@@cicada3437 if somebody lies once about a key item in n investigation, that means they CAN lie again. That’s the point. Don’t choose to be ignorant for this woman
These women are different in this era fellas we gotta learn how to turn them down and stay outta prison cause clearly even if we are right we still wrong.
@@BLee09 like what that’s playa 101 only time you do some shit like that is when the girls beefing lmaoo. They was all cool and he had to fuck the vibe up
Its just unfair how women can get caught lying like this and its oh well... But if that was a man he would've lost all his sponsorship deals and the media would be running a story about it for the next month. But he's just a Black man he can handle it. He'll be alright right?
Tory has a history of lying too... He lied about putting hands on August Alsina while out on bail, saying he wasn't there and doesn't know what people are talking about then the video came out... 🤷🏽♀️
@@PLANETROCKWELL this lie was about her coochie and who'd been in it when have you ever seen a man lose his sponsorship because of who he slept with,you all are weird
Save the sob story for Black men... They literally have been exploiting Black women in videos, strip clubs, prostitution, s*x trafficking and in relationships for decades. Face the facts. Tory Lanez's outcome is not what's happening across the board to Black men.
Lying once and twice about something as important as having a sexual affair with someone that’s on the stand fucks up your creditability. Period. Stop excusing ppl who lie.
@@Leon-bt7gw what do you mean? Are u asking me if it's ok to lie? The Bible says no, if that's the answer to your question. Outside of that, yes it was very much ok. It was none of Gail's business. Nor is it ours. She is not a lawyer or judge. What wasn't ok was her asking such a private question anyway. Has no bearings on what happened that night. Shame on Gail. And at least Megan wasn't stupid and knew not to lie in court where it actually mattered.
YEP and that’s why they won’t mess with her at all. She has to collab with these new artists who have less to lose than them. They are just going to let her stand on her own.
For her little fans who keep saying why does it matter if she lied? It matters bc she a grown woman lying about something small, that means she will lie about something big. I don’t trust people who lie your character go out the window for me. Meg whole brand now has become sympathy and victim since she got with Roc nation. Meg the type that’s very manipulative. That throw rocks and hide behind her hand. You got pay really close attention to people like her they will smile in your face while stealing your wallet. That’s the vibe meg gives to me.
Because she doesn't want the world to know her sexual history that means she's... a thief? These think pieces sound like projection. I'm not spilling my sexual history in any interview, it is literally nobody's business but my own. The entitlement to celebrities lives is at an all time high of insanity, now we're using it to make proclamations and declarations about their entire lives? Really??
@@jennieguardian7094Because she didn’t want to perjure herself. She knew they would prove it but to manipulate the public was sick. Because the public was attacking him and Kelsey.
4:10 NO she literally said “ he kept catching me when I was out of my mind “ She is 100 percent trying to subtly imply that she was taken advantage of. Just to put that narrative out there for those(feminists )who want to believe that. Or push that narrative. She ain’t slick. She knew exactly what she was doing with that wording.
She lied. That’s the end. Just because she’s the typical industry tool, doesn’t mean she should be excused for it. People love glorifying those industry tools( garden tool) Having conversations about why to excuse the lie is weird
Me too‼️ my theory is Kelsey pulled the burner out Tory grabbed it then it went off they all decided to get over it but 12 came so they turned on each other then RN got ahold of it and threw Tory under the bus
@@southernteawithbutta5526so why was Tory trying to paint the narrative she's wasn't shot......at all......what was the reason for that.....untruth.....🧐🤔🌝
She lied about fuqqin him and she lied about him comin on the stage after her...he made sure to follow the rules of the restraining order and its video proof of him doing such...its honestly disgusting and pitiful how shes scrambling like an egg in a pan to secure whats left the of public favor; it aint working.
What are you talking about what does fucking him has to do with him shooting her the dude shot her and she tried to protect him until he kept putting out all these false narratives she never wanted to send him to jail until he forced her hand
We all know he didn’t shoot her. We all know, he shoot the gun in the air. Especially when the police department, supposedly, they lost the bullet fragment. And then the medical report said, glass was in her foot. Then a second one said, bullet fragments. Hmm, allot of coincidences. We all knew, Kelsey was going to pop her. We all know Meg been on thot behaviors. Everyone knew Tory was going to get locked up cause he was on probation. We assumed, Meg would accept accountability but we all knew she wouldn’t. Kinda like, Kamala losing the election, we all knew trump was going to win. Don’t know why folks complaining.
@@WarrenRiddle-y8q yea no it does matter unfortunately in a case like this you have to be 100% truthful of the time that you can recall all the incidents. If u go back on a previous statement and it turned out to be a lie then what else could be or is a lie within the case especially if you're accusing someone of shooting you. This was also a dispute in between three people who was messing with each other as well that led up to the incident so if she lies about having sex with one of the members involved then what really happened? If you lie even one time in a case like this it creates reasonable doubt.
"she already testified in court" Yet she ran a 2 year campaign on the fact that he shot her because she flamed his music. She knows it doesn't look good for the narrative and in fact it exposes the clear motive that her friend (tory girl) shot at her.
@@BLee09 discharging the gun in the air to break up a fight is negligent discharge. Being in possession of an unlicensed gun, and waving a gun during an altercation is considered assault with a deadly weapon. All these things were brought to court by his own defense(which is crazy af), but he didn't get charged for shooting Meg.
Love how uncomfortable the end was. All of the people in the room are the problem she spoke about. Hopefully podcasts and journalism improve in the future. Minimal hope, but its there
I see common sense just goes over a lot of people heads😔. If you just drunk sexing Tory, why drag him out the house? Jealousy plays a big part in her story… But free ☂️. I hope Meg heals mentally and one day speak the truth! Too many men and women behind the wall based off lies. 👊🏾
Exactly…and the sad part is she’s just not the only person that walks around the world lying like this…and even sadder, a lot of females relate to her because they do the same thing. LIE LIE AND KEEP LYING‼️ to the point to where now, they don’t see no big deal with someone lying period. Smfhh fucking sad ass society smfh
@@fionaday1336 they are not negating that she was truthful under oath, but it’s the fact she lied about it in the first place & people are now questioning her credibility as a whole.
@@fionaday1336 because prior to being forced to do so in a court, she lied on a international public platform.... 1. That reached more ppl than the court case. 2. She was forced to tell the truth there due to proof & witness testimonial
@@fortylovestyle2789 the documentary is full of lies and it's already been exposed . A fake victim who can't stop lying . I think people should read court transcripts. The lies ,the missing gun ,the missing bullet fragments ,the sealed 911 call , nobody supporting megans lies including her bestie and even and independent witness
Either way who gives AF. They violated her and she didn't press charges on anybody. She was willing to write this off as a ghetto incident. Y'all forgot when she wasn't saying anything and was like I'm not pressing charges on anybody it was a drunk night..Then the trolling started.
Y’all gotta go read court transcripts and shit. This LIE and MISINFORMATION that Megan didn’t say anything to police is WRONG. Megan went to the police 4 days after the shooting to give her statement. It was all in the preliminary hearing. She didn’t press charges so she wouldn’t look like a snitch so she let the the state pick them up.
wrong, she was talking to cops 4 days after the incident. The “lies” she cited as the reason she got on live and said Tory shot her (I didn’t put my hands on nobody, I wasn’t jealous about Tory and Kylie) turned out to be true as hell.
5:41 This is ANOTHER thing Megan keeps lying about. Megan makes it seem like they just left and it happened. No Kelsey and Megan already left and Megan asked Tory’s driver to turn around because she left a slipper 🙄 really to go back and start some shit because that’s when Kylie kicked them out. That speaks to her aggression she don’t want to admit that! Kelsey and the driver both confirmed this happened but let Megan tell it it didn’t happened they all left once and Tory shot her. Her story is VERY different from EVERYBODY’S!
Why nobody talking about the phone call. Why would meg never talk to him why he was pleading he would never do that if he wasnt drunk...... If he didn't do nothing why would she hate him and never talk to him again
In hindsight, what Meg should have done was turn up on Gayle and told her "yeah... i fucked him but that has nothing to do with what happened and i think it's pretty dirty that you asked me that" and honestly if Tory really did "accidentally" Shoot Meg, them having a sexual relationship means nothing.
People are trying to Establish a Motive.. since there Appeared to be No Motive behind a possible shooting.. the sexual affair Establishes WHY her and her Best Friend were Fighting eachother... and WHY a Gun was potentially presented.. soo then you get to WHOs Gun is it.. Who Brought the Gun etc... yall are Acting so Dense and Defensive cuz you don't want to be Held Accountable for your Sexual Choices.. lol
Who hasn't been dishonest about having sex with someone you regret. Can we focus and be logical on what he was charged with? She didn't press charges against him. LA County prosecuted him. It's all public record. Why are we conflating and bleeding the lines of this topic and what actually happened.
The fact you just said lying about who you slept with is normal is crazy as hell to begin with. In her case, it's 10 times worse because people think it was her and her friend fighting because they both were sleeping with him and she's out here lying about it ever happening. Yes, he was found guilty, but there's numerous people in jail for things they didn't do and vice versa. We all know this justice system is flawed all around.
@lateshashampree exacly, shit is sad. Then we get looked at as if we're crazy or in the wrong for wanting some undeniable proof of what was said instead of just believing it nowadays.
@@deemommy5940 yeah but to be honest we all knew that already before she said it . When she was saying she’s out of her mind she was already mentally going through depression from everything that happened
@@laydeemya8932idk why more ppl don’t understand that, her lien abt having sex with him is 1 thing, but for her to get shot at an almost killed is on a whole other level
@@TurtleFootMiningit was her friend that got immunity who did it obviously, if you’re innocent you don’t need an immunity deal plus they never found gun powder residue on Tory or fingerprints
@@lorenzohaynes3886it’s not a good look but at the same time so what? I don’t care what the situation is you don’t pull a gun on anybody unless you willing to shoot and that should be if you or somebody else is in immediate danger.
@Liteskinblacknotmix3d stfu with this d^mb ahs comment. A whole blacc man is locced up behind her. She had plenty of people riding with her, interviews and all, so you can push the statement right bacc up your ahs.
I can’t believe people are still talking about this. Lying about sleeping with him doesn’t mean she lied about who shot her. What does she gain from lying on Tory?The phone call to Kelsey was damning. He was expressing concern to Kelsey about Megan never talking to him again. He said he’s never done anything like that before. I’m sure he’s cheated on women. Also he said he was drunk. I’m sure he didn’t have to be drunk to cheat. If Kelsey was his girl, why was he expressing concern to Kelsey about Megan never talking to him again? That’s all on the phone call. Just listen to it again please.
@@Rachel_Martin90 She Gained Awards & The Key To A City For Lying, Among Many Other Things (More Success Overall). U Mfs Are Dishonest As Hell Lol U Don’t Wanna Assume When It Comes To The Holes In Her Stories But Wanna Assume Concerning AN APOLOGY. Could’ve Been Apologizing For Sleeping With Best Friends, Leading Them To Fight & Mistakenly Fire Off As Well, Right? Lol Assume That, Or At Least Just Be Objective
He never admitted to shooting her Tory DNA wasn’t found on the gun and Kelsey had residue on her and the investigators found a woman’s prints on the gun and she was also messing with tory and she also asked for immunity and it was a pink gun come on😂
Literally everything Megan said happened was proven untrue in court. She’s saying she slept with him once or twice. Not only did people know they were dealing with each other over an extended period of time (there are even pics of them together long before the shooting), but her stylist even said during the trial that he felt comfortable leaving her with Tory because of the nature of their relationship. She said she was shot by him from the inside of the car after being told to “dance bitch,” while walking away, which was also proven untrue in court as the entire thing stemmed from a fight that she had with Kelsey that occurred outside of the car that was about her sleeping with Tory behind Kelsey’s back. So yes, lying and down playing your relationship with him is a big deal because it shows Kelsey, not Tory, had motive to shoot her. It is also another lie she told about a situation where a man was sentenced to 10 years in prison. Credibility hugely important. Speaking to several men, even allowing a situation to escalate to the point where a gun was shot warrants an apology from that man. So I feel your perspective, but that phone call was not an absolute admission of guilt.
@@jayjonah1227 Megan didn't file the charges. She protected Tory in the beginning. Then he started trolling her. Then Kelsey started. Why aren't y'all mad at Kelsey for not clearing things up for Tory? I'm so confused by that.
Thank yall for keeping it 💯‼️👏🏿👏🏿 Why Meg & her ppl don’t see that is crazy a regular person would ask that and question ALL parties years later we still don’t know what happened in that car
@@valeo3508 Allegedly Meg and Her Ex friend fought the night she got shot. There is a video of the Ex friend going on IG Live to say she fuck Tory knowing she was messing with him and was mad salty about it
Mark 8:36-37 KJV For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
1. Y’all commenting on things without full context. If you not going to do the true research then stop spreading misinformation. 2. She admitted she had sex with him during the trial. I don’t know why people acting like this is new information.
EVERYONE did not follow the trial on a day to day basis. She did a interview w/ Gayle that was way bigger than following the trial. So yes idiot...this is actually new information for a lot of people stupid. 😂
You think we slow and dont know that. Its the fact the she lied about it to gayle king interview. When someone lies to people you tend not to trust that person as much as you did at first.
@@Tdottdot because they want to let their disdain for women and women like her be known. I can understand why certain women go around saying men really hate women. The comment section is rich! And truth be told, I am delighted they are mad ::insert Joe’s laugh:: 🤷🏽♀️ The woman answered truthfully to ppl who hold titles, not a bunch of fools on the internet thinking they’re entitled to anything
I’m seriously over the think pieces and discussions about this. Ya man is in jail because of continued violence and criminal behavior with fire arms! Let it go!!!!
@@honeycomb485 Well now he’s fighting it and it’s already being accepted…. So that’s what. And throwing in somebody’s face that an innocent man is in jail is not the flex you think it is…
He was apologizing for putting them in that position by exposing he had sex with Megan behind Kelsey back which ultimately led to Megan and Kelsey fighting. Y’all rlly believe what y’all want. 😂
@@thetv3583he literally said he was wrong, drunk and that wasn’t in his character. It’s not rocket science…why would he omit the vagueness and completely incriminate himself on a recorded line??! 😩
@@ninobrown84 Again stop telling about rocket science BS ,it's simple ,this is a legal issue and we need evidence beyond reasonable doubt to find someone guilty so it's simple provide time stamps and stop telling me how you feel . In what minute or second of the phone call did he incriminate himself ?Kelsey was drunk nearly drowned and had to get sleep ,Megan's wig was falling off in the pool according to her stylist EJ and that's when they left then Megan asked the driver to come back to Kylie's house lying about shoes just to get Tory away from Kylie and then Kelsey fighting in the street with Megan and the gun going on between them so who was more drunk ? Who invited Tory to a party after a full day of day drinking ? Do you know what you're talking about ?
This doc is a stretch. Her star is fading and this moment was to reposition Meg back into fan support since her lies are getting exposed. Too many loopholes whether Gayle or the concert, it was all a lie.
@@adwoaboakye265 Her streaming number and ticket sales are being artificially inflated. She went "independent" but she is still being heavily supported by roc nation and its affiliates. If Jay Z Roc Nation or both fall. So will she
There are plenty of men like this in the world ladies. These are the men that will blame you because you were sexually assaulted. And they always have a woman that is willing to agree with them even though she has experience with violent crazed men. She is sitting next to 4 men blaming this woman for her own shooting and harping on one issue which is Meg did have slept with this person.
You sound a like a simp, they were mutually having intercourse.. Tory dna was not on the gun that shot her, everyone else’s was. Witnesses seen women fighting when the shots went off, the bodyguard couldn’t testify, Meg & her bestfriend are no longer friends ..u just glazing simply bc she a woman. Simple research will show u that he did nun to her
Mel too much of a feminist always trying to find a way to blame a man in every situation.. She hates to admit when a woman is wrong. That’s why Cam exposed her
lol what full context ?? She’s a liar point blank , y’all will defend the strangest behavior from your counterparts. Then will complain why no one respects y’all
@ 99% of women today are 304s… I agree with you but when all the women are 304s then what? Every woman online dresses like a 304 , they champion other 304s…. We are in the 304 Era
@@alexandro-britodacosta6325yes after everybody buys back there masters something weird always happen to them MJ, CB, Prince, Tory they tried Taylor swift but she just remade all her music 😭😭😭
@@J-Stuy LMAO I watched the full trial. They played Kelsey’s deposition before she got paid to switch up, her story matched Megan’s exactly. Before you bring up immunity with no understanding of the law, she asked for immunity for her testimony because she knew she was going to lie on the stand because she was paid to. Her immunity only covers her testimony and does not cover shooting Megan. Tory’s own witness said he saw Tory shoot the gun, the phone call that yall niggas swear he was apparently apologizing about fucking them both even though not once does he apologize to Kelsey and says he was “so drunk and Megan will never forgive him.” The videos he made chopping up horse feet, the breaking the restraining order. Yall keep bringing up DNA as if a mf couldn’t use a t-shirt to wipe the gun. Just slow asf ong.
JBP still pulling at straws on this closed he Guilty case. His jail call apology secured his guilt. Hopefully he'll reflect, mature and come out a better non-violent person. Gotta LEAVE the alcohol alone. ...Clearly can't handle it...
@@ConscienceMusiclover did he admit to shooting her or apologize to Kelsey for "how things went down" ? Do real research rather than spreading misinformation.
Ummm... just because Meg says that Tory shot her does not mean she's implying that he took advantage of her sexually. I didn't get that from what she said. Even if you didn't watch the whole doc, you can still infer from the clip that the sex was consensual. If it wasn't, why would she lie about it?
People keep daying her f him has nothing to do with anything but it does thats the whole reason her and kelsey was beefing and thats why KELSEY SHOT her not tory ! Why did she get immunity if she didnt do shit
@@LatishaAnderson89 these people so slow it crazy. I keep saying WHAT reason or motive does Tory have to shoot this woman ??? Everybody is excluding kelsey as if she wasn’t there & didn’t have a motive !!!
She still lying like she only slept with him 2-3 times. The girl was with him so much they were going on vacations together per court testimony of her stylist and transcripts. Now video evidence has shown up that she even lied about his presence on stage when he got the violation. SMH, it's sad to see all the evidence of her lies without accountability.
I’ll say this again. The way Meg tells that story it sounds like it was crafted to be told to children. No grown adult should buy that story as told. It’s make believe
So what I'm hearing is you watched part of the interview clip didn't watch the whole interview and you're OK in the fact that he was able to shoot her because she slept with him she's not obligated to tell anyone she slept with him the fact of the matter is he shot her for what reason so because someone gets into an argument with you you have a right to shoot them this is what I'm hearing
i for the life of me don’t understand how casual sex, sharing a man, arguing, drama whatever….opens the door for a gun to be pulled on you? Irdgaf what made it happen, the WHY doesn’t matter. The painting doesn’t matter. A. GUN. WAS. PULLED. She lied to GAYLE not in court it was really none of our business. she doesn’t owe us credibility. If he didn’t shoot at her, he should have said who did. That’s on him.
He never said he didn’t and made a post that Kelsey didn’t shot her but they don’t want to have that conversation. They blame the victim! Whether you like her or not she was unequivocally shot!
The why absolutely does matter. It determines motive (and whether it was premeditated) and thus determines suspects. What is it that yall dont see about that? If she'd told the truth that migh've implied another potential suspect. But Torys lawyers dropped the ball on that.
@@ellemac1001 what if, in all of her drunkenness and fighting that she wont acknowledge, she actually helped to "shoot" herself/accidentally discharge the gun near her?
@ what other potential suspect if no one else was there, and he never said he didn’t shoot her. If he did not shoot her, why did he not say he didn’t shoot her?????? quickly!!
Meg lost points to me we all know she was sleeping with Torey. But she a snake she f him and he was with her friend first?? Yea these new chicks aint loyal and have no real friends smh
Tory was dating Kelsey but decided to fuck her friend cause the friend more famous and you only calling HER a snake? Where’s the accountability? If he supposed shot Meg to supposedly protect Kelsey, why he even fuck Meg in the first place, if he cares about Kelsey so much? Again, WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?
That’s why this all escalated. Megan is the superstar, Kelsey is a normal woman. For her to get the attention of Tory lanez is a big deal to KELSEY. Only for her superstar best friend to come behind her back and take him. Again, WHY would Kelsey need immunity if she did nothing?? Why when she got on the stand, when asked specific questions about that night her response to the prosecutor was “ I’m not gonna incriminate myself. “ How would you incriminate yourself when you supposedly did nothing?? It don’t add up.
@@Dmm314Even Joe just said in this episode that Meg and Tory was out publicly and he talked to Tory about Meg. Kelsey has said several times she wasn’t with Tory. Kelsey was paid to get on the stand to say she doesn’t remember what happened, her immunity only covered her testimony. She asked for immunity because she didn’t want to be charged for perjury for saying she doesn’t remember. Immunity would not cover her if they had evidence of her shooting Megan. Y’all are slow, stop getting your news from Joe Budden and actually read.
@ So answer this, according to the transcription of the eye witness, in the court room they said they saw Kelsey and Megan fighting, if Kelsey didn’t care OR wasn’t with Tory why would the girls be fighting in the first place???
She lied to GAIL. SHE TOLD THE TRUTH ON THE STAND, where it COUNTS. She admitted sleeping him on the stand and furthermore this has nothing to do with him shooting her.
How she mad that someone asking about the shooting is asking if she was sexually involved with the MAN that allegedly shot her? It speaks to motive. She is lying about everything.
I don’t understand for the life of me how people don’t understand that the real reason she lied is because she knew that it would now point the finger even more at Kelsey as the shooter because that gives her motive and backs up Sean Kelly’s initial and court testimony that he saw the girls fighting and that one of the girls went back to the car and then he seen flashes. It would also corroborate the drivers story that Kelsey pulled that gun after her and Megan got into the fight the fight that both of them keep denying.
Sleeping with Tory does not change the facts, because plenty of women get keelled by people they're sleeping with. Whether or not she returned to that party, whether or not they had a fight, a firearm was discharged and Tory was JUDGED to have been the one that fired the shot(s). The only thing that changes this case is IF he DID NOT discharge the firearm or IF the firearm was discharged by accident. If either of those two scenarios can be presented to another judge, they should do that. That's his only route for having the verdict overturned.
More people saw that interview then watched that court case and read the transcript. More public narrative.. lying in that interview swayed public opinion that Tory was just crazy not that he was sleeping with all of them and Meg got jealous. Would have completely changed the public’s thought
Trying to justify Megan telling the truth in court but not on national tv in front of millions of ppl while crying is what really confuses me about this generation 🤔🤯😭💯
What kills me is pple acting like it ain’t no big deal that she lied?!! That’s the problem with this world now‼️smfhh mean while a man whole life is changed based off of a liar smfhhh
Hey you guys , big fan of the show , with the exception of ISH) you guys don’t have to submit to every opinion of Joe 😒 I’m confused on how 2 grown adults who are drunk and consent to sex , the consent falls on the guy 😒 we gotta stop man
& this has solidify why I hate industry men, why some people need to REALLY go back to high school because it’s not all the way there yet, and why women will never be able to do the same thing men do without being dragged though the mud.
I wish Joe would just leave this topic alone he clearly doesn’t like Meg and his cohost dont have the sense to think differently than they do in the boys club.
I have yet to hear a logical reason for tory shooting her and thats why she lied because the real motive would've exposed she was fighting over tory with her best friend at the time and she know people would look at her differently for going behind her friend's back and messing with the same man when all these details eventually came out so she should've just told the truth now shes constantly playing clean-up and I know she wants this tory situation to go away
He shot her. They could have had sex 100 times, what merit does that hold in the conversation about him shooting her? Is the implication here, that because she lied to Gayle in the interview about them sleeping together, that she lied about the shooting? This is not responsible journalism because Megan admitted that they slept together in court, which in my opinion, still doesn't matter. Her sexual history with this man does not excuse or explain the crime. I don't care how many times they f*cked, where they f*cked, the number of positions they f*cked in. He shot her.
Ppl keep saying that the lying didn't matter but it did to the case. It gives reasons as to why the shooting could have happened. At that time, it sounded like Tory just decided to shoot meg for no rhyme or reason. Unless you had preconceived notions about Tory's character, the shooting story seems random and makes no sense. If it was Tory, the situation with 2 sexual partners and alcohol might have heated up his emotions to the point he shot at her feet. Crimes of passion type shit It would also mean that someone else in the car may have had motive to shoot meg i.e. Kelsie who was sleeping with Tory but did not know her best friend meg was too Plus lying on a body is weird behaviour especially on your dead mother
It may have given reason to why he shot her, but at the end of the day…..he was found guilty of shooting her. I feel they should’ve also emphasized more in the doc that she wasnt the one who pressed charges against him. Why do we keep glazing over that fact. He couldve chosen to react in a manner that didnt involve comitting a crime….which is why he is in jail….not for sleeping with her. If a man robbed a store because his baby needed milk, do we hold that over the baby? Because that was the trigger event that led him to rob the store.
@@itumelengdlamini4174 that analogy makes no sense. The baby isnt the victim in your scenario. Furthermore, yes precipitating factors and motive do count and are considered when determining consequences and release (in no bail states where a risk assessment is done instead); and probation/parole conditions. In the dads case he might get probation and be mandated to take financial literacy classes and participate in a job training program. Compared to if he randomly robbed a place and just get sent to jail.
@@itumelengdlamini4174 actually none of the charges he was sentenced for were related to shooting her specially. But for discharging a gun whilst on a visa. Full transparency, I think he did shoot her but the case revealed enough conflicting and unclear information from both sides that I think there is reasonable doubt as to whether he did so I wouldn't blame anyone for believing he didn't do it. My point is that at that time no one understood why a gun would shoot gone off in the first place. Her fucking Tory tells us a possible reason why Tory (or Kelsie) could have shot the gun
@@preciousross6578 You're right he was charged with something else. Never for shooting her so it's still unproven if he shot the gun at her. From the case, there's enough reasonable doubt for ppl to be unsure if he (or someone else like Kelsie) shot at megs feet I believe there were reports about bullet fragments in her feet so there was a gun involved somehow
If the person that accuses you of a crime is a admitted liar how can you defend yourself if no one cares and are determined to believe that person anyway how can you defend yourself
We knew she lied …we knew 4 years ago
She lied in the clean it up clip lmao she pathological
She said on the stand, in court, under oath, that they were an item. Y’all putting all faith into a Gayle King interview.
@@cicada3437 if somebody lies once about a key item in n investigation, that means they CAN lie again. That’s the point. Don’t choose to be ignorant for this woman
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@@Dmm314so who shot her detective?
Anytime a woman has sex while drunk it does not mean she was taken advantage of or targeted.
She wanted to have sex with him, especially if it happened more than once 🤷🏽♀️
the podcast is filled with virgins except budden and that woman xD
She deliberately said that to leave room for people to draw the assumption that he couldn't have taken advantage of her.
@@p51424😑😑😑
It puts you at risk of her saying that the next day
Mel doesn’t like that the undertone of this conversation is accountability…
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Yall need to lay off the red pill smh
@@willieking3249what’s the red pill
Not red pill called being a responsible ADULT not a child @@willieking3249
These women are different in this era fellas we gotta learn how to turn them down and stay outta prison cause clearly even if we are right we still wrong.
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He was moving crazy. Trying to smash all the women in the same circle is ridiculous.
Yall say this shit like he didn’t put himself in that predicament
@@BLee09 like what that’s playa 101 only time you do some shit like that is when the girls beefing lmaoo. They was all cool and he had to fuck the vibe up
@BLee09 how bout beating up the lil sickly dude 4 not giving him dap n the middle of an assault trial is crazy
A grown woman sleeping with a man multiple times while being drunk is not a man taking advantage of her. She was indulging willingly….
Let’s not forget that she called him down to the party. Meg called Tori to the party when he wasn’t even there. She called him to the party.
Also let's not forget that she also flew out of state to go chill with Tory an that was not drunk she left her security behind
A women will get arrested faster than anything else can on earth
Also let’s not forget she called him to the party lol
@@HighFiveCinco exactly she all lies
Ok we heard you.... the 1st time she called him to the party
Its just unfair how women can get caught lying like this and its oh well... But if that was a man he would've lost all his sponsorship deals and the media would be running a story about it for the next month. But he's just a Black man he can handle it. He'll be alright right?
Exactly
Facts
Tory has a history of lying too... He lied about putting hands on August Alsina while out on bail, saying he wasn't there and doesn't know what people are talking about then the video came out... 🤷🏽♀️
@@PLANETROCKWELL this lie was about her coochie and who'd been in it when have you ever seen a man lose his sponsorship because of who he slept with,you all are weird
Save the sob story for Black men... They literally have been exploiting Black women in videos, strip clubs, prostitution, s*x trafficking and in relationships for decades.
Face the facts. Tory Lanez's outcome is not what's happening across the board to Black men.
Lying once and twice about something as important as having a sexual affair with someone that’s on the stand fucks up your creditability. Period. Stop excusing ppl who lie.
@@Djrosegoldlive and she’s STILL lying saying that it was once or twice. They’ve had sex more than twice!
Tory lied on trial for an assault case previously under oath. With video evidence
She didn't lie on the stand. She very much admitted it. She lied to Gail, NOT a court of law.
@@shannonscott6852are you really insinuating that that makes it ok?
@@Leon-bt7gw what do you mean? Are u asking me if it's ok to lie? The Bible says no, if that's the answer to your question. Outside of that, yes it was very much ok. It was none of Gail's business. Nor is it ours. She is not a lawyer or judge. What wasn't ok was her asking such a private question anyway. Has no bearings on what happened that night. Shame on Gail. And at least Megan wasn't stupid and knew not to lie in court where it actually mattered.
Sounds like people in the industry seen through the bullshit.
Saw*
lol ppl in the industry are the ones doing the BS lol that’s why
YEP and that’s why they won’t mess with her at all. She has to collab with these new artists who have less to lose than them. They are just going to let her stand on her own.
The irony of talking about “real journalism” when discussing a topic none of you have watched is fascinating to me.
@jybird12 Right, they half ass stuff all the time it's so irritating
When have they EVER claimed to be journalists . . . ?
For her little fans who keep saying why does it matter if she lied? It matters bc she a grown woman lying about something small, that means she will lie about something big. I don’t trust people who lie your character go out the window for me. Meg whole brand now has become sympathy and victim since she got with Roc nation. Meg the type that’s very manipulative. That throw rocks and hide behind her hand. You got pay really close attention to people like her they will smile in your face while stealing your wallet. That’s the vibe meg gives to me.
Jasmine are you assuming or what you are saying is facts.
Because she doesn't want the world to know her sexual history that means she's... a thief? These think pieces sound like projection. I'm not spilling my sexual history in any interview, it is literally nobody's business but my own. The entitlement to celebrities lives is at an all time high of insanity, now we're using it to make proclamations and declarations about their entire lives? Really??
Something small ? Was it small when it was Bill Clinton ?
But to be fair she admitted she sleep with him on the stand
@@jennieguardian7094Because she didn’t want to perjure herself. She knew they would prove it but to manipulate the public was sick. Because the public was attacking him and Kelsey.
4:10 NO she literally said “ he kept catching me when I was out of my mind “
She is 100 percent trying to subtly imply that she was taken advantage of. Just to put that narrative out there for those(feminists )who want to believe that. Or push that narrative. She ain’t slick. She knew exactly what she was doing with that wording.
She’s a horrible person
Women use. “I was drunk” as an excuse to avoid accountability. As if, they were both FORCED to drink and FORCED to have sex FOH
@ master manipulator just like drake.
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@@kmusa9498 leave drake out of it
She lied. That’s the end. Just because she’s the typical industry tool, doesn’t mean she should be excused for it. People love glorifying those industry tools( garden tool) Having conversations about why to excuse the lie is weird
She told the truth on the stand, so wtf is your point
@@Livies847 she only told the truth because it was no longer a secret 🤷🏽♀️
@@Livies847so we shouldn't believe anything women say until they are legally obligated to tell the truth? 🤔
@@The1andOnlyGlitch or you could just mind your business. Who a woman sleeps with isn't your business until it is.
@@lalareadyif it wasn't a secret she wouldn't have lied to Gail. She told the truth on stand because she didn't want to commit perjury.
I believe Megan has a guilty conscience because she knows what really happened none of us were there
Me too‼️ my theory is Kelsey pulled the burner out Tory grabbed it then it went off they all decided to get over it but 12 came so they turned on each other then RN got ahold of it and threw Tory under the bus
@@southernteawithbutta5526. . .That actually might be how it went down.
@@southernteawithbutta5526so why was Tory trying to paint the narrative she's wasn't shot......at all......what was the reason for that.....untruth.....🧐🤔🌝
@@southernteawithbutta5526 FINALLY somebody else see’s/gets it🗣️
Me too
The effort on this really shows!
13:33 LMFAO JOE BUDDEN!!!😂😂😂😂 “I don’t like that Gurl”
Funniest part of the video
Facts!!
She lied about fuqqin him and she lied about him comin on the stage after her...he made sure to follow the rules of the restraining order and its video proof of him doing such...its honestly disgusting and pitiful how shes scrambling like an egg in a pan to secure whats left the of public favor; it aint working.
What are you talking about what does fucking him has to do with him shooting her the dude shot her and she tried to protect him until he kept putting out all these false narratives she never wanted to send him to jail until he forced her hand
We all know he didn’t shoot her. We all know, he shoot the gun in the air. Especially when the police department, supposedly, they lost the bullet fragment. And then the medical report said, glass was in her foot. Then a second one said, bullet fragments.
Hmm, allot of coincidences.
We all knew, Kelsey was going to pop her. We all know Meg been on thot behaviors.
Everyone knew Tory was going to get locked up cause he was on probation.
We assumed, Meg would accept accountability but we all knew she wouldn’t.
Kinda like, Kamala losing the election, we all knew trump was going to win. Don’t know why folks complaining.
@@WarrenRiddle-y8qWTF you talking about?
@@WarrenRiddle-y8qWarren Simple
@@WarrenRiddle-y8q yea no it does matter unfortunately in a case like this you have to be 100% truthful of the time that you can recall all the incidents. If u go back on a previous statement and it turned out to be a lie then what else could be or is a lie within the case especially if you're accusing someone of shooting you. This was also a dispute in between three people who was messing with each other as well that led up to the incident so if she lies about having sex with one of the members involved then what really happened? If you lie even one time in a case like this it creates reasonable doubt.
"she already testified in court"
Yet she ran a 2 year campaign on the fact that he shot her because she flamed his music. She knows it doesn't look good for the narrative and in fact it exposes the clear motive that her friend (tory girl) shot at her.
@ianmoone6562 I always found the reason she used for him shooting her hilariously unbelievable. Nobody talks about it.
He didn't get charged for shooting her. He got charged for everything he admitted too. 😂
@@nakialee8436 what'd he admit to? Serious question.
U voted 4 Harris didn't u 👀👀👀🙂🙃
@@BLee09 discharging the gun in the air to break up a fight is negligent discharge. Being in possession of an unlicensed gun, and waving a gun during an altercation is considered assault with a deadly weapon. All these things were brought to court by his own defense(which is crazy af), but he didn't get charged for shooting Meg.
Saying dude targeted her when she was drunk is wild.....sounded like she targeted HIM when she was drunk
BooM 💥 😂😂 💯
Love how uncomfortable the end was. All of the people in the room are the problem she spoke about. Hopefully podcasts and journalism improve in the future. Minimal hope, but its there
🤡
@@vincesample2834 Riveting.
Tory didn’t shoot her😂
@@UnbiasedRemarks You want him so bad. I think you can schedule a conjugal visit still for 9 more years or so.
@@UnbiasedRemarks go visit him and save him. A nice conjugal visit
I see common sense just goes over a lot of people heads😔. If you just drunk sexing Tory, why drag him out the house? Jealousy plays a big part in her story… But free ☂️. I hope Meg heals mentally and one day speak the truth! Too many men and women behind the wall based off lies. 👊🏾
Exactly…and the sad part is she’s just not the only person that walks around the world lying like this…and even sadder, a lot of females relate to her because they do the same thing. LIE LIE AND KEEP LYING‼️ to the point to where now, they don’t see no big deal with someone lying period. Smfhh fucking sad ass society smfh
And she is STILL lying about fighting Kelsey that night. Both she and Kelsey are still lying about it.
Incoming Meg Defenders ….
They already in the comments “she already admitted on the stand why are we acting like this is new🤓”
@ facts, the play right there in front of the world & people still defending this woman.
@@ohthatstj074 This woman spoke the truth under oath when in mattered. Why are they pretending she did not tell the truth under the oath.
@@fionaday1336 they are not negating that she was truthful under oath, but it’s the fact she lied about it in the first place & people are now questioning her credibility as a whole.
@@fionaday1336 because prior to being forced to do so in a court, she lied on a international public platform....
1. That reached more ppl than the court case.
2. She was forced to tell the truth there due to proof & witness testimonial
Why don’t y’all watch the documentary before talking about it? It’s not that hard.
Because we don't want to . We don't believe the lies
We read court transcripts not documentaries
@@thetv3583 then don’t discuss the documentary 😂
@@fortylovestyle2789 the documentary is full of lies and it's already been exposed . A fake victim who can't stop lying . I think people should read court transcripts. The lies ,the missing gun ,the missing bullet fragments ,the sealed 911 call , nobody supporting megans lies including her bestie and even and independent witness
@@fortylovestyle2789 because we know it's full of lies by a known liar
Either way who gives AF. They violated her and she didn't press charges on anybody. She was willing to write this off as a ghetto incident. Y'all forgot when she wasn't saying anything and was like I'm not pressing charges on anybody it was a drunk night..Then the trolling started.
Y’all gotta go read court transcripts and shit. This LIE and MISINFORMATION that Megan didn’t say anything to police is WRONG. Megan went to the police 4 days after the shooting to give her statement. It was all in the preliminary hearing. She didn’t press charges so she wouldn’t look like a snitch so she let the the state pick them up.
@Forsaken860 right this trial was California vs Tory so I'm not sure how people think,this ish is mind boggling
wrong, she was talking to cops 4 days after the incident. The “lies” she cited as the reason she got on live and said Tory shot her (I didn’t put my hands on nobody, I wasn’t jealous about Tory and Kylie) turned out to be true as hell.
5:41 This is ANOTHER thing Megan keeps lying about. Megan makes it seem like they just left and it happened. No Kelsey and Megan already left and Megan asked Tory’s driver to turn around because she left a slipper 🙄 really to go back and start some shit because that’s when Kylie kicked them out. That speaks to her aggression she don’t want to admit that! Kelsey and the driver both confirmed this happened but let Megan tell it it didn’t happened they all left once and Tory shot her. Her story is VERY different from EVERYBODY’S!
You was there?
@@nikkiedavis1240there are court transcripts and police audio online. Keep up
@@nikkiedavis1240 it was witness
@@nikkiedavis1240yes, yes I was anymore questions
@ lies
Why nobody talking about the phone call. Why would meg never talk to him why he was pleading he would never do that if he wasnt drunk...... If he didn't do nothing why would she hate him and never talk to him again
He coulda meant he woulda never took his shot at kylie if he wasn’t drunk. No pun intended
He was talkn to Kelsey see Lmfaoo 😂😂 yeah sit this out also he wss sorry to kels for the wild night
In hindsight, what Meg should have done was turn up on Gayle and told her "yeah... i fucked him but that has nothing to do with what happened and i think it's pretty dirty that you asked me that" and honestly if Tory really did "accidentally" Shoot Meg, them having a sexual relationship means nothing.
Exactly. So why lie about it? That’s why it seems like there’s more lies. Because them having sex still looks bad on Tory. Either way.
Thank you and I loved Tory from the chixtapes to quarantine radio but you don’t pull a gun on a woman let alone shoot
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
People are trying to Establish a Motive.. since there Appeared to be No Motive behind a possible shooting.. the sexual affair Establishes WHY her and her Best Friend were Fighting eachother... and WHY a Gun was potentially presented.. soo then you get to WHOs Gun is it.. Who Brought the Gun etc... yall are Acting so Dense and Defensive cuz you don't want to be Held Accountable for your Sexual Choices.. lol
You always keep it interesting!
Who hasn't been dishonest about having sex with someone you regret.
Can we focus and be logical on what he was charged with? She didn't press charges against him. LA County prosecuted him. It's all public record.
Why are we conflating and bleeding the lines of this topic and what actually happened.
Girl bye this shxt! Whether you onit it or not , you cannot undo sexual acts. Period!
It’s easy for you to say some shit like that but now it’s given off the vibes of what else did she lie about?
The fact you just said lying about who you slept with is normal is crazy as hell to begin with. In her case, it's 10 times worse because people think it was her and her friend fighting because they both were sleeping with him and she's out here lying about it ever happening. Yes, he was found guilty, but there's numerous people in jail for things they didn't do and vice versa. We all know this justice system is flawed all around.
@lateshashampree exacly, shit is sad. Then we get looked at as if we're crazy or in the wrong for wanting some undeniable proof of what was said instead of just believing it nowadays.
@@lateshashampree…..you’re so judgmental,hence you’re not the topic for discussion,we talking about Meg not what you won’t do .
I wished they watched it . When Megan was saying she was out of her mind that’s not what she was referring to
She still lied
Pleading temporary insanity doesn’t justify her lying. She’s a drunk thot and I live in Houston we know her and chicks like her
@@deemommy5940 yeah but to be honest we all knew that already before she said it . When she was saying she’s out of her mind she was already mentally going through depression from everything that happened
@@deemommy5940 a lie about having sex with someone doesn't negate the fact that she was shot
@@laydeemya8932idk why more ppl don’t understand that, her lien abt having sex with him is 1 thing, but for her to get shot at an almost killed is on a whole other level
When somebody say “even if” in their explanation. Just know they’re explaining that they did it with their whole head/decision making. Lying as h#
Tory innocent
Yeah it must have been Melly who shot her in the foot huh? 😂😂😂
@@TurtleFootMiningOr maybe the girl that was fighting Megan, gunshot residue on her hands, seen with the gun and had immunity at trial.
@@TurtleFootMiningit was her friend that got immunity who did it obviously, if you’re innocent you don’t need an immunity deal plus they never found gun powder residue on Tory or fingerprints
Yet Is on her documentary leaving a voicemail APOLOGIZING for SHOOTING HER. Yeah he innocently sitting his weird azz where he belongs.
@@StreamZ1EPThat voicemail wasn’t about shooting her. It was about causing the argument that lead to it. Don’t let them gaslight you like that lol.
Public opinion doesn't matter in a court of law. Y'all want justice to be served based on like and dislike. Its silly and immature just stop it.
Have you read any court transcripts?
Have you seen a court room ?
If that was true they wouldn't have worked so hard to destroy that dude in public opinion. The fact is it is not a good look.
@@lorenzohaynes3886it’s not a good look but at the same time so what? I don’t care what the situation is you don’t pull a gun on anybody unless you willing to shoot and that should be if you or somebody else is in immediate danger.
So THEY made him beat up on that sickly dude 4 NO reason? They huh?
She lied about details of their relationship... Shooting her is still crazy.
He didn’t have any gun residue on him therefore he ain’t shoot her
@ who did? She had bullet fragments removed from her foot..
@@cookup969 Tory didn’t have residue on him, just because she was shot doesn’t mean he did it and the initial doctor said it was glass fragments
@@cookup969gun residue and gun prints two different things 😂😂 also one lie mean she lied in court
She said this when she testefied in court. I have no idea why people are pretending this is new lol
She’s a black woman people don’t care about what happened to her smh
@Liteskinblacknotmix3d stfu with this d^mb ahs comment. A whole blacc man is locced up behind her. She had plenty of people riding with her, interviews and all, so you can push the statement right bacc up your ahs.
But she did lie on tv. That's not against the law but she knew it made her look guilty. Nobody watched the whole case
she lied publicly for 2 years and then said the truth once in a non televised court room
Because if you can lie about fuckin the nigga you can lie about him shootin you
How can you discuss a topic and haven’t seen the documentary? Y’all cracking me up! 🙄
Because they know she lying. Same reason I didn't watch it.
They are reacting to the clips like everyone else was.
@@tashastalksbb1 chile these people just here for da check they don't have any journalistic integrity,take everything they say with a grain of salt 😒
I can’t believe people are still talking about this. Lying about sleeping with him doesn’t mean she lied about who shot her. What does she gain from lying on Tory?The phone call to Kelsey was damning. He was expressing concern to Kelsey about Megan never talking to him again. He said he’s never done anything like that before. I’m sure he’s cheated on women. Also he said he was drunk. I’m sure he didn’t have to be drunk to cheat. If Kelsey was his girl, why was he expressing concern to Kelsey about Megan never talking to him again? That’s all on the phone call. Just listen to it again please.
@@Rachel_Martin90 She Gained Awards & The Key To A City For Lying, Among Many Other Things (More Success Overall). U Mfs Are Dishonest As Hell Lol U Don’t Wanna Assume When It Comes To The Holes In Her Stories But Wanna Assume Concerning AN APOLOGY. Could’ve Been Apologizing For Sleeping With Best Friends, Leading Them To Fight & Mistakenly Fire Off As Well, Right? Lol Assume That, Or At Least Just Be Objective
He never admitted to shooting her Tory DNA wasn’t found on the gun and Kelsey had residue on her and the investigators found a woman’s prints on the gun and she was also messing with tory and she also asked for immunity and it was a pink gun come on😂
If you lie about 1 thing no one will ever believe you about anything else
The phone call was about him going behind meg's back with kelsey
Literally everything Megan said happened was proven untrue in court. She’s saying she slept with him once or twice. Not only did people know they were dealing with each other over an extended period of time (there are even pics of them together long before the shooting), but her stylist even said during the trial that he felt comfortable leaving her with Tory because of the nature of their relationship. She said she was shot by him from the inside of the car after being told to “dance bitch,” while walking away, which was also proven untrue in court as the entire thing stemmed from a fight that she had with Kelsey that occurred outside of the car that was about her sleeping with Tory behind Kelsey’s back. So yes, lying and down playing your relationship with him is a big deal because it shows Kelsey, not Tory, had motive to shoot her. It is also another lie she told about a situation where a man was sentenced to 10 years in prison. Credibility hugely important. Speaking to several men, even allowing a situation to escalate to the point where a gun was shot warrants an apology from that man. So I feel your perspective, but that phone call was not an absolute admission of guilt.
No Marc Lamont Hill defending that bullshit on this episode huh? 😒
That man is always defending bs
They need to drop him
Why everyone sucking Tory dck? This girl didn't even press the charges and Kelsey never cleared him.
He’s the only one with some real common sense on the pod. Y’all just don’t like that he is rational and not emotional in response. Lame asses.
@@jayjonah1227 Megan didn't file the charges. She protected Tory in the beginning. Then he started trolling her. Then Kelsey started. Why aren't y'all mad at Kelsey for not clearing things up for Tory? I'm so confused by that.
I’m tryna figure out how not admitting your sexual business on tv equates to soemthing not happening?
Because the motive for the shooting was because of the sexual business.
Thank yall for keeping it 💯‼️👏🏿👏🏿 Why Meg & her ppl don’t see that is crazy a regular person would ask that and question ALL parties years later we still don’t know what happened in that car
Y'all are sick in these comments LOL What the hell does that have to do with him shooting her? 🤦♂️
Everything. That was allegedly the cause of the fight between Meg and her Ex friend. If she never slept with him the flight wouldn't have happened.
kelsey shot her
@@25AlastorWHAT?
Right! HE SHOT HER!!!!! And I would’ve lied to they were already treating her as if she did something wrong vs Tory who shot her
@@valeo3508 Allegedly Meg and Her Ex friend fought the night she got shot. There is a video of the Ex friend going on IG Live to say she fuck Tory knowing she was messing with him and was mad salty about it
Mark 8:36-37 KJV
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
First off nobody has ever gained the whole world. Secondly, you have no proof that a soul exist. Stop quoting BS
1. Y’all commenting on things without full context. If you not going to do the true research then stop spreading misinformation.
2. She admitted she had sex with him during the trial. I don’t know why people acting like this is new information.
EVERYONE did not follow the trial on a day to day basis. She did a interview w/ Gayle that was way bigger than following the trial. So yes idiot...this is actually new information for a lot of people stupid. 😂
You think we slow and dont know that. Its the fact the she lied about it to gayle king interview. When someone lies to people you tend not to trust that person as much as you did at first.
They literally said that genius
Because for the past 2-3 years she lied to the public saying she never did
@@Tdottdot because they want to let their disdain for women and women like her be known. I can understand why certain women go around saying men really hate women. The comment section is rich! And truth be told, I am delighted they are mad ::insert Joe’s laugh:: 🤷🏽♀️ The woman answered truthfully to ppl who hold titles, not a bunch of fools on the internet thinking they’re entitled to anything
I’m seriously over the think pieces and discussions about this. Ya man is in jail because of continued violence and criminal behavior with fire arms! Let it go!!!!
Just loud and wrong 🤦🏽♀️
@ this is rich, you’re telling me I’m loud and wrong?! 🤣👌🏽 it’s all good love, he’s still in jail. Now what?
Agreed
@@honeycomb485Plenty innocent people in jail. Takes a sick mind like yours to celebrate it
@@honeycomb485 Well now he’s fighting it and it’s already being accepted…. So that’s what. And throwing in somebody’s face that an innocent man is in jail is not the flex you think it is…
Why didn’t they play the phone call that is public between Tory and Kelsey? He is essentially apologizing and it was evidence in the trial.
He was apologizing for putting them in that position by exposing he had sex with Megan behind Kelsey back which ultimately led to Megan and Kelsey fighting. Y’all rlly believe what y’all want. 😂
In what minute of the phone call did he admit to committing a crime ?
EXACTLY!!!
@@thetv3583he literally said he was wrong, drunk and that wasn’t in his character. It’s not rocket science…why would he omit the vagueness and completely incriminate himself on a recorded line??! 😩
@@ninobrown84 Again stop telling about rocket science BS ,it's simple ,this is a legal issue and we need evidence beyond reasonable doubt to find someone guilty so it's simple provide time stamps and stop telling me how you feel . In what minute or second of the phone call did he incriminate himself ?Kelsey was drunk nearly drowned and had to get sleep ,Megan's wig was falling off in the pool according to her stylist EJ and that's when they left then Megan asked the driver to come back to Kylie's house lying about shoes just to get Tory away from Kylie and then Kelsey fighting in the street with Megan and the gun going on between them so who was more drunk ? Who invited Tory to a party after a full day of day drinking ? Do you know what you're talking about ?
once! Twice! maybe on a drunk night 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
This doc is a stretch. Her star is fading and this moment was to reposition Meg back into fan support since her lies are getting exposed. Too many loopholes whether Gayle or the concert, it was all a lie.
Megs star is fading?????? Yall be saying anything that comes to your mind.
@@adwoaboakye265 Her streaming number and ticket sales are being artificially inflated. She went "independent" but she is still being heavily supported by roc nation and its affiliates. If Jay Z Roc Nation or both fall. So will she
Flopping hard! !! Combined act 1 & 2 still flopped.
I agree
There are plenty of men like this in the world ladies. These are the men that will blame you because you were sexually assaulted. And they always have a woman that is willing to agree with them even though she has experience with violent crazed men. She is sitting next to 4 men blaming this woman for her own shooting and harping on one issue which is Meg did have slept with this person.
You sound a like a simp, they were mutually having intercourse.. Tory dna was not on the gun that shot her, everyone else’s was. Witnesses seen women fighting when the shots went off, the bodyguard couldn’t testify, Meg & her bestfriend are no longer friends ..u just glazing simply bc she a woman. Simple research will show u that he did nun to her
Take that misandry out of here. Go watch the View.
get outta here with the pandering
Lack of accountability!!! SMFH
You talkin about nothin that gotta do with this 😂😂😂
Mel too much of a feminist always trying to find a way to blame a man in every situation.. She hates to admit when a woman is wrong. That’s why Cam exposed her
Why speak on it if you’re not gonna watch the doc for full context?
lol what full context ?? She’s a liar point blank , y’all will defend the strangest behavior from your counterparts. Then will complain why no one respects y’all
EXACTLY!
@@brandonpenn9887the documentary isn’t just about the shooting. There’s aspects that lead up to it and there’s life afterwards.
@@Rachel_Martin90That’s Not Relevant To The Dishonesty Tho
Man a liar is liar why y’all keep tryna make ppl look over that fuxk context it’s still lying
So.. He still shot her in the foot.. He should kept his mouth shut - she did.. The state charge him not her..
Yet another innocent black man in jail from 304 lies
And Blk women are happy about it … “WE PROTECT BLACK MEN” 🧢
Stop messing with 304’s then. Cant happen if you dont pick them
@ 99% of women today are 304s… I agree with you but when all the women are 304s then what? Every woman online dresses like a 304 , they champion other 304s…. We are in the 304 Era
This is more then just a 304 thing, the powers that be wanted him gone, they just used Meg to get to him. Jay-Z is in it somehow
@@alexandro-britodacosta6325yes after everybody buys back there masters something weird always happen to them MJ, CB, Prince, Tory they tried Taylor swift but she just remade all her music 😭😭😭
Who cares she lied to Gayle but she admitted in court. This is not about who she slept with it's about her being shot
😂😂😂 she lied in court also
@ another delusional tory fan
She lied about fucking him okay…. Yet yall sat here and ignored all the other evidence that got him convicted. He shot her, he’s in jail, period.
What’s the evidence?
The witness saying he saw the two girls fighting over the gun ? Or the fact neither his or their DNA was found on the trigger ?
@@J-Stuy LMAO I watched the full trial. They played Kelsey’s deposition before she got paid to switch up, her story matched Megan’s exactly. Before you bring up immunity with no understanding of the law, she asked for immunity for her testimony because she knew she was going to lie on the stand because she was paid to. Her immunity only covers her testimony and does not cover shooting Megan. Tory’s own witness said he saw Tory shoot the gun, the phone call that yall niggas swear he was apparently apologizing about fucking them both even though not once does he apologize to Kelsey and says he was “so drunk and Megan will never forgive him.” The videos he made chopping up horse feet, the breaking the restraining order. Yall keep bringing up DNA as if a mf couldn’t use a t-shirt to wipe the gun. Just slow asf ong.
@@J-Stuylet’s not forget that two woman was fighting and the friend had patches in the head. That’s definitely not a reason for attempted murder
JBP still pulling at straws on this closed he Guilty case. His jail call apology secured his guilt. Hopefully he'll reflect, mature and come out a better non-violent person. Gotta LEAVE the alcohol alone. ...Clearly can't handle it...
The apology was for putting her and Kelsey in this situation not shooting her dumbasss...
WRONG
@@ConscienceMusiclover did he admit to shooting her or apologize to Kelsey for "how things went down" ? Do real research rather than spreading misinformation.
Wait how did his apology do that
He never admitted to shooting her bro
Who cares? Everybody that is complaining has lied about having sex with someone also. At the end of the day she was still shot. And he is in jail
Ummm... just because Meg says that Tory shot her does not mean she's implying that he took advantage of her sexually. I didn't get that from what she said. Even if you didn't watch the whole doc, you can still infer from the clip that the sex was consensual. If it wasn't, why would she lie about it?
If you admit to lying about one thing... Should your ability to tell the truth come into question? Especially in a situation as serious as this?
@JahmBProducts not when the very thing you lied about has nothing to do with being shot. Are you serious right now?
Yess.. We are not questioning him shooting her we are questioning the fact that this woman has been lying the whole entire time about everything.
People keep daying her f him has nothing to do with anything but it does thats the whole reason her and kelsey was beefing and thats why KELSEY SHOT her not tory ! Why did she get immunity if she didnt do shit
I agree it matters because it gives a motive
why didn’t tory say that to keep himself from going to jail for something he didn’t do then? so he went to jail for Kelsey?
@@brandiwilliams007probably has a thing for her 🤷🏾♂️ it happens fr
@@LatishaAnderson89 these people so slow it crazy. I keep saying WHAT reason or motive does Tory have to shoot this woman ??? Everybody is excluding kelsey as if she wasn’t there & didn’t have a motive !!!
She still lying like she only slept with him 2-3 times. The girl was with him so much they were going on vacations together per court testimony of her stylist and transcripts. Now video evidence has shown up that she even lied about his presence on stage when he got the violation. SMH, it's sad to see all the evidence of her lies without accountability.
I’ll say this again. The way Meg tells that story it sounds like it was crafted to be told to children. No grown adult should buy that story as told. It’s make believe
THANK YOU!
Do they not go over the rundown in preproduction or the night before so that everyone can do their homework and watch the doc?
"Three timmmes a ladyyy..."🎵😂
So what I'm hearing is you watched part of the interview clip didn't watch the whole interview and you're OK in the fact that he was able to shoot her because she slept with him she's not obligated to tell anyone she slept with him the fact of the matter is he shot her for what reason so because someone gets into an argument with you you have a right to shoot them this is what I'm hearing
@@natashataylor2892 🫠🤣🤣🤣right like what is the outrage for her lying on her coochie or that the man shot her smdh
Boy accountability will still go over a woman head lol. Joe stated he watched the whole thing. The others didn't
I finally subscribed. Well deserved 🎉
i for the life of me don’t understand how casual sex, sharing a man, arguing, drama whatever….opens the door for a gun to be pulled on you? Irdgaf what made it happen, the WHY doesn’t matter. The painting doesn’t matter. A. GUN. WAS. PULLED. She lied to GAYLE not in court it was really none of our business. she doesn’t owe us credibility. If he didn’t shoot at her, he should have said who did. That’s on him.
He never said he didn’t and made a post that Kelsey didn’t shot her but they don’t want to have that conversation. They blame the victim! Whether you like her or not she was unequivocally shot!
The why absolutely does matter. It determines motive (and whether it was premeditated) and thus determines suspects. What is it that yall dont see about that? If she'd told the truth that migh've implied another potential suspect. But Torys lawyers dropped the ball on that.
@@ellemac1001 what if, in all of her drunkenness and fighting that she wont acknowledge, she actually helped to "shoot" herself/accidentally discharge the gun near her?
@ what other potential suspect if no one else was there, and he never said he didn’t shoot her. If he did not shoot her, why did he not say he didn’t shoot her?????? quickly!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is just fuckin dumb @@summerrain6125
Meg lost points to me we all know she was sleeping with Torey. But she a snake she f him and he was with her friend first?? Yea these new chicks aint loyal and have no real friends smh
Tory was dating Kelsey but decided to fuck her friend cause the friend more famous and you only calling HER a snake? Where’s the accountability? If he supposed shot Meg to supposedly protect Kelsey, why he even fuck Meg in the first place, if he cares about Kelsey so much? Again, WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?
That’s why this all escalated. Megan is the superstar, Kelsey is a normal woman. For her to get the attention of Tory lanez is a big deal to KELSEY. Only for her superstar best friend to come behind her back and take him.
Again, WHY would Kelsey need immunity if she did nothing?? Why when she got on the stand, when asked specific questions about that night her response to the prosecutor was “ I’m not gonna incriminate myself. “
How would you incriminate yourself when you supposedly did nothing?? It don’t add up.
@@Dmm314Even Joe just said in this episode that Meg and Tory was out publicly and he talked to Tory about Meg. Kelsey has said several times she wasn’t with Tory. Kelsey was paid to get on the stand to say she doesn’t remember what happened, her immunity only covered her testimony. She asked for immunity because she didn’t want to be charged for perjury for saying she doesn’t remember. Immunity would not cover her if they had evidence of her shooting Megan. Y’all are slow, stop getting your news from Joe Budden and actually read.
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@ So answer this, according to the transcription of the eye witness, in the court room they said they saw Kelsey and Megan fighting, if Kelsey didn’t care OR wasn’t with Tory why would the girls be fighting in the first place???
She lied to GAIL. SHE TOLD THE TRUTH ON THE STAND, where it COUNTS. She admitted sleeping him on the stand and furthermore this has nothing to do with him shooting her.
Kelsey shot at her. He got convicted for the gun…
It has everything to do with him shooting her it changes the motivate & the story 🤔
So, don't believe what women say until they are legally obligated to tell the truth? What about the court of public opinion???
Thank you!
Is that why nobody including her bestie and an independent witness don't support her lies ?
Why the are they talking about something they didn’t fully watch?
How she mad that someone asking about the shooting is asking if she was sexually involved with the MAN that allegedly shot her? It speaks to motive. She is lying about everything.
I don’t understand for the life of me how people don’t understand that the real reason she lied is because she knew that it would now point the finger even more at Kelsey as the shooter because that gives her motive and backs up Sean Kelly’s initial and court testimony that he saw the girls fighting and that one of the girls went back to the car and then he seen flashes. It would also corroborate the drivers story that Kelsey pulled that gun after her and Megan got into the fight the fight that both of them keep denying.
Sleeping with Tory does not change the facts, because plenty of women get keelled by people they're sleeping with. Whether or not she returned to that party, whether or not they had a fight, a firearm was discharged and Tory was JUDGED to have been the one that fired the shot(s).
The only thing that changes this case is IF he DID NOT discharge the firearm or IF the firearm was discharged by accident. If either of those two scenarios can be presented to another judge, they should do that. That's his only route for having the verdict overturned.
Long Story short.... she STILL lying 😂
Mel STOP making excuses 😂
Meg is STILL lying about fighting/beating up Kelsey that night. Why?
Because it gives motive for Kelsey to go to the car and grab the gun.
They never had a fight. Period. Tory fought both girls. Kelsey and Megan never fought each other
@@ladonnamack4030 Meg never said Tory fought anyone, even during her court testimony. NEVER mentioned he touched her or Kelsey. Imagine that.
She didn't lie in court so... 😂 Y'all want him free so bad.
She lied about him shooting her. Period. She told the truth about them having sex because it was no longer a secret
What kind of logic is this comment 🤔😭 EVERYONE wasn’t in court so lying in front of MiLLONS is still a problem tf wrong yall
@@lalareadyok your dumb the video is there for you to see she got shot n bled
Kinda like y’all want Meg to make actual good music huh
More people saw that interview then watched that court case and read the transcript. More public narrative.. lying in that interview swayed public opinion that Tory was just crazy not that he was sleeping with all of them and Meg got jealous. Would have completely changed the public’s thought
Megan lied to GAYLE, not in court though.
That affects your credibility
She lied in court too, she had to be prompted by the lawyer.
@@darrellharvey3783 credibility whatever he know he did something wrong. It was on the phone call.
Right, cause you know
Are yall serious it came up in Pardi s song she admitted in court that she slept with several men in court that’s how pardi found out
Whats the Pardi song?
I've gotta see the doc
Trying to justify Megan telling the truth in court but not on national tv in front of millions of ppl while crying is what really confuses me about this generation 🤔🤯😭💯
What kills me is pple acting like it ain’t no big deal that she lied?!! That’s the problem with this world now‼️smfhh mean while a man whole life is changed based off of a liar smfhhh
Hey you guys , big fan of the show , with the exception of ISH) you guys don’t have to submit to every opinion of Joe 😒 I’m confused on how 2 grown adults who are drunk and consent to sex , the consent falls on the guy 😒 we gotta stop man
& this has solidify why I hate industry men, why some people need to REALLY go back to high school because it’s not all the way there yet, and why women will never be able to do the same thing men do without being dragged though the mud.
I wish Joe would just leave this topic alone he clearly doesn’t like Meg and his cohost dont have the sense to think differently than they do in the boys club.
Naw you lied you need the heat! No crying
I love how much Parks DOESN’T like Mel 😂😂
Women go to great lengths in order to help each other dodge accountability
SOME......
SOME BECAUSE ITS A LIE THEY HIDE AS WELL
I have yet to hear a logical reason for tory shooting her and thats why she lied because the real motive would've exposed she was fighting over tory with her best friend at the time and she know people would look at her differently for going behind her friend's back and messing with the same man when all these details eventually came out so she should've just told the truth now shes constantly playing clean-up and I know she wants this tory situation to go away
Admitting to one lie means there are plenty other lies yet to be confessed.
Why is everybody forgetting about the audio of Tory’s phone call tho??!🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Maybe one of y’all should actually watched the doc this would actually be a decent conversation
Why can’t men just accept a woman’s truth? She literally admitted they bonded over the passing of their mothers…
Naw, Meg wrong for calling Gail out of her name!
She doesn’t, contextual meaning.
She didnt say or imply anything about him targetting her during smegs. Putting 20 on 10. She was saying i did it on some drunk ish it was nothin.
SHE LIED TO GALE KING . SHE DID NOT LIE TO THE COURTTTTT.
She would’ve if she knew she wouldn’t go to jail. Clearly that’s why she lied to the public
He shot her. They could have had sex 100 times, what merit does that hold in the conversation about him shooting her? Is the implication here, that because she lied to Gayle in the interview about them sleeping together, that she lied about the shooting? This is not responsible journalism because Megan admitted that they slept together in court, which in my opinion, still doesn't matter. Her sexual history with this man does not excuse or explain the crime. I don't care how many times they f*cked, where they f*cked, the number of positions they f*cked in. He shot her.
She lied about her sex life, she lied about tory! SHE LIED about her past tense Its all perjury .
SHE LIED
Definitely read that in my Kendrick voice 😂
No she ain’t she lied about her sex life okay and she still got shot
Meet the Megs
@@zenw.9419she didn’t get shot she got grazed by fragments
The only problem is that Tory never said he didn’t do it. I wish he would’ve voiced it a little more.
He did in court and his appeal is ongoing
I want to know what happened in the car? No excuse for shooting at a woman but there’s more to this story.
Tory wouldn’t shoot a woman. Just the thought of it will never make any sense. Shooting at a man yes maybe but a woman NAH
Thank goodness for Joe sometimes. The only person willing to publicly state the obvious and not pander to bs
Ppl keep saying that the lying didn't matter but it did to the case. It gives reasons as to why the shooting could have happened. At that time, it sounded like Tory just decided to shoot meg for no rhyme or reason. Unless you had preconceived notions about Tory's character, the shooting story seems random and makes no sense.
If it was Tory, the situation with 2 sexual partners and alcohol might have heated up his emotions to the point he shot at her feet. Crimes of passion type shit
It would also mean that someone else in the car may have had motive to shoot meg i.e. Kelsie who was sleeping with Tory but did not know her best friend meg was too
Plus lying on a body is weird behaviour especially on your dead mother
It may have given reason to why he shot her, but at the end of the day…..he was found guilty of shooting her. I feel they should’ve also emphasized more in the doc that she wasnt the one who pressed charges against him. Why do we keep glazing over that fact.
He couldve chosen to react in a manner that didnt involve comitting a crime….which is why he is in jail….not for sleeping with her.
If a man robbed a store because his baby needed milk, do we hold that over the baby? Because that was the trigger event that led him to rob the store.
You should check his charges again because he was not charged for shooting her( she wasn't shot) but that makes it even more weird
@@itumelengdlamini4174 that analogy makes no sense. The baby isnt the victim in your scenario. Furthermore, yes precipitating factors and motive do count and are considered when determining consequences and release (in no bail states where a risk assessment is done instead); and probation/parole conditions. In the dads case he might get probation and be mandated to take financial literacy classes and participate in a job training program. Compared to if he randomly robbed a place and just get sent to jail.
@@itumelengdlamini4174 actually none of the charges he was sentenced for were related to shooting her specially. But for discharging a gun whilst on a visa.
Full transparency, I think he did shoot her but the case revealed enough conflicting and unclear information from both sides that I think there is reasonable doubt as to whether he did so I wouldn't blame anyone for believing he didn't do it.
My point is that at that time no one understood why a gun would shoot gone off in the first place. Her fucking Tory tells us a possible reason why Tory (or Kelsie) could have shot the gun
@@preciousross6578 You're right he was charged with something else. Never for shooting her so it's still unproven if he shot the gun at her. From the case, there's enough reasonable doubt for ppl to be unsure if he (or someone else like Kelsie) shot at megs feet
I believe there were reports about bullet fragments in her feet so there was a gun involved somehow
If the person that accuses you of a crime is a admitted liar how can you defend yourself if no one cares and are determined to believe that person anyway how can you defend yourself