There's actually a reason Olaf's Frozen Adventure is so long. It was originally going to be a TV special, but for some reason Disney said "Hey! Let's slap it in front of Coco to grab money and confuse even more people about the difference between Disney and Pixar!" Because we all know Disney is the king of cash grabs. (Just look at their marketing department!)
@Katie Lewis To be fair every Disney movie usually gets the November release date and Moana, Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph, and Tangled did well. I don’t see why they didn’t have faith in Coco to do well.
Should've stuck with their original idea of airing it on the disney tv networks ( abc, freeform, Disney channel). But no, the higher ups at Disney are like "💰 💰 💰"
They really did that in the beginning because they were scared Coco wasn't going to do well, so they put it before coco as a way to get some people in the theater
(mexican here) lots of people refused to go watch it if they didn't take it off and much more people just ended up waiting outside for half an hour, it was awkward as shit
Can't say I blame them. I mean as an American, I wanted to see Coco not Frozen. Disney just can't let go of their cash cow being everywhere. The special was decent though.
I don’t really think they needed this “short” to promote Frozen 2. I think it feels redundant to make a short film as a pre-trailer for the highest grossing animated film of all time. Just unnecessary. I would have much rather watched an ORIGINAL PIXAR short. Sometimes I enjoy watching the new short as much as the film. Pixar shorts are consistently creative, thought provoking, funny, and clever... Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was not. Disappointed we didn’t get a new quality Pixar short:(
I agree original Pixar shorts are way better, and why are they playing a non Pixar short too begin with? Coco is a Pixar movie... Frozen is Disney... (I know they are connected but still different studios) xx
Exactly! The one a few years ago, I think possibly before finding dori, with the little bird on the beach learning how to run into the water, I loved that one so much and it nearly made me cry. And I looked forward to another wonderful short before a wonderful movie, but I got a terrible short before a wonderful movie.
now that you bring it up it just completely hit me that, yeah, frozen is the ONE movie that definitely can do good without much advertising..... it's just that huge
Considering my family decided to wait to see Coco until the "short" is removed.... Yeah, you're probably right that the "short" didn't help Coco financially at all. I hope this doesn't mean disaster for Frozen 2, though. I want it to be good.
My reaction to Frozen 2: vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/e/e9/Arya_Stark_4.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/2000?cb=20140428152515
I think they put OFA in front of Coco because they were nervous that Coco would fail. It is a kids movie about dead people. So the Disney suits thought "hey kids like frozen, let's do that to get them into the theater." But then Coco turned out amazing and Frozen ended up hurting them
My biggest problem with the short was that it seemed to cram in a whole movie's worth of songs into the 22 minutes. The concept was fine. It went too long, but some of the jokes made me chuckle. But way too many songs. And, on a personal note, Elsa's much more social personality didn't click with me. I grew up with autism that went undiagnosed and I felt isolated and confined. I had a moment like her "Let It Go" moment, so the character really clicked with me. So the complete shift in her character was a bit odd for me.
See, the thing is that this change was ALWAYS going to happen with Elsa; because she's not the way she is in the first film naturally. That's not her actual personality. She is the way she is because of emotional issues caused by her parents. Once those emotional issues are solved, obviously her natural personality is going to come out. And her natural personality is apparently quite social - which makes sense, because she's a queen and HAS to be able to interact with people. I'm just saying, this was always coming.
LordofFullmetal You're completely right about that. All of your points make perfect sense. It just connected with *me* a little less because of it, which is not at all a requirement for the film to do.
Formoka YES, that's the big problem with everything that's come after Frozen. It's completely and uncomfortably out of character for Elsa to act the way she has been. The abrupt change from one of the most human Princess characters written thus far to a hollow, dressed up, always acting one certain way doll that exists to sell toys was so unnatural, it actually entered the uncanny valley for me, it's disturbing to watch. And if this is the way she acts in Frozen 2, the movie is doomed from the begining.
LordofFullmetal That's not true, that's not how emotional issues work. She's been that way her whole life, it will always be a part of her whether it was to begin with or not. It's not normal, natural, sensical, or well written in the slightest for Elsa to act the way she does in both Frozen shorts.
Emotional issues don't disappear with one 'act of true love'. It's hard and frustrating thing that takes a lot of time. Yes, love and help and care usually play a vital role, but it never is overnight. Maybe that would have been Elsa's personality if her parents didn't go 'oh, our daughter needs help controlling her powers? Let's lock her up and keep it a secret and not help her even though she'll one day be the queen!'. But they did and Elsa's new personality shouldn't go on and off like a switch.
Yeah I went and got popcorn like 15 minutes into the Olaf thing, if that says anything about it. Also a lady on my way out was like “is this Coco?” so she was def confused.
Yasmin Grasse I went to a movie screening once ( I’m not quite sure what movie it was,) and the Piper short played before it (the one with the birds) and I was with someone, and when it started playing I was like, ‘ are we at the wrong movie or something?’ So yeah. I relate to that one woman.
What?! 😱 Well, I loved the short, BUT Coco is exactly on another level!!! That is, for me it's a Masterpiece (in addition to being my favorite movie EVER, I had never had one despite the crazy love for animation and cinema, and this says something about how much I consider it simply wonderful), has me hit not only in the heart but in the soul, I will have cried for the 75% minimum of the movie, I felt it mine for EVERYTHING... how is it possible not to love Coco, I say? I'm a shocked moment, I have to recover 😰
How? Like, the short was pretty good to me, but Coco is literally my favorite movie of all time. I can't see how Olaf manages to beat Coco in any way, shape, or form.
Me: When Seamus uploads again I hope it’s a video about Coco! And I get Olaf. Yay. But that means we get to see rant mode Seamus, which is always a good thing.
I needed to tell someone else my Harry Potter/Fantastic Beasts Theory. I had just had an idea about Creedence after reading the Ilvermorny story on Pottermore. It describes twin daughters belonging to one of the last(?) American Slytherin heirs. One daughter was said to not have reproduced because she inherited the Parseltongue ability and didn't want to continue the bloodline. However, since the other sister was a Squib who married (and lived life as) a No-Maj, there's no reason to assume that if they had kids and grandkids, etc, one of those heirs might have magical abilities, or even be able to speak Parseltongue. Could Creedence possibly be a distant descendent of Slytherin (and the Ilvermorny founders)? His parents are unknown, and his Obscurial seemed to be even more powerful than others described, since he was able to survive into his teens. I need to look into this more, but yeah, could be a theory.
Omg they had a squid? That's kinda unusual, even for wizards... I mean how does that work do you have a squid somewhere far back in the family line and do the squidlike features show through in the child, or did she just have some sort of weird mutation that caused her to have tentacles?
I had the same feelings as everyone else. Me and some of my family went to see Coco and we experienced the short. I was thinking that yeah, Pixar has shorts and Disney wanted to promote Frozen 2, but after a good 10 minutes, the five kids we brought asked if we were going to see Coco. My sister actually wondered aloud if we were in the right theater. It was a bit much, I will admit.
My family and I knew there was going to be a short, but the groups around us started asking when it would play, I just said there was always a short before the movie. 20 minutes later, I was starting to not believe that.
Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was made to be a Christmas special for ABC. They only put OFA in front of Coco because Pixar didn’t have enough time to make a short for Coco and year they still showed it on ABC. The REAL reason why they pulled it early from theaters is in fact because so many people complained about it after Disney did what they could to advertise the fact that OFA was going to be in front of Coco. I knew ahead of time that OFA was to be in front of Coco and didn’t like the idea all that much and then I saw it and enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
Being Mexican and having seen this movie 3 times in Mexico I remember that the short was only shown the first time i watched it, and the other times the short was removed
I went to see this with three of my nephews and one niece. After hearing you say most kids lost interest and started getting restless during the film makes me proud of their ability to sit and watch movies. We take them to see movies quite often though. I personally really enjoyed the short, and the part when Elsa and Anna realized Olaf was their Christmas tradition made me teary eyed. I thought it was sweet. I was unaware that people were getting upset about the short. I was aware that the short was playing before Coco because there was trailers, and there was a big card board Coco movie poster at the theater I go to that had "Olaf's frozen adventure" at the bottom of it saying it was playing first. I also let my niece and nephews know that it was playing before Coco. I also bought the soundtrack before I seen the movie. lol I feel like I'm alone in my opinion but that's okay. I'm sorry not everyone has enjoyed it like my family did.
when I went to see coco on opening night (in the united states) we reserved 3D tickets about a week before. when we got to the theatre, they said the 3D wasn’t working, so i had to see coco in 2D. the theatre gave us a few free 3D tickets for any movie and they didn’t expire. when the movie began i knew there would be a short before the movie started. about halfway through the short i wasn’t sure i was in the right theatre or not, but i stuck with it and the story line just dragged on and on. the movie was supposed to start at 10:20pm and we got home at 1:45am. i loved the movie despite all of the negatives! i ended up using the free tickets to see coco again in 3D. before we went into the theatre, the ticket checkers would tell everyone that there was a 25-ish minute long short before the movie. during the previews the 3D wasn’t working again, but they fixed it right before the frozen short began. I 100000% recommend seeing Coco in 3D!!!!!!! it was completely worth the struggle
it also had to do with cultural representation. pixar had finally made a beautiful film about hispanic culture with a (mostly) hispanic cast to top it off. years of research and detail went into this film to make it authentic to the culture, but disney didn't care about that. by putting in olaf's frozen adventure, it shows that they just wanted money, and figured putting an excruciatingly long short with an all white cast would bring people in. People were considering this cultural appropriation because they were advertising the short more than the movie. (In the US and Mexico at least). When they premiered it in Mexico, people found it offensive. Their culture was finally being represented, but all they could think about were the awful songs that came beforehand. Disney just couldn't let there be a cultural movie without something to reminding them of well... white people. It sounds like a stretch, but that was essentially what its saying. I know for sure that was one of the main reasons it stopped playing in Mexico. Sorry for that being really long, I hope it made sense. If anyone gets this far in the comments lmk. I'd love to have a discussion about this topic.
I haven't seen Coco or Olaf's Frozen adventure, but I agree! I was never really interested in the white culture I was born into and was much more interested in foreign cultures and holidays, like Dia de Los Muertos (I think I spelled that right). I enjoy learning about Spanish culture and if I had to sit through Olaf's Frozen Adventure before seeing something about Latino people and a Mexican holiday I would be pretty mad even if I would've watched it with no problem on TV. (Which was how Olaf's Frozen Adventure was supposed to air anyway-as a TV special!)
amethyst_ cat it's not about the interest in white culture, it's more about the fact that it was so long and there was only white people in it. and like i mentioned before, the way they advertised it. I completely agree though. If it did premiere on TV, I would've definitely watched it, but having it in front of coco was just a distraction. And it's not even memorable! If you do see it, let me know what you think.
TBH, I'm not convinced it's about race. They didn't do the same thing to Moana, and Moana has an all non-white set of characters too. In fact, Imma guess they won't even do that before Black Panther (a Disney owned movie). There's little to no evidence to suggest that your theory is actually correct, and that you're not just being bitter and angry over something that really doesn't matter that much. It's not like they white washed the actual cast of the film. Why are you so angry about the race of pre-established, unrelated characters who happened to be in a short that took place before that movie? They always have a short, so what short SHOULD they have done that wouldn't have pissed you off? And fyi, of COURSE all of Frozen's characters are white. It's meant to be set in the Finland/Norway region, which is one of the whitest areas in the entire world. It would be ridiculously historically inaccurate to have black characters there, especially in a time period before mass travel existed. If it's wrong to white wash characters who historically should've been black, why is it ok to paint characters black who historically, definitely should not have been black? It's about FROZEN, not the race of the cast. Not sure if you noticed, but Frozen was the most wildly successful film they have EVER done; and they've been coasting off the popularity ever since. That's all it is, bro. They still think people are obsessed enough with Frozen to be ok with watching a twenty minute long Frozen related short before a different movie. They were wrong, because people are kinda over Frozen at this point. Anything else is just people looking too deeply into it because they want a reason to be pissed off.
LordofFullmetal I completely understand your points. I can't take this opinion personally because I am not myself latinx. However, I am one of the few Disney fans who doesn't look for a reason to complain but rather a reason to debate. I was sharing this opinion as I've seen a lot of people express their thoughts and I thought it would be a good conversation to have. I agree, I do not think it would be appropriate to have a black person in frozen. I also don't think they should've put this in front of coco. Obviously this isn't completely about race, and I am in no way accusing Disney of something of that realm, (and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was). There was a quote by someone they interviewed and it went something like "for years we've been swallowed by your culture, for once it would be nice for you to be swallowed by ours." I thought that was an interesting thing to say, and (franchises aside) putting frozen in front of coco kind of felt off after hearing that.
If Disney was going to make a short in front of Coco, they could’ve at least made it about a Hispanic kid or something, maybe celebrating Dia de Los Muertos, or something like that, to keep it in the same culture/theme as the movie we paid to watch. But that’s just my opinion
Am I only one who really liked this short movie? It had feelings, good songs, Elsa's new amazing dress, plot points from the past, deeper meaning to Olaf, not too much Olaf, great ice power thingys, great animation, representation of northern culture, etc.
I am going to watch coco today or this weekend and I just looked on the website of the cinemas in Vienna (where I live) and it actually says :COCO plus Kurzfilm „DIE EISKÖNIGIN:OLAF TAUT AUF“! Thats German for Coco plus short movie "Olafs Frozen Adventure" (by the way the german title actually means The frozen queen/ice queen: Olaf is melting/ Olaf is thawing) . And they wrote it into the content. Saying: Accompany Olaf in a winter wonderland for 20 minutes and search for the greatest holiday traditions before you watch Disney Pixars Coco. I am glad they wrote it on the home page, because I really want to see the short and I would have been disappointed if they didn't play it.
I truly loved it, because my family really doesn't have a Christmas tradition, it's about us being together. I was totally bawling 😂😭 It was just so dear to *me*. I do agree it was pretty long. (It reminded me of a Barbie movie cuz of all the songs)
I did some research, and apparently Olaf's Frozen Adventure was originally supposed to air on ABC as a holiday special, but that got cancelled, so Disney decided to cram it in front of Coco. They actually made another short called Smash and Grab that was originally supposed to be Coco's short. I don't know what they'll do with it now; they'll probably either release it for Coco when it his DVD, or save it for their next movie, which I believe is Incredibles 2.
Stephen T I saw it airing on ABC a week ago or two, but that was after they removed it from theaters. When I saw Coco on the day it came out, I liked the Frozen short, but Coco definitely was better off without it. Disney just couldn't help but be too generous since Pixar didn't have a short of their own ready in time for Coco.
i thought that by the time coco premiered around the world, they would have already removed the short, or at least moved it to the end (so that those that wanted to see could still do it) coco came out in mexico almost a month before it came out everywhere else, and the olaf short was a removed here after 1 week and a half of screening, so don't get your hopes up about them removing it at all
so like yes i agree the frozen short was like a cram session where is wouldn't end and there was just song after song after song, but the literal only reason my family went to coco with me is because of the frozen short, they were hung up on the whole book of life is coco thing so they didn't want to see a "repeat" of the same movie or whatever, thankfully after they agreed with me that coco was great and the frozen short was like staring at a never ending musical for 20 minutes.
As a short film, Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was decent and would be great if it was shown as a TV Special. However, putting it in theaters, especially before Coco, made the short film extremely annoying.
I remember sitting in the theatre and 15 minutes in to the short I turned to my mom and said “You sure this is the right theatre? I thought we were here to see coco”. I also remember everyone in the theatre had a very confused look on their faces.
5:50 For my theater, the timers for the lights were tricked and turned on 5 minutes BEFORE THE CREDITS ROLLED. SO we spent the last 5 minutes watching the end of COCO with a glare on the screen. NO WONDER THEATERS WANT IT OUT ITS MESSING UP THEIR TIMING (for the automatic house lights that automatically come on a few minutes in the credits but THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE THEY CAME ON BEFORE THE FILM ENDED!)
About one-sixth of the market would disappear into thin air and Disney would have to hype another movie to saturate the market with and shove down our throats
I completely agree that the Frozen short didn't help Coco at all. Once I heard it was there, I literally waited until it was gone to go see it. I think I saw the movie two days after Disney took it off. I don't want to waste my time in seeing something I know I'm not going to like. I hope Coco gets more success now that Olaf is gone, but either way, it probably still did some damage.
when i saw coco i went with my dad and little sister. after olaf’s frozen adventure, my dad said “welp that’s the movie” and my four year old sister was very confused.
EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING went wrong with this short. We had it AND other movie previews in ours. It took 45 minutes to get the actual movie. We could've had a full meal at a nearby restaurant and shown up late and still been there before Coco started.
It wasn't mentioned here, but another big reason the short got a lot of grief here in America was because this movie was part of a diversity campaign for Latinx in a place where (despite having a large Latinx population) we weren't really seen on screen like this. For a lot of people (including myself) it felt disheartening that with a film that was supposed to showcase my racial and ethnic diversity, they had a 22 minute short beforehand without any minority characters. I remember sitting in the theater surrounded by all these other Latinx families there for the same reason I was--to see my culture and my people represented for these kids; a huge move forward in a country where Latinx-Americans such as myself are viewed as second-class citizens--and being frustrated that we couldn't even have this one film for us. They still had to slap on an overtly long short, featuring their highest profiting (white) character cast. It almost felt like they were worried a story with a diverse main cast set in a less-Westernized culture would flop without Frozen there to save it. This kid next to me was so sad, like legitimately sad, and asked (in Spanish) where Coco was. It was the weirdest thing to have a short like that which was supposed to be funny, and to have so few of the children there laugh at the jokes. Kids usually laugh at everything that's even remotely funny, but these kids didn't. Disney let them down. I'm glad those who see it now can truly enjoy Coco without the short beforehand now, even if the decision was made for purely economic reasons. It deserves to stand on its own.
This short wasn't even meant to go with this movie though. It was a random tv featurette that they chucked in front of a different movie. I don't understand why people are upset about a totally unrelated short which is set in a totally different area with pre-established characters not having minority characters - and believe me, I KNOW what it feels like to be a minority. I'm a bisexual woman. You think you're marginalised? Most people don't even believe bisexuality EXISTS. They didn't do this with Moana, which also features a completely non-white cast. The simple truth is that there's NO evidence any concerns about race are legitimate in this particular situation. Disney has SHOWN recently that they have zero problem banking on diverse films being successful. This is far from their first diverse film at this point, and they've never done this before - so any concerns you have come out sounding like you think your group is for some reason more marginalised than any other. It's probably not, let's be real. There's simply no evidence that this was a racially motivated action. You're taking a coincidence and making it a bigger deal than it is. Would you be this upset if they'd done a Moana short that was twenty two minutes long? I mean, it's still a different race to your own. Or are you literally just reacting this way because it's considered ok in modern society to trash white people without an actual reason? It is FAR more likely that this simply has to do with the fact that Frozen is the number one most successful movie Disney has EVER done, than it is that it's a racial thing. Trust me, they're throwing Frozen into EVERYTHING. Not just this one movie.
@@LordofFullmetal Oh my god, this is the most bigoted ignorant short-sighted naive moronic comment! You should be ashamed of yourself. I can't even begin to explain all the things wrong with your way of thinking here, but know that your perspective is absolutely disgusting.
Dude, they're Norwegian. They're supposed to be white. Of course Disney will use these charachters as much as possible, they made the company millions of dollars. How would it sound if a white person said "I went to see a movie with an all white cast, but the short had latino people! This ruined my experience of the movie!" No offense, but I think you're seeing racism where there isn't any.
I am so happy that the short is gone. I was scared that the short would carry Coco and not the actual movie but clearly most people are mad about Olaf's Frozen Adventure and this could mean that it could be possible to get more originals, which are usually the best Pixar movies.
I was at the movie theater, and I saw it say “Olaf’s frozen adventure” right in front of the poster. And I really just stared at it in complete disbelief.
I was so confused when the short was so long. It just never seemed to end... But the movie was incredible and totally drove that out of my mind. It's by far my favourite pixar movie
That “short” made my dad fall ASLEEP!! I HATED it!! And what was HILARIOUS was the SECOND that Frozen “short” came on there was a loud annoyed “AAAAAAAAAAAH”!!
I went to go see it with my Spanish club from school, and I must say, I got INSANELY confused. I was wondering if our entire club (of 28 people!) was in the wrong place, and I know Pixar shorts exist before every movie. When we walked in and it was starting, I figured it was a short. I just kept getting more confused until finally I decided that we were in the right theater (we took up 2 whole rows and no one tried to take our seats) and this was just one really long short. But it just kept dragging on and on. And I don’t even like frozen! AT ALL! No offense if you do, but I came to see Coco, a movie about Día de los muertos. Not frozen 2. So it was definitely a good idea to remove it from theaters, but I wish they had another short to replace it since I really like them.
I personally loved this short. xD But yeah, I get the problem. I was in theatres for Coco and I was happy, because I love Frozen, but most kids seemed to be annoyed and kept asking when Coco was finally gonna start.
I'm grateful for it though! Just because we got the wrong time for the showing and were about 20 minutes late. So I'm glad that I didn't miss the start!
all of this stuff would make _watching_ the short bad but what I wanna know (as someone who never saw it) is the actual short good and enjoyable? like if it wasnt played before coco and was an actual thing people watched willingly would it be good?
My theater in northern Michigan in Mackinaw City posted about Olaf's Adventure on their website, on their ticket, and mentioned that Olaf's Adventure would be limited time thing. Nobody in the theater complained. We just enjoyed it and then went into Coco.
I think my local cinema advertized the Frozen short more than Coco itself lol. I went there with my 6 yr old cousin (a huge Frozen fan) and that short was the main reason why he wanted to go to the cinema...but he was excited for Coco as well! (and ended up loving Coco just as much as I did) I didn't hate the "featurette" but I would have preferred an original short movie like in previous pixar movies :) nice video! and excuse my english if there are any mistakes ^^
My mom actually works for Disney, has for about a decade now, so we go to a lot of screenings down at the studio lot in Glendale. When we went, since this was a theater filled with Disney employees, everyone knew about the short. But even then, people kept muttering, "Is the movie starting soon," or, "God this is long." And when the short wrapped up everyone just kind of looked at each other with confusion and disbelief.
Maybe you should tell your mom to tell Iger that the whole world is sick and tired of Frozen and want something new, original, and even better than Frozen! Also, have Frozen 2 cancelled and never be brought back to production ever again!
in mexico, so many people complained about the short, theatres stopped showing it. they were also confused as to why there was a christmas short when it was 2 months away. (the movie was released in mexico before it was released in the united states)
I was also on a time constraint when I went to see Coco (granted for me it was to get to work on time and my job was 2-3 minutes down the road from the cinema) I admitngly watch a lot of TV, and no trailer I saw for Coco mentioned Olaf's Frozen Adventure. The only thing I saw mention the "short" was a standee for Coco in the theatre on the day I went to see it. Though I have to admit, fitting four original songs into that short of a time frame is impressive.
I live in Swizzerland where the Pixar movies come out 3 Months later (because of dubbing in German), they actually wrote under the movie Coco that there will be a short movie with the frozen characters...
Is it weird that I love watching Seamus complain and explain thoroughly why things are problematic? These are my fave videos of Seamus': 1. "Why does EVERYONE think.....?" playlist 2. The Pixar shorts CREATE PROBLEMS!!!!!! 3. What went wrong with Olaf's Frozen Adventure
I really agree with you. The "short" wasn't so horrible in my opinion, but it definitely wasn't great. I knew about the "short" before going and was already laughing my way to the movie theatre like, "HA! A 20 minute SHORT!" What's sad is that I liked Frozen. The characters were great, the story was good- it's a good movie. But the "short?" It made some of the characters feel really off. Olaf was the major one- they did a fantastic job of keeping him funny and cute in Frozen. A character like him is very hard to pull off as lovable, but Disney did it. But in the "short?" He managed to start annoying even me, someone who finds it very difficult to be annoyed by 'cutesy' stuff. Olaf just seemed...really ditzy. Sure, he's supposed to be played that way for comedic effect, which also happened in the original movie. However, in the "short", his mentality just came off as dumb. Some of the other characters were like this, too. Mostly, I think it was Kristoff and Sven- their dynamic didn't feel right and their comedic effect was jacked wayyy up. To sum up this overlong analyzation, I didn't care too much for the "short." I absolutely LOVED Coco! :D (Don't mind the edits; I'm a grammar freak xD)
ITS THAT FACT THAT IT WAS 22 MINUTES LONG AND BASED OFF OF A CHARACTER FROM AN ALREADY EXISTING SERIES WHICH COULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK THEY WENT TO THE WRONG THEATER
Personally, I didn’t like Frozen. Not at all. I love Elsa, don’t get me wrong but her character developed and then went right back down to zero. She was scared, then she sang her dog and seemed all awesome and said she wouldn’t be afraid anymore, and then she went right back to being a frightened little sheep. Her powers weren’t explained well enough for me and- - I digress. I really want to see Coco but I don’t want to sit through a Frozen TV episode (basically) and risk losing my good seat. I live in Chicago, it’s possible to lose a foot in these theaters because there are so many people
Just one point though - why does Elsa's magic need to be EXPLAINED? It's magic. By definition, explaining it fucks it up. You're not meant to explain magic, or it's not magic anymore. Did you also get mad that the fairy godmother isn't explained in Cinderella? That the witch isn't explained in Brave? That Mother Gothel and her powers aren't explained properly in Tangled? NO magic in Disney is ever properly explained, because that would make it not feel like magic anymore.
When the short film was playing before Coco when I was watching it two teenagers left the cinema. They thought they where in the wrong movie cause it was so long. Shocking, I know...
What's going on inside Olaf's head? I think Joy would definitely be his lead emotion, so you can start with that. You've analysed animals, toys, monsters, superheroes and robots, so why not do a snowman?
In Brazil, instead of showing it before Coco in the cinema, they showed it before the release of Coco. It was shown in the TV on Chrismas day.(In Brazil Coco was released only on January 4th)
Loll I'm gonna go see Coco again today and me and my sister are planning on going in at least 10 minuites into the Frozen short so we don't gotta see the whole thing. XD
I loved the short! I thought it was very cinematic and had great music. I loved Coco and went to see it again yesterday because they were supposed to still be playing the short but it didn't play and I was so upset! Coco was absolutely amazing though!
I have seen every Pixar film in theatres, (barely, I'm 22 and saw Toy Story when I was a baby, but still, every one in theatres) and am always super excited for my Pixar short before the film. My boyfriend isn't big on seeing films in theatres, and had only seen a couple Pixar films, but I had convinced him to see Coco with me because I really wanted to see it, and I wanted him to come with me. But Olaf came on the screen when my Pixar short came on the screen. He had no idea what was going on, and didn't even know the characters, as he hasn't seen Frozen. (And thought I've explained it to him, he doesn't think it sounds interesting.) I however, was fuming because I could only remember being 19 and living with my 9 year old cousin back when Frozen came out, and being super into it so we could connect, but completely hating it now. And the fact that this short felt like it would never end. We did end up liking Coco (and I can say it's the 4th Pixar film I have cried in, the others being Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3), but we weren't thrilled about the short, and were pleased to later hear it was being pulled from theatres.
If you notice the resolution on the film. It's playing on a widescreen, which is meant for television. And you know where this short was going to originally play, ON TV
It was 22 minutes long because that’s the standard running time for a half hour tv show in the U.S. And it was pulled after eleven days because Disney, who owns ABC, ran it in the States as a holiday special on tv. Sorry if someone else has already said this.
Omg, finally! I was soooo confused when I was at the cinema and they started showing this Frozen thingie. And it JUST. WOULDN'T. END. I legitimately thought that they had put in the wrong movie and was about to go and tell one of the employees, when FINALLY, this HORRIBLE experience ended....
When Olaf’s frozen adventure ended someone behind me in the theatre said”was that the movie”.😂😂😂
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bibafett aka, jabba the hutton Lol 😂!!!
olof is on a drug trip
bibafett aka, jabba the hutton 😂
Omg 😂😅
A 40 minute SuperCarlinBrouthers AND a Seamus Gorman video
Is it my birthday?!?!?!?!?!?!
Anna Fuller happy birthday!
Anna Fuller that was fast and your welcome!😀
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There's actually a reason Olaf's Frozen Adventure is so long. It was originally going to be a TV special, but for some reason Disney said "Hey! Let's slap it in front of Coco to grab money and confuse even more people about the difference between Disney and Pixar!"
Because we all know Disney is the king of cash grabs. (Just look at their marketing department!)
illumination is the true king 😔🙏 at least disney puts effort into their stuff for the most part, even if it’s something frozen-y
@Katie Lewis To be fair every Disney movie usually gets the November release date and Moana, Frozen, Wreck-It Ralph, and Tangled did well. I don’t see why they didn’t have faith in Coco to do well.
Should've stuck with their original idea of airing it on the disney tv networks ( abc, freeform, Disney channel). But no, the higher ups at Disney are like "💰 💰 💰"
They really did that in the beginning because they were scared Coco wasn't going to do well, so they put it before coco as a way to get some people in the theater
In Mexico the removed the short after a week and some people say that it was because everyone was complaining
Paola R they didn't, it was not because of complaints, geez
(mexican here) lots of people refused to go watch it if they didn't take it off and much more people just ended up waiting outside for half an hour, it was awkward as shit
is because they where mad at Olaf, they compared it to the minion contrast how I compare Olaf to Scrat
Can't say I blame them. I mean as an American, I wanted to see Coco not Frozen. Disney just can't let go of their cash cow being everywhere. The special was decent though.
"I wonder what happened to him" XD
Seampai noticed me XD
His mom beat him probably
raven Black Probably
If it was like me and my mum, then yeah, that kid would’ve got the popcorn beaten out of them for embarrassing their mum
He was Smacked
I was beginning to get worried the movie would not start and I KNOW they have shorts before their films!
I know, and I knew that it was going to be that long but still!
Ursula C
I haven't even seen it yet
Ursula C Samee
same here. inside the cinema, the kid next to me actually ask if they went on the right cinema.
I think it will be released 2019
I don’t really think they needed this “short” to promote Frozen 2. I think it feels redundant to make a short film as a pre-trailer for the highest grossing animated film of all time. Just unnecessary. I would have much rather watched an ORIGINAL PIXAR short. Sometimes I enjoy watching the new short as much as the film. Pixar shorts are consistently creative, thought provoking, funny, and clever... Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was not. Disappointed we didn’t get a new quality Pixar short:(
I agree original Pixar shorts are way better, and why are they playing a non Pixar short too begin with? Coco is a Pixar movie... Frozen is Disney... (I know they are connected but still different studios) xx
Tori Wood I would have been fine with the short, if it had just been a dvd feature on this movie or any other movie, right?
Exactly! The one a few years ago, I think possibly before finding dori, with the little bird on the beach learning how to run into the water, I loved that one so much and it nearly made me cry. And I looked forward to another wonderful short before a wonderful movie, but I got a terrible short before a wonderful movie.
not everyone follows new released movies. A lot of people probably didnt know since there's been rumours of Frozen 2 since the first one came out
now that you bring it up it just completely hit me that, yeah, frozen is the ONE movie that definitely can do good without much advertising..... it's just that huge
Considering my family decided to wait to see Coco until the "short" is removed.... Yeah, you're probably right that the "short" didn't help Coco financially at all.
I hope this doesn't mean disaster for Frozen 2, though. I want it to be good.
Patrick R exactly. All of it.
Patrick R why
NightcoreVortex 😱
Patrick R old Elsa "the cold never bothered me anyway"
New Elsa "these neices never bothered Anna anyway"
My reaction to Frozen 2: vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/e/e9/Arya_Stark_4.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/2000?cb=20140428152515
I think they put OFA in front of Coco because they were nervous that Coco would fail. It is a kids movie about dead people. So the Disney suits thought "hey kids like frozen, let's do that to get them into the theater."
But then Coco turned out amazing and Frozen ended up hurting them
Actually they started making the short for TV, then they later decided to put it in front of Coco
“Actually” your comment doesn’t oppose theirs in any way?
My biggest problem with the short was that it seemed to cram in a whole movie's worth of songs into the 22 minutes. The concept was fine. It went too long, but some of the jokes made me chuckle. But way too many songs. And, on a personal note, Elsa's much more social personality didn't click with me. I grew up with autism that went undiagnosed and I felt isolated and confined. I had a moment like her "Let It Go" moment, so the character really clicked with me. So the complete shift in her character was a bit odd for me.
See, the thing is that this change was ALWAYS going to happen with Elsa; because she's not the way she is in the first film naturally. That's not her actual personality. She is the way she is because of emotional issues caused by her parents. Once those emotional issues are solved, obviously her natural personality is going to come out. And her natural personality is apparently quite social - which makes sense, because she's a queen and HAS to be able to interact with people.
I'm just saying, this was always coming.
LordofFullmetal You're completely right about that. All of your points make perfect sense. It just connected with *me* a little less because of it, which is not at all a requirement for the film to do.
Formoka YES, that's the big problem with everything that's come after Frozen. It's completely and uncomfortably out of character for Elsa to act the way she has been. The abrupt change from one of the most human Princess characters written thus far to a hollow, dressed up, always acting one certain way doll that exists to sell toys was so unnatural, it actually entered the uncanny valley for me, it's disturbing to watch. And if this is the way she acts in Frozen 2, the movie is doomed from the begining.
LordofFullmetal That's not true, that's not how emotional issues work. She's been that way her whole life, it will always be a part of her whether it was to begin with or not. It's not normal, natural, sensical, or well written in the slightest for Elsa to act the way she does in both Frozen shorts.
Emotional issues don't disappear with one 'act of true love'. It's hard and frustrating thing that takes a lot of time. Yes, love and help and care usually play a vital role, but it never is overnight. Maybe that would have been Elsa's personality if her parents didn't go 'oh, our daughter needs help controlling her powers? Let's lock her up and keep it a secret and not help her even though she'll one day be the queen!'. But they did and Elsa's new personality shouldn't go on and off like a switch.
Yeah I went and got popcorn like 15 minutes into the Olaf thing, if that says anything about it. Also a lady on my way out was like “is this Coco?” so she was def confused.
Yasmin Grasse I went to a movie screening once ( I’m not quite sure what movie it was,) and the Piper short played before it (the one with the birds) and I was with someone, and when it started playing I was like, ‘ are we at the wrong movie or something?’ So yeah. I relate to that one woman.
Olaf summed up this short pretty good. "So the surprise is everyone left"
Makes so much sense 😂😂😂
My parents said they preferred the short more than coco. I wanted to slap them
What?! 😱 Well, I loved the short, BUT Coco is exactly on another level!!! That is, for me it's a Masterpiece (in addition to being my favorite movie EVER, I had never had one despite the crazy love for animation and cinema, and this says something about how much I consider it simply wonderful), has me hit not only in the heart but in the soul, I will have cried for the 75% minimum of the movie, I felt it mine for EVERYTHING... how is it possible not to love Coco, I say? I'm a shocked moment, I have to recover 😰
I liked both equally 😁
Woah! calm down my dude, it's just an opinion.
How? Like, the short was pretty good to me, but Coco is literally my favorite movie of all time. I can't see how Olaf manages to beat Coco in any way, shape, or form.
how-
Here’s the problem:
It wasn’t a Pixar Short before a Pixar Film! Batman Out.
BeCuz I'm Batman did u watch the whole video
Lmfao. I need more comments like this
Exactly!
And then "Toy Story 4" didn't even HAVE short film before it! Like, come on, Pixar! What's goin' on here?
Me: The world's greatest detective is right... What the Batman? You like Frozen too.
Me: When Seamus uploads again I hope it’s a video about Coco!
And I get Olaf. Yay. But that means we get to see rant mode Seamus, which is always a good thing.
Creepy Jar of Money sadly Seamus lives in the UK and unless he went to see it in a US cinema, Coco isnt out in the UK til mid to late Janurary
Sam Tooms He flew to the Netherlands to see Coco. He made a whole video about it.
I love how your comment is basically the entire video
I don’t like angry Seamus. But I do like when he educates his subscribers and calls out the stupid people who think that films are other films.
I needed to tell someone else my Harry Potter/Fantastic Beasts Theory.
I had just had an idea about Creedence after reading the Ilvermorny story on Pottermore. It describes twin daughters belonging to one of the last(?) American Slytherin heirs. One daughter was said to not have reproduced because she inherited the Parseltongue ability and didn't want to continue the bloodline. However, since the other sister was a Squib who married (and lived life as) a No-Maj, there's no reason to assume that if they had kids and grandkids, etc, one of those heirs might have magical abilities, or even be able to speak Parseltongue. Could Creedence possibly be a distant descendent of Slytherin (and the Ilvermorny founders)? His parents are unknown, and his Obscurial seemed to be even more powerful than others described, since he was able to survive into his teens.
I need to look into this more, but yeah, could be a theory.
Emma Norris Hey Everyone needs to check out this coco theory ua-cam.com/video/hDDVQgFW3Jo/v-deo.html
Omg this makes sense..why didn't it click earlier
Omg they had a squid? That's kinda unusual, even for wizards... I mean how does that work do you have a squid somewhere far back in the family line and do the squidlike features show through in the child, or did she just have some sort of weird mutation that caused her to have tentacles?
he means Squib, just a typo :D
i have already seen this theory somewhere,and i like it
I had the same feelings as everyone else. Me and some of my family went to see Coco and we experienced the short. I was thinking that yeah, Pixar has shorts and Disney wanted to promote Frozen 2, but after a good 10 minutes, the five kids we brought asked if we were going to see Coco. My sister actually wondered aloud if we were in the right theater. It was a bit much, I will admit.
I Mexico they removed the "short" after few days because of the heavy complains
Good
When I watched the film I was like, "Wait, is the short....the movie?!?"
Better plot twist then Snape :0
Dun dun dun
Jay Wing Snape? Lool
Echo Tango lol i never thought you would compare that to Snape
My family and I knew there was going to be a short, but the groups around us started asking when it would play, I just said there was always a short before the movie. 20 minutes later, I was starting to not believe that.
Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was made to be a Christmas special for ABC. They only put OFA in front of Coco because Pixar didn’t have enough time to make a short for Coco and year they still showed it on ABC. The REAL reason why they pulled it early from theaters is in fact because so many people complained about it after Disney did what they could to advertise the fact that OFA was going to be in front of Coco. I knew ahead of time that OFA was to be in front of Coco and didn’t like the idea all that much and then I saw it and enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
Being Mexican and having seen this movie 3 times in Mexico I remember that the short was only shown the first time i watched it, and the other times the short was removed
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I went to see this with three of my nephews and one niece. After hearing you say most kids lost interest and started getting restless during the film makes me proud of their ability to sit and watch movies. We take them to see movies quite often though. I personally really enjoyed the short, and the part when Elsa and Anna realized Olaf was their Christmas tradition made me teary eyed. I thought it was sweet. I was unaware that people were getting upset about the short. I was aware that the short was playing before Coco because there was trailers, and there was a big card board Coco movie poster at the theater I go to that had "Olaf's frozen adventure" at the bottom of it saying it was playing first. I also let my niece and nephews know that it was playing before Coco. I also bought the soundtrack before I seen the movie. lol I feel like I'm alone in my opinion but that's okay. I'm sorry not everyone has enjoyed it like my family did.
Jamesina Hillaire you aren't alone! 😉😊😁😁
You're not alone! My friends and I were actually worried that we weren't going to be able to see it before the short was pulled but we did ^_^
Imagine sitting there and already not really liking Frozen and A 22min long short comes on.
when I went to see coco on opening night (in the united states) we reserved 3D tickets about a week before. when we got to the theatre, they said the 3D wasn’t working, so i had to see coco in 2D. the theatre gave us a few free 3D tickets for any movie and they didn’t expire. when the movie began i knew there would be a short before the movie started. about halfway through the short i wasn’t sure i was in the right theatre or not, but i stuck with it and the story line just dragged on and on. the movie was supposed to start at 10:20pm and we got home at 1:45am. i loved the movie despite all of the negatives! i ended up using the free tickets to see coco again in 3D. before we went into the theatre, the ticket checkers would tell everyone that there was a 25-ish minute long short before the movie. during the previews the 3D wasn’t working again, but they fixed it right before the frozen short began. I 100000% recommend seeing Coco in 3D!!!!!!! it was completely worth the struggle
it also had to do with cultural representation. pixar had finally made a beautiful film about hispanic culture with a (mostly) hispanic cast to top it off. years of research and detail went into this film to make it authentic to the culture, but disney didn't care about that. by putting in olaf's frozen adventure, it shows that they just wanted money, and figured putting an excruciatingly long short with an all white cast would bring people in. People were considering this cultural appropriation because they were advertising the short more than the movie. (In the US and Mexico at least). When they premiered it in Mexico, people found it offensive. Their culture was finally being represented, but all they could think about were the awful songs that came beforehand. Disney just couldn't let there be a cultural movie without something to reminding them of well... white people. It sounds like a stretch, but that was essentially what its saying. I know for sure that was one of the main reasons it stopped playing in Mexico.
Sorry for that being really long, I hope it made sense. If anyone gets this far in the comments lmk. I'd love to have a discussion about this topic.
I haven't seen Coco or Olaf's Frozen adventure, but I agree! I was never really interested in the white culture I was born into and was much more interested in foreign cultures and holidays, like Dia de Los Muertos (I think I spelled that right). I enjoy learning about Spanish culture and if I had to sit through Olaf's Frozen Adventure before seeing something about Latino people and a Mexican holiday I would be pretty mad even if I would've watched it with no problem on TV. (Which was how Olaf's Frozen Adventure was supposed to air anyway-as a TV special!)
amethyst_ cat it's not about the interest in white culture, it's more about the fact that it was so long and there was only white people in it. and like i mentioned before, the way they advertised it. I completely agree though. If it did premiere on TV, I would've definitely watched it, but having it in front of coco was just a distraction. And it's not even memorable! If you do see it, let me know what you think.
TBH, I'm not convinced it's about race. They didn't do the same thing to Moana, and Moana has an all non-white set of characters too. In fact, Imma guess they won't even do that before Black Panther (a Disney owned movie). There's little to no evidence to suggest that your theory is actually correct, and that you're not just being bitter and angry over something that really doesn't matter that much. It's not like they white washed the actual cast of the film. Why are you so angry about the race of pre-established, unrelated characters who happened to be in a short that took place before that movie? They always have a short, so what short SHOULD they have done that wouldn't have pissed you off?
And fyi, of COURSE all of Frozen's characters are white. It's meant to be set in the Finland/Norway region, which is one of the whitest areas in the entire world. It would be ridiculously historically inaccurate to have black characters there, especially in a time period before mass travel existed. If it's wrong to white wash characters who historically should've been black, why is it ok to paint characters black who historically, definitely should not have been black?
It's about FROZEN, not the race of the cast. Not sure if you noticed, but Frozen was the most wildly successful film they have EVER done; and they've been coasting off the popularity ever since. That's all it is, bro. They still think people are obsessed enough with Frozen to be ok with watching a twenty minute long Frozen related short before a different movie. They were wrong, because people are kinda over Frozen at this point. Anything else is just people looking too deeply into it because they want a reason to be pissed off.
LordofFullmetal I completely understand your points. I can't take this opinion personally because I am not myself latinx. However, I am one of the few Disney fans who doesn't look for a reason to complain but rather a reason to debate. I was sharing this opinion as I've seen a lot of people express their thoughts and I thought it would be a good conversation to have. I agree, I do not think it would be appropriate to have a black person in frozen. I also don't think they should've put this in front of coco. Obviously this isn't completely about race, and I am in no way accusing Disney of something of that realm, (and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was). There was a quote by someone they interviewed and it went something like "for years we've been swallowed by your culture, for once it would be nice for you to be swallowed by ours." I thought that was an interesting thing to say, and (franchises aside) putting frozen in front of coco kind of felt off after hearing that.
If Disney was going to make a short in front of Coco, they could’ve at least made it about a Hispanic kid or something, maybe celebrating Dia de Los Muertos, or something like that, to keep it in the same culture/theme as the movie we paid to watch. But that’s just my opinion
How ironic that the summer loving snowman isn't in any shorts.
I'll just let myself out the door...
I appreciate this comment
Honestly, I think it is worth it to sit through Olaf’s Frozen Adventure because afterwards we are getting a very rewarding movie.
Am I only one who really liked this short movie? It had feelings, good songs, Elsa's new amazing dress, plot points from the past, deeper meaning to Olaf, not too much Olaf, great ice power thingys, great animation, representation of northern culture, etc.
I am going to watch coco today or this weekend and I just looked on the website of the cinemas in Vienna (where I live) and it actually says :COCO plus Kurzfilm „DIE EISKÖNIGIN:OLAF TAUT AUF“! Thats German for Coco plus short movie "Olafs Frozen Adventure" (by the way the german title actually means The frozen queen/ice queen: Olaf is melting/ Olaf is thawing) . And they wrote it into the content. Saying: Accompany Olaf in a winter wonderland for 20 minutes and search for the greatest holiday traditions before you watch Disney Pixars Coco.
I am glad they wrote it on the home page, because I really want to see the short and I would have been disappointed if they didn't play it.
I truly loved it, because my family really doesn't have a Christmas tradition, it's about us being together. I was totally bawling 😂😭 It was just so dear to *me*.
I do agree it was pretty long.
(It reminded me of a Barbie movie cuz of all the songs)
I did some research, and apparently Olaf's Frozen Adventure was originally supposed to air on ABC as a holiday special, but that got cancelled, so Disney decided to cram it in front of Coco. They actually made another short called Smash and Grab that was originally supposed to be Coco's short. I don't know what they'll do with it now; they'll probably either release it for Coco when it his DVD, or save it for their next movie, which I believe is Incredibles 2.
Stephen T I saw it airing on ABC a week ago or two, but that was after they removed it from theaters. When I saw Coco on the day it came out, I liked the Frozen short, but Coco definitely was better off without it. Disney just couldn't help but be too generous since Pixar didn't have a short of their own ready in time for Coco.
If they needed a short, why not put a disney or pixar short of the past in front of Coco. One that is 5 to 10 minutes. Or not show one at all.
Why did the Seamus cross the road?
To leave the cinema because that short about that Snowman was way too long
1:57 you’re so right I mean when we went to see coco when the featurrette ended my sister asked me “the movie finished quickly”
i thought that by the time coco premiered around the world, they would have already removed the short, or at least moved it to the end (so that those that wanted to see could still do it) coco came out in mexico almost a month before it came out everywhere else, and the olaf short was a removed here after 1 week and a half of screening, so don't get your hopes up about them removing it at all
so like yes i agree the frozen short was like a cram session where is wouldn't end and there was just song after song after song, but the literal only reason my family went to coco with me is because of the frozen short, they were hung up on the whole book of life is coco thing so they didn't want to see a "repeat" of the same movie or whatever, thankfully after they agreed with me that coco was great and the frozen short was like staring at a never ending musical for 20 minutes.
As a short film, Olaf’s Frozen Adventure was decent and would be great if it was shown as a TV Special. However, putting it in theaters, especially before Coco, made the short film extremely annoying.
I remember sitting in the theatre and 15 minutes in to the short I turned to my mom and said “You sure this is the right theatre? I thought we were here to see coco”. I also remember everyone in the theatre had a very confused look on their faces.
5:50 For my theater, the timers for the lights were tricked and turned on 5 minutes BEFORE THE CREDITS ROLLED. SO we spent the last 5 minutes watching the end of COCO with a glare on the screen. NO WONDER THEATERS WANT IT OUT ITS MESSING UP THEIR TIMING (for the automatic house lights that automatically come on a few minutes in the credits but THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE THEY CAME ON BEFORE THE FILM ENDED!)
2:15 Seamus , This is not the only one , Hawaiian vacation from the toy story toons played before cars 2
Theories: What if Frozen never exists?
About one-sixth of the market would disappear into thin air and Disney would have to hype another movie to saturate the market with and shove down our throats
A movie called "Burnt" would exist.
Seamus: A lot of children DO NOT have the attention span to sit through a 2 HOUR MOVIE *lists relevant evidence*
Incredibles 2: dᵢₛᵣₑgₐᵣd
I completely agree that the Frozen short didn't help Coco at all. Once I heard it was there, I literally waited until it was gone to go see it. I think I saw the movie two days after Disney took it off. I don't want to waste my time in seeing something I know I'm not going to like. I hope Coco gets more success now that Olaf is gone, but either way, it probably still did some damage.
I watched Coco today for a school trip and I agree with what you said about the short.
Bunny Lover lucky my school trip made us go too a cardboard factory
Red 7 standing by wow
Apparently the carlin brothers liked it
I agree with you Seamus
when i saw coco i went with my dad and little sister. after olaf’s frozen adventure, my dad said “welp that’s the movie” and my four year old sister was very confused.
EVERYTHING! EVERYTHING went wrong with this short. We had it AND other movie previews in ours. It took 45 minutes to get the actual movie. We could've had a full meal at a nearby restaurant and shown up late and still been there before Coco started.
It wasn't mentioned here, but another big reason the short got a lot of grief here in America was because this movie was part of a diversity campaign for Latinx in a place where (despite having a large Latinx population) we weren't really seen on screen like this. For a lot of people (including myself) it felt disheartening that with a film that was supposed to showcase my racial and ethnic diversity, they had a 22 minute short beforehand without any minority characters. I remember sitting in the theater surrounded by all these other Latinx families there for the same reason I was--to see my culture and my people represented for these kids; a huge move forward in a country where Latinx-Americans such as myself are viewed as second-class citizens--and being frustrated that we couldn't even have this one film for us. They still had to slap on an overtly long short, featuring their highest profiting (white) character cast. It almost felt like they were worried a story with a diverse main cast set in a less-Westernized culture would flop without Frozen there to save it. This kid next to me was so sad, like legitimately sad, and asked (in Spanish) where Coco was. It was the weirdest thing to have a short like that which was supposed to be funny, and to have so few of the children there laugh at the jokes. Kids usually laugh at everything that's even remotely funny, but these kids didn't. Disney let them down. I'm glad those who see it now can truly enjoy Coco without the short beforehand now, even if the decision was made for purely economic reasons. It deserves to stand on its own.
This short wasn't even meant to go with this movie though. It was a random tv featurette that they chucked in front of a different movie. I don't understand why people are upset about a totally unrelated short which is set in a totally different area with pre-established characters not having minority characters - and believe me, I KNOW what it feels like to be a minority. I'm a bisexual woman. You think you're marginalised? Most people don't even believe bisexuality EXISTS.
They didn't do this with Moana, which also features a completely non-white cast. The simple truth is that there's NO evidence any concerns about race are legitimate in this particular situation. Disney has SHOWN recently that they have zero problem banking on diverse films being successful. This is far from their first diverse film at this point, and they've never done this before - so any concerns you have come out sounding like you think your group is for some reason more marginalised than any other. It's probably not, let's be real. There's simply no evidence that this was a racially motivated action. You're taking a coincidence and making it a bigger deal than it is. Would you be this upset if they'd done a Moana short that was twenty two minutes long? I mean, it's still a different race to your own. Or are you literally just reacting this way because it's considered ok in modern society to trash white people without an actual reason?
It is FAR more likely that this simply has to do with the fact that Frozen is the number one most successful movie Disney has EVER done, than it is that it's a racial thing. Trust me, they're throwing Frozen into EVERYTHING. Not just this one movie.
@@LordofFullmetal Oh my god, this is the most bigoted ignorant short-sighted naive moronic comment! You should be ashamed of yourself. I can't even begin to explain all the things wrong with your way of thinking here, but know that your perspective is absolutely disgusting.
Dude, they're Norwegian. They're supposed to be white. Of course Disney will use these charachters as much as possible, they made the company millions of dollars. How would it sound if a white person said "I went to see a movie with an all white cast, but the short had latino people! This ruined my experience of the movie!" No offense, but I think you're seeing racism where there isn't any.
Ok but “When We’re Together” is a bop
I am so happy that the short is gone. I was scared that the short would carry Coco and not the actual movie but clearly most people are mad about Olaf's Frozen Adventure and this could mean that it could be possible to get more originals, which are usually the best Pixar movies.
I was at the movie theater, and I saw it say “Olaf’s frozen adventure” right in front of the poster. And I really just stared at it in complete disbelief.
I studied media and there was a rule that a short shouldnt be more then 10min-11min long. Seamus did a good job explaining excactly why.
They never mentions shorts on tickets for movies when I saw Big Hero 6 and Finding Dory.
I was so confused when the short was so long. It just never seemed to end...
But the movie was incredible and totally drove that out of my mind. It's by far my favourite pixar movie
Me 5 seconds into the video~ OOH A RANT
That “short” made my dad fall ASLEEP!! I HATED it!! And what was HILARIOUS was the SECOND that Frozen “short” came on there was a loud annoyed “AAAAAAAAAAAH”!!
I went to go see it with my Spanish club from school, and I must say, I got INSANELY confused. I was wondering if our entire club (of 28 people!) was in the wrong place, and I know Pixar shorts exist before every movie. When we walked in and it was starting, I figured it was a short. I just kept getting more confused until finally I decided that we were in the right theater (we took up 2 whole rows and no one tried to take our seats) and this was just one really long short. But it just kept dragging on and on. And I don’t even like frozen! AT ALL! No offense if you do, but I came to see Coco, a movie about Día de los muertos. Not frozen 2. So it was definitely a good idea to remove it from theaters, but I wish they had another short to replace it since I really like them.
They DID have another short though. The original short, which was replaced BY this damn Frozen one. I have no idea why they didn't put that back in.
I personally loved this short. xD But yeah, I get the problem. I was in theatres for Coco and I was happy, because I love Frozen, but most kids seemed to be annoyed and kept asking when Coco was finally gonna start.
I just saw it a last weekend.
I'm grateful for it though!
Just because we got the wrong time for the showing and were about 20 minutes late. So I'm glad that I didn't miss the start!
Dear Seamus, pls keep up with the hype. Do a star wars theory video man. Loved the last one
The way this Olaf short is 22mins long and another frozen short “frozen fever” is only like 7 mins
all of this stuff would make _watching_ the short bad but what I wanna know (as someone who never saw it) is the actual short good and enjoyable? like if it wasnt played before coco and was an actual thing people watched willingly would it be good?
My theater in northern Michigan in Mackinaw City posted about Olaf's Adventure on their website, on their ticket, and mentioned that Olaf's Adventure would be limited time thing. Nobody in the theater complained. We just enjoyed it and then went into Coco.
Don’t worry you have Netflix (Coco is on Netflix)
I think my local cinema advertized the Frozen short more than Coco itself lol. I went there with my 6 yr old cousin (a huge Frozen fan) and that short was the main reason why he wanted to go to the cinema...but he was excited for Coco as well! (and ended up loving Coco just as much as I did)
I didn't hate the "featurette" but I would have preferred an original short movie like in previous pixar movies :) nice video! and excuse my english if there are any mistakes ^^
My mom actually works for Disney, has for about a decade now, so we go to a lot of screenings down at the studio lot in Glendale. When we went, since this was a theater filled with Disney employees, everyone knew about the short. But even then, people kept muttering, "Is the movie starting soon," or, "God this is long." And when the short wrapped up everyone just kind of looked at each other with confusion and disbelief.
Maybe you should tell your mom to tell Iger that the whole world is sick and tired of Frozen and want something new, original, and even better than Frozen! Also, have Frozen 2 cancelled and never be brought back to production ever again!
Didn’t work. Frozen II is only a couple of years old.
in mexico, so many people complained about the short, theatres stopped showing it. they were also confused as to why there was a christmas short when it was 2 months away. (the movie was released in mexico before it was released in the united states)
I’m so happy I was late and missed that
I was also on a time constraint when I went to see Coco (granted for me it was to get to work on time and my job was 2-3 minutes down the road from the cinema) I admitngly watch a lot of TV, and no trailer I saw for Coco mentioned Olaf's Frozen Adventure. The only thing I saw mention the "short" was a standee for Coco in the theatre on the day I went to see it. Though I have to admit, fitting four original songs into that short of a time frame is impressive.
*The fact that it exists*
I love to watch Seamus rant. For some reason it just makes me smile.
Maybe because he just gets so into his subject matter?
I agree that the “short” was boring and sooo long. I was really doing by it. But I loved Coco!!!
I live in Swizzerland where the Pixar movies come out 3 Months later (because of dubbing in German), they actually wrote under the movie Coco that there will be a short movie with the frozen characters...
Yo. I went to see Coco and I was so confused to see Olaf in the beginning of a movie about a Mexican holiday.
I mean.. he does like summer
Is it weird that I love watching Seamus complain and explain thoroughly why things are problematic? These are my fave videos of Seamus':
1. "Why does EVERYONE think.....?" playlist
2. The Pixar shorts CREATE PROBLEMS!!!!!!
3. What went wrong with Olaf's Frozen Adventure
Could you make a theory about if WiFi would work in The room requirements if a muggleborn would requiere it?
... That is an INTERESTING question.
I would argue no, because technology doesn't work in Hogwarts. The room of requirement is still WITHIN Hogwarts.
o-o Interesting
I really agree with you. The "short" wasn't so horrible in my opinion, but it definitely wasn't great. I knew about the "short" before going and was already laughing my way to the movie theatre like, "HA! A 20 minute SHORT!"
What's sad is that I liked Frozen. The characters were great, the story was good- it's a good movie.
But the "short?" It made some of the characters feel really off. Olaf was the major one- they did a fantastic job of keeping him funny and cute in Frozen. A character like him is very hard to pull off as lovable, but Disney did it. But in the "short?" He managed to start annoying even me, someone who finds it very difficult to be annoyed by 'cutesy' stuff. Olaf just seemed...really ditzy. Sure, he's supposed to be played that way for comedic effect, which also happened in the original movie. However, in the "short", his mentality just came off as dumb.
Some of the other characters were like this, too. Mostly, I think it was Kristoff and Sven- their dynamic didn't feel right and their comedic effect was jacked wayyy up.
To sum up this overlong analyzation, I didn't care too much for the "short." I absolutely LOVED Coco! :D
(Don't mind the edits; I'm a grammar freak xD)
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My mom got scared because Frozen thought we walked into the wrong movie 😂😂😂
OH NO IM 3 MINUTES LATE....SEAMUS DONT KILL MEE
ITS THAT FACT THAT IT WAS 22 MINUTES LONG AND BASED OFF OF A CHARACTER FROM AN ALREADY EXISTING SERIES WHICH COULD MAKE PEOPLE THINK THEY WENT TO THE WRONG THEATER
Personally, I didn’t like Frozen. Not at all. I love Elsa, don’t get me wrong but her character developed and then went right back down to zero. She was scared, then she sang her dog and seemed all awesome and said she wouldn’t be afraid anymore, and then she went right back to being a frightened little sheep. Her powers weren’t explained well enough for me and- - I digress. I really want to see Coco but I don’t want to sit through a Frozen TV episode (basically) and risk losing my good seat. I live in Chicago, it’s possible to lose a foot in these theaters because there are so many people
You're in luck!! As of December 8th (I think) they've removed the short from all US theatres.
Just one point though - why does Elsa's magic need to be EXPLAINED? It's magic. By definition, explaining it fucks it up. You're not meant to explain magic, or it's not magic anymore. Did you also get mad that the fairy godmother isn't explained in Cinderella? That the witch isn't explained in Brave? That Mother Gothel and her powers aren't explained properly in Tangled? NO magic in Disney is ever properly explained, because that would make it not feel like magic anymore.
When the short film was playing before Coco when I was watching it two teenagers left the cinema. They thought they where in the wrong movie cause it was so long. Shocking, I know...
What's going on inside Olaf's head? I think Joy would definitely be his lead emotion, so you can start with that. You've analysed animals, toys, monsters, superheroes and robots, so why not do a snowman?
In Brazil, instead of showing it before Coco in the cinema, they showed it before the release of Coco.
It was shown in the TV on Chrismas day.(In Brazil Coco was released only on January 4th)
Loll I'm gonna go see Coco again today and me and my sister are planning on going in at least 10 minuites into the Frozen short so we don't gotta see the whole thing. XD
I really wondered, about why it was a holiday special instead of a video about why olaf was made.
It's a Pixar short...
A 22 minute long "short" is NOT a short more of an episode of a cash grab show.
I loved the short! I thought it was very cinematic and had great music. I loved Coco and went to see it again yesterday because they were supposed to still be playing the short but it didn't play and I was so upset! Coco was absolutely amazing though!
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My theater had a sign that said "Short film plays before Coco" so I knew.
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I have seen every Pixar film in theatres, (barely, I'm 22 and saw Toy Story when I was a baby, but still, every one in theatres) and am always super excited for my Pixar short before the film. My boyfriend isn't big on seeing films in theatres, and had only seen a couple Pixar films, but I had convinced him to see Coco with me because I really wanted to see it, and I wanted him to come with me.
But Olaf came on the screen when my Pixar short came on the screen. He had no idea what was going on, and didn't even know the characters, as he hasn't seen Frozen. (And thought I've explained it to him, he doesn't think it sounds interesting.) I however, was fuming because I could only remember being 19 and living with my 9 year old cousin back when Frozen came out, and being super into it so we could connect, but completely hating it now.
And the fact that this short felt like it would never end.
We did end up liking Coco (and I can say it's the 4th Pixar film I have cried in, the others being Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3), but we weren't thrilled about the short, and were pleased to later hear it was being pulled from theatres.
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If you notice the resolution on the film. It's playing on a widescreen, which is meant for television. And you know where this short was going to originally play, ON TV
Always hated Frozen. Always will
It was 22 minutes long because that’s the standard running time for a half hour tv show in the U.S. And it was pulled after eleven days because Disney, who owns ABC, ran it in the States as a holiday special on tv. Sorry if someone else has already said this.
Omg, finally! I was soooo confused when I was at the cinema and they started showing this Frozen thingie. And it JUST. WOULDN'T. END. I legitimately thought that they had put in the wrong movie and was about to go and tell one of the employees, when FINALLY, this HORRIBLE experience ended....
I bought a ticket for Olaf's Frozen Adventure, and I knew Coco was playing next, but Frozen never played and I was disappointed