Drake Versus Kendrick Lamar Final Thoughts with Professor Skye | Podcast

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  • Опубліковано 18 тра 2024
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    Aight Analysts, I'm a big fan of ‪@professorskye‬ UA-cam channel, Professor Skye's Record Review. He's inspiring. He's insightful. And in the case of his viral commentary on Drake versus Kendrick Lamar, he's the best kind of incendiary.
    To the uninitiated, Professor Skye is a professor of French and Hip-Hop at a small public university who does music criticism on UA-cam. His channel is loaded with creative angles on the culture we love. This video on why Hip Hop is the Most Important Artistic Movement In Human History is a great primer on his perspective.
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    In this conversation we take a look at what's next in the Kendrick Lamar versus Drake historic rap beef. We also analyze who won, how much production choices played a role in audience reception, and make suggestions on how Drake can evolve his public perception going forward.
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    Life Through The Lens of Hip Hop.
    Justin Hunte is a music and culture critic and curator. During his career he served as Director of Content & Strategic Marketing for EMPIRE as well as Editor-in-Chief of HipHopDX. Hunte is the architect behind DX's video platform and creator of popular series, DXBreakdown. Along with championing Ambrosia For Head's video strategy, Hunte is also a weekly contributor to Shade45's All Out Show on SiriusXM and has been featured on Revolt TV’s “Revolt Live," Cheddar's "Cheddar Music," as well as in Billboard magazine.
    In 2017 Justin Hunte moderated the Recording Academy's panel on The Health Of Hip Hop which featured Dr. Reef Karim, psychiatrist and human behavior expert; Shanti Das, urban music executive and founder of Silence the Shame; GRAMMY nominees Vic Mensa and Charlie Wilson, and five-time GRAMMY winner Lalah Hathaway. Later that year, he participated in a debate at the prestigious Oxford Union on whether Kanye West is more relevant than William Shakespeare.
    Hunte has been the centerpiece of digital campaigns for Lexus, Honda, Brisk, and Simple Mobile and has hosted concerts and panels nationwide.
    A graduate of Wofford College, Hunte spent 5 years working in investment banking at Banc Of America/Merrill Lynch and has covered music, politics, and culture for numerous publications.
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  • @TheCompanyMan
    @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +161

    Thank you all for the support, Analysts. I'm having a blast being back in the swing of things and each of you who've donated to the linktree is making it possible for me to focus more on dropping videos. I've received a handful of donations this week and it means the world to me.
    If anyone's ever interested in contributing to the mission, feel free to donate here ( LinkTree: linktr.ee/thecompanyman ) or my cash app $TheCompanyMan.
    And even if you don't, sharing the video and subscribing goes a long way as well.
    Also, apologies in advance. Spectrum internet was down in my area so I had to record the conversation using my iphone hot spot so my visual is a little pixelated and the audio is a little delayed. Skye's fine so the conversation should be easy to follow.
    I've got an editorial calendar now and Kendrick, Game, Lupe, and Eminem are on the near horizon. Stay tuned for that.
    It's all happening.

    • @etotheipi42
      @etotheipi42 Місяць тому

      Dude Professor Skye sucks and you are awesome. This is a weird mix.

    • @chanson8508
      @chanson8508 29 днів тому +1

      Excited 🙌🏾

  • @xandertrejo
    @xandertrejo Місяць тому +127

    Like Kendrick said 'this aint a rap battle this is a life long battle with yourself'

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +39

      Probably the truest line of the entire matchup.

    • @tellmesomething2412
      @tellmesomething2412 29 днів тому +14

      That whole dissection of his ego was nasty work. Also, to start the track off with, "Dear, my enemy's son..." 😬

    • @bouncyshak
      @bouncyshak 21 день тому +1

      *Long life

  • @Seoul_Soldier
    @Seoul_Soldier Місяць тому +143

    6-point strategy for Aubrey:
    1. Don't be Drake.
    2. Lean into being an outsider and talk about what it was like growing up as a biracial kid in Toronto.
    3. Be an actual mentor to up and coming rappers instead of stealing from them.
    4. Rebrand OVO, that shit is done.
    5. Be genuine, stop using blaccent, and try to be real for once in your life.
    6. Don't be Drake.

    • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
      @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb Місяць тому +33

      You forgot no.7: Don't Be Drake.

    • @davidcici11Evolution
      @davidcici11Evolution Місяць тому +27

      He needs to find his inner Aubrey Graham.
      Y'all forgot number 8.
      Don't be Drake.

    • @allanwatima9193
      @allanwatima9193 Місяць тому +22

      And explaining number 9 which is Don't Be Drake: It's great to support upcoming artists but don't put fishy deals with the stimulus package that takes advantage of the artist.

    • @noelmartin8079
      @noelmartin8079 Місяць тому +1

      @@BacchusAurelius-yj4mb I don’t think he shouldn’t be drake I think he should just (DRaKe) 👈🏾

    • @GaganSingh-nx2yv
      @GaganSingh-nx2yv 29 днів тому +4

      7. Don't use n word lol.

  • @TheCouncilOfTheGods
    @TheCouncilOfTheGods Місяць тому +131

    This is the collaboration I didn't know we needed >>>>>

  • @EayuProuxm
    @EayuProuxm Місяць тому +199

    I like that the advice for The Drake Resuscitation Project is to do the opposite of everything he's done so far in his career.
    1. Be a mentor
    2. Don't ride trendy waves
    3. Be really introspective
    4. Admit to deep flaws

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +67

      Well when you put it that way hahahahaa!

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber Місяць тому +33

      This is like those strategy posts like "if Donald Trump wants an easy victory in November, he should consider not being Donald Trump or doing Donald Trump things"

    • @awake3607
      @awake3607 Місяць тому +1

      In group vs out group dynamics. The answer to, "Why can't I say the N word?"
      edit: moved this to where it was meant to be. Left here for clarity of the comments that followed.
      Yes the advice appears to essentially be reverse course on how he got here.

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber Місяць тому +1

      @@awake3607 bro what are you on about

    • @awake3607
      @awake3607 Місяць тому +4

      @@rudolfambrozenvtuber The words by themselves are pretty self explanatory but I understand the confusion. It was meant to be a comment to the channel based on a conversation had in the video when Coates was brought up and not a response to this person in particular.
      I made a mistake and posted here (multitasking gone wrong) lol. I will move it to where it was meant to be.

  • @issiahsilva
    @issiahsilva Місяць тому +52

    6:16 in LA is completely underrated but it was a set up jab for Drake to try to haymaker.

    • @styler3585
      @styler3585 Місяць тому +9

      Imo 616 and euphoria 1 and 2 in the beef

  • @el.blanco8961
    @el.blanco8961 Місяць тому +97

    I really appreciate people with more than one brain cell talking about music, especially when they are knowledgeable about the industry and genre

    • @daveythesearcher
      @daveythesearcher Місяць тому +8

      You know when a restaurant has a great chef? Well that's what Justin does for hip hop journalism. I remember him on Hip-hopDX. It took me a while to find him again but he's a quality level headed guy. I deffo appreciate his content and his breakdowns.

    • @Unknowngnostic
      @Unknowngnostic 19 днів тому

      It's nice to see that there are ppl who appreciate the intellectual side of hip hop. There is a huge gatekeeping sentiment when it comes to hip hop culture, which I do understand. But I don't understand why they don't like ppl who appreciate what hip hop is and what is has done. It's no different than studying ancient Egypt if you just happened to be there. Doesn't mean you want to be a part of it or pretend. Just means you recognize it's contribution. However I do understand that sentiment when ppl from other cultures try to pretend, and that's always been my problem with drake. He's a Jewish Canadian from the suburbs pretending to be an African American from the inner city. I'm surprised they don't have more of a problem with him.
      All cultures contribute to humanity. You should be proud of your culture for what it shares, because no matter who you are, you are borrowing things from other cultures. But the lines get crossed between appreciation and imitation

  • @zacoone
    @zacoone Місяць тому +28

    This has to become a series with guest appearances. Awesome collab gentlemen!

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +16

      That's the plan.

    • @joshuafetter3831
      @joshuafetter3831 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TheCompanyMan I feel like in light of the beef taking over the public consciousness, it would be cool to do an interview with Knox Hill or Scru Face Jean to talk about what it's like living a fast reacting beef since they've basically done Kendrick vs Drake lite over the past week

    • @Kruuppe
      @Kruuppe 28 днів тому

      @@joshuafetter3831 not scruface tho, he too fake. see his reaction to The Heart Pt 6? yikes - said it was "exactly what Drake needed to do". Reactors can keep it real, you don't have to fake love everything

  • @damxn7303
    @damxn7303 Місяць тому +26

    Like the ideas for Drake to redeem himself but I think it’s too late, Drake is too far gone into his own psyche….Drake just feels weird

  • @TerraFirma47
    @TerraFirma47 Місяць тому +54

    We missed you Justin! Glad to see you back posting regularly

    • @mehoo8
      @mehoo8 Місяць тому +1

      Thats how you know Hip-Hop’s been boring af

    • @TerraFirma47
      @TerraFirma47 Місяць тому +1

      @@mehoo8 totally agree. The beef stirred things up

  • @DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide
    @DucksUpDogsDownCatsSlide Місяць тому +48

    As someone from Canada, I don't know if any Canadian rappers will ever reach Drake's level of commercial success on the music charts, but I wish the world would pay more attention to the Indigenous hip hop scene, such as Snotty Nose Rez Kids and others.

  • @YetiCoolBrother
    @YetiCoolBrother Місяць тому +35

    There is no way Drake is self-aware enough or a good enough rapper to do a "pull the human card" song. Even if he did try to do it it would just be shallow and/or very selective & vague things like on "Look What You've Done" or "Too Much"

    • @junioraltamontent.7582
      @junioraltamontent.7582 29 днів тому

      The lack of self awareness really killed Drake in the beef. Dot accused him of not bein from the culture and he goes and says that wierd ass slave line. He gets called a dirtbag for trying to sleep with everyones girl, incl Wayne's, and he goes and hollars at Whitney over and over. Gets called a predator and comes with a "haha you got r*ped" bar. Drake really confirmed everything said abt him bc his ego got so big he forgot how to read a room

  • @mikeroni
    @mikeroni Місяць тому +29

    I will never get BBL Drizzy out of my head

  • @EpicPalmTree
    @EpicPalmTree Місяць тому +21

    If Drake releases an album titled something like "Too(2) Far Gone" and comes in with the introspection like he did on songs like the calm then he'll bounce right tf back

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +6

      "Too Far Gone"! Perfect title.

    • @dsario174
      @dsario174 Місяць тому +4

      Man love this comment. I was just listening to the calm. People forget, but Drake in his early days was extremely relatable. His music was him contextualizing this sudden entrance into the limelight. The selfishness that grew in him etc. The calm is the perfect example of that.

  • @maxwalton411
    @maxwalton411 Місяць тому +50

    35:12 "too black for the white kids and too white for the blacks" is an Earl sweatshirt line

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +23

      Earl The God

    • @adammarsh956
      @adammarsh956 29 днів тому +2

      @@TheCompanyMan best modern emcee of the last 15 years, hes in the GOAT coversation for mainstream-adjacent lyrical artists in hip hop

  • @KamilaShakur
    @KamilaShakur Місяць тому +18

    I don’t think Drake can really rehabilitate himself because we already know too much about him. Not gossip, we have SEEN too much weird shit. Exposing himself after he’s already been exposed against his will isn’t going to hit like that. If it’s genuine, it’ll be good for him. But it won’t make me think better OF him.

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +8

      mmm... this is an interesting perspective. So he's essentially too far gone in your opinion?

    • @KamilaShakur
      @KamilaShakur 28 днів тому +6

      @@TheCompanyMan yes but to be fair, I thought he was too far gone long before all of this. The pattern of predatory behavior & constantly attacking Black women in his music on top of his music being mediocre for years…He is who he is. And he’s rich, he will be fine. But I think he will have to live with this stain on him forever & it will affect how much people buy into Drake the brand.

  • @vincval805
    @vincval805 Місяць тому +13

    AVAA! oh, wrong channel.. two of my favorite channels colliding is a real treat! thanks to the both of you for always being so insightful, humble and always having something to teach to your audience, but most of all, for being students and not pretending to have answers to everything and having such great interactions with your respective audiences. respect! and looking forward to another collab 🙏🏻

  • @TheEphraimUchiha
    @TheEphraimUchiha Місяць тому +32

    Album TAKE CARE the weekend wrote it 70% songs taken from the weeknd that's why they have beef. He used ghost writers

    • @ihateflatbunz
      @ihateflatbunz 27 днів тому

      4 songs =70% I doubt weekend wrote a rap verse but singing joints I can hear it.

    • @sandenson
      @sandenson 27 днів тому +2

      My understanding was that Abel produced the tracks and Drake coerced him to hand them over. He wrote lyrics too?

  • @SEOshogun
    @SEOshogun Місяць тому +38

    Professor Skye does not realize that Drake has never made an album in his real accent. Even his "canadian" accent is false, taking on the slang he once called ignorant over dinner with white friends. Drake has behaved like a vulture even with Canada. I truly don't think he knows who he is and maybe secretly is fearful he is that same unaccepted kid. He would have to go to therapy to uncover the real aubrey in order to show up as the real him.

    • @notnow_stopitagain5800
      @notnow_stopitagain5800 Місяць тому +3

      AGREED.😉🌸✌️🏽

    • @kbrown3787
      @kbrown3787 Місяць тому +1

      💯

    • @makiba9461
      @makiba9461 28 днів тому +3

      Thank you. He doesn't understand black culture at all.

    • @junyathiiird
      @junyathiiird 26 днів тому +3

      There are many artists, globally, who rap in an Americanized 'rapccent' (like Travis Scott, Tyler The Creater, Eminem, Logic). There's something to be said about Canadian artists not feeling confident enough to rap in there native accent - but most of the artists who rap with their native accent remain local. Drake and Tory Lanez are replicating the music they heard the same way previous generations sounded so New York (because of 90s and early 00s hip hop).
      The actual problem with Drake goes deeper than his accent. More so the code-switching and apparent lack of respect for the cultures he's 'stealing' from - the line between inspiration and appropriation. Also the million different accents and 'colonizer' claims. Also the point you mentioned about his admitted feelings about the slang being ignorant (which can come from trying to be accepted by the white world, but that's beside the point..)😮
      I.e. "Look what you've done for me" - it wasn't his native accent but it did give an honest depiction of his lived experience with his mom. If we had more of that from Drake and didn't morph into so many styles...instead we get the nightlife, dating young girls, and mob boss Drake while appearing to use other people's styles and literally using their lyrics (in verses).
      Tory Lanez was good at this because he gave you his life story regardless of the accent - when he was around Canadians he spoke in a more Canadian accent. It can be viewed as code switching or the way some people speak in their ethnic accent or language to their parents or friends from 'back home'.
      In the next generation some Canadian-sounding rappers may crossover. "Bizz Loc", "Pressa", "Shad", "Jimmie D", all rap in their native, 'Canadian' accents - a few examples.
      This also happens when Rock artists/bands do Reggae inspired music - because most of the reggae they ever heard came from Jamaica, their songs were written and performed with their fused version of the accent. Partynextdoor, Erykah Badu, Yasiin Bey (Mos Def), Beyonce, and Rihanna have all done this with Reggae - Sting is the only band that comes to mind but Im sure there were more.

    • @junyathiiird
      @junyathiiird 26 днів тому +3

      If I wasn't clear I agree with your initial point. Just highlighting that many artists give us their real life through a performed voice - salute to the real but to some degree there are many artists that would do what drake's doing if they could - most of the industry simply follows the trends and what will sell

  • @rozsakyshki1930
    @rozsakyshki1930 Місяць тому +6

    AVAA! Grateful for Professor putting me on this channel! Great discussion… my brain is stimulated and I hope you two keep on collaborating on topics

  • @dallashanson_
    @dallashanson_ Місяць тому +81

    This will be epic. Also I’m a huge fan and would love to support in anyway. I would love to help on the production side if needed.

    • @los1945
      @los1945 Місяць тому +4

      I second this!!!! If you need help with editing that’s as much as I can help with 😂😂😂

  • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
    @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb Місяць тому +12

    I honestly think Drake is finished. He's no Kanye, I do not see a Twisted Fantasy type comeback. He may still make music but his public image has been forever scarred. It's one thing to have Pusha T call you deadbeat, it's something else entirely to have Kendrick Lamar Duckworth call you and your crew predators.

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +8

      I'm curious to see which of his collaborators will work with him again first. A drake feature isn't the same as it was before Not Like Us dropped.

    • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
      @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCompanyMan he's 100 percent gonna put out an album. I mean he has to right? The smart thing is to wash the bad taste of this from the public's mouth right away.

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +4

      He has to. Never leave while you're hot, that's how Mase screwed up.

    • @lugebeatzz8747
      @lugebeatzz8747 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@TheCompanyMan He can stay but he has to get an artist that's better than him(ability to rap but not famous) and get featured in his work as a guest. Use the inhouse producers.

  • @OGNICKMARSH
    @OGNICKMARSH Місяць тому +15

    This is a dream collab, thank you for this

  • @BensonLe
    @BensonLe Місяць тому +11

    Justin Hunte and prof Skye… a match made in heaven wtf

  • @arempy5836
    @arempy5836 Місяць тому +10

    I think the "real human being" strategy is the least likely thing for Drake to do because it's hard. The path of least resistance for him is to do a heel turn. I could see him pivoting towards the contrarian redpill circle of guys like Elon Musk and Joe Rogan. He's already moving to Texas anyways. He's going full Fresh and Fit mode, mark my words

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +8

      I can see that actually. Yeezus. What a thought.🤯

    • @DarlingMissDarling
      @DarlingMissDarling 18 днів тому +2

      Oh my gahhhh. He's already been that dude in his music and leaning that way with the persona too... but to take it from subtext to just straight text would be absolutely terrifyyyying. Prof. Skye said it right that he's already v. Trumpian so to go FULL HEEL would create some super gross behavior from his fans a la american culture in the late 90s-early 2000s. I was a young woman during that time and my gawd it was TREACHEROUS. No hyperbole needed.

  • @ErickEstebanComedy
    @ErickEstebanComedy Місяць тому +13

    So glad to have discovered both of your channels through this battle. Looking forward to your future content.

  • @jn1105
    @jn1105 Місяць тому +15

    I love both of your takes on the beef and just the breakdown of each bar with context about their life ñ. *chefs kiss*

  • @seanomatopoeia
    @seanomatopoeia Місяць тому +3

    Quick 2 step plan for Aubrey:
    1. Write a song as good as Runaway
    2. Write a song as good as Not Like Us
    Gonna need some new ghostwriters

  • @slumox213
    @slumox213 Місяць тому +16

    Collab of the century

  • @desireeeeam
    @desireeeeam Місяць тому +11

    I am obsessed with this collaboration 🥰 this is what I’m talking about!!!!!!!!! Beautiful

  • @astrotrain3332
    @astrotrain3332 Місяць тому +14

    Ah shit you got that white professor dude! I learned of both of you thanks to the algorithm during the beef. The algorithm gets a lot of deserved criticism but so happy I found you and the white professors channel!!! I never really got into in depth hip hop channels though I'm a lifetime hip hop fan. Your videos are incredible!! Much love bro!!

  • @crimsonJapery
    @crimsonJapery Місяць тому +4

    My favorite thing about all this is the recognition of producers that's always good to talk about, neither artists would sound as good without their productions

  • @whym6438
    @whym6438 Місяць тому +8

    24:57 Reminds me of one of my favorite Open Mike Eagle lines.
    "Just be a person, that’s the bottom line, be a person
    and fuck the rhyme scheme this time, just be a person."

  • @user-lf7dp8pf9n
    @user-lf7dp8pf9n Місяць тому +9

    I actually really liked professors skyes take on Drake humanizing himself by being vulnerable.
    You got to fight fire with fire, you gotta out vulnerable Kendrick if that makes sense lol. Or at least match it

  • @l.a.outkast4988
    @l.a.outkast4988 Місяць тому +20

    Noo waayy!!! Two of my favorites who are respecting the culture with their insightful perspectives collaborating together?! One Love

    • @user-fs1lc2cj5s
      @user-fs1lc2cj5s Місяць тому +6

      it’s funny because this is basically the opposite of beef, quite poetic really

    • @rozsakyshki1930
      @rozsakyshki1930 Місяць тому

      @user-fs1lc2cj5s brillant comment

  • @Imanifesto
    @Imanifesto Місяць тому +11

    The Company Man is my fave Hip Hop reviewer

  • @januskami8800
    @januskami8800 Місяць тому +11

    Ah, I'm locked in for this!

  • @intelligencecycle3523
    @intelligencecycle3523 Місяць тому +7

    Great convo Justin & Professor Skye.

  • @CertifiedMusa
    @CertifiedMusa Місяць тому +8

    I love the professors analysis of the beef whilst it was active. As he mentioned he may need some grace in assessing the cultural norms of hip-hop interaction.i don't think drake getting involved in another kendrick conflict would be ideal because drake lack of cultural awareness is evident and requires a lot of work. As going back to take style of work, it could work however Drake must kill his ego inorder to do so. I don't sw that happening.... but who knows .

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +6

      I think he should leave it alone. Kendrick was too prepared and Drake hasn't won a battle in nearly a decade.

  • @evenoddridge4829
    @evenoddridge4829 Місяць тому +6

    I'm only 730 in and am excited for this cross over I'd just like to say that modern day hardcore is also very much a sport

  • @aguyontheinternet7112
    @aguyontheinternet7112 Місяць тому +5

    Now would be a great time for Drake to drop that Vital record and try to give us a project that resembles NWTS but an updated version. NWTS was when Drake first gained mass appeal and became a global superstar. He could do an album from the perspective of "living long enough to see himself become the villain". This kind of album would include a time stamp record or two and have more records with him & 40 to restore the feeling again. Highlight members of the crew that have been along for the ride. The highs, the lows. Celebrating imperfections has always been a great marketing tactic and could turn the tide back to his fans still loving him. It would appear like he was taking the high road ("smoke before I make my decisions", that's how I take the high road").

    • @dsario174
      @dsario174 Місяць тому +2

      Agreed. Even some elements of Scorpion. This is such a good opportunity for him to get back to good content. You could easily listen to Survival from that album and it applies to everything that just happened to him now. And it was great.

  • @marsea2
    @marsea2 Місяць тому +8

    I do think this was good for rap. Earlier this year, and late last year, they were saying that sales had declined by 40%, althought a different source said overall sales of rap declined by 2%. Whatever the case, that was a very real conversation with people blaming oversaturation, lack of quality, and just general lack of purchasing to own as reasons.
    I don't know if this rap beef will result in a Renaissance of interest, and sales. I do think it helped the general public to become interested in hop hop, and music overall again. But a big part of that is bc it showcased the quality of what rap can do. This beef did cut through oversaturation by elevating the music by the best of the best.
    If we go back to being watered down, and just having random generic sounds, as interesting as they might be for studying, ppl like Glorilla don't really hold up long term to the general public. I think if we go back to songs that are unique but have little pop appeal, and songs that have pop appeal, but are low quality, we will end up back in the same place.

    • @marsea2
      @marsea2 Місяць тому

      Lol forgive typos in this. My YT is acting up and I can't edit it. 😭

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +4

      Well said!

    • @los1945
      @los1945 Місяць тому +1

      But wouldn’t the fact that Kendrick is the one winning the numbers game and actually having people researching and trying to understand his entendres point to the opposite of what you’re saying here? Don’t get me wrong I completely agree with the sentiment being made I just think that this battle and the outcome of it kind of points to the opposite. Hope you didn’t take my criticism poorly only mean to help. 😊

    • @emperorarima3225
      @emperorarima3225 Місяць тому

      Outsider here, as much as this beef shows that breaking down rap has a place in this, really the only reason all the linguists and detectives came out is because Drake is a big pop artist and he's under fire.
      So many of the people who don't care about rap are here to appreciate the quality here solely because Drake hate extends beyond hip hop. I do hope that rap gets better, but it's better to put out a lot of mediocre songs than a few great ones... Financially speaking

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +3

      I don't know man. Kendrick already won a pulitzer. He's had the linguist checking for him for years.

  • @clrs6576
    @clrs6576 Місяць тому +13

    Im only 10 minutes in, and i really think this deeper, more intelligent take on hip hop is really needed

  • @hopE-mw265
    @hopE-mw265 Місяць тому +10

    Professor Skye is like us 💯. Great listen.

    • @los1945
      @los1945 Місяць тому +5

      Someone that gets the point!!!! It’s not about race that so many are trying to make it. This is the message that needs to be spread!!!

  • @PirateCommando
    @PirateCommando Місяць тому +1

    So happy seeing TheCompanyMan and Professor Skye collabing. Hope to see more of you two ever decide to do it again.

  • @WillieEarlSon
    @WillieEarlSon 25 днів тому +2

    Enjoying you guys discussion, i had a similar idea about Drake leaning into the “yeah I’m a outsider” on his next album. Call it “AUBREY” have the cover be a collage of both his mom and father side of the family with him in the middle and really giving an introspective album. A good 11 tracks

  • @dillondewitt3952
    @dillondewitt3952 Місяць тому +19

    Yoooo! I'm so happy that y'all linked up. I saw a lot of comments (including mine) in the good professor's comment section. Hype to watch.

  • @spaniardprince
    @spaniardprince Місяць тому +2

    This was a great discussion. I enjoyed it so much, I know I’ll end up listening to it again. Tons of gems being shared by both of these men. Respect.

  • @sthlmboy79
    @sthlmboy79 Місяць тому +10

    I miss you and rude jude shows you guys had such great chemistry together

  • @Brickbrickbrickinthewall
    @Brickbrickbrickinthewall Місяць тому +8

    It’s all happening yall

  • @WuntaykTimmy1
    @WuntaykTimmy1 Місяць тому +10

    DROP IT NOWWWW
    THA STREETS NEED IT 🗣️🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

  • @Private_Madam
    @Private_Madam 23 дні тому +2

    Kendrick was so ready. So so ready that he dropped that fast. I'm amazed. I'm also thinking about what you said about Kendrick using all kinds of classic styles of rap it's its own diss. This is how steeped into the culture he is and something Drake is not. This is so layered and every time I think I've figured it out, there's yet another diss I missed. Thank you for your insight!

  • @nils3031
    @nils3031 Місяць тому +1

    It's crazy finally seeing this, it was such a interesting conversation

  • @phasang9634
    @phasang9634 Місяць тому +1

    Company man this podcast is amazing. I love the prof and watch both of you guys. What generous and insightful things you both said. Bless

  • @stargems
    @stargems Місяць тому +3

    i love this. the analysis, the passion, the meaning. thank you

  • @therealist33777
    @therealist33777 Місяць тому +3

    So, if I understood correctly, Drake now stands for:
    Drake's
    Rehabilitation
    After
    Kendrick
    Evisceration
    Got it 🙂Thanks guys!

  • @Abdulragbagsing1
    @Abdulragbagsing1 Місяць тому +1

    Hey man, huge fan. Thank you for helping us to learn and don’t ever stop brother!

  • @DiceB
    @DiceB Місяць тому +3

    Thank you @thecompanyman for having this man on he is the only one to really care about French Quebec Canada rap and producers we love him so much for it.

  • @ArmLegLegArmHead47
    @ArmLegLegArmHead47 Місяць тому

    Two of my absolute favorite thinkers collaborating was destined to be enlightening and highly entertaining. Thank you so much!

  • @bdr113080
    @bdr113080 Місяць тому +4

    Ty Justin. You cover hip-hop in a very unbiased way, and that used to be the way it was followed all the time when it came from people that reported on it with a few exceptions, but it seems like there are too many people today that want to be dishonest, and just want their favorite to be the best.
    If this was the mentality we had in 1990 everyone would’ve said NWA cooked Ice Cube in there beef because at the time NWA as a group was more popular than him as a solo artist. For the respect of the culture, you can never have the winner just be the most popular and I think when we report on the culture we need to do the same thing. We love and respect it then, and we need to be honest with it. Thank you for always doing that.

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +1

      Thats love. Thank you! I do my best to call it down the line and let people know where my biases live. Like I did when it comes to this battle. I'm not anti Drake but I am anti anyone eating off rap and doesn't respect the culture and/or the black community.

  • @Seattle_Kiwi
    @Seattle_Kiwi 28 днів тому +2

    I came to this channel because of the Professor. ❤ Then, I stayed because your channel is great. ❤

  • @GMS_MCMI
    @GMS_MCMI 27 днів тому

    Love you, bro! Been down since radio! Keep making that amazing content. 🫡👑💯

  • @nataphillipaworld
    @nataphillipaworld Місяць тому

    Ooo I’m the 7th waiter 🎉 I’ve enjoyed getting to know both of your channels. Love the commentary.

  • @ScamLikely9327
    @ScamLikely9327 Місяць тому +2

    I’ve been writing music for a little over 15 years and every time I listen to one rap song in mind blown by how many words they put into one song. They said fuck your normal song structure and spit truth with such passion. Rap makes me feel lazy as hell.

    • @embermist3910
      @embermist3910 27 днів тому

      Every time I look at the lyrics of non-rap songs it's crazy how little lyrics there are. It's generally like 8-12 bars worth of words and 4-8 bars of meaning compared to my normal listening

  • @Magma2k
    @Magma2k Місяць тому

    On the beats conversation: The snares/hihats on Heart Pt6 really reminded me of Chicago footwork more than anything... I've been out of hip-hop for a bit but it sounded like someone who'd listened to DJ Rashad.

  • @AllTheArtsy
    @AllTheArtsy 27 днів тому +4

    i actually want Kendrick to move and act as if this beef never happened. like, we know. we all know. he won decisively. with ease. no questions. just let it be that. no gloating. maybe even some remorse. because this to me is kind of a stain on Kendrick too. to expose and defeat Drake, he also had to take himself to hell. and its so uncomfotable, the means he used to do it. but i also cant fault him, because if he is convinced of the accusations he levied, what was he supposed to do? trust the police? im sorry but from real life experience, that never results in making things better anyway. at least he took the largest stage available to be whistleblowing, if that was what he was doing. the community should police itself, i want Kendrick to avoid sliding back on his growth if possible. this battle took things away from him too

    • @embermist3910
      @embermist3910 27 днів тому +3

      Exactly, there were way too many people begging for him to drop after the heart pt. 6 came out like Mr. Morale isn't right there

  • @kwookiee0504
    @kwookiee0504 29 днів тому +1

    Loved the video, thank you both!

  • @mikeroni
    @mikeroni Місяць тому +4

    The real interesting conspiracy stuff to get into is Drake’s connection to Gamma. There’s a great Reddit thread about it…even if it’s fake it’s the most interesting

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому +3

      "Your show money, tour money, merch money feed us"

  • @FLEXGODSPIFF
    @FLEXGODSPIFF 29 днів тому +2

    This is the best I’m an oldie with the company man and newbie with Skye. Feels like the perfect yin-yang no pun intended.

  • @Geminisbk3
    @Geminisbk3 Місяць тому +2

    Wow!!! I am so happy to see you two together. Fantasic video

  • @Imanifesto
    @Imanifesto Місяць тому +2

    Great discussion guys

  • @guillermobenitez9139
    @guillermobenitez9139 Місяць тому +2

    Hell yeah the collab really happened. 🎉I hope this happens more often

  • @mikeroni
    @mikeroni Місяць тому +1

    Love this collab!

  • @qyntifex
    @qyntifex Місяць тому

    amazing commentary and discussion :)

  • @maki9396
    @maki9396 28 днів тому +1

    My favorite youtube hip hop analysts in one place?! 🙌🏾

  • @da1onlynickvicious
    @da1onlynickvicious Місяць тому +2

    I love the collab!

  • @Randomthinking33
    @Randomthinking33 Місяць тому +5

    How many classics projects or great projects do you think Drake has?

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому

      Take Care and the first half of Scorpion are my favorites. So Far Gone is probably his best work from a project standpoint. If You're Reading This is really really good too.

    • @ihateflatbunz
      @ihateflatbunz Місяць тому

      ​@TheCompanyMan Why doesn't Thank me later get the praise it has high replay value?

  • @TheAustin668
    @TheAustin668 Місяць тому

    Do you still do shows with Rude Jude? I’d be interested to hear you two discuss this as well.

  • @abyss1138
    @abyss1138 Місяць тому +1

    Great collaboration! I would love to see Drake take a more personal and honest approach going forward. I just don’t know if his pride/insecurities will let him be that vulnerable. I also think he may view that as doing what Kendrick wants him to do which is stupid but I wouldn’t put it past him.

  • @jaysemitchells497
    @jaysemitchells497 Місяць тому

    31:00 the Eminem discussion is great, I listen to Deja Vu and it's really a diss track, a lot of what Kendrick says to Drake on Meet The Grahams, Em personally admits to on the song, and it's so beautiful and touching, it feels like he really wants to change it, and he has

  • @Randomthinking33
    @Randomthinking33 Місяць тому

    OutKast Stankonia is Andre 3000 at his lyrical apex along with The Love Below.
    Listening back to those albums it’s very imaginative.

  • @Imanifesto
    @Imanifesto Місяць тому +1

    Great line Company Man. He needs to come down to earth 🌍

  • @y2washere
    @y2washere Місяць тому

    nice! i saw this guys video and now here he is. I think Drake should take some Ayahuasca and then take your advice, rap honestly about his humanity in a meet the grahams style followed by a fun song that addresses the perspective about being an outsider.

  • @daveythesearcher
    @daveythesearcher Місяць тому +1

    I'm late but baby it's all happening. Appreciate you mr. Hunt

  • @wormsali
    @wormsali Місяць тому +3

    I love that you keep your locks short bro. 👍🏾

  • @TheEphraimUchiha
    @TheEphraimUchiha Місяць тому +2

    Professor Syke is DOPE GLAD YO COLLABED 🔥🔥🔥

  • @imdankarlin
    @imdankarlin 29 днів тому

    As someone who was rooting for Kendrick this whole beef: THANK YOU both for being some of the only people I've seen acknowledge why we dug Drake in the first place.
    His songs that got hyper-personal about relatable, human emotions were always my favorite.
    In addition to "Look What You've Done", he did this masterfully on "Club Paradise" and "You and The 6", the latter of which came to mind a lot during "Meet The Grahams"

  • @messifcb101
    @messifcb101 Місяць тому +1

    Drake has never made a concept album. Idk why but id love to hear him on that side. A bit more intro prospective. Cause he has soooo much material to talk about the phases of his life. And just grow with his audience and teach them some game.

    • @TheCompanyMan
      @TheCompanyMan  Місяць тому

      Id love to hear what a Drake concept record sounds like.

  • @User2637dsk
    @User2637dsk Місяць тому +3

    Good link up 🤝

  • @saarthakpachauri1811
    @saarthakpachauri1811 Місяць тому +5

    Great collab, next time invite fantano too that would be fun ..all three of you discussing about how u got into liking hip hop,ur fav MCs and fav albums.

  • @mrduckett4006
    @mrduckett4006 Місяць тому +1

    Great conversation

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 Місяць тому +1

    Love this collab

  • @TreFKennedy
    @TreFKennedy Місяць тому

    Dope vid/Stream Justin

  • @Kiki-xx3fj
    @Kiki-xx3fj Місяць тому

    I have no idea what Drake has planned after this but I think the suggestion for him to do a new Meet the Grahams is genuis!!! He would have the opportunity to completely rewrite the narrative.
    Also, when Em said "how racist but dope the X Clan's tape is" he was talking from a 16 year olds point of view. That's how old he was in the story he was telling on that song

  • @beyondthabottomline5498
    @beyondthabottomline5498 Місяць тому

    Great convo

  • @rakeemkoroma2398
    @rakeemkoroma2398 Місяць тому +1

    collab of the century

  • @btonyh5878
    @btonyh5878 24 дні тому

    Drake's side on the posse cut= Lupe, Game, Sexyy, Nicki, Breezy, Yachty, 21, and PND throwing some Weeknd type sing shots

  • @tadeuandre8699
    @tadeuandre8699 10 днів тому +1

    How Drake Will come up this:
    I think he should go the “my beautiful dark twisted fantasy” route. Not just runaway. What I mean with this is, his best And the most human project.
    He also had to rebrand OVO finding the best new talent possible, the More Toronto based the better.
    But I really think he Will never talk openly about his ego, or talk about how it was being a bi racial kid from Toronto again.

  • @YAFUGGNFAVE
    @YAFUGGNFAVE 23 дні тому

    Blessings brother 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @seanjjpaul
    @seanjjpaul Місяць тому +2

    Legendary collab