They knew and he knew they could not heal. all except dummy's and there dead dog duke knows it.Scripture stops healing after newcovenant and faith if the read it.
@Daveon Smith What some one knows about and read about in full context of the matter is more brilliant than any Idiot who dare call any one Stupid. It shows greatly in reality based by your biased opinion and flowed low grade replying ignorantly Stupid.
To me, just trying to escape was a selfish no-brainer. Jones was an easy mark. Someone could’ve offed him long before Leo Ryan’s visit and the senseless loss of life that followed. Although It may have also ended badly with a machete to Jones’ neck, there’s a chance it would’ve ended the total madness right then and there. He had his loyalists, but seemingly no one capable of taking over with his decapitated corpse lying there. So many more than we know wanted the fuck out of there. They probably would’ve cheered his murder and celebrated his killer.
@@johnaddeo2251 it seems that way, but then again, all hell might have broken loose and his security forces would have killed many as a reprisal. But yes, it would likely have been less dead. It's so sad.
@@jamesb.9472 No. The boy who survived's name is Thom Bogue. On the jonestown website he wrote an account of what he and his best friend went through when they tried to escape, and what his friend said the last time he saw him alive. It's harrowing. The boy who died apparently wanted to go with Leo Ryan but his family didn't, and since he was only 17, Ryan wouldn't have taken him. He and the others wouldn't have known they were all about to die.
@@FrankJohn what was the climate like at the time this incident happened, how was the response from the citizens of Guyana, was there alot of publicity, was there alot of anger from the citizens of Guyana because this left a stain in your country?
@@Indigostarflythe Guyanese people, for the most part, didn’t care. Their rudimentary lives were going to continue on the same trajectory regardless of what happened in Jonestown
Ive heard many Jonestown and jim Jones recordings but I find this one of the most frightening, imagine the entire community and its leader all wanting to punish you , just for wanting to leave, truly sinister
@hughiedavies6069 I've also been listening in horror to various Jonestown recordings. But after a while I just had to stop listening to this one, because it was so disturbing.
@joshuagerthoffer2321 yeah, I would have definitely been one of the Peoples Temple defectors back in San Francisco. From early on, coming from the South (Georgia) I was brought to never follow and put faith in the preacher, but put faith in the actual they read from, and after chuch, I was brought to read the Bible for myself. Unfortunately, being born in Atlanta, Georgia in the late 1970s, us Black folks from Atlanta had another situation going on in 1970s through the early 1980s, outside of the AIDS epidemic, which was the Atlanta Child Murders. I still think Wayne Williams was the only one involved in that.
Thom Bogue was one of the boys. It was his mother that wanted to shoot him, then herself. Imagine how betrayed he felt, hearing that out his mother's mouth? He survived Nov 18th. He speaks on documentaries how he ran into the jungle and found a native of Guyana who got him out and safe.
@@henrybemis8913 - They were almost all delusional in terms of currying favor with “Dad” at any cost. However, they were all expendable and branded for death. How could anyone there make any sense of this. It also strikes me that a lot of the women were nasty, outspoken and fouled mouthed. These were supposed to be disenfranchised people, looking to live in peace and brotherhood. They sound like women fighting at the checkout at Walmart. Women are supposed to be the nurturers and peacemakers, if you listen to these recordings, a lot of the time they were anything but. It makes me feel even sadder about this terrible occurrence.
Wasn't his mom edith Bogue? You can see her speaking to Jones on the ABC news reel where she was leaving with the defectors... I can't imagine her telling her son that.
@@kacyrozier517 yes you're right. Apparently the Bogue fam tried escaping prior to Ryan's visit but got caught planning, so waited out for Ryan. She hasn't spoken out about anything. Jones had her sign countless blank pages no doubt confessing to crimes she hadn't done. She prob yelled at her son to fake prove she was still on side with Jones.
there was also a tape where he had his people beat on a guy who raped a 12 year old girl. Which i totally get but he’s raped so many of the men women and children.
When Jones literally and figuratively threw away the Bible during a sermon and told his congregation that religion is bullshit, that it was simply a means for an end for him, they cheered and shouted their support. As Jones blasphemes God they whoop and clap merrily.
@@TonyMichaels166 Jim was a deranged narcissistic pervert. It's unfortunate that there'll always be people in the world who are that blind and gullible. I just feel sorry for all the poor kids that got killed as well because of all that insanity. Their parents and guardians failed them miserably.
This may sound bad, but the more I hear these rambling tapes of Jim and the horrible stuff he did to his followers, the more I understand why some of them drank the koolaid. Cuz I'm sure there were some who drank it not because they really wanted to or even believed the BS Jim spouted out, but because they were probably so tramautized by that point and depressed, probably also saw no other way out. Most of the people who did try to fight back died anyway. It's so heartbreaking.
Yes. Survivors even felt like that and said you work in the field all day with Jones on the intercom, food is gruel (bugs in it), no protein, then all attend all night meetings past midnight. A percentage are like, "Fuck it." No escape.
@@trissloan2340literally his “meetings” would go on for hours and hours even after working in the hot sun for 12 hours I would’ve drank the flavor aid too at that point.
Allllll this time I thought these folks were seduced by a religious cult. This may have been a religious cult - but it was also way more political than I realized as a child. And I NEVER would have guessed Jones and his followers cussed like sailors. I just thought it was way more “clean” than it was. Thanks so much for posting these.
All he preached about was equality and socialism. Very bad language and most his follower held him up to a God level. He told them one time if they all died he could bring them back to life.. in the death tape you can hear a woman giving her testimony saying "he (Jones) is the only God" it was all around fubar these people want to kill people that want to escape.. total brainwashing and demoralization what he is doing is making them feel guilty to the point they are convinced they deserve to die and then he spares them so they will feel like he is merciful gaining their trust and loyalty..
Right, I thought it was a religious cult with good intentions. As I learned more I see these people became evil right along with Jim Jones. And the one that didn’t were in a sense held captive.
He knew who he was dealing with. Religion is mostly a ruse to get people to feel better about themselves. It was a Marxist cult filled with greedy, and power hungry people. Jones knew how to talk to them and what language excited them. Nasty and foul is what they craved. All cons follow the same guideline, let you believe you are doing something good for others (the BS layer on the top), while enticing you with what you really want (the true intent) beneath that. This gives people a permanent out, they are helping and doing something positive, and you are just a bad guy.
It really depends on how much he revealed* and how soon. Did he have gnnmen in America? If he did, I don't remember anybody saying he did. If this was the case, people should have left in droves back then. In Jonestown, it was probably too late(unless you wanted to die)... *At first, he claimed to be a Christian minister that accepted black people. And, supposedly, he was convincing. Gradually, he morphed into a monster. But, according to a doc on him, at all points in his ministry, he was always either a hypocrite or an obvious cult leader!
Been going down the Jim jones rabbit hole on UA-cam and came across this video. I kept hearing jim say “the cat of nine tails” and had to google it. Smh 🤦🏼♀️. Those poor ppl.
You should read Toms story about what he and his great friend Brian suffered there. Not only there, but years prior in San Francisco. It's literally like Papillion. Tom also paints a pretty nasty picture of Stephan Jones as well. He was not this sweet, rebellious kid who fought for others. He was a narcissistic bully who terrorized the younger people there. Of course they will tell you everyone is equal, but of course thats bullshit. The Leaders kid will always get their way, and surprise, they both survived.
Yeah two or three out of like ten? Yeah they REALLY got there way. I see Jim Jones is still turning people against each other even from the grave. He did that to those kids, what more do you expect? But we don't think anything of his own mother doing this to him as well? They're ALL victims Stephan was brainwashed just like this man's own mother. Please don't play the blame game these people have suffered enough.
@@shipoopeeeeeeeee There are several interviews with Tom. He also wrote an article about it and there is a link to his story on the jonestown dead and survivors list. He and his friend were dragged into Peoples Temple in San Francisco by their families. They were young teenagers when they met there and both didnt want to be there. They actually escaped at least once in San Francisco only to be turned in by relatives. I would just search his name and it should come up. But its been years since I read it. Tom is now a local politician in his city. The other one (Brian) was essentially broken after he and Tom were caught in JT. Tom is the one Gosney was talking about who was "terrified out of his mind" and was too scared to join in on Gosneys plan to pass a note the Congressman. Brian was killed at JT along with his famly whereas Toms family was able to get out.
Jonestown is a lesson for everyone: it doesn’t matter what language people throw around. Jim Jones convinced PROMINENT politicians that he was on the “right side” simply because of what he preached. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. More often than not, that enemy is merely another enemy.
Jim Jones did amazing things for the disenfranchised of the inner cities. He just went power mad and of course the drugs didn't help... But he wasn't always so crazy. That's why he had such devoted followers - because they knew him when he was still doing good and then the slide into madness is tougher to see when it happens gradually on the daily.
Exactly. That's why people ask me do I go to church yes but I don't go to any church. People reading to The Bible things that are not really in there. No one absolutely no 1 knows what color jesis what color Jesus or God is. Not the Pope not Is mother Theresa no one.
I was gonna say, the only good thing he said was this! I would have laughed if it wasn't so upsetting. But in a more light-hearted situation, I will be using that line.
Remember these were two teenagers that didn't choose to join this cult. They weren't criminals either. They were two underage teens that just wanted to live their lives. Yet here they are being called racial slurs due to nothing but their skin color. They were being held prisoners there and were being jeered and threatened by a group of adults that included their mother. A mother who said she would kill her son.
Yikes... Not even 10 minutes in and I'm already triggered. I can't imagine being stuck in the Jungle listening to Jim Jones' mythomaniacal verbal diarrhea day and night. His voice, his self- absorption, his confident stupidity and deluded sense of self-importance are clearly illustrated here. Textbook narcissist. Thanks for posting this, it really shows the fear that people had, the depth of his madness and his control/manipulation of the people.
It does trigger u automatically cuz it’s just so bull shit for one mind to take . All the ppl who believe in Jim jones deserved to die for sho I feel bad for the ppl who wanted to leave and live and all the poor kids smh I hope all the bad ppl are in hell where they belong ..
Exactly and look how hes talking not only is sees talking to those 2 boys. He's talking to everyone in the pavilion just in case they're thinking about escaping. And most of the stuff he is saying is not true. If the slaves got away these people could have got away. All you need is that 1 person to have sympathy for you.
Here's a fun fact. The first voice you hear in this clip is Stephan Jones, Jim's son. Just as mean and evil as his dad, the would partake in punishing those who dared to oppose his father. Stephan survived the mass-murder because he was taking part in a basketball tournament at Gergetown (in fact, he was watching a movie while the event took place). He was never punished by law for anything that happened in Jonestown. In every interview he has done since, he acts as if he was a victim.
Shame on you. He did nothing mean or evil in this audio. Are you upset that he used cuss words? Oh my heavens! He sounds genuinely concerned that the runaways could’ve dyed (sic)
@@kevin6293 Brother there are over 1000 audio recordings from Jonestown. Those recordings include a recording where Stephan attacks a child for attempting to escape.
Wow man they couldn't gotten out of that place even if they wanted to. This guy was hugely connected. They unfortunately sealed their own fate leaving with this mad man. A cat of nine lashings?? Wow man that's horrifying
He was making it all up. You think a poor country like Guyana had 15 different police forces? You think the Russians were really going to risk a nuclear war over 900 Americans under the rule of a drug addled fruitcake? How many black American Russian refugees do you think there are? Jonestown depended on government checks from the United States government. They couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone. They didn't even have enough housing developments .
Imagine the level of Therapy you would need from being involved in a cult like this? Everyone is so full of hate. Everyone is tearing you down. Everyone is talking down to you, belittling you, that would be enough for someone to realize that this is not ok. It's like they're all brainwashed to be hateful. My self-esteem would be tremendously low if I were around and survived this. This is awful.
@@dannyhooks9960maga? You guys are the ones who love marxism and Socialism, Race based politics. You literally have more in common with his ideology 😂
I wanted to take the time to thank you for all the work and energy that you put into this. It's a heartbreaking hearing some of the members being so evil I think that they may have done that to stay on the good side Jim Jones
Yes thank you! Iam on your channel all the time for jonestown. I listen to them over and over. The whole thing is just mind blowing there is so many layers to the whole thing.
@@JamesJames-qj7xr I I agree I don't even know why I got started on watching these videos about Jonestown I've obtained a lot of information from watching these videos no matter how many years go by it's still baffles my mind on what happened there
@Zahara Greene yeah it's something that I will never forget he was such a monster even as a little child he was definitely evil I often wonder why he recorded such hateful situations to show the world that he was definitely a devil and the death tape that is the scariest real life recording that I've ever heard in my entire life and if you listen to some of the tapes his laugh is definitely demonic all them people were trapped and if you did come he'll get out some of the people ended up dead in mysterious ways I'm ready for the results I imagine that he kept a lot of those people drugged up all they got was rice three times a day with bugs in it for someone to turn families against families is so horrible
How do you know it's Stephan at the beginning? (I'm not doubting, I'm just confirming what I've noticed from some of the survivors who seem to have revised history and minimized their own involvement in this story)
@@ma3stro681That's irrelevant. Doesn't matter where on the political spectrum you started, once you've got an authoritarian leader, this is the result. Sane people don't want that kind of power. Even today, there's people who willingly choose to put authoritarians in power.
@@Indigostarfly I was born in a cult on Geary and Steiner SF CA 1978. Brian maupin, my child trafficker calls himself THE REAL BRIAN Jonestown massacre. He owns a company called CENTRELINK silicon valley. He was training me how to target kids with matching names for his team of organized crimes. My family and friends were identity frauded and murdered. I refused to participate and started reporting to police. My life has never been free of funerals and poisoned to death pets thus far. All the kids in my family are being tracked and harassed.
I saw an interview with Thom Bogue years after it happened and if I recall him and Brian were chained together for 3 weeks to complete hard labor 18 hours a day as part of their punishment for trying to escape. It was just heartbreaking to hear him also describe the last time he saw Brian alive Thom was one of those leaving on the plane with Congressman Ryan's party. He turned and said to Brian please come with us he said Brian just looked at him and simply, sadly said I can't. That was the last time Thom ever saw brain alive. Thoms first-hand account of his time at Jonestown was also featured in the book A Thousand Lives by Juila Scheers.
You just got a new subscriber, Sir. Thank you! In response to one of your comments, I still care...VERY Much So. The massacre occurred during my Junior Year in College. Many of those who perished were my peers. Felt as if I shook my head for a very long time afterward trying to understand this whole situation. Still not sure I do to this day. Cheers, Blessing and All Best, Sir.
Wrong guys on the thumbnail.Thats Stanley Geig ,tractor driver and airport shooter and his brother Clifford Gieg trusted member of Jonestown who worked on the boat Cujoe.
A 36 foot long anaconda who can crush a horse in seconds? Jesus divorce court. He really had those people controlled. Tigers, snakes, panthers, everything on down. I’m glad I wouldn’t want to live in that horrible place.
I work for a small company, and the owner has the same power over everybody as JJ did at Jonestown. It's very strange, it feels like a cult and you always have to watch your back and what you say. It's amazing how people are so willing to bow down to another human being.
Jones is exactly why I work for myself there’s evil people like jones who own buisness an they only want to own it to mistreat others there’s evil humans like that
exactly. Big powerful companies today will haul employees in to "HR" for saying something "politicallly incorrect" or "racist" or "sexist" and no one stands up to it, so the exact same thing happens every day as JJ, group harassment, fear, insecurity. And even in your situation in a small company too. People need a paycheck, but after awhile, that type of system breaks down.
I worked for a company over a summer and the boss and his wife were awful. They were like Gestapo. They treated their staff like slaves, begrudged people their half hr break. They way they spoke to staff was disgusting and their employees were afraid of them. After a month of working in these conditions I decided enough was enough. I rang the manager the following day and told him I wouldn't be returning to work and gave him reasons why. Hè listened and said I wasn't the first to feel this way and he told me not to leave but to speak to the boss. The boss rang me up after speaking to the manager and I told him EXACTLY what I thought about him and his wife and I did not hold back. He listened and asked me to come and see him in work. I went in to work and reiterated what I had said on the phone. I told him yes I needed money as I had debts but I didn't want it that much to put up with his horrible behaviour. He listened again and apologised for his and his wife's behaviour and thanked me for setting him straight. He asked me not to leave. I stayed for another 2 months before leaving. When I left he bought me a leaving present and card and thanked me for my hard work.
Jesus Christ I can’t imagine how terrified these two must have been. Why on earth would they want to escape? Gee I dunno, maybe it’s got something to do with how you’re speaking to them upon their return. It sounds like he spits on them at 22:07
He broke at least nine of them. He might not have worshipped any graven image. If he broke nine out of ten, he's pretty much at the top of the class. Not a class I'd want anything to do with.
Imagine two innocent boys being terrified and terrorized this way. I have a son the age of these two boys and this is just so heartbreaking to hear these boys speak and Imagine my son in that kind of situation. I'm so sad. Especially Tommy's mom say she will shoot her son.
Jim was not the only one responsible for the death of these people. I question how do people follow a psyco like this. The human condition is a mystery.
The mother tried to escape 2 months prior so I honestly believe she was saying that stuff to "appear" to show loyalty. I feel like she was part of the escapee plan
Jones literally and figuratively threw away the Bible during a sermon where he told his members that religion is bullshit and was simply a means to an end. As he rants against and insults God the congregation cheers, claps, hollers, and wholeheartedly supports his blasphemy.
Nice try. 🙄 Always trying to distance yourselves from your bad actors. Maybe that happened, I don’t know. But we know FOR CERTAIN Rev. Jones ran a Christian church for years before doing this crap. He and his followers wanted to create some kind of Christian socialist paradise in Guyana. As all dictators, he became drunk on his own power, and bought into his own BS. Look up “Liberation Theology”- nothing but Marxism and Christianity. Look up “Distributism”, Catholicism and communism. You try to blame non believers, but that is more lies and propaganda
exactly. When people say it wasn't until Guyana that he turned bad, but he had already shown his contempt for religion in Redwood Valley and San Francisco and the members fully supported it, so they knew what he was and what his agenda was.
On the Jonestown web site there is a recollection by Tommy of his friend Brian. I thought Tommy left with the defectors, but possibly I am wrong. His recollection shows how he felt to bid his friend goodbye. Brian died on 11/18 along with the 900 others .
I read that, it's one of the saddest articles on that site. Brian apparently wanted to go with the defectors, but he was only 17, and apparently couldn't leave without his family. Congressman Ryan probably wouldn't even have taken him since he was a minor. I don't think any of them knew that anybody left behind were all going to die that day.
It's like drug addiction, really. You'll never get the same euphoric feeling, to the degree that you felt it in the beginning. But you can't walkaway because you desperately want that feeling again, and what's left is all you have...
Jim literally sounds and behaves like the us government and elites do today,it’s uncomfortably similar on how we were treated during the pandemic and plans that are put in place today.the fearmonging the psychological condition…
I feel SO sorry for the children & babies that died. But after decades of feeling sorry for alll these folks, after listening to this, maybe it was not a great loss!
I’m baffled at how they don’t even know how hateful, irrational, and hideous they sound and why being in the bushes woulda been better than being in their presence. The evil in all the people condemning them is telling…a place that’s supposed to be loving, caring, and helpful. One of the grotesque things I’ve ever heard
You can hear Jim jones son Steven jones and he talked just as bad to these poor people as his father and he’s still alive and acts so sorry but I think it’s a joke
This makes me perplexed as to why people moved to Guyana. Even before they moved there, Jones was showing red flags. He constantly abused members, sexually, mentally, physically and it was known knowledge. He raped men and women, he’d beat on people to “punish” them. Why did they think things would get better after moving out there? I know they were brainwashed into believing that Jones was some sort of messiah and that he knew best but still… It always infuriates me that parents brought their children to that environment after seeing numerous red flags. I mean they LITERALLY practiced drinking poison even back in the U.S, why would they think Jonestown would be a safe environment for their children? It makes me mad just thinking about it. I still think most of the people there were victims to Jones manipulation and mind games but still, I just wish more parents used their intuition and common sense.
I had never heard any other recordings of Jones aside from the death tape. The stark contrast here in his voice shows how much he deteriorated physically and mentally being treated as a god in this cult village.
We had to write poems in a creative writing class in high school. 25 tragedies were put up on the board we had to pick one. I made the mistake of asking the teacher what Jonestown was. A few years later in college, it was covered extensively in an elective I took on occupational behavior and how people can be brainwashed. As a human being, I’m glad I know. But this is a story. I wish I could forget.
I simply couldn’t imagine, just turning on each other and speaking hate as Jim continues to rile them all up. He was a demon for sure. Once they chose to come to Guyana, that was it smh.
There is a website, San Diego State University Jonestown, that has archives of letters to Jones from congregation, stories from survivors, and much more.
I heard Jones’ ashes were scattered at sea… it’s sad that he gets a better burial than most of his victims… love to all the victims and their family members💕
He did die that day from a shotgun to the head either self inflicted or from one of his aides. His ashes were scattered at sea to avoid ghoulish grave visitors.
Would it be possible to get some captions on these photo? I have watch a ton of stuff on Jonestown and some of these photos I have never seen! Enjoy the content from your channel!
jim jones and his regime was no more communist than he/it was christian. he just cynically paid lip service to these concepts that were popular at the time to serve his diabolical psychological needs. it was narcissistic control through a cult- thats all
To think these people thought he was the embodiment if Christ. The lies and manipulation, the sleep deprivation. He was a master story teller. Starvation, working like slaves. Yet we see it time and time again. People falling into that trap.
Thats Stephan Jones at the begining speaking, the two boys are/were Thom Bogue (lived) Brian, Thom Bogue wrote this account on the Jonestown Alternative website, Stephan was a different man bk then, took part in the punishments, also speaking are John Cobb (security) Stephan Jones. This is sickening, I admire Stephan now, but he was under his fathers influence bk then, tried to protect him, once yhe suicides occuŕed, it Jim's hold over Stephan broke and compassion came over him, he was shell shocked
The people Jim recruited were often from poor backgrounds lots of trauma and some drug takers. Old ppl gave the cost of their homes to him. In general alot of the ppl who went there were desperate, lonely, had a record and mental illness.
Crazy how dumb these guys were to let one man completely manipulate them so perfectly but then again is it any different from us listening to old politicians an doing what they say absolutely not so we can criticize them because if a war breaks out you will send you kids to die an not stop an say why should I send my son to war the reason the government gives you is to protect your country but when did you or your kids start a conflict over seas ? Who’s causing the over seas conflict it’s definitely not the American citizens
This man was no Christian. His religion was very political. He used religion as a disguise. He preached the gospel according to Karl Marx, Mao and Lenin. He preached Socialism. That was his religion.
As bad as this is the White Night with Willie Malone is even more intense. Malone was a streetwise young kid from L.A. who made the mistake of mentioning George Jackson which really set Jones off. Jones's son was there like in this clip piling on.
We’ll put yah in duh fuckin’ box wid duh frog tonight, THEN see if you can stay away from duh frog. ONE touch of the FUCKIN’ frog. How bout dat, Willy Boy? Big old gang land Willy Boy. How bout- how bout goin’ in duh box tonight wid duh frog?… How bout duh frog? Why don’t we get the frog? Why don’t you put your hand in there with the frog?… that’s YOUR problem. You touch the frog, you’re dead. How bout it, Willy? How bout it, Willy? Wanna touch the frog tonight, Willy? You PUNK. You GODDAMN GANGLAND PUNK… If you do want to die why the hell don’t you just take the goddamn frog?… So you’re not afraid of dying, huh? Why don’t you take the frog then? What are you gonna prove by that, big man? PUNK. What are you gonna prove by taking the frog and dying tonight?… If you do want to die why the hell don’t you just take the goddamn frog?… The frog- is he a capitalist? Is the fuckin’ frog a capitalist?… you think that being brave is in and itself- it means not shit, worth nothing- unless it’s connected to socialism, and you haven’t got it connected to socialism… So you’re gonna be tough and take the frog? You want to take the frog? I’m getting sick of this. I said do you want to take it? Cuz the frog, ya know- if you take the goddamn frog ain’t nothin’ in the world stops it. Anyone in the world can pick up a frog once and take a fuckin’ frog. Ain’t committed no crime.
I tried looking up the people who tried escaping back in '77, and there are no names, or no real mention of this incident other than this recording. I'm interested to know if they wound up dying the next year or not. If so, that's one of the worst things about the whole thing. That they were aware that they would probably suffer some horrible fate and were ALMOST out, must've been like.death before the poison.
They're names are under the more icon under the title of video. There is a website San Diego State University Jonestown that has archives of letters people wrote Jones, interviews of survivors, bios...
Not to be insensitive to those who lost their lives but......why do these folks sound so angry towards teenagers who tried to escape this non-existent paradise? Everyone’s screaming profanities like they’re trying to impress Jim or something. No individualized thinking what so ever 🤔🤨🧐🤭They should all be ashamed of themselves, treating each other with such blatant disrespect & aggression, hostility, awhile screaming obscene profanities. Where’s the Love!?!?!? Especially towards the youth & seniors.
@@ivanabear8824 Being brainwashed is still no excuse. That you would happily execute your flesh and blood because someone tells you to, is a level of evil nothing can touch.
Pure social psychology, Billiejean. The crowd baying for blood, empowering lunatic Jones & yes trying to impress & save their *sses by feeding his ego. Sadly the children are the only innocents in this as they didn't have a choice. Without those adults there's no ' Jim Jones ' .
@@msrain1235 that's socialism. Only the people at the top collecting everybody's money and distributed to the rest, at their discretion, while they keep the rest!
He has millions they all gave him all they property houses cars every thang and he starve them ppl feedin them only rice they say he had lot of weapons gun money all was found there after they died them fools still stick up for him they was stupid
And he and everyone else stated on cam they were free to leave if they wanted…LIES. A very brainwashed people…it’s fascinating.” But disturbing all at a once. Edit: wow, I thought these were peaceful, loving people. Boy was I wrong. Feel a little less sorry now.
It shocks me they needed nurse's or doctors when Jones could heal 🧐🙄
Cancer? Cured! Diarrhea? Sorry.
They knew and he knew they could not heal. all except dummy's and there dead dog duke knows it.Scripture stops healing after newcovenant and faith if the read it.
@Daveon Smith What some one knows about and read about in full context of the matter is more brilliant than any Idiot who dare call any one Stupid. It shows greatly in reality based by your biased opinion and flowed low grade replying ignorantly Stupid.
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It's absolutely tragic that only one of these two boys made it out of there alive. They deserve credit for trying to escape that nightmare place.
To me, just trying to escape was a selfish no-brainer. Jones was an easy mark. Someone could’ve offed him long before Leo Ryan’s visit and the senseless loss of life that followed. Although It may have also ended badly with a machete to Jones’ neck, there’s a chance it would’ve ended the total madness right then and there. He had his loyalists, but seemingly no one capable of taking over with his decapitated corpse lying there. So many more than we know wanted the fuck out of there. They probably would’ve cheered his murder and celebrated his killer.
@@johnaddeo2251 I know right??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
@@johnaddeo2251 it seems that way, but then again, all hell might have broken loose and his security forces would have killed many as a reprisal. But yes, it would likely have been less dead. It's so sad.
@@jamesb.9472 Yes, one escaped with his family with Leo Ryan, the other was killed in the massacre. They were both 17.
@@jamesb.9472 No. The boy who survived's name is Thom Bogue. On the jonestown website he wrote an account of what he and his best friend went through when they tried to escape, and what his friend said the last time he saw him alive. It's harrowing.
The boy who died apparently wanted to go with Leo Ryan but his family didn't, and since he was only 17, Ryan wouldn't have taken him. He and the others wouldn't have known they were all about to die.
0:50 " You didn't know about the great mammoth water commodie, and the land cammodie on top of that" - Jones. Lol what in the world.
What a pathological liar he was
I'd rather than die in the jungle than going back to that hell hole.
You can say that again.
Well said. Agreed.
Just the thought that this shit went down in my lovely native land.
@@FrankJohn what was the climate like at the time this incident happened, how was the response from the citizens of Guyana, was there alot of publicity, was there alot of anger from the citizens of Guyana because this left a stain in your country?
Right? I'd rather feed an animal and help continue it's life than feed a megalomaniac's delussion.
@@Indigostarflythe Guyanese people, for the most part, didn’t care. Their rudimentary lives were going to continue on the same trajectory regardless of what happened in Jonestown
Ive heard many Jonestown and jim Jones recordings but I find this one of the most frightening, imagine the entire community and its leader all wanting to punish you , just for wanting to leave, truly sinister
That’s what communism is
@@romanboxing3959nope, LOLOL
@@llatva Yep. LOLOLOL
@hughiedavies6069
I've also been listening in horror to various Jonestown recordings. But after a while I just had to stop listening to this one, because it was so disturbing.
Why worry about a snake from the jungle, when the snake was the one there pretending to be a reverend?
Eloquently said
Ikr
Clever. Never thought of that.
@joshuagerthoffer2321 yeah, I would have definitely been one of the Peoples Temple defectors back in San Francisco. From early on, coming from the South (Georgia) I was brought to never follow and put faith in the preacher, but put faith in the actual they read from, and after chuch, I was brought to read the Bible for myself.
Unfortunately, being born in Atlanta, Georgia in the late 1970s, us Black folks from Atlanta had another situation going on in 1970s through the early 1980s, outside of the AIDS epidemic, which was the Atlanta Child Murders. I still think Wayne Williams was the only one involved in that.
@@Mr.Majestic77 “there’s tigers out there in that jungle that got more respect for socialism than you do.” - Jim Jones
Thom Bogue was one of the boys. It was his mother that wanted to shoot him, then herself. Imagine how betrayed he felt, hearing that out his mother's mouth? He survived Nov 18th. He speaks on documentaries how he ran into the jungle and found a native of Guyana who got him out and safe.
Yes...his own mother. At what point did his mother put loyalty to Jones over a Mother's love....
@@henrybemis8913 - They were almost all delusional in terms of currying favor with “Dad” at any cost. However, they were all expendable and branded for death. How could anyone there make any sense of this. It also strikes me that a lot of the women were nasty, outspoken and fouled mouthed. These were supposed to be disenfranchised people, looking to live in peace and brotherhood. They sound like women fighting at the checkout at Walmart. Women are supposed to be the nurturers and peacemakers, if you listen to these recordings, a lot of the time they were anything but. It makes me feel even sadder about this terrible occurrence.
Wasn't his mom edith Bogue? You can see her speaking to Jones on the ABC news reel where she was leaving with the defectors... I can't imagine her telling her son that.
@@kacyrozier517 yes you're right. Apparently the Bogue fam tried escaping prior to Ryan's visit but got caught planning, so waited out for Ryan. She hasn't spoken out about anything. Jones had her sign countless blank pages no doubt confessing to crimes she hadn't done. She prob yelled at her son to fake prove she was still on side with Jones.
Who Knows, maybe mom wanted them to give her a loaded gun so she could shoot Jones.?
It's strange to hear him describe men being assaulted in prison showers, given that he was literally doing the same thing to men in his congregation.
Just Capitalist propaganda
What? He was raped men there too???
there was also a tape where he had his people beat on a guy who raped a 12 year old girl. Which i totally get but he’s raped so many of the men women and children.
@@pauljones8801 You are a communist drone.
U got that right - that dude was sick in the head
Jim Jones reminds me of the saying “never trust a man who wears sun glasses indoors”
Riiiight!👀👀👀
Unless you are blind.
Or a scarf.
Why would you say that you know people have glaucoma.
@@Bigjudge715 well he didn't
This stuff should have a wider distribution......and more views....thanks for all of your work....keep them coming....
You're welcome n Thank you
Jim Jones the most dangerous animal in the jungle!
"So this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause."
When Jones literally and figuratively threw away the Bible during a sermon and told his congregation that religion is bullshit, that it was simply a means for an end for him, they cheered and shouted their support. As Jones blasphemes God they whoop and clap merrily.
@@TonyMichaels166 Jim was a deranged narcissistic pervert. It's unfortunate that there'll always be people in the world who are that blind and gullible. I just feel sorry for all the poor kids that got killed as well because of all that insanity. Their parents and guardians failed them miserably.
@@TonyMichaels166God certainly paid them back for their blasphemy later....
@@TonyMichaels166Happening now in 2024
That man held people captive. Now he's the one who's captive in eternity.
Just because I believe I have a full head of hair it doesn't make it true
This may sound bad, but the more I hear these rambling tapes of Jim and the horrible stuff he did to his followers, the more I understand why some of them drank the koolaid. Cuz I'm sure there were some who drank it not because they really wanted to or even believed the BS Jim spouted out, but because they were probably so tramautized by that point and depressed, probably also saw no other way out. Most of the people who did try to fight back died anyway. It's so heartbreaking.
Yes. Survivors even felt like that and said you work in the field all day with Jones on the intercom, food is gruel (bugs in it), no protein, then all attend all night meetings past midnight. A percentage are like, "Fuck it." No escape.
Jim kept the people sleep deprived and food deprived and ruled them by fear. A good read on this subject is by author Julia scheeres
I agree
And he did so many fake suicide attempts that the first group that drank the poison probably thought it was another fake suicide.
@@trissloan2340literally his “meetings” would go on for hours and hours even after working in the hot sun for 12 hours I would’ve drank the flavor aid too at that point.
The devil is the father of lies...
thank you for preserving history. those who do not remember the past, are condemned to repeat it
Allllll this time I thought these folks were seduced by a religious cult. This may have been a religious cult - but it was also way more political than I realized as a child. And I NEVER would have guessed Jones and his followers cussed like sailors. I just thought it was way more “clean” than it was. Thanks so much for posting these.
All he preached about was equality and socialism. Very bad language and most his follower held him up to a God level. He told them one time if they all died he could bring them back to life.. in the death tape you can hear a woman giving her testimony saying "he (Jones) is the only God" it was all around fubar these people want to kill people that want to escape.. total brainwashing and demoralization what he is doing is making them feel guilty to the point they are convinced they deserve to die and then he spares them so they will feel like he is merciful gaining their trust and loyalty..
Right, I thought it was a religious cult with good intentions. As I learned more I see these people became evil right along with Jim Jones. And the one that didn’t were in a sense held captive.
He knew who he was dealing with. Religion is mostly a ruse to get people to feel better about themselves. It was a Marxist cult filled with greedy, and power hungry people. Jones knew how to talk to them and what language excited them. Nasty and foul is what they craved. All cons follow the same guideline, let you believe you are doing something good for others (the BS layer on the top), while enticing you with what you really want (the true intent) beneath that. This gives people a permanent out, they are helping and doing something positive, and you are just a bad guy.
Facts it was all that wrap in one
It really depends on how much he revealed* and how soon. Did he have gnnmen in America? If he did, I don't remember anybody saying he did. If this was the case, people should have left in droves back then. In Jonestown, it was probably too late(unless you wanted to die)...
*At first, he claimed to be a Christian minister that accepted black people. And, supposedly, he was convincing. Gradually, he morphed into a monster. But, according to a doc on him, at all points in his ministry, he was always either a hypocrite or an obvious cult leader!
Been going down the Jim jones rabbit hole on UA-cam and came across this video. I kept hearing jim say “the cat of nine tails” and had to google it. Smh 🤦🏼♀️. Those poor ppl.
He was a cruel man
His followers were just as cruel, if not worse.
He was worse than cruel. I hope Lucifer is having a pineapple party in his aas.
You can clearly hear how much he enjoys their suffering.
He is a sadist.
Cruel is just to nice of a word
You should read Toms story about what he and his great friend Brian suffered there. Not only there, but years prior in San Francisco. It's literally like Papillion. Tom also paints a pretty nasty picture of Stephan Jones as well. He was not this sweet, rebellious kid who fought for others. He was a narcissistic bully who terrorized the younger people there. Of course they will tell you everyone is equal, but of course thats bullshit. The Leaders kid will always get their way, and surprise, they both survived.
Yeah two or three out of like ten? Yeah they REALLY got there way. I see Jim Jones is still turning people against each other even from the grave. He did that to those kids, what more do you expect? But we don't think anything of his own mother doing this to him as well? They're ALL victims Stephan was brainwashed just like this man's own mother. Please don't play the blame game these people have suffered enough.
@@daisyharris4247 WTH are you talking about? No, they are not all victims, many of those people loved being able to harm and hurt others at will.
Is this info in a book? Article? I wanna read what you are talking about.
@@shipoopeeeeeeeee There are several interviews with Tom. He also wrote an article about it and there is a link to his story on the jonestown dead and survivors list. He and his friend were dragged into Peoples Temple in San Francisco by their families. They were young teenagers when they met there and both didnt want to be there. They actually escaped at least once in San Francisco only to be turned in by relatives. I would just search his name and it should come up. But its been years since I read it. Tom is now a local politician in his city. The other one (Brian) was essentially broken after he and Tom were caught in JT. Tom is the one Gosney was talking about who was "terrified out of his mind" and was too scared to join in on Gosneys plan to pass a note the Congressman. Brian was killed at JT along with his famly whereas Toms family was able to get out.
@@daisyharris4247You think the fact both his sons lived is a coincidence?
I doubt that jungle was half as dangerous as Jones said it was, but even if it was, I'd take my chances and run.
Even Guyanese authorities say the jungle is dangerous but they wanted to escape that much
Those That Escaped Survive In The Same Bush
Thats why the boys left…. They were the only brave ones!
He also put his armed people to search out anyone who would leave...
Jonestown is a lesson for everyone: it doesn’t matter what language people throw around. Jim Jones convinced PROMINENT politicians that he was on the “right side” simply because of what he preached. The enemy of your enemy is not your friend. More often than not, that enemy is merely another enemy.
Exactly, that was Christopher Hitchens mistake.
He rightly dispised islamists but allied himself with the religious right on the Iraq war.
What he preached and what he did for the people
Jim jones convinced prominent politicians because he passed them money.
Jim Jones did amazing things for the disenfranchised of the inner cities. He just went power mad and of course the drugs didn't help... But he wasn't always so crazy. That's why he had such devoted followers - because they knew him when he was still doing good and then the slide into madness is tougher to see when it happens gradually on the daily.
@@EiziEizz🙄 read his actual articles, he does NOT align with “the religious right”. Nice try
This is absolutely horrific.
Exactly. That's why people ask me do I go to church yes but I don't go to any church. People reading to The Bible things that are not really in there. No one absolutely no 1 knows what color jesis what color Jesus or God is. Not the Pope not Is mother Theresa no one.
@@1990758Jesus was Jewish & his earthly genealogy is documented, so what do you mean "no one knows". Of course everyone knows.
@jnc1028 just what I said no one knows
If he mentions that "laborious" snake one more time...
"why didn't you warn him? he doesn't know shit from apple butter" LOL dude Jim with the one liner jabs. so damn funny
Yeah you about as insipid & retarded as the people in this nutty ass commune!
I was gonna say, the only good thing he said was this! I would have laughed if it wasn't so upsetting. But in a more light-hearted situation, I will be using that line.
Bro would rather take his chances with the “man eating tiger” 🐅 in the jungle than spend one more second with those freaks. Totally understandable.
Tigers don't exist on the American continent.
Sho'nuff
It’s so heartbreaking
The dangers of cults! Blindly following a leader often turns deadly in the end!
Remember these were two teenagers that didn't choose to join this cult. They weren't criminals either. They were two underage teens that just wanted to live their lives. Yet here they are being called racial slurs due to nothing but their skin color. They were being held prisoners there and were being jeered and threatened by a group of adults that included their mother. A mother who said she would kill her son.
Marxist Socialism sucks
Man these folks were just angry for no reason. That mom is crazy. Man Jim Jones was just evil
Pure evil now he’s the one suffering for ETERNITY in hell
Yikes... Not even 10 minutes in and I'm already triggered. I can't imagine being stuck in the Jungle listening to Jim Jones' mythomaniacal verbal diarrhea day and night. His voice, his self- absorption, his confident stupidity and deluded sense of self-importance are clearly illustrated here. Textbook narcissist. Thanks for posting this, it really shows the fear that people had, the depth of his madness and his control/manipulation of the people.
Facts for real lies they will just have to shoot me cuz I’ll run away for sure Jim Jones and all the other fools following him
It does trigger u automatically cuz it’s just so bull shit for one mind to take . All the ppl who believe in Jim jones deserved to die for sho I feel bad for the ppl who wanted to leave and live and all the poor kids smh I hope all the bad ppl are in hell where they belong ..
Exactly and look how hes talking not only is sees talking to those 2 boys. He's talking to everyone in the pavilion just in case they're thinking about escaping. And most of the stuff he is saying is not true. If the slaves got away these people could have got away. All you need is that 1 person to have sympathy for you.
Triggered? 😂
Like the part where he talks about the late great Hannibal Lecter, or the electric boat vs a 10 foot shark scenario. 😂😂😂
Here's a fun fact. The first voice you hear in this clip is Stephan Jones, Jim's son. Just as mean and evil as his dad, the would partake in punishing those who dared to oppose his father.
Stephan survived the mass-murder because he was taking part in a basketball tournament at Gergetown (in fact, he was watching a movie while the event took place).
He was never punished by law for anything that happened in Jonestown.
In every interview he has done since, he acts as if he was a victim.
That actually makes me sick. I have always felt sorry for him.
He was a kid doing exactly what he was told…not evil probably scared as shit and acting
@@girlanonymous He was an adult man lmao
Shame on you. He did nothing mean or evil in this audio. Are you upset that he used cuss words? Oh my heavens! He sounds genuinely concerned that the runaways could’ve dyed (sic)
@@kevin6293 Brother there are over 1000 audio recordings from Jonestown. Those recordings include a recording where Stephan attacks a child for attempting to escape.
Wow man they couldn't gotten out of that place even if they wanted to. This guy was hugely connected. They unfortunately sealed their own fate leaving with this mad man. A cat of nine lashings?? Wow man that's horrifying
I wonder if he was lying to scare the boys
Sad but true
Pretty sure the threat of death is scarier
@@amybaum272275% of the things he spewed was bs.
He was making it all up. You think a poor country like Guyana had 15 different police forces? You think the Russians were really going to risk a nuclear war over 900 Americans under the rule of a drug addled fruitcake? How many black American Russian refugees do you think there are?
Jonestown depended on government checks from the United States government. They couldn't produce enough food to feed everyone. They didn't even have enough housing developments .
Imagine the level of Therapy you would need from being involved in a cult like this? Everyone is so full of hate. Everyone is tearing you down. Everyone is talking down to you, belittling you, that would be enough for someone to realize that this is not ok. It's like they're all brainwashed to be hateful. My self-esteem would be tremendously low if I were around and survived this. This is awful.
Divide and Conquer
Now look at maga
@@dannyhooks9960maga? You guys are the ones who love marxism and Socialism, Race based politics. You literally have more in common with his ideology 😂
@@sallybags9090 coming from the “we’re not a democracy” crowd
@@dannyhooks9960 Wokeism is Jonestown on a larger scale … 😂🤡😵
Excellent find again!
I wanted to take the time to thank you for all the work and energy that you put into this. It's a heartbreaking hearing some of the members being so evil I think that they may have done that to stay on the good side Jim Jones
I am so glad you like my videos...I was beginning to wonder not too long ago if anyone cared about Jonestown anymore?
Yes thank you! Iam on your channel all the time for jonestown. I listen to them over and over. The whole thing is just mind blowing there is so many layers to the whole thing.
@@JamesJames-qj7xr I I agree I don't even know why I got started on watching these videos about Jonestown I've obtained a lot of information from watching these videos no matter how many years go by it's still baffles my mind on what happened there
@@JamesJames-qj7xr Thank you
@Zahara Greene yeah it's something that I will never forget he was such a monster even as a little child he was definitely evil I often wonder why he recorded such hateful situations to show the world that he was definitely a devil and the death tape that is the scariest real life recording that I've ever heard in my entire life and if you listen to some of the tapes his laugh is definitely demonic all them people were trapped and if you did come he'll get out some of the people ended up dead in mysterious ways I'm ready for the results I imagine that he kept a lot of those people drugged up all they got was rice three times a day with bugs in it for someone to turn families against families is so horrible
Interesting, you can hear Stephen Jones at the beginning... so he was right along with his dad at some point at times???
Absolutely
How do you know it's Stephan at the beginning? (I'm not doubting, I'm just confirming what I've noticed from some of the survivors who seem to have revised history and minimized their own involvement in this story)
@@DaphneO. it sounds alot like him.. same voice and all
You can tell it’s his voice.
It's amazing the amount of people active in the masercre that have never been held accountable.
He was manipulating the crowd as well as those kids who escaped like the master manipulator he was
Exactly you can hear it hes trying to put fear in those boys As well as everyone in the pavilion.
This is disgusting, this jim jones was batshit crazy!
Yet 900+ fools willingly followed him to Guyana to live in his socialist dystopia … 😵
Batshit crazy isn't the correct word😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ma3stro681kids were there.
@@ma3stro681That's irrelevant. Doesn't matter where on the political spectrum you started, once you've got an authoritarian leader, this is the result. Sane people don't want that kind of power. Even today, there's people who willingly choose to put authoritarians in power.
@@Indigostarfly I was born in a cult on Geary and Steiner SF CA 1978. Brian maupin, my child trafficker calls himself THE REAL BRIAN Jonestown massacre. He owns a company called CENTRELINK silicon valley. He was training me how to target kids with matching names for his team of organized crimes. My family and friends were identity frauded and murdered. I refused to participate and started reporting to police. My life has never been free of funerals and poisoned to death pets thus far. All the kids in my family are being tracked and harassed.
I saw an interview with Thom Bogue years after it happened and if I recall him and Brian were chained together for 3 weeks to complete hard labor 18 hours a day as part of their punishment for trying to escape. It was just heartbreaking to hear him also describe the last time he saw Brian alive Thom was one of those leaving on the plane with Congressman Ryan's party. He turned and said to Brian please come with us he said Brian just looked at him and simply, sadly said I can't. That was the last time Thom ever saw brain alive. Thoms first-hand account of his time at Jonestown was also featured in the book A Thousand Lives by Juila Scheers.
Brian and tommy were about 15. Brian’s family refused to go which is why he stayed. So sad
I have the book. Quite devastating story
The chains were welded to their ankles they were obviously burned
Brian and Thom were both drugged alot as well. That's probably why Brian said that he couldn't go.
I grew up with Thom bogue’s stepson. Thom was the mayor of my hometown a few years ago & is now running for congress
You just got a new subscriber, Sir. Thank you! In response to one of your comments, I still care...VERY Much So. The massacre occurred during my Junior Year in College. Many of those who perished were my peers. Felt as if I shook my head for a very long time afterward trying to understand this whole situation. Still not sure I do to this day.
Cheers, Blessing and All Best, Sir.
Wrong guys on the thumbnail.Thats Stanley Geig ,tractor driver and airport shooter and his brother Clifford Gieg trusted member of Jonestown who worked on the boat Cujoe.
A 36 foot long anaconda who can crush a horse in seconds? Jesus divorce court. He really had those people controlled. Tigers, snakes, panthers, everything on down. I’m glad I wouldn’t want to live in that horrible place.
Lol
People there must have really believed all that shit. I was laughing when he said that. 😂
@@ActiveAussie2024 right
I enjoy my freedom and privacy too much for that lifestyle.
I’m surprise he didn’t mention the great jungle Polar Bears.
I work for a small company, and the owner has the same power over everybody as JJ did at Jonestown. It's very strange, it feels like a cult and you always have to watch your back and what you say. It's amazing how people are so willing to bow down to another human being.
Scary
Jones is exactly why I work for myself there’s evil people like jones who own buisness an they only want to own it to mistreat others there’s evil humans like that
Why don’t you quit?
exactly. Big powerful companies today will haul employees in to "HR" for saying something "politicallly incorrect" or "racist" or "sexist" and no one stands up to it, so the exact same thing happens every day as JJ, group harassment, fear, insecurity. And even in your situation in a small company too. People need a paycheck, but after awhile, that type of system breaks down.
I worked for a company over a summer and the boss and his wife were awful. They were like Gestapo. They treated their staff like slaves, begrudged people their half hr break. They way they spoke to staff was disgusting and their employees were afraid of them. After a month of working in these conditions I decided enough was enough. I rang the manager the following day and told him I wouldn't be returning to work and gave him reasons why. Hè listened and said I wasn't the first to feel this way and he told me not to leave but to speak to the boss. The boss rang me up after speaking to the manager and I told him EXACTLY what I thought about him and his wife and I did not hold back. He listened and asked me to come and see him in work. I went in to work and reiterated what I had said on the phone. I told him yes I needed money as I had debts but I didn't want it that much to put up with his horrible behaviour. He listened again and apologised for his and his wife's behaviour and thanked me for setting him straight. He asked me not to leave. I stayed for another 2 months before leaving. When I left he bought me a leaving present and card and thanked me for my hard work.
6:54 "...in capitalist Venezuela". Well, not anymore...
As if his funds weren't provided by the spoils of capitalism. He got rich on other people's social security checks.
It’s was flourishing under capitalism! Now it’s a 3rd world country
So this was really jail.
Lol yes
It was a total shithole.
This was much worse, my friend.
More like hell in the jungle
Naw, prison
These were teenage boys they were talking to and treated them terribly tied them together!!
damn jim jones was convincing me not to escape... naming all them damn animals without stuttering 🐬
Hehehe
Naw not me I’ll run 🏃♂️ far away
Right
@@dakingltroyproductofdade3579 don’t leave me troy
@@dakingltroyproductofdade3579 You selfish
Jesus Christ I can’t imagine how terrified these two must have been. Why on earth would they want to escape? Gee I dunno, maybe it’s got something to do with how you’re speaking to them upon their return. It sounds like he spits on them at 22:07
He did
The language though...
And the crazy people clap. They're equally to blame
“He doesn’t know shit from apple butter “……lolol😂
I must find this apple butter. I hate eating shit.
How many of the 10 Commandments did this evil man break?
All of em!
He broke at least nine of them. He might not have worshipped any graven image. If he broke nine out of ten, he's pretty much at the top of the class. Not a class I'd want anything to do with.
more than 10
by calling himself god, he made himself into a graven image, and made his followers worship him, so I think he broke that one too
27:30 I really would like to teleport to this moment just so I could shout back to him “..sure rev, you’re a regular fu-king peach!!”
Hearing that child curse these guys out was shocking. Those kids were so indoctrinated.
Imagine two innocent boys being terrified and terrorized this way. I have a son the age of these two boys and this is just so heartbreaking to hear these boys speak and Imagine my son in that kind of situation. I'm so sad. Especially Tommy's mom say she will shoot her son.
And slapped him (Thom) until Jones told her (his mom) to stop.
This is crazy he was so abusive
I’m sure he’s paying for all of the blood on his hands right now as we speak.
@@Bigjudge715 How? He’s dead … 😂
@ma3stro681 He's dead but his soul is in everlasting agony.
Jim was not the only one responsible for the death of these people. I question how do people follow a psyco like this. The human condition is a mystery.
30:49 😮 this is the mother talking like this.
Absolutely disgusting
The mother tried to escape 2 months prior so I honestly believe she was saying that stuff to "appear" to show loyalty. I feel like she was part of the escapee plan
"He doesn't know shit from Apple butter" 😆😆
Jones literally and figuratively threw away the Bible during a sermon where he told his members that religion is bullshit and was simply a means to an end. As he rants against and insults God the congregation cheers, claps, hollers, and wholeheartedly supports his blasphemy.
Nice try. 🙄 Always trying to distance yourselves from your bad actors. Maybe that happened, I don’t know. But we know FOR CERTAIN Rev. Jones ran a Christian church for years before doing this crap. He and his followers wanted to create some kind of Christian socialist paradise in Guyana. As all dictators, he became drunk on his own power, and bought into his own BS.
Look up “Liberation Theology”- nothing but Marxism and Christianity. Look up “Distributism”, Catholicism and communism.
You try to blame non believers, but that is more lies and propaganda
exactly. When people say it wasn't until Guyana that he turned bad, but he had already shown his contempt for religion in Redwood Valley and San Francisco and the members fully supported it, so they knew what he was and what his agenda was.
On the Jonestown web site there is a recollection by Tommy of his friend Brian. I thought Tommy left with the defectors, but possibly I am wrong. His recollection shows how he felt to bid his friend goodbye. Brian died on 11/18 along with the 900 others .
Tommy did leave with the 'defectors' I am so confused and heartbroken, all those babies - GONE
I read that, it's one of the saddest articles on that site. Brian apparently wanted to go with the defectors, but he was only 17, and apparently couldn't leave without his family. Congressman Ryan probably wouldn't even have taken him since he was a minor. I don't think any of them knew that anybody left behind were all going to die that day.
I rather die or go to jail then be in that camp
You could be eaten by a Tiger!
When he started spitting on them it made me cringe then everyone started clapping
Thank you dad
Dr.coke
Notice that it's the same exact lunatics from the 'Death Tape' in the background saying "that's right". He must keep the most loyal near the recorder.
or they had the loudest most obnoxious voices
@retromoviefan944 Ot sounds like the exact same people. Dat's right!
@@retromoviefan944 That's right!!
It's like drug addiction, really. You'll never get the same euphoric feeling, to the degree that you felt it in the beginning. But you can't walkaway because you desperately want that feeling again, and what's left is all you have...
Jim literally sounds and behaves like the us government and elites do today,it’s uncomfortably similar on how we were treated during the pandemic and plans that are put in place today.the fearmonging the psychological condition…
100%, you nailed it. Jim = Father Fed.
🙄
Your literally talking about maga lol
@@dannyhooks9960 explain
@@christopherburton322 He can't. They can't.
The saddest of many tapes and documentaries I've listened to on this doomed cult.
I feel SO sorry for the children & babies that died.
But after decades of feeling sorry for alll these folks,
after listening to this, maybe it was not a great loss!
Remember, you only hear the loudest and craziest.
Omg lie after lie. This is so sad. Folks never give your mind over to anything.
They already have….
I’m baffled at how they don’t even know how hateful, irrational, and hideous they sound and why being in the bushes woulda been better than being in their presence. The evil in all the people condemning them is telling…a place that’s supposed to be loving, caring, and helpful. One of the grotesque things I’ve ever heard
You can hear Jim jones son Steven jones and he talked just as bad to these poor people as his father and he’s still alive and acts so sorry but I think it’s a joke
Jones sure did round up some vulgar folks from the streets of san Francisco to take with him to Jonestown.
Lmao He could do the same thing in the streets of Los Angeles.
You can have all of California. Stay out there on the west coast. We do not need anymore liberal folks moving to the east coast.
This makes me perplexed as to why people moved to Guyana. Even before they moved there, Jones was showing red flags. He constantly abused members, sexually, mentally, physically and it was known knowledge. He raped men and women, he’d beat on people to “punish” them. Why did they think things would get better after moving out there? I know they were brainwashed into believing that Jones was some sort of messiah and that he knew best but still… It always infuriates me that parents brought their children to that environment after seeing numerous red flags. I mean they LITERALLY practiced drinking poison even back in the U.S, why would they think Jonestown would be a safe environment for their children? It makes me mad just thinking about it. I still think most of the people there were victims to Jones manipulation and mind games but still, I just wish more parents used their intuition and common sense.
I had never heard any other recordings of Jones aside from the death tape. The stark contrast here in his voice shows how much he deteriorated physically and mentally being treated as a god in this cult village.
We had to write poems in a creative writing class in high school. 25 tragedies were put up on the board we had to pick one. I made the mistake of asking the teacher what Jonestown was. A few years later in college, it was covered extensively in an elective I took on occupational behavior and how people can be brainwashed. As a human being, I’m glad I know. But this is a story. I wish I could forget.
I simply couldn’t imagine, just turning on each other and speaking hate as Jim continues to rile them all up. He was a demon for sure. Once they chose to come to Guyana, that was it smh.
There is a website, San Diego State University Jonestown, that has archives of letters to Jones from congregation, stories from survivors, and much more.
I don't understand why people think socialism is such a great thing.
Because they have been told to by people they respect and trust. Same way religion is spread
Just like the woke radical Left do now … 😵
Its more of a broke bums mind state😮
Sho'nuff
Agreed: Capitalism is aspirational; socialism there is no aspirations. With socialism, nothing from nothing leaves nothing
I heard Jones’ ashes were scattered at sea… it’s sad that he gets a better burial than most of his victims… love to all the victims and their family members💕
You heard wrong
Should of been flushed down a toilet
He didn’t die that day
He did die that day from a shotgun to the head either self inflicted or from one of his aides. His ashes were scattered at sea to avoid ghoulish grave visitors.
He's in the mass grave with all the other victims unfortunately
Would it be possible to get some captions on these photo? I have watch a ton of stuff on Jonestown and some of these photos I have never seen! Enjoy the content from your channel!
Hearing the applause sickens me
Sounds like a Trump rally.
@@girlanonymousNah, Trump don’t believe in pinko crap like you. That’s what these people on the audio believed
Well god damn, did I hear Jim Jones spitting on those guys??!! Or did I not hear that??!!
Watch your mouth
GD
I heard that as well
Yes
Indeed you did. But please go easy on the language, friend.
Thanks for reading.
@@greggeverman5578 please excuse my language man. Just the fact that I was so blown away by hearing that from a so-called minister.
What a freakin madman. This confirms it beyond what he even committed.
At a greater scale! This is exactly what politicians do! Promise you greatness but it’s all an illusion.
Yea just look at maga. If that’s not a cult idk what is
This is just a small sample of what people living under socialism/ communism actually go through.
jim jones and his regime was no more communist than he/it was christian. he just cynically paid lip service to these concepts that were popular at the time to serve his diabolical psychological needs. it was narcissistic control through a cult- thats all
Just like where the woke West is heading now unless we turn it around, and fast …
@ma3stro681 yes, Iets put all our eggs in the fascists basket instead 🙄
@@cookie-dough-fox69neither fascism nor communism
@@briandelaney9710 it's an authoritarian that is the issue, and they can move in from anywhere on the political spectrum.
This was beyond disturbing...
To think these people thought he was the embodiment if Christ.
The lies and manipulation, the sleep deprivation. He was a master story teller. Starvation, working like slaves. Yet we see it time and time again. People falling into that trap.
These people sounded extremely ignorant
Maga types. 😂😂
Thats Stephan Jones at the begining speaking, the two boys are/were Thom Bogue (lived) Brian, Thom Bogue wrote this account on the Jonestown Alternative website, Stephan was a different man bk then, took part in the punishments, also speaking are John Cobb (security) Stephan Jones. This is sickening, I admire Stephan now, but he was under his fathers influence bk then, tried to protect him, once yhe suicides occuŕed, it Jim's hold over Stephan broke and compassion came over him, he was shell shocked
The people Jim recruited were often from poor backgrounds lots of trauma and some drug takers. Old ppl gave the cost of their homes to him. In general alot of the ppl who went there were desperate, lonely, had a record and mental illness.
Crazy how dumb these guys were to let one man completely manipulate them so perfectly but then again is it any different from us listening to old politicians an doing what they say absolutely not so we can criticize them because if a war breaks out you will send you kids to die an not stop an say why should I send my son to war the reason the government gives you is to protect your country but when did you or your kids start a conflict over seas ? Who’s causing the over seas conflict it’s definitely not the American citizens
Jim Jones was on drugs and he was their drug
A solid Christian calling people asshole and using such profanity, he was a sick man, that wanted control of peoples minds
Jim Jones was an atheist. So was his cult.
This man was no Christian. His religion was very political. He used religion as a disguise. He preached the gospel according to Karl Marx, Mao and Lenin. He preached Socialism. That was his religion.
He wasn’t a Christian, he was a Marxist.
Yes, all of these dangerous animals, and they live there. I guess he thinks Jamestown is immune. 😂🤣
As bad as this is the White Night with Willie Malone is even more intense. Malone was a streetwise young kid from L.A. who made the mistake of mentioning George Jackson which really set Jones off. Jones's son was there like in this clip piling on.
We’ll put yah in duh fuckin’ box wid duh frog tonight, THEN see if you can stay away from duh frog. ONE touch of the FUCKIN’ frog. How bout dat, Willy Boy? Big old gang land Willy Boy. How bout- how bout goin’ in duh box tonight wid duh frog?… How bout duh frog? Why don’t we get the frog? Why don’t you put your hand in there with the frog?… that’s YOUR problem. You touch the frog, you’re dead. How bout it, Willy? How bout it, Willy? Wanna touch the frog tonight, Willy? You PUNK. You GODDAMN GANGLAND PUNK… If you do want to die why the hell don’t you just take the goddamn frog?… So you’re not afraid of dying, huh? Why don’t you take the frog then? What are you gonna prove by that, big man? PUNK. What are you gonna prove by taking the frog and dying tonight?… If you do want to die why the hell don’t you just take the goddamn frog?… The frog- is he a capitalist? Is the fuckin’ frog a capitalist?… you think that being brave is in and itself- it means not shit, worth nothing- unless it’s connected to socialism, and you haven’t got it connected to socialism… So you’re gonna be tough and take the frog? You want to take the frog? I’m getting sick of this. I said do you want to take it? Cuz the frog, ya know- if you take the goddamn frog ain’t nothin’ in the world stops it. Anyone in the world can pick up a frog once and take a fuckin’ frog. Ain’t committed no crime.
@@TonyMichaels166 put your hand in there with the frog Willy, come on Willy boy, put your hand in there put your hand in there
I tried looking up the people who tried escaping back in '77, and there are no names, or no real mention of this incident other than this recording. I'm interested to know if they wound up dying the next year or not. If so, that's one of the worst things about the whole thing. That they were aware that they would probably suffer some horrible fate and were ALMOST out, must've been like.death before the poison.
One died ,the other survived.
@@thaismatsumoto Well that's greatsucks!!! 😃😔
@@futurefind674 yeah..one left with his family,the other didn’t leave because his family stayed.
@@thaismatsumoto Did the one who left get anyone killed on the runway? (I assume that's when they escaped).
They're names are under the more icon under the title of video. There is a website San Diego State University Jonestown that has archives of letters people wrote Jones, interviews of survivors, bios...
Not to be insensitive to those who lost their lives but......why do these folks sound so angry towards teenagers who tried to escape this non-existent paradise? Everyone’s screaming profanities like they’re trying to impress Jim or something. No individualized thinking what so ever 🤔🤨🧐🤭They should all be ashamed of themselves, treating each other with such blatant disrespect & aggression, hostility, awhile screaming obscene profanities. Where’s the Love!?!?!? Especially towards the youth & seniors.
Yo fr. They took a vote to shoot these kids smh now I only feel bad for those poor kids who died
they were brainwashed by Jones, that’s why :-(
@@ivanabear8824 Being brainwashed is still no excuse. That you would happily execute your flesh and blood because someone tells you to, is a level of evil nothing can touch.
It's happening today as we speak. What do you think cancel culture is? Bullying and dehumanizing a person and making them worthless to others.
Pure social psychology, Billiejean. The crowd baying for blood, empowering lunatic Jones & yes trying to impress & save their *sses by feeding his ego. Sadly the children are the only innocents in this as they didn't have a choice. Without those adults there's no ' Jim Jones ' .
Socialism at its best.
Jones couldn’t even break 1,000. He was a lightweight
Isn't it my understanding that Jones was a millionaire at the time of his death?
Yes, and I don't understand why the people weren't fed better.
@@msrain1235 that's socialism. Only the people at the top collecting everybody's money and distributed to the rest, at their discretion, while they keep the rest!
He has millions they all gave him all they property houses cars every thang and he starve them ppl feedin them only rice they say he had lot of weapons gun money all was found there after they died them fools still stick up for him they was stupid
@@abryant8287
That's also Capitalism.
Just look at America.
@@StBindo hardly!
Wow! The language of these people is appalling!
And he and everyone else stated on cam they were free to leave if they wanted…LIES. A very brainwashed people…it’s fascinating.” But disturbing all at a once.
Edit: wow, I thought these were peaceful, loving people. Boy was I wrong. Feel a little less sorry now.
JJ made David Koresh look like a boyscout!