If the MotoAmerica teams who run the RS660 (same class as the R7) truly keep several engines with them for backup, it's a testament how Aprilia needs to make sure the metallurgy improves, instead of stuffing rods through the side of their engines. I don't ever see Suzuki putting out a product that sends rods through the sides of blocks. Ever.
Also, when Suzuki beat Ducati in MotoGP they only had 4 bikes to run, and Ducati had an entire garage full. Suzuki doesn't even question if their bike is gonna break, because we all know it won't. Bomb proof. I've seen many GSXRs with well over 60k running like new when the ZX, Ducati and many others are falling apart.
@@jordanjoestar8839 I bought mine for exactly that reason! That and I always wanted one! 2016 GSX-S1000 I’m to old for the R model I like the S better now I can ride it all day and it still has liter bike power and handling!
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it came as a big surprise to me since i expected an 8S like GSXR but the higher handlebars makes it really appealing - its on my list for 2024 now
It would make a good light sport tourer if it had cruise control and adaptive for luggage. I also kicked my MT07 to the curb for a ZX4RR. I'm not rally a fan for the sound of parallel twins except for retro's. The music of the in line 4's just adds to my ride now.
I'm currently on a FZ07 for a few years now. I've been debating adding another bike to the stable. I too am interested in the ZX4RR,and am curious why you chose it of the 6R?
My inseam is around 27" and I have owned a Triumph Street Triple before. I never used all the power in it as long as I had it. I had it for 5 years. The ZX6R just had more power then I would ever us and It is too tall for me. I love the looks of the all black ZX6R and actually thought of buying one. I sat on it and took pictures. It would probably get me into a lot of trouble. The ZX4RR is perfect for me and what I want it for. Back country roads with a lot of curves. I'll never go to a track. @@nclements79
By the videos of it being tested on track, seems like a winner so far even without suspension hardware changes. Certainly the RS660 would outgun it at max RPM but with a little tuning help this bike gains like 10 easy horsepower and about just as much torque (typically unheard of). If it has some power advantage, the extra weight compared to the R7 and RS660 will level the playing field my guess. Will be interesting to see it out battling with the others. I have to look into the MotoAmerica rules to see what mods are allowed, but last I was in there, the impression is quite a lot can be adjusted and changed for racing teams.
@@chiefyy710 Sweet! Definitely gonna order one. I owned 6 different motorcycles and I never had a windshield so I’m really curious about trying one out and seeing how much it helps on longer rides.
Integrated lights from a distance have no distinguished obvious signaling to other motorists. Tap the bake light, hit a signal, do a combo of each, it's all glaring blobs of light barely inches from each other, blending colors. Consider too that a lot of people with imperfect bad vision use the roadway who claim they don't see motorcyclists after they plow into them, cut across their right of way, turn across their lane, whatever. The whole idea of having lights is to show clear intention to other motorists, not to have a lighted casino exhibition piece. Legally, there's supposed to be a certain distance spacing between signals, legally there's supposed to be a minimum size of visible light that illuminates the instant a signal lights up. Legally there's a required signal blinking rate. People fancy ripping off OEM lights, and I get it, they are often hideous and ugly and merely bureaucratic compliance pieces. But the replacements also are often far worse by way of making a rider's life actually safe on a road way, telling other motorists what is intended. Companies design the showpieces and have to write fineprint to be able to sell the stuff legally and not be sued. And riders buy the stuff knowing it isn't legal (written on the product page and packaging) and ride it on public roadways ANYWAY. Aren't we all just the most interesting bunch. It's like the fun-havers removing their mirrors so they can get an extra 3 mph faster than their buddy roll racing down the interstate at 197 mph.
@@exothermal.sprocket You make some interesting points, a lot of which are true. But I have an issue with the fender on this bike in particular. I live in NYC and ride my bike mostly on local streets. Drivers tend to tail gate a lot, which is unfortunate but is the reality of it. This fender is set much lower and further behind the frame, which is an advantage on the highway, when vehicles are usually a car length or two away. But in my scenario, I’m nearly rear ended on a daily bases because they can’t tell that I’m braking. The brake light isn’t in their view, especially if they’re in an elevated vehicle like an SUV. I’ve had to resort to filtering as much as possible (which is illegal in New York) and putting myself at greater risk of an accident, just to decrease the chances of being rear ended for someone not giving enough distance between me and their vehicle… It’s unfortunate, but these are the things some people have to resort to for their safety. And, like I mentioned before, it makes the bike look way cooler. 😎
@@MrDito1209 Suzuki could have done a better job with the tail light, and still complied with the fender reaching the rear of the tire (compliance requirements). Thankfully there are better solutions so far. Another brand I've found is Evotech Performance. I still recommend keeping your signals on stalks, even if you change those to LED. It helps to see which side is lit up relative to the position of the brake/tail light. Also make sure the signal relay understands how to run LED signal lights, rather than flashing a thousand times per minute. There's a product for the back of a rider's helmet that acts like a high mount brake light. Not for everyone, and not for every helmet but it's an idea. I had an FZ1 years ago where I installed a module and LED tail, which strobed a few quick bursts before staying steady-on. That was attention grabbing and very bright. I don't think it was legal due to the mimicking of a patrol car flash rate, but I highly doubt any policeman would have complained because it was red in color and better than OEM. I still kept the standard signal stalks.
@@exothermal.sprocket you drive many good points, and I like how you packaged up the post in us riders being an interesting bunch. I agree with all you have said but i do want to clarify our stance on the subject. We cannot change what people want, or what they will end up opting for. We also believe that the choice should be made by the customer because choice is freedom. I have seen bikes built for shows only, and get trailered to and from shows. The owners of those definitely go for style and compromise visibility. Then there are those who use aftermarket equipment on the roads and take responsibility for the modifications on themselves. Those people should be focusing on visibility in my opinion. So our approach to being fair to multitude of demographics is to create a modular system capable of being customized to many needs. We offer integrated tail lights, external signal lamps, and combination lamps capable of signal/run/brake function (like our Quadrix-D). We round out the offerings with harnesses that connect everything plug-and-play style, Y-splitter harnesses that enable the use of integrated tail lights in conjunction with external signal or combo lamps, and physical mounting systems that take care of attaching the lamps to the bike. This way there are many combinations of setup that are achievable. Some examples are as follows: one of our tail lights with it's signals connected in parallel with external signal/combo lamps, one of our tail lights used as running/brake only with external signal or combo lamps in parallel, OE tail light with our signal or combo lamps replacing the OE signal lamps, any combo of OE signal lamps with pur tail light, and so on. Our product line gives the customer flexibility to choose and configure the system to their desire. The responsibility of choosing what is right and proper also rests with the customer, but that is given for any freedom that we still have.
Thank you for doing this review! I have a 2023 8S with a little over 4,000 miles on it so far that I purchased last June. I am a middle aged rider and for my purposes, the powerplant has been perfect for my real world riding. I have often told my dad (80 and still riding!) that the 8S was a 10/10 for my purposes with the engine/transmission/usability and a 7/10 on looks. It is fine looking at some angles - but not my favorite at others. I typically forget any issues with looks though when I twist the throttle. :-) For my purposes it is wonderful in A mode with a little traction control. 6 months in and 4,100 miles later I still love it and it puts a grin on my face. Here is my question..... I'm super interested in the 8R because it looks much better to my eye. I just wanted to confirm what you said about the clip-ons. They don't change the ride angle significantly? I have never seen one in person but if the riding position is the same I may be huntiing an 8R to replace my 8S. For my longer rides or multi-day rides, comfort is important to me and the 8S is fine. Thoughts? Thanks again!
They are such a subtle drop from the 8S, but i ended up choosing the 8S over the 8R as im not getting any younger and that slight increase in bending over was enough to notice after 15 minutes.
Suzuki has chosen a design language for the GSX bikes, it's pretty good looking. This 8R has nice curves and smooth surfaces. I'm frankly tired of the anime robot insect look by now and glad to see a more conservative design coming out. It'll age much better.
You guys should develop lower yolk mounted clips ons, same mount as the stock ones but lower with adjustments. I prefer to be a little more leaned forward, the Daytona 660 interests me as it’s more leaned forward then this and a slightly more leaned forward then the CBR650R.
Between M4, Arrow, and Akrapovic, it's 7 to 7.4 lb weight savings with full systems. Maybe SC Project or Graves or someone else will make a full Ti system.
This just looks like a ninja 650 with more displacement. The riding style is straight up? No where close to the R7 which had some what r6 abrasive position? Please explain?
I am a fan of Suzuki but I felt, as you did, that they were asleep in the R&D department. This bike looks really appealing to me. I have been riding street bikes for about 40 years and have had over a dozen different bikes over the years. Cruisers are not my thing. This bike may be the answer. I might trade my MT07 in on one.
@@non-wx8qm no, that was a joke. At the time this was filmed, it was the only prototype tail light in existence and usually people ask to buy them because they want “the first one”. Our tail light is $147.99 and available on our website.
We currently have an aftermarket set-up on it with aftermarket clip-ons. We have a loose plan of doing a video showcasing the front assembly and the nuances of what we've done.
As an R7 owner I can appreciate the dash and the features, especially for only $200 more. However I like the aggressive feel, seating position, and looks of the R7 wayyyy better. If I really wanted to be comfortable than I probably would’ve bought an MT07 😂
Coming from the GSXR750 back in the day, I don't get it. Even way back in the 80s the R750 produced 120hp with an exhaust and revved 14k and like 20kg weight diff. A bike with 8R performance and handlebar position would have been a touring bike. Earning the R badge used to mean something and meant the bike was vastly different, it wasn't for everyone.
Those products will be available on our website later this year. You can view our current product offerings at the link below including our current fender eliminator and rear light kit. -Mark tstindustries.com/suzuki-gsx-8r-2024/
I'm holding back on major mods on my 8S waiting to see if Suzuki busts out a version of this like the SV1000 GT. If not there are some bags from SW Motech, Suzuki, and problaze that all look like the exact same bag.
We had a tiny man riding a tiny bike beside me. Just kidding, our media team did a great job trying to make me look good and getting those angles along with the help of a couple gopros and an Insta360.
Hold on... is that white f150 your camera car or do you use two 360 X3's? This video is so seamless its insane. How do you do it? I'm in the Tampa area... might have to make a ride north on the SDR... hmm
That same tail light is also used on gsxr600 and 750 since 2011. On this bike they mounted it in the fender so it's extra in-your-face. We had to do something with that.
I am thinking that I would love this bike. However, I want to test ride it first and here in the Virginia Beach area none of the dealers offer test rides. I think Suzuki should just donate a bike for us to try out in this area if they want to sell to this area.
I test ride one today. I was very skeptical of twins (my first bike was a 750 2 stroke, 😂). But this bike was a ton of fun! Exceeded all expectations. No more 10k rpms and laying over a tank! It’s not a super sport so stop trying to compare it to one.
Since most controls get replaced for racing purposes, there is no need to make the bike supersport like from the factory. The appeal then reaches a broader demographic, and lowers the cost of the bike. The minority that will be converting to track use will get clipons low on there, bust out the bodywork to accommodata that, and get the rearset positions higher and more back. For the majority of customers this bike offers a really nice middle of the road balance with race bike styling. -BR
@@TSTindustries I just bought my 8R I wish you guys would do a video on an install of full exhaust and how to remove the ECU, in which we can ship the ecu to you guys to tune??In your opinion is the full exhaust and tune wake the bike up any?
@@MotoFlows we have the video of ecu removal on the 8S, which is exactly the same process on the 8R. The bike wakes up really nicely with exhaust and tune. Your butt dyno will notice it big time. Here is the link to the ecu removal ua-cam.com/video/W5SSPrZY50M/v-deo.htmlsi=C-bttcw6Q8SfLYM3 -BR
That's one of the most common things about motorcycles under 12-14 grand. Suspension just typically isn't where all the money is going to go. What I do look for, however, is that the bones are good enough to swap a set of fork cartridges into, and a good 3-way shock, both with springs for my body weight.
@@ganuvien R7 suspension is not garbage, and neither is it remotely the same as the MT-07. It's not going to be high end Ohlins, but it's not MT-like either.
Other than the shocks and fairings, that bike is identical to the 8s. I'm wondering if I can just order the fairing kit to help cut the wind. The interstate is hell on wind at 70 after a while, plus the wind blowing you side to side.
You would need the front upper fairing mount in the least to make that work. The headlight is also different so I think the "swap" might end up costing you a several hundred or more.
Very cool. First 8R first ride review that's appearerd in my feed. Congrats and well done. What is the exhaust? Is it a full system or a slip on? Is a slip on even possible with the GSX 8 platform??
It depends what sort of parts you are after. No one brand makes all the different types of aftermarket parts that people typically like to install. Our company, TST Industries has a rapidly growing catalog of parts for the S and R versions of this bike. We offer many types of components and services; from cosmetic upgrades, to performance enhancements, and even race technology. Perhaps you can follow the link in the description of this video and take a look at what we currently offer. I bet you will find some interesting upgrades for your ride. -BR
@@exothermal.sprocket we typically use Andreani for fork cartridges. They are in the works and should be available soon. A nice Nitron shock is already available.
@@exothermal.sprocket we have been using Andreani for many years in our race bike builds. We actually are a dealer of their parts and we will attest to their quality and performance. -BR
Was looking to upgrade from my XSR 125, and fell in love with the CBR500R, seemed like the prefect bike for me. Until this one came along. At almost 50, speed no longer being a decisive factor, I really should stick to the CBR. But hot damn, that torque! Gonna be a tough choice but already leaning towards the GSX8R as my new found love.
Hey Mark, great looking bike by Suzuki! Did I hear you say $7500 dollars for the tail light unit? 😂😂😉 When is Legend Bart gonna get his hands dirty on this bad boy?😎 Cheers 👌
Even if it comes to the USA we currently aren't inclined to buy one. We will wait until someone in our circle gets one and then we will do our r&d and videos.
Those are the most handle bar clip-ons I have ever seen lol, might as well not even call it a clip-on. I think it looks solid just wish they had made it a little more sporty like the R7 and RS660, it almost doesnt justify its existence being so similar to the GSX8S
I see an Akra pipe on your 8R. Depending on where you look online, the 8R isn’t listed as an application much as of yet in some exhaust brands. Am I correct that the 8S and 8R are identical in pipe routing and the belly pan is not an obstruction? In other words, you can buy an 8S exhaust for an 8R? I have a Yellow 8R arriving in April. I agree it’s been a while since Suzuki came out with something even mildly different and interesting. I owned a Suzuki TL1000R for almost 20 years. Your 8R sounds just like it. That’s a big plus! I’m a little older now so the less extreme ergos of the 8R will keep my body happy. Tell us more about what you have coming for the engine. Take my money!😊
Yes the Akra for the 8S will fit the 8R with no issues on clearance or mounting! We're also testing 3 others exhausts to verify fitment but will be stocking the Akrapovic options on our website.
We get the yellow model as well in addition to this one and a blue model. My personal favorite is the yellow but we completely get that looks are subjective.
I have an sv but unfortunately I’m not digging this you look awkward riding it? I’m disappointed not with TST version but the look of the bike out on the road maybe it’s the clip ons? Good review though. It may grow on me in a way it reminds me of an 80s Katana
Considering this is a P-Twin and not an inline 4, the power delivery is very different. However, the torque on this is incredible and paired with the electronic throttle, it’s super smooth.
@@TSTindustries I know the tq band might be better at low RPMs I saw it gain speed well lol My 750 is modded to the hilt minus a stretch and spray. Moore Mafia tuned L5
Florida is WAYYYY too flat haha. But the suspension is very similar to the 8S. Feels solid and planted but it can be better. I'm interested in riding both the 8S and 8R back to back and seeing if the "different suspension" of the 8R is any better.
Hopefully the forks aren't too oddball in terms of internal dimensions, as I'm sure there will be suspension factories whipping out a set of cartridges in no time.
Honestly it seems like a great bike and tuners are already getting close to 90hp/60ish TQ (2 Wheel Dynoworks) out of these bikes. I'd almost say it's like a Japanese Tuono with the way it looks but better reliability I bet. Definitely looking forward to this bike getting some aftermarket love because it just might be a perfect daily rider.
Wonder what Honda is thinking... The new Hornet isn’t in the USA yet. Around 95 horsepower rivals Aprilia, and could undercut the Aprilia in price as well. I suspect the emissions requirements here are holding them back. I remember when Europe complained about emissions. Now it’s our turn...
looking for my first bike. this one is checking all the boxes
If the MotoAmerica teams who run the RS660 (same class as the R7) truly keep several engines with them for backup, it's a testament how Aprilia needs to make sure the metallurgy improves, instead of stuffing rods through the side of their engines.
I don't ever see Suzuki putting out a product that sends rods through the sides of blocks. Ever.
Bingo!
Also, when Suzuki beat Ducati in MotoGP they only had 4 bikes to run, and Ducati had an entire garage full.
Suzuki doesn't even question if their bike is gonna break, because we all know it won't. Bomb proof. I've seen many GSXRs with well over 60k running like new when the ZX, Ducati and many others are falling apart.
@@jordanjoestar8839 I bought mine for exactly that reason! That and I always wanted one! 2016 GSX-S1000 I’m to old for the R model I like the S better now I can ride it all day and it still has liter bike power and handling!
it came as a big surprise to me since i expected an 8S like GSXR but the higher handlebars makes it really appealing - its on my list for 2024 now
It would make a good light sport tourer if it had cruise control and adaptive for luggage. I also kicked my MT07 to the curb for a ZX4RR. I'm not rally a fan for the sound of parallel twins except for retro's. The music of the in line 4's just adds to my ride now.
U traded ur beginer bike for another weak baby beginer girls bike 400cc lmao 70hp 🤣😂🤡🌈
Fully agree! I have z650rs and getting zx4r in spring (already paid). Parellel twin "superbikes" are boring.
I'm currently on a FZ07 for a few years now. I've been debating adding another bike to the stable. I too am interested in the ZX4RR,and am curious why you chose it of the 6R?
My inseam is around 27" and I have owned a Triumph Street Triple before. I never used all the power in it as long as I had it. I had it for 5 years. The ZX6R just had more power then I would ever us and It is too tall for me. I love the looks of the all black ZX6R and actually thought of buying one. I sat on it and took pictures. It would probably get me into a lot of trouble. The ZX4RR is perfect for me and what I want it for. Back country roads with a lot of curves. I'll never go to a track. @@nclements79
Well the length of my legs, cost of insurance, and gas. I just didn't need to be doing over 140 mph that much.@@nclements79
Can’t wait to see how this is gonna stack up in the twins cup class.
Us either!
By the videos of it being tested on track, seems like a winner so far even without suspension hardware changes. Certainly the RS660 would outgun it at max RPM but with a little tuning help this bike gains like 10 easy horsepower and about just as much torque (typically unheard of). If it has some power advantage, the extra weight compared to the R7 and RS660 will level the playing field my guess. Will be interesting to see it out battling with the others. I have to look into the MotoAmerica rules to see what mods are allowed, but last I was in there, the impression is quite a lot can be adjusted and changed for racing teams.
Just put my deposit down for a black 8S, and i cannot wait to ride it, youve done a great job hyping me 😂
I think you will likel it very much.
8s owner and installed the puig touring windshield today... love the bike!
That a good looking windshield, might pick myself up one too. Did it make a big difference?
@@HifeMan only ridden for about 10 min since I installed it but it seemed very nice so far. And I’m 6’5 so it’s gotta deflect high
I actually love the design of Puig's windhsield. I installed the touring on my 800DE and I'm loving it !
@@chiefyy710 Sweet! Definitely gonna order one. I owned 6 different motorcycles and I never had a windshield so I’m really curious about trying one out and seeing how much it helps on longer rides.
I'm a Suzuki 8R owner loving it!!
I'm hoping to buy an 8r next spring.
Do it!
That shot angle at 7:25 is so good 👌🏽
Our media team did a great job on this one.
Bikes with full fairings, in cross wind conditions will always be pushed more than a naked bike as the fairings act a bit like a sail.
I need that integrated tail light! It makes the 8S/8R look so much better!
Later this year!
Integrated lights from a distance have no distinguished obvious signaling to other motorists. Tap the bake light, hit a signal, do a combo of each, it's all glaring blobs of light barely inches from each other, blending colors. Consider too that a lot of people with imperfect bad vision use the roadway who claim they don't see motorcyclists after they plow into them, cut across their right of way, turn across their lane, whatever. The whole idea of having lights is to show clear intention to other motorists, not to have a lighted casino exhibition piece. Legally, there's supposed to be a certain distance spacing between signals, legally there's supposed to be a minimum size of visible light that illuminates the instant a signal lights up. Legally there's a required signal blinking rate. People fancy ripping off OEM lights, and I get it, they are often hideous and ugly and merely bureaucratic compliance pieces. But the replacements also are often far worse by way of making a rider's life actually safe on a road way, telling other motorists what is intended. Companies design the showpieces and have to write fineprint to be able to sell the stuff legally and not be sued. And riders buy the stuff knowing it isn't legal (written on the product page and packaging) and ride it on public roadways ANYWAY.
Aren't we all just the most interesting bunch. It's like the fun-havers removing their mirrors so they can get an extra 3 mph faster than their buddy roll racing down the interstate at 197 mph.
@@exothermal.sprocket You make some interesting points, a lot of which are true. But I have an issue with the fender on this bike in particular. I live in NYC and ride my bike mostly on local streets. Drivers tend to tail gate a lot, which is unfortunate but is the reality of it. This fender is set much lower and further behind the frame, which is an advantage on the highway, when vehicles are usually a car length or two away. But in my scenario, I’m nearly rear ended on a daily bases because they can’t tell that I’m braking. The brake light isn’t in their view, especially if they’re in an elevated vehicle like an SUV. I’ve had to resort to filtering as much as possible (which is illegal in New York) and putting myself at greater risk of an accident, just to decrease the chances of being rear ended for someone not giving enough distance between me and their vehicle… It’s unfortunate, but these are the things some people have to resort to for their safety. And, like I mentioned before, it makes the bike look way cooler. 😎
@@MrDito1209 Suzuki could have done a better job with the tail light, and still complied with the fender reaching the rear of the tire (compliance requirements). Thankfully there are better solutions so far. Another brand I've found is Evotech Performance. I still recommend keeping your signals on stalks, even if you change those to LED. It helps to see which side is lit up relative to the position of the brake/tail light. Also make sure the signal relay understands how to run LED signal lights, rather than flashing a thousand times per minute.
There's a product for the back of a rider's helmet that acts like a high mount brake light. Not for everyone, and not for every helmet but it's an idea.
I had an FZ1 years ago where I installed a module and LED tail, which strobed a few quick bursts before staying steady-on. That was attention grabbing and very bright. I don't think it was legal due to the mimicking of a patrol car flash rate, but I highly doubt any policeman would have complained because it was red in color and better than OEM. I still kept the standard signal stalks.
@@exothermal.sprocket you drive many good points, and I like how you packaged up the post in us riders being an interesting bunch. I agree with all you have said but i do want to clarify our stance on the subject. We cannot change what people want, or what they will end up opting for. We also believe that the choice should be made by the customer because choice is freedom. I have seen bikes built for shows only, and get trailered to and from shows. The owners of those definitely go for style and compromise visibility. Then there are those who use aftermarket equipment on the roads and take responsibility for the modifications on themselves. Those people should be focusing on visibility in my opinion. So our approach to being fair to multitude of demographics is to create a modular system capable of being customized to many needs. We offer integrated tail lights, external signal lamps, and combination lamps capable of signal/run/brake function (like our Quadrix-D). We round out the offerings with harnesses that connect everything plug-and-play style, Y-splitter harnesses that enable the use of integrated tail lights in conjunction with external signal or combo lamps, and physical mounting systems that take care of attaching the lamps to the bike. This way there are many combinations of setup that are achievable. Some examples are as follows: one of our tail lights with it's signals connected in parallel with external signal/combo lamps, one of our tail lights used as running/brake only with external signal or combo lamps in parallel, OE tail light with our signal or combo lamps replacing the OE signal lamps, any combo of OE signal lamps with pur tail light, and so on. Our product line gives the customer flexibility to choose and configure the system to their desire. The responsibility of choosing what is right and proper also rests with the customer, but that is given for any freedom that we still have.
I loooooove seeing my guy Mark on the new 8R. That's a winning combination if you ask me!! Well done Sir.
Thanks for the love, Steve! Hoping to see you at the track soon!
I appreciate that he mention Benelli in the store. I respect every motorcycle brand out there. Gsx 8r is such a beautiful bike
Thank you for doing this review! I have a 2023 8S with a little over 4,000 miles on it so far that I purchased last June. I am a middle aged rider and for my purposes, the powerplant has been perfect for my real world riding. I have often told my dad (80 and still riding!) that the 8S was a 10/10 for my purposes with the engine/transmission/usability and a 7/10 on looks. It is fine looking at some angles - but not my favorite at others. I typically forget any issues with looks though when I twist the throttle. :-) For my purposes it is wonderful in A mode with a little traction control. 6 months in and 4,100 miles later I still love it and it puts a grin on my face. Here is my question..... I'm super interested in the 8R because it looks much better to my eye. I just wanted to confirm what you said about the clip-ons. They don't change the ride angle significantly? I have never seen one in person but if the riding position is the same I may be huntiing an 8R to replace my 8S. For my longer rides or multi-day rides, comfort is important to me and the 8S is fine. Thoughts? Thanks again!
I'm waiting for the s8 GT!
Love your products, guys. Cheers from Bulgaria!
Thanks for the love!
Just purchased an 8R. Same color.
Picking mine up next weekend, silver & red. First motorbike after 15 years off two wheels. South Wales UK.
Great to hear! We can't wait to hear your thoughts on this ride. -TST
those clipons are practically handlebars
Yep!
They are such a subtle drop from the 8S, but i ended up choosing the 8S over the 8R as im not getting any younger and that slight increase in bending over was enough to notice after 15 minutes.
I just got my 2024 R8 today and loving it!!!
Front of this bike looks so mean, I dig it. Love everything about these and definitely would consider it if I was replacing my Ninja 650.
Do it!
I have a Gen 3 Hayabusa and I immediately noticed how it looks from the front somewhat like a baby Gen 3 'Busa with an aftermarket headlight. 😁
Suzuki has chosen a design language for the GSX bikes, it's pretty good looking. This 8R has nice curves and smooth surfaces. I'm frankly tired of the anime robot insect look by now and glad to see a more conservative design coming out. It'll age much better.
@@exothermal.sprocket I'm with you on this one.
-BR
Testing it in a road with curves would be interesting.. there's not much to test going straight for half an hour
Yeah, but we're in Florida so no real "curves" in our area without riding over an hour away.
looking at this and the new Daytona 660 hmmm good to have choices
The market is always in a great place when multiple options are available!
Uh.... you know a speed triple 765r is a much better motorcycle for 500$ more right ?.... right ?
@@ellwoodwolf Uh.... you know a Speed Triple is 1160cc right? .... right?
🔥🔥🔥🔥 that bike looks great on the road
Thanks for the view and the love!
One of the best looking middle weights, Bravo Suzuki !!
True
Still waiting for a proper second ride review... on some twisties..i have alot of questions left unanswered.
Yeah..... we don't have those in Florida haha. But we will absolutely be taking this thing to the track sometime this year!
You guys should develop lower yolk mounted clips ons, same mount as the stock ones but lower with adjustments. I prefer to be a little more leaned forward, the Daytona 660 interests me as it’s more leaned forward then this and a slightly more leaned forward then the CBR650R.
We're toying with a few different ideas.
Question.. seeing that you have a akra exhaust on, were you able to weigh the stock exhaust when you removed it? If so what was the difference?
There's about a 7 lb difference!
@@TSTindustries thank you for answering!
Between M4, Arrow, and Akrapovic, it's 7 to 7.4 lb weight savings with full systems. Maybe SC Project or Graves or someone else will make a full Ti system.
I would buy it if it had true supersport clip ons and adjustable rear suspension. Hopefully the aftermarket comes out to fix this.
This just looks like a ninja 650 with more displacement. The riding style is straight up? No where close to the R7 which had some what r6 abrasive position? Please explain?
More displacement yet only +3 on the top speed? Ninja 650 says 131 top speed and I believe he said GSX8R was 134. 🤷🏻♂️
I am a fan of Suzuki but I felt, as you did, that they were asleep in the R&D department. This bike looks really appealing to me. I have been riding street bikes for about 40 years and have had over a dozen different bikes over the years. Cruisers are not my thing. This bike may be the answer. I might trade my MT07 in on one.
Looks fabulous without the factory tail piece.
We got that under control 😉
@@TSTindustries
I just bought an 8R yesterday and your rear end kit is absolutelythe first thing that happens to her when I get it home.
How much did the guy say was the tail tidy?
Pardon me....what is your height? I did not hear that mentioned in video.
5'7"
@@TSTindustries Thx for response. So it's clearly not for my 6'4" because of the shape of the tank. At least their VStrom 800DE is superb for me.
12:50 The tail light is $7,500?
@@non-wx8qm no, that was a joke. At the time this was filmed, it was the only prototype tail light in existence and usually people ask to buy them because they want “the first one”. Our tail light is $147.99 and available on our website.
Thank you for the clarifying. I'm in fact looking at GSX 8Rs today. A tail tidy would be awesome.
Question, with your stock tail fender removed the way your Plate being placed at the back is it legal in general? In the states that is.
You would have to check your local laws as they change from state to state and sometimes even city to city. - Mark
Can the clip ons be raised so your not leant forward as much ?
Are you guys gonna prepare some more sporty handle bars or clipons for 8R?? Just to get the position more sporty! It would be really awesome!!!
We currently have an aftermarket set-up on it with aftermarket clip-ons. We have a loose plan of doing a video showcasing the front assembly and the nuances of what we've done.
how do you think this bike would fit with a shorter rider?
I'm short too. Bike has 31.9 inch seat height so I can't ride it.
As an R7 owner I can appreciate the dash and the features, especially for only $200 more. However I like the aggressive feel, seating position, and looks of the R7 wayyyy better. If I really wanted to be comfortable than I probably would’ve bought an MT07 😂
Coming from the GSXR750 back in the day, I don't get it.
Even way back in the 80s the R750 produced 120hp with an exhaust and revved 14k and like 20kg weight diff.
A bike with 8R performance and handlebar position would have been a touring bike.
Earning the R badge used to mean something and meant the bike was vastly different, it wasn't for everyone.
From day one of it being announced i argued they should have named it 8f not 8r and watching this review has confirmed it for me.
Where can I find that tail light and the part for the plates? Please and thank you
Those products will be available on our website later this year. You can view our current product offerings at the link below including our current fender eliminator and rear light kit. -Mark
tstindustries.com/suzuki-gsx-8r-2024/
Getting mines this morning I can't wait. Been up all night.😂😂😂
Please share the link for the tail tidy
That product can be found on our website. TSTindustries.com
Great review.
Do you think, it is possible to make this bike into sports tourer?
I'm holding back on major mods on my 8S waiting to see if Suzuki busts out a version of this like the SV1000 GT. If not there are some bags from SW Motech, Suzuki, and problaze that all look like the exact same bag.
Sweet! FL and CA seem to get the first new Suzuki's.
Surprisingly it does seem that way.
And Texas, Ray Bowden has his review out
Any ideas what the 2025 colors will be? Hoping for white and red
@@Theguy702 unfortunately we do not have that information.
I just came across your video. Would this be a good beginner bike
@@mikeanderson9613 I would say yes as long as you’re confident in your skill and excited to learn and become a better rider.
Does it have rear brake lights or turn signals with the fender taken off??
It does! We offer our Fender Eliminator with an external signal set-up or you can go with our Integrated Tail Light which will be available very soon.
Did you ryde it in the A mode ...for sport bike
Yes, I rode it in all 3 modes with A mode being the most "aggressive". It's a VERY fun bike and I think you will love it!
How the hell are you getting these camera angles
We had a tiny man riding a tiny bike beside me. Just kidding, our media team did a great job trying to make me look good and getting those angles along with the help of a couple gopros and an Insta360.
You mount a lightweight selfie stick to the bike and put a Insta360 on the end of it, do some post-editing and voila.
Hold on... is that white f150 your camera car or do you use two 360 X3's? This video is so seamless its insane. How do you do it? I'm in the Tampa area... might have to make a ride north on the SDR... hmm
This bike is going to be great
Agreed!
Thanks for the early review, very few available at the moment, cleared up a lot of questions.
Very thorough video. Would you say there absolutely no option to install aftermarket clipons? Especially under the triple clamp?
Thank you tst for getting rid of the ugly factory sv650 tailight contraption
That same tail light is also used on gsxr600 and 750 since 2011. On this bike they mounted it in the fender so it's extra in-your-face. We had to do something with that.
The front end, in particular looks much better than the GSX 8S.
I am thinking that I would love this bike. However, I want to test ride it first and here in the Virginia Beach area none of the dealers offer test rides. I think Suzuki should just donate a bike for us to try out in this area if they want to sell to this area.
Can you tell me what fender eliminator did you install and where can I find it? Thank you
It’s ours! You can find it on our website and we have a step-by-step installation video on our website and our UA-cam channel.
@@TSTindustriesHow much is it?
@@non-wx8qm we have a few options available so it’s best to check our website out and build out the kit you’d like for all pricing information.
Best all a rounder middleweight on the market right now or so it seems . Suzuki 🤘
Oh if only I waited for this bike it looks amazing in every way ill definitely be looking more into it for my next motorcycle. Great video mate
Thanks for the love and the view! -TST
I test ride one today. I was very skeptical of twins (my first bike was a 750 2 stroke, 😂). But this bike was a ton of fun! Exceeded all expectations. No more 10k rpms and laying over a tank! It’s not a super sport so stop trying to compare it to one.
Since most controls get replaced for racing purposes, there is no need to make the bike supersport like from the factory. The appeal then reaches a broader demographic, and lowers the cost of the bike. The minority that will be converting to track use will get clipons low on there, bust out the bodywork to accommodata that, and get the rearset positions higher and more back. For the majority of customers this bike offers a really nice middle of the road balance with race bike styling.
-BR
@@TSTindustries bingo! You stated the facts much better than I
trippy camera work
Thank you man for this beautiful video❤🎉
With full alprovich exhaust does it still need a tune? Could I just install the full exhaust with no tune without hurting the motor???
Anytime you’re changing your intake or exhaust components you should absolutely get a tune. -ML
@@TSTindustries I just bought my 8R I wish you guys would do a video on an install of full exhaust and how to remove the ECU, in which we can ship the ecu to you guys to tune??In your opinion is the full exhaust and tune wake the bike up any?
@@MotoFlows we have the video of ecu removal on the 8S, which is exactly the same process on the 8R. The bike wakes up really nicely with exhaust and tune. Your butt dyno will notice it big time. Here is the link to the ecu removal ua-cam.com/video/W5SSPrZY50M/v-deo.htmlsi=C-bttcw6Q8SfLYM3
-BR
I gotta say, that is a very nice looking bike. Love the TFT dash 👍
Great video. What happened to mt-03 build series!!
I think I would rather have adjustable suspension rather than the QS and ride modes. I see it needing a $1500 upgrade day 1.. love the looks.
That's one of the most common things about motorcycles under 12-14 grand. Suspension just typically isn't where all the money is going to go. What I do look for, however, is that the bones are good enough to swap a set of fork cartridges into, and a good 3-way shock, both with springs for my body weight.
Budget bikes never come with good suspension anyways, even the MT07/R7 suspension is still garbage and needs upgrading for serious riders.
@@ganuvien R7 suspension is not garbage, and neither is it remotely the same as the MT-07. It's not going to be high end Ohlins, but it's not MT-like either.
They should have more color options for all the line ups
Other than the shocks and fairings, that bike is identical to the 8s. I'm wondering if I can just order the fairing kit to help cut the wind. The interstate is hell on wind at 70 after a while, plus the wind blowing you side to side.
You would need the front upper fairing mount in the least to make that work. The headlight is also different so I think the "swap" might end up costing you a several hundred or more.
@@TSTindustries mabe they will sell a kit in the future.
Why can’t Suzuki put this dash on the gsx-s1000?
It's probably coming in a generation change.
I see styling influence from the Katana. Really neat bike, overall.
Definitely a fun and inviting bike to ride! - Mark
Us the quik shifter both up and down shifting
Was looking at getting an mt07 because I didn't care for the look of the 8s but now seeing this I may just swing to the 8r.
Go ride both and choose the bike that hits all of your checkboxes! -TST
Very cool. First 8R first ride review that's appearerd in my feed. Congrats and well done. What is the exhaust? Is it a full system or a slip on? Is a slip on even possible with the GSX 8 platform??
Stock system is all welded, the side pipe coming right out of the cow-stomach catalyst.
Where do we get aftermarket parts for this bike? Please give me idea its my first bike and i want to know what brand should i get for it.
It depends what sort of parts you are after. No one brand makes all the different types of aftermarket parts that people typically like to install. Our company, TST Industries has a rapidly growing catalog of parts for the S and R versions of this bike. We offer many types of components and services; from cosmetic upgrades, to performance enhancements, and even race technology. Perhaps you can follow the link in the description of this video and take a look at what we currently offer. I bet you will find some interesting upgrades for your ride.
-BR
@@TSTindustries Any word from K-Tech on suspension parts?
@@exothermal.sprocket we typically use Andreani for fork cartridges. They are in the works and should be available soon. A nice Nitron shock is already available.
@@TSTindustries Ah okay, I do know about the brand! Thanks for the info.
@@exothermal.sprocket we have been using Andreani for many years in our race bike builds. We actually are a dealer of their parts and we will attest to their quality and performance.
-BR
Looks comfortable.
Bonzer Vid 👏, Yamaha owner love the look of this new R from suzuki,
Thanks for the view and the feedback!
Did you say racing? So there will be some forks that aren’t trash ?????
Was looking to upgrade from my XSR 125, and fell in love with the CBR500R, seemed like the prefect bike for me.
Until this one came along.
At almost 50, speed no longer being a decisive factor, I really should stick to the CBR.
But hot damn, that torque!
Gonna be a tough choice but already leaning towards the GSX8R as my new found love.
Good stuff, well done.
Thanks for the love and the view!
How do i buy it from you?
The bike? They can be bought at Suzuki dealerships.
Fantastic looking BIKE and review-- Any Idea of the top speed of this motorcycle.? Does anyone know ?
220 km/h
Hey Mark, great looking bike by Suzuki! Did I hear you say $7500 dollars for the tail light unit? 😂😂😉
When is Legend Bart gonna get his hands dirty on this bad boy?😎
Cheers 👌
I was thinking the same thing. $7,500?
Really enjoyed this review, especially as its POV from a from aftermarket company. Loved the joke about the new tail tidy.😅
curious to see if yall getting the 24 cbr600 👀👀
Even if it comes to the USA we currently aren't inclined to buy one. We will wait until someone in our circle gets one and then we will do our r&d and videos.
What jacket is that ?
An old Alpinestars one that's in desperate need of a refresh haha!
This bike looks pretty cool. Thinking about visiting DeLand to look at it. Maybe trade in my bike.
Deland motorsport's is not in DeLand, its in Orangecity.
Unfortunately this bike has a recall. A rivet in the drive chain was not fastened properly causing possible chain breakage while riding.
Yes, they only believe less than 400 units were affected and owners should have received letters and warnings from their local dealership. -Mark
I didn't know you were in my state. I am in Apollo Beach
Yep, we’re right here in Central FL.
could this compete with cbr 659?
Those are the most handle bar clip-ons I have ever seen lol, might as well not even call it a clip-on. I think it looks solid just wish they had made it a little more sporty like the R7 and RS660, it almost doesnt justify its existence being so similar to the GSX8S
I see an Akra pipe on your 8R. Depending on where you look online, the 8R isn’t listed as an application much as of yet in some exhaust brands.
Am I correct that the 8S and 8R are identical in pipe routing and the belly pan is not an obstruction? In other words, you can buy an 8S exhaust for an 8R? I have a Yellow 8R arriving in April.
I agree it’s been a while since Suzuki came out with something even mildly different and interesting.
I owned a Suzuki TL1000R for almost 20 years. Your 8R sounds just like it. That’s a big plus! I’m a little older now so the less extreme ergos of the 8R will keep my body happy.
Tell us more about what you have coming for the engine. Take my money!😊
Yes the Akra for the 8S will fit the 8R with no issues on clearance or mounting! We're also testing 3 others exhausts to verify fitment but will be stocking the Akrapovic options on our website.
Silver looks so good. NZ gets yellow instead, which is well, yellow...
We get the yellow model as well in addition to this one and a blue model. My personal favorite is the yellow but we completely get that looks are subjective.
this thing is a beauty,,,
I have an sv but unfortunately I’m not digging this you look awkward riding it? I’m disappointed not with TST version but the look of the bike out on the road maybe it’s the clip ons? Good review though. It may grow on me in a way it reminds me of an 80s Katana
Does it pull like my 750?
Considering this is a P-Twin and not an inline 4, the power delivery is very different. However, the torque on this is incredible and paired with the electronic throttle, it’s super smooth.
@@TSTindustries I know the tq band might be better at low RPMs I saw it gain speed well lol My 750 is modded to the hilt minus a stretch and spray. Moore Mafia tuned L5
Not much chat on the suspension or did I miss it? Or is Florida too flat 😅
Florida is WAYYYY too flat haha. But the suspension is very similar to the 8S. Feels solid and planted but it can be better. I'm interested in riding both the 8S and 8R back to back and seeing if the "different suspension" of the 8R is any better.
@@TSTindustries The product release video Suzuki UK did claimed 30% stiffer IIRC
Hopefully the forks aren't too oddball in terms of internal dimensions, as I'm sure there will be suspension factories whipping out a set of cartridges in no time.
Andreani is working on a set and we will be offering it on our website once they are available!@@exothermal.sprocket
@@TSTindustries Very nice!
I'm sure Ohlins will have NIX set too, within a year.
Honestly it seems like a great bike and tuners are already getting close to 90hp/60ish TQ (2 Wheel Dynoworks) out of these bikes. I'd almost say it's like a Japanese Tuono with the way it looks but better reliability I bet. Definitely looking forward to this bike getting some aftermarket love because it just might be a perfect daily rider.
Wonder what Honda is thinking... The new Hornet isn’t in the USA yet. Around 95 horsepower rivals Aprilia, and could undercut the Aprilia in price as well. I suspect the emissions requirements here are holding them back. I remember when Europe complained about emissions. Now it’s our turn...
Honda is usually a year late on bringing bikes to the North American market. I suspect IF the Hornet is coming here, it will be next year.