague / Huntress have nothing to do with each other. Two killers that knew eachother and shared a map would be interesting!

    • @aordinaryperson8098
      @aordinaryperson8098 2 роки тому +2

      @@MintSkull what I would like to see is a rivalry between two killer for the realm if one is less useful for the entity she'll make sure that he knows

    • @AgenteFuego
      @AgenteFuego 2 роки тому +5

      @@MintSkull Well, they didn't know each other, but Spirit and Oni kinda fit the bill since they share a realm because they are related.
      We also might get another Yamaoka in the future because there's still one katana in the family residence.

  • @thegametravler
    @thegametravler 2 роки тому +58

    I think the Nurse may have had something similar to the wreath happen to her. I say that because she float's and has a bag on her head like someone who was executed by hanging... And according to her story she only lost her sanity and disappeared in a ambulance crash... She was responsible for the crash but how does she get the ability to teleport and the urge to where a sackcloth bag on her head...?
    I do think that she was intended to be a nurse to begin with but I don't think her story entirely maches her in-game caricature and ability

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      So do you people read the lord or just skim them act smart? She suffocated people as her main form of killing method....so of course her design would incorporate the fact...she literally took her own breath away. Also she the stereotypical ghost so she obviously could teleport.

    • @alexvallejoluci2459
      @alexvallejoluci2459 2 роки тому +3

      I like your thinking

    • @atanaZion
      @atanaZion 2 роки тому +3

      Tbf her design is prob simply a reference to Silent Hill's Nurses

    • @thegametravler
      @thegametravler 2 роки тому

      @@atanaZion but she isn't from silent hill tho maybe your right I haven't seen them so I wouldn't have known

    • @ghoulishgoober3122
      @ghoulishgoober3122 2 роки тому

      She suffocated her patients, and I think somewhere in her description it mentions the bag as a kinda parody of how she killed her victims. Same thing with the constant heavy breathing. It could also be this is purely a punishment by the entity. At least and especially looking at the gas mask cosmetic. If you've worn one, without really being able to control your breathing it can be suffocating. You feel the mask get sucked onto every inch of your face whenever you inhale. Kinda spooky. It feels like, because you probably aren't, getting complete breaths.

  • @RYUZAKILL117
    @RYUZAKILL117 2 роки тому +15

    I actually like this way more than what we officially got (and makes a lot more sense)

  • @AprilGhost
    @AprilGhost 2 роки тому +8

    Omg, this blew my mind! SUCH interesting stuff in this one!

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +3

      Wow, thank you so much for the comment!

  • @leemo1439
    @leemo1439 2 роки тому +1

    That was an incredibly well put together theory and edit. Top notch stuff as always!

  • @Rup7ureOfGlory
    @Rup7ureOfGlory 2 роки тому +16

    I love me some theory videos. Tasty food for thought and gives some really interesting insights into a video game world we enjoy being despite. :) awesome job

  • @annareifer2249
    @annareifer2249 2 роки тому +9

    Would be cool if we could still get these two unreleased swamp maps when they rework the realm :(

  • @tomatennektar9181
    @tomatennektar9181 2 роки тому +2

    In some tomp or in hag lore there is a sentence from hag were she said:„don’t worry gran I won‘t be captured by cannibals or TURN INTO A TREEE“so maybe wraith was turn into a tree by the blood widow tree.

  • @mariasilenthill
    @mariasilenthill 2 роки тому +4

    You are crazy, man. Sick video. It was very cool to watch, great job! As a Wraith main, I appreciate it.

  • @getabetterlaugh9327
    @getabetterlaugh9327 2 роки тому +5

    Even tho i dont play dbd anymore i still tune in for your videos

  • @Kraut108
    @Kraut108 2 роки тому +6

    Now this is the investigative journalism our boy Phillip deserves!

  • @GameGuy515
    @GameGuy515 2 роки тому +5

    I think that it would be cool if bob was like a mechanic and his power was something that effected generators and maybe flashlights or something

  • @FangelicVive
    @FangelicVive 2 роки тому +3

    Something that just occurred to me is that, while Wraith wasn't the original Autohaven killer, maybe Azarov, or one of his hencemen, was "Bob" in the original lore?
    Think about it - Wraith didn't want to be a killer, but his boss was happy to do it. Even on the description for Azarov's resting place it mentions how people were killed, and while some were for the money, some were for the fun of killing.
    This means that they wouldn't necessarily have to change the lore behind Autohaven, just replace Azarov's executioner with a hired body that didn't want to kill people. While Autohaven changed Wraith's lore, perhaps Wraith's introduction changed a bit of Autohaven as well. Maybe in the original lore Azarov was the killer, lured people into his Gas Station, broke down their vehicles, and then killed them while they had no way to escape - this idea is supported a bit by the various lore snippets behind Autohaven maps. This would have made him, lore wise, closer to Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho", but maybe when BHVR got the Halloween license they realized that the appearance of the killer and his power were too close to how they'd make Myers and scrapped him (like you'd do in a wreckers yard🙃).

  • @squoosee
    @squoosee 2 роки тому +3

    Been watching for a while but this video really blew me away! The research, the editing, the timing and the jokes, amazing 🙏🙏

  • @no-barknoonan8426
    @no-barknoonan8426 2 роки тому +3

    Hillbilly wasn't actually a farmer, his parents were farmers. He spent his life chained up in a room until he was strong enough to escape.

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond 2 роки тому +1

      Ya, but it still works, he was chained in a room on a farm, with too much GODDAMN CORN!

    • @no-barknoonan8426
      @no-barknoonan8426 2 роки тому

      @@manicbeyond They didn’t even give him corn lol. They gave him some bullshit like pig intestines and slop

  • @daynejosephh
    @daynejosephh 5 місяців тому +3

    This is the best DBD video I've ever seen. So creepy!

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  5 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @AlsoMeowskivich
    @AlsoMeowskivich 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe he could be a vengeful wood spirit who dares trespass on sacred ground or defile the woods in some way, or simply a boogeyman.

  • @MiquShiro
    @MiquShiro 2 роки тому +7

    Would be interesting if they ever decide to go back and redo wraiths lore, putting him back to where he belongs and putting in a new killer in autohaven (with same lore as current wraith just altered to fit)

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому +2

      Ah yes because,
      Wraith lore: *talks about the Nigerian civil war, a topic that never really is talked about in main stream media.*
      Y'all animals: ummm lets change it cause it doesn't fit the "aesthetic"

    • @MiquShiro
      @MiquShiro 2 роки тому +4

      @@jesterparty6947 Ah yes just cause wraiths lore has a part of it be about Nigeria suddenly you cannot touch it like its holy.
      Dude come on i even said you dont have to yeet the whole thing just give wraith new lore and make a new killer using old wraiths lore with tweaks.

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      @@MiquShiro it's not just "Nigeria" like I said it was a bloody event in history that cause 1 million people to lose their lives. That has gone completely invisible in modern media, but bet you wouldn't just go "America" when talking about 9/11, Pearl harbour, the civil war.
      Have some fucking respect in the first place.
      Second, if you read the tomes you would know how important the event was...

    • @JetstreamTheSexSam
      @JetstreamTheSexSam Рік тому +1

      ​​@@jesterparty6947respect? It's a fictional story that could be better, that simple, and the war is literally irrelevant to Wraith

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 Рік тому

      @@JetstreamTheSexSam HIS FUCKING LORE you fake ass bitch. Why do you think he was a fucking immigrant???? That led him to work at the junkyard. Who the fuck are you to go against the dev and said what they wrote for him isn't real.

  • @leonlacroix2638
    @leonlacroix2638 2 роки тому +3

    Also reminds me a little bit of "the guardian" a older horror movie.
    This couple hire a nanny Camilla to help with there newborn. Didn't realize she was really some wood Nymph attempting to sacrifice there newborn to some evil tree that bleeds and has the faces of the children it did devour.

  • @kyo4510
    @kyo4510 2 роки тому +2

    I love the effort you put into your videos! You deserve a lot more subs!
    One of my favourite DBD Channels 😌

  • @destro4
    @destro4 2 роки тому +1

    I like to imagine autohaven belongs to a cut crossover with the movie "Christine." (the movie about a Plymouth that just, kills people)

  • @Minaranea
    @Minaranea 2 роки тому +2

    This is like the 2nd video i've watched on this channel and I have to say: You're doing amazing work. Interesting facts, fascinating stories, backround knowledge, good research. I will leave a like now and watch some more of your work! ✨🤩

  • @orsgl1
    @orsgl1 2 роки тому

    Just wanna drop to say I love the fact you use Silent Hill 2 music here, but the video is also done really well, keep up the good work!

  • @Weirdo_Wanderer
    @Weirdo_Wanderer 2 роки тому +2

    I'd say from what I understand, The Wraith was a spirit of the forest, someone who maybe even was a guardian of a village in the swamp that attacked trespassers who attempting to harm anyone from the native people. He was born of the Blood Willow tree which was a sacred landmark to him and the people. The Entity corrupted him, and in the realm, since his eyes are white like the other blinded killers as I'll say, he thinks survivors are outsiders coming to forsake the land.

  • @dardade3277
    @dardade3277 2 роки тому

    4:52 I've only noticed it just now, but it looks like Claudette's shirt in this old promo art got readapted into Jonah's default shirt.

  • @lazerax9
    @lazerax9 2 роки тому +2

    I always felt Wraith's "lore" didn't make any sense and felt rushed, I dismissed it as just another inconsistency (like Nurse teleporting and randomly having a bag over her head), but apparently it was literally slapped together last minute lol. I don't know if they've expanded on the "new" Wraith lore in tomes but if they haven't I would honestly love a retcon that adds a more cohesive backstory/theme for Wraith.

  • @Peghop
    @Peghop 2 роки тому

    I don't even wanna think how much research u had to do, great video mintskull

  • @olliecloudd
    @olliecloudd 2 роки тому +3

    Makes so much sense, It's a shame they scrapped him to be shoved in autohaven. I feel like I would have loved him way more if they kept his original lore. DAMN YOU MYERS! lol

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond 2 роки тому +2

      DAMMIT MYERS, WHY COULDN'T YOU COME TO THE GAME A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE GAME WAS MADE!?
      (No really, we need Bob & Beta Wraith)

  • @ElJorge
    @ElJorge 2 роки тому +1

    19:24 *Wooden men* 🌳

  • @ryebananabread7843
    @ryebananabread7843 2 роки тому +2

    I really wish the village map was in the game. It’s what the Knights map should’ve been. An outdoor map that’s crowded as you duck in and out of houses. Imagine Wraith’s old village, burned by the killing crews.

  • @sanity406
    @sanity406 2 роки тому +1

    Finally! I was waiting so long for that video! And I absolutely love it :D
    Maybe they can extend Wraiths love with Swamp rework, maybe instead of being taken by the entity right after murder of Azarow, he would wandered to the abandoned village map and live there, isolated from humanity, killing anyone who comes there in fear of them finding out who he is and what he did, and burring thier body's under the tree afterwards...

  • @AlsoLizard
    @AlsoLizard 9 місяців тому

    I love how much effort you put into these. It's amazing stuff

  • @ZeroNobody0
    @ZeroNobody0 2 роки тому

    And in these picture we see what they have in common is big bird himself watching wraith performing a mori with approval.

  • @JP-sae
    @JP-sae 2 роки тому

    This is my new favorite dbd video on all of youtube, crazy good job on te research, really no stone were left unturned lol

  • @TraegerInc
    @TraegerInc 2 роки тому +3

    I think it would be pretty cool if they developed the village as a swamp realm and released it as a standalone map (bc we’ve been getting only a few maps now) and it could be tied to the archives with like a terra 396 wraith lore where he’s actually a monster, and make a legendary skin where he doesn’t have the white eyes bc he knows what he’s doing (though don’t know how they could make him look any more wooden than his existing skins) idk just something I thought about

  • @DoctorPhantasm
    @DoctorPhantasm 2 роки тому

    Bro I am loving the editing on this!

  • @bewarethebat0
    @bewarethebat0 2 роки тому +1

    Man, I would've loved to see his original lore! He's personally my 2nd favorite stealth killer, and it makes sense if he was actually from the swamp. His design doesn't fit autohaven at all, but is a really cool design

  • @blooey-YT
    @blooey-YT Рік тому +1

    I never even realized Wraith was made out of bark, I thought he looked more like someone from Pompeii or something

  • @azrael9561
    @azrael9561 2 роки тому +3

    Its a shame we did not get the village and the bloodwillow tree. Such a cool looking concept.

  • @thema1622
    @thema1622 Рік тому

    14:15 Well... That explains the cracky sound for his breathing.
    So... probably is some kind of treant like creature "protecting" his swamp ir so.

  • @Interitus1
    @Interitus1 2 роки тому +2

    I always knew Autohaven wasn't really wraith's realm. As you point out none of it fits. I just viewed it more as a generic realm. I would love for some of the old swamp maps to come back. I thin the bait show with the neon is always such a cool visual. And the VIllage looks like it would be an interesting design, very vertical, but unlike other vertical maps, this is also very open. I'd actually love if they retcon'd Wraith back to his original lore.

  • @king6238
    @king6238 2 роки тому +1

    Holy smokes you put so much effort into this vid. MintSkull would give the Observer a run gor his money with his DbD knowledge jeez. Great job 👏

  • @Ssean_TV
    @Ssean_TV 2 роки тому +1

    this might explain why his lobby animations are so strange, if he was actually meant to be a hunter who excels in tracking, it would explain why he looks around his surroundings in the lobby

    • @manicbeyond
      @manicbeyond 2 роки тому +1

      I legit thought he was like paranoid about something, I was like "dude, you're the killer, don't worry." But honestly this would make so much more sense.

  • @ElectronicPulseBeat
    @ElectronicPulseBeat 2 роки тому +2

    extremely good content my dude

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed :D

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako 2 роки тому +2

    Tbh wraith's design reminds me more of a tree, given the protrusions from his hand and idle position. So red forest he'd fit in perfectly. Tbh his design could be reworked to have car parts sticking out of him or car oil and grease being used as face paint, along with metal shrapnel lodged in his arms or head. His design has nothing to do with cars or machinery, which it should

  • @inzanemonkey0510
    @inzanemonkey0510 2 роки тому

    Fantastic video! every point felt well researched and well proven to make a very compelling arguement!

  • @BasementDweller_
    @BasementDweller_ 2 роки тому +1

    I always wanted The Warith to be a wooden creature inhabited by some dark and ancient Spirt and the realm would be some spooky woods.

  • @addxct.
    @addxct. 2 роки тому +1

    12:43 "the people that wronged him, and did him wrong." this is a good wording choice, as the words here were chosen goodly.

    • @MintSkull
      @MintSkull  2 роки тому +1

      I was waiting for this comment 😂 I cringed really hard while editing the vid on this part but I could not remove that part without making the whole video sound weird so it stays

    • @addxct.
      @addxct. 2 роки тому

      @@MintSkull video was still really interesting regardless, i just noticed that line in particular when i was watching it lol

  • @spottlessbump3824
    @spottlessbump3824 2 роки тому

    This was a very well done video, nice job

  • @tomcroft1156
    @tomcroft1156 2 роки тому

    I love to hear the Croft manor theme. By the way, u made an amazing video! Gg

  • @Hadkh188
    @Hadkh188 2 роки тому +1

    This was awesome, it is amazing all the research you do.

  • @josemedina1805
    @josemedina1805 2 роки тому

    2:53 are you sure that's not just a barren version of Gas Heaven? The tall object to the right looks to be an antenna pole that wouldn't make sense being in a swamp.

  • @Bonjemus
    @Bonjemus 2 роки тому +2

    The part with Wraith's lore was hilarious.

  • @Headspr0uter
    @Headspr0uter 2 роки тому +1

    while "bob" looks a lot like michael myers, i thought the supposed "crawler" concept art bore a striking resemblance to the Witch from left 4 dead in stature, skin colour, hair and clothing. it seems likely to me a killer for the left 4 dead collab crossed their mind as they were proposing Bill and while the timeline doesn't quite add up seeing as she got added much earlier than Bill, Hag's beta name of "Witch" along with her body type and oversized claw hand make me wonder if there's more to it that only MintSkull could dig up.

  • @groovywentv
    @groovywentv 2 роки тому

    Dude, awesome video, you earned a sub and I would love to se more your takes on the lore so I'll be watching your other vids for sure.
    I own the DBD artbook and have been debating wraith with friends and people for a while, specially when the tome came around and it was a bit confusing the new lore, although some of this stuff I had a good hunch, I loved your White Eyes Theory, not to mention the way you placed all the evidence and stuff, what a genius! Great vid!

  • @CoSmiNxD1000
    @CoSmiNxD1000 2 роки тому +1

    Love this type of video. Keep the good work💪

  • @TheStarDeath
    @TheStarDeath 2 роки тому

    I love finding out new things about dbd, your videos are really good, keep it up!

  • @CeltaHeaven
    @CeltaHeaven 2 роки тому

    Amazing video man, congratulations.

  • @TheJeffIsMe
    @TheJeffIsMe 2 роки тому

    I'm liking these more informative theory videos. You do a great job keep it up 😊

  • @wojtekhiow496
    @wojtekhiow496 2 роки тому

    Honestly I'm surprised how well it also explains Myers unaccurate design (green overalls, 1.78m height) with him being one of the tallest killers in the game. They just reused Bob for our boy Mikey.

  • @fennic6892
    @fennic6892 2 роки тому

    12:56
    MintSkull: But of course, that is just a theory...
    Mat Pat: A GAME THE-
    MintSkull: But anyways...
    Mat Pat: Awww....

  • @cachitoXIII
    @cachitoXIII 2 роки тому

    Man what an awesome work you did with this video! Thanks for bringing us all this lore and information
    Also I love the main theme of Tomb Raider Anniversary that sounds on the "3th part of the puzzle" 😍

  • @Angel_Flash
    @Angel_Flash 2 роки тому +1

    Bro he's... he's literally an African spirit of vengeance... He's basically the same concept as the Spirit, except he didn't die before he was taken by the entity. Dude was tormented by the Nigerian civil war, and he was permanently disfigured after his first ever murder. His bell was something he was supposed to ring to signal incoming danger to his village, and now it's original use is twisted because when you hear it, HE'S the incoming danger. Autohaven Wreckers makes PERFECT sense to be his map because it's where he BECAME the Wraith. His addons, while being completely made up, are meant to be some form of African sigils. The reason why he went from being "a normal human" to "a wooden... WRAITH with invisibilty powers" is the same as any other killer that went through a strange transformation. The Entity did that to them. It's the same as The Nurse, Hag, Spirit, Twins, Oni, and Artist. If anyone is close to your theory, it would be The Hag because she's LITERALLY a wendigo. Wraith's design looks more like it's loosely based off of either the Grim Reaper (since he has a bone/skull motif and rings a bell that signals death), or general voodoo mythos. His current lore is already great, and it makes perfect sense. It's like you only read his character info lore but not his tome lore.

  • @MilesPlaysPriv
    @MilesPlaysPriv 2 роки тому

    I'm sold, this makes so much sense. I kinda wish they just retconned it back to how it was and made a new killer for Autohaven lol

  • @t.o.4251
    @t.o.4251 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this vid. I will always love Wraith. He's not the strongest killer but sometimes he's the key to an easy 4k or trolling survivors. And they did fine with his lore considering the (alleged) circumstances, even if "Philip the Mechanic" is a weak and weird premise. I at least find myself thinking about his morality a lot, and his extra lore in the tomes put Wraith against one of the most tragic backdrops of modern history and gave him a clear motivation and a reason behind his bell. It's more than I can say for Hag...
    I wonder what can be salvaged of the old ideas without erasing what's already there. And by that, I mean that Nigeria has swamps and forests too.

  • @deathclawdaddy
    @deathclawdaddy 2 роки тому

    Im glad you put togeather the Navajho lore as well! I made this connection a long time ago when i first started playing and pointed it out to my discord how they looked identical!

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      But it's based on African themes....y'all are telling on yourselves.

    • @deathclawdaddy
      @deathclawdaddy 2 роки тому +1

      @@jesterparty6947 the Navajo are native American. you can literally look this up.

    • @jesterparty6947
      @jesterparty6947 2 роки тому

      @@deathclawdaddy yeah but Phillip is Nigerian, an African MIGRANT, Native Americans aren't the only ones to use runes.

    • @deathclawdaddy
      @deathclawdaddy 2 роки тому +1

      @@jesterparty6947 The way the Wrait looks (based on the Navaho monster hunter warriors) HArdly has anything to do with runes. In fact, i dont know of any native Americans that use runes anyway. Im a Cherokee and Sue descendant and i dont recall hearing anything about runes...

    • @JetstreamTheSexSam
      @JetstreamTheSexSam Рік тому +1

      ​@@jesterparty6947then why is he so heavily based around Native American themes?

  • @bogdawson2323
    @bogdawson2323 2 роки тому +1

    Justice for Bob and the Wraith! This sounds way better than what we got!

  • @ElroyTheTwost
    @ElroyTheTwost 2 роки тому

    Naw you're wrong for 19:23 bro that caught me off guard and was the first time I've laughed at that stupid tree since I first saw it

  • @anguswillis9361
    @anguswillis9361 4 місяці тому

    I think you can say that some of Bob's core aspects remain in the game in the form of Azarov, a mechanic-themed killer who made Autohaven his home before Wraith killed him

  • @Jenny_Myers
    @Jenny_Myers 2 роки тому

    That Silent Hill 2 soundtracks its realy good, glad someone still hearing them

  • @rotinred
    @rotinred 2 роки тому

    Love this video and the silent hill music in the background

  • @JosiesCloset
    @JosiesCloset Рік тому

    Ok but like, why do I want them to be like “damn…guess we gotta change it back”

  • @Renouf
    @Renouf 2 роки тому

    This might be the best video you've ever made. I think with a better title it would really take off

  • @veleroxin107
    @veleroxin107 2 роки тому

    Imagine if they add the clawer as a killer for Halloween, my dreams of a spider monster would come true.