Bang on! Its a giant lever against the inside wall of the shaft. The internal part need to be equal to or longer than the external, including the broadhead.
Not sure what this is for exactly.. you're shooting concrete wall which takes all of the kinetic energy and puts it back into the arrow. Arrows aren't meant to handle that..
Hokibukisa Some stump shoot with trad bows, some want to use arrow after pass throughs when they hit dirt/rock/tree, some want the arrow not to fail on impact of large bone. Trust and confidence in gear is everything plus the more durable an arrow the longer it will last.
I'll add to backcountry's reply and say that when you spend $12-$17 per arrow you want to know it'll be durable enough to stick around for a minute.... We're not all made of money so when we spend it we want to know our investment is sound.
I agree with Hokibukisa here. No animal has a shoulder as strong and solid as a concrete wall. If you think that an arrow is weak because it shot concrete and broke then maybe not shoot concrete.
You shot at an uneven surface, which means every impact had the potential to be vastly different in terms of force vectors. As such, this doesn't tell me much other than that the Gold tip appears to work well, but with an impact surface that is so uneven, a larger than normal sample size of data is required to clean any actionable information from this.
😂 This was the first thing that entered my head when I watched the video. I guess maybe it tests the limits of the different configurations but a brick wall in no way is similar to shooting an Elk, Bear or other game animal. Even if you manage to place a shot in the gnarliest area of the shoulder the bone is going to break apart and move in a way that the brick walls doesn’t. Maybe a good test for people who use brick walls as backstops for their targets?
Good information! I have been shooting these arrows for 3 years and I always find it when my arrow pass through or hits something hard, the tip either was bent out of alignment with the shaft or the connection with the outsert to shaft was warped or destroyed beyond usage. I lost a lot of these arrows this way. What solutions/outserts have you found that works without having to sand down the shaft to fit it like you did with the gold tip system?
PT Adventures Iron Will Outfitters has a Impact collar with a steel HIT insert that will work. If I wasn’t shooting Day Six arrows system that would be my go to.
I'm glad I don't hunt concrete walls. ;-)
Yea no shit. Shoots a block wall and blames the inserts lolol
Aluminum arrows give you more chances coming out of the woods than a broken arrow, coming in, empty or getting eaten by a bear
Bang on! Its a giant lever against the inside wall of the shaft. The internal part need to be equal to or longer than the external, including the broadhead.
Not sure what this is for exactly.. you're shooting concrete wall which takes all of the kinetic energy and puts it back into the arrow. Arrows aren't meant to handle that..
Hokibukisa Some stump shoot with trad bows, some want to use arrow after pass throughs when they hit dirt/rock/tree, some want the arrow not to fail on impact of large bone. Trust and confidence in gear is everything plus the more durable an arrow the longer it will last.
I'll add to backcountry's reply and say that when you spend $12-$17 per arrow you want to know it'll be durable enough to stick around for a minute.... We're not all made of money so when we spend it we want to know our investment is sound.
I agree with Hokibukisa here. No animal has a shoulder as strong and solid as a concrete wall. If you think that an arrow is weak because it shot concrete and broke then maybe not shoot concrete.
Thank you. Awesome video and the know about.
D West
How come you didn’t use a broadhead on the other 2 inserts
The new victory in/outserts are many times better.
thank you for this test
You shot at an uneven surface, which means every impact had the potential to be vastly different in terms of force vectors. As such, this doesn't tell me much other than that the Gold tip appears to work well, but with an impact surface that is so uneven, a larger than normal sample size of data is required to clean any actionable information from this.
Your surprised when they break after shooting them at a brick wall ??
I’m definitely in that strange part of you tube again
😂 This was the first thing that entered my head when I watched the video. I guess maybe it tests the limits of the different configurations but a brick wall in no way is similar to shooting an Elk, Bear or other game animal. Even if you manage to place a shot in the gnarliest area of the shoulder the bone is going to break apart and move in a way that the brick walls doesn’t.
Maybe a good test for people who use brick walls as backstops for their targets?
You and wrxified are clueless and obviously not archers.
I guess this could be useful information if I ever get the urge to hunt a solid block wall.
Really liked the video!!
I'm looking hard at the iron will insert/collar.
Would like to see same video but with Victory vap Ss
Been wanting to do that. I’ll try to get to that this year man. Thanks for watching.
Good thing I don't hunt a lot of concrete walls.
Good information! I have been shooting these arrows for 3 years and I always find it when my arrow pass through or hits something hard, the tip either was bent out of alignment with the shaft or the connection with the outsert to shaft was warped or destroyed beyond usage. I lost a lot of these arrows this way. What solutions/outserts have you found that works without having to sand down the shaft to fit it like you did with the gold tip system?
PT Adventures Iron Will Outfitters has a Impact collar with a steel HIT insert that will work. If I wasn’t shooting Day Six arrows system that would be my go to.
@@backcountrycache8528 Thank you! I will give that a look.
I guess the moral of the story is don’t shoot cinder blocks? I wouldn’t expect any arrow with any insert or outsert to survive. But it’s your money.
Love you bro 😂
what's the spine on the TKO and what GT insert size did you use? thinking of doing the same cause of your video.
havoc2125 300 GT collar, on 300 TKO. I had to sand the end a little bit to fit collar but nothing major. With a good epoxy definitely a solid setup.
What model is the gold tip arrow?
What type of gold tip insert were you using?
What kind of broadhead is that you have on your arrow?
Joel Graber Its Abowyer, 200gr, stainless steel. Stay away from the high carbon ones, they break at the ferrule.
What glue do you use to glue in your inserts?
Pine ridge insert glue.
dope video
No shot it broke our shooting at concrete da
you better know a good mason lol
ETHIC ARCHERY.
My guess is you're shooting it at a concrete wall ......duh
Like no shit, no arrow will survive that