Heyy Clarence, i was your patreon member since last month but for some certain reason the payment failed. It may be because i live in India and here are some rules of RBI which won't let me pay you. I still want to continue my subscription but the payment is the issue here. If you can add a payment method in rupees it would be helpful.
I was looking at your weightlifting programs and there wasn't anything to teach the basics of weightlifting, do you have anything or anyone to help with learning the clean and jerk and the snatch
what you said in this video is extremely true. not only does this apply to lifting, but pretty much everything else in life. being willing to slow down, take time as it is, and be intricate rather than trying to push everything will benefit you in the long run. great video
Exactly. Someone learning to code in 10 hours simply won't have the same depth of understanding that someone doing it for 6 months would. Even if they were looking at similar materials. You just can't see how all things fit together going too quickly, and eventually you'll get to a problem where your missing base of knowledge bites you in the ass.
@@sucraloss Learning "fast" in weight lifting would be putting together more hours say in 12 weeks of highly motivated sessions vs 8 months of 60% engagement sessions. Say in that 12 weeks you were able to get at it 4 hours per day with split up sessions 5 days per week of highly productive and motivated sessions ( 240 hours at 90% engagement and focus ) versus 8 months of 4 hours per week ( 128 hours at 60% engagement and focus ) . So in that 8 months you are not as engaged and motivated and not learning the material as quickly versus the 12 weeks, you are engaged and learning and retaining information much more quickly and powerfully.
As a newbie programmer & powerlifter this is what I needed the most.. I wasted a tons of time trying to achieve big in small time, instead slow but steady approach is what's needed
I was stuck at 140kgs on the deadlift for a year while aggressively pursuing progressive overload, when I got a coach who gave me a program that seemed "too slow" for me i put 20kgs on my deadlift in about two months.
I weightlift as an accessory to training. I’ve been competing as a track and field thrower at a high level for some time, and it’s amazing how much crossover there is in training and ideologies. I see very similar tendencies in younger throwers just trying to throw as hard as they can even in training. Slow training throws focusing on the multiple highly technical cues has really progressed my development and has given me a greater appreciation for the finer details and made throwing further a lot easier.
As a programmer my best tip for you when learning from a book is to experiment with the code examples as much as you can. If something doesn't click though, feel free to mark it and come back to it later. But do not ever rush through, thinking that you'll "get it" when you're done with the book
I’m an aspiring programmer, and after learning python and c#, I’m realizing that I need to know html, css, and JavaScript in order to be full stack. I’ve been avoiding learning the front stack thinking that it wasn’t important, but now that I’ve gone back to learn the front stack, I’m realizing that I shouldn’t be too impatient in trying to get job. I should take my time and truly learn the material before moving on.
This is why so many ppl say to "enjoy the process." It doesn't just mean to have fun. It means to not focus on the outcome and enjoy the hardships of learning a new skill because it takes YEARS to master something as technical as weightlifting. It's the same exact thing with trying to learn golf
I remembered watching your video with Omar and I grinded the fuck out of those drills for 4 to 5 months. Then I got coached by Gabriel and all he told me was large volumes of c&j and snatch, variants, 4 months and im improving (75,95 @79bw). Weightlifting truly tests one's patience and mindset.
@@dennisrobinson8008 snatch 60-> 75, C&J 90->95. Honestly my jerk was pretty bad, I had to start all over, but my clean speed and catch has improved a lot. I dont miss cleans ever.
make the reps clean, make em' beautiful, make em' as technically proficient as possible. Rings true for anything from a basic push up to some really advanced movement
Absolutely agree. I cared way too much about how much I deadlifted/benched/squat after a certain timeframe. I lied to myself by saying "I didn't actually work out for 2 years, I could have hit that in a year if I did more". When I stopped caring about the exact goal and started focussing on the process, enjoying it as much as possible for the long term, a huge weight dropped off of my chest. I could actually give it my all and feel good about my achievements. I'm ironically getting better bodybuilding results and general strength results as well. I'm not boucing the weights on the bench press, I'm not cutting the depth of my squats and I'm not rounding my back on my deadlifts. It took a few months to be able to hit the same numbers with good texhnique again, but every PR feels so much more rewarding. I don't have to worry about whether or not it "counted", of course it did if I did it, I simply would have stopped if I couldn't do it well!
The analogy with learning an instrument is spot on. When I got into guitar I was extremely motivated, and I was surprised at how fast I could learn some of my favorite songs. But I was rushing through the practise, neglecting some very important fundamentals in the process. Though I was playing the correct notes of some really hard songs, my sound was terrible and my rythm inaccurate. And I did hit a wall where some harder stuff seemed forever out of reach because I just didn't know how to make it work. After I realised how aweful I actually sounded it took a long time of going back to the basics before I could finally go back up to speed and finally get past my plateau. Sadly plenty of musicians never take that time and they either quit or get stuck on the same issues their whole career.
Yes, I've learned this over the years, the proper process of learning/mastering any skill feels 'slow'. Just enjoy the process. Be discliplined, show up to training/class, try to enjoy the journey. Look back on your progress after 1, 2, 10 years and you'll be amazed at how far you've come.
Definitely agree with this and went through this when I started powerlifting. It was my goal to deadlift 200 kilos and squat 160 kilos, and I managed to reach it after like 9 months of training (I had some background before but just lifted for fun before focusing powerlifting). However, because of my shotty technique and because I overtrained and didn't have a proper routine, I tweaked my back squatting and had to stop training anything involving my back at all. It really sucked having to deadlift with just the bar and doing good mornings with a pvc pipe, but I'm really glad I had that reality check. After around 6 months of recovery and focusing on my technique, I managed to reach my old numbers again, but with much better technique and a better baseline to grow. Still got a lot to learn, but building that foundation is really important for longevity and really enjoying yourself.
Hey man this is kinda me currently. Started lifting 8 months ago and have progressed my strength really fast on all the big lifts, but the main flaw I have is I get a bit of posterior tilt out of home when I squat deep. My glutes and lower back take over the movement rather then my quads. My deadlift form is pretty good but I'm still tweaking it up aswell. I just was like a lot of people I guess, obsessed with trying to get PR's all the time but after watching Clarence's videos I want my lifts to look more aesthetic like Clarence's. I guess the only way is to stop chasing PR'S and rather chase perfecting my technique.
@@KGlifts Yeah definitely. It's all about thinking more long term rather than the short term gratification of getting that pr. If you're training strength, I would recommend getting on a proper powerlifting/powerbuilding routine. Also, asking some more experienced people for help can do wonders. Just by tweaking my starting position slightly, my deadlift went up 20 pounds and felt a lot better. Stay consistent!
This is exactly the issue i had with my guitar playing, been going 10 years but not taking the time to learn to read music and understand it better has left me in a place to be the perfect backup guitarist🤣
This video hits home. I have applied the same analogy to progress overload...I don't do overload now....my body tells me to up the weight. And also ( philosophical stance), I am not all about gym now....I focus on other parts of my life as well and not to mention things are better now. And the progress was better too when I just decided to take things at their pace and just do my part
I study psychology and our prof for general mermory showed us research that basically shows that if you took a long time to learn and a long and steady interval to repeat the stuff you've learnt you will remember it for a longer period of time. if you learn something very fast and repeat it very infrequently you won't be able to remember it very clearly for very long, so I very much agree with the logic presented in this video!
I felt this so much I spent 2 months and got to a 80kg power clean just to try a full clean and do miserably 6 months later I'm now clean and jerking 80kg as a PR with pretty good form
Personally, I usually approach a new pastime skill as lifelong journey to improve. Maybe I'll have breaks, but I never quit just because I reach or don't reach a result in specific time frame. If you get there faster than expected, there's no reason to stop there. If you never get there, you can still always keep improving and gaining new territory. And if you take a break and return, there's nothing wrong with that. Specifically I've learned with everything that getting a result is not the key to satisfaction, it is striving for perfection in technique. It makes every achievement so much better the more finesse you manage to have in it. For the longest time I wanted to play specific things on guitar, now I want everything I play to feel great. It improved a lot of things, caused realisation that it's about being musical, not technical. And to Clarence's point, I wasted 10-15 years trying to rush things in the first 5-10 years. After 15 years I spent 5-10 years relearnig the basics. It was annoying but satisfying because learning new things and surpassing the previous progress point was easier and faster every time. Practicing became more tedious going very slow for a long time and only slowly ramping up speed, but it produced faster results and more finesse and control. When I started lifting, I had already reached the lesson of perfecting technique so the numbers progressing in certain way didn't bring as much satisfaction as doing it really nicely. The numbers didn't grow fast at all, they would be embarrassing to say the least if compared to others and how much time was spent. But I kept improving myself. With judo I also wanted to learn more new things as I gained the first marks of progress. Then I realised I couldn't do any of it well. Spent months of summer doing 1-2 basic throw shapes without partner, step by step only progressing when I felt I could do the previous step comfortably and consistently, eventually combining all the steps to fluid motion, twice a week for 2 hours. The end of the summer was glorious when I could always reach the positions consistently, comfortably, in control and with speed. All parts happening the right way, not needing to fix something different every rep. The body feels good when you can do things consistently with speed, even power. It's the same as with weightlifting, you just get satisfaction from doing it correctly and fast, when it feels effortless and light. When I started learning magic tricks and cardistry, it shows especially, because it's an art whose purpose is solely to look good. It's not acceptable to perform a card trick and have every move shine through and reveal all the sleight of hand, it has to look perfect so the audience can get the satisfaction of not knowing how it happened, and the magical feeling of witnessing the impossible.
Whenever I go to the gym,people mock me for being extremely slow with my weightlifting progress. But I always remember this video and Clarence himself and he has been training for almost two decades. I think about it like this. Your current 80% won’t be your future 80%
i really like thinking long term and the idea of improving incrementally over time but there was really some death/time paranoia that made me feel like i had to work harder and faster than i should have. accepting that its better to be consistent and patient helped me with that paranoia and i feel a lot more content in general
I noticed this on many of things: When playing instruments, it's more effective when you spend your time playing slow as it will help you play faster. "if you can play it slow, you can play it fast". As an engineering student, I prefer learning advanced mathematics from its very proofs and derivations, intuitively and rigorously instead of learning advanced formulas right away everytime. And I almost always tend to be the best in a group. In competitive video games, chess, cycling I noticed it too.
Its why many teachers set up their curriculum in whats called a "scaffolding education" Spending time building a foundation and base and only then building from those fundamentals. Its a proven method of learning that works. All of these streamlined learning programs basically eliminate the most important part of an education imo. Im not a teacher but I have family who are and I find how they set up lesson plans pretty fascinating. A teacher really has more effect on a students success than I realized before this, they can put effort into crafting their own lessons or just meet the states requirements, both are technically doing their job but 1 is going to produce much better students.
This was legit inspirational, when a hydraulic press tells you slow progression is good, it’s good, wasted so much time and energy trying to focus on numbers instead of learning
"Why not imagine how good you'll be if you stick with a certain thing for 10 years?" Because there's no guarantee you'll enjoy the thing for that long.
true af !!! i have been and still training a client of mine in handstand ! i always told her to go slow after 2 years of training kick ups and technique stuff she is about to hit her handstand AND her form is beautiful better than all people after like 6 months of training
This goes probably everywhere. In algorithmic trading profits are important but not as important as a smooth and consistent equity curve. Linearity is key to almost anything in life
Agreed dude. You guys have so much time - think about 10 years from now, not just a few months. No reason to cram and burn out. Good habits are more important if you want to sustain progress and skills for life.
the challenges Clarence describes for going from 80 kg to 100kg snatch quickly, are basically the challenges I experienced when going from 60kg to 80kg. 😭 But now that I have my technique down, I feel like chipping away at 80 kg to 100 kg is going much smoothly! perfect video describing the challenges of progression in the snatch.
Learning "fast" in weight lifting would be putting together more hours say in 16 weeks of highly motivated sessions vs 8 months of 60% engagement sessions. Say in that 16 weeks you were able to get at it 4 hours per day with split up sessions 5 days per week of highly productive and motivated sessions ( 300 hours at 90% engagement and focus ) versus 8 months of 4 hours per week ( 128 hours at 60% engagement and focus ) . So in that 8 months you are not as engaged and motivated and not learning the material as quickly versus the 12 weeks, you are engaged and learning and retaining information much more quickly and powerfully. The "time" and "quality of work" principle can be used at learning and advancing in any skill. Another example was there is a man who put together a system to speed learn spanish, yet at a high level of proficiency. It was done by using 8-10 hours a day for 60 days 6 days a week, completely immersed in the problem ( 480-600 hours on the problem at 90% engagement ). He was a perfectly fluid speaker at the end even more so than people who took 4 years of college study in 3-4 hour credit hours. ( 3-4 hours of class per week and 3-8 hours of study per week ( 560 hours at 60% engagement ). He simply got in more time on the problem with a higher level of engagement and focus.
I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that Clarence is a thoughtful smart individual (given he's reached the highest level of expression in a sport, which requires great physical grit and focus but obviously also intelligence) - but it is.
Yup. I have a saying. Make it easy and repeatable, newbie gains messes up our reward vs effort system. We think it's always supposed to be easy and come quickly, once that slows down a lot of people don't know how to think about training. I used to want to rush 20lb PR'S, now I love 2.5-5lb accomplishments and progressing quality and consistency over quantity and bigger numbers right now.
can confirm this when I self-taught myself powerlifting. using a template of sheiko (free online) and then staying true to the principle: train the form. I was able to add 80kg total in just 7 months while staying at the same weight, and it's 130kg added to my total in under 1 and a half years.
I've been impatient lately as I work towards a three plate bench, I've been plagued by a problem with my left shoulder. I think I need to chill and work on my shoulder mobility and focus on my form and strength for as long as it takes
Thats why it is incredibly hard to become elite (or even advanced) at anything without a coach who holds you accountable on the fundamentals. You would have to be quite intelligent and patient and have a mature understanding of progress.
I have been doing weightlifting moves for a couple of years now. Obviously the lockdowns didn't help. Starting Clarence's beginner weightlifting programme. I am a 50 year old woman going through menopause. If any of you ladies are training out there in the same position, get onto HRT as it helps your sessions.
Any skill requires time Programming, Weightlifting,Music ..etc People are getting obsessed with the ideal Programmer , weightlifter,Musician.. They are afraid of failure which is very possible in the beginning and they start doing things that are self destructive in the long run The solution is to chill out your inner self and put logic first in everything you do ... Difficult things are so mentally exhaustive that can be more if you get obsessed with the idea to skip your logic and listen just your emotion ... The main problem is to manage keep up with your logic and emotion in a world that pushes you to rush doing things that are extremely difficult even if there a lot scammers that tell you the opposite...
For programming this is so true. You must enter the field slowly, learning how to think first, then you create stuff. Learning fundamentals takes time? Do you need 5 years to begin your career? No. Do you need more than 6 months? You bet.
That's why we always have to go back to technique training with light weight. Without a coach one may think or feel technique is great even when it isn't. You're wondering as you get stronger and stronger why suddenly one shoulder starts to hurt eg. That's the alert to check for technique and weakpoints, might be a job related issue, overuse, a weak stabilizer due to unsymmetrical technique, or tightness of some muscle. Not only in oly weightlifting, any compound exercise. Most people have unsymmetrical bodies, sooner or later will have to put in the work.
This is definitely a pervasive attitude in beginner lifting, and I see it leading to the idea that there is only one correct approach because it delivers the fastest results. Experimenting, making mistakes and departing from conventional wisdom is discouraged as it would slow down your results, even if it could lead to higher long-term sustainability and enjoyability. This also becomes an issue when you chase a measure of progress that doesn't totally correlate with the actual goal. For example, if your goal is to gain muscle then one of the most easily trackable signs of progress is lifting heavier weights, but it's also possible to achieve that via other factors like technique changes. You might get sidetracked into chasing a high number on a lift, but find that your muscles aren't as big as expected because part of it was from these other factors. Now the high weight imposes enough stress that it becomes more difficult to keep progressing, and you have to take a step back to relearn an approach more conducive to your actual goal.
It can go the other way too. Your technique can improve faster than your strength and that’s when injuries happen. When you’re able to get under more weight than your body is ready for
Is it a coincidence that when you say "a much better position to..." at 2:46 there just happens to apear a clip in which's background there is a position poster?
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Heyy Clarence, i was your patreon member since last month but for some certain reason the payment failed. It may be because i live in India and here are some rules of RBI which won't let me pay you. I still want to continue my subscription but the payment is the issue here. If you can add a payment method in rupees it would be helpful.
Any experience with [training] running? Specifically while fully/ almost fully training olympic weightlifting and also on a vegan diet?
I was looking at your weightlifting programs and there wasn't anything to teach the basics of weightlifting, do you have anything or anyone to help with learning the clean and jerk and the snatch
I've been making good progress with the powerlifting program 👍
“I must go now my people need me” (levitates onto a plyometric box)
-Clarence
what you said in this video is extremely true. not only does this apply to lifting, but pretty much everything else in life. being willing to slow down, take time as it is, and be intricate rather than trying to push everything will benefit you in the long run. great video
no it won't
Exactly. Someone learning to code in 10 hours simply won't have the same depth of understanding that someone doing it for 6 months would. Even if they were looking at similar materials.
You just can't see how all things fit together going too quickly, and eventually you'll get to a problem where your missing base of knowledge bites you in the ass.
“Extremely true” as opposed to just “true?”
@@sucraloss Learning "fast" in weight lifting would be putting together more hours say in 12 weeks of highly motivated sessions vs 8 months of 60% engagement sessions. Say in that 12 weeks you were able to get at it 4 hours per day with split up sessions 5 days per week of highly productive and motivated sessions ( 240 hours at 90% engagement and focus ) versus 8 months of 4 hours per week ( 128 hours at 60% engagement and focus ) . So in that 8 months you are not as engaged and motivated and not learning the material as quickly versus the 12 weeks, you are engaged and learning and retaining information much more quickly and powerfully.
@@wainach9518 Yes, it will.
Slow learning can help you focus better, understand more and stack knowledge for life.
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast
Same in motorsports
With that logic, Slow=Fast? Not true
@@michaelxthunder i get told this same Que by my coach all the time because I tend to rush my lifts and let me tell you it’s very true
@Bloot King It sure does, most commonly used with weapons training in the military.
@Bloot King its not a literal statement, doofus
I don't know what the video will be talking about, but just from the title I can predict it will be good
You can tell just by knowing it is a Clarence video.
I feel like it is going to talk about learning pace
As a newbie programmer & powerlifter this is what I needed the most.. I wasted a tons of time trying to achieve big in small time, instead slow but steady approach is what's needed
I was stuck at 140kgs on the deadlift for a year while aggressively pursuing progressive overload, when I got a coach who gave me a program that seemed "too slow" for me i put 20kgs on my deadlift in about two months.
I weightlift as an accessory to training. I’ve been competing as a track and field thrower at a high level for some time, and it’s amazing how much crossover there is in training and ideologies. I see very similar tendencies in younger throwers just trying to throw as hard as they can even in training. Slow training throws focusing on the multiple highly technical cues has really progressed my development and has given me a greater appreciation for the finer details and made throwing further a lot easier.
As a programmer my best tip for you when learning from a book is to experiment with the code examples as much as you can. If something doesn't click though, feel free to mark it and come back to it later. But do not ever rush through, thinking that you'll "get it" when you're done with the book
I’m an aspiring programmer, and after learning python and c#, I’m realizing that I need to know html, css, and JavaScript in order to be full stack. I’ve been avoiding learning the front stack thinking that it wasn’t important, but now that I’ve gone back to learn the front stack, I’m realizing that I shouldn’t be too impatient in trying to get job. I should take my time and truly learn the material before moving on.
@@joshuavarghese8225 Do you do any Olympic lifts or at least "power cleans"?
This is why so many ppl say to "enjoy the process." It doesn't just mean to have fun. It means to not focus on the outcome and enjoy the hardships of learning a new skill because it takes YEARS to master something as technical as weightlifting. It's the same exact thing with trying to learn golf
Please post more even just commentary, random gym vids. Love watching your content and hearing your takes bro please post more.
Love you Clarence, hope you're well ✌🏽
I remembered watching your video with Omar and I grinded the fuck out of those drills for 4 to 5 months. Then I got coached by Gabriel and all he told me was large volumes of c&j and snatch, variants, 4 months and im improving (75,95 @79bw). Weightlifting truly tests one's patience and mindset.
What was your starting point and the gain in the 4 months?
@@dennisrobinson8008 snatch 60-> 75, C&J 90->95.
Honestly my jerk was pretty bad, I had to start all over, but my clean speed and catch has improved a lot. I dont miss cleans ever.
@@jameslam6554 Hi. I appreciate the response. Good gains.
@@dennisrobinson8008 💪💪💪
make the reps clean, make em' beautiful, make em' as technically proficient as possible. Rings true for anything from a basic push up to some really advanced movement
Absolutely agree. I cared way too much about how much I deadlifted/benched/squat after a certain timeframe. I lied to myself by saying "I didn't actually work out for 2 years, I could have hit that in a year if I did more". When I stopped caring about the exact goal and started focussing on the process, enjoying it as much as possible for the long term, a huge weight dropped off of my chest. I could actually give it my all and feel good about my achievements. I'm ironically getting better bodybuilding results and general strength results as well. I'm not boucing the weights on the bench press, I'm not cutting the depth of my squats and I'm not rounding my back on my deadlifts. It took a few months to be able to hit the same numbers with good texhnique again, but every PR feels so much more rewarding. I don't have to worry about whether or not it "counted", of course it did if I did it, I simply would have stopped if I couldn't do it well!
The analogy with learning an instrument is spot on. When I got into guitar I was extremely motivated, and I was surprised at how fast I could learn some of my favorite songs. But I was rushing through the practise, neglecting some very important fundamentals in the process. Though I was playing the correct notes of some really hard songs, my sound was terrible and my rythm inaccurate. And I did hit a wall where some harder stuff seemed forever out of reach because I just didn't know how to make it work.
After I realised how aweful I actually sounded it took a long time of going back to the basics before I could finally go back up to speed and finally get past my plateau. Sadly plenty of musicians never take that time and they either quit or get stuck on the same issues their whole career.
Mate -- your years beyond your age in wisdom and intellect - cheers mate
Love this Clarence, so tired of the optimisation, min/max talk that lifehackers and the like bang on about
Yes, I've learned this over the years, the proper process of learning/mastering any skill feels 'slow'. Just enjoy the process. Be discliplined, show up to training/class, try to enjoy the journey. Look back on your progress after 1, 2, 10 years and you'll be amazed at how far you've come.
Definitely agree with this and went through this when I started powerlifting. It was my goal to deadlift 200 kilos and squat 160 kilos, and I managed to reach it after like 9 months of training (I had some background before but just lifted for fun before focusing powerlifting). However, because of my shotty technique and because I overtrained and didn't have a proper routine, I tweaked my back squatting and had to stop training anything involving my back at all. It really sucked having to deadlift with just the bar and doing good mornings with a pvc pipe, but I'm really glad I had that reality check. After around 6 months of recovery and focusing on my technique, I managed to reach my old numbers again, but with much better technique and a better baseline to grow. Still got a lot to learn, but building that foundation is really important for longevity and really enjoying yourself.
Hey man this is kinda me currently. Started lifting 8 months ago and have progressed my strength really fast on all the big lifts, but the main flaw I have is I get a bit of posterior tilt out of home when I squat deep. My glutes and lower back take over the movement rather then my quads. My deadlift form is pretty good but I'm still tweaking it up aswell. I just was like a lot of people I guess, obsessed with trying to get PR's all the time but after watching Clarence's videos I want my lifts to look more aesthetic like Clarence's. I guess the only way is to stop chasing PR'S and rather chase perfecting my technique.
@@KGlifts Yeah definitely. It's all about thinking more long term rather than the short term gratification of getting that pr. If you're training strength, I would recommend getting on a proper powerlifting/powerbuilding routine. Also, asking some more experienced people for help can do wonders. Just by tweaking my starting position slightly, my deadlift went up 20 pounds and felt a lot better. Stay consistent!
As a musician (drummer specifically) this all applies perfectly. It's something I'll be showing students who want to rush the basics.
Amen to that.
This is exactly the issue i had with my guitar playing, been going 10 years but not taking the time to learn to read music and understand it better has left me in a place to be the perfect backup guitarist🤣
This video hits home. I have applied the same analogy to progress overload...I don't do overload now....my body tells me to up the weight. And also ( philosophical stance), I am not all about gym now....I focus on other parts of my life as well and not to mention things are better now. And the progress was better too when I just decided to take things at their pace and just do my part
Wise words from a very strong man.
I study psychology and our prof for general mermory showed us research that basically shows that if you took a long time to learn and a long and steady interval to repeat the stuff you've learnt you will remember it for a longer period of time. if you learn something very fast and repeat it very infrequently you won't be able to remember it very clearly for very long, so I very much agree with the logic presented in this video!
I felt this so much I spent 2 months and got to a 80kg power clean just to try a full clean and do miserably 6 months later I'm now clean and jerking 80kg as a PR with pretty good form
Personally, I usually approach a new pastime skill as lifelong journey to improve. Maybe I'll have breaks, but I never quit just because I reach or don't reach a result in specific time frame. If you get there faster than expected, there's no reason to stop there. If you never get there, you can still always keep improving and gaining new territory. And if you take a break and return, there's nothing wrong with that. Specifically I've learned with everything that getting a result is not the key to satisfaction, it is striving for perfection in technique. It makes every achievement so much better the more finesse you manage to have in it.
For the longest time I wanted to play specific things on guitar, now I want everything I play to feel great. It improved a lot of things, caused realisation that it's about being musical, not technical. And to Clarence's point, I wasted 10-15 years trying to rush things in the first 5-10 years. After 15 years I spent 5-10 years relearnig the basics. It was annoying but satisfying because learning new things and surpassing the previous progress point was easier and faster every time. Practicing became more tedious going very slow for a long time and only slowly ramping up speed, but it produced faster results and more finesse and control.
When I started lifting, I had already reached the lesson of perfecting technique so the numbers progressing in certain way didn't bring as much satisfaction as doing it really nicely. The numbers didn't grow fast at all, they would be embarrassing to say the least if compared to others and how much time was spent. But I kept improving myself. With judo I also wanted to learn more new things as I gained the first marks of progress. Then I realised I couldn't do any of it well. Spent months of summer doing 1-2 basic throw shapes without partner, step by step only progressing when I felt I could do the previous step comfortably and consistently, eventually combining all the steps to fluid motion, twice a week for 2 hours. The end of the summer was glorious when I could always reach the positions consistently, comfortably, in control and with speed. All parts happening the right way, not needing to fix something different every rep. The body feels good when you can do things consistently with speed, even power. It's the same as with weightlifting, you just get satisfaction from doing it correctly and fast, when it feels effortless and light.
When I started learning magic tricks and cardistry, it shows especially, because it's an art whose purpose is solely to look good. It's not acceptable to perform a card trick and have every move shine through and reveal all the sleight of hand, it has to look perfect so the audience can get the satisfaction of not knowing how it happened, and the magical feeling of witnessing the impossible.
Whenever I go to the gym,people mock me for being extremely slow with my weightlifting progress. But I always remember this video and Clarence himself and he has been training for almost two decades.
I think about it like this.
Your current 80% won’t be your future 80%
i really like thinking long term and the idea of improving incrementally over time but there was really some death/time paranoia that made me feel like i had to work harder and faster than i should have. accepting that its better to be consistent and patient helped me with that paranoia and i feel a lot more content in general
I noticed this on many of things: When playing instruments, it's more effective when you spend your time playing slow as it will help you play faster. "if you can play it slow, you can play it fast".
As an engineering student, I prefer learning advanced mathematics from its very proofs and derivations, intuitively and rigorously instead of learning advanced formulas right away everytime. And I almost always tend to be the best in a group.
In competitive video games, chess, cycling I noticed it too.
oh you mentioned instruments
Its why many teachers set up their curriculum in whats called a "scaffolding education" Spending time building a foundation and base and only then building from those fundamentals. Its a proven method of learning that works. All of these streamlined learning programs basically eliminate the most important part of an education imo.
Im not a teacher but I have family who are and I find how they set up lesson plans pretty fascinating. A teacher really has more effect on a students success than I realized before this, they can put effort into crafting their own lessons or just meet the states requirements, both are technically doing their job but 1 is going to produce much better students.
This was legit inspirational, when a hydraulic press tells you slow progression is good, it’s good, wasted so much time and energy trying to focus on numbers instead of learning
"Why not imagine how good you'll be if you stick with a certain thing for 10 years?"
Because there's no guarantee you'll enjoy the thing for that long.
You know you made Zack a little giddy with that props at the end
This is an important way to think. Totally agree
true af !!! i have been and still training a client of mine in handstand ! i always told her to go slow after 2 years of training kick ups and technique stuff she is about to hit her handstand AND her form is beautiful better than all people after like 6 months of training
This goes probably everywhere. In algorithmic trading profits are important but not as important as a smooth and consistent equity curve. Linearity is key to almost anything in life
There is a saying in Jiujitsu, "Slow is fast. Fast is good."
Agreed dude. You guys have so much time - think about 10 years from now, not just a few months.
No reason to cram and burn out. Good habits are more important if you want to sustain progress and skills for life.
Had an awful snatch session and really needed this
Really needed to hear this right now. Thank you Clarence.
More speed, less haste. Very interesting and true for so many things
Very true. I found obtaining my judo black belt was less defined by winning fights and more better defined by perfection of the technique🥝🇳🇿😎
Judo is awesome. Way better than BJJ imo
I love you brother happy thanksgiving you are an inspiration
Really good message Clarence! I love it when people talk about biblical principles but in secular ways. Really good msg!
The last guy LOL. I really want to be in the room with everyone of these guys just to laugh and point at them.
5:31 a wild Frank Yang appears. One of the YT OGs
Love to see the Zack Telander cameo at the end ❤️
I literally did the fast approach to 80 kilos and plateaued and am not doing full snatches at 65 kilos and it’s actually more fun and feels better.
@pablo2004 Huh? How would being bored make power snatch feel feel better again? 🤡
Makes me happy my progress perfectly lines up with the slow approach. 9 Months 2 Weeks, to hit a 85/100KG total @77kg.
This is so wise!
Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
the challenges Clarence describes for going from 80 kg to 100kg snatch quickly, are basically the challenges I experienced when going from 60kg to 80kg. 😭 But now that I have my technique down, I feel like chipping away at 80 kg to 100 kg is going much smoothly! perfect video describing the challenges of progression in the snatch.
Thumbs up for that earthbound music. Iykyk
Learning "fast" in weight lifting would be putting together more hours say in 16 weeks of highly motivated sessions vs 8 months of 60% engagement sessions. Say in that 16 weeks you were able to get at it 4 hours per day with split up sessions 5 days per week of highly productive and motivated sessions ( 300 hours at 90% engagement and focus ) versus 8 months of 4 hours per week ( 128 hours at 60% engagement and focus ) . So in that 8 months you are not as engaged and motivated and not learning the material as quickly versus the 12 weeks, you are engaged and learning and retaining information much more quickly and powerfully.
The "time" and "quality of work" principle can be used at learning and advancing in any skill.
Another example was there is a man who put together a system to speed learn spanish, yet at a high level of proficiency. It was done by using 8-10 hours a day for 60 days 6 days a week, completely immersed in the problem ( 480-600 hours on the problem at 90% engagement ). He was a perfectly fluid speaker at the end even more so than people who took 4 years of college study in 3-4 hour credit hours. ( 3-4 hours of class per week and 3-8 hours of study per week ( 560 hours at 60% engagement ). He simply got in more time on the problem with a higher level of engagement and focus.
That Frank Yang clip was nostalgic
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I suppose it shouldn't be surprising that Clarence is a thoughtful smart individual (given he's reached the highest level of expression in a sport, which requires great physical grit and focus but obviously also intelligence) - but it is.
Yup. I have a saying. Make it easy and repeatable, newbie gains messes up our reward vs effort system. We think it's always supposed to be easy and come quickly, once that slows down a lot of people don't know how to think about training. I used to want to rush 20lb PR'S, now I love 2.5-5lb accomplishments and progressing quality and consistency over quantity and bigger numbers right now.
Yes... this concept applies to anything one wants to master.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
This is good overall advice in most fields.
Turdy percent off is very tempting
I use this same logic to prevent me from wanting to use the overpowered shit in a video game. Great vid.
Ending this video with a ZT snatch is *chef’s kiss*. Great content as always
can confirm this when I self-taught myself powerlifting. using a template of sheiko (free online) and then staying true to the principle: train the form. I was able to add 80kg total in just 7 months while staying at the same weight, and it's 130kg added to my total in under 1 and a half years.
When its fast it wont last.
When its slow it will go.
I've been impatient lately as I work towards a three plate bench, I've been plagued by a problem with my left shoulder. I think I need to chill and work on my shoulder mobility and focus on my form and strength for as long as it takes
Thats why it is incredibly hard to become elite (or even advanced) at anything without a coach who holds you accountable on the fundamentals. You would have to be quite intelligent and patient and have a mature understanding of progress.
What approach did you take?
Great video.
If I spot this video in my list I’ll always watch it to remind to take my time…. a great lesson from Clarence0
So true 👍🔥❤️
I didnt snatch from the floor until about 2 months into lifting, my mobility and controll was verry bad but thanks to it my progress has been steady
I have been doing weightlifting moves for a couple of years now. Obviously the lockdowns didn't help. Starting Clarence's beginner weightlifting programme. I am a 50 year old woman going through menopause. If any of you ladies are training out there in the same position, get onto HRT as it helps your sessions.
I agree with Clarence Kennedy. I'll be lifting for the rest of my life, I have time to learn how to do it the right way
I used a semi-fast approach to deadlift 5 plates, then injured myself and started re-evaluating everything, and now I'm approaching everything slow.
nice to see you know frank yang
10 years of squattting id be 29 years old i wonder how strong i could be, interesting videos thank u Mr
Frank Yang on violin. Based.
Any skill requires time Programming, Weightlifting,Music ..etc People are getting obsessed with the ideal Programmer , weightlifter,Musician.. They are afraid of failure which is very possible in the beginning and they start doing things that are self destructive in the long run The solution is to chill out your inner self and put logic first in everything you do ... Difficult things are so mentally exhaustive that can be more if you get obsessed with the idea to skip your logic and listen just your emotion ... The main problem is to manage keep up with your logic and emotion in a world that pushes you to rush doing things that are extremely difficult even if there a lot scammers that tell you the opposite...
This is gold
Fantastic bro 💪
Wise words
For programming this is so true. You must enter the field slowly, learning how to think first, then you create stuff. Learning fundamentals takes time? Do you need 5 years to begin your career? No. Do you need more than 6 months? You bet.
That's why we always have to go back to technique training with light weight. Without a coach one may think or feel technique is great even when it isn't. You're wondering as you get stronger and stronger why suddenly one shoulder starts to hurt eg. That's the alert to check for technique and weakpoints, might be a job related issue, overuse, a weak stabilizer due to unsymmetrical technique, or tightness of some muscle. Not only in oly weightlifting, any compound exercise. Most people have unsymmetrical bodies, sooner or later will have to put in the work.
great video
Fantastic advice 👏
you have to take your time with any skill. those that can’t never master it
Clarence please post trainning videos
This is definitely a pervasive attitude in beginner lifting, and I see it leading to the idea that there is only one correct approach because it delivers the fastest results. Experimenting, making mistakes and departing from conventional wisdom is discouraged as it would slow down your results, even if it could lead to higher long-term sustainability and enjoyability.
This also becomes an issue when you chase a measure of progress that doesn't totally correlate with the actual goal. For example, if your goal is to gain muscle then one of the most easily trackable signs of progress is lifting heavier weights, but it's also possible to achieve that via other factors like technique changes. You might get sidetracked into chasing a high number on a lift, but find that your muscles aren't as big as expected because part of it was from these other factors. Now the high weight imposes enough stress that it becomes more difficult to keep progressing, and you have to take a step back to relearn an approach more conducive to your actual goal.
background is awesome what is it called?
Too bad the modern education system doesn’t value slow learning.
Damn Professor
Easy come, easy go.
Hope you're liking Notts fella
I take it a step further and like to go backwards so that I get there sooner...
Great vid. Thanks, bro
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It can go the other way too. Your technique can improve faster than your strength and that’s when injuries happen. When you’re able to get under more weight than your body is ready for
this is true about reading as well.
Is it a coincidence that when you say "a much better position to..." at 2:46 there just happens to apear a clip in which's background there is a position poster?
Highly informative!!