The Porsche Boxter which began production in 1996 actually saved the company, not the Cayenne. The Cayenne did help in the revitalization of the company, but the Boxster saved them from bankruptcy.
Yeah I was totally expecting the Boxster when they were talking about how the company was failing in the 90s. The Boxster provided a change in direction when they were at the brink, then they really flourished with the Cayenne.
You’re missing the years 1989-1996. What saved Porsche was Mercedes-Benz contracting the design, engineering, and manufacturing of the 500E to Porsche. Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy and Mercedes handed them a lifeline.
You mention that Porsche today is owned by the Volkswagen group, but missed to mention that the Porsche family in a very bold offensive took over the whole Volkswagen Group majority.
51% porsche se holdings porsche Piech family run it Ferdinand piech made vw the empire it currently is he was a real car guy,not a bookkeeper,made audi quattro,first 4wd in production vehicles. Vw has 13 brands under its umbrella
I noticed 2 mistakes in the video: Stuttgart is today the capital of the federal state "Baden-Württemberg". But it was NEVER the capital of Germany or the German Empire. The capital since the founding of the German Empire until the split of Germany after the war in East & West was always Berlin. After that Berlin was still the capital of the DDR (East) & the capital of the BRD (West) was Bonn. After the reunification of Germany, Berlin is the capital for all of Germany. The Beetle officially got the name "Volkswagen" only after WWII. While the idea behind the Beetle was a "Volkswagen" (eng. People's Car) that pretty much everyone should be able to afford, the official name until the end of the war was "KdF-Wagen". Named after the National Socialist Labor Organization " Kraft durch Freude" - KdF (engl. Strength through Joy). Likewise, the original name of Wolfsburg, the city founded to build the "Beetle", was "KdF-Stadt". Only after the war the city got its present name.
Thanks for pointing out these important details, especially about the capital of Germany, huge mistake :0 I’ll be much more careful with these details, really hurts to publish a video with a mistake in it😭
An innovative company among many brought down in the sewer by a madman and his henchmen. Sad how much talent and life was ruined by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis!
After growing up watching Porsche compete in and dominate in motorsport, owning one was a goal I set for myself. As a teen, I owned a couple of Beetles, a '63 and a '66, and my first real job was at a Porsche-Audi dealership as a lot boy. The 917k, 935, 917/30, later the GT1, and most recently the 919 I've owned my '85 for nearly 30 years and still love it as much as the day I bought it. The Carrera's 3.2 is one of the best engines Porsche ever built. It's nowhere near as quick or fast as a new 911, but it's engaging, analog, visceral, and an absolute joy to drive.
As soon as I got some money to my name I went car shopping, test drove some GT3s and Turbo S and found them extremely boring and went straight to the Audi dealer and picked up an R8 Spyder. If Porsches were like 80k-100k they would be the best sports car ever but $250,000 for boring 2 door with a spoiler that every dentist has is never gonna happen for me I’m picking proper mid engined supercar for that price every single time.
As Jack Gerwig accurately pointed out, it was the introduction of the Porsche Boxster that pulled Porsche back from the brink of bankruptcy. Its mid-engine design and virtually even front to back weight distribution resulted in one of the most excellent handling sports cars the company has produced. The Boxster has continued to evolve over the intervening 27-years and is a significant performance vehicle in the company's history and present product line. Its omission is an oversight in the otherwise fascinating film that should not be overlooked.
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What saved Porsche was the fact that they - for the first time - used certain parts on several cars, reduzing costs. That's why the 996, the Boxster and the Cayenne share a lot of parts. So it was not the "Boxster saving Porsche" nor was it 996 or Cayenne - it was simply over due costs optimizing while having three absolute hit models in the show rooms.
One, slight error. During the competition for the design of the Tiger 1. Ferdinand Porsche developed what would be known as the VK 45 01(P) which was a turreted heavy tank. It did have the gasoline electric drive train. Porsche was pretty confident in his design so he had a number of hulls put together just in case he won, so he could start mass production easily. however the engine caused him to loose the bid. The hulls, so as not to go to waste were turned into the Ferdinand casemate tank destroyers. Many were destroyed due to the lack of anti infantry armaments, those that weren't destroyed in the eastern front would be retrofitted with a forward facing bow machine gun. These models would be later referred to as the Elephant.
Awesome video!! A couple things I didn’t see in the video 1. The attempts to make more affordable Porsches to make the company more profitable, 914, 924, 944 2. 928 was initially built to challenge the larger V8 cars built by American companies, and was originally slated to replace the 911, but the popularity was never there 3. The big initial thing to save Porsche in late 90s was the introduction of the more affordable Boxster, which also shared many parts and design with the 996, which was the first water cooled 911 in attempt to “modernize” the car. Also, Porsche trying to go for a more “modern” look Hired 1-2 former Toyota designers for the 996 and Boxster. While their numbers did go up, the design, specifically getting away from the round headlight design, make the 996 the least desirable of any 911 generation. The interior design had very little to be desired as well. 4. The Macan came much much later than the Cheyenne, and Porsche was already at a very profitable position by the time the Macan came around. 5. No mention of Porsche involvement with the Auto Union? 6. Stuttgart wasn’t the capital of German, either before or after the war. 7. Ferdinand was less “friendly” to Hitler than is portrayed in the video.
The funny part is when the Boxster was first sold it was far from affordable as the sky high demand and weak dollar made the hottest selling Porsche still more expensive than just about any non-exotic sports car and definitely the most expensive roadster. Pricing was what was killing the 911 in the 1990s as it was perceived as expensive to maintain and incredibly expensive to repair. I think by late 1998 the last 911 sold less than 1,200 units in all of North America...INSANE. Porsche dealerships were lonely places that year despite the USA economy being in a full blown bull market. The wealthy were buying 2 of everything except 911's. I read a story that Porsche couldn't even convince the auto show to keep the lights on when they ran late and tried unveil the 1993 Boxster concept car that's how much trouble Porsche was in. But from the moment the cover came off the Boxster it was on the front of every car magazine.
Read the book You Can’t Do Business With The Nazis by a member of the US trade Delegation in the ‘30s. You had to do business the way they said to do it and the cost was high. Dr. P was really only interested in staying in the engineering business.
When I was living in Honolulu, I had a place to live in a boat in the marina at Waikiki. One of my "neighbors" had a brown '79 911 SC Targa and he asked me to drive it at least once a week. The trouble was, I was completely broke most of the time, so I only drove it to the food bank, but had to park a few blocks away so as not to infuriate anyone who just wouldn't understand why a guy with a Porsche 911 was hitting up the food bank. Good times...
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My first car as a teen was a 1960 Beetle. It was that rusty red with a huge sun-roof. Loved that car!! One time I actually buried the needle out on the highway. I think the gauge went to about 70 or 80 mph. I was going downhill with the wind at my back. 😆
@@loganm.144 Which version? I mean regardless of the version its a keeper, I am interested because there are two versions of the 71, the 2.2 and the 2.4 The later being the 1st year of production. I love the 60's - 70's porsche body's I have a Carrera 4 GTS (2nd version), but I would still love to purchase one of the classics. The 356 is one of my dream cars, but the price is still quite high for me at this time
Many things left out of this video or actually incorrect as already mentioned but I'll add the Porsche Boxster is what saved them with volume sales in the 90's, and it doesn't mention the mid 70's when they almost went out of business as well, when the 914 and more so, the 924 saved them again with volume sales of cheaper vehicles.
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While I agree that it's laughably fictional, you probably shouldn't read too much into it politically. There's so much stock footage in here that they literally used a photo of the American made Tucker 48 @20:43
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No mention of Tatra, even though there are tons of pictures and footage of them in the video? Whoever edited this knows more than the person who wrote it.
The Original Tank that Porsche made for the Tiger Program was called Tiger (P). It failed so bad that the Tiger I was the overall winner. The 90 hulls were originally Tiger P but was then converted to Ferdinands Tank Destroyers. The Codename "Elefant" was another name for Ferdinand due to its installment of small upgrades but many of the German Soldiers didn't know the difference so they still called them Ferdinands.
Actually quite a few companies made electric cars back then it was just the fact that in colder climates they were practically useless and wouldn’t last very long
I drove a 911 Turbo for a year (2016) great car, had a lot of fun with it. Pretty much every large company has some skeleton(s) in the closet. As a car company, I think their product is fantastic. The Cayman is definitely interesting, I was tempted to buy one of the GT4 versions a few years back but it didn’t have the “daily driver” nature of a 911 Turbo and thus had to pass. I still think the 911 Turbo is one of the greatest cars ever made, you can grab groceries in it, pickup kids from school, drive in the snow etc.
"Every large company has some skeletons in the closet" nonsense, that is if you're willing to turn a blind eye to Ford and GMC (if I'm not mistaken) suing the US government for damages caused to their manufacturing plants in Europe by allied bombers during WWll. Mfg plants who were supplying the Nazi regime.
I've owned 4 Porsches in my driving history, including the iconic '59 RSK 718 Spyder. There was no mention in this video about the Spyders doing so well on the track with fantastic handling, reliability, being race cars that could outdrive and outlast larger cars, with larger engines. Race results is probably what brought lots of street drivers into Porsche showrooms.
I’m a little disappointed about the fact you didn’t mention the fact the 911 was almost named the 901 but Peugeot that threatened to sue as they owned the rights to 3 digit car names with a 0 in the middle. e.g. 502, 901, etc…
And again GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! Wrong in the 1920 to 1930 periode, wrong in 1947 to 1972 and again 1986 to 1993 periode. And again wrong concerning the Cayenne introduction motives. I am the great grand son of Ferdinand Porsche. Nice try, but there are many more correct sources out there.
when you mentioned the motorsports portion of The 911 section most of the wins were done by non-911 cars like the 910, 908, 906, 917, 962, 956, 907, 718, etc.
Actually in the GT classes Porsche has many many wins with 911 variants and when you add up those wins, this is how Porsche is able to claim that they have more motor racing wins than any other car manufacturer. Without those wins, my understanding is that Ferrari is able to claim the most wins (when only counting the very highest levels of endurance racing and F1).
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It's a shame the co existence of Hans Ledwinka wasn't mentioned as its pivotal to Porsche early years of auto engineering. Ledwinka and Porsche and both designed, air-cooled engines, swing axles, backbone chassis and pear drop aerodynamical shape.
I agree, Ledwinka's ideas were certainly "employed" by Porsche in his designs of the volkswagen and the Auto Union GP cars, great engineer though he was in his own right.
Ledwinka and Porsche were cellmates in jail. This is when Porsche was educated in modern automobile design. Porsche failed miserably creating an armoured tank prototype for Hitler.
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I'm German and I'm very close to Porsche manufactures/factories. Question to y'all: if your government, wherever you are, calls out to switch into war industry for all companies of all branches- which of your current companies would resist and say: No.. we rather close our company instead of going on producing? Please be honest to yourself by answering this simple question. Germany has been reduced so often and up to date for these 12 dark years we went through... not considering the very good things which were coming before and after those twelve years. Doing the maths nobody of the current employees at one of the accused companies was born before the 1950ies-me I was born in the 70ies... so what's my take on any involvement in the 1930ies? There's no generational guilt and if somebody claims there is then please do the research about your own home country. I'm not trying to insult anyone but I'm just tired of carrying a burdon which is not me nor mine.
Exactly! Stealing the pre-existing Tatra designs and then getting the lawsuit thrown out when his pal Adolf invaded Czech. And truly glossing over how supportive Ferdinand Porsche truly was of the Nazi party.
Great video but you never mentioned Ferdinand Piech who was a brilliant engineer and a very talented company executive who designed many of their cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Mainly the famous 917!
No point in picking a specific example, when it's clear the entire video is mostly movie scenes that have nothing to do with what is being talked about.
In 1985, when I was 16 years old, my uncle took me to a baseball game in his brand new 911. From that day, I fell in love with that car and became determined to own one of my own. Two months ago, that dream became a reality when I bought my 911 Turbo S. It took 39 years, but it’s just as great as I dreamed it would be to drive one.
I dont think that its disturbing past for the company but rather an inspiring one, actually id love to buy one now because of its great history 👍 respect to them
1 mistake I noticed in the video was when you mentioned the Ferdinand Heavy Tank destroyer as a Tiger prototype from Porche. The Tiger tank Porche introduced to H!tler was the Tiger P.
I have a 1995 911 turbo and parked in drunk in one of my fields. Still haven't bothered to go find it. Anyway, my Cherry red 911 targa 4S turbo 2023 finally arrived. Really enjoying it so far. I'll at least keep driving it regularly for 6-8 months before giving it to my nephew or someone that likes a car with over 10,000km
Though you were fairly accurate about Porsche’s early history, it was the Boxster 986 that really saved the company from bankruptcy, the SUV was only part of the solution way after the Boxster’s introduction in early to mid 1990’s auto show.
Indeed. He completely went from 1993 to 2002... as if in 9 years Porsche somehow did nothing and still didn't go bankrupt. The video has more errors in it than factually correct information.
Porsche , the M-B racing engineer, actually first met Hitler (a Mercedes owner) at the Solitude racetrack SW of Stuttgart in 1924 after Hitler was released from prison.
September 1963, The Porsche 901 was displayed at the IAA in Frankfurt . When they went to the Paris Motor Show in 1964, Peugeot objected to the model designation. 82 units of the 901 were produced before the name change.
One of the highlights of my young life was when my friend Johnny took his fathers red Porsche 928 from DC to college park Maryland down interstate 95 . At times we were going 160 mph and it was like time slowed down . We made it in what seemed like 30 minutes . That was fun ! We went to car shows all over with his dads Ac Bristols , Jaguars , and Mg's . He had an MG twin cam that was best in the country at the time . Good times in the early 80s .
Author, please make some corrections to the video, accusing Porsche being a friend of hitler is a big mistake. Also, note that Porsche being a genius engineer deliberately designed his “weapons” the way they are not operable and couldn’t serve the Wehrmacht. After all this happened many testimonials said Porsche was against the regime and did his best to serve humanity helping others to rescue and save lives working at his factory. I feel this is important to add as it completely changes the image of this noble historical person.
Ernst Heinkel knew Ferdinand Porsche quite well. He remarked his surprise how Porsche's management used to keep Ferdinand busy in the workshop tinkering with engines while they ran his business for him.
What really saved Porsche from bankruptcy in the early 90s, long before the Cayenne was built, were two development and manufacturing collaborations, one with Audi and one with Mercedes, resulting in the Audi RS2 and the Mercedes (E) 500, both of which were built at the Porsche factory. And the two each began to sell like hot cakes, taking enough pressure off Porsche to be able to avoid filing for bankruptcy. It was only then that they were also able to look to the future and put efforts into designing the Cayenne.
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You didn't suggested at all that Porsche stole the Beetle design from Hans Ledwinka who designed the Tatra v570 prototype. Well they both know each other both consulted their designs but the Tatra prototype existed earlier
The most disturbing thing in this "history" video is the omission of the man who designed the sheet metal from the VW Beetle to the 356, 550, 911, and 904- Erwin Komenda. NOT Ferry. Hired at the outset by Ferdinand, fired in 1962, died in 1964. The classic photo from 1948 (when the first 356 rolled out of the barn in Austria) was eventually cropped to eliminate Komenda from the "history".
Great video, but I noticed you perfectly started to lead into the creation and importance of the Boxster in the 90s, but ended up totally jumping to the 2000s to talk about the Cayenne .... was really surprised that was left out, especially considering how well known the significance was in preventing their bankruptcy.
Great video but you’ve not mentioned Hans Ledwinka and his collaboration on KdF Wagen. You missed out on Anton Piech amongst others. Volkswagen was preceded by Ledwinka’s Tatra
Porsche stole the design for the Peoples car from Tatra, a Czech company, rear engine, air cooled, which later became the Beetle and the 911. Porsche settled out of court with Tatra….look it up. 😢
Hitler actually encouraged Porsche to create something similar to what Hans Ledwinka was doing, because he had great respect for the Tatra 87 and saw it as the best example of what a fast car for his Autobahn should look like.
It is known fact that Porsche family chosen Czechoslovak nationality when Hungarian Austrian empire was dissolved. Ferdinand Porsche was forced by Nazis to become German for their own motives. That area is ever so interlinked and both Germans and Czech have always passionate by engineering and design.
In my opinion the reason that approximately 70% of 911s are still on the road isn’t because of their reliability. It’s because they are so valuable and unless the vehicle is a total loss due to damage they will be fixed.
@@sonnylatchstring really? How often do you see a half a million dollar Ferrari or Lamborghini on fire on social media? The thing that makes them valuable is the rarity and prestige that comes with owning a super car. Also there is the fact that they are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars brand new. Reliability has nothing to do with it or VW beetles would be worth more then any super car around because they are reliable.
They are around thanks to idiotic hipsters who don't buy quality but brands so they can satisfy their low self esteem complexes and lack of common sense so as sense of having an actual life. Same can be said for every brand that comes from Germany from day 1, they are around because enough number of idiots keep buying the same trash.
@@scottgoodwins The 3.0 flat six introduced in the 1976 930 and used in later years in non turbo SC engines have gone as long as 300,000 miles without major problems.
Also in 1988, Porsche was one of the first auto manufacturers, if not the first, to come out with a Tip-o-tronic transmission. I remember reading that from a Road & Track magazine article from that time.
You've taken a few liberties in your narrative. But like they say, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. Like many have mentioned before me, it was the Boxter that preceded the Cayenne by 6 years that saved Porsche. The Boxter design was a throwback to the past, inspired by the 356 Cabriolet Speedster and 550 Spyder. And it was this nostalgic link that reignited the motoring public's love affair with Porsche. Previous attempts to modernize don't even get a mention like the 924, 944 and 948. But it was the interpretation of Ferdinand's jailing by the French that devalued the story line for me. You don't think the French had a pecuniary motive to protect their motor industry by jailing such a brilliant automotive innovator under the guise of war crimes? Still an interesting story without the dramatic overtones and omissions.
14:23 The Ferdinand was the result of the 100 PROTOTYPE Tigers that failed in the contest, but needed SOMETHING done with them. They WERE NOT the Porche entry into the Tiger contest, and were substantially redesigned and rebuilt to BECOME tank destroyers. The Elephaunt was a later change to the design to add some anti-infantry protection machine guns - but otherwise was THE SAME vehicle.
Hitler wanted a tank design to work with 8.8 cm flak gun that had started being used to great effect against tanks. Porsche and someone else competed to have their design used by the German army, in which Porsches prototype had an engine fire, among other major mechanical failures that caused it to lose misreably. Porsche had already created I believe 93 of the Porsche Tigers, and turned them into the "Ferdinand/Elephant" which was used on the eastern front. There are stories of Ferdinands failing in battle because of engine failure, including one where a Ferdinand had an engine fire due to trying to get a better position on a hill. Porsche Tigers/Ferdinand's were HATED by the German army.
@@aperson8025 The Ferdinand, later Elefant (same vehicle, but had anti-person machine guns added) had more mobility losses and breakdown losses than combat losses. It WAS deadly - when it could get a shot off - having been upgraded to the LONG version of the 88 (71 calibre, same as the Tiger II/Kink Tiger, as opposed to the shorter 56 calibre the original Tiger was limited to). This gave it a higher speed shot, and more armor penetration than the Tiger, and is WHY the Germans were quite happy to upgrade to it instead of something "bigger" in the Tiger II (as opposed to the JS/IS the Soviets had started making by the end of the war). They may have been hated by the Germans - but they also had THE highest kill-loss ratio of the war for any German armored vehicle, at about 10 to 1. DESPITE the "underpowered" mobility issues and the unreliable badly overloaded transmissions that broke too often, that gun was DEADLY.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 I'm sure kill/loss is higher, but I think is a bit optimistic. We know that its not uncommon for people to inflate numbers, either based on thinking that they hit something or something else, we've seen it with the Americans reporting Tigers and world war II, and with the Russians reporting I forget how many HIMARS in Ukraine, despite only sound about a dozen and a half at first, and probably a lot more instances but those are the first two that come to mind right now. Also, I think that the gun probably might have been better off being used as an AT gun or towed rather than putting it on a stressed out super tractor, but how much do I know. Also kink tiger made me giggle a little at 4AM.
@@aperson8025 Trade off, those things were HARD to kill - even for the SU/ISU-152. There's reasons more were lost due to their own issues - where a towed anti-tank gun was vulnerable to even infantry once it fired and if it wasn't well camoflaged (sometimes even when it WAS and the infantry got lucky).
Congratulations on undertaking this video, which is a vast topic for a non-historian. It's particularly challenging, not just because of it's vastness, but because Porschephiles are some of the most ardent enthusiasts (some would say "fanatics") on the Planet.. a criticism for any infraction is sure to follow (e.g., not pointing out that the 911 was originally introduced as the "901", before they fell into legal naming problems with Peugeot). I did learn new info, which was that Ferdinand was involved with the SSK. Possibly the most important omission was the truly genius engineering done on the 1930's Auto Union V16. Here the old man went right to the best and most exotic solution demanded by physics; make it mid-engine with a mind blowing power plant. At the risk of receiving death threats, I'll state the obvious, Porsche never got back to that level until the introduction of 917. I am a child of the late 50's and 1960's. I was fortunate to grow up in a community that had annual road races and many, many exotic cars on the street. I never understood the contemporary mania around Porsche street cars. I now track a carbon equipped GT4 regularly, but sometimes people mistakenly think I am a Porschephile... no, it's just a well engineered, mid-engine car. Today, Porsche, even Lamborghini are just mass producing cars that are great, but just a little souless. If there are any vehicles that make me a "phile", they are the Italian V12s of the late '50s and 1960s (particularly the mid-engine V12 of 1967-73... made by a company that now produces SUVs). Sorry, it's just the period of my formative years. I'll turn on my security system now. Wait, one last thing... one of my duties as a responsible car enthusiast is to patiently and kindly explain to 911 owners, that car is not pronounced "Poorsh".
I would say with cars like the 911R and GT3 Touring Porsche has managed to give its cars some "soul" compared to its competitors but thats just my opinion shrug*
@@griffins750 I actually heartily agree, that's why I bought a GT4 when it first came out and track it to this day (versus buying another brand). It does everything perfectly. Like most all modern cars that are doing everything almost perfectly, there's a little bit of soul that's lost. It's also relative. I've owned two Miuras and still have one. You hit the ignition on that and you are carried to another place. Is it perfect? No. Does it have the same lap time as a modern Porsche? No. It has a soul that I think cannot be built today given all the legal restrictions. It was also a disruptive car when introduced, just like Dr. Porsche coming up with the Auto Union v16 in the 1930's.
@@gregorydahlen2103 Oh you own a Miura lmao ofc you're missing the "personality" A Porsche isn't a serial arsonist! Targeting only itself!!! Jokes aside if that's your baseline then that's totally understandable, in terms of "experience", an overload of the senses, sound, vibration, and horrifically flawed ergonomics the Miura will trounce a GT4 as you said. Where I disagree is in saying that one has more of a soul than the other, in my opinion, they both have "souls"(jesus this is getting near philosophical at this point), characteristics that make the cars unique, it's just that each one is very different, and I'd definitely agree that a Miura's is more vibrant, and more interactive than a GT4 or any new car tbh... Hopefully, you get what I mean, I think we both just have differing thoughts on the use of the word "soul" in regards to a car's character but I could be way off the mark with that...
@@griffins750 Yes, differing thoughts on the use of the term "soul". But I was asking for it ;-) One of my missions is to take as many young people for a ride in the Miura as I can... way too many are in private collections and no longer driven... sadly. For me F1 is also the same. It's just not the same. But that's laying another minefield for myself.
I've been fortunate to have owned two. My first was a '63 356, my second an '83 911SC which I had the pleasure of driving from Orlando FL to San Diego Ca then up the PCH and back to Orlando. Not to mention the Tail of the Dragon.
That was really, really interesting. Well done! I loved all the details of how Porsche actually designed the Beetle. What I felt was really missing is details on the development of the 928, which I think is a really stunning looking car. In terms of design, I think the 928 is my favorite car of all time.
I was one of the first people to ever drive the 928 right after they arrived from Zuffenhausen. I also remember the fact that i took a hammer and hit it on the back Bumper after which you did not even see a mark on it ! yet teh 924 looked like shit compared to the 28 and is an insult to the Porsche Brand
A 928 is your favourite car of all time?… Bro you can pick one up for like $2,500 it’s the most regular traffic car ever I think of a Chevy Cavalier as nicer…
Porsche did not win Le Mans until 1970. it did so with the all conquering five litre flat 12 917. This was to be the first of 16 overall wins, a record. In 1952 I assume what the film is referring to is a win in the the 2 litre production class with the 356. The 356 never used a stock VW engine, as claimed; it was highly modified and was soon a design in its own right, sharing only the boxer layout. The car was also far more than "only a variation of the Beetle." The car and the engine, although sharing design elements such as engine layout and rear (behind the rear axle) placement, was a Porsche, not a modified VW.
The three-piece case began as Porsche’s design for VW’s attempt at a diesel Beetle. But a 0-62 mph acceleration of 60 seconds killed the program. Porsche bought it back and successfully used it as a gas burner.
@@scottdelong1 the first 1.1engine was a "stock" VW engine, modified with higher compression and a slight larger intake valve getting almost 9hp more. (Some say 5hp) internals were the same.,
My grandfather worked as vehicle drafter for Porsche from 1935-1944. He was among several who worked personally with Ferdinand Porsche (Porsche’s founder) which helped design the Third Reich’s armored vehicles and tanks, for example the Tiger I, during WW2. When I was young, my grandfather told me he once had met Adolf Hitler when attending a rally celebrating Porsche’s achievement in producing the prototype of the first Tiger tank. He told me that despite his horrific ideals, Hitler was a polite and charming man and that “he valued all the work we had done for the benefit of the Reich.” I must stress that my grandfather didn’t support Nazi Germany rather was forced to work for it to keep his family afloat.
Agree, sick of politically motivated titles. History as we know it is just the version of the victor anyway. Mainstream history can only be sensibly used as toilet paper.
Although I'm not really into Porsche cars, this was still a great story, and it was told really well, you kept me listening right to the end, I really appreciate your work on this.
For us car guys, that was a decent video. You hit on some good general facts about Porsche. Although, as you see in the comments the details and certain facts needed some cleaning up. However, the videos you used to fill in the gaps using movies and documentaries about Ferrari, Ford, Edsel, and other irrelevant visuals needs to be eliminated and improved upon. If you are going to do more car documentaries, we are going to call you out on every detail. Overall, though, it was decent.
The much maligned 924 is what really helped the company in the bad years. I had a "82 924 , at least 25-30 years ago, and I couldn't keep up with a v6 toyota celica/supra... But I looked damn good losing lol
Great video. Thank you! Just would have liked to see some credit to the Boxster, which was more important than the SUVs in saving the company from bankruptcy. Also, Berlin (except for 1945-90: Bonn) has been the capital of Germany since 1701 (until 1871 it was formally Prussia). Stuttgart was never the capital.
Despite some small errors in the content, an interesting video with some surprises, e.g. the early experiments with electric cars. By the way: Stuttgart was never Germany's capital, but it is the capital of the federal state of Baden-Württemberg.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Stealing Tatra's pre-existing designs, glossing over how involved he was in the Nazi party. Very disappointing video.
A friend of mine had a Porsche 911, a fantastically comfortable car but a total nightmare on a slippery wet road in the Rocky Mountains. Maybe in Bavaria they use different tires or something but not a car I'd drive in winter to save myself!!!
Sounds like cheap tires or worn out McPherson struts. I was driving one of my three 1981 Ford Escorts on a rainy I-75 and it was all over the road. Got new struts and it handled great. My aunt bought a gray market VW Squareback and complained of the handling. Years later I got one and the handling went North (I’m a Southerner). I replaced the shocks and it was quite the handler.
Wow! This story humbles me to the core. I knew of Volkswagen and the Porsche brand. I would have bet that the two had no history together. I would have lost. Awesome 😃 👍🏽!
I always doubt an American when it comes to actually knowing what happened and when with companies like this. The Boxster didn't even get a mention in this video, despite being the actual hero of this story. It was an international smash hit success on every level... except in places like America funnily enough.
The Porsche Boxter which began production in 1996 actually saved the company, not the Cayenne. The Cayenne did help in the revitalization of the company, but the Boxster saved them from bankruptcy.
Yeah I was totally expecting the Boxster when they were talking about how the company was failing in the 90s. The Boxster provided a change in direction when they were at the brink, then they really flourished with the Cayenne.
Agreed, and I was surprised it didn't get at least honorable mention! I've had 2 of them and love them, so I am a bit biased.
@Amber Jones You mean "Boxer Engine" not Boxster.
You don't even know what you're talking about, so you should sit this one out.
Im pretty sure the Cayenne did save the company.
You’re missing the years 1989-1996. What saved Porsche was Mercedes-Benz contracting the design, engineering, and manufacturing of the 500E to Porsche. Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy and Mercedes handed them a lifeline.
You mention that Porsche today is owned by the Volkswagen group, but missed to mention that the Porsche family in a very bold offensive took over the whole Volkswagen Group majority.
51% porsche se holdings porsche Piech family run it Ferdinand piech made vw the empire it currently is he was a real car guy,not a bookkeeper,made audi quattro,first 4wd in production vehicles. Vw has 13 brands under its umbrella
Forgot to mention the Porsche family controls VW today...
Well sir Porsche made the Beattle. So only right for their family to own VW.
I noticed 2 mistakes in the video:
Stuttgart is today the capital of the federal state "Baden-Württemberg". But it was NEVER the capital of Germany or the German Empire. The capital since the founding of the German Empire until the split of Germany after the war in East & West was always Berlin. After that Berlin was still the capital of the DDR (East) & the capital of the BRD (West) was Bonn. After the reunification of Germany, Berlin is the capital for all of Germany.
The Beetle officially got the name "Volkswagen" only after WWII. While the idea behind the Beetle was a "Volkswagen" (eng. People's Car) that pretty much everyone should be able to afford, the official name until the end of the war was "KdF-Wagen". Named after the National Socialist Labor Organization " Kraft durch Freude" - KdF (engl. Strength through Joy). Likewise, the original name of Wolfsburg, the city founded to build the "Beetle", was "KdF-Stadt". Only after the war the city got its present name.
Thanks for pointing out these important details, especially about the capital of Germany, huge mistake :0
I’ll be much more careful with these details, really hurts to publish a video with a mistake in it😭
@@BigCompanyYT one mistake is nothing, for this long of a montage. I have watched all of your other videos. I only see perfection!
Another thing is, Porsche-Piëch Family actually controls Volkwagen.
I caught that too also remember the 9-14 model ,in the 70's It was just a volkswagon Beetle chasis and motor w/ sportscar body
@@workspilot. brown noser
Dark history? After listening to this. More like a history of perseverance and determination. Awesome video.
Von braun moment 😂😂😂😂
Americans like to dramatize and put it in the title. It gets them more clicks.
@@Kpaxlolforeigners does it even more dummy
I guess slave labor doesnt bother you.....great job. Enjoy your shitty money pit car.
An innovative company among many brought down in the sewer by a madman and his henchmen. Sad how much talent and life was ruined by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis!
Welp now i need to buy a Porsche
Porsche is nazi car
After growing up watching Porsche compete in and dominate in motorsport, owning one was a goal I set for myself. As a teen, I owned a couple of Beetles, a '63 and a '66, and my first real job was at a Porsche-Audi dealership as a lot boy.
The 917k, 935, 917/30, later the GT1, and most recently the 919
I've owned my '85 for nearly 30 years and still love it as much as the day I bought it. The Carrera's 3.2 is one of the best engines Porsche ever built. It's nowhere near as quick or fast as a new 911, but it's engaging, analog, visceral, and an absolute joy to drive.
911 S hell yeh.
As soon as I got some money to my name I went car shopping, test drove some GT3s and Turbo S and found them extremely boring and went straight to the Audi dealer and picked up an R8 Spyder. If Porsches were like 80k-100k they would be the best sports car ever but $250,000 for boring 2 door with a spoiler that every dentist has is never gonna happen for me I’m picking proper mid engined supercar for that price every single time.
What about the disturbing history of Mitsubishi, Subaru, Isuzu etc.
because thats not what the video is about nincompoop lmao
@@teehills007LMAOOOO
Whataboutism
As Jack Gerwig accurately pointed out, it was the introduction of the Porsche Boxster that pulled Porsche back from the brink of bankruptcy. Its mid-engine design and virtually even front to back weight distribution resulted in one of the most excellent handling sports cars the company has produced. The Boxster has continued to evolve over the intervening 27-years and is a significant performance vehicle in the company's history and present product line. Its omission is an oversight in the otherwise fascinating film that should not be overlooked.
Absolutely 100% correct
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What saved Porsche was the fact that they - for the first time - used certain parts on several cars, reduzing costs. That's why the 996, the Boxster and the Cayenne share a lot of parts. So it was not the "Boxster saving Porsche" nor was it 996 or Cayenne - it was simply over due costs optimizing while having three absolute hit models in the show rooms.
One, slight error. During the competition for the design of the Tiger 1. Ferdinand Porsche developed what would be known as the VK 45 01(P) which was a turreted heavy tank. It did have the gasoline electric drive train. Porsche was pretty confident in his design so he had a number of hulls put together just in case he won, so he could start mass production easily. however the engine caused him to loose the bid. The hulls, so as not to go to waste were turned into the Ferdinand casemate tank destroyers. Many were destroyed due to the lack of anti infantry armaments, those that weren't destroyed in the eastern front would be retrofitted with a forward facing bow machine gun. These models would be later referred to as the Elephant.
I was just coming here to comment this. Huge oversight in the creators video. Glad you caught it!
There are more than a couple errors and oversights in this mess.
Awesome video!! A couple things I didn’t see in the video
1. The attempts to make more affordable Porsches to make the company more profitable, 914, 924, 944
2. 928 was initially built to challenge the larger V8 cars built by American companies, and was originally slated to replace the 911, but the popularity was never there
3. The big initial thing to save Porsche in late 90s was the introduction of the more affordable Boxster, which also shared many parts and design with the 996, which was the first water cooled 911 in attempt to “modernize” the car. Also, Porsche trying to go for a more “modern” look Hired 1-2 former Toyota designers for the 996 and Boxster. While their numbers did go up, the design, specifically getting away from the round headlight design, make the 996 the least desirable of any 911 generation. The interior design had very little to be desired as well.
4. The Macan came much much later than the Cheyenne, and Porsche was already at a very profitable position by the time the Macan came around.
5. No mention of Porsche involvement with the Auto Union?
6. Stuttgart wasn’t the capital of German, either before or after the war.
7. Ferdinand was less “friendly” to Hitler than is portrayed in the video.
The funny part is when the Boxster was first sold it was far from affordable as the sky high demand and weak dollar made the hottest selling Porsche still more expensive than just about any non-exotic sports car and definitely the most expensive roadster. Pricing was what was killing the 911 in the 1990s as it was perceived as expensive to maintain and incredibly expensive to repair. I think by late 1998 the last 911 sold less than 1,200 units in all of North America...INSANE.
Porsche dealerships were lonely places that year despite the USA economy being in a full blown bull market. The wealthy were buying 2 of everything except 911's. I read a story that Porsche couldn't even convince the auto show to keep the lights on when they ran late and tried unveil the 1993 Boxster concept car that's how much trouble Porsche was in. But from the moment the cover came off the Boxster it was on the front of every car magazine.
Read the book You Can’t Do Business With The Nazis by a member of the US trade Delegation in the ‘30s. You had to do business the way they said to do it and the cost was high. Dr. P was really only interested in staying in the engineering business.
A lot less freindly... unlike the quandt family....
Ferdinand was VERY friendly to Hilter... backup your statement.
@@jerome_mgozama I don’t know what his frame of mind was. Can you back up your statement?
When I was living in Honolulu, I had a place to live in a boat in the marina at Waikiki. One of my "neighbors" had a brown '79 911 SC Targa and he asked me to drive it at least once a week. The trouble was, I was completely broke most of the time, so I only drove it to the food bank, but had to park a few blocks away so as not to infuriate anyone who just wouldn't understand why a guy with a Porsche 911 was hitting up the food bank. Good times...
Haha what a story Niko! Awesome! Love it! For real? Did you think to drive to a job interview or sales meeting in it? :) I drove a Mitsubishi 4x4 L300 into Byron Bay, Australia, with my last 20$ in my tank. Tried to pay for a loaf of bread with stamps. The line behind me. Not accepted. ... Kind of a low point, that. Could 've chosen to be miserable. Chose to go out and sell a couple of my ambient chill-out CDs instead (Patches of Light, In the Moment - Grand Piano). It's always what you focus on that becomes reality. As the double slit experiment in quantum physics demonstrates. What you see is what you believe. So choose wisely what you believe.
Underrated comment.
We can bend reality if we choose the path.
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So can we.
The post-war part of this story is heart-warming. I have never driven a Porsche, but I drove a 1970 Beetle during and after high school
My first car as a teen was a 1960 Beetle. It was that rusty red with a huge sun-roof. Loved that car!! One time I actually buried the needle out on the highway. I think the gauge went to about 70 or 80 mph. I was going downhill with the wind at my back. 😆
Grandpa passed down a 71 porsche 911 that he got from a local racer who crashed and it feels so premium
@@loganm.144 Which version? I mean regardless of the version its a keeper, I am interested because there are two versions of the 71, the 2.2 and the 2.4 The later being the 1st year of production. I love the 60's - 70's porsche body's
I have a Carrera 4 GTS (2nd version), but I would still love to purchase one of the classics. The 356 is one of my dream cars, but the price is still quite high for me at this time
Tre drives a nice super beetle in the movie Boys in the Hood..always wanted one like that but I had a standard Beetle in HS
the car he built for Hitler
Voiceover was wonderful appreciating
When a video says something as outrageously wrong as calling Stuttgart the "capital of Germany" you have to be skeptical of any else asserted.
Still daily driving a 37 years old Porsche 924S and i really don't feel like getting anything different any time soon.
Many things left out of this video or actually incorrect as already mentioned but I'll add the Porsche Boxster is what saved them with volume sales in the 90's, and it doesn't mention the mid 70's when they almost went out of business as well, when the 914 and more so, the 924 saved them again with volume sales of cheaper vehicles.
No video is perfect, but the touching points were there.
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The black DEI stock photo hand shake in a history video about a German engineer in the late 19th century and early 20th is farcicle.
The fact you focus on that shows what a sick sad individual you are bub
While I agree that it's laughably fictional, you probably shouldn't read too much into it politically. There's so much stock footage in here that they literally used a photo of the American made Tucker 48 @20:43
@@WanderingExistence stop making excuses. Things like this matter dude. They matter a lot. And there is people who use things like this to push agendas and false narritives. I've already seen people using ai images as to re write historical moments. And at first it seems silly. But when it has hundreds of thousands of people thinking uts real...... that is an actual issue
@@Latvijas_Amēlija lol, you shouldn't shock something up to malice when it's easily just short-sightedness. Your skepticism is important but in this instance it's misplaced.
that editing is so satisfying man, keep it up
Actually, a rather touching story about a son's love
and devotion to his father.
Grandson also idiot
I was things the same thing shows how strong a father and son relationship can be
It's illegal to say it in the EU.
Family matters.
Lies again? After Dark X Horse Face
No mention of Tatra, even though there are tons of pictures and footage of them in the video? Whoever edited this knows more than the person who wrote it.
The Original Tank that Porsche made for the Tiger Program was called Tiger (P). It failed so bad that the Tiger I was the overall winner. The 90 hulls were originally Tiger P but was then converted to Ferdinands Tank Destroyers. The Codename "Elefant" was another name for Ferdinand due to its installment of small upgrades but many of the German Soldiers didn't know the difference so they still called them Ferdinands.
The Porsche 911 has to be one of the most iconic cars in human history.
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It's crazy they have been trying to make electric cars for over 100 years.. history repeats itself
Actually quite a few companies made electric cars back then it was just the fact that in colder climates they were practically useless and wouldn’t last very long
@@Nationof300 that us still true in 2024
Porsche remains my favorite car brand of all time.
I really like the Porsche 911 Turbo.
W
Why?
@@markremy4946 Why what?
@@griffins750 Why like Porsche?
@@markremy4946 Bruh...
I drove a 911 Turbo for a year (2016) great car, had a lot of fun with it.
Pretty much every large company has some skeleton(s) in the closet.
As a car company, I think their product is fantastic.
The Cayman is definitely interesting, I was tempted to buy one of the GT4 versions a few years back but it didn’t have the “daily driver” nature of a 911 Turbo and thus had to pass.
I still think the 911 Turbo is one of the greatest cars ever made, you can grab groceries in it, pickup kids from school, drive in the snow etc.
I thinking of buying one
"Every large company has some skeletons in the closet" nonsense, that is if you're willing to turn a blind eye to Ford and GMC (if I'm not mistaken) suing the US government for damages caused to their manufacturing plants in Europe by allied bombers during WWll. Mfg plants who were supplying the Nazi regime.
I've owned 4 Porsches in my driving history, including the iconic '59 RSK 718 Spyder. There was no mention in this video about the Spyders doing so well on the track with fantastic handling, reliability, being race cars that could outdrive and outlast larger cars, with larger engines. Race results is probably what brought lots of street drivers into Porsche showrooms.
Such a great car
I'd like to pull my Dodge charger hellcat up beside of one of those POS
You owned a $4 million dollar car? I hate the comment section....I'm done.
@@hawksrock3024 you don't like the commen section because someone else owned a nice car?
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This is an amazing documentary. You didn't leave anything out. Very well done.
Thank you. I would be honored to come to the museum
I’m a little disappointed about the fact you didn’t mention the fact the 911 was almost named the 901 but Peugeot that threatened to sue as they owned the rights to 3 digit car names with a 0 in the middle. e.g. 502, 901, etc…
It's not Renault it's Peugeot that had the rights to name their car 901 in Europe
Actually it was Peugeot
@@chefGourdini ah thanks I’ll change it right now
They made a few 901s they are worth alot
Behold,
_the_ definitive geek-out video guide to 911 model #s, including the race cars:
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And again GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! Wrong in the 1920 to 1930 periode, wrong in 1947 to 1972 and again 1986 to 1993 periode. And again wrong concerning the Cayenne introduction motives.
I am the great grand son of Ferdinand Porsche. Nice try, but there are many more correct sources out there.
when you mentioned the motorsports portion of The 911 section most of the wins were done by non-911 cars like the 910, 908, 906, 917, 962, 956, 907, 718, etc.
Actually in the GT classes Porsche has many many wins with 911 variants and when you add up those wins, this is how Porsche is able to claim that they have more motor racing wins than any other car manufacturer. Without those wins, my understanding is that Ferrari is able to claim the most wins (when only counting the very highest levels of endurance racing and F1).
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The 911 turbo has to be one of the best looking cars ever built. I’d love a shot of 1. Hopefully one day.👏
Excellent video, as a Porsche owner myself, I thoroughly enjoyed every moment. Thanks !
both you and I enjoyed the video, I own a 91 911 carrera4 cabriolet.
@@ralphkrepps1240 77 S wide body for me!
I've got a Porsche outside my front door right now...oh no, wait a minute, its actually a porch!
@@antonioveritas LOL
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
It's a shame the co existence of Hans Ledwinka wasn't mentioned as its pivotal to Porsche early years of auto engineering. Ledwinka and Porsche and both designed, air-cooled engines, swing axles, backbone chassis and pear drop aerodynamical shape.
I agree, Ledwinka's ideas were certainly "employed" by Porsche in his designs of the volkswagen and the Auto Union GP cars, great engineer though he was in his own right.
Ledwinka and Porsche were cellmates in jail. This is when Porsche was educated in modern automobile design. Porsche failed miserably creating an armoured tank prototype for Hitler.
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No it isn't. It's just a rip off of MagnatesMedia.
@@user-jh5uc2ss1l shut up
Its bullshit and tells lies about Hilter. Go do your research on the Jews and you might wake up.
@@user-jh5uc2ss1l true. And this video is full of errors.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
I'm German and I'm very close to Porsche manufactures/factories. Question to y'all: if your government, wherever you are, calls out to switch into war industry for all companies of all branches- which of your current companies would resist and say: No.. we rather close our company instead of going on producing? Please be honest to yourself by answering this simple question.
Germany has been reduced so often and up to date for these 12 dark years we went through... not considering the very good things which were coming before and after those twelve years. Doing the maths nobody of the current employees at one of the accused companies was born before the 1950ies-me I was born in the 70ies... so what's my take on any involvement in the 1930ies? There's no generational guilt and if somebody claims there is then please do the research about your own home country. I'm not trying to insult anyone but I'm just tired of carrying a burdon which is not me nor mine.
But it roots is Austrian? The Hapsburg empire did sponsored Kaiser and then latter Weimar?
What a great documentary! Loved every part about it. Well done! Tanks of all the knowledge I earned from you❤️
The true story of Porsche should have an extensive discussion of Ledvinka and Tatra…
Exactly! Stealing the pre-existing Tatra designs and then getting the lawsuit thrown out when his pal Adolf invaded Czech. And truly glossing over how supportive Ferdinand Porsche truly was of the Nazi party.
@@aaron62877 Yes, VW and Poesche was only copy of Tatra . Irt was concirmed by court later.
Great video but you never mentioned Ferdinand Piech who was a brilliant engineer and a very talented company executive who designed many of their cars in the 1970s and 1980s. Mainly the famous 917!
I watched and listened and don't recall any mention of the 917, which won at Le Mans a few times. And they had the 917 Can Am version, too.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
Rather unfortunate that you talked about airplanes he had designed, whilst showing a Spitfire in the background. 😱😱😱
No point in picking a specific example, when it's clear the entire video is mostly movie scenes that have nothing to do with what is being talked about.
In 1985, when I was 16 years old, my uncle took me to a baseball game in his brand new 911. From that day, I fell in love with that car and became determined to own one of my own. Two months ago, that dream became a reality when I bought my 911 Turbo S. It took 39 years, but it’s just as great as I dreamed it would be to drive one.
Thank you for that absolute nice video, much love❤
I dont think that its disturbing past for the company but rather an inspiring one, actually id love to buy one now because of its great history 👍 respect to them
except it was not you family, that was used as slave labour, and killed under horrific conditions. how could you ever understand.
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Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
1 mistake I noticed in the video was when you mentioned the Ferdinand Heavy Tank destroyer as a Tiger prototype from Porche. The Tiger tank Porche introduced to H!tler was the Tiger P.
This makes me like porsche even more ngl
It is an Illusion to think this isn‘t normal for an Company in our time.
Word👌
I have a 1995 911 turbo and parked in drunk in one of my fields. Still haven't bothered to go find it. Anyway, my Cherry red 911 targa 4S turbo 2023 finally arrived. Really enjoying it so far. I'll at least keep driving it regularly for 6-8 months before giving it to my nephew or someone that likes a car with over 10,000km
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Though you were fairly accurate about Porsche’s early history, it was the Boxster 986 that really saved the company from bankruptcy, the SUV was only part of the solution way after the Boxster’s introduction in early to mid 1990’s auto show.
Indeed. He completely went from 1993 to 2002... as if in 9 years Porsche somehow did nothing and still didn't go bankrupt. The video has more errors in it than factually correct information.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. The early history section has major omissions.
Porsche , the M-B racing engineer, actually first met Hitler (a Mercedes owner) at the Solitude racetrack SW of Stuttgart in 1924 after Hitler was released from prison.
September 1963, The Porsche 901 was displayed at the IAA in Frankfurt . When they went to the Paris Motor Show in 1964, Peugeot objected to the model designation. 82 units of the 901 were produced before the name change.
One of the highlights of my young life was when my friend Johnny took his fathers red Porsche 928 from DC to college park Maryland down interstate 95 . At times we were going 160 mph and it was like time slowed down . We made it in what seemed like 30 minutes . That was fun !
We went to car shows all over with his dads Ac Bristols , Jaguars , and Mg's . He had an MG twin cam that was best in the country at the time . Good times in the early 80s .
Wow,great story!
Author, please make some corrections to the video, accusing Porsche being a friend of hitler is a big mistake.
Also, note that Porsche being a genius engineer deliberately designed his “weapons” the way they are not operable and couldn’t serve the Wehrmacht.
After all this happened many testimonials said Porsche was against the regime and did his best to serve humanity helping others to rescue and save lives working at his factory.
I feel this is important to add as it completely changes the image of this noble historical person.
Ernst Heinkel knew Ferdinand Porsche quite well. He remarked his surprise how Porsche's management used to keep Ferdinand busy in the workshop tinkering with engines while they ran his business for him.
What really saved Porsche from bankruptcy in the early 90s, long before the Cayenne was built, were two development and manufacturing collaborations, one with Audi and one with Mercedes, resulting in the Audi RS2 and the Mercedes (E) 500, both of which were built at the Porsche factory. And the two each began to sell like hot cakes, taking enough pressure off Porsche to be able to avoid filing for bankruptcy. It was only then that they were also able to look to the future and put efforts into designing the Cayenne.
And the boxster
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history so crazy and old recordings so cool
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I followed the same path starting today!
The first two stories I also saw too!
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video.
You didn't suggested at all that Porsche stole the Beetle design from Hans Ledwinka who designed the Tatra v570 prototype. Well they both know each other both consulted their designs but the Tatra prototype existed earlier
The most disturbing thing in this "history" video is the omission of the man who designed the sheet metal from the VW Beetle to the 356, 550, 911, and 904- Erwin Komenda. NOT Ferry. Hired at the outset by Ferdinand, fired in 1962, died in 1964. The classic photo from 1948 (when the first 356 rolled out of the barn in Austria) was eventually cropped to eliminate Komenda from the "history".
Great video, but I noticed you perfectly started to lead into the creation and importance of the Boxster in the 90s, but ended up totally jumping to the 2000s to talk about the Cayenne .... was really surprised that was left out, especially considering how well known the significance was in preventing their bankruptcy.
Great video but you’ve not mentioned Hans Ledwinka and his collaboration on KdF Wagen. You missed out on Anton Piech amongst others. Volkswagen was preceded by Ledwinka’s Tatra
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Porsche stole the design for the Peoples car from Tatra, a Czech company, rear engine, air cooled, which later became the Beetle and the 911. Porsche settled out of court with Tatra….look it up. 😢
Was looking for someone to mention this. Spot on correct. Father of Porsche is Czech
Hitler actually encouraged Porsche to create something similar to what Hans Ledwinka was doing, because he had great respect for the Tatra 87 and saw it as the best example of what a fast car for his Autobahn should look like.
It is known fact that Porsche family chosen Czechoslovak nationality when Hungarian Austrian empire was dissolved. Ferdinand Porsche was forced by Nazis to become German for their own motives. That area is ever so interlinked and both Germans and Czech have always passionate by engineering and design.
In my opinion the reason that approximately 70% of 911s are still on the road isn’t because of their reliability. It’s because they are so valuable and unless the vehicle is a total loss due to damage they will be fixed.
If they weren't reliable, they woundn't stay valuable.
@@sonnylatchstring really? How often do you see a half a million dollar Ferrari or Lamborghini on fire on social media? The thing that makes them valuable is the rarity and prestige that comes with owning a super car. Also there is the fact that they are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars brand new. Reliability has nothing to do with it or VW beetles would be worth more then any super car around because they are reliable.
They are around thanks to idiotic hipsters who don't buy quality but brands so they can satisfy their low self esteem complexes and lack of common sense so as sense of having an actual life.
Same can be said for every brand that comes from Germany from day 1, they are around because enough number of idiots keep buying the same trash.
@@scottgoodwins They;re worth it because they're reliable, practical and prestigeous supercars.
@@scottgoodwins The 3.0 flat six introduced in the 1976 930 and used in later years in non turbo SC engines have gone as long as 300,000 miles without major problems.
When do you produce a video titeled: The dark side of US-Rocketry, or US-Jet-Flight?
Also in 1988, Porsche was one of the first auto manufacturers, if not the first, to come out with a Tip-o-tronic transmission. I remember reading that from a Road & Track magazine article from that time.
Yes I think they first explored a type of semi automatic gearbox a pre tip tronic transmission in the Tiger tank 🤔
If it's a Porsche, the owner will be able to shift gears himself.
You've taken a few liberties in your narrative. But like they say, don't let the truth get in the way of a good story. Like many have mentioned before me, it was the Boxter that preceded the Cayenne by 6 years that saved Porsche. The Boxter design was a throwback to the past, inspired by the 356 Cabriolet Speedster and 550 Spyder. And it was this nostalgic link that reignited the motoring public's love affair with Porsche. Previous attempts to modernize don't even get a mention like the 924, 944 and 948. But it was the interpretation of Ferdinand's jailing by the French that devalued the story line for me. You don't think the French had a pecuniary motive to protect their motor industry by jailing such a brilliant automotive innovator under the guise of war crimes? Still an interesting story without the dramatic overtones and omissions.
Average Porsche fan
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The Ferdinand was the result of the 100 PROTOTYPE Tigers that failed in the contest, but needed SOMETHING done with them.
They WERE NOT the Porche entry into the Tiger contest, and were substantially redesigned and rebuilt to BECOME tank destroyers.
The Elephaunt was a later change to the design to add some anti-infantry protection machine guns - but otherwise was THE SAME vehicle.
Hitler wanted a tank design to work with 8.8 cm flak gun that had started being used to great effect against tanks. Porsche and someone else competed to have their design used by the German army, in which Porsches prototype had an engine fire, among other major mechanical failures that caused it to lose misreably. Porsche had already created I believe 93 of the Porsche Tigers, and turned them into the "Ferdinand/Elephant" which was used on the eastern front. There are stories of Ferdinands failing in battle because of engine failure, including one where a Ferdinand had an engine fire due to trying to get a better position on a hill. Porsche Tigers/Ferdinand's were HATED by the German army.
@@aperson8025 The Ferdinand, later Elefant (same vehicle, but had anti-person machine guns added) had more mobility losses and breakdown losses than combat losses.
It WAS deadly - when it could get a shot off - having been upgraded to the LONG version of the 88 (71 calibre, same as the Tiger II/Kink Tiger, as opposed to the shorter 56 calibre the original Tiger was limited to). This gave it a higher speed shot, and more armor penetration than the Tiger, and is WHY the Germans were quite happy to upgrade to it instead of something "bigger" in the Tiger II (as opposed to the JS/IS the Soviets had started making by the end of the war).
They may have been hated by the Germans - but they also had THE highest kill-loss ratio of the war for any German armored vehicle, at about 10 to 1.
DESPITE the "underpowered" mobility issues and the unreliable badly overloaded transmissions that broke too often, that gun was DEADLY.
@@bricefleckenstein9666 I'm sure kill/loss is higher, but I think is a bit optimistic. We know that its not uncommon for people to inflate numbers, either based on thinking that they hit something or something else, we've seen it with the Americans reporting Tigers and world war II, and with the Russians reporting I forget how many HIMARS in Ukraine, despite only sound about a dozen and a half at first, and probably a lot more instances but those are the first two that come to mind right now. Also, I think that the gun probably might have been better off being used as an AT gun or towed rather than putting it on a stressed out super tractor, but how much do I know. Also kink tiger made me giggle a little at 4AM.
@@aperson8025 Trade off, those things were HARD to kill - even for the SU/ISU-152.
There's reasons more were lost due to their own issues - where a towed anti-tank gun was vulnerable to even infantry once it fired and if it wasn't well camoflaged (sometimes even when it WAS and the infantry got lucky).
The stats on Porsche reliability is pretty impressive
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Congratulations on undertaking this video, which is a vast topic for a non-historian. It's particularly challenging, not just because of it's vastness, but because Porschephiles are some of the most ardent enthusiasts (some would say "fanatics") on the Planet.. a criticism for any infraction is sure to follow (e.g., not pointing out that the 911 was originally introduced as the "901", before they fell into legal naming problems with Peugeot). I did learn new info, which was that Ferdinand was involved with the SSK. Possibly the most important omission was the truly genius engineering done on the 1930's Auto Union V16. Here the old man went right to the best and most exotic solution demanded by physics; make it mid-engine with a mind blowing power plant. At the risk of receiving death threats, I'll state the obvious, Porsche never got back to that level until the introduction of 917. I am a child of the late 50's and 1960's. I was fortunate to grow up in a community that had annual road races and many, many exotic cars on the street. I never understood the contemporary mania around Porsche street cars. I now track a carbon equipped GT4 regularly, but sometimes people mistakenly think I am a Porschephile... no, it's just a well engineered, mid-engine car. Today, Porsche, even Lamborghini are just mass producing cars that are great, but just a little souless. If there are any vehicles that make me a "phile", they are the Italian V12s of the late '50s and 1960s (particularly the mid-engine V12 of 1967-73... made by a company that now produces SUVs). Sorry, it's just the period of my formative years. I'll turn on my security system now. Wait, one last thing... one of my duties as a responsible car enthusiast is to patiently and kindly explain to 911 owners, that car is not pronounced "Poorsh".
I would say with cars like the 911R and GT3 Touring Porsche has managed to give its cars some "soul" compared to its competitors but thats just my opinion shrug*
@@griffins750 I actually heartily agree, that's why I bought a GT4 when it first came out and track it to this day (versus buying another brand). It does everything perfectly. Like most all modern cars that are doing everything almost perfectly, there's a little bit of soul that's lost. It's also relative. I've owned two Miuras and still have one. You hit the ignition on that and you are carried to another place. Is it perfect? No. Does it have the same lap time as a modern Porsche? No. It has a soul that I think cannot be built today given all the legal restrictions. It was also a disruptive car when introduced, just like Dr. Porsche coming up with the Auto Union v16 in the 1930's.
@@gregorydahlen2103 Oh you own a Miura lmao ofc you're missing the "personality" A Porsche isn't a serial arsonist! Targeting only itself!!! Jokes aside if that's your baseline then that's totally understandable, in terms of "experience", an overload of the senses, sound, vibration, and horrifically flawed ergonomics the Miura will trounce a GT4 as you said. Where I disagree is in saying that one has more of a soul than the other, in my opinion, they both have "souls"(jesus this is getting near philosophical at this point), characteristics that make the cars unique, it's just that each one is very different, and I'd definitely agree that a Miura's is more vibrant, and more interactive than a GT4 or any new car tbh... Hopefully, you get what I mean, I think we both just have differing thoughts on the use of the word "soul" in regards to a car's character but I could be way off the mark with that...
@@griffins750 Yes, differing thoughts on the use of the term "soul". But I was asking for it ;-) One of my missions is to take as many young people for a ride in the Miura as I can... way too many are in private collections and no longer driven... sadly.
For me F1 is also the same. It's just not the same. But that's laying another minefield for myself.
You Americans really live in a weird world.
I've been fortunate to have owned two. My first was a '63 356, my second an '83 911SC which I had the pleasure of driving from Orlando FL to San Diego Ca then up the PCH and back to Orlando. Not to mention the Tail of the Dragon.
That was really, really interesting. Well done! I loved all the details of how Porsche actually designed the Beetle. What I felt was really missing is details on the development of the 928, which I think is a really stunning looking car. In terms of design, I think the 928 is my favorite car of all time.
I was one of the first people to ever drive the 928 right after they arrived from Zuffenhausen. I also remember the fact that i took a hammer and hit it on the back Bumper after which you did not even see a mark on it ! yet teh 924 looked like shit compared to the 28 and is an insult to the Porsche Brand
Concur completely.
A 928 is your favourite car of all time?… Bro you can pick one up for like $2,500 it’s the most regular traffic car ever I think of a Chevy Cavalier as nicer…
Who knew that motor inside the wheel itself was such an early invention!
GT3 for me was the most luxurious and race looking car Porsche ever made😍
Which one?
@@tosehoed123 he talk about a sport car porsche made gt3
Porsche did not win Le Mans until 1970. it did so with the all conquering five litre flat 12 917. This was to be the first of 16 overall wins, a record. In 1952 I assume what the film is referring to is a win in the the 2 litre production class with the 356. The 356 never used a stock VW engine, as claimed; it was highly modified and was soon a design in its own right, sharing only the boxer layout. The car was also far more than "only a variation of the Beetle." The car and the engine, although sharing design elements such as engine layout and rear (behind the rear axle) placement, was a Porsche, not a modified VW.
The three-piece case began as Porsche’s design for VW’s attempt at a diesel Beetle. But a 0-62 mph acceleration of 60 seconds killed the program. Porsche bought it back and successfully used it as a gas burner.
Chassis weren't even the same.
19 overal wins by now not 16
@@stijnvandamme76 You are correct.
@@scottdelong1 the first 1.1engine was a "stock" VW engine, modified with higher compression and a slight larger intake valve getting almost 9hp more. (Some say 5hp) internals were the same.,
10:51 What a *mayor* problem
My grandfather worked as vehicle drafter for Porsche from 1935-1944. He was among several who worked personally with Ferdinand Porsche (Porsche’s founder) which helped design the Third Reich’s armored vehicles and tanks, for example the Tiger I, during WW2. When I was young, my grandfather told me he once had met Adolf Hitler when attending a rally celebrating Porsche’s achievement in producing the prototype of the first Tiger tank. He told me that despite his horrific ideals, Hitler was a polite and charming man and that “he valued all the work we had done for the benefit of the Reich.”
I must stress that my grandfather didn’t support Nazi Germany rather was forced to work for it to keep his family afloat.
Nice video but disagree on the name ,,, Ferdinand was bright and determined engineer who lived through dark times and should not be blamed for it
Agree, sick of politically motivated titles. History as we know it is just the version of the victor anyway. Mainstream history can only be sensibly used as toilet paper.
Correct, the content creator is an idiot
@@johnwh1039 next video will be about the dark age of german cows who produced milk at that era followed by the dark age of chicken ….etc
Although I'm not really into Porsche cars, this was still a great story, and it was told really well, you kept me listening right to the end, I really appreciate your work on this.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Major errors and skips over huge sections of company history.
For us car guys, that was a decent video. You hit on some good general facts about Porsche. Although, as you see in the comments the details and certain facts needed some cleaning up. However, the videos you used to fill in the gaps using movies and documentaries about Ferrari, Ford, Edsel, and other irrelevant visuals needs to be eliminated and improved upon. If you are going to do more car documentaries, we are going to call you out on every detail. Overall, though, it was decent.
your not giving him enough credit, this was good
The much maligned 924 is what really helped the company in the bad years. I had a "82 924 , at least 25-30 years ago, and I couldn't keep up with a v6 toyota celica/supra... But I looked damn good losing lol
I'm not disturbed by their history... in fact, I think it's pretty cool!
“The victors write the history”
Great video. Thank you! Just would have liked to see some credit to the Boxster, which was more important than the SUVs in saving the company from bankruptcy. Also, Berlin (except for 1945-90: Bonn) has been the capital of Germany since 1701 (until 1871 it was formally Prussia). Stuttgart was never the capital.
Imagine being so far behind the zeitgeist that you find it “disturbing” 😂
Pitty you didn't mention Beetle design resemblence to years earlier Tatra v570 made by Hans Ledwinka.
You failed to mention one important fact. Porsche copied the Czech Tatra when designing the first Volkswagen.
Despite some small errors in the content, an interesting video with some surprises, e.g. the early experiments with electric cars. By the way: Stuttgart was never Germany's capital, but it is the capital of the federal state of Baden-Württemberg.
Poorly researched and factually incorrect video. Stealing Tatra's pre-existing designs, glossing over how involved he was in the Nazi party. Very disappointing video.
A friend of mine had a Porsche 911, a fantastically comfortable car but a total nightmare on a slippery wet road in the Rocky Mountains. Maybe in Bavaria they use different tires or something but not a car I'd drive in winter to save myself!!!
Snap oversteer enters the chat LOL!
Sounds like cheap tires or worn out McPherson struts. I was driving one of my three 1981 Ford Escorts on a rainy I-75 and it was all over the road. Got new struts and it handled great.
My aunt bought a gray market VW Squareback and complained of the handling. Years later I got one and the handling went North (I’m a Southerner). I replaced the shocks and it was quite the handler.
@@m.g.540 actually 911 does use McPherson strut (until 992 GT3/RS)
In the rain while using my old 911, remember never apply loud pedal during a turn. Snap oversteer will meet you instantly!
Wow! This story humbles me to the core. I knew of Volkswagen and the Porsche brand. I would have bet that the two had no history together. I would have lost. Awesome 😃 👍🏽!
Porsche Holding is the owner of VW
not mentioning that original beatle design was stolen from TATRA designer Hans Ledwinka is a massive FAIL.
I always doubt an American when it comes to actually knowing what happened and when with companies like this.
The Boxster didn't even get a mention in this video, despite being the actual hero of this story. It was an international smash hit success on every level... except in places like America funnily enough.
The 928 was supposed to be the successor to the 911. As cool as the 928's are now, I'm so glad that it didn't work out that way.
The 928 was a beautiful looking car and ahead of its time don't think Porsche can/want to shake the 911 image
Happy New year to you if you are reading this comment... wish you health, wealth and Success. a fellow creator...
Thank you too buddy take care
Thank you. You as well. 😊
I remember in high school I decided to race a beetle thinking it would be an easy win. I was wrong 😅