Very well expressed. I have a colleague who refuses to acknowledge this point despite me knowing full well they understand it and accept it. Of course, they are right wing.
I've come to the conclusion, over many years of conversations with right-wingers, that it is a form of ideological sociopathy. It gives you a get-out-of-jail-free card when it comes to caring about anyone other than those you make a conscious decision to care for, while your default reaction is to assume that all misfortune is self-inflicted and self-perpetuated.
It is easy to refute: He has put freedom into a package deal to consume. He is saying we should have the freedom to consume. Socialists ignore the means to produce something of value, they are focused on consuming it. And when he says "freedom to live in poverty" he's doing it again. Poverty is the natural state of man and always has been. What is unusual is a state of wealth. Wealth was a position held by a select few through brute savagery, and only after the Industrial Revolution where man was set free, did that wealth begin to appear in a broader sense. Freedom means the freedom recognised to all individuals, to think, and act on one's thoughts, and create value in exchange for value. This man wants to chain down that aspect of man and have him forced to produce for those that refuse to. He also ignores that a prosperous society is benevolent (not altruistic, it's not the same thing). Hospitals for poor people did not begin with governernment, not did free education. They began with benevolent individuals.
Freedom is not an abstract concept. The Tories famously want a 'small state' ie one which intervenes as little as possible and they pass legislation to enable this. This creates various 'freedoms' eg the freedom to exploit people, to charge exorbitant rents, to restrict worker's rights, and ,for some, they'd like the freedom to hang people. The Press in this country is largely not free as it's owned and manipulated to the agenda of mostly right wing individuals who really don't want you to be free at all.
We have freedom to return the needed people to parliament to make the necessary changes. It is our own failure that we appear unable to do that simple thing!
This is such a powerful speech. Resonated VERY strongly with a work i was creating, so i used and credited him with his deeply powerfully delivered speech.
I have lived in abject poverty since 2017 - when I was scammed out of my lovely retirement home and all my money. I have lost everything since then including my beautiful wife who left me last year after 16 years of marriage. I don't know how much longer I can carry - every day I wish I was dead. Yes, as Jimmy Reid says - I have my freedom. But it's worthless when you are dirt poor.
So what’s he’s alternative ? Some sort of Utopian Worker’s Paradise 🙄 I take it he read Animal Farm I wonder if he’s wage was the same as the average person he represented 🤔
When someone advocates State control to bring "economic fairness" to the people, I ask them to point out a Country where that has occurred. Poverty increased in Cuba under Castro, while he became the richest man in the country. Poverty and starvation came to Venezuela after Maduro took over, and somehow his daughter ended up as the richest woman in the country. Freedom IS messy, and not all outcomes are equal -- but that does not mean that State control will guarantee a more fair society. If history is our guide, the more state control there is the worse it is for the ordinary people. Can we make our Free Societies better? Why yes we can. Start with things like a tax code that cannot be gamed by lawyers and accountants, and where special provisions cannot be added by politicians seeking donations from wealthy donors. Flat 20% tax after a fixed personal deduction and apply it to ALL income no matter how it is derived? Why not? That still will not mean that everyone will have an equal outcome -- and anyone promising you that is lying to you. What it will do is give you confidence in your country again.
Very well expressed. I have a colleague who refuses to acknowledge this point despite me knowing full well they understand it and accept it. Of course, they are right wing.
I've come to the conclusion, over many years of conversations with right-wingers, that it is a form of ideological sociopathy.
It gives you a get-out-of-jail-free card when it comes to caring about anyone other than those you make a conscious decision to care for, while your default reaction is to assume that all misfortune is self-inflicted and self-perpetuated.
no-one is left or right, we are all on the bottom, left and right gives an illusion of choice, but we all go the same way in the end
It is easy to refute: He has put freedom into a package deal to consume. He is saying we should have the freedom to consume. Socialists ignore the means to produce something of value, they are focused on consuming it. And when he says "freedom to live in poverty" he's doing it again. Poverty is the natural state of man and always has been. What is unusual is a state of wealth. Wealth was a position held by a select few through brute savagery, and only after the Industrial Revolution where man was set free, did that wealth begin to appear in a broader sense.
Freedom means the freedom recognised to all individuals, to think, and act on one's thoughts, and create value in exchange for value.
This man wants to chain down that aspect of man and have him forced to produce for those that refuse to. He also ignores that a prosperous society is benevolent (not altruistic, it's not the same thing). Hospitals for poor people did not begin with governernment, not did free education. They began with benevolent individuals.
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose
Love that line
The current Labour party could do with a few people with the integrity and eloquence of Jimmy Reid.
The current Labour Party are so detached from the origins of the Labour Party there just Tory’s with a different colour of tie on
I know what you mean. It's sad. @@17henke
Indeed they could that's why his granddaughter just got elected to Parliament
@@thequestioner5916 It just struck me on thursday that Mhari Black has a lot of his qualities. SNP, I know but I am sad she is stepping out of it.
They got rid of them.
Brilliantly put.
Why can,t we have a political party led by an empathic man like Jimmy Reid ❤
Freedom is not an abstract concept. The Tories famously want a 'small state' ie one which intervenes as little as possible and they pass legislation to enable this. This creates various 'freedoms' eg the freedom to exploit people, to charge exorbitant rents, to restrict worker's rights, and ,for some, they'd like the freedom to hang people. The Press in this country is largely not free as it's owned and manipulated to the agenda of mostly right wing individuals who really don't want you to be free at all.
Spot on and an enlightening description
A great speech!
Rip Jimmy, and the truth that he carried
"An intellect far beyond what we ever thought"
Sir Alex Ferguisson.
We have freedom to return the needed people to parliament to make the necessary changes. It is our own failure that we appear unable to do that simple thing!
It's the parties . We don't have enough choice . It is always Tory /Labour like Tennis . I would like a change ! ✌🏼
Make sense.🙏✝️🛐💜💜💜
JR. A great man.
Freedom is Abstract
This is such a powerful speech. Resonated VERY strongly with a work i was creating, so i used and credited him with his deeply powerfully delivered speech.
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Brilliant . Keep his TRUTHS alive 👍 ✌🏼
So true 👍
Amazing. Love Jimmy Reid. Wish I had that ability’s to express my thoughts, feelings and injustice the way he could. Articulated
Thanks for posting this
Well said
Truth
Spot on.
I have lived in abject poverty since 2017 - when I was scammed out of my lovely retirement home and all my money. I have lost everything since then including my beautiful wife who left me last year after 16 years of marriage. I don't know how much longer I can carry - every day I wish I was dead. Yes, as Jimmy Reid says - I have my freedom. But it's worthless when you are dirt poor.
Hugs. 💕Sorry to hear of your situation. It seems that where this present government wants all to be.
"The party of law & order" seems to encourage these vile & ruthless scammers.
Truly sorry for your losses, in my life the bane is thieves.
Hugs,sorry to hear about of your situation
poor you , you have my sympathies, i have doubts about your wife though, she should have helped you out
Jimmy Reid. What a great man he was.
👌💡❤️⚖️
We could definitely use that gent in the States.
Upload more of this old stuff!
Kenneth Williams was having none of it. I think he was a born again conservative, preferring the everyone for themselves attitude.
☯️🌏🌀
Jimmy reid was never ever given due credit.
I feel mell gibson may have seen this. Circa 1994
I watched this on telly, it was funny watching Kenneth Williams flounder. Not so funny now a quarter of the population or more is "eating cardboard".
So what’s he’s alternative ?
Some sort of Utopian Worker’s Paradise 🙄
I take it he read Animal Farm
I wonder if he’s wage was the same as the average person he represented 🤔
When someone advocates State control to bring "economic fairness" to the people, I ask them to point out a Country where that has occurred. Poverty increased in Cuba under Castro, while he became the richest man in the country. Poverty and starvation came to Venezuela after Maduro took over, and somehow his daughter ended up as the richest woman in the country. Freedom IS messy, and not all outcomes are equal -- but that does not mean that State control will guarantee a more fair society. If history is our guide, the more state control there is the worse it is for the ordinary people.
Can we make our Free Societies better? Why yes we can. Start with things like a tax code that cannot be gamed by lawyers and accountants, and where special provisions cannot be added by politicians seeking donations from wealthy donors. Flat 20% tax after a fixed personal deduction and apply it to ALL income no matter how it is derived? Why not?
That still will not mean that everyone will have an equal outcome -- and anyone promising you that is lying to you. What it will do is give you confidence in your country again.
Reminds me of Hannah Arendt's work "The Freedom to be Free"