SS Cotopaxi In The Desert | Close Encounters of the Third Kind | Voyage
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2020
- SS Cotopaxi, a ship that was lost at sea in the Bermuda Triangle, reappears in the middle of the Gobi Desert.
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Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Steven Spielberg/1977) SYNOPSIS: Roy Neary, an electric lineman, watches how his quiet and ordinary daily life turns upside down after a close encounter with a UFO.
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This movie looks more 90s than it does 70s especially this scene it’s very timeless and masterfully shot
It was very ahead of its time
the beauty of a Spielberg movie- scenes crafted like masterpiece paintings
Even if the premise may sound silly nowadays, Spielberg is a master at compeling emotion, thrill and mistery and that makes this movie feel fresh in many regards still today.
Sadly for the Cotopaxi, this was not its ultimate fate. They discovered its wreck in January 2020 near St. Augustine, Florida. She had actually been found in the 1980s, but wasn't positively identified until later.
Yeah I was going to bring this up. But hay it still a great movie !
Hey we can dream
And maybe that’s where “they” dropped it off. 😉
So this story is real?
Is there a video about it
More mysterious than a ship in the desert is how helicopters, jeeps, and people on foot can all arrive at the same time.
Ah,the wonders of fimmaking!🤣
haha I was wondering what's the point in flying to only follow the cars
well that's easy. They were all 'positioned'...and holding, just over that next dune....and Spielberg hollered, 'Action!'
Timing
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Dropped off in the desert, instead of the ocean. Alien sense of humor.
In a Landlocked country too boot. Those Aliens sure have. A sardonic sense of Humour 😆😏
It was an ocean last time they visited.
@richardextall2002 exactly what I was going to say
@@richardextall2002 Well then how did they get the ship, because it wasnt an ocean in 1925
Damn EBE's.....did NOT discriminate over 'where to put it back'..... well played, Greys; well played.....
I'm impressed by the skill of the helicopter pilots ability to fly that fast and close to the ground.
Former Army pilots, probably. They spend most of their time flying at the nap of the earth.
@@sillyone52062 That's a fact.
True and perhaps it makes good theatre - but why would they do this? Far more efficient, effective and safer to fly higher straight to the destination.
All helicopter crashes were scrubbed out!...with ONLY the ones which didn't crash left in the movie's final cut.
@@blackholeentry3489
Lol...
😆
I love the comments when knowledgeable people chime in. Good history lessons.
Facts
If we're sticking with the movie plot, this is the Aliens knowing that the insurance had already paid out on the ship; that means they could park it wherever.
One helicopter Mr. Spielberg? How silly of me! Props guy. get me another chopper, and I want it yesterday.
Mr. Spielberg could have used the SS Waratah. She has never been found.
My Dad's been gone since 1989 but I remember him being really tickled by this movie.......and playing Leisure Suit Larry on the family's very first computer( a 186 something or other).
Holy crap! Leisure Suit Larry!!!!! I haven't thought about that game in years.
probably a 386 or 486 cpu
"Why is it here?? Beats the shit outta me" 😜
I love that line A typical off the cuff exasperated statement ❤😂❤
@@mikeowen7526 "WHY is it HERE? As my college philosophy proffessor often said.....
"Because is isn't THERE!"
genius cinematography / that ship is probably a 20 to 30 foot long model
actually it is a toy
@@gaguy1967 As in a small miniature model?
It’s Spielberg. He had Lucas do all special effects.
Werner Herzog would have transported it there in the original...
@@Anand-ej7rz Yeap!Klaus K. was the captain....
To make the best use of helicopters, fly them low and slow behind the trucks.
Loooooooool
I was ten years old when I watched this movie at the Lee theatre in Hong Kong (long before the Chinese turned it into a Communist showpiece).
The roar when the trucks broke over the dunes sent the crowd into rapture.😊
👽- We’ll drop it in the Gobi.
👽- BRO! Ha!
If there had never been a ‘Close Encounters’, the subsequent world of UFO mythology would be very different...
This is a puzzling statement. Could you elaborate please .
So that's where my boat I used to play with in the bath-tub went!!
One of the ❤ Best movie ever
Unfortunately for Spielberg, the wreck of the SS Cotopaxi was discovered off the coast of St. Augustine, Florida, in the 1980s and positively identified in 2020. He should've used the USS Cyclops instead. That ship disappeared in the Bermuda Triangle in 1918 and has never been found.
Although it's fairly well known that her (the Cyclops) cargo of was highly erosive (as seen with the SS Jason) and when wet turned into a slurry - possibly indicated by the unscheduled stop in Barbados, due to her plimsol line being below the water. The fact two of her 3 sister ships also vanished without trace (within a month of each other) with erosive cargo also indicates structural failure.
@@efnissien Perhaps, but three identical ships, each over 540 feet long, vanishing without a trace? They found the Cotopaxi on the ocean floor in the Triangle, but not the Cyclops, which was twice as big.
@@44excalibur it's a startling fact that even today, a ship larger than the titanic goes missing every month, so back in 1918 when the Cyclops vanished and 1941 when her sister's Proteus & Nereus vanished (and to my knowledge they've never been found either.) Proteus & Nereus both suffered from severe corrosion of her structure, and it's a feature noted in similar vessels. It's possible one or more may have been victim to a U-Boat, but no record of their loss was recorded by the kriegsmarine (although it's possible the U boat that sunk them was itself lost before it could report it's kill.) Cyclops & Proteus both were at sea during severe storms and one theory is the vessels sank after snapping in two while the bow and stern were at the peaks of waves, leaving the midships unsupported over the trough.
@paddyleblanc More like it takes from the suspension of disbelief. Your imagination can believe that the Cyclops was abducted because it's never been found. The Cotopaxi was found.
@@44excalibur Author Lawrence Kusche, who wrote the superbly researched book 'The Bermuda Triangle Mystery - Solved' (1975) speculates that the Navy's search for the Cyclops was focused in the wrong place. The Navy's search was primarily north of Puerto Rico, whereas, Kusche believes that she was lost in a storm east and south of Norfolk.
You can see the tracks from all the sand buggies that were at the dunes the previous weekend, a serious lack of awareness considering this is supposed to be in the middle of nowhere.
Never could wrap my head around why the helicopters flew that low and close to not only each other, but to the vehicles themselves. They looked like they were trying infiltrate an enemy base, flying nap of the earth like that.
Nam pilots or nightstalkers.
Because it looks great on camera.
for the camera...duh!
it's called dramatic effect, don't worry about it.
It's called doing something for "dramatic effect"...This is allowed for, I think, when telling stories, especially in cinema. In reality, aliens have never visited us, but this movie almost made me believe in Little Green Men. The opening sequences of this now classic Sci-Fi movie were deliberately constructed in such a way as to make one think seriously about how we might first encounter aliens from outer space coming into our midst. Like all good mystery plays, one has to build suspense and set up incongruous situations to draw you in (like a ship abandoned in the desert a thousand miles from the nearest ocean - how unusual, what could have caused such a phenomenon to occur?). This movie does this brilliantly, don't you think. Spielberg is a master storyteller.
From Wikipedia - On 29 November 1925, Cotopaxi departed Charleston, for Havana, under Captain W. J. Meyer, with a cargo of coal and a crew of thirty-two. On 1 December, Cotopaxi radioed a distress call reporting that the ship was listing and taking on water during a tropical storm. The ship was officially listed as overdue on 31 December.
Class film though
Why is it in movies that you never hear helicopters until they’re right on top of you? 😂
Because they are flying low ?
they turn the sound down. ;)
This was probably one of the first major motion pictures to feature the AK-47 rifle, a small but mind-blowing factoid.
Amazing huh
Yeah, totally funfact, but to see Bell Ranger in Mongolia (outer or inner?) and western 4x4 was also total realistic. 😂
This Was Filmed Out In Dumont Dunes/ Death Valley.
Pretty cool! like WOW Aliens might have a sense of humor……👽👽
I don't kow how it was possible to bring US helicopters in the Gobi desert while Mongolia was a comunist state during the 70's. However, this film is an absolute masterpiece.
Given the fact the convoy is waving UN flags, I think the answer to that is pretty obvious...it's just a movie.
I was going to post the same thing. The Soviet Union had a major forward airbase in the Gobi in the 1970s and 80s. They would not have let the UN or the US in.
The camels??? Only one
haha...yes, UN vechicles and November registers (US) aircraft...lol
@@Gsp_in_NYC The UN routinely uses equipment of its member states (and also personnel). it doesn't have an army or any military type equipment of its own. *face palm*
01:17 ...that camel is pissed. "Arrrrghhhh!!! Ooomophfff-grrrrraaak!!!" [translation: thanks for the trauma a-holes!]
Oh, that's where I left my ship!
Music has a similar effect to that of “2001” when approaching the monolith?! Brat Pack strikes again!
I love this scene it should have been in the first 1977 theatrical release it's great.
This scene was in the original theatrical release.
@@OneEye. I don't remember seeing it in theater I went to in Pennsylvania maybe not all theaters had the full print of the movie.
@@moviesgalore9947Yes, I remember this scene in the theater in South Carolina, so could be. Loved all of these, the planes, the boat, the chanting crowd....
@@nexus0622 So, 1980.
You tell Municipality we're goin' to candle power in ten minutes!
When I saw this movie I knew about flight 19. It gave me hope that maybe it could be that way. I often wonder if the families were given a heads up about this scene.
Yeah, unfortunately the Avengers didn't float all that well...
The scene is filmed in forced-perspective with a model sitting closer to the camera than the people. When you pay attention to it, it's noticable. Spielberg probably felt that on the big movie screen, it would really be noticable.
Hm! It doesn't look noticeable to me at all, even now you've pointed it out. I had no idea.
@@jmack8767 That's why Spielberg's a cinematographic genius.
I figured thats how he did it but it doesn't look obvious. In a bright environment with small aperture you get long depth of field which helps sell the effect
It could be forced perspective, ut could also be matt paintings imposed on plates and Teo films manually edited to gather. Matt painting was used a huge amount in the seventies and eighties. Entire shots in the OG Star Wars trilogy were just paintings, shots you wouldn't even imagine were paintings (the first glance of Mos Eisley from the hilltop is a painting, not a distant camera shot of a real place.)
Of course the matt painting Iverson glass can be combined with forced perspective. It means the ship in this case would be much more stable in the shot, the lighting on it would always remain the same, and I think this is the actually process. But, I could be wrong.
Just want people to know about the skill of movie production painting, modelers get some attention, but painters, very rarely.
@@domedwards5256 It's three-dimensional. It's not a matte painting, and is a forced perspective model. At the very end of the clip you can see the people about to walk right behind it.
You can also see ships in the Desert in the dried up Aral Sea.
When I was really young, this movie was only out on TV and VHS cropped for 4:3 aspect ratios. The 2:30 scene in particular really messed with my head. Since it was cropped and I couldn't really comprehend what it was they were searching for, my mind saw a cliff overhanging the desert with some kind of alien base on the edge of it. The white part of the hull looked like the top of the cliff, while the red part of the hull looked like the shaded area under the cliff.
If you hold your hand up to the scene and block the ship right at its name and focus with one eye on the structure without looking at the hull, you can kind of see what I thought I saw.
The name "Cotopoxi" also made be believe that they had been searching for the alien base on Earth and they finally found it because what 8yo knows what a cotopoxi is?
It wasn't until many years later with the widescreen versions AND DVD/Bluray quality scans that I could truly appreciate what I was seeing on screen.
I think they should have done like panned from the right to the left, but that was 1980 and now we have on-demand now unfortunately..
This ship was just a few feet long. They used trick photography back the.
I guess the aliens took all the bactrian camels away...😂
No dromedaries in the Gobi. Of course probably no Jeep Cherokees or Bell 206s either
Werner Herzog would have transported it there in the original.... 😎
Werner Herzog was probably one of them 😉
And Klaus Kinski would have had himself physically altered to be an alien
. Kinski was a good actor , but a terrible human being. 🙄
"Heer ve haff the shipp ... in ... a ... DEZert."
The camel is the ship of the desert.
No, the Cotopaxi is. 🤣
The only thing that kind of pulls me out this is the fact they used the wrong type of camels. It's forgivable, I'm not sure how many Bactrian camels were available to Hollywood at this time.
I was thinking the very same thing. Dromedary Camels would Not survive the Harsh Gobi/Mongolian Winters. Bactrian Camels, definitely! The Central Asia Plateau/Deserts is their Natural/historic Habitat.
This has always bothered me, tbh, since the film first came out! 🐫 🐪
You people need help.....
@@will7its as an engineer, raised by two PhD biologists, I was wondering the same thing !!!🙄😝
@@alwenke212 No need to wonder.....lol
Are they preparing us for what I have believed all of my adult life?? Yes, Virginia, there is an advanced life form besides us.
Yes, any other form of life on earth is further advanced than humans.
These dunes haven't changed much in these 45 years but I'm sure now there is a Starbucks
The real Cotopaxi was found in February 2020. It was found 35 miles off the coast of St. Augustine, Florida. She departed St. Augustine, with a load of coal bound for Havana, Cuba, on 29 November 1925. On 1 December, two days later, the captain put out a distress call that they are sinking when hit by a tropical storm. The ship went down and all thirty-two men were lost.
Wreckage was first found in 1980, but wasn't positively identified until 2020. The cause for the sinking was most likely flooding because of a design flaw in the ship. Water that washed on deck would enter the cargo hold because the hatches were not water-tight. A flaw that was pointed out by repair crews and when the families of the missing filed a lawsuit against the ship's company.
I'm sure Lloyd's of London will want their money back from the insurance claim.
I miss film cameras
Got Close Encounter's on DVD, Discovery of the Cotopaxi, abandoned and a long way from a coastline
It took me a long time to understand why the aliens were dropping off stuff at random locations, buzzing aircraft and turning off power grids. In addition to starting the process towards first contact, it was a friendly demonstration of their abilities and warning to humans not to attempt anything deceptive or dangerous during the meeting.
Interesting take. But plausible.
Roy Neary - “Hope they have mash for dinner and not that powdered muck”
When I make Devil's Tower from my dinner, I use Stove Top™ stuffing mix ... by DuPont! It clumps together in a way that really creeps out your family ...
I would have preferred the Andrea Doria.We saw it sink, but to find it in the desert would have been cool.
looks a lot like southern Cali on I-8 😎🤷♂️
The camel is the ship of the desert.
This scene has been removed in the Amazon TV version...😵
Low 🌊 tide is very early😊
Cotopaxi was a real boat disappeard in 1925 in the Bermudas country.
In 1980, My wife I took a cruise ship from New York City to Bermuda, where the ship was supposed to stay for four nights. We went on shore, and when we returned, the ship had disappeared....and was never found!
A lot of foreshadowing of our present day era in this clip.
Those aliens were litter bugs
It's hslf the Bolivian navy, its the gunboat on Lake Poopo that failed to make it to drydock before the lske dried up in summer like it does every year.
Yes as below - scene was not in the theater version of the movie.
Can't help but think why the locals are required to point, if the helicopters can fly at 2000ft surely they could SEE from that height where the ship was and radio the position or simply hover there, letting the jeep vehicles follow. Madness pure madness.
Dude that's a natural instinct. I've seen people point firetrucks towards a burning building up the street as they pass even though the smoke can be seen for at least a mile. It happens, especially when you're freaked out by something. In this case, a ship appearing in the desert, in perfect condition, would be enough to freak anyone out.
@@Boskov01 Like I said Can't help but think why the locals are required to point, if the helicopters can fly at 2000ft surely they could SEE from that height where the ship was and radio the position or simply hover there
Because low flying helicopters look cool
@@peterwinters8587 Ah, such an accurate film. Facepalm
@@dantaylor7344 Because they’re excited and want to help out and be part of it, redundant as it may be. This sort of thing happens in real life, too.
It's a flying boat.Well it flew there somehow.
I remain unsurprised by UA-camr commentators and their complaining/whiny comments. (See multiple entries below for complete tediousness"
At :56, the guy on the ground could be pointing to a cliff and the Jeeps would just roll right over it...and the helo's would follow. It's also odd that the Jeep guys would park so darn far away from the ship, rather than drive right up to it. And it seems like more people were walking to the ship than would fit into three Jeeps.
Ah, one of the great forced perspective shots. Can't even tell...
Was this scene edited out of the original release? I don't remember it from seeing the film on the big screen.
No. It was in the theatrical release in 1977.
Used a model for that scene. The model was close up, the people far in the background.
Very poor navigation there captain.
Great product placement by AMC. But really, Jeep Wagoneers in the desert?
So aliens took the ship, kept the people, but then returned the ship years later with no people? Why? How? When?
Alien tourists basically tossing their trash out the window of the mothership.
Very funny but fundamentally accurate.
Ever notice that aliens never land in Tienamen square, Red Square, Piccadilly Circus, the Arc de Triumph, or 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Powerfull enough to get here and lacking in stones?
@@billwatkins8227 The aliens are little shitbags.
Must unbelievable part isn't a ship in the desert. It's Jeep grand wagoneers driving more than 5 miles without breaking down.
Must’ve been roasting in those fur outfits.
deserts are often very cold. Dunno why you might think they're all hot
It's a great scene, although the helicopter flying is a bit over dramatic.
In order for the whole movie to work, belief in reality had to be suspended. Otherwise how could all these people arrive at this very point at the same time.
The wrong camels in the Gobi desert!
so why would aliens leave a ship here instead of the ocean? because they heard we like to leave room for dessert
At least the aliens weren't dumb enough to dump Flight 19 in the Ohio River. Oh, and aliens--what did you do with the poor crew of the ship? Feed them to the Spindly One?
For a second, I was expecting Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt to show up with Kevin Spacey.
‘I told you it would really be something.’
"whazz in da BOOOOXXXX"
He aliens were messing with humans. Having somefun.
Those aliens had better put that ship back right now!
It would have been weirder if it had been the CSS Texas.
That’s the point of filming isn’t it you can do what you want 😊
The last few times I've watched CEOT3K this scene was cut out... Is it because the Cotopaxi was actually found just off the coast of FL?
Also... Shouldn't those Mongolian fellas have Bactrian camels?
I just tried watching it online and yes, this scene is totally gone. Had me wondering which version I was watching because I think there were actually three the original, special edition, and director's cut. But I didn't think this scene was ever cut out, but now it seems to be.
@@BobSmith-mz1uo This scene wasn't in the original 1977 version, but it is in the two other cuts.
Yeah, if you were watching the original 1977 cut then this scene wouldn't be in it. But the special edition and directors cut have it.
Isnt he a bit over dressed for the desert???
@@BobSmith-mz1uo The original version I saw in theaters _did_ have this cut. It was the re-release that edited it out in favor of movie-goers getting to see the interior of the mother ship along with Roy.
Bacterians only in the Gobi plus this is a ship in The Nahib desert! Got a photo of me with it.
This is a model of a ship that disappeared in the "Bermuda Triangle" She actually samk near St. Augustine Florida, but no knew it at the time. All they knew was it disappeared without a trace.
I used to have a photo of the The Eduard Bohlen in the Namib Desert on my wall back in the 90's.
Biggest joke is the use of Jeeps. NGOs used Toyotas or Nissan Patrols.
UN used also Jeep Wagoneers, expecially during the UN missions in Lebanon
this movie should be free by now
Good luck with that, the greedy industry wants every nickel and dime they can get, I'm surprised these short clips are even allowed to be shown without financial compensation.
The captain made a wrong turn going down the Yangtze River
why is it here ? beats the #### outa me!
The best UFO film ever.
When they allocate means of transportation….
Shotgun not walking!!
Why are the helicopters flying so low?
Cleverest guys in the clip had camels
ss cotopaxi was lost in the bermuda triangke
Well yeah - that’s why it appears in this movie. The aliens had grabbed it from the triangle
Are those Jeep Wagoneers??
Yes
is that Jackie Chan? sec 0.16
Yea......um. No.
The only unbelievable thing are the helicopters flying so close to the cars... I mean why? Just for a camera shot... So silly.
BTSOOM.