This Supercharged Porsche 924 Uses a Modified Eaton M45 From a Mini Cooper S!
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
- The standard Porsche 924 has excellent handling but it's never been very fast. I drive this 924 that Chris has fitted the supercharger from an R53 Mini Cooper S. It makes this a much more engaging car. The engine modifications bring this close to a turbo in terms of power and make it a really fun car to drive and a bit of a sleeper!
The irony with the 924 is it would probably be massively more appreciated and likely more valuable if it had been a VW. Can almost hear everyone saying "oh it's basically a Porsche..."
Lolz.soo true
People pay silly money for a mk1 GTI, when quite frankly the 924 is way more fun to drive.
@@stijnvandamme76 both are gorgeous cars IMHO
Thanks for featuring my car Jack, glad you liked it :). The guy that has developed the kit is called Ciprian, and he has his own You Tube channel - PorscheAddict.
Thanks for bringing it down Chris!!
Hey. I've been considering doing this mod for my car. Is it still going well? Notice any issues after getting the supercharger?
@@silverking6970 issues? Yes the whoosh noise is addictive and makes you drive like a idiot :D. Seriously, I’m on V3 of the kit and it works very well, stable and reliable over many 100s of miles. The only slight criticism is the on/off nature of the power. It’s not super smooth but it’s only a minor niggle. I’m still on the standard brake setup which is a bit weak with the SC setup. The Car Throttle UA-cam channel is modifying a 924 with the SC kit, worth a watch maybe.
Down to earth, realistic and proper review of the 924. Glad you like the supercharger setup as well ;-) Cheers!
^ The man who designed this supercharger kit! ^
Jack, loved these left field reviews, a seemingly standard car with a twist or a story is just up my street! Keep 'em coming!!
Good to hear, thank you!!
I had a 1984 model, electric windows, leather seats, turbo rims.. I couldn't fault it. Used it as a daily driver for about 5 years without any problems. Very practical too, could fit the mountainbike in the back. Such fun to drive and so cheap!
So cheap at that time...
@@adamt3332 Yes, only paid 3000 euros!!!
I always loved the 924 body over the 944. That's why the 924S was the wolf in sheep's clothing and easy enough to upgrade to 944 spec or beyond. To me the 924 vs the 944 is like the original LP400 countach vs the countach with all the dumb flares and wings. Just a more pure design and much more slippery looking.
Agree! Have 924 2.0 + 944S2 but my wife do'nt want to sit in the 944. She says the 944 looks like a tuned 80th car driven by young idiots.. Mmmm I also like 924 more but dislike all the commends from the car enthusiast. (It is not a true Porsche. So you want to be a Porsche 911 owner but do'nt have the money for..) Maybe for an old man like me it is better to drive by bus, train or taxi...
Also a big 924 fan here Jack. Bought a 924 Turbo when I was 21 back in 1994 and loved it, for 6 months anyway. Went go-karting with some friends in Croydon one Saturday, celebrated the win with a something or other and with Kiss FM having a back to 89 radio session promptly put the car into a lamppost after Crystal Palace roundabout. Gutted. Sold it for 300 quid.
I just installed mine and I must say it has transformed the car. Power, responsiveness, its amazing. We installed it over a weekend with basic hand tools and it was a simple bolt of which can be brought back to stock very simply. This is a must kit for any 924 N/A owner and I highly recommend it. The power and the sound are truly amazing
Hi and thanks for posting this…. are you are in the US? Does it work well with the US cars? Thanks.
@@pkonyoutube YES I installed it on my 1977 924 and it was a weekend job. Pretty straightforward. Adjusted timing & fuel as the kit instructions indicated and it’s running awesome . Love the sound it’s the same as in the videos that @porscheaddict posts on UA-cam
@@genesisstudios-nynashville6852 Thanks for the quick reply! Can you lend a rough idea of cost? Any issues with detonation and heat? I had a supercharged miata years ago, but it would have detonation problems when run hard and overheat on the track. I push my cars very hard and need them bulletproof, mostly for backroad rallies these days.
@@pkonyoutube Kit was somewhere between $1100 - $1400 don't remember exactly since I purchased 3 of them and its been a while. You would also have to source a Eaton M45 Supercharger which you can find on eBay like I did for about $350.00. Kit includes everything you need for installation from gaskets to nuts and bolts. Reach out to Ciprian he is an amazing guy and very knowledgeable and helpful
@@genesisstudios-nynashville6852 Thanks very much for the replies. Do you have a spare kit to sell? I’ll also contact ciprian. Thanks 🤙
I had a 1977 Porsche 924 in the period 1985-1988 and drove a little over 90,000 Km (approx. 56,000 miles) with it. The car was fantastic and transported me everywhere in Europe. I loved the driving characteristics and I loved the design. At the same time, however, a good friend of mine had a 1979 Porsche 924 Turbo (931). The engine in the 924 Turbo transformed the 924 and the model got the power it deserved. The turbo technology at that time was not the most sophisticated so there was a certain "ketchup" effect (...nothing, nothing and then all the effect at once), but the car was pretty fast and was in practice almost as fast on the Autobahn as the later 944 Turbo (951). The brakes on the 924 Turbo were the same as on the 928 S, but the brakes on the 944 Turbo came from the 928 S4. This meant that with many decelerations from high speeds, the brakes on the 924 Turbo became too hot, while the 944 Turbo did well. I think the whole 924 program had a pretty undeserved reputation for not being a real Porsche. Without 924 we would not have had 944 (which ultimately became 968). I also think the engine in the 924 was quite usable for its time. 125 HP was not bad when the model came on the market (and remember that it only weighed 1080 Kg) and it would be many years before different GTI models got significantly more. The engine was further developed and received first 170 HP, then 177 HP and finally in 1981 210 HP in the 924 Carrera GT (937). In the racing model 924 Carrera GTR (939) the engine developed a full 375 HP.
Don't forget that Porsche still developed the n/a engine for the 924 S (the detuned 944 engine that Porsche had to develop when VW stopped making the 2.0L blocks for the base 924 which Jack refers to in the video) that slotted below the 170 hp 924 turbo that you are referring to. It made about 148 bhp.
@@Jeff_F7 Thanks and the 924 S with a 944 engine of 2479 cm3 I am of course aware. The point, however, was what Porsche did with the original engine of the 1984 cm3 Audi/VW engine.
Was my 1 st Porsche at 22 yrs old Bought it with 90k miles and ran it up to 140 K trouble free .You are right about the handling .When I was 25 ( had to wait for insurance reasons ) went to a 911 3.2 .I always missed to proper handling the then so called inferior 924 had .Suffered in silence in the pub when everyone told me the 911 was better .It wasn’t.In 94 I ditched the 911 and went back to a 968 the CS version .It’s all about the feel and handling balance.
Jack love your realistic down to earth reviews, with no narrative flowers! Keep going ! Many thanks 🙏🏽
Very very cool. I have an R53 and I love the charger, the sound and the response, great fun. This is an excellent project.
That was a car, I liked the way it was described as being improved and is now a spirited drive. It is good to see modified cars developing trends for subtle finishes I think it could spell a wave of enthusiasm before long.
I love how it looks standard but now has bags of character and go !
It's a tough balance between correcting misinformation, and giving something new, but you managed it perfectly here. Great enthusiastic and interesting review.
I love stuff like that 924 Jack ! Kind of a “hot rod” version of the original…. Awesome 😎.
Thanks Jack, the smile of a man who enjoys to drive & doesn't have to fix anything on it either!
Good review, & a well sorted car by the looks of it, well done to the owner!
Keep these films coming, really enjoy the quirky cars!!!
Love videos like this, really interesting quirky car, more like this please Jack.
Jack, great review. Keep them coming!
I still like the look of these and to be fair a more affordable Porsche nicely done super charger conversion .
This is a great video, reviews on interesting cars are always fun.
Ciprian does so much cool stuff with 924s. :)
I used to have a 924 Turbo (you seemingly missed that out of the 924 intro at the beginning). It was great, probably the opposite of this supercharged car in that there was very little below about 3,000 rpm, but above that the boost kicked in and it got very interesting indeed. These cars are so well balanced, it's a shame there's all this "not a real Porsche" snobbery.
Yes amazing video. I love my 944. Even low in power it’s amazing around turns. Best slow car I have ever owned.
my god pete you are everywhere
Very nice jack, always had a soft spot for the 924 👍
This randomly popped on my feed - what project and whine. Great delivery btw!
Thank you!!
Love the way the fuel gauge goes up as you accelerate!! Zero fuel costs!! :-)
And empty on RHD turns, full on LHD turns. It’s got a mind of its own!
That's my old 924, I blew the engine on it on the M5 and sold it while they were cheap and bought a 944s which I still have, lots of good times in a576 glr I do miss it, great to see it and hope its still going strong with its new supercharger 😮!!
used to like 924’s 928’s 944’s when I was growing up you dont see many about these days - Ir would be nice to see Porsche do some kind of relaunch
Great review, I had a 924s back in the day, happy memories. Nice to see you with a big smile on your face too!
To this day the 924 (best small GTi), with superior balanced road holding, the Citroen DS (most comfortable car) and the BMW E30 325i Touring (best hot hatch allowed me to win the race from Paris to the Belgium border from a Mini Cooper S. are the cars I once owned and still dearly miss ..... All fantastic cars
After a couple of GTIs, I had an imported ( to Canada) ‘82 924. What a great car to drive.
These cars are great, even without turbo chargers. Just rev. above 4000 rpm.
New brakelines will give you a rock hard pedal. You will be surprised. I myself really noticed quite a difference compared to the old ones.
The rubber gets old and feels spongy. Nice video!
Jack, I have sent you an email.
Finally got around to watching this as I was driving cross country last week. Such an interesting little car. I've seen V8 swaps but I'd guess the supercharger is better for weight distribution and handling is this cars sweet spot. Thanks for sharing 👍
Great video Jack. I used to have a 924 and loved it, but this supercharged one seems like great fun!
What a gem. Nice work builder.
My sister had a 924 turbo. Lovely to drive. Quick for the day and ultra practical as sporty cars go. I always felt that Porsche should have kept them going as a separate range alongside the 911s
Yep - keep this type of content coming! One off/quirky/ different usually comes with a good story. After my engineering brain gets satisfied, with the car, I get to enjoy the story.
Thanks for highlighting this very overlooked and underrated Porsche I thinks it's time has come. Should be referred to a 944 Narrow Body then there would be less sniffyness! I've now been looking on Autotrader what bargains if you want a left field 80's drivers car. Get one for the channel as your new next daily!
Never driven one but, always liked them. The type of thing which dosen't shout out. There are a load of cars which could be made better with a little more power, nothing crazy and this is just one example of that, the supercharger brings the pwerband changes and extra power needed. If you have a car with 750hp, don't mean it it 5x's better than somethig with 150hp. No matter the car, there are only certain speeds your going to get away with and with smaller/narrower tyres, 150hp is more than enough to get you into trouble and have fun in some cars.
Had the big brother 928 s2 manual
Great car……. Thought the 924 was a bit weedy😂..but the charger makes the difference 👌🏼all great handlers.
Nice to see that people do all sorts, to all sorts. Cheers Jack.
Cheers and thanks 🙏
That car is priceless! It’s got a full tank for gods sake, who can afford that 😀
love these type of vlogs cottage industry tuning exactly how RUF started !
Yeah loving this type of content
Was never a 924 fan and I’m still not looks wise but love the supercharger on this one. Cool concept
The Eaton-M45 was also used by Magnusson on their 'Magna-Charger' for the Honda GL1500C Valkyrie 6 cylinder motorcycle.
Heavy gearchange is because having the rear transaxle means the synchro's have to synchronise the propshaft speed as well as the intermediate shaft when you make a gearchange. Double de-clutching would help the synchro's, if not speed things up by much!
I would be changing the gearbox oil to synthetic, made a world of difference on my 944.
Love the original colour of the car!
Just keep doing what your doing! A good mix of content and all of it works !
Great, thanks!
Great video. I had a late model 944 Turbo back in the late 90's which was mildly modified to produce around 300bhp and very quick on boost but very noticeable turbo lag. I currently have a Mini Cooper S GP Works R53 which is supercharged and gives a very different feel to an old style turbo as no lag and quite like the supercharger whine.
2004 JCW here---probably not as quick as your GP although I've lightened it---love it
@@billmarsh3767 As much as I really like the GPs, it isn't hard to make a normal R53 as quick or even quicker than a GP. Stick on a 17% pulley and an intercooler and the car will outpace a stock GP.
suddenly I have a desire to buy a 924 and add this supercharger.
Interesting conversion, thanks Jack
I'm loving these videos where to drive other cars. Great stuff.
enjoyed the video, Ive always loved the 928 and would be interested in your review or a stock or modified version. Also, SAAB specifically a review of one of their more racy versions like my 9-5 Aero
I agree about the Saab - goes like a stabbed rat when you hit the loud pedal!
Do want to buy a Saab soon!
@@nekite1 3rd gear and we are gone!
I really love these reviews.
More please.
Another interesting car jack keep up these reviews I like em
Oh Yes!! I remember how my 78 924 was and how much fun it was on a slightly twisty road. I love little sports cars and honestly having too much power can ruin the pleasure of driving, at least for me. That said, a supercharged 924 sounds just as good an idea as a supercharged Mk1 Toyota MR2, and they were fantastic little cars!! By the way Jack, if you ever find a supercharged MR2 from the late 80's (87 and 88 I think) that would be a great review, short little "snikt" gear changes, the engine behind you and Toyota reliability. They were fun little cars!! Sorry back to the Porsche, If I had been offered the chance to supercharge my little 924 back in the 80's I would have jumped at the chance!! That's all it needed to be near perfect was about another 20 odd horsepower. Enough to pull up a hill with enough grunt left over to push you into your seat a bit, just that extra to carry you going into a turn on a road of twisty corners, but not enough to unexpectedly spin you off (looking at you 944 turbo and 5.0L Fox body Mustangs). What a great car!! Well done Sir, well done indeed @ Chris Madge!!
Cool car. IMO, the modern equivalents are the Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ brothers (followed by the Mazda MX-5 Miata, but that's not a direct matchup). Like the 86 / BRZ, nobody expected the 924 to be lust-worthy, or even fast, but the people who bought them had _fun_ .
My father had a 77' Martini and Rossi edition, which was beautiful, even though slow.
Great little car. I'm looking at putting a supercharger in my 84 944. I love that you run the same roads as Harry Metcalfe. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!! Good luck with your 944!
If you’re in the UK please come when project is done so we can do a video! Instagram is best to communicate, if not my email is bailable through YT contact bit.
If I was to have a Porsche I always wanted an 80's 911 or the 6 cylinder 914, but this is really cool! Dad's friends at the local Porsche Club who drive the GTR-500-RS-S Compensators would be so jealous! However, for the time being I will have to be content to refer to my 2008 Mazda 3 (humorously) as "The Mazdaratti." I still watch the commercials on your channel as promised but may take a brief take to refill the bourbon. Great video today and I hope you have great success, Jack. Hope you are well otherwise!
Bret
The engine is a Mercedes design originally for the DKW in 1.7 form 1st gen 100 C1 1968 when Mercedes had a Stake in DKW. Mercedes decided to sell to VAG and the basic architecture was used in Audis and VWs. Even the smaller engines golfs and polos used a similar Mercedes DNA. This includes the 5cylinders. The 1976 2.0 is a robust motor 115hp in 100 carburetor form.
Did you know in the US the AMC Gremlins had the same basic 2.0 fitted no doubt smog strangled.
Whilst not specifically designed for vans or the VW LT it was used. Its a rough sounding motor. But compared to a 2.0 pinto the camshaft lobes are wider than the Pinto cam lobes and load spread on the cam follower much better as well as oil feed. Valve adjustment is by adjustable wedge. I found a load of dealer manuals for my Audi C2 100 its the oldest in the UK.
The 924 Turbo was a superb thing back in the day. They're a bit expensive now though. This is a decent alternative.
Not the van engine thing again!? I'm not going to do my usual full history of that engine but it didn't start off in an Audi either.
Great film as usual
Great car
Really enjoyable vid Jack, keep it up 👍
Loved the video, really enjoyed the indepth information about the car.
One correction, the whining sound will be from the supercharger intake pulses, not the belt. Only gilmer belts will whine, but this car looks to have a multi-V belt driving the charger
Interesting, thank you!!
The owner seems to know what he's talking about, no bragging, oh it's got 250 bhp, it definitely sounds like it's supercharged Jack.
Great video, I've never quite got the 924, but this is an interesting car.
I’d love to see kit cars with interesting engines, a curiosity of mine has been the 6 cylinder Triumph Rocket motorcycle engine going into small lightweight cars Minis, Spitfires and Kit Cars.
My late fathers friend bought a new 924 Turbo in the late 80's.My dad liked it an went a Porsche dealership.They had a red 924 Carrera GT for sale.Dad was talking to the salesman whilst my brother sat in a new Gold 911 3.3 Turbo.Dad bought the 911.Imagine how much a 924 Carrera GT is worth now.lol
Another good review Jack. I'm glad you mentioned about the transaxle and gear change in these cars because it just shows how a correctly designed transaxle driveline should work. The Alfa transaxle driveline by comparison is an absolute disaster. Porsche used a single conventional flywheel and clutch arrangement on the back of the crank driving a shaft through a torque tube to the transaxle. The Alfa lashup used 2 flywheels, the engine flywheel driving through a high speed (engine rpm) shaft with rubber donuts at either end with the rear flywheel containing a bellhousing and clutch! Hillman Imps used rubber donuts and they were a disaster, even with 40hp. Now imagine a shaft running at 6000rpm underneath your feet trying to transmit 160 hp, held together with donuts...! m.ua-cam.com/video/wazZTont8v8/v-deo.html. Not dangerous at all...!!!
R52 sounds 🎉🎉
love to see you try and get into my Fiji Green BMW Z3...now THAT is quirky ! 😃
Hello Jack love the review videos too 😀 😊
Damn you Jack.......Back on Ebay searching for 924s....!
Love the variation in content on the channel - really works for me….as an aside I saw you out in the sprite this morning when I was out jogging - lovely morning for it and the car looked and sounded great…although I think you may have a brake light out…! 😬
Ha!! Yes that’s right, need to fix it for the Mot!
Had a friend who bought a 924 and his girlfriend was bragging he had a Porsche.We tried not to mock but were so ready to burst her bubble.You should try the 924 turbo amd compare the handling and power,brakes etc.Very interesting 🤔
Nice work Chris
I knew someone that had one of these lemons. He called it a "Push" instead of Porshe because it was always breaking down.
Love this car!
Brilliant car- had one for 4 years. Seeing as the original Porsche was based on VW mechanicals why not do it again? Plenty of other sports car makers used off the shelf mechanics from other makers. I replaced the 924 with a couple of 911s which were brilliant, 'of course' but not good enough 'for the money' compared to a 924.
loved the 924, ive owned 5 of them but sadly in the end they all ended up in the junk yard because you cant find new parts for them
I want one of these 924's!
Cool car! Would be even better if it was painted in it's original orange
The black is the original color, engine bay was painted when he did the engine ready for having the whole car done later!!
Give this 924 a Carrera GT kit and it'd really be something special.
Jack, the 924 Porsche is not a car we see a lot of over here in Australia. Like all the "non rear engine" Porsches they sort of remain the "poor" relative to the more popular 911 and its close family members. But it remains a Porsche none the less and I can imagine a lot nicer driver than many other cars from it's era.
Hello Jack nice video
Thought I was watching Harry's Garage for a minute! Is that not one of his favourite test roads!? :)
He lives nearby.
Ha! Awesome Jack
Don't stop there! Put it on a rolling road. Show us the horsepower and torque curves, Show us the brakes being sorted.
Cool car 👍
Is there a full build description looking to modify mine
924 944 was light years ahead In the 1970s its modern looking for 1976
That stretch of road must be very congested. It seems as if a lot of car bloggers use it. I recognise the right hand bend with the badly patched surface in the middle and the left hand bend with the uphill after it. Do you all have coffee at Harry Metcalf’s place every day?
I wish! I live very close to the road. I’ve seen him drive past but never met him.
Eaton
Good video,
Cool where do we get the supercharger kit from ? ☝👍👍🏿👍🏼
I beg your pardon what about the 931 aka the 924 Turbo I'm just asking because I own one🤔🧐
Do you ever have near misses with Harry Metcalfe going the other way? You could do a video series of cars destined for others that ended up being made by the consultancy or another. So 924 is one, the Elise was destined to be the MGF........next?! Nice review by the way!
Nice idea, thanks!
Nice idea, thanks!
Who is the guy in Romania who made this? do you have the contact info for either this owner or the creator of this kit?