If you want to make it sadder, the AI professor is actually dead too now. They needed to stay in the Area 0 Lab to survive, as the power of the crystals that the lab was literally made from was what was keeping them alive. In going to the future/past, they essentially sacrificed themselves to a somewhat-slow death in order to stop the human professor's plan. My little headcanon is that the professor's little speech before leaving was just to soften the blow to the kids, so they wouldn't know they would die.
Wow, by the time she was bidding us goodbye I totally forgot she had said that when we first enter. That makes it even sadder, the fact the AI professor was able to gain some conscious and sympathy.
Another way of looking at it, is that they become a little more human as well, as they now have a finite lifespan. Perhaps that is something they would welcome.
When the text glitches to "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol!" for a brief moment, the text says "AI Sada/Turo has no intention of fighting any more!"
@@GatorEX Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research.
The journals reveal that Turo left Sada in Scarlet and Sada left Turo in Violet. I think the best resolution Arven's story could have is reuniting with his living parent. And I hope that happens in some DLC or something.
While I can't argue with the sentiment, I don't think that would work. The journals say "that man/woman left not long after the boy was born," meaning he was just an infant when they left. Even if Arven was successful in tracking down his other parent, they'd still be a complete stranger to him, and he to them
@@mudfishnick9768 They still left their kid with a nutcase who obsessed over the pokemon world equivalent of a 1900s adventure novel. They bear responsibility and I think they'd still have a lot to talk about.
Technically, we don't actually have direct confirmation that the other professor is still Arven's other half parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
It's still so fascinating to me how they basically had an entire story revolve around a character with literally _no_ screentime and somehow made it the best one they've had so far. "The plot is built off of two characters: the professor and the professor" summarizes everything pretty perfectly.
What I find interesting in Scarlet and Violet is the repeated motif of “Things you treasure”. What treasure to be exact? Riches? Achievements? Friends and Loved ones? Doesn’t matter, the story is centred within this one theme. To find and protect that which you treasure. A dream. But what happens when a dream goes too far and becomes an obsession? Case in Point is Professor Sada and Turo. They want a world where ancient/future pokemon coexist with modern Pokémon. They do their work faithfully and achieve it. However what are the consequences of this? Paldea’s ecosystem being endangered, People being put at risk, Their son neglected and grew up with no parent. Their dream has achieved great things and has made the impossible possible. But it has reached a point where anomalies are now being created. The Professor acknowledged this and brushed it off as natural selection. Is the AI our enemy? No, it’s our ally and sees the wrong in the Professor’s action. Is the Paradise Protection Protocol our enemy? No, it’s just a program that can’t think on it’s own. Is the Professor our enemy? No. They weren’t malevolent but was a danger. Scarlet’s and Violet’s true enemy is none other than that which you treasure most. A dream. Everyone has dreams, whether they are within reach or not doesn’t matter. Our friends in game have dreams of their own. Nemona dreamed of a rival to match her. Penny dreamed of a school with no bullies for her friends. Arven dreamed of his parents coming home one day and be a parent for once. The enemy was not the Professor, but the dream that they held dear. The disk pokemon down in Area Zero could have amplified that obsession, but it could never have planted the seeds that grew into this.
Yes! Creative writing lessons drill into the importance of theme, but you almost never really see how theme plays into stories. Scarlet and Violet is a shining example of why theme is needed. The theme of treasure is such a great driving force behind everything and connect s everything beautifully. In this essay, I will. Sada/Turo losing sight of the treasure that is their son, Arven treasuring Mabostiff so much he pursures legends and myths to heal him, Penny and the Team Star bosses treasuring their bonds very much, Geeta's whole thing about the Champions being Paldea's greatest treasure, the gems of Area Zero and Terastal Phenomenon, and the player desperately seeking the "treasure" in so many different areas but realising in the end that the true treasure is the bonds they made with Arven, Nemona, Penny, Koraidon/Miraidon and their Pokémon along the way. It's really inspiring me to put more effort into finding a theme in my writing, now that I have an example to guide me. This and Chicago.
The professor still knew about the destruction their plan would cause and went ahead anyway, dismissing it as being simply a part of life. And yet if destruction is such a natural thing, then why did they interfere with the dragons? Why give their life to save one if destruction is inherent to existence?
There has never been a character that I have wanted to give a hug to more than Arven. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING about him is tragic. How do you think he got his culinary skills? He had to eat, and since his parents weren't present, he would have to teach himself. But like any kid, he wanted to see his parents, and when he did, his best friend, Mabosstiff was mortally wounded, possibly by Terapagos, but I don't know. He looks at Koraidon/Miraidon with disgust because in essence, they are a reminder of his parents work, and Mabosstiff's injury. He does the one thing he can do in a desperate attempt to save his best friend, make food. And through his love and care saves his only family he has left. But as if the game didn't kick him down enough still... his parent comes asking for his help. When he finally sees them, it's not even them. It's just a robot wearing their face. But this shadow of his parent expresses thier pride in him, before being overtaken. GOD, man, let me give Arven a hug! He's suffered enough! At least let him meet N or Guzma so they can tell him everything will be alright!
The music during the battle feels incredibly sad. It's played as if it's a broken "triumphant" theme with the music trying to sound happy but it keeps going into the lower keys and even has that gap where there's only a couple of instruments playing without the beat. It felt like a good story, but had a sad ending especially for Arven
I've seen somewhere that the professors act as some kind of parental figure to the player (mostly father because the player's one aren't present except from Brandon/May) since they take you under their wings, teach you stuff and is affectionate towards you. With Sada and Turo you don't have that same feeling at all since you never see them in public and pretty rarely only to tell you to do something. You don't have the same protection that you get from the other professors.
They sorta played with it in this game - instead of the professor being the "parental figure" in your journey, in here it's Director Clavell (who, himself, is also a professor - that's the title usually given to the head of a school).
A hidden detail of the Time Machine, or at least I think so, the slot for the Scarlet/Violet book to put in looks similar to the back of Nintendo's first Gameboy.
I paused the video at the beginning when the text glitches to "you are challenged by the paradise protection protocol" and I just discovered that for a very brief moment it says "AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore" it's incredible
Another big hint to the professor being a robot is actually in their animation. When leaving an animated character idle it’s important for them to have some kind of movement (bobbing shoulders, slight swaying, etc.) to suggest some kind of life to the character. The professor actually lacks this idle breathing animation while everyone else still has it. It’s a neat little detail because it’s something you won’t even notice is there but you do notice when it’s missing and it automatically sets off alarm bells.
The ending actually nearly made me cry, Arven had no parents, I had expected the AI to basically become his new parent but it didn’t. It was just all sad
This game has the best writing for the first time in a long time, perhaps since Black and White. I felt so engaged and my heart raced a little with AI Turo's boss fight. Though it wasn't difficult, the story and atmosphere made it feel like everything was weighing upon my shoulders. I just wish this game had a little more time in the oven... If it didn't have all the bugs and issues, it probably would've gotten higher ratings.
It was a really cool twist! I saw the Casseopia twist from a mile away but the AI professor twist was really haunting and dark for a Pokemon game. It gave me what I was looking for. Plus, it really cemented and justified the terastilization gimmick way more than swsh ever did for dynamaxing... Like the end boss fight against the AI is chilling and the atmosphere is intense. My favorite part of the game despite having to very slowly walk down there while the friends exposition at me. I'm pretty disappointed that the dlc seems to have nothing to do with Kalos but maybe they're just hiding it?
it's downright brilliant how Professor Sada's and Turo's characters complemented each other, and while Professor Sada when we talk to her in person at the end of the game has a villain-like face with that sinister grin, Professor Turo is non-stop calm without emotion personally, I can't wait for the manga release of the Pokémoen Scarlet and Violt series where they could show the explosion or the creation of the professor's intelligence I also wonder how it will be in the anime because showing such a twist with the professor ( I wonder which one they would choose ) would finally add a more serious tone to the Pokémon series
This last stretch is the main reason I prefer scarlet & violet over sword & shield. It's far from perfect, or even finished honestly. But to have an actual story in a pokemon game is a rare thing. And decently fleshed out characters too. Sada, Turo and Arven were definitely my favorite pokemon characters in a while.
What's funny to think about is the fact that the paradoxes and legendaries in this game are unique and strong. But technically, in their times they are as common as a pidgey
The original professors are definitely villainous, the reason they defended the legendary was likely for their own gain and they wouldnt have cared otherwise. The professors being antagonists/villains is such a good subversion. Best villain we had in a while. And making the AI be better people than the actual professors. Id argue best writing pokemon has had since gen 5. Definitely best villain since then.
I’m shocked that the story surprised me. I didn’t really expect anything revolutionary or anything that would really make me feel anything besides overcoming a challenge with my clodsire. It kept its standard elite 4 plot line which made me think it would be a standard story, but there’s a strange level of emotional maturity in how Arven and Penny’s story was handled too.
one problem here IF you go read the Scarlet/violet book in the school entrance hall take a look at the pictures of the Great Tusk & Iron Treads you'll see a few differences with the actual Pokémon & further in Heaths writings you'll see several conflicts with the concept of a time Machine put fourth by the Living Professors Sada & Turo. witch is why I believe this Time Machines NOT a Time Machine but rather an emotional information driven Imagination Machine, Sada & Turo saw the images in the book so they imagined those Pokémon & others that would exist along side them in either a Future world or the Prehistoric past. in this video you provided me with the last part of this puzzle IF its an emotion driven Imagination engine then how would the AI Professor even use it? But if the AI is continually evolving then emotions are inevitable in this case I don't think AI Professors went through time but rather the machine opens an Ultra Wormhole & Creates the AI Professors Paradise world within the Ultra Space corridor. THIS in turn means 2 things if my theory is correct; FIRST That this Machine being man made is imperfect & can only send Robots & Pokeballs through because those are shielded from the machines effects, however Wield pokemon exist in Area Zero as you can't catch another trainers Pokémon. however there are 2 things that explain this 1. the Professor was Releasing them when they got them, 2 the balls were damaged upon return & released their contents to avoid killing the Pokémon trapped inside. Lastly if my Ultra Wormhole Theory is correct then anyone from Alola with a Solgaleo, Lunala, or Necrozma, should be capable of eventually finding & visiting Sada & Turo's Paradise worlds. Though I am interested to see how the Anime handles this cause in Violet Sada runs out as soon as Arven's born, and vice versa in scarlet but in the anime there's only 1 version so in the anime we'll see 2 ranks of students Scarlet uniform for first years & underclassmen & Violet for seniors (or honor students vs everyone else) with this it would be conceivable that Sada & Turo don't breakup in the anime & both die protecting Miraidon & Koriadon leaving the AI Professors behind who then travel to different worlds. no matter how this is done anime Arvens going to have the worst truth bomb in history finding out both his parents are dead, & his AI Surrogates abandoned him a second time.
I tend to think that it's a real time machine but the professors didn't build it, only got it working. It's been there effectively forever and will remain there forever.
The Story is the exact as the anime did. It isnt over. Its a journey. It will always be continued. I love the ending. And for the first time... not exactly... ... let me take examples: - In origins, the journey didnt end at capturing Mewtwo, is Red having Green and Oak pondering about their future. - In Gold and Silver is a little bitter sweet since you battle agains red but no resolution.. we dont know nothing about Gold/Ethan, he is just there.. the main char should have been Silver but who am I to complain, right? -Emerald has the Battle Frontier but it is the aameas Gols, we know nothing about Brendan.. ALTHOUGH, ORAS made clear that after the league, Brendan and May formed a great relationship and Delta Episode exapand the worldbuilding which was A MUCH NECESSARY DEVELOPMENT! - Sinnoh... the same as GSC.. the story is Barry's and we meeting his father at the battle frontier IS AN AMAZING jump although not as grwat as it ahould have been.. again.. -GEN V IS AMAZING! EVEN THE MOST POST GAME IS RELATED TO YOUR FRIENDS AND THE RESOLUTION OF THE ENTIRE GAME! IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLE! -Gen VI... not as much... it is a tied game to Alola multiverse and continuity but it is a self-contained adventure with your friends(from different lives ans cultures helping and befriends each other, almost harmless). -gen 8 SHOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING but no... we dont have any resolution about your friendship with Hop which for me is a crime. The qorst part of Galar is the player, why people onky tackles the others, bad gamers.
This was a great story and I understand the incomplete feeling at the end mainly because everyone except Arven gets a “happy ending” Penny: gets to keep her friends, gets a cool job and free of criminal charges Nemona: has a rival/friends on equal footing with her But Arven? The best he got was an answer to what happened. This is probably that feeling of incompleteness which is sad, but it is refreshing to know he’s doing well after the incident by talking with him in the school
Well, I’m waiting for next for another build up like this for another potential. Good story they need to have a fucking voice acting holy shit I’ll give the game at 10 out of 10 some voice acting to go with it. I feel like this game was missing some of that that’s small little detail, but the story was fucking amazing for Pokémon game.
I think that when the time portal opened above the professor during the fight the original professor linked to the clone and took over. Their minds lost in time travel trying to protect their obsession, they seemed way more emotional once they opened the portal rather than a protocal.
@@knowvoid9958 Because that was the Paradise Protection Protocol speaking through the AI. Remember, the AI was effectively deactivated during that (they had awareness of things but were powerless to affect anything), with their body used as a conduit for the other program.
It'll take a bite and realize she's not an organic being. Probably like biting a rock. She'll have some physical damage but she seems to get over that quite fast if the final sequences are any indication.
@@sn0wblake we still don't meet the one from our world though. The one we meet, look at what they tell you. Their story doesn't match up with the one from our world, and they give up their copy of Heath's book, something ours didn't do (they got the white book but still kept their copy of Heath's, since Arven found it at the lighthouse)
FINALLY someone pointing out how GENIUUUUS all the area zero part was ! I tryed a lot of time to explain to friend ! xD I just wish they could do a FULL game like that ! Ps : and thx for associating Quaritch to all that, i understood it that way too which made me love Quaritch in the second movie !
Yeah, I mean they suck as parents and are such awful people even the AI decided enough was enough. These really went out to get milk from Area Zero and never came back for Arven.
Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research. (Hinted that the one parent in each version left the other based on the notes you read) DLC hope they explain the plotholes of Area Zero.
What I find interesting is the implication that the other version's professor does exist in both games, but walked out on Arven and his other parent due to some unspecified disagreement. My hope is that we'll get to see them in the DLC and maybe Arven will finally get some closure.
I also like that the ending scene isn't just cheery celebration, they acknowledge that the whole ordeal was pretty hard on Arven with him finding out his neglectful parent wasn't so much neglectful as literally dead for 4 years. The group and their respective bike lizard walking with sad expressions before Nemona tries to cheer them up is a pretty good bit of story telling given what they just went through.
They died shortly before the start of the game that's why u see your ride pokemon fleeing away from area zero depending on how long between the first day of school to the treasure hunt is how long they been dead. Been at least a few weeks.
I've always had this fan theory that the professor died recently, as it's said that the box legendary fled after the skirmish that killed the original professor, and we see it fly out of Area Zero at the beginning of the game. I'm still wondering if there's holes to poke into this because I don't remember much of the dialogue, but I like it as it's food for thought.
@@sleepy_swirlsNo it was only said the ride legend fled after losing a territorial dispute with the other of its kind. It's not actually said which Pokemon killed the professor, so there is room for it to be a different Pokemon. And we do know the prof stopped talking to Arven years ago. There is definitely possibility the professor has been dead much longer.
Did anyone else notice "The Way Home" storyline never got a "complete!" screen? Like Victory Road and Starfall Street did get complete/congratulations screens for finishing the path so I think the DLC will finish the Professor's Storyline
well the way home storyline is for koraidon as a way home, and we never really did go to koraidon's home, which is past paldea. So we never really did find the way home, but sada did.
Pretty sure the third legendary who actually created the paradox pokemons had somehow influenced Sada/Turo’s mind to build the time machine. That’s why even the their own AI robot who has the same thought process can’t find logic in the original professor’s action
Hands down. Especially after the "I don't care about a single person in this game, especially this idiot who can't wait ONE GOD DAMN DAY to let his accomplice play with his brother and his friend" that was Sword and Shield.
I think it’s great that we now get to hand another “Congrats on being a terrible parent” badge to a Pokémon character. Ghetsis and Lusamine have a new club member!
Every parent that lets their 10 year old children explore a world filled with super dangerous creatures that can kill you with just a thought: hold my beer
I find it really interesting, the dynamic Game Freak made between Arven and his parent(s). Literally neither they nor their robot replicas made any time for him. Even the prerecorded messages gave him no comfort or closure. I was hit pretty hard by that and I still am. Poor Arven
I believe that the AI professor did care for Arven but only because of a realization of how isolated he was because of how the professor was so neglectful. For example, I believe that the AI’s statement that the professor did care for him was to make Arven feel better, and the ambiguous message earlier by Professor Sada?/Turo? Was also likely by the AI, judging by its speech.
When that part of the story hit in Violet, I was like "Everybody left and man was so busy he made a literal copy of himself and NEITHER OF THEM took care of that kid." I was so mad.
@@tully6648 The AI couldn't though. They couldn't leave the crater. And the professor didn't so much make the AI because they were busy, they made the AI because they were paranoid and found that nobody else could be trusted
I recently beat scarlet and the ending was one of the only parts I wasn't really spoiled about, so seeing the entire plot with AI Sada was something I hadn't seen in Pokemon. I'm glad the game didn't just end with becoming the champion and instead left us with the ending we have now.
I kind of loved how the whole Area Zero saga became like soft-core horror. The music was so eerie; it put me on edge the whole time I was progressing to the bottom. And the little bits in the journals at each Station added to the growing creep factor. By the time I came face to face with the AI Professor, I was questioning every interaction I'd had in the game 🫠
It gave me ARG vibes as I read the different notebooks around the lab. Then see the the other one of the legendary of the game choose to watch you in the dark scared me.
The AI being the good guy and the professor being the antagonist is refreshing but I wouldn't call them the bad I think they were being influence by the third legendary
I think a big thing about the human Professor is that we just don’t meet them, so we can really say they’re a villain. All we have to go off of is the result of their actions, so yeah, definitely very interesting. Wonder if we’ll find out more about them.
@@GatorEX Well the AI finds no logic in bringing in pokemon from other eras that can disrupt the balance of the natural ecosystem. It's bad enough people develop the natural landscape and leaving pokemon with fewer habitats but there's the adding of invasive species from different times where they may end up confused and go wild in the modern world while also damaging the unique balance of the current era.
@@hunterhq295 It's because it's purely an emotional decision. The professor wanted to recreate this fictional world they were obsessed with as a child, when in reality, if the imagination theory about Paradox Pokemon is true, that world doesn't actually exist. So the only thing they could do was try to turn our world into that imagined place through destroying the current one. An AI thinks logically, so it can't see the benefit of doing this, as the world the Professor wants won't ever become a reality no matter how many paradox pokemon they flood Area Zero with.
@@boiankoI wouldn't call it purely emotional as much as a complete obsession. Because there is no emotional consideration given to the lives of other Pokemon and even people. It was both logically and emotionally cold and short-sighted. Something was totally wrong with the prof. They became a mad scientist really.
AI Sada disagreeing with the human professors goals actually inspired me to write an entire alternate universe fan fiction series just exploring what kind of life she would lead if she did get out of Area Zero and it's just major wish fulfilment just giving Arven the good parent he deserves
PLEASE SHARE THIS. I love stories like that, dealing with Arven having a real relationship with the AI, and the AI having their own...well not "life" since they're not a living being, but being able to find happiness. I've written a few myself if you look at my community tab
It was said that the AI was built with the same mindset as the professor. At the end, the AI tells Arven how much it liked and its proud of him. It wasn't the AI feeling but the professor's ones to his/her son. I find it really interesting cause despite the fact that the AI is the exact same as the professor, it cannot understand his/her mindset of letting the Paradox destroy the Paldea ecosystem. It really shows how the professor became insane to the point he/she's unrecognizable
I think the original professor lied. I think it didn't give all memories to the AI and left a crucial yet painfull part out of the AI's memory. For example, the other parent that left or information about the legendary from the DLC. This pain/knowledge shaped the original professor in a way that the AI cannot understand.
Another thing to note is the AI saying "so I understand better than any, your mother/father truly loved you" basically admitting that they themselves love Arven. I think that the reason the AI didn't tell Arven the truth earlier and went to the past/future is that they where scared, scared they could not replace the parent Arven lost and also scared of Arvens rejecting it. Basically they ran away. Throughout the whole dialogue the AI avoids speaking to Arven directly and whenever it does, the game doesn't show it's eyes, something typically used in media to show people hiding their emotions. I don't think the original professors where evil and the AI is basically mirroring a version of them that wasn't consumed by ambition, obsession over their dream and probably also grief of their lover abandoning the dream they probably shared. The difference between the games is probably what the professors choose to focus on, past or future, something either professor is more personally invested in, leaving the other with a more neutral view of the situation, eventually realising how much this obsession is consuming them, eventually making them walk out on the project.
Honestly, Sada/Turo (depending on the version you play) definitely are my favorite professors in a long time (before it was Juniper since she felt like a motherly figure to you and your friends in all of the gen 5 games) and honestly. If we do get DLC, regardless if we do see the AI professor again or not, would be cool if they bring them up regardless so we can learn more about them.
@@christopherbennett5858 I would love that but I feel almost like that would defeat the purpose of the story. I do want the AI to return and I do want them to have a good relationship with Arven though. And if it would be a parent and child relationship then it would have to be something that develops on its own rather than as a substitute for the professor
I'M FROM THE FUTURE! HERE TAKE THIS BOOK! TAKE IT TO THE KITAKAMI CRYSTAL POOLS! YOU'LL MEET SOMEONE THERE! HAND THIS TO THEM AND THEY'LL TRADE IT FOR THEIR SCARLET/VIOLET BOOK! THIS IS A TIME LOOP! YOU NAMED THE WINGED KING AND IRON SERPENT!
I could definitely see that happen. However, they were still absent in Arven’s life if that was the case. Oh they could try to make up and start over but, as far as he’s concerned, Arven’s true family were Mabosstiff and the AI professors.
Who says they even exist? We technically have no direct confirmation that Sada/Turo are Arven's other parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
I saw a thumbnail with the Crystalized Professors while I was still playing the main story. I thought the Crystals were like the chordyceps virus and was controlling them. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised and relieved to not have been spoiled cuz I’d been trying SO hard to stay spoiler free and had done a relatively good job up to that point.
I remember seeing some fan art about Arven's relationship with the professors, so I thought that effectively spoiled them as the twist villains of the games. But then I got to Area Zero and found out about the AI Professor. I was so happy that I didn't learn the truth ahead of time and I was able to experience the this storyline relatively spoiler free. Finding out that the professor was dead this whole time was such a brutal twist, especially for poor Arven. While the real Professors might not have been villains exactly, the fact that they went so far to protect the time machine gave me the impression that they were completely blinded by their obsession with the past/future. Nothing and no one else mattered to them by that point. I didn't think that the ending felt incomplete, but I did think that they glossed over Arven's grief a bit too quickly afterwards. It's possible that the AI Professor could appear in the DLC or more likely that the time machine still has some effects on Paldea since I would assume we'd get some more Paradox Pokemon at least.
What made me stay up at night thinking about is where the remains of the Professor are. Are they buried in the rubble near where we meet the AI professors as a sort of makeshift burial? Or were they just left somewhere to be eaten by the wildlife in Area Zero? Not to mention, they were still slightly alive before passing away so imagine them thinking about Arven and their regrets as they slowly succumbed to their injuries... Sorry for such a dark comment idea. I know Pokemon wouldn't show an actual corpse, but it's still something to think about...
I've honestly thought about that too. And worse the idea of those last moments when it finally hits them, they have no one. They died out there where no one could reach them. Where no one even knew they were gone. The AI would keep things going, meaning it could have been months or even years before anyone even thought to look for them had the AI not had enough conscience to reach out for help. If they had thought of Arven, was it with regret? With fear if he'd be okay? With sorrow that he may never know what happened to them? Or was it just selfishness to the end, dying with the thought how they'd never get to see their dream realized because of this foolish bitter end?
i saw a comic where the AI sent professor turo's ashes to the future, not quite sure how it would have cremated him down there but it was a sweet concept
This is defiantly an ending that leaves you a bittersweet feeling. Fairly rare in a Pokemon Game that makes you feel this way, BW and SM are very closeto giving that same feeling but Scarlet and Violet really makes you feel this way, as if you feel like you might have failed. They brilliantly have you connect with the A.I. despite the little time you have with it, and to see it go makes you feel bad for not just the A.I. but also Arven as well.
I love the whole concept of the ai professors. I got a little choked up when Sada went through the time machine. What freaks me out a little is that the Paradise Protection Program uses the Koraidon/Miraidon that supposedly caused the death/killed the living professor. Like, we had to stare down a pokemon capable of causing death, and it even says "running away would put everyone else in danger!" Like, it WOULD kill us, if we didn't have our own bike lizard. The fact that the Program uses that pokemon regardless of its crimes is interesting too.
I’m curious as to whether the opposite version Professor appears alive and well in the DLC (Turo in Scarlet/Sada in Violet), perhaps as part of an expedition team alongside Nemona’s parents, who are also strangely absent in the base game… 🤷🏻♂️ Ooh, and imagine if Heath is revealed as Penny’s ancestor! Now, _that’d_ be an interesting way to include all three of the player’s friends and classmates. 🤔 The only other thing that comes to mind is that Raifort could be the one to set the player on-course (pun not intended), and is revealed as a colleague of one or both professors, which could make her Arven’s legal guardian in their absence… well, other than his good boi Mabosstiff, of course. 🐾
since the other professor walked out on arven when he was a baby, I think it's entirely possible that they could reappear in the dlc, but I wonder if that would feel like artificially extending arven's story if that makes sense. I liked the ending and it felt natural, so bringing back the other parent might alter that 🤷🏻♀️ but it would be funny to see arven chew out his other parent for leaving & reappearing with no notice 😂
It breaks my heart to know that we never actually saw Professor Sada, and that she was dead all along. Really hurts to hear this about one of the best Paldean waifus.
@@meta527II one of the best waifus? She was a mad scientist who ditched her son to be a paranoid cave gremlin for years and had already stopped replying to him long before she died
I also think it's very interesting that, while talking to Arven during the final moments of this plotline, the name box sometimes says "Professor Sada/Turo?" instead of "AI Sada/Turo", though I am not sure how this could be interpreted... apparently more of the real professor coming through again? I mean a part of them kinda continued to live through the AI, eventhough they are seperate characters
They don't really need electricity to function. They said they rely on the Terastal crystals to stay alive. So, both of them have very limited time in their time periods.
I got the feeling on the first play threw that when journals talked about "They left.." it was in reference to the other professor (Sadda for Violent Turo for Scarlet) So Arven dose have a parent they never even knew still out there opening up DLC Of the "Opposite" Prof showing up
This has got to be one of the best storylines in a Pokémon game yet. When telling a friend about the story they couldn’t believe Pokémon would tackle such a heavy topic as the lost of a parent & abandonment. When playing it and heading deeper into the crater I got to the point of being like “I have a bad feeling about this…” but I never suspected Sada & Turo were AIs.
I'll be honest, that last hour or so of the game rivals the entirety of Gen 5 for me, which is high praise cause Gen 5's story is great. Idk what happened during the writing of the last part of the story here, but I'm glad it *did* happen. :) My only real complaint about this section of SV is just how interchangeable Sada and Turo are. They're literally just the same character with a different skin, which sucks (Also Violet overall makes less sense to me, it feels like the story was written for Scarlet and they just remembered Violet existed later into development).
Violet makes less sense story-wise? Honestly, I feel like Scarlet is the one that makes less sense due to future related stuff like AIs and time machine being presented in a past- focused game.
@@adrianleonce455 She may dress like a cavewoman but she's still a professor, she *would* be using a lot of technology. Besides, how else would she be able to bring stuff in from the past without the time machine? Its not like she's just gonna stumble upon Celebi.
@@Cuprite1024 Hmmmmm, yeah you kinda got a point🤔. She may focus on the past, but that doesn't mean she can't use technology to research it. It's kinda like Jurassic Park now that I'm thinking more of this. Though, I still don't understand the "story written for Scarlet first" part.
It's weird because I feel like bringing Pokémon into the past to co-exist with humans is more realistic than bringing them from the future and works better with what real life science is trying to do. But the AI assistant being an identical copy of the real professor and the time machine feels more in line with futuristic technology, it's a weird mish-mash but it's probably somewhat intentionally written that way so that it works with both themes.
This battle instantly became my favorite final boss of the whole series, and one of my favorite final bosses of all time. I really wanted the Professor to be evil. What I got is even better. The orignal professor is arguably evil and is clearly the antagonist... but they're long dead. And what we're fighting against is what they left behind. I LOVE that. And then we have the AI twisting the trope of Evil AI Replacing Character by being the good guy while the original professor's was the bad guy. And being able to befriend the AI after being suspicious of the professo for all this time felt nice. And another trope I like is characters having to fight against their friends against their will, but I usually find it unsatisfying when the situation is resolved by the possessed / controlled character regaining control of themselves only through their own will and / or the power of friendship. But here, the AI is fighting us against their will... but they truly are powerless against their programming. There's no easy way out, we have to fight and beat them. And the battle itself is really cinematic. The AI using the time machine just before the battle to assemble their team, the Master Ball finishing the capture in the AI's hand, the AI towering above us and casually drooping Master Ball after Master Ball. And the music is so good. And mechanically, it's a very fun and unique challenge to fight all those strange Pokémon whose typing you don't know yet. And the scripted legendary battle right after really cool. I'm a little obsessed with final bosses in video game, and I love to imagine how I would've personally changed a villain or a final boss to make it better. But here, I struggle to find anything to improve. This final battle really surpassed my expectations, and my expectations for final bosses are always really high. TL;DR: I really really love this final boss.
I think the only way the final boss could possibly be improved would be to have the Guardian of Paradise Terastallize and make you, Arven, Nemona and Penny fight it in a 4-on-1 Tera Raid-style battle.
My dlc theory is that the paradox Suicune/Virizon being a guardian to the third legendary that was always in area zero. Especially as Arven's mabosstiff got injured by a paradox pokemon but he never recognized one inside area zero when the time machine opened
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Possibly, assuming that she even died. I imagine that they can last a lot longer than a human lifespan. I did read a fanfic where Arven found AI Sada's broken down shell and set about recruiting everyone possible to repair her. It was really good and kept me in suspense if it would even work right up to the end.
I understood the ai professor differently 🤔. I understood that the ai was made to run the time machine; as in it was part of it. The professor copied their mind and after their death the ai (which has a copy of the professors mind) realized how dangerous it all was. The Ai was running off the professors knowledge until the security system activated which was a simple goal(protect time machine) related ai behavior written by the original professor before they saw how dangerous it all was...but that's just how I interpreted it 😅
@@OniBoiXD we know the AI had differed with the professor during their lifetime because they mention the professor's flippant response to that objection
The ending for this story made me cry and I don’t remember the last time a Pokémon game made me do that. It’s by far my favorite story in any Pokémon game period.
Think about the opening scene once more, we never see the professor's human body or meet them for real because they're dead, right? Miraidon and Koraidon are flying away from Area Zero during the time, having recently gone weak and collapse onto the beach after escaping the Crater. Escaping the Crater. From the other Miraidon/Koraidon. I like to think that means that as we begin the game, the Professor died as soon as the game started.
The legendary is fleeing as it losses the battle against its counterpart.. the professors died a long time and it wasnt stated if the Mirai and Korai were responsible since the diary just said a pokemon started to rampage.
@@aristotleisarocker Incorrect. "The professor died protecting your Miraidon." As well as the part where it is stated "He failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon." Therefore, he died due to the consequences of not being able to make a judgement on the much more viscious Miraidon, dying whilst protecting the Story Miraidon.
@@cheesecakes4517 then that means it was a long time and since the other legendary is savage it bullies out our mirai, korai out of area zero. cause if that just happened just as we started we could have atleast see or even the ai would said where turo/sada body lies..
@@aristotleisarocker Why would it tell us that? Furthermore, why would there be a reason to? The body can easily be crystallized over eithin a few moments given how Terastal Crystals work, and to put more statements forth; "Then that means it was a long time ago." It was, the beginning of the game WAS a long time ago. The game makes it very clear that our journey is arduous and long. Considering the frames, I'd say months worth of time. That is /more than enough/ to be considered long. Arven even says his contact suddenly stops over time, and since his adventure begins right when we have plans to go on our pathway to uva/naranja, he could have JUST lost contact, considering once more there is a huge time-gap between your arrival and the treasure hunt.
@@cheesecakes4517 It never said "he failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon", it just says he failed to judge "the Pokémon" and that "the Pokémon wasn't to be blamed." It was deliberately kept vague as to what attacked your ride legendary.
I’ve never really cared for Pokémon plots before this and PLA. I’m definitely glad I avoided spoilers for Area Zero. The buildup to the reveal was so well done and I definitely wasn’t expecting the professor to have been killed by one of the Paradox pokemon. And the AI being forced to stop you from shutting down the Time Machine made a really cool fight. I can’t tell you how bad I felt for Arven once he realized his only parent was dead and that he never really had a chance to have a parental relationship with them. And that his only family was Mabosstiff. The fact a Pokémon story made me feel something is something I never thought I would say. (Not counting the Mystery Dungeon games. Those have really good plots as well.) While SCVI are extremely glitchy games, the story they tell makes up for it for me. I do hope the DLC helps explain the events that led up to the creation of the Time Machine and what the Disk Pokemon is and how the professors became so intrigued with time travel that they were willing to risk Paldea’s safety and their own lives.
If you want to make it sadder, the AI professor is actually dead too now. They needed to stay in the Area 0 Lab to survive, as the power of the crystals that the lab was literally made from was what was keeping them alive. In going to the future/past, they essentially sacrificed themselves to a somewhat-slow death in order to stop the human professor's plan. My little headcanon is that the professor's little speech before leaving was just to soften the blow to the kids, so they wouldn't know they would die.
Wow, by the time she was bidding us goodbye I totally forgot she had said that when we first enter. That makes it even sadder, the fact the AI professor was able to gain some conscious and sympathy.
I feel like turo is fine. He’s going to a future paldea I’m sure there’s plenty of Tera energy. Sada is dead tho which is unfortunate.
@@kingteddieP4 Perhaps. The crystals could be there in the past, she would just need to find them in time.
There's no reason to assume that the crystals don't exist in the past or future.
Another way of looking at it, is that they become a little more human as well, as they now have a finite lifespan. Perhaps that is something they would welcome.
When the text glitches to "You are challenged by the Paradise Protection Protocol!" for a brief moment, the text says "AI Sada/Turo has no intention of fighting any more!"
😔
@@GatorEX Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research.
Honestly the glitching creeped me out, it was really well done.
To add more to this right when the text begins to glitch it says Paradise Protection Protocol initiated!
The text changing was so cool
The journals reveal that Turo left Sada in Scarlet and Sada left Turo in Violet. I think the best resolution Arven's story could have is reuniting with his living parent. And I hope that happens in some DLC or something.
@Lynnisveryc★★l My older brother would call the police. His dad didn't even want him to be born.
While I can't argue with the sentiment, I don't think that would work. The journals say "that man/woman left not long after the boy was born," meaning he was just an infant when they left. Even if Arven was successful in tracking down his other parent, they'd still be a complete stranger to him, and he to them
@@mudfishnick9768 They still left their kid with a nutcase who obsessed over the pokemon world equivalent of a 1900s adventure novel. They bear responsibility and I think they'd still have a lot to talk about.
@Theultimateshitanimator you can create a dark story without swears. instead of swears, you get body language to show how frustrated he is.
Technically, we don't actually have direct confirmation that the other professor is still Arven's other half parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
It's still so fascinating to me how they basically had an entire story revolve around a character with literally _no_ screentime and somehow made it the best one they've had so far.
"The plot is built off of two characters: the professor and the professor" summarizes everything pretty perfectly.
@@theginkgo And when we meet them in the DLC, we still don't meet them, because they're from another timeline.
Okay so fun fact feminine version of past in Spanish is pasada and the masculine version of future in Spanish is futuro.
Overall region is quite spanish so not surprising really
What’s crazy is she is wielding the Pokémon that killed her original self. She’s practically wielding her own murderer
I was so sad when I saw this.
I just kept saying to myself:
"What on Earth am I gonna tell Arven?"
Before following the AI to the elevator I ran back outside and tried to find Arven. I was very disappointed that I couldn't find him.
What I find interesting in Scarlet and Violet is the repeated motif of “Things you treasure”. What treasure to be exact? Riches? Achievements? Friends and Loved ones? Doesn’t matter, the story is centred within this one theme. To find and protect that which you treasure. A dream. But what happens when a dream goes too far and becomes an obsession?
Case in Point is Professor Sada and Turo. They want a world where ancient/future pokemon coexist with modern Pokémon. They do their work faithfully and achieve it. However what are the consequences of this? Paldea’s ecosystem being endangered, People being put at risk, Their son neglected and grew up with no parent. Their dream has achieved great things and has made the impossible possible. But it has reached a point where anomalies are now being created. The Professor acknowledged this and brushed it off as natural selection.
Is the AI our enemy? No, it’s our ally and sees the wrong in the Professor’s action.
Is the Paradise Protection Protocol our enemy? No, it’s just a program that can’t think on it’s own.
Is the Professor our enemy? No. They weren’t malevolent but was a danger.
Scarlet’s and Violet’s true enemy is none other than that which you treasure most. A dream. Everyone has dreams, whether they are within reach or not doesn’t matter. Our friends in game have dreams of their own. Nemona dreamed of a rival to match her. Penny dreamed of a school with no bullies for her friends. Arven dreamed of his parents coming home one day and be a parent for once. The enemy was not the Professor, but the dream that they held dear. The disk pokemon down in Area Zero could have amplified that obsession, but it could never have planted the seeds that grew into this.
Yes! Creative writing lessons drill into the importance of theme, but you almost never really see how theme plays into stories. Scarlet and Violet is a shining example of why theme is needed. The theme of treasure is such a great driving force behind everything and connect s everything beautifully. In this essay, I will. Sada/Turo losing sight of the treasure that is their son, Arven treasuring Mabostiff so much he pursures legends and myths to heal him, Penny and the Team Star bosses treasuring their bonds very much, Geeta's whole thing about the Champions being Paldea's greatest treasure, the gems of Area Zero and Terastal Phenomenon, and the player desperately seeking the "treasure" in so many different areas but realising in the end that the true treasure is the bonds they made with Arven, Nemona, Penny, Koraidon/Miraidon and their Pokémon along the way.
It's really inspiring me to put more effort into finding a theme in my writing, now that I have an example to guide me. This and Chicago.
The professor still knew about the destruction their plan would cause and went ahead anyway, dismissing it as being simply a part of life.
And yet if destruction is such a natural thing, then why did they interfere with the dragons? Why give their life to save one if destruction is inherent to existence?
There has never been a character that I have wanted to give a hug to more than Arven. Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING about him is tragic. How do you think he got his culinary skills? He had to eat, and since his parents weren't present, he would have to teach himself. But like any kid, he wanted to see his parents, and when he did, his best friend, Mabosstiff was mortally wounded, possibly by Terapagos, but I don't know. He looks at Koraidon/Miraidon with disgust because in essence, they are a reminder of his parents work, and Mabosstiff's injury. He does the one thing he can do in a desperate attempt to save his best friend, make food. And through his love and care saves his only family he has left. But as if the game didn't kick him down enough still... his parent comes asking for his help. When he finally sees them, it's not even them. It's just a robot wearing their face. But this shadow of his parent expresses thier pride in him, before being overtaken.
GOD, man, let me give Arven a hug! He's suffered enough! At least let him meet N or Guzma so they can tell him everything will be alright!
Let’s not forget my favourite part of the storyline...
The part where you get sued by ed sheeren
The music during the battle feels incredibly sad. It's played as if it's a broken "triumphant" theme with the music trying to sound happy but it keeps going into the lower keys and even has that gap where there's only a couple of instruments playing without the beat. It felt like a good story, but had a sad ending especially for Arven
I've seen somewhere that the professors act as some kind of parental figure to the player (mostly father because the player's one aren't present except from Brandon/May) since they take you under their wings, teach you stuff and is affectionate towards you. With Sada and Turo you don't have that same feeling at all since you never see them in public and pretty rarely only to tell you to do something. You don't have the same protection that you get from the other professors.
If they're meant to be parental figures, then I calls dibs on Professor Kukui. Oak sucks!
I'm taking Sonia for reasons
They sorta played with it in this game - instead of the professor being the "parental figure" in your journey, in here it's Director Clavell (who, himself, is also a professor - that's the title usually given to the head of a school).
A hidden detail of the Time Machine, or at least I think so, the slot for the Scarlet/Violet book to put in looks similar to the back of Nintendo's first Gameboy.
I paused the video at the beginning when the text glitches to "you are challenged by the paradise protection protocol" and I just discovered that for a very brief moment it says "AI Sada has no intention of fighting anymore" it's incredible
Another big hint to the professor being a robot is actually in their animation. When leaving an animated character idle it’s important for them to have some kind of movement (bobbing shoulders, slight swaying, etc.) to suggest some kind of life to the character. The professor actually lacks this idle breathing animation while everyone else still has it. It’s a neat little detail because it’s something you won’t even notice is there but you do notice when it’s missing and it automatically sets off alarm bells.
The ending actually nearly made me cry, Arven had no parents, I had expected the AI to basically become his new parent but it didn’t. It was just all sad
For as lackluster as some aspects of the game were, the final story in Area Zero was very well done
I couldn't help but feel genuinely sad for AI Sada
The AIs are the most tragic characters in the entire main series games
This game has the best writing for the first time in a long time, perhaps since Black and White.
I felt so engaged and my heart raced a little with AI Turo's boss fight.
Though it wasn't difficult, the story and atmosphere made it feel like everything was weighing upon my shoulders.
I just wish this game had a little more time in the oven...
If it didn't have all the bugs and issues, it probably would've gotten higher ratings.
Hey, Sun and Moon exists.
"This is where I watched my parent die, Nemona."
"Let'S GeT SNacKS EverYONe!"
It was a really cool twist! I saw the Casseopia twist from a mile away but the AI professor twist was really haunting and dark for a Pokemon game. It gave me what I was looking for. Plus, it really cemented and justified the terastilization gimmick way more than swsh ever did for dynamaxing... Like the end boss fight against the AI is chilling and the atmosphere is intense. My favorite part of the game despite having to very slowly walk down there while the friends exposition at me. I'm pretty disappointed that the dlc seems to have nothing to do with Kalos but maybe they're just hiding it?
They died in an unfortunate motorcycle accident :(
it's downright brilliant how Professor Sada's and Turo's characters complemented each other, and while Professor Sada when we talk to her in person at the end of the game has a villain-like face with that sinister grin, Professor Turo is non-stop calm without emotion
personally, I can't wait for the manga release of the Pokémoen Scarlet and Violt series where they could show the explosion or the creation of the professor's intelligence
I also wonder how it will be in the anime because showing such a twist with the professor ( I wonder which one they would choose ) would finally add a more serious tone to the Pokémon series
Non-stop calm without emotion? Even in the original video call, "Turo" is smiling and gesturing.
I'm so mad I got spoiled this plot twist. Dang it.
This last stretch is the main reason I prefer scarlet & violet over sword & shield. It's far from perfect, or even finished honestly. But to have an actual story in a pokemon game is a rare thing. And decently fleshed out characters too. Sada, Turo and Arven were definitely my favorite pokemon characters in a while.
What's funny to think about is the fact that the paradoxes and legendaries in this game are unique and strong. But technically, in their times they are as common as a pidgey
The original professors are definitely villainous, the reason they defended the legendary was likely for their own gain and they wouldnt have cared otherwise. The professors being antagonists/villains is such a good subversion. Best villain we had in a while. And making the AI be better people than the actual professors. Id argue best writing pokemon has had since gen 5. Definitely best villain since then.
Anyone else notice that AI Sada's eyes went from blue to brown?
The story fr made me cry
I’m shocked that the story surprised me. I didn’t really expect anything revolutionary or anything that would really make me feel anything besides overcoming a challenge with my clodsire. It kept its standard elite 4 plot line which made me think it would be a standard story, but there’s a strange level of emotional maturity in how Arven and Penny’s story was handled too.
Never thought of it like that...
Pokémon Scarlett/Violet? More like Pokémon Feels/Emotions.
Arven:my parents is an Ai and it just teleport away wtf
one problem here IF you go read the Scarlet/violet book in the school entrance hall take a look at the pictures of the Great Tusk & Iron Treads you'll see a few differences with the actual Pokémon & further in Heaths writings you'll see several conflicts with the concept of a time Machine put fourth by the Living Professors Sada & Turo. witch is why I believe this Time Machines NOT a Time Machine but rather an emotional information driven Imagination Machine, Sada & Turo saw the images in the book so they imagined those Pokémon & others that would exist along side them in either a Future world or the Prehistoric past.
in this video you provided me with the last part of this puzzle IF its an emotion driven Imagination engine then how would the AI Professor even use it? But if the AI is continually evolving then emotions are inevitable in this case I don't think AI Professors went through time but rather the machine opens an Ultra Wormhole & Creates the AI Professors Paradise world within the Ultra Space corridor. THIS in turn means 2 things if my theory is correct; FIRST That this Machine being man made is imperfect & can only send Robots & Pokeballs through because those are shielded from the machines effects, however Wield pokemon exist in Area Zero as you can't catch another trainers Pokémon. however there are 2 things that explain this 1. the Professor was Releasing them when they got them, 2 the balls were damaged upon return & released their contents to avoid killing the Pokémon trapped inside.
Lastly if my Ultra Wormhole Theory is correct then anyone from Alola with a Solgaleo, Lunala, or Necrozma, should be capable of eventually finding & visiting Sada & Turo's Paradise worlds. Though I am interested to see how the Anime handles this cause in Violet Sada runs out as soon as Arven's born, and vice versa in scarlet but in the anime there's only 1 version so in the anime we'll see 2 ranks of students Scarlet uniform for first years & underclassmen & Violet for seniors (or honor students vs everyone else) with this it would be conceivable that Sada & Turo don't breakup in the anime & both die protecting Miraidon & Koriadon leaving the AI Professors behind who then travel to different worlds. no matter how this is done anime Arvens going to have the worst truth bomb in history finding out both his parents are dead, & his AI Surrogates abandoned him a second time.
I tend to think that it's a real time machine but the professors didn't build it, only got it working. It's been there effectively forever and will remain there forever.
I think there will be a game where we meet the ai professor in the future/past or where ever they went to
I would love that please just let the AIs be happy
Dang Pokemon predicted the NVDA stock run and it’s AI
I love the lack of a closure with this generation's story. It's interesting how after the ending, the tera energy coming out of area zero intensifies
Then, of course, there's the fact we are battling someone who only uses Master Balls.
The Story is the exact as the anime did.
It isnt over. Its a journey. It will always be continued. I love the ending. And for the first time... not exactly...
... let me take examples:
- In origins, the journey didnt end at capturing Mewtwo, is Red having Green and Oak pondering about their future.
- In Gold and Silver is a little bitter sweet since you battle agains red but no resolution.. we dont know nothing about Gold/Ethan, he is just there.. the main char should have been Silver but who am I to complain, right?
-Emerald has the Battle Frontier but it is the aameas Gols, we know nothing about Brendan.. ALTHOUGH, ORAS made clear that after the league, Brendan and May formed a great relationship and Delta Episode exapand the worldbuilding which was A MUCH NECESSARY DEVELOPMENT!
- Sinnoh... the same as GSC.. the story is Barry's and we meeting his father at the battle frontier IS AN AMAZING jump although not as grwat as it ahould have been.. again..
-GEN V IS AMAZING! EVEN THE MOST POST GAME IS RELATED TO YOUR FRIENDS AND THE RESOLUTION OF THE ENTIRE GAME! IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLE!
-Gen VI... not as much... it is a tied game to Alola multiverse and continuity but it is a self-contained adventure with your friends(from different lives ans cultures helping and befriends each other, almost harmless).
-gen 8 SHOULD HAVE BEEN AMAZING but no... we dont have any resolution about your friendship with Hop which for me is a crime. The qorst part of Galar is the player, why people onky tackles the others, bad gamers.
Game Freak seriously made two hot professors then killed them
It's ok Ed Sheeran became Arven's new dad
This was a great story and I understand the incomplete feeling at the end mainly because everyone except Arven gets a “happy ending”
Penny: gets to keep her friends, gets a cool job and free of criminal charges
Nemona: has a rival/friends on equal footing with her
But Arven? The best he got was an answer to what happened.
This is probably that feeling of incompleteness which is sad, but it is refreshing to know he’s doing well after the incident by talking with him in the school
Well, I’m waiting for next for another build up like this for another potential. Good story they need to have a fucking voice acting holy shit I’ll give the game at 10 out of 10 some voice acting to go with it. I feel like this game was missing some of that that’s small little detail, but the story was fucking amazing for Pokémon game.
@@noticemeonii-chan5347 I had fun voicing it myself in my playthrough
Best plot twist 😢
I think that when the time portal opened above the professor during the fight the original professor linked to the clone and took over. Their minds lost in time travel trying to protect their obsession, they seemed way more emotional once they opened the portal rather than a protocal.
They were long dead by that point though. If anything, the PPP was that side of themselves.
@@BJGvideos they were so full of fight ince the portal opened like a time ghost
@@knowvoid9958 Huh?
@@BJGvideos you didn't notice that the professor acted like a selfish human in the boss fight like he wasn't robot in the head at all?
@@knowvoid9958 Because that was the Paradise Protection Protocol speaking through the AI. Remember, the AI was effectively deactivated during that (they had awareness of things but were powerless to affect anything), with their body used as a conduit for the other program.
More than anything, I just want to know why AI Sada's eyes randomly turn brown at the end. I've not seen anyone else mention this.
2:38 *laughs in dlc*
Everyone who has beat the dlc and got terapagos go to the crystal lake
You know you fucked up as a professor when your own AI duplicate is telling you "It's time to stop!"
Imagine Sada going back in time
And her first encounter is an angry and hungry Tyrantrum
Sada: It seems I have left my Pokémon in the present…Oh dear…
It'll take a bite and realize she's not an organic being. Probably like biting a rock. She'll have some physical damage but she seems to get over that quite fast if the final sequences are any indication.
The end of the story and then being hit by Ed Sheeran's lyrics hit me in the feels. 😢
“we never meet the original professor because theyre dead”
this aged nicely
@@sn0wblake we still don't meet the one from our world though. The one we meet, look at what they tell you. Their story doesn't match up with the one from our world, and they give up their copy of Heath's book, something ours didn't do (they got the white book but still kept their copy of Heath's, since Arven found it at the lighthouse)
FINALLY someone pointing out how GENIUUUUS all the area zero part was !
I tryed a lot of time to explain to friend ! xD
I just wish they could do a FULL game like that !
Ps : and thx for associating Quaritch to all that, i understood it that way too which made me love Quaritch in the second movie !
I really liked the idea that the AI Professor had more concern and humanity than the original one.
I love it too! I've always wanted a story where a clone of a person is made and that clone is a better person than the original!!
Honestly, that Ai was more of a parent to that kid than his biological parents. Arguably more human than them as well.
Yeah, I mean they suck as parents and are such awful people even the AI decided enough was enough. These really went out to get milk from Area Zero and never came back for Arven.
@@DrawciaGleam02Just check like half the Gundam series - tonnes of clones in there XD
@@DrawciaGleam02 Then you'll like the story of Jango Fett's clones.
AI Sada was one the best plot twists in Pokemon S/V knowing that my boi Arven deserves all the hugs he can get dude has no more parents.
more like one of the biggest in any game
Regarding the AI when you battle them they have the title Professor in their name during their dialogue so it's hinted they are taking on the original Professor's traits and personality when they become mad after having neglected Arven and drowned themselves in their research. (Hinted that the one parent in each version left the other based on the notes you read)
DLC hope they explain the plotholes of Area Zero.
I can relate to Arven. It made me cry more than I should've. Guys, please cherish your memories with who you're close with, anyone you love the most.
What I find interesting is the implication that the other version's professor does exist in both games, but walked out on Arven and his other parent due to some unspecified disagreement. My hope is that we'll get to see them in the DLC and maybe Arven will finally get some closure.
Shakespeare would have had a field day with the tragedy of the Professor.
I also like that the ending scene isn't just cheery celebration, they acknowledge that the whole ordeal was pretty hard on Arven with him finding out his neglectful parent wasn't so much neglectful as literally dead for 4 years. The group and their respective bike lizard walking with sad expressions before Nemona tries to cheer them up is a pretty good bit of story telling given what they just went through.
They died shortly before the start of the game that's why u see your ride pokemon fleeing away from area zero depending on how long between the first day of school to the treasure hunt is how long they been dead. Been at least a few weeks.
I've always had this fan theory that the professor died recently, as it's said that the box legendary fled after the skirmish that killed the original professor, and we see it fly out of Area Zero at the beginning of the game. I'm still wondering if there's holes to poke into this because I don't remember much of the dialogue, but I like it as it's food for thought.
@@sleepy_swirlsNo it was only said the ride legend fled after losing a territorial dispute with the other of its kind. It's not actually said which Pokemon killed the professor, so there is room for it to be a different Pokemon. And we do know the prof stopped talking to Arven years ago.
There is definitely possibility the professor has been dead much longer.
When the party leaves the final dungeon with an existential crisis.
@@dialgamor1548no?? The game literally said the professors died protecting the losing lizard from the aggresive one
Did anyone else notice "The Way Home" storyline never got a "complete!" screen? Like Victory Road and Starfall Street did get complete/congratulations screens for finishing the path so I think the DLC will finish the Professor's Storyline
Good theory!
Or it could be symbolism to point out you never truly arrive home but the way home itself is a "home" already
well the way home storyline is for koraidon as a way home, and we never really did go to koraidon's home, which is past paldea. So we never really did find the way home, but sada did.
To be fair, we did get the credit sequence
Pretty sure the third legendary who actually created the paradox pokemons had somehow influenced Sada/Turo’s mind to build the time machine. That’s why even the their own AI robot who has the same thought process can’t find logic in the original professor’s action
Arven's storyline and the professor's story, as we learn about it during the game, may be my favorite part of any Pokémon game, period.
on par with N for me (tied for favorite pokemon story)
The rest felt ho-hum...no offense.
Hands down. Especially after the "I don't care about a single person in this game, especially this idiot who can't wait ONE GOD DAMN DAY to let his accomplice play with his brother and his friend" that was Sword and Shield.
@Bang me Chan i can feel the reddit emanating off this comment
I think it’s great that we now get to hand another “Congrats on being a terrible parent” badge to a Pokémon character. Ghetsis and Lusamine have a new club member!
Two new members
@@artemisblake3241 true. I also forgot about the founding member, Giovanni
Every parent that lets their 10 year old children explore a world filled with super dangerous creatures that can kill you with just a thought: hold my beer
bad parenting is the true antagonist of the pokémon franchise
@@MysteryMedia2001 I think they meant 2 in that each version has a different equally bad professor. Both Sada and Turo are terrible parents.
I find it really interesting, the dynamic Game Freak made between Arven and his parent(s). Literally neither they nor their robot replicas made any time for him. Even the prerecorded messages gave him no comfort or closure. I was hit pretty hard by that and I still am. Poor Arven
I’m just glad we can least be friends and that Mabosstiff is okay
I believe that the AI professor did care for Arven but only because of a realization of how isolated he was because of how the professor was so neglectful. For example, I believe that the AI’s statement that the professor did care for him was to make Arven feel better, and the ambiguous message earlier by Professor Sada?/Turo? Was also likely by the AI, judging by its speech.
When that part of the story hit in Violet, I was like "Everybody left and man was so busy he made a literal copy of himself and NEITHER OF THEM took care of that kid." I was so mad.
Not entirely true. Arven got emails for a while, and there was a time where he and his parent lived with the legendary in the lighthouse together.
@@tully6648 The AI couldn't though. They couldn't leave the crater. And the professor didn't so much make the AI because they were busy, they made the AI because they were paranoid and found that nobody else could be trusted
I recently beat scarlet and the ending was one of the only parts I wasn't really spoiled about, so seeing the entire plot with AI Sada was something I hadn't seen in Pokemon. I'm glad the game didn't just end with becoming the champion and instead left us with the ending we have now.
I kind of loved how the whole Area Zero saga became like soft-core horror. The music was so eerie; it put me on edge the whole time I was progressing to the bottom. And the little bits in the journals at each Station added to the growing creep factor. By the time I came face to face with the AI Professor, I was questioning every interaction I'd had in the game 🫠
i start dancing every time i go down to area zero, they had NO reason to make the music go that hard
It gave me ARG vibes as I read the different notebooks around the lab. Then see the the other one of the legendary of the game choose to watch you in the dark scared me.
The AI being the good guy and the professor being the antagonist is refreshing but I wouldn't call them the bad I think they were being influence by the third legendary
I think a big thing about the human Professor is that we just don’t meet them, so we can really say they’re a villain. All we have to go off of is the result of their actions, so yeah, definitely very interesting. Wonder if we’ll find out more about them.
@@GatorEX Well the AI finds no logic in bringing in pokemon from other eras that can disrupt the balance of the natural ecosystem. It's bad enough people develop the natural landscape and leaving pokemon with fewer habitats but there's the adding of invasive species from different times where they may end up confused and go wild in the modern world while also damaging the unique balance of the current era.
@@hunterhq295 It's because it's purely an emotional decision. The professor wanted to recreate this fictional world they were obsessed with as a child, when in reality, if the imagination theory about Paradox Pokemon is true, that world doesn't actually exist. So the only thing they could do was try to turn our world into that imagined place through destroying the current one. An AI thinks logically, so it can't see the benefit of doing this, as the world the Professor wants won't ever become a reality no matter how many paradox pokemon they flood Area Zero with.
The evilness of the real professor is debatable, but the ai does imply they wouldn't care about the wanton destruction caused by the Paradox Pokémon.
@@boiankoI wouldn't call it purely emotional as much as a complete obsession. Because there is no emotional consideration given to the lives of other Pokemon and even people. It was both logically and emotionally cold and short-sighted.
Something was totally wrong with the prof. They became a mad scientist really.
“Farewell, my free adventurers!
I bid you adieu!”
Kinda best scene + line in the game
But COMPLETELY HEARTBREAKING
So we can all agree that Arven’s the main character right?
Arven and Lillie from SM have a lot in common, but Lillie's ending was much happier.
And N, don’t forget the trifecta
AI Sada disagreeing with the human professors goals actually inspired me to write an entire alternate universe fan fiction series just exploring what kind of life she would lead if she did get out of Area Zero and it's just major wish fulfilment just giving Arven the good parent he deserves
PLEASE SHARE THIS. I love stories like that, dealing with Arven having a real relationship with the AI, and the AI having their own...well not "life" since they're not a living being, but being able to find happiness. I've written a few myself if you look at my community tab
i have amended this. The AI is totally a living being. Porygon are alive and they're just ducks made of code.
Anyway what is your story called?
It was said that the AI was built with the same mindset as the professor. At the end, the AI tells Arven how much it liked and its proud of him. It wasn't the AI feeling but the professor's ones to his/her son.
I find it really interesting cause despite the fact that the AI is the exact same as the professor, it cannot understand his/her mindset of letting the Paradox destroy the Paldea ecosystem. It really shows how the professor became insane to the point he/she's unrecognizable
I think the original professor lied. I think it didn't give all memories to the AI and left a crucial yet painfull part out of the AI's memory. For example, the other parent that left or information about the legendary from the DLC. This pain/knowledge shaped the original professor in a way that the AI cannot understand.
Another thing to note is the AI saying "so I understand better than any, your mother/father truly loved you" basically admitting that they themselves love Arven.
I think that the reason the AI didn't tell Arven the truth earlier and went to the past/future is that they where scared, scared they could not replace the parent Arven lost and also scared of Arvens rejecting it. Basically they ran away.
Throughout the whole dialogue the AI avoids speaking to Arven directly and whenever it does, the game doesn't show it's eyes, something typically used in media to show people hiding their emotions.
I don't think the original professors where evil and the AI is basically mirroring a version of them that wasn't consumed by ambition, obsession over their dream and probably also grief of their lover abandoning the dream they probably shared.
The difference between the games is probably what the professors choose to focus on, past or future, something either professor is more personally invested in, leaving the other with a more neutral view of the situation, eventually realising how much this obsession is consuming them, eventually making them walk out on the project.
Honestly, Sada/Turo (depending on the version you play) definitely are my favorite professors in a long time (before it was Juniper since she felt like a motherly figure to you and your friends in all of the gen 5 games) and honestly. If we do get DLC, regardless if we do see the AI professor again or not, would be cool if they bring them up regardless so we can learn more about them.
I like that Juniper was one able to debate against N
@@lightdarksoul2097 true
Same. Just so they can be the parents Arven deserves.
@@christopherbennett5858 I would love that but I feel almost like that would defeat the purpose of the story. I do want the AI to return and I do want them to have a good relationship with Arven though. And if it would be a parent and child relationship then it would have to be something that develops on its own rather than as a substitute for the professor
I'M FROM THE FUTURE! HERE TAKE THIS BOOK! TAKE IT TO THE KITAKAMI CRYSTAL POOLS! YOU'LL MEET SOMEONE THERE! HAND THIS TO THEM AND THEY'LL TRADE IT FOR THEIR SCARLET/VIOLET BOOK! THIS IS A TIME LOOP! YOU NAMED THE WINGED KING AND IRON SERPENT!
I like the idea of the opposite professor being introduced in the dlc. Who says Turo is dead in Scarlet and that Sada is dead in Violet?
I could definitely see that happen.
However, they were still absent in Arven’s life if that was the case.
Oh they could try to make up and start over but, as far as he’s concerned, Arven’s true family were Mabosstiff and the AI professors.
Who says they even exist? We technically have no direct confirmation that Sada/Turo are Arven's other parent. For all we know, Scarlet Arven's dad is just some bloke.
@@bessieburnet9816 Yeah. Plus, it’s weird that they didn’t even take custody of Arven.
@@christopherbennett5858 it’s stated the other parent left shortly after Arven was born as the professor became obsessed with their research.
@@wonderfulrose477 Makes sense but that still begs the question of where they are.
I saw a thumbnail with the Crystalized Professors while I was still playing the main story. I thought the Crystals were like the chordyceps virus and was controlling them. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised and relieved to not have been spoiled cuz I’d been trying SO hard to stay spoiler free and had done a relatively good job up to that point.
I remember seeing some fan art about Arven's relationship with the professors, so I thought that effectively spoiled them as the twist villains of the games. But then I got to Area Zero and found out about the AI Professor. I was so happy that I didn't learn the truth ahead of time and I was able to experience the this storyline relatively spoiler free. Finding out that the professor was dead this whole time was such a brutal twist, especially for poor Arven. While the real Professors might not have been villains exactly, the fact that they went so far to protect the time machine gave me the impression that they were completely blinded by their obsession with the past/future. Nothing and no one else mattered to them by that point.
I didn't think that the ending felt incomplete, but I did think that they glossed over Arven's grief a bit too quickly afterwards. It's possible that the AI Professor could appear in the DLC or more likely that the time machine still has some effects on Paldea since I would assume we'd get some more Paradox Pokemon at least.
When the robot is actually the one who realizes what is going on is wrong you know the actual human professor is messed up.
What made me stay up at night thinking about is where the remains of the Professor are. Are they buried in the rubble near where we meet the AI professors as a sort of makeshift burial? Or were they just left somewhere to be eaten by the wildlife in Area Zero? Not to mention, they were still slightly alive before passing away so imagine them thinking about Arven and their regrets as they slowly succumbed to their injuries...
Sorry for such a dark comment idea. I know Pokemon wouldn't show an actual corpse, but it's still something to think about...
One of my friends said Miraidon/Koraidon ate the professor
She's "that" friend
I've honestly thought about that too. And worse the idea of those last moments when it finally hits them, they have no one. They died out there where no one could reach them. Where no one even knew they were gone. The AI would keep things going, meaning it could have been months or even years before anyone even thought to look for them had the AI not had enough conscience to reach out for help. If they had thought of Arven, was it with regret? With fear if he'd be okay? With sorrow that he may never know what happened to them? Or was it just selfishness to the end, dying with the thought how they'd never get to see their dream realized because of this foolish bitter end?
If they were hit by Tera Blast it's possible that they were consumed by crystals and are in the giant crystal inside the fourth station.
I mean I ASSUME they were buried somewhere?
i saw a comic where the AI sent professor turo's ashes to the future, not quite sure how it would have cremated him down there but it was a sweet concept
i cant believe they used the whole "the real treasure was the friends we made along the way" as a plot theme and it works lmao
This is defiantly an ending that leaves you a bittersweet feeling. Fairly rare in a Pokemon Game that makes you feel this way, BW and SM are very closeto giving that same feeling but Scarlet and Violet really makes you feel this way, as if you feel like you might have failed. They brilliantly have you connect with the A.I. despite the little time you have with it, and to see it go makes you feel bad for not just the A.I. but also Arven as well.
I love the whole concept of the ai professors. I got a little choked up when Sada went through the time machine.
What freaks me out a little is that the Paradise Protection Program uses the Koraidon/Miraidon that supposedly caused the death/killed the living professor. Like, we had to stare down a pokemon capable of causing death, and it even says "running away would put everyone else in danger!"
Like, it WOULD kill us, if we didn't have our own bike lizard. The fact that the Program uses that pokemon regardless of its crimes is interesting too.
I’m curious as to whether the opposite version Professor appears alive and well in the DLC (Turo in Scarlet/Sada in Violet), perhaps as part of an expedition team alongside Nemona’s parents, who are also strangely absent in the base game… 🤷🏻♂️
Ooh, and imagine if Heath is revealed as Penny’s ancestor! Now, _that’d_ be an interesting way to include all three of the player’s friends and classmates. 🤔
The only other thing that comes to mind is that Raifort could be the one to set the player on-course (pun not intended), and is revealed as a colleague of one or both professors, which could make her Arven’s legal guardian in their absence… well, other than his good boi Mabosstiff, of course. 🐾
since the other professor walked out on arven when he was a baby, I think it's entirely possible that they could reappear in the dlc, but I wonder if that would feel like artificially extending arven's story if that makes sense. I liked the ending and it felt natural, so bringing back the other parent might alter that 🤷🏻♀️ but it would be funny to see arven chew out his other parent for leaving & reappearing with no notice 😂
Nah I think Heath is the ancestor of Clavell
Homer: “Arven saved his dog, but didn’t save his parent… is this a happy ending or a sad ending?” 🫤
Marge: “It’s an ending, that’s enough.” 🤷🏻♂️
Well now we have Briar and oh god
@@thepokemonqueen Would Arven even know his other parent by name?
I just wanna give the AI Professors a hug.
Same
It's a little creepy to think when we go to the wrecked research center,the original professor's body is somewhere inside.
Either they're inside the crystal (if the fatal blow was Tera Blast) or the ai buried them somewhere
Pretty sure Arvin's other parent is still alive as one of the books stated that I am just hoping that the other parent does meet Arvin
Yeah but it still means they walked out when Arven was an infant
It breaks my heart to know that we never actually saw Professor Sada, and that she was dead all along. Really hurts to hear this about one of the best Paldean waifus.
I cried... i cried a lot.
Cringe
Hey, she could be in the Violet DLC?
@@meta527II one of the best waifus? She was a mad scientist who ditched her son to be a paranoid cave gremlin for years and had already stopped replying to him long before she died
I also think it's very interesting that, while talking to Arven during the final moments of this plotline, the name box sometimes says "Professor Sada/Turo?" instead of "AI Sada/Turo", though I am not sure how this could be interpreted... apparently more of the real professor coming through again? I mean a part of them kinda continued to live through the AI, eventhough they are seperate characters
AI Sada made one big mistake...
Past=no electricity
Future=has electricity
AI Sada has much more limited time compared to Turo
Unless she can pop out solar panels or something
They don't really need electricity to function. They said they rely on the Terastal crystals to stay alive. So, both of them have very limited time in their time periods.
@@adrianleonce455 See that tells me that both of them will be fine, since there's no reason to think that those crystals won't exist in those times
I got the feeling on the first play threw that when journals talked about "They left.." it was in reference to the other professor (Sadda for Violent Turo for Scarlet) So Arven dose have a parent they never even knew still out there opening up DLC Of the "Opposite" Prof showing up
This has got to be one of the best storylines in a Pokémon game yet. When telling a friend about the story they couldn’t believe Pokémon would tackle such a heavy topic as the lost of a parent & abandonment.
When playing it and heading deeper into the crater I got to the point of being like “I have a bad feeling about this…” but I never suspected Sada & Turo were AIs.
I'll be honest, that last hour or so of the game rivals the entirety of Gen 5 for me, which is high praise cause Gen 5's story is great. Idk what happened during the writing of the last part of the story here, but I'm glad it *did* happen. :)
My only real complaint about this section of SV is just how interchangeable Sada and Turo are. They're literally just the same character with a different skin, which sucks (Also Violet overall makes less sense to me, it feels like the story was written for Scarlet and they just remembered Violet existed later into development).
Violet makes less sense story-wise? Honestly, I feel like Scarlet is the one that makes less sense due to future related stuff like AIs and time machine being presented in a past- focused game.
@@adrianleonce455 She may dress like a cavewoman but she's still a professor, she *would* be using a lot of technology. Besides, how else would she be able to bring stuff in from the past without the time machine? Its not like she's just gonna stumble upon Celebi.
@@Cuprite1024 Hmmmmm, yeah you kinda got a point🤔. She may focus on the past, but that doesn't mean she can't use technology to research it. It's kinda like Jurassic Park now that I'm thinking more of this.
Though, I still don't understand the "story written for Scarlet first" part.
It's weird because I feel like bringing Pokémon into the past to co-exist with humans is more realistic than bringing them from the future and works better with what real life science is trying to do. But the AI assistant being an identical copy of the real professor and the time machine feels more in line with futuristic technology, it's a weird mish-mash but it's probably somewhat intentionally written that way so that it works with both themes.
This game do have moments that makes us cry
This battle instantly became my favorite final boss of the whole series, and one of my favorite final bosses of all time.
I really wanted the Professor to be evil. What I got is even better.
The orignal professor is arguably evil and is clearly the antagonist... but they're long dead. And what we're fighting against is what they left behind. I LOVE that.
And then we have the AI twisting the trope of Evil AI Replacing Character by being the good guy while the original professor's was the bad guy.
And being able to befriend the AI after being suspicious of the professo for all this time felt nice.
And another trope I like is characters having to fight against their friends against their will, but I usually find it unsatisfying when the situation is resolved by the possessed / controlled character regaining control of themselves only through their own will and / or the power of friendship.
But here, the AI is fighting us against their will... but they truly are powerless against their programming. There's no easy way out, we have to fight and beat them.
And the battle itself is really cinematic.
The AI using the time machine just before the battle to assemble their team, the Master Ball finishing the capture in the AI's hand, the AI towering above us and casually drooping Master Ball after Master Ball.
And the music is so good.
And mechanically, it's a very fun and unique challenge to fight all those strange Pokémon whose typing you don't know yet.
And the scripted legendary battle right after really cool.
I'm a little obsessed with final bosses in video game, and I love to imagine how I would've personally changed a villain or a final boss to make it better. But here, I struggle to find anything to improve.
This final battle really surpassed my expectations, and my expectations for final bosses are always really high.
TL;DR: I really really love this final boss.
And I forgot to mention their character design which is GOATed.
I think the emotions this fight makes are perfectly summed up in 3 words which the AIs themselves says:
"Please... Defeat me"
@@autismandgaming4532 I actually cried during that part
I think the only way the final boss could possibly be improved would be to have the Guardian of Paradise Terastallize and make you, Arven, Nemona and Penny fight it in a 4-on-1 Tera Raid-style battle.
@@autismandgaming4532 God I wanted to hug the AI so bad.
My dlc theory is that the paradox Suicune/Virizon being a guardian to the third legendary that was always in area zero. Especially as Arven's mabosstiff got injured by a paradox pokemon but he never recognized one inside area zero when the time machine opened
This has to be one of my favorite story that Pokemon has done alongside Legends Arceus, Sun and Moon and Black and White.
Ive been watching your videos on and off via recommend, but this one truly set me into joining the memberships while I can ^-^ i love seeing people dive into lore, and I can see in your videos how much you care about it!
Thank you! Yep, definitely so fun to take a moment to look a little closer at these moments from the games!
Wait, if AI sada went back into the past, does this mean we get to see her remains left in rocks since she went to the past
Possibly, assuming that she even died. I imagine that they can last a lot longer than a human lifespan.
I did read a fanfic where Arven found AI Sada's broken down shell and set about recruiting everyone possible to repair her. It was really good and kept me in suspense if it would even work right up to the end.
I understood the ai professor differently 🤔. I understood that the ai was made to run the time machine; as in it was part of it. The professor copied their mind and after their death the ai (which has a copy of the professors mind) realized how dangerous it all was. The Ai was running off the professors knowledge until the security system activated which was a simple goal(protect time machine) related ai behavior written by the original professor before they saw how dangerous it all was...but that's just how I interpreted it 😅
@@OniBoiXD we know the AI had differed with the professor during their lifetime because they mention the professor's flippant response to that objection
Arven is so traumatized. Nearly cried for him every time he spoke. He needs a hug.
This game had me fucking screaming at 3AM. The flurry of emotions was insane. Absolutely did *not* see any of this shit coming.
The ending for this story made me cry and I don’t remember the last time a Pokémon game made me do that.
It’s by far my favorite story in any Pokémon game period.
Professor Turo is probably my favorite final boss since N and Ghetsis.
They went from hyped memed professor to EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!
10/10 best professors in Pkmn history
I legit started crying when AI Sada tried to get the group to run away❤😢
Think about the opening scene once more, we never see the professor's human body or meet them for real because they're dead, right?
Miraidon and Koraidon are flying away from Area Zero during the time, having recently gone weak and collapse onto the beach after escaping the Crater.
Escaping the Crater.
From the other Miraidon/Koraidon.
I like to think that means that as we begin the game, the Professor died as soon as the game started.
The legendary is fleeing as it losses the battle against its counterpart.. the professors died a long time and it wasnt stated if the Mirai and Korai were responsible since the diary just said a pokemon started to rampage.
@@aristotleisarocker Incorrect.
"The professor died protecting your Miraidon."
As well as the part where it is stated "He failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon." Therefore, he died due to the consequences of not being able to make a judgement on the much more viscious Miraidon, dying whilst protecting the Story Miraidon.
@@cheesecakes4517 then that means it was a long time and since the other legendary is savage it bullies out our mirai, korai out of area zero. cause if that just happened just as we started we could have atleast see or even the ai would said where turo/sada body lies..
@@aristotleisarocker Why would it tell us that? Furthermore, why would there be a reason to? The body can easily be crystallized over eithin a few moments given how Terastal Crystals work, and to put more statements forth;
"Then that means it was a long time ago."
It was, the beginning of the game WAS a long time ago. The game makes it very clear that our journey is arduous and long. Considering the frames, I'd say months worth of time.
That is /more than enough/ to be considered long.
Arven even says his contact suddenly stops over time, and since his adventure begins right when we have plans to go on our pathway to uva/naranja, he could have JUST lost contact, considering once more there is a huge time-gap between your arrival and the treasure hunt.
@@cheesecakes4517 It never said "he failed to accurately judge the other Miraidon", it just says he failed to judge "the Pokémon" and that "the Pokémon wasn't to be blamed." It was deliberately kept vague as to what attacked your ride legendary.
I’ve never really cared for Pokémon plots before this and PLA. I’m definitely glad I avoided spoilers for Area Zero. The buildup to the reveal was so well done and I definitely wasn’t expecting the professor to have been killed by one of the Paradox pokemon. And the AI being forced to stop you from shutting down the Time Machine made a really cool fight.
I can’t tell you how bad I felt for Arven once he realized his only parent was dead and that he never really had a chance to have a parental relationship with them. And that his only family was Mabosstiff. The fact a Pokémon story made me feel something is something I never thought I would say. (Not counting the Mystery Dungeon games. Those have really good plots as well.) While SCVI are extremely glitchy games, the story they tell makes up for it for me. I do hope the DLC helps explain the events that led up to the creation of the Time Machine and what the Disk Pokemon is and how the professors became so intrigued with time travel that they were willing to risk Paldea’s safety and their own lives.