Leitmotifs in Mistilteinn, Tree Crown Without a Ruler (Magolor Epilogue)

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  • Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
  • WARNING: SPOILERS FOR MAGOLOR EPILOGUE
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    Tracks Used:
    -Mistilteinn, Tree Crown Without a Ruler - Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe
    • Mistilteinn, Tree Crow...
    -Town Theme - Team Kirby Clash Deluxe / Super Kirby Clash
    • (Old Upload) Castle Vi...
    -Ordeal! - Team Kirby Clash Deluxe / Super Kirby Clash
    • Ordeal Boss (Orchestra...
    -C-R-O-W-N-E-D - Kirby's Return to Dreamland
    • C-R-O-W-N-E-D - Kirby'...
    -Magolor, the Far-Flung Traveler - Kirby's Return to Dreamland
    • Magolor, the Far-Flung...
    -Road to Victory - Kirby GCN / Kirby's Return to Dreamland
    • Road to Victory - Kirb...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 104

  • @PaintraSeaPea
    @PaintraSeaPea Рік тому +217

    I've figured out what 3:17 is meant to be!
    It's got to be the Port Village theme from Super Kirby Clash, 34 seconds in: ua-cam.com/video/FMTiUAak130/v-deo.html

    • @PaintraSeaPea
      @PaintraSeaPea Рік тому +57

      I know some people have pointed out it sounds sort of similar to Welcome to the New World, but I feeeeellll like they would have made it a bit more obvious if that was the intention. All the other leitmotifs are pretty loud and clear here, and it makes more sense that they'd incorporate one of the town themes

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +35

      @@PaintraSeaPea ya that makes more sense

    • @TripodV3VO
      @TripodV3VO Рік тому +23

      GOD I LOVE KIRBY

    • @timothybass2609
      @timothybass2609 Рік тому +15

      @@StevePiPi I thought is was From Moonstruck Blossom, and it would make sense due to Taranza’s importance in TKCDX.😅

    • @oghcuteanimationhq5121
      @oghcuteanimationhq5121 Рік тому +3

      It totally is

  • @FrostyTheNightmare
    @FrostyTheNightmare 7 місяців тому +23

    A Kirby final boss without leitmotifs is like having cookies without milk, like Tom without Jerry.

    • @Treeman3
      @Treeman3 3 місяці тому +3

      Tom and jerry without music

  • @ttgb2990
    @ttgb2990 Рік тому +205

    The use of leitmotifs in this song is absolutely insane. I would've only recognized the C.R.O.W.N.E.D. segments because of how much I've heard that song

    • @TheGamerninja15
      @TheGamerninja15 Рік тому +3

      I agree, if I'm being completely honest the only good parts of this song are the C-R-O-W-N-E-D parts only

    • @kirbyperson1228
      @kirbyperson1228 Рік тому +3

      Same

    • @TheGamerninja15
      @TheGamerninja15 Рік тому +1

      @@kirbyperson1228 glad you agree

    • @TripodV3VO
      @TripodV3VO Рік тому +2

      @@TheGamerninja15 how

    • @TheGamerninja15
      @TheGamerninja15 Рік тому

      @@TripodV3VO the trumpets my friend, THE TRUMPETS!

  • @CodeKirby
    @CodeKirby Рік тому +50

    Do you ever just hear like 4 notes and then proceed to dig through the entire kirby OST to see what it is?
    *this video helps cure that, thanks*

  • @toastcrunch3728
    @toastcrunch3728 Рік тому +176

    I'm glad you made this. The use of leitmotifs in kirby is crazy and nobody seems to cover it.

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 4 місяці тому +4

      The series has some of the best use of leitmotifs period

  • @minatokurasou7106
    @minatokurasou7106 Рік тому +121

    With the leitmotifs of Mistilteiin, Tree Crown Without A Ruler, and the entirety of Magolor Epilogue, seems like was a great prologue to Team kirby Clash Deluxe and Super Kirby Clash, with Kirby's Return to Dreamland/DX, and I guess Magolor Ex and Magolor Soul are canon now, like Drawcia Soul and Chaos Elfilis.

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +16

      ya i was wondering why they used magolor soul in epilogue intro cutscene

    • @minatokurasou7106
      @minatokurasou7106 Рік тому +22

      @@StevePiPi Yeah, I mean people still tell me that this mode, magolor Epilogue is "non-canon", and for me at least, its canon, as Magolor Soul appeared in the intro of the sub game and this would explain Magolor's moveset in Star Allies.

    • @4bitsvideos326
      @4bitsvideos326 Рік тому +12

      ​@@minatokurasou7106 Magolor Epilogue is canon. It just means elements from the Extra Mode is canon, as it isn't too different from the normal mode except some new bosses plot wise.

    • @TripodV3VO
      @TripodV3VO Рік тому +9

      @@4bitsvideos326i like to think that bosses like whispy woods ex aren’t canon but they can technically do those moves, however stuff like landia ex, lor ex, magolor ex, and magolor soul are canon (maybe also the doomers’ ex variants and hr-d3)

    • @jamiegameplaythrough9485
      @jamiegameplaythrough9485 Рік тому +5

      ​@@StevePiPi Can you please do this for Settling a Score- Atone for One's Misdeeds?

  • @TheSmashWaffle
    @TheSmashWaffle Рік тому +83

    3:17 is awfully reminiscent of "Welcome to the New World" from Kirby and the Forgotten Land.

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +42

      i noticed that too after making it, if its intentionally a New World leitmotif that would be a cool connection to Fecto Elfilis

    • @lunathekuduruk1311
      @lunathekuduruk1311 Рік тому +13

      ​@@StevePiPi if it really is then it confirms that the background is forgotten land

    • @PaintraSeaPea
      @PaintraSeaPea Рік тому +47

      @@lunathekuduruk1311 i definitely think its meant to be Egg Engines (identical architecture, and also you can see ruined buildings in some parts of Dangerous Dinner) but the resemblence to the New World is there. I'd guess that it's implying they colonized Halcandra after leaving their home

    • @fawkewe
      @fawkewe Рік тому +5

      @@PaintraSeaPea also makes sense considering the last level was the Egg engines chase

  • @Taypokemon
    @Taypokemon 5 місяців тому +11

    We really we more people making Kirby Leitmofi videos, they are really everywhere

  • @SillySausage543
    @SillySausage543 Рік тому +30

    No way! Biblicaly accurate whispy woods

  • @lytmeowtif
    @lytmeowtif Рік тому +52

    the bit where you go "Idk if this is a leitmotif" sounds a lot like Ready to Go! from Forgotten Land which I WOULD dismiss as a coincidence, but Magolor's second form always had wings that looked a lot like Fecto Elfilis's ears and Magolor's Another Dimension portals always looked identical to Elfilis's, a connection which the branches and leaves of Mistilteinn seem to really double down on. it vexes me...

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +15

      Ya I think you're on to something, it definitely reminds me of Ready to Go! (and the change in percussion combined with the organs make it sound similar to Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit). If that really is the leitmotif there, then Fecto Elfilis's powers harnessed by the ancients may have been used to create the Master Crown itself.

    • @lytmeowtif
      @lytmeowtif Рік тому +4

      @@StevePiPi See, that makes a lot of sense to me and I would have just assumed that from the start if it weren't for the fact that Void's most explicit connection to the rest of the lore (stronger than even the Dark Matter and Kirby stuff) is the way it summons multiple Master Crowns throughout the battle.
      I like the idea of Fecto Elfilis not just being another reincarnation of Void though, so I think my current theory is that the Ancients crossed over to the mainline Kirby universe and attempted to use Void to recreate Fecto Elfilis's powers in a way they could control, only for it to backfire and create an artefact just as malicious and possess-y as the one they left behind in their home dimension.

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +3

      @@lytmeowtif same, I always thought that the ancient's Fecto tech was the origin for a lot of magical artifacts (especially stuff like the Lor Starcutter and NOVAs which can open dimensional rifts)

    • @thunderthepikachu150
      @thunderthepikachu150 Рік тому +2

      Both fecto and the crown need a host to function

    • @scatterbrain8764
      @scatterbrain8764 Рік тому +7

      This may technically be unrelated, but also now in the remake, it's stated that the Sphere Doomers had a different form and used to be able to open dimensional rifts by themselves, with their motive for grabbing the Energy Spheres, Lor's mast and the Fruit Fragments presumably being to get that power back.
      I dunno about any of you, but given what we know about the dimensional rifts in Return to Dreamland (from the Master Crown or otherwise), that leads me to believe the Sphere Doomers may have been some form or subspecies of Fecto. And if that is the case, then the fact that the Master Crown summons Dippas, Darpas, Dupas and Deppas - enemies noticeably similar to the Doomers in appearance - may be another possible connection.

  • @Matt_364
    @Matt_364 Рік тому +21

    I did not know there were kirby clash leitmotifs in this song, thats neat considering the credits after the boss

  • @fawkewe
    @fawkewe Рік тому +11

    2:32 even though its technically the same leitmotif im pretty sure this in particular is supposed to be the Opening Cutscene of Return To Dreamland. the worlds first introductuion to Magolor. This rendition is also used in the original games credits.

  • @blueberry_borb
    @blueberry_borb 2 місяці тому +3

    For having such a fresh unique sound, this piece has some incredible thematic elements and storytelling!! Absolutely obsessed with it. Thanks so much for making this video, I love analyses like these.

  • @TripodV3VO
    @TripodV3VO Рік тому +11

    4:23 this might also be a road to victory/a visitor from afar leitmotif

  • @beanio12
    @beanio12 Рік тому +24

    Can you please do a video like this for other Kirby boss music? Almost every final boss theme in the series has leitmotifs all over the place and having a video that lays them all out like this is amazing!

    • @SGrailadventure2004
      @SGrailadventure2004 8 місяців тому +1

      Especially Kirby: Triple Deluxe final bosses theme

    • @emblemblade9245
      @emblemblade9245 4 місяці тому

      Even Marx’s theme uses a recurring melody from Kirby Super Star

  • @flordelizapacifico4022
    @flordelizapacifico4022 Рік тому +17

    I just realized this, but 2:26 until 2:36 is the theme when choosing a Quest to play in SKC/TKCDX. The melody of both sound REALLY similar. Might be wrong, though.
    Edit: Here's the link to the video. The leitmotif is 1 second in.
    ua-cam.com/video/aoWG-epUhIA/v-deo.html

  • @ClockwerkSamurai12
    @ClockwerkSamurai12 Рік тому +13

    Still hard to believe the Gem Apple tree and Mistilteinn are one and the same..

    • @hcn6708
      @hcn6708 Рік тому

      They’re not the same, the Gem Apple Tree is not the Crowned Apple Tree

    • @goobsmacked_
      @goobsmacked_ 6 місяців тому

      it would be funny if every so often magolor sideeyes the tree, just in case a remnant of the master crown attacks once more...

  • @RHVGamer
    @RHVGamer Рік тому +14

    WOW this song is good

  • @Leaffyleaff
    @Leaffyleaff Рік тому +7

    0:04 those vocals remind me so much of Two Planets Approach the Roche Limit, and I wonder if it's meant to resemble it
    Btw, great video!

  • @segafan1316
    @segafan1316 Рік тому +7

    Oh damn, I didn't notice the first bit of Road to Victory. Nice catch!

  • @littlefox_100
    @littlefox_100 8 місяців тому +2

    Kirby music always makes me emotional..

  • @SGrailadventure2004
    @SGrailadventure2004 8 місяців тому +3

    Kirby’s Return to Dreamland Deluxe feels like a ‘merge’ game of Team Kirby Clash Deluxe / Super Kirby Clash as well as Kirby and the Forgotten Land tbh. This music and the Two Planets Approach the Roche Limits have a very simliar instruments (especially the violins) while using the leitmotifs of their respective games

  • @lunadachi4792
    @lunadachi4792 Рік тому +6

    Waited so long for one of these.

  • @DRjaffy
    @DRjaffy Рік тому +7

    Amazing video! Ive been wanting content like this for years with kirby! Please make more of these, it does such a great job at showing how complex and well thought out the music is, along with showing all the motifs that go into a song for people who have a hard time deciphering that.

  • @PrDrNintendo
    @PrDrNintendo Рік тому +8

    The Road to Victory part also sound similar to Sky Tower, which makes since I think Ando mentionned the two songs were like the dark and light side of the same song (or at least I think I read something like this on the WiKirby)

  • @l1ghtd3m0n3
    @l1ghtd3m0n3 Рік тому +4

    I swore there was a Green Greens leitmotif in here. Every modern Kirby final boss has one.

    • @KycenPetersen
      @KycenPetersen 9 місяців тому +2

      I think only the one's that directly relate to Kirby have Green Greens in them. Unless they're not gonna do that anymore given HAL stated in an interview that after Star Allies they'll be starting a "new era of Kirby".
      Two Planets and Mistilteinn are the two new final boss themes of this "era" and are missing Green Greens so the "new era" idea could be the case.

  • @missingjerry6720
    @missingjerry6720 Рік тому +3

    You should make more of these, I’d eat them up personally

  • @t00nbink
    @t00nbink Рік тому +5

    Definitely my favorite final boss and favorite boss theme, thanks for making this as I never recognized some of the parts of the song

  • @Prauwer
    @Prauwer Рік тому +5

    The editing is so well made! Thank you for finding all the motifs aswell

  • @KeebeThePlush
    @KeebeThePlush Рік тому +6

    Fire song, I hope to see many remixes and more

  • @kronost06
    @kronost06 Рік тому +2

    The fact that there are too many leitmotifs of Super Kirby Clash gives enough proof that the Kirby Clash storyline happens after the Magolor Epilogue

  • @bionichuteagain2583
    @bionichuteagain2583 Рік тому +3

    i feel like, while its not leitmotif specifically, theres some void termina theme dna in this song

  • @Milksi_bons
    @Milksi_bons Рік тому +4

    3:18 is from Forgotten Land-- Redgar Forbidden Lands ( or the main theme in general, referencing how it's yet again. In another dimension ! [ literally, not the actual dimensional road itself ] )

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +1

      a lot of comments said that, i didnt realize it was from Redgar tho

    • @BlueToadFan913
      @BlueToadFan913 Рік тому +1

      Sounds like a real stretch to me, respectfully, Redgar out of all things would be a confusing “thing to reference” choice and they probably would make it more Redgar sounding

  • @Beepogen
    @Beepogen Рік тому +9

    You forgot the Another Dimension leitmotif after the magolor traveler one

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +2

      timestamp?

    • @Beepogen
      @Beepogen Рік тому +2

      ​@@StevePiPi 2:25

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +3

      @@Beepogen i only hear the first 4 notes of another dimension, otherwise it sounds more like an improv / jazz section

  • @clownfr3d
    @clownfr3d Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this!

  • @karlmarx8687
    @karlmarx8687 9 місяців тому +1

    I always love to figure out which songs were used in the final boss ost! Nice video❤❤ Are you going to make the leitmotifs of roche limit too??

  • @MRMRMRMRMan
    @MRMRMRMRMan Рік тому

    I love the editing of this so much

  • @eprohoda
    @eprohoda Рік тому +5

    how is it going?!really great - farewell. Stevepipi,😮

  • @slimeboy2048
    @slimeboy2048 Рік тому +1

    1:15 What if this part that also appears in CROWNED is the Crown's own theme? Magolor has his own theme, and by the time you fight Magolor Soul, you're barely even fighting Magolor, you're fighting THE CROWN.
    Edit: WHAT IF the parts in CROWNED with Magolor's theme (the middle and the start) represent Magolor desperately trying to break free from the Crown's wrath?

  • @starberrysparkler
    @starberrysparkler Рік тому

    I always wanted to know just which leimotifs that were used in this theme, since I could only recognize a couple. Just goes to show how awesome the Kirby fanbase is. Thanks!

  • @boiseboi2007
    @boiseboi2007 Рік тому +3

    The music as Castle village is correct (but use ua-cam.com/video/VMMrlN_svLs/v-deo.html&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB as it it more accurate to the mainly used version), the BACKDROP is wrong (static.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/images/0/03/SKC_Village_Castle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190930062921&path-prefix=en is the correct one). Pls keep this in mind for your Crossing into the Parallel with You video.

  • @cleffa173
    @cleffa173 11 місяців тому +1

    Two words: Holy Shit.

  • @BAG3LS1
    @BAG3LS1 Рік тому +1

    Fire

  • @TGOArchive
    @TGOArchive Рік тому +2

    I mean- it make sense…

  • @Lotusborne
    @Lotusborne Рік тому +3

    I think You missed Crowned at 0:23, Pretty similar to the intro

    • @StevePiPi
      @StevePiPi  Рік тому +4

      That part sounds similar to crowned, but is missing a lot of the crowned motifs (no pizzicato violins and the notes aren't the same)

  • @MoGoBo97MovieMaker
    @MoGoBo97MovieMaker 11 місяців тому +2

    3:30

  • @lauziyi5728
    @lauziyi5728 Рік тому

    Too many leitmotifs

  • @TheGamerninja15
    @TheGamerninja15 Рік тому +3

    I just want to come clear that the only good parts in this song if I'm being honest are the C-R-O-W-N-E-D parts only

  • @unsmart42069
    @unsmart42069 Рік тому +1

    HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THAT INTRO

  • @PiegiXD_2319
    @PiegiXD_2319 Рік тому +7

    I was so happy to see Kirby Clash get even more recognition 🥲
    But it makes all the sense!! Because this is what happens right before Kirby Clash!!