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Just a quick thought. Is Ab-soul stable enough to be trustworthy? Will his conflicted mindset and new elevation feed his hunger to become number 1? (Maybe you could do a reading) Like Eddie from the five heartbeats. 3 things give me that impression. His desktop performance, his aura and the image of when Kdot was rapping to him with 1 hand on his shoulder at the pop out concert. I felt the internal battle between like and dark with it. Kdot trying to lift his spirit vs a conflicted Soulo spirit. Side note J cole reminds me of the snake in Jungle book
There’s a reason why he decided to start dressing like a damn homeless person. People tend to believe them way more than someone like Drake, even though they both have same agendas and that’s to deceive us. He did try to copy Kendrick Lamar!!! Kendrick is Extremely private and a family man…here goes Cole all the sudden that’s what he wanted to do. Kendrick wanted to live a more humble life again, here goes Cole with his homeless look 🙄🤦🏾♀️. J Cole is a WEIRDO!!!!!!!
That's for both them 🥷 ... i always ask the question of what makes a album a classic ? IMO, if I have to skip through close to a third of your album then that's not a classic
These rappers better stop playing with Kendrick. How many rappers does he need to put on a stretcher for them to get it? Boogeyman shows up, beats the soul out of folks, then disappears. Stop unleashing Hurricane Kendrick 🌀. Kendrick is a hip-hop force of nature! LEAVE HIM ALONE!
It's not Kendrick they doing it to themselves with the heart part 6 and the apology lol heart part 6 needed to be a hit cuz nothing drake dropped was a bop, og version of push ups was a lil better but he needed a back to back cuz that's what not like us was
@@timy9197 bro, Kendrick ended the career of the biggest star in the genre. Wtf are you even talking about. I am an 80s baby and a lifetime hip hop fan so I have lived through multiple eras, was there for Biggie and Pac,.Jay and Nas, 50 vs everyone lol. Never has a rapper so decisively destroyed an elite artists career like this. Maybe you could say 50 and Ja, but Ja wasn't ever seen as untouchable as Drake has been for the past decade.
He can’t rewrite history. He just wanted to do music and keep it on wax, if that was his heart truly. Maybe he shouldn’t have responded so fast. Both Drake and Kendrick took their time before they released. In port Antonio he says, “I understand the thirst of being first that made 'em both swing Protecting legacies, so lines got crossed, perhaps regrettably” THEY were thirsty??? However you were the first, within a week, to respond. Drake and Kendrick took WEEKS to respond with their songs. The Line got crossed regrettably🤨the only person I know to cross the line and regret it, is Cole. He the first one to say, “You want some attention, it come with extensions My dog like, "Say the word, " he on bullshit, he itchin' Done put in so much work in these streets, he got pension I told him chill out, how I look havin' henchman?” NOBODY had brought hints of bringing harm to ANYONE but Cole, FIRST. He crossed the line then he REGRETS it so he APOLOGIZED. Drake and Kendrick don’t get along/like each other. I’m sure they not regretting ANYTHING what’s understood is understood and it don’t need to be explained 😂 Then he says, “They strip me of my spot, and now I'm finally free, my n***a” Sir, NO. You stripped you from your spot selling wolf tickets acting like you were with the smoke and was ready to battle whoever. “They say I'm pickin' sides, don't you lie on me, my n***a” clearly your issue was with Kendrick that’s why you made 7MD aiming directly at him and NOT Drake. However Cole apologized to ONLY Kendrick, hopped on songs with ASAP where he was dissing Drake, hopped on the album with Future when we know they got a problem with Drake I mean damn the album is called We don’t trust you and WE all know it’s about Drake🤦🏾♀️, and worked with people that are in alliance with Kendrick. Buts it’s us that making up things but he moving how he moving. It took Cole more than 5 months to show Drake any LOVE. Here is the kicker, “Then start another war, Drake, you'll always be my n***a I ain't ashamed to say you did a lot for me, my n***a” in early interviews Kendrick, ASAp etc praised Drake (so clearly no one is ashamed)called him the homie but when you do snake and say slick things to people, nobody is going to want to mess with you like that or at all. They will judge your character and you will no longer serve your praises. Cole not this dense. Cole is gaslighting the fans and being cunning. They gave him the title of being oh so wise, he running with it and using it to save face. Also he is trying to make money don’t he got an album to sell?🤔so he got to clean up this whole I backed out look and say I chose peace. “They see fire in this one and think I’m dogging smoke” BUT YOU DID. Wtf?😭😂 He lied on Kendrick’s TPAB and said it was a sleeper but it’s one of his best albums with Kendrick having 2 or 3 classics back 2 back and now you’re lying on this song. I would hate for Cole to go against Kendrick if he continues to fumble like this. If me as a fan recognize the f***ery then imagine what Ken can do with it lyrically. I’m going to need Cole to get it together, I wanted the fall off not this😭😂
To pimp a butterfly 🦋 is my favorite kendrick lamar album. It help me with being homelessness in 2015 it's actually one of the greatest hip-hop albums in history
J Coles strategy was to take the throne whilst the spoils of war killed Drake and Kendrick "I walked away with the blood of both friends on me" Basically, in his mind, he walks away leaving them to bleed out. Like letting 2 mob bosses take each other out then he takes the crown. He knows Drake is bleeding out, hence sympathy and then him taking shots at Kdot because he still lives
The reason he has acted now is because he can't wait for the super bowl to happen because that could cement Kendrick as king so he wanted motion now. He is trying to use Drakes weapons to go at Kendrick as he sees Drake on his death bed. It's a war strategy. In hip hop though in which J Cole miscalculated is that the people crown the king. The king doesn't tell the people to crown them.
I have never been able to put my finger on why I never really messed with Cole. He has bars for days, and doesn't just rap about bullshit. So on paper it seems as if I would be a huge fan, but it always felt like there was something missing and his music just never really resonated with me. I listen to an album and I have to admit the songs are dope, but I have zero motivation to listen to them again. Hes like the Applebee's of hip hop to me
Joey Badass ‘Killuminti Pt. 2’ KDot ‘Control’ response was also top tier. And J. Cole NEVER responded to Wale’s ‘Groundhog’s Day (extended video)’. Which was Wale’s response to J. Cole’s ‘False Prophet’ track where he didn’t give Wale a heads up that he was gon speak about him. 💯💯💯
I’ve always liked how west coast artists stick together for the most part. Normally they never back down from a challenge. Drake & J. Cole leave Kendrick & friends alone. Every entertainer has to go to LA/west coast & these situations can get extremely messy. 🥴
J Cole knows Kendrick is his real competition so if Drake could have taken him out he would have loved it. Cole feels he is better than Drake so that's why he took sides with Drake. Cole is mad because he is jealous of Kendrick skill, shine and getting the super bowl. He wants it to all be him that has this year, that was held is such high regards, that's the topic of conversation and such. Cole is jealous and Drake is mad he got his behind handed to him!!!
Well said cole been feeling like that since control his been passive aggressive and saying lil slick things like i hate this fake deep rappers and all that and Kendrick knows that's he chose to distance himself from that energy but cole chose to take it further by teaming up with drake to undermine him he meant every word he said on 7 min drill
These men are slick envious of Kendrick and they’re showing it in passive aggressive ways. It’s nasty considering all of their ages. Kendrick is the only one who has handled himself like a MAN throughout his career and the battle.
Cole is beating himself up because he FOLDED!! He claimed to be Muhammed Ali, and when it came time to show and prove he realized he ain't bout that!! Cole is a lunch room rapper.
Sigh, Cole. You looking too suspect right now. Ambivalence wont clear it up. I maintain that Cole was a mole, but it's seeming like he was a shoddy double agent, at best. If he burned Kendrick, that's no bueno in my book. I didn't begrudge his neutrality because everyone is running around with people with dirty jackets. Dr. Dre, Jay Z, Future and Metro Boomin, to name a few, all have weird situations, but i didn't hold that against Kendrick- so i wasn't trying to be super hard on Cole. But if he was really conspiring against Ken? Massive points down in my book. Massive. Drake has always been dumpster juice to me. A person who uses Ghostwriters cant be in ANY greatest convo.
Agree. My hope is that Dre's, Metro, etc have GROWN. Growth, understanding what you did wrong, and change is important to me. Heck, we've all had some kind of not so proud moment. Though their moments are worse than candy stolen from the store (or something like that). Don't know that Future has outgrown his stuff yet, but HOPEFULLY. But, I'm with you. If I can't trust that you wrote your own lyrics you cannot win the battle, much less be a GOAT. Always liked Cole, but he got me giving him the side eye now. Dang. And I'm not gonna lie. Never did like Aubrey. His music autotune sounding ALLEGED singing or anything about him. I'll give him credit that he did have some good flows during the battle. Not good enough to win, but better than I expected. That said, I'm not surprised by his sketchy actions at all. However, Cole... Disappointing. And to now know he participated in a song referencing "freed slaves". No. Just no.
@gentilexpressionsinvites2895 I hope they grow, too. However growth does not mean we have to accept them back into the fold. Either way, the growth is necessary for their personal journey, so I do wish them well. ✨️ And I agree, deeply disappointed.
But Thought Crimez we said this when the song dropped. J Cole was being passive aggressive and that digging for dirt and paying for bot niggas line was for Kendrick. Drake said on the heart part 6 "you too busy DIGGING FOR DIRT when you should be digging for proof" and then accused Kendrick of using bots to boost Not Like Us. Drake is also convinced that Kendrick paid platforms like this one and reaction channels to sway the public to like his songs more lol. J Cole is a piece of 💩. It's still 2024 ladies and gentlemen ain't no hiding and lying it's the year of TRUTH!!!
@@JimmyHopkins-bw9jband which party was digging for dirt with those DV allegations. Based on a random girl saying she was told Kendrick did something when she never saw Kendrick. Only for it to be discovered Diddy was at the hotel on the day in question...
53:30 guys wasnt Wayno talking about Dreamfest 2024??? Wayno said he was backstage with Dreamville people and they were discrediting Dot. They didnt target TPAB. Dreamville was dissing Kendrick as a whole.
I was just listening to FYEO (which is literally my favorite Cole album along with born sinner just like you, which is crazy cause everyone always says they like FHD) and I was thinking to myself, why would Cole say TPAB is trash when they damn near have done the same thing or at least tried. Like I’ve always heard people say Cole is the sleepy one. But everything you guys say does add up. Cole really has been copying Kendrick and it does seem like a destiny swap thing with how it’s so spot on.
The mummy ref was hilarious 😂 had me dead lmaooo... i had to rewatch this a 2nd time it was such a damn good stream from start to finish! you both funny as fk 😂
Drake J Cole and Big Sean is all Subliminal Sneak Dissing each other for the Crown 👑 while their number 1 Target is King Kendrick Lamar and King Kendrick Lamar is going to be Dissing all three of them BBL Drizzy Drake J Fold and Lil Sean 😂
Wassupp TC . Sending great , positive vibes and spirits to you guys as when yall do streams , yall help a lot of people get thru with their day. I remember catching one of your Live streams not that long ago and Mr Cole was the topic and I was like ... mhmm I'm looking at Mr "smooth criminal" Cole . Now we seeing what he is about
Maan why when I was a youngin and went to Blockbuster with my moms I grabbed this movie. We automatically thought it was some comedy/family type ish. I was traumatized. I guess we ain’t even read the mf. 😂🤦🏾♂️
he's supporting lil durk and them with gun violence. think about the chinese zodiac here... stop calling them Snakes... I feel like I'm catching strays in ways I can't talk about here; No cap.
To say Big Sean ‘lost his fan base’ is wild. Big Sean was never Pop star level artist. Especially if we know we live in a fake internet age and fake streaming era. The quality of music should come FIRST. When only a handful of Rappers actually sell crazy first week. That album he dropped was very good, great to me. Great quality and balance aswell. He already said he wasn’t dissing Kenny before the album dropped. Kanye could have effected his #’s aswell. Influence wise. Sean album is very soulful like the Motown era of D Town. All of them know they never was actually better than KDot. J. Cole said more than 10 years ago that the only MC that outshined him was Kendrick. I was at that concert in Ft. Lauderdale FL when the interviewer asked Kendrick about that. And Kendrick even said he was ready for Em battle rap wise. 🔥🔥🔥
When I said loss, I mean in support. People said Nicki was out but her Barbz are still there. His album was good but something isn’t connecting with his base.
@@ThoughtCrimez Nicki reached Pop star level stardom. Sean was NEVER there. Nicki is a Pop Rapper like Drake. Big Sean is True MC. They two different artists. Nicki has never had substance thats a part of why Young Money was so successful/popular. 🤔🤔🤔
@@ThoughtCrimez Sean has never even did a solo arena size tour before. Pop star standom is real. Nicki is a one of one much like Drake female rap Pop legacy wise. 💯
Thought Crimez there are videos on UA-cam of J Cole stealing lyrics and biteting other rappers styles J Fold and BBL Drizzy Drake are both just alike 😂
Always felt Cole lacked depth and that his truer self was the older Letterman jacket Cole. That's why he had more energy on those tracks, once he grew out the dreads and became bicycle Jesus everything just felt bland and souless. He seemed to be saying all the right stuff with no conviction.
Thought Crimez do you remember Drake 8AM in Charlotte song I really think that Drake was Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole and Drake must have Dirty Laundry on J Cole because remember J Cole is from North Carolina
Being Messy to sell an overdue dried up album 💿 is wild I was putting prayer 🙏🏾 in the chat for dat foo I don’t fugg wit him ..Thank Prince and Sin for the dope content 🔥
Cole is jealous of Kendrick because Kendrick has what he believes he should have. Drake was supposed to run popular rap and Cole was stopped to run conscious rap and they were supposed rule over hip hop together. Then TPAB dropped and Kendrick has had the culture ever since.
Maybe. Kendrick never said that child was his daughter. I think he may have been talking about the Haitian woman's daughter. Aubrey was allegedly paying her child support in 2015 pending DNA test results. Bur I think there was a photo of the girl the internet was sayi g is Aubrey's daughter with Cole. It had "Thanks Pops" in the caption. The internet assumed she was thanking Aubrey for linking her up to Cole.
I’m not a rap connoisseur but I’ve always been into the rap/hip hop party tracks a side line story is a dope album in my opinion but born sinner is dope as hell that viluminati joint 🎉
@@Artislife1992I didn't say all that. I do think he's potentially better than Cole though. JID is still relatively new so I tend to put him below the likes of Ab-Soul because I don't know long he'll be great. Sometimes people fall off.
I love Ab but Cole might smoke him. If so, Cole can’t avoid Kenny. Cole isn’t scared but he understands the public likes Dot more. That scares him. He is deathly afraid of public perception. Appreciate Sol throwing his hat in the arena. TDE stand up for one another. Notice how out of all the Dreamville dudes, Cozz (CALI) is the only one who was ready to rap.
If drake isn't proven to be a pdf or have a daughter how do we view the battle ? Nothing drake has said has been proven either but im still waiting on actual proof of anything kendrick said other than the colonizer angle
@chosen1afrique304 i think I agree lol. Kendrick had the better music and im a drake fan. But if none of it was true it does put an asterisk on it for me. Maybe im just fishing for a w for drake lol
J Cole song Port Antonio J Cole is Subliminal Sneak Dissing Big Sean and Jay-Z by taking Jay-Z Dead Presidents beat and Big Sean instrumental beat song Boundaries because remember when Big Sean on the song YES Big Sean No BROKE Talk GOAT Talk Money Talkin to Me Like I Don't Need No MFKin Therapist now who Rap named used to be Therapist? 🤔 J Cole 🤯 and Big Sean on the YES song said I was in North Carolina Throwin Up Them Pyramids with HOV? J Cole and Jay-Z are secretly Beefing and the Checker Bored Chess Game in the Big Sean music video YES Big Sean was Mocking and Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole playing Chess while on FPS J Cole was playing Chess with Drake and on the song Typecast Big Sean was Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole aka J Fold 😂
@RavSy-p8e 0 seconds ago Jermaine is DL. He’s attracted to all the men he’s done features with etc. and he’s also jealous of them!!!! He is also jealous of women!!!
By the way that's cap J.I.D does not rap better than J. Cole I get it y'all hate J. Cole I understand but don't take away his incredible rapping abilities as a mc I already stated that I'm a Kendrick fan but you guys be doing too much glazing for Kendrick.
glazing because someone has a different opinion then you? your right all your opinions are over others, your the only one who truly understands music, we should all stop having opinions and start listening to ShamyaRhames-l4e
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Just a quick thought. Is Ab-soul stable enough to be trustworthy?
Will his conflicted mindset and new elevation feed his hunger to become number 1? (Maybe you could do a reading) Like Eddie from the five heartbeats. 3 things give me that impression. His desktop performance, his aura and the image of when Kdot was rapping to him with 1 hand on his shoulder at the pop out concert. I felt the internal battle between like and dark with it. Kdot trying to lift his spirit vs a conflicted Soulo spirit.
Side note J cole reminds me of the snake in Jungle book
J. Cole is like a Starbucks iced vanilla latte that you buy premade at the grocery store. Drake is like a bottle of Yoo-Hoo.
What 💀
LOL
And K Dot is the 40 glass bottle of OE. Lol
@@MrBmick79 that was cold as ice
Nasty
There’s a reason why he decided to start dressing like a damn homeless person. People tend to believe them way more than someone like Drake, even though they both have same agendas and that’s to deceive us.
He did try to copy Kendrick Lamar!!! Kendrick is Extremely private and a family man…here goes Cole all the sudden that’s what he wanted to do. Kendrick wanted to live a more humble life again, here goes Cole with his homeless look 🙄🤦🏾♀️. J Cole is a WEIRDO!!!!!!!
“Yeah, my first one like my last one, it's a classic, you don't have one”
Thats for Cole, not Drake.
That's for both them 🥷 ... i always ask the question of what makes a album a classic ? IMO, if I have to skip through close to a third of your album then that's not a classic
These rappers better stop playing with Kendrick. How many rappers does he need to put on a stretcher for them to get it? Boogeyman shows up, beats the soul out of folks, then disappears. Stop unleashing Hurricane Kendrick 🌀. Kendrick is a hip-hop force of nature! LEAVE HIM ALONE!
For purely selfish reasons I hope they keep poking the bear lol. I need an extension to the Boogeyman Kendrick era
@@tylerbrown565I feel you! 2024 has been one of the most exciting years in hip-hop all because Kendrick has been in boogeyman mode.
It's not Kendrick they doing it to themselves with the heart part 6 and the apology lol heart part 6 needed to be a hit cuz nothing drake dropped was a bop, og version of push ups was a lil better but he needed a back to back cuz that's what not like us was
Respect Kendrick and all but he only got one so far though and it was drake of all people
@@timy9197 bro, Kendrick ended the career of the biggest star in the genre. Wtf are you even talking about. I am an 80s baby and a lifetime hip hop fan so I have lived through multiple eras, was there for Biggie and Pac,.Jay and Nas, 50 vs everyone lol. Never has a rapper so decisively destroyed an elite artists career like this. Maybe you could say 50 and Ja, but Ja wasn't ever seen as untouchable as Drake has been for the past decade.
He can’t rewrite history. He just wanted to do music and keep it on wax, if that was his heart truly. Maybe he shouldn’t have responded so fast. Both Drake and Kendrick took their time before they released. In port Antonio he says, “I understand the thirst of being first that made 'em both swing
Protecting legacies, so lines got crossed, perhaps regrettably” THEY were thirsty??? However you were the first, within a week, to respond. Drake and Kendrick took WEEKS to respond with their songs. The Line got crossed regrettably🤨the only person I know to cross the line and regret it, is Cole. He the first one to say, “You want some attention, it come with extensions
My dog like, "Say the word, " he on bullshit, he itchin'
Done put in so much work in these streets, he got pension
I told him chill out, how I look havin' henchman?” NOBODY had brought hints of bringing harm to ANYONE but Cole, FIRST. He crossed the line then he REGRETS it so he APOLOGIZED. Drake and Kendrick don’t get along/like each other. I’m sure they not regretting ANYTHING what’s understood is understood and it don’t need to be explained 😂
Then he says, “They strip me of my spot, and now I'm finally free, my n***a” Sir, NO. You stripped you from your spot selling wolf tickets acting like you were with the smoke and was ready to battle whoever.
“They say I'm pickin' sides, don't you lie on me, my n***a” clearly your issue was with Kendrick that’s why you made 7MD aiming directly at him and NOT Drake. However Cole apologized to ONLY Kendrick, hopped on songs with ASAP where he was dissing Drake, hopped on the album with Future when we know they got a problem with Drake I mean damn the album is called We don’t trust you and WE all know it’s about Drake🤦🏾♀️, and worked with people that are in alliance with Kendrick. Buts it’s us that making up things but he moving how he moving. It took Cole more than 5 months to show Drake any LOVE.
Here is the kicker, “Then start another war, Drake, you'll always be my n***a
I ain't ashamed to say you did a lot for me, my n***a” in early interviews Kendrick, ASAp etc praised Drake (so clearly no one is ashamed)called him the homie but when you do snake and say slick things to people, nobody is going to want to mess with you like that or at all. They will judge your character and you will no longer serve your praises.
Cole not this dense. Cole is gaslighting the fans and being cunning. They gave him the title of being oh so wise, he running with it and using it to save face. Also he is trying to make money don’t he got an album to sell?🤔so he got to clean up this whole I backed out look and say I chose peace. “They see fire in this one and think I’m dogging smoke” BUT YOU DID. Wtf?😭😂
He lied on Kendrick’s TPAB and said it was a sleeper but it’s one of his best albums with Kendrick having 2 or 3 classics back 2 back and now you’re lying on this song. I would hate for Cole to go against Kendrick if he continues to fumble like this. If me as a fan recognize the f***ery then imagine what Ken can do with it lyrically. I’m going to need Cole to get it together, I wanted the fall off not this😭😂
AB-SOUL BEST LYRICST IN HIPHOP
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To pimp a butterfly 🦋 is my favorite kendrick lamar album. It help me with being homelessness in 2015 it's actually one of the greatest hip-hop albums in history
I love it, too. Hoping things are better for you now than 2015. Best wishes.
@gentilexpressionsinvites2895 Yes. Thank you I ve officially got out being homeless in 2019, a successful career in IT administration
J Coles strategy was to take the throne whilst the spoils of war killed Drake and Kendrick
"I walked away with the blood of both friends on me"
Basically, in his mind, he walks away leaving them to bleed out. Like letting 2 mob bosses take each other out then he takes the crown. He knows Drake is bleeding out, hence sympathy and then him taking shots at Kdot because he still lives
The reason he has acted now is because he can't wait for the super bowl to happen because that could cement Kendrick as king so he wanted motion now. He is trying to use Drakes weapons to go at Kendrick as he sees Drake on his death bed. It's a war strategy. In hip hop though in which J Cole miscalculated is that the people crown the king. The king doesn't tell the people to crown them.
@@peeezeee5489 clock it
I have never been able to put my finger on why I never really messed with Cole. He has bars for days, and doesn't just rap about bullshit. So on paper it seems as if I would be a huge fan, but it always felt like there was something missing and his music just never really resonated with me. I listen to an album and I have to admit the songs are dope, but I have zero motivation to listen to them again. Hes like the Applebee's of hip hop to me
Joey Badass ‘Killuminti Pt. 2’ KDot ‘Control’ response was also top tier. And J. Cole NEVER responded to Wale’s ‘Groundhog’s Day (extended video)’. Which was Wale’s response to J. Cole’s ‘False Prophet’ track where he didn’t give Wale a heads up that he was gon speak about him. 💯💯💯
Ari Lennox had to cancel her LA shows due to low ticket sales & she was talking about her IRS debt recently. What’s going on over at Dreamville!?
Oh, dang. Really? Ugh-oh.
@@gentilexpressionsinvites2895she sabotaged her own career by talking
I always thought DJ Hed energy on Cole was weird now it makes sense why
you know time tells a lot.
I’ve always liked how west coast artists stick together for the most part. Normally they never back down from a challenge. Drake & J. Cole leave Kendrick & friends alone. Every entertainer has to go to LA/west coast & these situations can get extremely messy. 🥴
J Cole knows Kendrick is his real competition so if Drake could have taken him out he would have loved it. Cole feels he is better than Drake so that's why he took sides with Drake.
Cole is mad because he is jealous of Kendrick skill, shine and getting the super bowl. He wants it to all be him that has this year, that was held is such high regards, that's the topic of conversation and such.
Cole is jealous and Drake is mad he got his behind handed to him!!!
Well said cole been feeling like that since control his been passive aggressive and saying lil slick things like i hate this fake deep rappers and all that and Kendrick knows that's he chose to distance himself from that energy but cole chose to take it further by teaming up with drake to undermine him he meant every word he said on 7 min drill
@@yaredteferra7630 but it's all rap right? Its hip hop so it's fair game correct?
@@I.B.G_Entertainment sure i would've respected it if he can stand on it but instead he wants to throw a rock and hide that makes him a coward
@yaredteferra7630 exactly
These men are slick envious of Kendrick and they’re showing it in passive aggressive ways. It’s nasty considering all of their ages. Kendrick is the only one who has handled himself like a MAN throughout his career and the battle.
Cole is beating himself up because he FOLDED!! He claimed to be Muhammed Ali, and when it came time to show and prove he realized he ain't bout that!! Cole is a lunch room rapper.
Sigh, Cole. You looking too suspect right now. Ambivalence wont clear it up.
I maintain that Cole was a mole, but it's seeming like he was a shoddy double agent, at best.
If he burned Kendrick, that's no bueno in my book.
I didn't begrudge his neutrality because everyone is running around with people with dirty jackets.
Dr. Dre, Jay Z, Future and Metro Boomin, to name a few, all have weird situations, but i didn't hold that against Kendrick- so i wasn't trying to be super hard on Cole. But if he was really conspiring against Ken? Massive points down in my book. Massive.
Drake has always been dumpster juice to me. A person who uses Ghostwriters cant be in ANY greatest convo.
Cole is jealous of Kendrick he feels like he deserves the shine Kendrick gets
So Kanye can't be in no greatest anything convos? Lol Kanye and Drake are top 5 hip hop artists of all time you buggin
Agree.
My hope is that Dre's, Metro, etc have GROWN. Growth, understanding what you did wrong, and change is important to me. Heck, we've all had some kind of not so proud moment. Though their moments are worse than candy stolen from the store (or something like that). Don't know that Future has outgrown his stuff yet, but HOPEFULLY.
But, I'm with you. If I can't trust that you wrote your own lyrics you cannot win the battle, much less be a GOAT.
Always liked Cole, but he got me giving him the side eye now. Dang.
And I'm not gonna lie. Never did like Aubrey. His music autotune sounding ALLEGED singing or anything about him. I'll give him credit that he did have some good flows during the battle. Not good enough to win, but better than I expected.
That said, I'm not surprised by his sketchy actions at all. However, Cole... Disappointing. And to now know he participated in a song referencing "freed slaves". No. Just no.
@@lookatowel nobody calls kanye the greatest rapper ever great producer great artist maybe fashion but never greatest rapper
@gentilexpressionsinvites2895 I hope they grow, too. However growth does not mean we have to accept them back into the fold.
Either way, the growth is necessary for their personal journey, so I do wish them well. ✨️
And I agree, deeply disappointed.
amazing stream today, you guys always knock it out of the park.
Awwww you guys are so funny! I love binge watching your content, as we're on different time zones. The song at the end had me in tears 😂😂😂😂
Jcole is jesus😂😂
But Thought Crimez we said this when the song dropped. J Cole was being passive aggressive and that digging for dirt and paying for bot niggas line was for Kendrick. Drake said on the heart part 6 "you too busy DIGGING FOR DIRT when you should be digging for proof" and then accused Kendrick of using bots to boost Not Like Us. Drake is also convinced that Kendrick paid platforms like this one and reaction channels to sway the public to like his songs more lol. J Cole is a piece of 💩. It's still 2024 ladies and gentlemen ain't no hiding and lying it's the year of TRUTH!!!
You and y'all were right.
Anybody with a Twitter account and a brain knows which party is using bots
@@JimmyHopkins-bw9jband which party was digging for dirt with those DV allegations. Based on a random girl saying she was told Kendrick did something when she never saw Kendrick. Only for it to be discovered Diddy was at the hotel on the day in question...
Ab Soul is my husband in my head 😍
BEANS WAS A BEAST...THE TRUTH💯...but man...yall know them biracial stick together...trauma bonding😂
53:30 guys wasnt Wayno talking about Dreamfest 2024???
Wayno said he was backstage with Dreamville people and they were discrediting Dot.
They didnt target TPAB. Dreamville was dissing Kendrick as a whole.
yup this is it
Man this podcast is refreshing people actually talking bout lyrics
I was just listening to FYEO (which is literally my favorite Cole album along with born sinner just like you, which is crazy cause everyone always says they like FHD) and I was thinking to myself, why would Cole say TPAB is trash when they damn near have done the same thing or at least tried. Like I’ve always heard people say Cole is the sleepy one. But everything you guys say does add up. Cole really has been copying Kendrick and it does seem like a destiny swap thing with how it’s so spot on.
Cole is a fair weather Friend
Jole and drizzl both extra cheese on the chicken quesadilla of Herbert Anthony's. 😅🧀😂😂
Hurricane Kendrick 😂😂😂
The mummy ref was hilarious 😂 had me dead lmaooo... i had to rewatch this a 2nd time it was such a damn good stream from start to finish! you both funny as fk 😂
You know them oreos gonna stick together 😅 and get ate up everytime just modern day karens #JFoldandBBLdrizzy
King Kendrick Lamar prayer 🙏🏽 ❤ Watch The Party 💀 alot of people getting Expose
King Kendrick Lamar prayer 🙏🏽❤ is working 💪🏽💯
Team Envy No DJ. I love yall 😂
Drake J Cole and Big Sean is all Subliminal Sneak Dissing each other for the Crown 👑 while their number 1 Target is King Kendrick Lamar and King Kendrick Lamar is going to be Dissing all three of them BBL Drizzy Drake J Fold and Lil Sean 😂
Wassupp TC . Sending great , positive vibes and spirits to you guys as when yall do streams , yall help a lot of people get thru with their day.
I remember catching one of your Live streams not that long ago and Mr Cole was the topic and I was like ... mhmm I'm looking at Mr "smooth criminal" Cole . Now we seeing what he is about
The Good Son what a classic movie!! Drake n J Cole co starring in that is hilarious!! 😂😂🙌🏽
Maan why when I was a youngin and went to Blockbuster with my moms I grabbed this movie. We automatically thought it was some comedy/family type ish. I was traumatized. I guess we ain’t even read the mf. 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@Artislife1992 bruuuhhh that movie was cold blooded!! Mr. Home alone was a mf menace in that movie 😮💨😂😂
4YEO was a direct response to TPAB.
Literally. Even down to the titling alluding to Tupac.
Drake and Cole move like the stereotype of Karens.
Cole is still a phoney ahh rapper
Now that I think about it what rich neighborhood did Drake grow up in? What’s was J Cole’s no feature album called? 🤯🤯🤯
Forest hills
I still like J. Cole even though I'm a Kendrick Lamar fan it's Drake I can't stand he gives me the ick.
Cole wrong for defending him in the open like that... He doesn't know what he's doing.
I hate J Hoe now
he's supporting lil durk and them with gun violence. think about the chinese zodiac here... stop calling them Snakes... I feel like I'm catching strays in ways I can't talk about here; No cap.
@@mannmuzo1847 Man.
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To say Big Sean ‘lost his fan base’ is wild. Big Sean was never Pop star level artist. Especially if we know we live in a fake internet age and fake streaming era. The quality of music should come FIRST. When only a handful of Rappers actually sell crazy first week.
That album he dropped was very good, great to me. Great quality and balance aswell. He already said he wasn’t dissing Kenny before the album dropped. Kanye could have effected his #’s aswell. Influence wise. Sean album is very soulful like the Motown era of D Town.
All of them know they never was actually better than KDot. J. Cole said more than 10 years ago that the only MC that outshined him was Kendrick. I was at that concert in Ft. Lauderdale FL when the interviewer asked Kendrick about that. And Kendrick even said he was ready for Em battle rap wise. 🔥🔥🔥
When I said loss, I mean in support. People said Nicki was out but her Barbz are still there. His album was good but something isn’t connecting with his base.
@@ThoughtCrimez Nicki reached Pop star level stardom. Sean was NEVER there. Nicki is a Pop Rapper like Drake. Big Sean is True MC. They two different artists. Nicki has never had substance thats a part of why Young Money was so successful/popular. 🤔🤔🤔
@@Artislife1992 Good point, but some Pop stars even die out fans wise.
@@ThoughtCrimez Sean has never even did a solo arena size tour before. Pop star standom is real. Nicki is a one of one much like Drake female rap Pop legacy wise. 💯
4 Your Eyes Only was my favorite Cole record
Thought Crimez there are videos on UA-cam of J Cole stealing lyrics and biteting other rappers styles J Fold and BBL Drizzy Drake are both just alike 😂
Always felt Cole lacked depth and that his truer self was the older Letterman jacket Cole. That's why he had more energy on those tracks, once he grew out the dreads and became bicycle Jesus everything just felt bland and souless. He seemed to be saying all the right stuff with no conviction.
The Sin & Prince singing duet is underrated.
Thought Crimez do you remember Drake 8AM in Charlotte song I really think that Drake was Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole and Drake must have Dirty Laundry on J Cole because remember J Cole is from North Carolina
Team Envy no DJ man Prince gotta be stopped 😂😂😂😂
Being Messy to sell an overdue dried up album 💿 is wild I was putting prayer 🙏🏾 in the chat for dat foo I don’t fugg wit him ..Thank Prince and Sin for the dope content 🔥
Drake & Cole new group is called The Boy Jesus.
Damn, I missed the live stream.
I missed the livestream too ScoobyDoobieDo!
Where were U🤷🏾♀️ LMBAO 🤣 🤣
Punch just came out and said that Ab Soul wasn't dissing Cole and that Cole didn't diss Kendrick on Pi
J Cole was Subliminal Sneak Dissing K-Dot on the song Pi J Cole is the guy that throws rocks 🪨 at someone and than hides his hands
Where can the Glasses Malone rant be found?
Digital Soapbox Network on UA-cam
ab soul would absolutely shmoke cole in a battle ,, no challenge
Cole is jealous of Kendrick because Kendrick has what he believes he should have. Drake was supposed to run popular rap and Cole was stopped to run conscious rap and they were supposed rule over hip hop together. Then TPAB dropped and Kendrick has had the culture ever since.
Thats Capped!!!!!
Maybe the girls j Cole's daughter
This
How Sway?! 🤷🏾♀️🤔
Maybe. Kendrick never said that child was his daughter. I think he may have been talking about the Haitian woman's daughter. Aubrey was allegedly paying her child support in 2015 pending DNA test results. Bur I think there was a photo of the girl the internet was sayi g is Aubrey's daughter with Cole. It had "Thanks Pops" in the caption. The internet assumed she was thanking Aubrey for linking her up to Cole.
I’m not a rap connoisseur but I’ve always been into the rap/hip hop party tracks a side line story is a dope album in my opinion but born sinner is dope as hell that viluminati joint 🎉
Kanye directed the “Best I Ever Had” video 😅😂
Ye directed the best i ever had video. Probably made it garbage on purpose
JID is fire! 🔥
He on Ab Soul level? He got a ‘Control System’ level album? 🤔🤔🤔
@@Artislife1992I didn't say all that. I do think he's potentially better than Cole though. JID is still relatively new so I tend to put him below the likes of Ab-Soul because I don't know long he'll be great. Sometimes people fall off.
@@yugfus how is he potentially better if he’s less experienced and doesn’t have great, incredible or classic albums? Which songs did he outdo Cole on?
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It's funny cause I think FD was a school teacher 😂
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2:13:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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2:04:05 hell naahh 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
I love Ab but Cole might smoke him.
If so, Cole can’t avoid Kenny.
Cole isn’t scared but he understands the public likes Dot more. That scares him. He is deathly afraid of public perception.
Appreciate Sol throwing his hat in the arena. TDE stand up for one another. Notice how out of all the Dreamville dudes, Cozz (CALI) is the only one who was ready to rap.
Bruh.... you on some good shit if you think J. Cole can take on Soulo in his final form.
Let me some of those hallucinogenics. You tripping
Prime Solo was a version Cole could never reach. Ascended Solo neither.
You on that fucking dog food if you think cole smoking anyone lmao he wouldn’t even smoke Kodak!!!!! He is SOFT!! SOFFFFT!!!!!! Get outta hea!
Cole aint smoking shit! Does he have the heart to go at Soul?
If drake isn't proven to be a pdf or have a daughter how do we view the battle ? Nothing drake has said has been proven either but im still waiting on actual proof of anything kendrick said other than the colonizer angle
Like Joe Budden said, they both lied on each other. They had a lie off. Kendrick won. Everyone moves on. It's battle rap.
@chosen1afrique304 i think I agree lol. Kendrick had the better music and im a drake fan. But if none of it was true it does put an asterisk on it for me. Maybe im just fishing for a w for drake lol
24:10 easy ways j hoe
J Cole song Port Antonio J Cole is Subliminal Sneak Dissing Big Sean and Jay-Z by taking Jay-Z Dead Presidents beat and Big Sean instrumental beat song Boundaries because remember when Big Sean on the song YES Big Sean No BROKE Talk GOAT Talk Money Talkin to Me Like I Don't Need No MFKin Therapist now who Rap named used to be Therapist? 🤔 J Cole 🤯 and Big Sean on the YES song said I was in North Carolina Throwin Up Them Pyramids with HOV? J Cole and Jay-Z are secretly Beefing and the Checker Bored Chess Game in the Big Sean music video YES Big Sean was Mocking and Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole playing Chess while on FPS J Cole was playing Chess with Drake and on the song Typecast Big Sean was Subliminal Sneak Dissing J Cole aka J Fold 😂
They crazy. Ab don't want no smoke wit Cole
Who is night night?
When is Kendrick gonna speak for himself?
on that album, you’ll hear it loud and clear.
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Jermaine is DL. He’s attracted to all the men he’s done features with etc. and he’s also jealous of them!!!! He is also jealous of women!!!
By the way that's cap J.I.D does not rap better than J. Cole I get it y'all hate J. Cole I understand but don't take away his incredible rapping abilities as a mc I already stated that I'm a Kendrick fan but you guys be doing too much glazing for Kendrick.
glazing because someone has a different opinion then you? your right all your opinions are over others, your the only one who truly understands music, we should all stop having opinions and start listening to ShamyaRhames-l4e
You're not a Kdot fan I wish yall stop saying that
@RedJackkk then had the nerves to call us glazers meanwhile D riding J Fold 😂