Congrats Andy!!! It turned out just beautiful!!! Been eagerly awaiting this video and was worth the wait! Thanks so much for the shout out too! Looked like everything went very smooth for you in this firing. That small bit of carbon you got is a great testament of how that pot was fired!
Oh I absolutely overshoot! I guessed around 30! Well, anyone can tell I dont do pottery hahaha The pot turned out fantastic! Its super cool that the pigment turned black, too! Thank you for the video Andy!
Howdy Andy , Great Video ! This is truly one of the best , “how to videos”, that will go down in history ! I watched this video twice, so far ! All of the care in building, shaping, smoothing , slipping, painting, drying & firing ! I am so happy to see you master the art of smothering & achieving reduced iron paint! I’m also happy to know that your 1st Tularosa Olla found a great home ! My guess was 12 coils , bcuz of the size you were going for ! Being sick is no joy, when one is doing what he loves best ! Great job & happy to see THIS video come out , please take care & keep them coming !!
Andy you have incredible talent and knowledge. Such a huge pot!!! It's exciting to see how much skill it takes to form a pot this shape and size. Wish I were closer so I could learn from you in person. Nova Scotia is a long way from Tucson. Congratulations o this milestone.
That is perfect,... If they come out any cleaner than that, In my opinion it would look less authentic,. We enjoyed this video a lot and absolutely love how that pot came out! Thanks for the mention and thanks for the lessons!
andy i loved how long this video was! the attention to each step in the process, with such beautiful shots taken too. i liked to hear the sounds of the scraping and shaping of the pottery. beautiful video and i would love to see more in this style!
That cleaned up really well. I think it may be your best one yet! And I guessed less than 10 coils, but you outsmarted me by making those upper coils smaller!
Brilliant! I guessed 12 coils initially. But you hyped it so much I thought I was too conservative so I changed my guess to 24 😆 That first pot breaking would have brought me to my knees!
I was going to a nearby lake and I tripped on a molehill, it turned out that I found the perfect yellow clay, I don't even need to add fine sand because it is perfect and I will soon start making figures and other things from it, incredible. 😊
I thought the pot was gonna be taller while I was guessing so i said "12." I was so happy when I saw your coils get a little smaller. You worked hard to get close to my guess- thanks Andy! I just found your channel not too long ago, so I wasn't aware of your previous tragedy. This pot looks so pretty! I'm hoping to get some rust to make my own iron paint. Maybe I'll be able to reduce it similarly one day!
I know it sounds selfish but I feel like this channel is a little personal hidden gem. I would love to get into this, once I get a firm handle on my other hobbies first lol! I've just begun wood working and not even enough to warrant being good at it. I was also thinking it would have taken 14 coils, close but no cigar!
I was close! I guessed 12! I build with much smaller coils, so if it where me it would be 20 to 30, but I knew you favored bigger ones so I guessed what I thought was a ridiculously low number and I still wasn't low enough!
The last time I tried firing pottery, all 10+ pieces I had made were destroyed by my prop rocks exploding. Two lessons learned: don't put all your eggs in one basket until you trust your technique, and don't use props that will explode. Andy, what types of rocks are generally safe? I used andesite, an igneous rock very common in the Madison Range of Montana. Edit: I forgot to say, amazing work!
Hi Andy! I follow you with great love from Romania. I timidly started to make pottery using wild clay from our area. I made a cup, which is ok, then a plate. I reached the polishing phase, everything went very well, but on the plate, on the 5th day, a small crack appeared at the top, at the edge. I used clay and sand 20%. I was going to burn it tomorrow. Do you think I can do something more, or can you tell me where I went wrong?
75, way off. Never done anything like this but getting very excited watching your videos. Found your channel after making a very thick, crude mug with my fist. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and process.
Really great work on the pot and lovely video! I guessed 10 coils - so close :) I imagine that drying pots evenly involved a great deal of re-wetting areas that are drying too fast. Seems to me that that is what children might've been tasked with.
Wow! The B/W jar came out beautiful. The ancients would be impressed! I think the reconstruction of your broken pot is rewarding too. I'm glad it was recovered. Great step by step instructions and cautions. I hope you're feeling better. PS: all the soil I see up on the rim is red. Are you going toward Show Low or just above Payson for white clay? A video on this search would be helpful.
Yes, most of the ground up there is red and yet there are a lot of layers of grey and whiteish clays all around. I have never found any above Payson but I have found many from Springerville over to Heber. Try Forest Road 107 near Willow Wash, there is a road cut in there with a million different colors of clay including many light shades of grey/white
Love what you are doing! Have you considered not covering your pots at the end of firing? I do a lot of barrel firing. We found that the white/light parts came out brighter when we stopped covering the barrel at the end of firings.
for hand painting spirals, consider rather than focusing on the two arms you are painting, focus on defining the negative space between them. In fact using a bit of leaf you could use it to define that edge, like a stencil, moving it as you go to keep the geometry consistent
I made myself a small pot this week, maybe 6-8" tall. This is my first real attempt at decorating with slip. I bought some colored clays of amazon (they're meant to be used as face masks!) and did some test firings to see what color they'll come out to. What really surprised me is how smooth the slip layer is, I haven't even stone polished it yet and it feels so nice.
7 coils, maybe 8. For drying I would have just put it upside down on top of the rim with a cloth underneath so that it could contract easily, and all parts get access to air in a similar way. Same thing for the firing, but I am guessing you put it right side up to keep the designs as clean as possible.
Yes, fired right side up because it is hard to get the bottom clean. But when drying the top is rather fragile, I could have broken the rim off if I had set it upside down, at least early on.
The clay you used for this pot is much lighter and greyer in color than the usual wild clay you use for your pottery. I almost thought it was Hobby Lobby B mix when you started patting the clay out. I guess this answers my question about whether light grey or slate colored blue-grey clays can be found in your region of Arizona. You said this clay was harvested around the Mogollon Rim so that sounds at least 4 hours north of your home area.
@@NayrbRellimer the Colorado Plateau is the place to find grey clays in Arizona. I try to use the appropriate clays that the ancient potters would have used. Since this type of pottery was made with grey clays above the Mogollon Rim, I am using similar clay. And this location is slightly less than 4 hours from my home.
Oh it's hard to say isn't it. It kind of depends on how soft the clay is, if it is very soft I will use very little pressure but if it has firmed up a lot I will really get after it.
It looks like each coil gives about 1 inch in height. I think the final pot is maybe 18 inches tall (excluding the neck) so maybe 25 coils to construct. The diameter of the pot is quite large, so a large portion will be used around that part.
You pose an interesting quandary: how did the ancients dry their pots uniformly? Would they have access to large amounts of grass or woven grass in Arizona? Perhaps they covered the pots in cover sherds. Anything to minimize airflow, rate of moisture loss, and heating. If you dampened the coverings, then they would humidify the pot somewhat uniformly, and as they dried they would dry the pot somewhat uniformly. Give it a try with a tall tubular pot. If the bedding of the pot were to rest on top of plant matter, then it should also be able to participate in the humidification and drying.
Good thoughts. Yes they had grass and woven matts as well as woven cloth. I have wondered about the use of damp cotton cloth but have never experimented with that.
yes, the ancient potters used these pots for cooking too. But the cooking pots are usually not decorated so don't catch our eye or get displayed in museums.
When anyone asks me how I fire my pottery without a kiln or make pottery without a wheel I tell them to watch your videos and subscribe to your channel
There are a million ways to do it, some prefer small coils and do amazing work that way. There is no right and wrong with pottery, just what works for each person.
@@AncientPottery I'm on the textile side of things and was thinking how I would do a coil basket that size, so I'm shocked that I guessed that well. Your pot turned out so beautifully!
I live about an hour east of Dallas. My land is full of beautiful clay that I would be happy to share. It is mostly red. All my firings come out black because I haven’t figured that part out yet.
@@cocoalb_22 Absolutely! Our little community is called Martins Mill if you want to check out logistics. We have a school, church, and a gas station that serves excellent cheeseburgers, and an interesting array of photos of all of the founding families along the back wall. Close to Canton, the giant Once a month flea market.
My 3 year old loves to watch you paint your pots, she always asks if “this is a video where Andy paints” keep it up! Paint more!
That's cool, I always have to speed up the painting or else it would be super boring.
That pot turned out absolutely gorgeous! Nearly perfect! Everything was so well presented in this video. Thanks for your hard work Andy.
Congrats Andy!!! It turned out just beautiful!!! Been eagerly awaiting this video and was worth the wait! Thanks so much for the shout out too! Looked like everything went very smooth for you in this firing. That small bit of carbon you got is a great testament of how that pot was fired!
Thanks Will. Let's see if I can bump up your subscriber count today, currently at 1.21K
Exactly!
Actually gave a little out loud "Yeahhhh" when I saw that white and black and, most of all, solid pot come out of the pit!!! So good
This heals my grief over the earlier Tularosa pot :) I think I'll adopt the nest idea, my big pot slumped. Great video.
Thanks Angela, I know a lot of people have expressed concern about that broken pot. Hopefully this makes it better.
The nest odea also helps with coffee mug handles especially
Terrific job and what a relief! The large sherds look like an important component. Thanks for the mention.
That's true, the larger the pot, the larger the needed cover sherds to get the job done
Oh I absolutely overshoot! I guessed around 30! Well, anyone can tell I dont do pottery hahaha
The pot turned out fantastic! Its super cool that the pigment turned black, too!
Thank you for the video Andy!
You're welcome, glad you enjoyed the video.
One of your best pots ever! It looks incredible!
Thanks so much 😊
Howdy Andy , Great Video !
This is truly one of the best , “how to videos”, that will go down in history ! I watched this video twice, so far ! All of the care in building, shaping, smoothing , slipping, painting, drying & firing !
I am so happy to see you master the art of smothering & achieving reduced iron paint! I’m also happy to know that your 1st Tularosa Olla found a great home !
My guess was 12 coils , bcuz of the size you were going for ! Being sick is no joy, when one is doing what he loves best ! Great job & happy to see THIS video come out , please take care & keep them coming !!
Thanks Cliff! You were so close with 12 coils.
Andy you have incredible talent and knowledge. Such a huge pot!!! It's exciting to see how much skill it takes to form a pot this shape and size. Wish I were closer so I could learn from you in person. Nova Scotia is a long way from Tucson. Congratulations o this milestone.
That is perfect,... If they come out any cleaner than that, In my opinion it would look less authentic,. We enjoyed this video a lot and absolutely love how that pot came out! Thanks for the mention and thanks for the lessons!
That's a good point. I hope you get some views from this. I am looking forward to your next video.
andy i loved how long this video was! the attention to each step in the process, with such beautiful shots taken too. i liked to hear the sounds of the scraping and shaping of the pottery. beautiful video and i would love to see more in this style!
Thanks, I will do more. Of course the length of the video is influenced by the size of the pot so the next may be a bit shorter.
Excellent result, and what a beautiful pot. Great video, loved seeing it start to finish, what a treat.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching
Congratulations! That is loveliness embodied.
Thanks
That cleaned up really well. I think it may be your best one yet! And I guessed less than 10 coils, but you outsmarted me by making those upper coils smaller!
Yes, thanks Dave. Those coils had to get smaller as the clay started wanting to sag, that is probably why my guess was short too.
Great work,Andy, remarkable
Greetings from Serbia
Glad you enjoyed it
Ive become a recent fan but love your channel. Funny educational and very interesting. Much love from Australia
Awesome! Thank you!
Wonderful to watch you make this pot, Andy, bravo👏 thanks for sharing!
👍 This is good video production: building up a pot combined whit the history of it's macking art. I like it! 👍
Thank you very much!
@@AncientPottery
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Brilliant!
I guessed 12 coils initially. But you hyped it so much I thought I was too conservative so I changed my guess to 24 😆
That first pot breaking would have brought me to my knees!
LOL, I over-hyped it. Occasional breakage is just a part of making pottery however distressing it is.
I was going to a nearby lake and I tripped on a molehill, it turned out that I found the perfect yellow clay, I don't even need to add fine sand because it is perfect and I will soon start making figures and other things from it, incredible. 😊
Beautiful piece of artwork! Wonderfully documented!
Many thanks!
I thought the pot was gonna be taller while I was guessing so i said "12." I was so happy when I saw your coils get a little smaller. You worked hard to get close to my guess- thanks Andy!
I just found your channel not too long ago, so I wasn't aware of your previous tragedy. This pot looks so pretty! I'm hoping to get some rust to make my own iron paint. Maybe I'll be able to reduce it similarly one day!
Congratulations, Andy. That's a beautiful pot and a really well executed production. Inspiring!
Wow, that came out so good! I'm beyond impressed 😍
Thank you!! 😊
Super fantastic !! What a great all around success Andy. Looks amazing
Thanks Jeff, this is probably my best reduction firing yet. I actually have a bunch of pots to refire so maybe I'll try again in a similar fashion.
Very beautiful pot! I had guessed 12 coils, so I guess I was close.
Very close
This is beautiful! Thanks for sharing this labour of love.
Beautiful work, I'm glad it came out intact
I know it sounds selfish but I feel like this channel is a little personal hidden gem. I would love to get into this, once I get a firm handle on my other hobbies first lol! I've just begun wood working and not even enough to warrant being good at it.
I was also thinking it would have taken 14 coils, close but no cigar!
I hope you can find time to try it after you are done with woodworking.
@@AncientPottery Oh I will more than likely take my first steps this summer if I'm being honest!
I was close! I guessed 12! I build with much smaller coils, so if it where me it would be 20 to 30, but I knew you favored bigger ones so I guessed what I thought was a ridiculously low number and I still wasn't low enough!
That's funny, I think most people over-guessed.
Andy, absolutely fascinating and informative.Thank you.
❤ Looks great 👍! Congratulations 👏. Thanks for sharing
Thanks
Fantastic result Andy..been a windy road getting there..Going to look good on your shelf
Thanks Steve, it will look even better on somebody else's shelf.
Marvelous work. Loved watching it from the Netherlands. Love to try it some day too.
Go for it!
What a success! Great video and thanks for the knowledge you share!
My pleasure!
The last time I tried firing pottery, all 10+ pieces I had made were destroyed by my prop rocks exploding. Two lessons learned: don't put all your eggs in one basket until you trust your technique, and don't use props that will explode. Andy, what types of rocks are generally safe? I used andesite, an igneous rock very common in the Madison Range of Montana.
Edit: I forgot to say, amazing work!
Beautiful results! A shame about the carbon deposit. Thanks for the video. Hypnotic credits with the spinning pot.
Thanks. Like someone said, the carbon spot makes it look more authentic.
Congratulations! I know you have struggled to get that reduction black! So glad for you!
Such beautiful work
Thank you so much 😀
yay! you did it! stunning work :)
Hi Andy!
I follow you with great love from Romania. I timidly started to make pottery using wild clay from our area. I made a cup, which is ok, then a plate.
I reached the polishing phase, everything went very well, but on the plate, on the 5th day, a small crack appeared at the top, at the edge. I used clay and sand 20%. I was going to burn it tomorrow. Do you think I can do something more, or can you tell me where I went wrong?
Thank you. Could it be that you allowed it to dry unevenly? ua-cam.com/video/Vy4aBvs1a-M/v-deo.htmlsi=JmkaS7-FdbPC8GFf
@@AncientPottery Thank you!
75, way off. Never done anything like this but getting very excited watching your videos. Found your channel after making a very thick, crude mug with my fist. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and process.
I just finished watching your previous attempt and I’m so happy to see you trying again!
I guessed 10 coils!
Awesome video 👍
Thank you 👍
Really great work on the pot and lovely video! I guessed 10 coils - so close :) I imagine that drying pots evenly involved a great deal of re-wetting areas that are drying too fast. Seems to me that that is what children might've been tasked with.
Awesome Andy,I'm thinking of making a large scale pot like yours,not as big though
Go for it!
Beautiful pot!
Thank you! 😊
Wow! The B/W jar came out beautiful. The ancients would be impressed! I think the reconstruction of your broken pot is rewarding too. I'm glad it was recovered. Great step by step instructions and cautions. I hope you're feeling better. PS: all the soil I see up on the rim is red. Are you going toward Show Low or just above Payson for white clay? A video on this search would be helpful.
Yes, most of the ground up there is red and yet there are a lot of layers of grey and whiteish clays all around. I have never found any above Payson but I have found many from Springerville over to Heber. Try Forest Road 107 near Willow Wash, there is a road cut in there with a million different colors of clay including many light shades of grey/white
@@AncientPottery awesome. Thank you.
Beautiful!! 😍
Love what you are doing! Have you considered not covering your pots at the end of firing? I do a lot of barrel firing. We found that the white/light parts came out brighter when we stopped covering the barrel at the end of firings.
for hand painting spirals, consider rather than focusing on the two arms you are painting, focus on defining the negative space between them. In fact using a bit of leaf you could use it to define that edge, like a stencil, moving it as you go to keep the geometry consistent
That is your best reduced iron paint!
Yes, now to see if I can do it again.
I made myself a small pot this week, maybe 6-8" tall. This is my first real attempt at decorating with slip. I bought some colored clays of amazon (they're meant to be used as face masks!) and did some test firings to see what color they'll come out to. What really surprised me is how smooth the slip layer is, I haven't even stone polished it yet and it feels so nice.
That sounds cool. Do those clays keep their colors through the fire?
7 coils, maybe 8. For drying I would have just put it upside down on top of the rim with a cloth underneath so that it could contract easily, and all parts get access to air in a similar way. Same thing for the firing, but I am guessing you put it right side up to keep the designs as clean as possible.
Yes, fired right side up because it is hard to get the bottom clean. But when drying the top is rather fragile, I could have broken the rim off if I had set it upside down, at least early on.
YES!!!!
The clay you used for this pot is much lighter and greyer in color than the usual wild clay you use for your pottery. I almost thought it was Hobby Lobby B mix when you started patting the clay out. I guess this answers my question about whether light grey or slate colored blue-grey clays can be found in your region of Arizona. You said this clay was harvested around the Mogollon Rim so that sounds at least 4 hours north of your home area.
@@NayrbRellimer the Colorado Plateau is the place to find grey clays in Arizona. I try to use the appropriate clays that the ancient potters would have used. Since this type of pottery was made with grey clays above the Mogollon Rim, I am using similar clay. And this location is slightly less than 4 hours from my home.
Cranking the corn grinder is a heavy duty job lol thanks for your work
You're welcome, I have to get my exercise somehow
When you are scraping, how much pressure are you using? I think I'm scraping too hard. It's hard to figure out the right pressure.
Oh it's hard to say isn't it. It kind of depends on how soft the clay is, if it is very soft I will use very little pressure but if it has firmed up a lot I will really get after it.
Great job
A MASTERPIECE! Thank's for sharing! What can I use if I don't have mosqito sap?
Looks great
It looks like each coil gives about 1 inch in height. I think the final pot is maybe 18 inches tall (excluding the neck) so maybe 25 coils to construct. The diameter of the pot is quite large, so a large portion will be used around that part.
I was WAY off, almost doubles the amount 😅
The problem was you overestimated the height, the pot is closer to 12 inches high.
Well done good sir !
Thanks
You pose an interesting quandary: how did the ancients dry their pots uniformly? Would they have access to large amounts of grass or woven grass in Arizona? Perhaps they covered the pots in cover sherds. Anything to minimize airflow, rate of moisture loss, and heating. If you dampened the coverings, then they would humidify the pot somewhat uniformly, and as they dried they would dry the pot somewhat uniformly. Give it a try with a tall tubular pot. If the bedding of the pot were to rest on top of plant matter, then it should also be able to participate in the humidification and drying.
Good thoughts. Yes they had grass and woven matts as well as woven cloth. I have wondered about the use of damp cotton cloth but have never experimented with that.
Beautiful
Thank you
Thank you
GG It's beautiful!
Thanks! 😄
Gorgeous! ❤👍
I'm very curious, Okay I understand there are a lot of pots and decorative ceramics (plates, mugs and etc) are there any fry pans or casseroles?
yes, the ancient potters used these pots for cooking too. But the cooking pots are usually not decorated so don't catch our eye or get displayed in museums.
Congrats on the pot not breaking! Also my guess was 8 coils, not too far off!
42 coils
Very strong work there. I knew an Andy Ward from Arizona while serving in Alaska 89-91 are you related or maybe the same Andy?
Thsnkd. I have never been to Alaska
I guessed 10 to 12 coins. Now you inspireret me to try to make one. A big one. 😁
Good guess. Now do it!
Coils
When anyone asks me how I fire my pottery without a kiln or make pottery without a wheel I tell them to watch your videos and subscribe to your channel
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42 coil
I love watching your videos. My initial guess was 12 coils :)
I first thought 14, then revised to 20. I guess I was way over!!
Thanks for playing
If your ground is damp to wet will that hurt the firing
Trying to get into low tech ceramics specifically for making ollas around the garden, love to see it
I have heard it said that "low tech ceramics" is just another was of saying "primitive pottery"
I was WAY over, I guessed 16 coils.
I am new to this kind of pottery making and thought it would take 20 coils to make a pot this big!
Olways SUPER Qlt Sir: my Respects, perfect Job Art ...Clay
Thank you
3 minutes in, my guess is 17 coils 🤞love your work brother God bless
Ehhhh. I guessed 7 coils. I could tell by coil 4 that my guess was WAY off. Anyways, thanks for another great video!!
Thanks for watching and playing along
My guess was 27 coils. I guess my typical coils are way smaller, that might explain why I'm having hard time using the coil method.
There are a million ways to do it, some prefer small coils and do amazing work that way. There is no right and wrong with pottery, just what works for each person.
So beautiful...
Thanks a lot 😊
I don’t know poo about making ancient pottery, but I wonder if ancient peoples might have used sand to support vessels while they dried.
I guessed 12 coils - but thought I'd be WAY off.
That's pretty close
@@AncientPottery I'm on the textile side of things and was thinking how I would do a coil basket that size, so I'm shocked that I guessed that well. Your pot turned out so beautifully!
Not even close, I guessed 15 coils
She's a beauty.
Thanks
you have ruins?
i thought it'll be around 60 coils
Wow, way less. Thanks
I got 10! I really thought i was gonna be far off 😂
Nine coils is my guess 🤔
Would it be any trouble if I ask that you send me some clay dirt here to Dallas,TX? It's hard to find here.
I live about an hour east of Dallas. My land is full of beautiful clay that I would be happy to share. It is mostly red. All my firings come out black because I haven’t figured that part out yet.
@@margiegandy9189 omg, you must live in east Texas, I need some
@@cocoalb_22 Absolutely! Our little community is called Martins Mill if you want to check out logistics. We have a school, church, and a gas station that serves excellent cheeseburgers, and an interesting array of photos of all of the founding families along the back wall. Close to Canton, the giant Once a month flea market.
Thought it would take 10!
Have you seen where the Orientals water quench hot pottery
I guessed 8 coils. Sort of close.
Haha, I guessed 20!
I thought it would be 15 coils
Not quite that many