You're Lying to Yourself. The Tone Search Will Never End. Pedal Pushers Podcast.

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  • Опубліковано 2 кві 2024
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    Zach and Matthew are back with a vengeance! New gear has entered Zach's life and it's reminded us that the tone search will never end. We dive deep into this idea and more on the latest episode of the Pedal Pushers Podcast.
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  • @VisualGuy
    @VisualGuy 2 місяці тому +8

    My friends and I have a saying. "Do it. Buy it. Good." That's absolutely positive gear reinforcement!

  • @adambakercollege
    @adambakercollege 2 місяці тому +9

    My buddy retired from active military duty, so we got him a double neck Dano that he's been talking about. Friends help friends get gear!!

  • @brianwaitzman
    @brianwaitzman 2 місяці тому +9

    I'm sitting here playing a guitar I've had since I'm a teenager through an amp my friend sold me for $50 15 years ago....what are you guys chasing?!?!?
    I've definitely bought a few guitars and a buncha pedals over the years but the "chase" stops once you realize the gaping black hole of sadness that lurks in all of us due to daily human existence will never be filled by something you bought.

    • @dan197573
      @dan197573 2 місяці тому +1

      thanks for the depressing revelation

  • @timoconnell
    @timoconnell 2 місяці тому +9

    This has quickly become my favorite music and gear related podcast / UA-cam channel. And thank you for the amazing pedals!

  • @seanzinger
    @seanzinger 2 місяці тому +3

    Turned 40 October 11, 2022. I also spent 100x my age on a new guitar. 🙄 You guys are right. The chase never ends. Always trying to fill the huge hole inside our souls.

  • @mrskullman40
    @mrskullman40 2 місяці тому +6

    I turn 40 in October as well Zach... I feel like this episode gave me justification to make a big purchase this year hahah. Thanks guys

    • @seanzinger
      @seanzinger 2 місяці тому +2

      Did that for my 40th too. Go for it!

    • @revolead
      @revolead Місяць тому

      I might have to join you guys in January, when I turn 40.

  • @joerob3081
    @joerob3081 2 місяці тому +3

    Hi, my name is Robbie and I'm a tone junkie. I had my first hit of tone around April of 1997 and I've been addicted ever since

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm jones'ing for some consumerism dopamine

  • @Wyldwulf
    @Wyldwulf 2 місяці тому +4

    It's deep seeded and lizard. We're all just making up for the need to drag in a Wooly Mammoth.

  • @MrLespaul2000
    @MrLespaul2000 2 місяці тому +1

    Lord, that Les Paul is a beaut. My tone search is done I have the Herc. I have bought loads of overdrives thinking oh that one is it then onto the next but the Herc has hit the spot with me. Cheers from the UK.

  • @rodvella-iq4so
    @rodvella-iq4so 2 місяці тому +2

    I found that I was buying gear with the hope of finding a tone that would transform my playing to sound more like my guitar hero. Of course you can get close but it didn’t make me a better guitar player which is really what I’m after - only hours of practice can do that. So for me GAS can be inspiring, but ultimately it’s fleeting.

  • @brianbucca3815
    @brianbucca3815 2 місяці тому +2

    I played that same fuddle about 3 weeks ago at Wildwood! felt like history in my hands and played beautifully, congrats Zach!

  • @heycaptjack
    @heycaptjack 2 місяці тому +1

    Dig my mighty Herc! It is a phenomenal drive.

  • @romestant
    @romestant 2 місяці тому +1

    I've been done buying guitars 3x this year. Just bought a partscaster strat with a single unidentified bucker in the bridge position. put thing strings and tuned to C standard... that thing is just so inspiring... I'm done buying guitars again until next week when I'll keep looking for more...one thing I want is a good les paul... I'll sell the old one when I find a good one.

  • @WhyAlwaysMeMario
    @WhyAlwaysMeMario 2 місяці тому +1

    Zach...congrats on that gorgeous LP! Absolute beauty! Matthew...I love you, and I say this coming from a place of love, but let the convo breathe a little.

  • @DrMattWalton
    @DrMattWalton Місяць тому +1

    I’m a one of each type…but by no means a great player…still learning, but I love the differences between all of them

  • @romestant
    @romestant 2 місяці тому +2

    two college degrees in one room , that's basically a doctorate!... this made me chuckle very loudly

  • @189pinto
    @189pinto 2 місяці тому +1

    It's funny, I've never really fit in any categories throughout my life. Same is true here. I've settled in on a few guitars that I probably won't ever sell now. They're not fancy and they are all different - and I love playing all of them. They inspire me in different ways and I cycle through them constantly. Right now my favorites are my PRS S2 Standard 24 and my G&L ASAT Special. But my core group of guitars also includes a Strat, an SG and a Les Paul. The Strat is the only one that I'm struggling with a bit. I love listening to other people play Strats but they don't sound good in my hands (at least to me). I'm working on it though. The only GAS I have right now is for a red Fender Precision. Also, @Zach, I keep thinking that if you love Ghostbusters, you might like my all time favorite move as well: Buckaroo Banzai. Maybe not, or maybe, what people love is pretty unique to the individual.

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy 2 місяці тому +3

    The ones you missed are the guitarists who buy "that players" gear. Wherein their obsession with the player is so ingrained that they've made the pursuit of their tone their pursuit. And the antithesis of that (which I feel I fall into) who tries to find oddball stuff that doesn't have specific/notable connection or providence to any player or history. PGR on those types; both are in pursuit of a tone and aesthetic and style with specificity, and that's a noble pursuit.

    • @charleszaman7666
      @charleszaman7666 2 місяці тому

      People going to the end of the world for Josh Hommes tone when there’s so many easier ways to do it and the whole idea of taking his approach is to try different things other people don’t use just blows my mind. Can’t help but feel bad for them it’s so ridiculous

    • @MatthewTimmons_Mythos
      @MatthewTimmons_Mythos 2 місяці тому +2

      @@charleszaman7666 I'm a gigantic Homme fan and I purposely try not to get anything he uses for that reason. Inspired by how he approaches gear, but not copy it. Unless someone has a SIB Echodrive for sale. I want that lol.

    • @charleszaman7666
      @charleszaman7666 2 місяці тому +1

      @matthewTimmons_Mythos I’m a gigantic Matthew Timmons fan, he is the tone goat 🐐

  • @CarolMatzPiano
    @CarolMatzPiano 2 місяці тому +1

    I "reincarnate" my gear into new gear; keeps my sound fresh plus dopamine hits. So I'm always selling. I think modding is to make gear custom to me and my preferences, not to make it "better." But most important: set a budget realistic for your income, then have fun.

  • @davroshalfbeard8368
    @davroshalfbeard8368 2 місяці тому +3

    I have boxing match in my head every time am in a guitar shop 😂

  • @stahliwood8755
    @stahliwood8755 2 місяці тому +1

    Congratulations on the Les Paul. I bought a Lovepedal Kalamazoo silver for 100 bucks, and it sounds like a Klon Centaur opinions will vary through. Dickey Betts and seeing his Les Paul's started my guitar journey

  • @markhopkinsmusic
    @markhopkinsmusic 2 місяці тому +2

    I feel so seen. I am so itchy for a new guitar. Leaning towards a LP Special - but man, I dig a good Honeyburst.

  • @disco4535
    @disco4535 2 місяці тому +1

    Life is so insanely short. I strongly suggest you get something if you really want it. You can always sell it if you end up not liking it or need money.
    y Dad saved up for many years to buy a nice truck and 5th wheel camping trailer. 8 months after buying it he was undergoing chemo for his cancer. In 2021 he passed away 2 months before his 50th bday. He got to use his trailer for 1 trip that only lasted a weekend, just a trip to try it out and get all the bugs out before he went on a long trip with my step mom. Buy it. Use it. You never know what the future holds. You can always get more money. You cant get more time

  • @benjohnson4810
    @benjohnson4810 Місяць тому

    That Les Paul is so cool. Strangely enough, i feel like Andy Wood at Songbird Foundation when he played the sunburst Les Paul, then the telecasters...I think the tele is cooler somehow. It's really more of a sound thing or ergonomics, not looks necessarily, BUT i do LOVE the sound of a Les Paul.

  • @stevematheson8788
    @stevematheson8788 2 місяці тому +1

    I like to think of my guitar buying as binge and purge. I binge a lot more than I purge. 😂

  • @BillAltman
    @BillAltman 2 місяці тому

    Finding amps and guitars that work well together is a big part of it,the amp inputs all receive signal just a little differently I have guitars that are magic into some amps (1974 mesa or top hats for me) and some just won’t jive.

  • @davroshalfbeard8368
    @davroshalfbeard8368 2 місяці тому +1

    Really classy looking les Paul mate very nice purchase ❤

  • @coryburns13
    @coryburns13 2 місяці тому

    gear buying is DEFINITELY a pathos of mine lol...that search never ends...I think it's less of a search and more of a journey. In time you end up finding something, whether it was what you were looking for or not, who knows?!?!?!

  • @g_and_kikos_homestudio
    @g_and_kikos_homestudio 2 місяці тому +1

    Congrats on the new badass guitars guys

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice R9 bro, I got a Paisley Black Penguin for my recent 60th, so I'm on the same page. Kudos for celebrating GAS instead of ragging on it like most do. Sure it's a sickness for some, but for most of use, it's a healthy hobby.

  • @JohnW335andTele
    @JohnW335andTele 2 місяці тому

    Oh man, I definitely have stories to tell. Back in the 90s my wife and I went into a music store and I saw two Soldano hot rod 50 half stacks. One in the Clapton grey tolex and another one in all black. Needless to say, I ended up leaving with the gray colored half stack jammed into the back of my wife’s little Toyota. Years later my wife and I needed the money, so I had to sell it and I sold it for somewhere around $750. I really wished I still had that. Also, one time I went into a store back in the 90s and saw an Ibanez TS 808 tube screamer for $60. Mind you, this was not a re-issue. So, needless to say, I went back and scooped it up. A while, later, you guessed it, I sold it. However, I sold it to a friend for the same price that I bought it for and if he still has it, he would maybe consider selling it back to me. It’s a journey, alright!!

  • @jimbrozn
    @jimbrozn 2 місяці тому +2

    I appreciate your noticing of the situation, however to just say ‘let go’ I think you’re missing the point, and could be a little biased as being in the business of selling pedals? Things, like guitars, pedals, watches or whatever, the magic / great feeling toward it, will wear off as a process of habituation, It does not matter what it is, it could be a real burst, Cass Sunstein has just written a book about how this works, whereas an experience does not do that, as you only live it once.
    Appreciate your being willing to talk about this.

  • @MrScrofulous
    @MrScrofulous 2 місяці тому +1

    True. I'm done buying guitars, except for an LP Custom, and a Music Man Kaizen. then I'm done. I promise. BTW, I love my Cactus Chupacabra Goat Sucker. It be cool. I only have a Justin Johnson slide and tungsten ring slide and a new tuner pedal inna post currently, which is pretty chill, hen ya think about it.

  • @bigpk2003
    @bigpk2003 2 місяці тому

    The first I listed after was a Jaguar in the mid 90’s. But that was due to Kurt. The first that I loved playing was an early 2000’s Fender Custom Shop 69 strat. Oly White. ❤

  • @sixstringthing1984
    @sixstringthing1984 2 місяці тому

    Really dig Matthew's Boogie shirt

  • @jamesc8563
    @jamesc8563 2 місяці тому

    I might actually almost be done with the search for acoustic guitars. I only have one that I’d like to trade out-a vintage Gibson 12-string that’s nearly unplayable for my smallish hands due to it having an absolutely monstrously huge neck, even for a 12-string-it makes a ‘50s style “baseball-bat” six-string neck seem like an old 3/4ths-size Duo-Sonic in comparison. Sounds great but I physically can’t reach some more complex chord shapes, and even before I started getting nerve issues in my left hand, my hand would start to hurt bad after only about 10 minutes strumming cowboy chords on that behemoth. Now I can barely fret a G chord on it.
    My other acoustics, I like well enough that I’ve not really been tempted to add any new ones to the stable for years now-even when I’ve had money to burn and a bunch of high-end ones around to try out. Might eventually get a beater with a pickup in it or a collapsible travel guitar that’d fit in the overhead bin.
    Electrics, though…the GAS bug never dies. I thought I’d whittled my collection down to a manageable rig I’d be content with-the Les Paul that I’ll never part with because it’s just become “my guitar” at this point, a Heritage 535, and a US Fender Tele…
    …And then I start thinking things like “Y’know, I kinda miss my Gretsch hollowbody,” or “Hmm, a Jazzmaster might be neat,” or “Well, I don’t have anything that can do a position-4 Strat sound…”
    And then I start thinking I really need to get a different amp, too; my Mesa combo sounds great but I can’t, like, physically LIFT IT too well anymore now that my back’s starting to go kaput on me, and it won’t do the cranked-5e3 sound I’ve been really jonesing for…
    Meanwhile, my long-suffering bank account takes a drink of whiskey, lights a cigarette, and says “Aw hell, here we go again.”

  • @craighaynes1384
    @craighaynes1384 2 місяці тому +1

    Les Paul nick name idea: the B-R9

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    Idk if it qualifies as a kind of buyer, but my experience is one of starting thirty years ago with no money and having a series of unplayable guitars with bad electronics and recycled strings, then after ten years I settle on an Epiphone Les Paul that is all kinds of bad, and it's my only guitar for fifteen years. Then after 25 years I finally have some money, so I go berserk. I go from one guitar for all that time, to (so far) a pair of Gibson Les Pauls and four American Fenders. And that's not even mentioning the amps. Same deal there (BTW a 1965 Twin Reverb IS better than a Peavey Rage 158 lol). What's the name for that buyer? The suddenly-not-broke-gimme-everything guitarist?

  • @JediJkB81
    @JediJkB81 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the name of the new guitar should be Mitos, which is Portuguese for Mythos.. Portuguese being the native Brazilian language. I am also a dork.

  • @LLVG83
    @LLVG83 2 місяці тому

    Don’t overdo modding. My lesson: I found out I like my heavy Gibson LP Special with low wind pickups and the Music City bridge so much better then my lightweight but heavily modified Fender Tele Vintera Roadworn. Not going to go down that rabbit hole anymore. Will just buy stuff that works from now on. Maybe I’m not a Fender guy anymore after 27 years in.

  • @KimberInstruments
    @KimberInstruments 2 місяці тому +1

    The BBLP..? Fit and finish is huge! Hard one to explain to buyers

  • @swiney2639
    @swiney2639 2 місяці тому

    name it something after the Terry Gilliam film Brazil. Maybe Tuttle after Robert De Niro's character

  • @EJH-jn6mo
    @EJH-jn6mo 2 місяці тому +4

    I said to my wife 3 weeks ago that I’m done buying stuff for the most part… since then I’ve purchased two new Murphy labs LPs and a new 212 cab with another one the way and will be buying the Friedman Plex when it’s released next month. The struggle is real.

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 2 місяці тому +1

      Give me some money

    • @seanzinger
      @seanzinger 2 місяці тому +1

      Dayum. 😅

    • @kwyatt261
      @kwyatt261 2 місяці тому +2

      Me over here thinking about financing a Les Paul Tribute...

    • @jimbrozn
      @jimbrozn 2 місяці тому

      Love it when people are so quick to talk about there obtaining of stuff.

    • @m.charron
      @m.charron 2 місяці тому +1

      That might be indicative of a problem, dude. I don't know your situation, but from what you described, it sounds like it's time to take stock and talk to someone if need be.

  • @rajno0310
    @rajno0310 2 місяці тому +1

    I would take the special!

  • @oldmanlearningguitar446
    @oldmanlearningguitar446 2 місяці тому

    I mod Squiers but also own 3 & 4 thousand dollar guitars. I don’t expect my Squiers to equal custom shops but I do end up, sometimes, with excellent guitars at half the price with the specific features I wanted compared to higher end production guitars.

  • @sixstringthing1984
    @sixstringthing1984 2 місяці тому

    “Rosalina” the Brazilian Rosewood Les Paul

  • @ngsanfo7927
    @ngsanfo7927 Місяць тому

    K question. In the last bit, taking a squire and trying to make it better than custom shop (which you can't). But what about making an amp from a kit. I don't view electronics the same way cause it's just science. So could a tinkerer get close to say, a Two-Rock on their own with a Mojo Tone kit or no?

  • @189pinto
    @189pinto 2 місяці тому

    On the custom shop subject, I love them but one of my least favorite guitars I've played is a Fender Custom Shop set up with a Floyd / HSS. It wasn't fun and I don't think it was just the poor setup.

  • @marvinadn
    @marvinadn 2 місяці тому

    The guitar player/buyer that you missed is the lefty. Not a lot of choice except entry level or custom.

  • @darklight4815
    @darklight4815 Місяць тому

    My GAS has been flaring up a good bit lately 😮

  • @vonRabenfels
    @vonRabenfels 11 днів тому

    our desire is endless - buddhist quote

  • @bigbillex
    @bigbillex 2 місяці тому

    You should name it pinga, which is a famous brazilian spirit beverage. If ur feelin' exotic its also called Cachaça haha

  • @ryansuchodolski68
    @ryansuchodolski68 2 місяці тому +1

    Question guys…I’ve only been interested in electric guitars for all the years I’ve played, but now I’m thinking everyone should own at least one nice acoustic guitar. Do you guys have any acoustics?

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  2 місяці тому

      I have a 1955 Gibson J-50 it’s an absolute monster

    • @MatthewTimmons_Mythos
      @MatthewTimmons_Mythos 2 місяці тому

      I have a Taylor 327e - it's real nice but I've never truly bonded with it. Trying to fight off the urge to go deep into acoustics. It'll take over my life!

  • @Bastion71
    @Bastion71 2 місяці тому

    I dunno. Out of all the guitars I've owned over the years, I regret selling every single one of them. Ok, there was an 80s Roadstar that I don't really have any feelings about. But every other one... yeah, I wish I still had them. I'm also one of the modder guys. There's almost always something I want to change, even if it's only the knobs. I don't think I'm one of those "this squier is as good as a custom shop" guys, but more of a personlization kind of guy. Even if it's purely cosmetic, I just like making things the way I like them, putting my personal stamp on them. I DID have a badass MIJ Squier Tele that was heavily modified. And I definitely shouldn't have sold it.

  • @Smart-Alex
    @Smart-Alex 2 місяці тому

    The tone search ends when you decide that you've had enough chasing tone.

  • @matmarchi
    @matmarchi 2 місяці тому

    Hey, Mythos. Why you don’t ship to Brazil? 😢

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  2 місяці тому +1

      I can update our site :)

    • @matmarchi
      @matmarchi 2 місяці тому

      @@MythosPedals That would be great. As soon as I can select Brazil on the Shipping, I will buy a Mjolnir. HAHA

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  2 місяці тому +1

      @@matmarchi Updated!

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic 2 місяці тому +3

    Mm hmm. Yeah yeah yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm yeah.

  • @vinnievidi1
    @vinnievidi1 2 місяці тому

    You can call the Brazilian “Ipanema”

  • @betty4774
    @betty4774 2 місяці тому

    20k gtr! o.O

  • @mrskullman40
    @mrskullman40 2 місяці тому

    Brazilian.... Blanka (Street Fighter character)

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  2 місяці тому +2

      I like this one!

    • @mrskullman40
      @mrskullman40 2 місяці тому

      @MythosPedals I've got a whole bucket of useful crap like this rattling in my head hmu anytime 🤣

  • @NewPraetorianBlues
    @NewPraetorianBlues 2 місяці тому

    "I don't intend to buy a guitar today"
    *$20,000 later*

  • @martygraw1406
    @martygraw1406 Місяць тому +1

    15 minutes in and no mention of a pedal.

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  Місяць тому

      This is a general guitar podcast, we talk a lot about pedals on other episodes.

    • @martygraw1406
      @martygraw1406 Місяць тому

      @@MythosPedals I love you guys. I watch your weekly gear update. I watch dipped in tone. I even watch the show where you tell me all the plastic on my Les Paul is wrong. It’s a 1969 deluxe.

    • @MythosPedals
      @MythosPedals  Місяць тому

      @@martygraw1406 I think you're bending my words there lol

    • @martygraw1406
      @martygraw1406 Місяць тому

      Don’t worry. I’ll keep watching

  • @stevesuv
    @stevesuv 2 місяці тому

    Hetfield has nuance?

  • @SteveSanchez0
    @SteveSanchez0 2 місяці тому +2

    The “just as good as” guys, are just mentally unstable lol.. it’s okay to like what you like, want what you want.. but there are tiers to this stuff and trying to convince other people how your epi or squier is just as good as, the line has to be drawn somewhere.. that crap needs to stop 🛑 ✋! Lmao

  • @gimiked8685
    @gimiked8685 28 днів тому

    Tone is bad for your finances.

  • @jeffdavidson3975
    @jeffdavidson3975 2 місяці тому

    The key is to be poor and unable to buy the gear you “need” haha

  • @sexyrotekatze
    @sexyrotekatze Місяць тому

    thanks for sharing