@@n.m.8802 I remembered last year I stumbled across some forum where people were arguing whether Singapore should be considered a country or not cause we're "too small" xD
Vatican city isn't a helpful example, I think. It's entire economy consists of fees to enter museum and the sale of postage stamps. It doesn't have even permanent population.
"The founding fathers didn't want DC to be a state." The founding fathers also didnt want there to be party lines (Democrat and Republican) because they saw our current situation hundreds of years ago. We are divided and they never wanted this for us. "A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Abraham Lincoln on slavery. And yet here we are. Our country is just about as divided as it can get.
@Nathan Foster I do vote. Every single election year. They didn't want parties because they knew it would be divisive for our country. History does tend to repeat itself and they learned from watching other countries have parties.
Abraham Lincoln's quote wasn't warning against a divided country through two parties, he was already living through it. Better person to quote would probably be Washington.
@Non Filios Tuos Videbis Vacillantes well then how do you plan on representing them with the VOTE, they need to be able to VOTE on the issues that affect them
Puerto Rico has 3 million americans, with only a non voting member in The House of Representatives representing us. Puerto Ricans have serve in multiple wars including WW1, WW2, Vietnam War, Korean War, our current conflicts in the middle east. Were treated as second class citizens we can't vote for president only in the primaries. i ask Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC.
Puerto Ricans have the choice of statehood, it is on the ballot most elections, but they vote no. If Puerto Rico becomes a state, they will have to pay federal income tax, so most people vote no.
But I Don’t Think Republicans (Holding Majority In Senate) Would Like 2 More Democratic Senators In The Senate & 3 - 6 More In The Senate. Edit: But I Don’t Think Republicans (Holding Majority In Senate) Would Like 2 More Democratic Senators In The Senate & 3 - 6 Representatives In The House.
DC wasn't a state for very good reasons and no one cared because it was virtually uninhabited. So if the problem an abundance of unrepresented people then just have the states surrounding around DC annex the land leaving the portion carved out shown @3:01. Tipping the balance of power will only tear us further apart.
@@christiansoldier77 A statehood referendum was voted on by DC citizens in 2016 and resulted in 78% in favor of statehood. You can literally check the 2016 general election archive. Took me just a couple minutes to find.
@@mason_yt444 Yes but it is all a scheme cooked up by Democrats. DC has been around 240 years but now all of a sudden they must become a state ??? USE YOUR BRAIN
@@christiansoldier77 it's not as if this is a new issue, it has been for decades. Yes, they feel more left out when it's a Republican government, which isn't unlogical, they haven't voted Republican ever in their history, while the federal government is running their lives. I can understand why you want a 'neutral' federal territory, but their population deserves representation as well. At the very least, Home Rule that doesn't get overruled by a hostile federal government, the population getting the same benefits as the other citizens, and giving voting rights for their House Representative, and the citizens perhaps voting rights in another state. Simply ignoring the people living in DC is not a good strategy.
Puerto Rico has way more people then Washington D.C. and it actually has the land of a state as well. Puerto Rico is like a state, Washington DC is a city that doesn’t belong to any state (for somewhat good reasons; does that outweighs taxation without representation, idk that’s not my job but there are good reasons)
Master Fortune I think he **did** mean to say “Monaco” instead of “Morocco”. In reality, Morocco is much larger in area, as it is slightly larger than the U.S. state of Texas. I’ve found that the three nations of Morocco, Monaco, and Montenegro all sound very alike, and each of these nations within Africa and Europe lie relatively close to the Mediterranean Sea. I understand the confusion here. They even have the color red in each of their flags (Morocco, Monaco, and Montenegro from left to right respectively): 🇲🇦🇲🇨🇲🇪
2020 Republicans: "We will sell our souls to the Devil in order to keep control of the U.S. Senate. And if D.C. becomes a State, we would lose the Senate forever."
@@MarcozExe It's sad that the people from the US are still not concerned with the problems going on in Puerto Rico. To see that Washington DC has a better chance of becoming the 51st state is genuinely infuriating.
Julia Hernandez It could still be considered a steppingstone, once we have the ball rolling with the 51st state then we will start again looking for the next one and that 100% is Puerto Rico
Something really perverse about a rep from Arizona stating that "the founding fathers didn't want DC to be a state." The founding fathers never imagined Arizona as a state either.
Except the founding fathers clearly didn't want it to be a state, because if they did, they would have made it one. Meanwhile, they created provisions in the constitution for new states like Arizona to join the union. So they clearly imagined that the U.S. would add new states, even if they didn't know which ones, but also clearly meant for DC to remain a capital territory.
@@1000rogueleader also the founding fathers didn't want you you vote. Any woman to vote, nor any non white to vote. Also did I mention You? They don't think you were capable of voting. Just letting you know.
@@basicallyalandershowitz seeing as they are contradicting themselves, either don't listen to people 300 years ago who dont understand the current situation, or stop taxing them federally and give them semi auto status, with their own legislation and stuff.
Brazil is also a federal country and the capital isn't a state, it's a federal district (for example it doesn't have a mayor, only a governor) but everybody can vote there because we have popular vote here and multiple parties, so no need to worry about an electorial college.
@@Forlfir DC's only problem is that it does not have senators due to lack of statehood. DC votes in presidential elections where it has 3 electoral college votes.
@@s4gr_n0s3y The constitution never legalized slavery originally. It was just never banned. Don't blame the constitution for an issue that never existed.
Why does the amount of parties matter?It would make vote splitting a night mare making everyone feel less represented and it wouldnt solve any issues we currently have.There are such thing as gun loving pro life democrats and pro choice massive gun law Republicans.
@Chooey Sooares yes, but those coalitions change and vary throughout the years, while the only major shift in recent years was the democratic party moving away from racism, and that was almost 50 years ago!
This isn't a good comparison. Most of what the Founders wanted with regards to legal/Constitutional issues have merit. Some of their private/political/philosophical views are indeed antiquated, but when something is Constitutional it becomes law. To say that we should disregard the Constitution solely because the Founders had some bad antiquated ideas, is dangerous for a Republic (or a democracy that values the rule of law). The District of Columbia should NOT become a state because the Constitution makes it improper and therefore illegal for the nation's capital to be a state. D.C. would not exist but for this very fact, so making it a state negates the reason for its very existence. I'm a big fan of changing SOME of the Constitution via the Amendment process, but until then, respecting the enumerated powers is very important.
Side note: it's still debatable as to just how racist the Founders actually were, to what extent, and which ones. Most had slaves, yes, but there's some reason to believe that many of the Founders actually recognized that at some point slavery would eventually have to come to an end. They were very forward-thinking for their time.
drink15 -- Even if it was hours long someone would still complain about how something was left out and claim something presumptuous like "it's more nuance than this simplified version."
The issue of DC not being a state predates it having a Black majority. Last I checked, DC only gained a Black majority in the 1940s-1950s. DC statehood has been debated since the 1800s when DC was only 20 percent Black and the answer was still. No.
"Washington DC is a city, not a state" Singapore, Monaco, and Vatican City: *Allow us to introduce ourselves* If a city within a city can be a state, so can DC. If a city island powerhouse like Singapore can be a state, so can DC.
Technically, giving DC statehood wouldn't (necessarily) give Democrats an extra seat in the House. Yes, DC is overly Democratic, but the House is locked in at 435. An additional state would cause a reapportionment of seats based on population. (Basically it would take away a seat from the 'most represented' state.) The Senate point is definitely true though.
technically they would get an additional seat [it would temporarily be 436] as seats only get reallocated at the next census, but yeah the main deal is the senate anyway
I think what they're trying to say is that they'll get a 'free' seat. Sure, the seat count won't change, but every state gets atleast one seat. So DC would get a seat, which would probably always go Blue
The reason why the founding fathers didnt want D.C. to be in a state was so no state could claim control of the United States. This was back when Washington D.C. was a field with Congress in the middle. Times have changed now and the founding fathers would allow D.C. statehood since there are people belong taxed without representation.
Very true--the founding fathers would give DC statehood because of Taxation without Representation. As for the issue of federal buildings not being in a state, we could easily form a Federal District that would cover all the land with Federal buildings and make DC a state that's just right next to the federal district. Problem solved with DC Statehood!
yes, but the founders wanted a small area immune to local corruption as a HQ for the federal government to operate, its actually not that hard to understand. It's not about DC being exploited for their taxes, it's about the federal infrastructure not being infiltratable. making the area even smaller is a decent solution.
But when The Founding Fathers created DC, they didnt expect it to be a huge metropolis. They thought it would be busy with congressmen for a couple months then a ghost town for the rest of the year.
@@SomeKata If you watched the video they mention an easy solution to that problem. The vast majority of D.C is residential only a small portion is the Capitol, simply make that small portion the Capitol problem solved.
@@greg-iw7mf The Founding Fathers didnt imagined the other states added by the USA, American Terrortories and nor did they expected black people and women to vote, they also didnt expected to LGBT people became normalised.
@@askosefamerve they did know that other states would be added that they established procedures of territories becoming states in the constitution. DC was and is still an American territory so i dont understand the claim of "the FF didnt imagine American Territories". There were plenty of territories out west and south wanting to join the US shortly after the revolutionary war. Why are you bringing up race and LGBT? my argument is about the balance of federal and state powers...unfortunately throughout past and modern history, federal districts on local/state jurisdictions have been victims of corruption, political imbalances, injustices and in worst cases, overtakings.
*Taxation without Representation* .... *Sounds like a reason for revolution* * 1770's revolutionary music intensifies * If DC didn't became a state DC should rebel against The Federal Government just like the early Americans did to the British....
When the Founding Fathers were alive, Washington, D.C. was a swamp. The idea of denying statehood to the city that exists today based on what long dead men thought of a swamp is idiotic.
@@thesillyseal284 Regardless of whether or not it should be a state, they're saying basing present-day choices on outdated intentions and information is idiotic.
Micah-David Saunders Such as you haven’t still gone to investigate reason for each sides case you can’t call it idiotic without study the pros and cons of both sides their is no 100% correct or best in politics
@@natenae8635 I feel like you misunderstand my point. I'm not for or against making DC a state (because I didn't know it was an issue until watching this video). I am simply stating that if one of your main arguments for or against something is "That's how people who lived ~250 years ago wanted it", that isn't necessarily sound logic.
@@thesillyseal284 DC absolutely should be a state and the only "compelling" reason against it is that Republicans think it's unfair that they wouldn't control the senate if all Americans got representation. This is a democratic republic, there shouldn't be an argument against a single citizen being unrepresented, let alone seven hundred thousand of us. The same goes for PR and all the US territories.
First we need to solve Puerto Rico's corruption in its Education department. The Federal Gov literally gave them more money and the secretary embezzled it to buy a mansion. Then he gets imprisoned for only several months before returning to the job. Why does no one talk about this.... Puerto Ricans should have the same value to the government as mainland citizens do.
@@ajegs2082 "Residents of Puerto Rico are required to pay some U.S. federal taxes, like Medicare and social security. But most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax"
It is not a choice between the two. I'm all for statehood for both. That is assuming Puerto Rico wants to become a state. I'm not sure that is a decided by the people.
3:23 "Founding fathers didn't intend for Washington to be a state" Well Hawaii wasn't even a state before it was stolen*, so you think it's really up to their intentions.
@@user-xt3xn2hl4e that's just human history every tribe nation civilization stole land its a fact just because the USA did it better and at a bigger scale doesn't mean nothing, that's how evolution works bigger and better societies and cultures will take over lesser and weaker if they can't defend themselves
@@happypt2929 I'm speaking this issue from a political standpoint. There is no need to hold a conversation on evolution right now - although I'd be happy to talk about your "science" later. Furthermore, your statement is fallacious, as it constitutes an "appeal to nature" logical fallacy.
06:10 the irony of a special forces soldiers (the unit motto is "de oppresor libre" which is to "free the oppressed") in riot gear "controlling" protestors is one of the most ironic things ive seen in the Army.
rioters aren't oppressed though, the fact that they can riot shows their freedom. in places like china you just get shot and executed for protesting the government.
Not as bad as China, because the US is not a dictatorship, but it may well be the worst in the western world at the moment. The police have turned callously violent against protesters.
"The founding fathers didn't intend for dc to be a state" The founding fathers also didn't want the government to be split into 2 parties and yet it did. Just say you guys don't want them to have statehood.
the founding fathers also didn't intend dc to be a thing, it was originally going to be a small district in new york. You only need to watch 10 seconds of hamilton to know that much.
@@adminbrave4938 I never said they did intend for it to be a thing. My point is that using that as an excuse to not make it a state seems hypocritical to me because they still went against what the founding fathers said.
also almost all founding fathers had slaves, the country is different enough today that it shouldnt really matter what people from 200 years ago wanted
@@g2theartist i know i meant that in the way of it was originally gonna be a small place IN a major city, but at this point its a massive city within its own right. im still a little iffy on wiether or not it should be a full state in itself, id rather it just be a city in maryland that way they can get there representation. secondly the ideals that its pop is as high as some states doesnt really matter, as large cities also have that high pop. but since i dont live there id rather the people make the choice.
Because Democrats only controlled both chambers of Congress and the Presidency simultaneously for two years, from 1993 until 1995. In those days, a lot of the Democratic members of the House and Senators were from rural and conservative states and districts. The Democratic majority in the US House tonight is a lot more urban and suburban based and a lot more liberal and moderate leaning than it was back then.
Why not just reduce the size of the "Federal District" as outlined in that plan, but then just dissolve the rest of the city back into Maryland? The people gain their representation, and the political math remains undisturbed. Seems like the most suitable compromise.
Both the people of DC don't want to be absorbed into Maryland, and Marylander's don't wan't the citizens of DC to join their state. When last polled, only 26% of Marylander's wanted DC to be absorbed into the state. The principle foundation of Democracy is self-determination, and as such we could not ethically force the people of DC and Maryland to enter in to a compromise which neither of them want. Instead, why don't we take the Appalachian areas of Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee, which are distinctly different to the rest of their states, and join them into their own state, giving Republicans 2 more solid red seats in the senate?
This solution has been offered numerous times and it is always rejected. They want to become a state and get the two additional Democrat Senators. It is entirely political in nature and they could have representation through Maryland relatively quickly if they agreed to it. The argument is that there is an ulterior motive to trying to give DC statehood which is to change the outlook of the Senate.
@@turkeysamr well, do D.C. residents want to join Maryland or become a state? I do believe that D.C. and other U.S. territories should have a say in running the country
@@alexnavas2802 ah so if I have a large enough city and the state it's apart of wants it to become a state it can be a state? That makes no sense whatsoever
Guam and the Marianas have perhaps more people than Alaska when it first became a state in 1959. All an area needs to become a full state in the union is to have over 60,000 people and approval by Congress. All places mentioned pass the first Constitutional threshold of correct minimum population.
@@vastpeople9623 These three are "City states", that means they only have a small territory but a big population and they are represented and have the same power as the big states. And the state of Bremen is actually made out of two citys that don't even are next to each other.
If DC was given back to Maryland, the federal district, which should not been in the state, also will be carved up just like the statehood proposal. Marylanders don't want retrocession because they don't want to share their power and wealth with DC. DC residents also don't want retrocession, because it would diminish their identity.
@@Lando-kx6so You should have a chit-chat with Puerto Ricans- *multiple* Puerto Ricans. You'll find that they're opinion on the status of Puerto Rico is never unanimous. It's almost as divisive as the mainland's red vs blue
The tea party was founded in 2008 under the motto "taxation without representation". So if they are consistent they would be in favor of DC statehood, right? Of course unless this was never about principles.
It was never about principles. Just like the "pro life" stance by the right who somehow think the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask is too much trampling on rights to save a human life. It's all laughably transparent, yet there is zero self-reflection in the Republican party.
AE the difference is that if you don’t wear a mask it is not directly harming people, but rather failing to take measures to protect them. In addition to this, you can try to avoid other people. Actually, you are meant to. Abortion directly harms people, and those people are defenceless, so it is a different matter. Should you wear a mask? Yes. But the law in general should stop you doing certain things rather than compel you to do things.
@@annoyingperson2255 raise taxes for people making over 400k. Which in the entire US only makes up 1.8% of population. At same time that 1.8% control 25% of wealth in the nation. However, high taxes on someone in DC making 50k a year and no representation in Congress is absolutely upsetting especially while the rich get tax breaks.
@@frenchieewoo3355 Well also dc has some of the most expensive property to income rates on earth second or hire behind Hong Kong and other Asian cities
@@annoyingperson2255 again your talking about a small amount of people in comparison to the entire city. everyone thinks DC and thinks rich politicians but not about every streeet besides Pennsylvania Ave. And a lot of these expensive properties are a result of gentrification and the new crowd not the actual citizens who have been there for generations . DC for the past 60 years had been predominantly black. The past 10 years prices of property have been driven up to push out black people. And those high taxes in addition to lack of representation to change it is an issue.
Let me just add Hamburg, Bremen and Berlin as cities that are the equivalent of states in Germany. Vatican, Monaco and Singapore are cities that are countries, which is an even greater rebuttal!
@@JM-dk4ec it's better when they try to compare something Europe does that won't work here, like roundabouts. they won't work because Americans have lots of Trucks
Please vote, you guys, I am not a US Citizen, but I live in the US as a permanent resident. I can't vote, obviously, but I encourage people to vote. That's your right and responsibility.
One study estimated that by the year 2040, half of Americans will live in just eight states. That means half the population gets 16 senators and the other half gets 84. The entire structure of the Senate needs to be reconsidered.
Fernando Fernandez I’m not suggesting that the Senate wasn’t designed around state representation. I’m suggesting that designing it that way was a bad idea.
@@stonecoggins107 I very much agree. The idea that state legislatures voices should matter as much if not more than the people is frankly a little ridiculous.
That is a notable solution but rendered inert by the wishes of the people. It has been shown through polling and vocal political support that the people of Maryland generally support DC statehood and the people of DC do as well... the evidence also shows that neither favor the retro cession of DC's land back to Maryland. There's many reasons for this but you get the picture: Both groups prefer DC become a state
@@Info_Cntrl Of course they want to be a state rather than being part of a state. It's not about representation at that point; it's about power. You get more power creating a new state than increasing the population of an already existing state.
@@8is The citizens of Maryland and the citizens of DC do not want DC to be part of Maryland. Why should we force that decision upon the people of DC and Maryland? Why should DC become a part of Maryland instead of becoming a part of Virginia?
If you're going to get a new state, make it Puerto Rico. 3 million disenfranchised Americans should make the country ashamed. Or do they still think colonisation to be OK?
It makes more sense to just incorporate the city itself and its residents into Maryland, but leave the federal buildings as a “district.” Virginia basically did that so, why not? They would have state and federal representation. That’s the concern, right? It’s not just a power grab, right?
The problem is Maryland does not want DC. It would tip the balance of power in MD away from the state capitol Annapolis and Baltimore. Neither of those jurisdictions will allow DC to become part of MD. And Virginia’s relationship between the north and south parts of the state is also very tense so the south won’t want Northern VA to get more power either. DC also has it’s own culture that is separate from MD and VA and they don’t want to be part of either of those states.
The only reason that people in DC want statehood that isn't immediately political is so Congress can't control the city budget. But every reason after is political, Dems are so desperate to get more control in Congress because they know how 2020 will turn out, but the counter arguments are valid, for example DC is a federal city meant to be the seat of the nation.
The plan to separate the "city" from the federal district makes complete sense. The city would be composed of the tax-paying people where they live. The federal district would be composed of the places where federal governmental functions occur. I can't understand see why this is so widely opposed - unless it's purely partisanship or Congress' incessant desire for power.
The reason it is opposed is the same reason DC became a separate entity to begin with. This video completely buries the history of DC as an organized entity. When Congress was housed in Philadelphia, they were threatened by rioters that the Philadelphia mayor refused to send the police to control. Congress explicitly wanted a territory in which they had sole control of police, hence the establishment of DC as the new national capitol and as a separate political entity. DC could just as easily be rolled back into Maryland, just as was the Virginia part of DC that was already returned, but the powers that be want two free senators, not representation. If you want representation, move outside of the congressional fief.
Daniyar why would you put hundreds of thousands of people who have worked hard to make their district very successful and have developed a completely different culture than the states around them in a state which is completely different from them just for the sake of there not being another blue state
Daniyar Yeralin Maryland is already big enough for more parts of D.C to be added I’ll say, but to answer other stuff, the founding fathers never wanted D.C to be a state nor have political parties for it was going to divide the nation even more YET DID WE LISTEN??! No! Look where we are now! I honestly say we don’t make D.C a state and leave it between Maryland and Virginia where it belongs, maybe being a capital for the nation but not a state
Ringingbirch65 The people of DC worked hard to develop a successful city and different culture from the states around them and shouldn’t just be thrown in Maryland and Virginia who don’t really represent the people of DC. Maryland and Virginia already benefit a lot from having having millions of people live in their states because of DC being such a big hub
I would then become part of Maryland/Virginia state politics. The entire point of having DC a federal district was that it wouldn't be controlled by other states or argued about, so adding it to them would defeat the entire point. Making it its own state would keep its autonomy and independence from politics, but also give it the representation it deserves.
@@TBH_Inc So DC is not taxed without representation? The US is not world leading in deaths from Corona, despite being one of the most advanced nations in the world? How about the fact that most of that medical technology is inaccessible to the majority of the population since the US is one of the only developed nations that doesn't have a proper healthcare system.
Bryan Noah DC cannot be a state by the Constitution. Virginia took back its portion and Maryland could do the same. Just another metro area in MD with full representation while the small Federal part remains as it is. You know the land for that part of DC came from Maryland to begin with? It just goes back to whence it came.
Sounds smart and gets around adding a state from each party at a time but I fear the real reason that this is being pushed is to swing the balance of the Senate towards dems
no kidding Sherlock, there is also probably no fishing and not large potery, fishing distric, blacksmith or an inn for thirsty adventures i bet. politics sometimes just serve to undermine the needs of people rather than supply and value them
What poll have you read? they voted yes in the last referendum and they only have been given the choice three times in their history. Puerto Rico definitely deserves to be a state
@@alfredolumba7936 They voted yes but it's such a low percentage of the people eligible to vote so it's basically an "undecided." The people there don't really want to be a state for some reason
@@uncletrick1 we've been given the choice 5 times already, the last two voted yes. Congress ignored the 3rd one and the last one only 30% of voters went to vote on it based on sketchy questions.
The only distinction I’d draw with PR is that there is a debate over independence or statehood. It’d be pretty ridiculous for DC to be independent. But aside from that, yeah.
This isn’t about a city becoming a state, it’s about preventing the federal government from being bullied by or dependent on a state, which is why our capital isn’t in Philadelphia. Mobs attacked congress and the state wouldn’t send any help.
Because neither Maryland nor Virginia want DC. Incorporating even half and half of DC into both states would dramatically shift the balance of power within those states. Neither state governments will allow it.
@@nutkja funny how suddenly the idea of representation matters only when the purpose is to give 2 more senators and a representative to congress, but not if it merely gets added to the state it was ceded from in the first place.
@@MrPbhuh They haven't been a part of Maryland in over 200 years. They're a distinct and separate entity from Maryland at this point. And Maryland would gain an extra Representative anyway And your opposition to this seems to be based on partisanship
@@dillonblair6491 those people have the right to be represented, they dont have the right to force others to give them the same representation as a normal state. If they want to be represented they can join Maryland. Yes its a partisan issue, because it would change the balance of power. In US history everytime a new state was added another state was added based on the other party. So Hawaii and Alaska. What is there to balance out DC?
So if it wasn't even planned to be a whole city, and some insist on what "founding fathers" thought or wanted, isn't it obvious that the original mistake was letting it grow to a metropolis in the first place?
The objection, and it's a sound one, is that the seat of the federal government should not be under the authority of any state government. In our current climate, that would likely cause great trouble. The reasoning of the founders still stands today.
"No taxation without representation" If Washington DC isn't allowed to have representation in a federal level, it should split from the US, like the 13 colonies did, hundreds of years ago.
Main arguments against: “The Founding Fathers did not intend for Washington, D.C. to be a state” The founding fathers didn’t intend a lot of things, so that’s why we can change laws and amend the Constitution, they knew that not everything would be the same forever. Also, for example, they didn’t intend places like Hawaii to be a state, or Alaska. “Washington, D.C. is a city, not a state” It’s not a state because you don’t want it to be one. Nothing in the Constitution outlaws the Douglass Commonwealth from being a state as long as there is a federal district, which the bill includes. “Washington, D.C. doesn’t have any logging, or mining” Countries like San Marino and Singapore do not have logging and mining industries. They are functioning COUNTRIES, they are completely autonomous and they don’t have a problem. The reason why republicans don’t want the Douglass Commonwealth to be a state is for political reasons, and this is a precedent born out of slavery. If you are afraid that giving people representation will destroy your party’s political power, then your party should work to expand their interests so you don’t have to constantly deny people’s rights.
@theadam22 I mean in the way Washington DC could be if it's approved as the 51 state, if approved it won't turn into the "nation of Washington DC", but in the city-state of Washington DC, because that 'state' will be made of just one city, and that's the case of Mexico City and other cities around the globe
"The founding fathers did not intend for Washington DC to be a state" I'm pretty sure they didn't intend for black people to be treated as human beings either my dude
"The founding fathers didn't intend for DC to become a state" The founding fathers didn't intend for the US have anything past the Louisiana purchase... *Here Mexico, I guess this land is your again!*
@@rykloog9578 they didn't you're comparing apples to oranges they didn't want DC to be a state because they didn't want anyone to have political power over the capital
Last Nyanmurai I admit that I was exaggerating. I don’t think that the capital should be in a state; however, the District of Columbia is much more than the capital. D.C. includes land which isn’t a functioning part of the capital. The idea is to separate the parts of D.C. which aren’t part of the governing capital from the capital itself. So the capital will still be not in any state.
Apparently on March 22nd oversight Democrats will be hearing on DC Statehood, so if they eliminate the filibuster, convince people like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to vote for the bill, it’s likely it’s gonna happen this year
@@w41duvernay That’s why I asked the question, is it an option. Idk if it’s even an option. May be in the founding of DC Maryland and Virginia ceded that land for all time or something. Didn’t know giving the people of DC more options made me white with a capital W. 😂
@@LeaderV4 I mean it is an option. The land that Virginia ceded was returned to them. It just that, any retrocession (that's what returning the land is called BTW) would have to be agreed upon by state of Maryland, and they probably wouldn't agree to it, because that would mean sharing power with the Washington locals and that is not necessarily something the Maryland government wants.
"Right now, [the Republicans] oppose DC statehood, but it only takes one election to change that" **shows all three branches as blue** Anyone else get a huge smirk on their face? 😏
@Neil Rusling why would Puerto Rico being a state make republicans happy? The demographics of the island make it that it would almost certainly be blue
@@feldspaarr It is because the island is socially conservative and has politicians that are affiliated with the Republican party, at the same time has politicians affiliated with the Democrat party and many of their residents want more progressive policies. It would be a swing state for sure.
"He walked to freedom, but he...he didn't walk to equality." Thank you for this video. I knew why D.C. wasn't initially a state, but never knew about the fight for statehood.
3:30 This must be one of the weakest reasonings ever said in any government of the world. AFAIK, there are 3 requirements a territory must fulfill to gain statehood: -The inhabitants wish statehood (as seen there, they do). -They are sympathetic with the principles laid in the Constitution (they've been for so many years). -Enough population and resources to support state government and its share of the Federal Government (the former they do, the later they've done, even without representation).
@mrlnwrld Let me get your point: Since their major industry is "federal government", they don't have the resources to support their state's government? I don't think so. I think that, if there's enough money to support a local government (AFAIK, the mayor office isn't funded by the federal budget, but on a local basis), then they have enough money to turn it into a state. As they video says. DC is already operating like a state in many things, they just don't have any say in the Congress.
@mrlnwrld So, where do you leave the tourism? Financial business? Education and researching? Not every community-supporting industry falls on primary or secondary sectors. There's the tertiary sector, and DC, as a state, can thrive on it.
@mrlnwrld On paper, it sounds like a plausible solution, the Union keeps itself intact, DC gets representation and control on its local budget. And, following this idea, Maryland would be the gaining state, since it was its territory before (Virginia's territory was re-ceded back in 1846). However... I don't think anyone involved would like the idea: -DC wants statehood of itself, not getting rolled into another state. -Marylanders (or Virginians, if DC goes there) would see Washington as a siphon of the state budget. -GOP would see brand new votes favoring the Dems in both Houses (since DC is one of the bluest places in the US). -Dems would see less electoral votes for the Presidential Election (since DC's 3 votes would be redistributed, and probably at least one of them's gonna go to a red state). It's such a complex situation, where no solution can leave everyone satisfied. But I agree with you, rolling DC into an already established state sounds really good.
The issue is the senate. Washington DC is full of very liberal people. It’s political from both sides Personally, I think it should remain not a state. In Australia we have our capital a it’s own territory. I believe that should be the norm (unless your capital is massive, like London)
@@zachb1706 That's quite a bad comparison. The ACT and NT have the 2 smallest populations, and they both have representation in both houses of parliament. DC gets a non voting member of the house and 0 senators and it has a larger population than 2 states (very soon 4)
@@Apelles42069 what are you talking about. dc has representation. where it counts anyway. we all know the vote itself doesnt mean anything. it's the influence. that's basics.
@@Apelles42069 what did I just write? EVERYONE, except you, knows the vote doesnt matter. the influence is what matters. they have a seat and that's what matters. besides im pretty sure op meant randos. not political figures.
Maybe the republican party should find a way to attract more people to their party instead of worrying about some citizens getting the ability to vote that cannot vote now 🙄
Is there a reason the city can’t just be absorbed into one of the surrounding states? Would seem to solve the political issue without leaving people disenfranchised
It would be a lot easier legally to do it like that, but DC has its own unique identity that it would lose to an extent if it was a plain old city in Maryland, and people like keeping their identities
"Washington DC is a city not a state"
Then the concept of city-states will blow his mind.
Like Berlin in Germany, it's the capital and a city state
@Elijah Edric Guinto how about vatican lol
@Lovecraft It's DC resident's decision, and i think its clear they want statehood
@@n.m.8802 I remembered last year I stumbled across some forum where people were arguing whether Singapore should be considered a country or not cause we're "too small" xD
@Lovecraft except, maryland doesn't want it...
"A city cannot be a State".
- Vatican city has left the chat.
In fact, the Vatican is a "city" *within* a city (Rome).
San Marino lol
Rip monaco
Vatican city isn't a helpful example, I think. It's entire economy consists of fees to enter museum and the sale of postage stamps. It doesn't have even permanent population.
Laughs in 19 sentry Germany
"The founding fathers didn't want DC to be a state."
The founding fathers also didnt want there to be party lines (Democrat and Republican) because they saw our current situation hundreds of years ago. We are divided and they never wanted this for us.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand." - Abraham Lincoln on slavery.
And yet here we are. Our country is just about as divided as it can get.
marshall branin dude if you still want there advice I’m assuming your slow
I never understood the party argument people use. Every country has parties and party politics.
@Nathan Foster I do vote. Every single election year. They didn't want parties because they knew it would be divisive for our country. History does tend to repeat itself and they learned from watching other countries have parties.
@@ricardobarahona3939 read my reply to nathan.
Abraham Lincoln's quote wasn't warning against a divided country through two parties, he was already living through it. Better person to quote would probably be Washington.
"Taxation without representation"
Isn't this the reason americans rebelled against british rule in the first place
Yes
Lol
Yes. Giving it more reason for it to be a state. The 600,000 residents of Washington, DC pay federal taxes with no representation.
Ironic
@Non Filios Tuos Videbis Vacillantes well then how do you plan on representing them with the VOTE, they need to be able to VOTE on the issues that affect them
Puerto Rico has 3 million americans, with only a non voting member in The House of Representatives representing us. Puerto Ricans have serve in multiple wars including WW1, WW2, Vietnam War, Korean War, our current conflicts in the middle east. Were treated as second class citizens we can't vote for president only in the primaries. i ask Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC.
And you’ll get it.
Puerto Ricans have the choice of statehood, it is on the ballot most elections, but they vote no. If Puerto Rico becomes a state, they will have to pay federal income tax, so most people vote no.
We do not need Puerto Rico!! Your service is done !! Please take independence and go back !!!
But I Don’t Think Republicans (Holding Majority In Senate) Would Like 2 More Democratic Senators In The Senate & 3 - 6 More In The Senate.
Edit: But I Don’t Think Republicans (Holding Majority In Senate) Would Like 2 More Democratic Senators In The Senate & 3 - 6 Representatives In The House.
Hakohito I’m a 90s baby’s mijo. No te creas !!
I’m simply touched by what the lady said. Here’s to equality.
@Lovecraft k
@Lovecraft k
@Lovecraft you're right, let's stop with the faffing and just give Washington their statehood instead of dragging it out
Lovecraft your name is kinda fitting because Lovecraft was an antisemite and a racist
DC wasn't a state for very good reasons and no one cared because it was virtually uninhabited. So if the problem an abundance of unrepresented people then just have the states surrounding around DC annex the land leaving the portion carved out shown @3:01. Tipping the balance of power will only tear us further apart.
I like the idea that "the founding fathers didn't intend for x" hey they didn't intend for a lot of things in 1776. But times change and humans adapt.
If their models never changed, we would still be living with slaves...
Actually, maybe that's why Republicans keep making this argument...
"times change and humans adapt"
Apparently not some dirt bag politicians.
whhat do u know republlicans are conservatives
They also didn’t intend for women and black people to vote lol
The founding fathers didn't intend for slaves to be viewed as people. Let's see them defend that.
“Dc shouldn’t get a vote because it’s not a state”
“Then make us a state”
“No”
Azulmine Nobody in DC wants to become a state . This is just another trick by democrats to gain more power
@@christiansoldier77 A statehood referendum was voted on by DC citizens in 2016 and resulted in 78% in favor of statehood. You can literally check the 2016 general election archive. Took me just a couple minutes to find.
@@mason_yt444 Yes but it is all a scheme cooked up by Democrats. DC has been around 240 years but now all of a sudden they must become a state ??? USE YOUR BRAIN
@@christiansoldier77 bro use yours 😭😭
@@christiansoldier77 it's not as if this is a new issue, it has been for decades. Yes, they feel more left out when it's a Republican government, which isn't unlogical, they haven't voted Republican ever in their history, while the federal government is running their lives. I can understand why you want a 'neutral' federal territory, but their population deserves representation as well. At the very least, Home Rule that doesn't get overruled by a hostile federal government, the population getting the same benefits as the other citizens, and giving voting rights for their House Representative, and the citizens perhaps voting rights in another state. Simply ignoring the people living in DC is not a good strategy.
Washington DC is the most state-like non-state.
A fellow grey fan perhaps?
Puerto Rico ?
Puerto Rico has way more people then Washington D.C. and it actually has the land of a state as well. Puerto Rico is like a state, Washington DC is a city that doesn’t belong to any state (for somewhat good reasons; does that outweighs taxation without representation, idk that’s not my job but there are good reasons)
I disagree... In my opinion Puerto Rico is way more state-like.
Puerto Rico: am I a joke to you?
"there is not manufacturing, mining or logging industry in DC", because we all know those are the only 3 industries in America lol
Ikr
Besides, in a city of 700,000 people there's surely to be at least one factory manufacturing something.
Sam ~ No they are all just politicians lol
D.C has tourism but according to republicans that is not an industry
*Looks at Monaco for mining,logging and manufacturing* nope
"Washington DC is a city, not a state"
*laughs in Singapore* (an island, a country, and a city)
Singapore is tiny, yet so diverse. I like it! 🇸🇬
@Jack Tapman Did you mean Monaco?
!!! We have several (federal) states which also happen to be cities here in Germany (Bremen, Hamburg and also Berlin).
Master Fortune I think he **did** mean to say “Monaco” instead of “Morocco”. In reality, Morocco is much larger in area, as it is slightly larger than the U.S. state of Texas.
I’ve found that the three nations of Morocco, Monaco, and Montenegro all sound very alike, and each of these nations within Africa and Europe lie relatively close to the Mediterranean Sea. I understand the confusion here.
They even have the color red in each of their flags (Morocco, Monaco, and Montenegro from left to right respectively):
🇲🇦🇲🇨🇲🇪
That doesn't make it a state though. An island, a country, and a city doesn't make something a state
DC and Puerto Rico: want to become states
Georgia: we will decide your fate.
Joe Manchin wont vote for it
A Georgian here! If my dreams come true they’ll be states!
@Aarush Walia really I think he said no
@Aarush Walia he only said he'd vote for Puerto Rico
Hopefully democrats win Georgia sadly I doubt it
*1700s* :- No Taxation without Representation
*2020* :- Taxation without Representation
1700-2020*: Taxation without Representation
2020 Republicans: "We will sell our souls to the Devil in order to keep control of the U.S. Senate. And if D.C. becomes a State, we would lose the Senate forever."
people in dc are allowed to vote correct?
Adam Clark yes, but taxation without representation still stands because they have no representative in congress who can vote on bills.
@@Manolojimrne wasn't that the idea so that the capital would stay neutral and prevent divides that could potentially harm the federal offices
If DC, Puerto Rico, and Guam become a state.....
Republicans hyperventilating
Absolutely salivating
Guam would have a very small population for a state, by far and away the least people.
Should just join hawaii
Guam would never become a state too far away and it would be a mess for elections
I saw make Northern California a state then to even out the power
*I mean, if my country is just a territory;*
*I don't see one reason to pay federal* *taxes*
REPENT , for the Kindom of Heaven is at hand
It doesn’t matter if it isn’t written law, all that matters is that the government enforced it
*If no one got it, I'm talking abt. Puerto* *Rico not US*
@@MarcozExe It's sad that the people from the US are still not concerned with the problems going on in Puerto Rico. To see that Washington DC has a better chance of becoming the 51st state is genuinely infuriating.
Julia Hernandez It could still be considered a steppingstone, once we have the ball rolling with the 51st state then we will start again looking for the next one and that 100% is Puerto Rico
@@mrpw1402 idk tbh, I don't think being a state would be that good right now
Something really perverse about a rep from Arizona stating that "the founding fathers didn't want DC to be a state." The founding fathers never imagined Arizona as a state either.
Except the founding fathers clearly didn't want it to be a state, because if they did, they would have made it one. Meanwhile, they created provisions in the constitution for new states like Arizona to join the union. So they clearly imagined that the U.S. would add new states, even if they didn't know which ones, but also clearly meant for DC to remain a capital territory.
@@1000rogueleader they also said “taxation without representation is tyranny”. DC pays federal taxes.
@@1000rogueleader also the founding fathers didn't want you you vote. Any woman to vote, nor any non white to vote. Also did I mention You? They don't think you were capable of voting. Just letting you know.
@@ryanpushkarna858 yeah and they also explicitly said dc can't be a state. So what's your point?
@@basicallyalandershowitz seeing as they are contradicting themselves, either don't listen to people 300 years ago who dont understand the current situation, or stop taxing them federally and give them semi auto status, with their own legislation and stuff.
I always laugh when someone uses the intent of the founding fathers to justify a policy in 2020.
Brazil is also a federal country and the capital isn't a state, it's a federal district (for example it doesn't have a mayor, only a governor) but everybody can vote there because we have popular vote here and multiple parties, so no need to worry about an electorial college.
Exactly. As if modern Republicans remotely resemble traditional fiscal conservatives.
@@Forlfir DC's only problem is that it does not have senators due to lack of statehood. DC votes in presidential elections where it has 3 electoral college votes.
Agreed
😂😂😂
It would be called “Area 51”
I’ll find the door
BlockedUser yeah but they aren’t that punny
I’m not staying
You are brilliant
Ur funny
@@gezi5927 underrated;
Nah politicians are lizards
Why not make DC and Puerto Rico both states so we can have an even 52?
Wyvernblue, both would lean democrat so there is no way republicans would allow it :(
@@memphisstef3808 That's why you do it when you control the White House, The House, and the Senate at the same time.
@@memphisstef3808 funny though for Puerto Rico. Most Republican presidents wanted to make it a state.
Puerto Rico is a country under American ownership that deserves independence
@Martha Speaks From what I seen in discussions in other comments. It's 50/50.
"The Founding Fathers did not intend for Washington DC to be a state."
The Founding Fathers are dead, Paul. They have been for more than 200 years.
He is a conservative republican
For him the founding fathers are placed higher than gods
Yeah but it got smaller at 68 square miles
Thankfully, the constitution lives on.
@@eckz8659 and if the same constitution that was there before the 1860’s lived on, most of us wouldn’t even be here on the internet
@@s4gr_n0s3y The constitution never legalized slavery originally. It was just never banned. Don't blame the constitution for an issue that never existed.
Republican politicians: “DC cannot be a state, because it is a singular city.”
Germany: [laughs in Berlin, Hamburg, and Bremen]
The state Bremen (Freie Hansestadt Bremen) actually consists of two cities: Bremen and Bremerhaven.
Mexico City is also a state
Jakarta is a province too. which mean whole jakarta area is a capital
Luxembourg, Monaco
Vatican City do we really need to say more 😂
Vatican City too?
US: Heavily taxing their people
UK, crying: Just like dad.
so underrated
Also, without representation.
Trumo should free them of taxes !
how dare he to taxes them with high taxes. !
us is way worse
@@meferswift if their rich then yes
this is why you shouldn't have a 2 party system
Why does the amount of parties matter?It would make vote splitting a night mare making everyone feel less represented and it wouldnt solve any issues we currently have.There are such thing as gun loving pro life democrats and pro choice massive gun law Republicans.
@Chooey Sooares yes, but those coalitions change and vary throughout the years, while the only major shift in recent years was the democratic party moving away from racism, and that was almost 50 years ago!
@Chooey Sooares Having multiple parties allows people's views to be more closely represented. it is important.
Why is this why we shouldn't have a two party system?
Wait, do you mean we should only have a 1 party system, or a many party system?
“The founding fathers did not intend for Washington DC to be a state”
The founding fathers did not intend for minority’s to have rights either
This isn't a good comparison. Most of what the Founders wanted with regards to legal/Constitutional issues have merit. Some of their private/political/philosophical views are indeed antiquated, but when something is Constitutional it becomes law.
To say that we should disregard the Constitution solely because the Founders had some bad antiquated ideas, is dangerous for a Republic (or a democracy that values the rule of law).
The District of Columbia should NOT become a state because the Constitution makes it improper and therefore illegal for the nation's capital to be a state. D.C. would not exist but for this very fact, so making it a state negates the reason for its very existence.
I'm a big fan of changing SOME of the Constitution via the Amendment process, but until then, respecting the enumerated powers is very important.
Side note: it's still debatable as to just how racist the Founders actually were, to what extent, and which ones. Most had slaves, yes, but there's some reason to believe that many of the Founders actually recognized that at some point slavery would eventually have to come to an end. They were very forward-thinking for their time.
@EmperorKleetorisTheCuckolder why should DC be its own state? Couldn’t residential areas of DC be ceded to Maryland?
You’re comparing a city to a person
@Mami Makala DC isn't supposed to be a state that's the end of it.
Doesn't touch on the history of DC being a Black metropolis and how intentional racist disenfranchisement is a big factor as well.
🙄 Racism seems to be the excuse for everything wrong apparently.
Its called focusing on the main point of the story. Lots of stuff they didn't touch, but then the video would be hours long.
drink15 -- Even if it was hours long someone would still complain about how something was left out and claim something presumptuous like "it's more nuance than this simplified version."
The issue of DC not being a state predates it having a Black majority. Last I checked, DC only gained a Black majority in the 1940s-1950s. DC statehood has been debated since the 1800s when DC was only 20 percent Black and the answer was still. No.
@Billionaire# Vision
I am an historian so there goes that argument.
I think we should have 53 states: one nation, *indivisible*
Okay. D.C., Puerto Rico and what?
Eken 17 Guam lol
I'm from Guam, an American citizen and no federal tax 😁
@Elijah Edric Guinto Guamanians are already US Citizens, they have the right to live anywhere in the US they want to, same as Puertorriquenos.
hahahaha nice prime number joke
"Washington DC is a city, not a state"
Singapore, Monaco, and Vatican City: *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
If a city within a city can be a state, so can DC. If a city island powerhouse like Singapore can be a state, so can DC.
and Monaco
They aren't states controlled by a government, they are their own nation and government and its been like that for centuries
@Suspicious man in a flower costume, she was talking about nation-states, which can be called states
Wasn't DC founded so no state has control over the capital?
@Chunky N Funky It was a federal district, not DC necessarily.
Technically, giving DC statehood wouldn't (necessarily) give Democrats an extra seat in the House. Yes, DC is overly Democratic, but the House is locked in at 435. An additional state would cause a reapportionment of seats based on population. (Basically it would take away a seat from the 'most represented' state.)
The Senate point is definitely true though.
technically they would get an additional seat [it would temporarily be 436] as seats only get reallocated at the next census, but yeah the main deal is the senate anyway
I think what they're trying to say is that they'll get a 'free' seat. Sure, the seat count won't change, but every state gets atleast one seat. So DC would get a seat, which would probably always go Blue
Lol that’s ironic is DC is being represented by a black woman that has no voting powers lol
honestly 💀 like "hmm where have we seen that happening b4"
How oppressive !
Wbat a racist
Kallen Murphy it’s historical irony
300th like.
Vox has a way to somehow make you want to fight and be passionate about an issue in 7 minutes in 30 seconds.
The reason why the founding fathers didnt want D.C. to be in a state was so no state could claim control of the United States. This was back when Washington D.C. was a field with Congress in the middle. Times have changed now and the founding fathers would allow D.C. statehood since there are people belong taxed without representation.
Very true--the founding fathers would give DC statehood because of Taxation without Representation. As for the issue of federal buildings not being in a state, we could easily form a Federal District that would cover all the land with Federal buildings and make DC a state that's just right next to the federal district. Problem solved with DC Statehood!
Very true and I wholeheartedly approve of them keeping the none state inside of the new state
How do you know what they would do.
Isn't "taxation without representation" the reason behind the settlers wanting independence from Britain?
yes, but the founders wanted a small area immune to local corruption as a HQ for the federal government to operate, its actually not that hard to understand. It's not about DC being exploited for their taxes, it's about the federal infrastructure not being infiltratable. making the area even smaller is a decent solution.
But when The Founding Fathers created DC, they didnt expect it to be a huge metropolis. They thought it would be busy with congressmen for a couple months then a ghost town for the rest of the year.
@@SomeKata If you watched the video they mention an easy solution to that problem. The vast majority of D.C is residential only a small portion is the Capitol, simply make that small portion the Capitol problem solved.
@@greg-iw7mf The Founding Fathers didnt imagined the other states added by the USA, American Terrortories and nor did they expected black people and women to vote, they also didnt expected to LGBT people became normalised.
@@askosefamerve they did know that other states would be added that they established procedures of territories becoming states in the constitution. DC was and is still an American territory so i dont understand the claim of "the FF didnt imagine American Territories". There were plenty of territories out west and south wanting to join the US shortly after the revolutionary war.
Why are you bringing up race and LGBT?
my argument is about the balance of federal and state powers...unfortunately throughout past and modern history, federal districts on local/state jurisdictions have been victims of corruption, political imbalances, injustices and in worst cases, overtakings.
*Taxation without Representation* ....
*Sounds like a reason for revolution*
* 1770's revolutionary music intensifies *
If DC didn't became a state DC should rebel against The Federal Government just like the early Americans did to the British....
With what? They’ll get mowed down
Nope their normal people they aren’t some sorta farmers who carry an arsenal of guns they do things diplomatically
DC Revolution when?
Sanjar Javed “Normal people” don’t have guns?
@@natedavis3740 not in most of western civilisation
When the Founding Fathers were alive, Washington, D.C. was a swamp. The idea of denying statehood to the city that exists today based on what long dead men thought of a swamp is idiotic.
Is it? Maybe find out why DC shouldn't be a state. Theres a lot of compelling points on both sides.
@@thesillyseal284 Regardless of whether or not it should be a state, they're saying basing present-day choices on outdated intentions and information is idiotic.
Micah-David Saunders Such as you haven’t still gone to investigate reason for each sides case you can’t call it idiotic without study the pros and cons of both sides their is no 100% correct or best in politics
@@natenae8635 I feel like you misunderstand my point. I'm not for or against making DC a state (because I didn't know it was an issue until watching this video). I am simply stating that if one of your main arguments for or against something is "That's how people who lived ~250 years ago wanted it", that isn't necessarily sound logic.
@@thesillyseal284 DC absolutely should be a state and the only "compelling" reason against it is that Republicans think it's unfair that they wouldn't control the senate if all Americans got representation. This is a democratic republic, there shouldn't be an argument against a single citizen being unrepresented, let alone seven hundred thousand of us. The same goes for PR and all the US territories.
*DC:* WE SHOULD BE THE 51st STATE!
*Me:* *coughs in puerto rican*
First we need to solve Puerto Rico's corruption in its Education department. The Federal Gov literally gave them more money and the secretary embezzled it to buy a mansion. Then he gets imprisoned for only several months before returning to the job. Why does no one talk about this.... Puerto Ricans should have the same value to the government as mainland citizens do.
If u watched the video, I don’t think u pay tax
And guess who does
@@ajegs2082
"Residents of Puerto Rico are required to pay some U.S. federal taxes, like Medicare and social security. But most residents do not have to pay the federal personal income tax"
Nah Puerto Rico should be independent
It is not a choice between the two. I'm all for statehood for both. That is assuming Puerto Rico wants to become a state. I'm not sure that is a decided by the people.
Then add Washington DC and Puerto Rico at the same time.
both will likely happen now since the democrats have the senate.
@@somepersononplanetearth9577 I'm not sure about that. Support in Puerto Rico for becoming a state is much lower than in DC.
@@flintleviathan5075 well they literally just held a referendum and voted to join the us.
@@somepersononplanetearth9577 That's great! I hope it happens.
@@flintleviathan5075 yeah, and by the looks of it the democrats will pass it along with dc!
This happened in Mexico City a few years ago, and since then we’ ve seen major improvements. Keep pressuring and go ahead
> major improvements
> _Dra. Claudia Sheinbaum_
Why did El DF become just Mexico city?
La CDMX isn't technically a state, because it isn't divided into municipalities, amongst other things.
@Kansas Geoff If you paid attention there has been more Mexicans fleeing the US than those fleeing in. Nice try racist.
3:23
"Founding fathers didn't intend for Washington to be a state"
Well Hawaii wasn't even a state before it was stolen*, so you think it's really up to their intentions.
all land is "stolen"
True indeed. America has stolen many lands in the past - and especially Hawaii, a symbol of US imperialism.
Yea as a Native Hawaiian I suggest you look further into that the story is quite sad
@@user-xt3xn2hl4e that's just human history every tribe nation civilization stole land its a fact just because the USA did it better and at a bigger scale doesn't mean nothing, that's how evolution works bigger and better societies and cultures will take over lesser and weaker if they can't defend themselves
@@happypt2929 I'm speaking this issue from a political standpoint. There is no need to hold a conversation on evolution right now - although I'd be happy to talk about your "science" later. Furthermore, your statement is fallacious, as it constitutes an "appeal to nature" logical fallacy.
06:10 the irony of a special forces soldiers (the unit motto is "de oppresor libre" which is to "free the oppressed") in riot gear "controlling" protestors is one of the most ironic things ive seen in the Army.
rioters aren't oppressed though, the fact that they can riot shows their freedom. in places like china you just get shot and executed for protesting the government.
Adam Clark Protesters gets shot and killed in the US as well.
@@nathanolds6863 gimme and example from recent times
@@nathanolds6863 nothing at all like china, in the us there is accountability
Not as bad as China, because the US is not a dictatorship, but it may well be the worst in the western world at the moment.
The police have turned callously violent against protesters.
"The founding fathers didn't intend for dc to be a state"
The founding fathers also didn't want the government to be split into 2 parties and yet it did.
Just say you guys don't want them to have statehood.
the founding fathers may not have intended that but the way first past the post electiosn work favors only 2 party systems
the founding fathers also didn't intend dc to be a thing, it was originally going to be a small district in new york. You only need to watch 10 seconds of hamilton to know that much.
@@adminbrave4938 I never said they did intend for it to be a thing. My point is that using that as an excuse to not make it a state seems hypocritical to me because they still went against what the founding fathers said.
also almost all founding fathers had slaves, the country is different enough today that it shouldnt really matter what people from 200 years ago wanted
@@g2theartist i know i meant that in the way of it was originally gonna be a small place IN a major city, but at this point its a massive city within its own right. im still a little iffy on wiether or not it should be a full state in itself, id rather it just be a city in maryland that way they can get there representation. secondly the ideals that its pop is as high as some states doesnt really matter, as large cities also have that high pop. but since i dont live there id rather the people make the choice.
Does this explain why Democrats didn't do it when they controlled all 3 branches in the 1990's and 2000's?
Because Republican corruption is matched only by Democrats being unable to take advantage of a good political situation.
Weird, I thought politicians play to win
It's because the moderate Democrats didn't want to give power to the progressives.
Because Democrats only controlled both chambers of Congress and the Presidency simultaneously for two years, from 1993 until 1995. In those days, a lot of the Democratic members of the House and Senators were from rural and conservative states and districts. The Democratic majority in the US House tonight is a lot more urban and suburban based and a lot more liberal and moderate leaning than it was back then.
Senate Filibuster.
Why not just reduce the size of the "Federal District" as outlined in that plan, but then just dissolve the rest of the city back into Maryland? The people gain their representation, and the political math remains undisturbed. Seems like the most suitable compromise.
Wouldn't the additional population of Maryland still give them one more representative?
michael You know, Senate
Both the people of DC don't want to be absorbed into Maryland, and Marylander's don't wan't the citizens of DC to join their state. When last polled, only 26% of Marylander's wanted DC to be absorbed into the state. The principle foundation of Democracy is self-determination, and as such we could not ethically force the people of DC and Maryland to enter in to a compromise which neither of them want. Instead, why don't we take the Appalachian areas of Western North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee, which are distinctly different to the rest of their states, and join them into their own state, giving Republicans 2 more solid red seats in the senate?
Maryland does not want DC. It would shift the balance of power away from Annapolis and Baltimore. MD will never let it happen.
This solution has been offered numerous times and it is always rejected. They want to become a state and get the two additional Democrat Senators. It is entirely political in nature and they could have representation through Maryland relatively quickly if they agreed to it. The argument is that there is an ulterior motive to trying to give DC statehood which is to change the outlook of the Senate.
"DC can't be a state" "Why?" "Because"
Because it's a city? Why not just have it join the states it came from? "Because no"
@@turkeysamr "because it's a city" I don't believe size is the issue here.
@@alexnavas2802 then what is the issue? If I and the majority of my country votes it wants to be a state does that mean it should be a state?
@@turkeysamr well, do D.C. residents want to join Maryland or become a state? I do believe that D.C. and other U.S. territories should have a say in running the country
@@alexnavas2802 ah so if I have a large enough city and the state it's apart of wants it to become a state it can be a state? That makes no sense whatsoever
*”Taxation without representation” in the Capitol of the United States of America lol*
the solution is simple. Those who live in D.C don’t have to pay federal income taxes.
@@promoteroflibertyfromgloba8225 That's just heaven
@@promoteroflibertyfromgloba8225 at that point we all move to dc
@@promoteroflibertyfromgloba8225 **everyone proceeds to move to dc**
Dc and Puerto Rico. And make American somoans citizens instead of nationals
Tiefkühlen agree but they don’t want it though
Tiefkühlen they don’t want it
Guam and the Marianas have perhaps more people than Alaska when it first became a state in 1959. All an area needs to become a full state in the union is to have over 60,000 people and approval by Congress. All places mentioned pass the first Constitutional threshold of correct minimum population.
nope
@Tiefkühlen US ain’t gonna give up Puerto Rico
In Germany, 3 of the 16 federal states are *cities* ! Bremen, Hamburg and Berlin, which is the capital city of Germany!!
No clash between Federal Gov and Berlin State laws?
@@vastpeople9623 Not more or less than with other states that have more territory and less citizens.
@@vastpeople9623 These three are "City states", that means they only have a small territory but a big population and they are represented and have the same power as the big states. And the state of Bremen is actually made out of two citys that don't even are next to each other.
Americans don't want to be like Europeans. That's why they left.
@@uncletrick1 the germany they left was nothing like the current government
If Liechtenstein can be a sovereign country, D.C. can certainly be considered a state.
Unless Republicans are able to get a state its never going to happen. Thats the problem with a two party system.
Well dc was never suppose to be a state what they can do is put government buildings in one place then split it between b three other states
“The obstacle to statehood is politics”
That’s been the case for 200 years
I love this channel so much, they put so much effort into every video and are incredibly informative about so many issues. Thanks Vox!
They vastly oversimplified this topic so I would recommend doing your own research if you are curious.
they do also have a lot of false things
Why not just shrink the surrounding area of DC and add the rest to Maryland or Virginia
cause dems are desperate for extra electoral votes, and seats in Congress. In fact, that's literally the only reason the Dems attempting this.
Virginia had got its part in 1847. If retrocession does happen, it'll go back to Maryland only.
But both Maryland and DC said no.
@@risannd why would Maryland say no, also it’s a bad idea because the fed area was meant to be autonomous
If DC was given back to Maryland, the federal district, which should not been in the state, also will be carved up just like the statehood proposal.
Marylanders don't want retrocession because they don't want to share their power and wealth with DC. DC residents also don't want retrocession, because it would diminish their identity.
@@risannd thing is it is not good if we carve up the federal district
52, Puerto Rico should finally decide on statehood or independence.
They did but mainland shot it down
PR wants both lol
@@sinoroman To be fair I think any of the alternatives is better than being a territory
Puerto Rico needs to be independent. Any "Puerto Rican" that thinks otherwise has a colonised mindset and aren't true Puerto Ricans.
@@Lando-kx6so You should have a chit-chat with Puerto Ricans- *multiple* Puerto Ricans. You'll find that they're opinion on the status of Puerto Rico is never unanimous. It's almost as divisive as the mainland's red vs blue
Looks like the Simposns episode where Bart accidentaly answeres that America has 51 states would happen afterall.
It's going to happen! The Simpsons predicted it!
@@casual_ice_consumer4148 oh schist another simpsons prediction!
@@casual_ice_consumer4148 The idea of a 51st state isn't that new
no
There’s also Porto Rico that should become a state.
The tea party was founded in 2008 under the motto "taxation without representation". So if they are consistent they would be in favor of DC statehood, right? Of course unless this was never about principles.
It was never about principles. Just like the "pro life" stance by the right who somehow think the minor inconvenience of wearing a mask is too much trampling on rights to save a human life. It's all laughably transparent, yet there is zero self-reflection in the Republican party.
AE most republican politicians have said that wearing a mask is good but it is illegal to force someone to wear something
AE the difference is that if you don’t wear a mask it is not directly harming people, but rather failing to take measures to protect them. In addition to this, you can try to avoid other people. Actually, you are meant to. Abortion directly harms people, and those people are defenceless, so it is a different matter. Should you wear a mask? Yes. But the law in general should stop you doing certain things rather than compel you to do things.
It was about White People's reaction to the 1st Black president. Let's state facts here!
"Taxation without representation"
Ironic
The capitol of the united states lol
Dc has voted for a party that claims they will raise taxes. Dc realising they now have high taxes.😭😢
@@annoyingperson2255 raise taxes for people making over 400k. Which in the entire US only makes up 1.8% of population. At same time that 1.8% control 25% of wealth in the nation. However, high taxes on someone in DC making 50k a year and no representation in Congress is absolutely upsetting especially while the rich get tax breaks.
@@frenchieewoo3355 Well also dc has some of the most expensive property to income rates on earth second or hire behind Hong Kong and other Asian cities
@@annoyingperson2255 again your talking about a small amount of people in comparison to the entire city. everyone thinks DC and thinks rich politicians but not about every streeet besides Pennsylvania Ave. And a lot of these expensive properties are a result of gentrification and the new crowd not the actual citizens who have been there for generations . DC for the past 60 years had been predominantly black. The past 10 years prices of property have been driven up to push out black people. And those high taxes in addition to lack of representation to change it is an issue.
D.C. is the "I'm not like other states" of states
a states mean you had land owner and power enough to be states... dc just center of power.. but whatever...
@@campkira it's a meme lol
"A city cannot be a State"
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Let me just add Hamburg, Bremen and Berlin as cities that are the equivalent of states in Germany. Vatican, Monaco and Singapore are cities that are countries, which is an even greater rebuttal!
Did you know that City-State is word?
@@janniskoester8640 still have no relevation to how US states work.
@@JM-dk4ec it's better when they try to compare something Europe does that won't work here, like roundabouts. they won't work because Americans have lots of Trucks
Montreal in Quebec aswell
This country is ripping itself apart.
It always has been
Have you been sleeping the last 3.5 years?
Please vote, you guys, I am not a US Citizen, but I live in the US as a permanent resident. I can't vote, obviously, but I encourage people to vote. That's your right and responsibility.
VOTE TRUMP
@@YouYou-sm8tf How’d this age?
One study estimated that by the year 2040, half of Americans will live in just eight states. That means half the population gets 16 senators and the other half gets 84.
The entire structure of the Senate needs to be reconsidered.
The entire point of the senate was state representation not population representation that's the purpose of the House of Representatives
Fernando Fernandez I’m not suggesting that the Senate wasn’t designed around state representation. I’m suggesting that designing it that way was a bad idea.
@@stonecoggins107 I very much agree. The idea that state legislatures voices should matter as much if not more than the people is frankly a little ridiculous.
You have GOT to be joking right??? Ever take, idk, a BASIC US history class?
@@nepatrul6075 this may be shocking, but it is possible for someone to receive an education and come away with a different opinion than your own
Why not give the rest of the city to Maryland and leave the few government buildings in DC? The people would get there represention.
That is a notable solution but rendered inert by the wishes of the people. It has been shown through polling and vocal political support that the people of Maryland generally support DC statehood and the people of DC do as well... the evidence also shows that neither favor the retro cession of DC's land back to Maryland. There's many reasons for this but you get the picture: Both groups prefer DC become a state
@@Info_Cntrl Of course they want to be a state rather than being part of a state. It's not about representation at that point; it's about power. You get more power creating a new state than increasing the population of an already existing state.
The main reason is bc the Democrats want to pack the senate
@@benheinz7886 Yup.
@@8is The citizens of Maryland and the citizens of DC do not want DC to be part of Maryland. Why should we force that decision upon the people of DC and Maryland? Why should DC become a part of Maryland instead of becoming a part of Virginia?
“Washington D.C is a city, not a state”. But it’s not a city within a state. That’s the problem with calling it a city.
If you're going to get a new state, make it Puerto Rico. 3 million disenfranchised Americans should make the country ashamed. Or do they still think colonisation to be OK?
How about have DC become a state along with the territories
It makes more sense to just incorporate the city itself and its residents into Maryland, but leave the federal buildings as a “district.” Virginia basically did that so, why not? They would have state and federal representation.
That’s the concern, right? It’s not just a power grab, right?
The problem is Maryland does not want DC. It would tip the balance of power in MD away from the state capitol Annapolis and Baltimore. Neither of those jurisdictions will allow DC to become part of MD. And Virginia’s relationship between the north and south parts of the state is also very tense so the south won’t want Northern VA to get more power either. DC also has it’s own culture that is separate from MD and VA and they don’t want to be part of either of those states.
The only reason that people in DC want statehood that isn't immediately political is so Congress can't control the city budget. But every reason after is political, Dems are so desperate to get more control in Congress because they know how 2020 will turn out, but the counter arguments are valid, for example DC is a federal city meant to be the seat of the nation.
Except it states in the constitution that both MD and DC would have to agree, and DC residents want statehood, not to be part of a state.
dress for the dystopia you want I want statehood for my city too. Why isn’t Vox promoting that?
@@hankhebert BTW I want statehood for NYC, I don't live there I just don't want them controlling our politics
Her statement at the end...beautiful and inspirational!
1 video of vox has more knowledge then the whole trump administration
Does vox know how to fix the economy?
Trump being there brings down the administrations iq down by at least 200
Some Guy you say that as if trump knows anything, also yes Vox definitely knows how to fix the economy,
Some Guy does trump know how to fix the economy?
Some Guy does trump?
The plan to separate the "city" from the federal district makes complete sense. The city would be composed of the tax-paying people where they live. The federal district would be composed of the places where federal governmental functions occur. I can't understand see why this is so widely opposed - unless it's purely partisanship or Congress' incessant desire for power.
The reason it is opposed is the same reason DC became a separate entity to begin with. This video completely buries the history of DC as an organized entity. When Congress was housed in Philadelphia, they were threatened by rioters that the Philadelphia mayor refused to send the police to control. Congress explicitly wanted a territory in which they had sole control of police, hence the establishment of DC as the new national capitol and as a separate political entity. DC could just as easily be rolled back into Maryland, just as was the Virginia part of DC that was already returned, but the powers that be want two free senators, not representation. If you want representation, move outside of the congressional fief.
@@Schlabbeflicker interesting
D.C. should be a state. End of story.
it is that simple give me one good reason why they shouldn’t be state
can parts of the city be joined with Maryland say?
Daniyar why would you put hundreds of thousands of people who have worked hard to make their district very successful and have developed a completely different culture than the states around them in a state which is completely different from them just for the sake of there not being another blue state
Daniyar Yeralin Maryland is already big enough for more parts of D.C to be added I’ll say, but to answer other stuff, the founding fathers never wanted D.C to be a state nor have political parties for it was going to divide the nation even more YET DID WE LISTEN??! No! Look where we are now!
I honestly say we don’t make D.C a state and leave it between Maryland and Virginia where it belongs, maybe being a capital for the nation but not a state
Ringingbirch65 The people of DC worked hard to develop a successful city and different culture from the states around them and shouldn’t just be thrown in Maryland and Virginia who don’t really represent the people of DC. Maryland and Virginia already benefit a lot from having having millions of people live in their states because of DC being such a big hub
so if only puerto rico could convince the US they love republicans...
That and there massive debt problem.
@@jamesgavin6171 yeah but it wouldn't be much compared to Americas debt lol
Instead of becoming a state or stay a territory why can't it just join Maryland or Virginia
Disappointing that the video ignores this idea.
Virginia already has had land from DC returned to it. So DC should return most of its land to Maryland. That is the correct and proper solution.
Because Democrats want those juicy Senate and House Seats to have free reign on elections
because it's had its own history for the 200+ years it's been a thing?
I would then become part of Maryland/Virginia state politics. The entire point of having DC a federal district was that it wouldn't be controlled by other states or argued about, so adding it to them would defeat the entire point. Making it its own state would keep its autonomy and independence from politics, but also give it the representation it deserves.
Just let them become residents of Maryland again... problem solved
that is literally what i thought as well.
Smart
The dems dont want that cause they want 2 extra seats in the senate...
TheHiker _ correct!
Exactly Maryland is a pretty democrat state as well so I don’t see the problem with that
I'm so glad I live in a democracy and not in the US.
Send help pls
Someone’s been watching too much news. US on the news ≠ US IRL
Sadly
Our constitution says a democratic republic but our corrupt politicians make it an oligarchy
@@TBH_Inc So DC is not taxed without representation? The US is not world leading in deaths from Corona, despite being one of the most advanced nations in the world? How about the fact that most of that medical technology is inaccessible to the majority of the population since the US is one of the only developed nations that doesn't have a proper healthcare system.
Thomas Clark-Phelps You’re right, its way worse in real life.
My earliness is immeasurable and my day is ok
Just give it back to Maryland. Problem solved.
Which problem are you trying to solve?
david charles Them having representation
@@GentlemanJack295 That isn't representation. DC is DC not MD.
Bryan Noah DC cannot be a state by the Constitution. Virginia took back its portion and Maryland could do the same. Just another metro area in MD with full representation while the small Federal part remains as it is. You know the land for that part of DC came from Maryland to begin with? It just goes back to whence it came.
Sounds smart and gets around adding a state from each party at a time but I fear the real reason that this is being pushed is to swing the balance of the Senate towards dems
I feel like they deserve statehood...
Yes we Washingtonians want and deserve statehood
Of all industries:
"There is no mining or logging"
no kidding Sherlock, there is also probably no fishing and not large potery, fishing distric, blacksmith or an inn for thirsty adventures i bet. politics sometimes just serve to undermine the needs of people rather than supply and value them
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Puerto Rico has been given the opportunity to become a state several times and they always vote NO.
What poll have you read? they voted yes in the last referendum and they only have been given the choice three times in their history. Puerto Rico definitely deserves to be a state
@@alfredolumba7936 They voted yes but it's such a low percentage of the people eligible to vote so it's basically an "undecided." The people there don't really want to be a state for some reason
@@uncletrick1 we've been given the choice 5 times already, the last two voted yes. Congress ignored the 3rd one and the last one only 30% of voters went to vote on it based on sketchy questions.
The only distinction I’d draw with PR is that there is a debate over independence or statehood. It’d be pretty ridiculous for DC to be independent.
But aside from that, yeah.
This isn’t about a city becoming a state, it’s about preventing the federal government from being bullied by or dependent on a state, which is why our capital isn’t in Philadelphia. Mobs attacked congress and the state wouldn’t send any help.
so why don't we just keep the district limited to the government buildings and give the rest away to the neighboring states? no point for a 51st
Because neither Maryland nor Virginia want DC. Incorporating even half and half of DC into both states would dramatically shift the balance of power within those states. Neither state governments will allow it.
@@nutkja funny how suddenly the idea of representation matters only when the purpose is to give 2 more senators and a representative to congress, but not if it merely gets added to the state it was ceded from in the first place.
@@MrPbhuh
They haven't been a part of Maryland in over 200 years. They're a distinct and separate entity from Maryland at this point.
And Maryland would gain an extra Representative anyway
And your opposition to this seems to be based on partisanship
@@dillonblair6491 those people have the right to be represented, they dont have the right to force others to give them the same representation as a normal state. If they want to be represented they can join Maryland.
Yes its a partisan issue, because it would change the balance of power. In US history everytime a new state was added another state was added based on the other party. So Hawaii and Alaska. What is there to balance out DC?
So if it wasn't even planned to be a whole city, and some insist on what "founding fathers" thought or wanted, isn't it obvious that the original mistake was letting it grow to a metropolis in the first place?
It was literally planned to be a city they just didn't want to give it the rights of a state because they didn't think about it.
The objection, and it's a sound one, is that the seat of the federal government should not be under the authority of any state government. In our current climate, that would likely cause great trouble. The reasoning of the founders still stands today.
If it happens you can also call it Area 51
"No taxation without representation"
If Washington DC isn't allowed to have representation in a federal level, it should split from the US, like the 13 colonies did, hundreds of years ago.
Main arguments against:
“The Founding Fathers did not intend for Washington, D.C. to be a state”
The founding fathers didn’t intend a lot of things, so that’s why we can change laws and amend the Constitution, they knew that not everything would be the same forever. Also, for example, they didn’t intend places like Hawaii to be a state, or Alaska.
“Washington, D.C. is a city, not a state”
It’s not a state because you don’t want it to be one. Nothing in the Constitution outlaws the Douglass Commonwealth from being a state as long as there is a federal district, which the bill includes.
“Washington, D.C. doesn’t have any logging, or mining”
Countries like San Marino and Singapore do not have logging and mining industries. They are functioning COUNTRIES, they are completely autonomous and they don’t have a problem.
The reason why republicans don’t want the Douglass Commonwealth to be a state is for political reasons, and this is a precedent born out of slavery. If you are afraid that giving people representation will destroy your party’s political power, then your party should work to expand their interests so you don’t have to constantly deny people’s rights.
what a strupid argument.
you dont even understand the issue is you make that argement
@HNIC could you please elaborate?
@@artmichelstetter5087
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@HNIC That still doesn’t explain your thinking.
@@artmichelstetter5087
How deas it not?
DC is as it is for a good reason
“A city cannot be a state”
Monaco, Vatican City, Singapore, Morocco, Paris, Berlin, Hamburg, London, Madrid: *Maybe I am the bad guy*
Mexico City is also a city-state
London is a state??
City of London and greater London is different. London is not a state, England is.
Morocco is not a city state!
@theadam22 I mean in the way Washington DC could be if it's approved as the 51 state, if approved it won't turn into the "nation of Washington DC", but in the city-state of Washington DC, because that 'state' will be made of just one city, and that's the case of Mexico City and other cities around the globe
"DC can't be a state because it's a city"
Is he aware that there are entire countries that are 1 city
County doesnt equal state.
**laughs in Europe**
Do the Vatican want to be a state in the United STATES of America? I don't remember any other City-State asking to join our great union.
"The founding fathers did not intend for Washington DC to be a state" I'm pretty sure they didn't intend for black people to be treated as human beings either my dude
The only founding father that didn’t own slaves was John Adams. He wasn’t even an abolitionist.
"The founding fathers didn't intend for DC to become a state"
The founding fathers didn't intend for the US have anything past the Louisiana purchase...
*Here Mexico, I guess this land is your again!*
Texas? why, the founding fathers didn't intend for *that* to be a state!
Hey Russia, take Alaska! Hawai'i? Have independence!
Omg, we have 17 amendments that the founding fathers dodn't intended for... *GET RID OF THEM!*
@@rykloog9578 they didn't you're comparing apples to oranges they didn't want DC to be a state because they didn't want anyone to have political power over the capital
Last Nyanmurai I admit that I was exaggerating. I don’t think that the capital should be in a state; however, the District of Columbia is much more than the capital. D.C. includes land which isn’t a functioning part of the capital. The idea is to separate the parts of D.C. which aren’t part of the governing capital from the capital itself. So the capital will still be not in any state.
The Democratic Senate better get this done in the next 2 years so help us god
This is something George Washington did not want we should follow his lead because other then slaves he's way better then trump and biden
@@annoyingperson2255 he also didn’t want political parties so i think we should take apart the government
@@arturomartinez1771 I actually think people should not be in party's they should be respected based off ideas
@@annoyingperson2255 Username checks out
Apparently on March 22nd oversight Democrats will be hearing on DC Statehood, so if they eliminate the filibuster, convince people like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to vote for the bill, it’s likely it’s gonna happen this year
Why not just cede the land back to Maryland? Seems more reasonable than giving a city statehood in the US.
THAT is mighty White of you to not to ask the DC residents on what they want.
@@w41duvernay That’s why I asked the question, is it an option. Idk if it’s even an option. May be in the founding of DC Maryland and Virginia ceded that land for all time or something. Didn’t know giving the people of DC more options made me white with a capital W. 😂
@@LeaderV4 I mean it is an option. The land that Virginia ceded was returned to them. It just that, any retrocession (that's what returning the land is called BTW) would have to be agreed upon by state of Maryland, and they probably wouldn't agree to it, because that would mean sharing power with the Washington locals and that is not necessarily something the Maryland government wants.
I don't think Maryland wants it back
Sinple, the people in DC do NOT want that
"Right now, [the Republicans] oppose DC statehood, but it only takes one election to change that" **shows all three branches as blue**
Anyone else get a huge smirk on their face? 😏
@Neil Rusling why would Puerto Rico being a state make republicans happy? The demographics of the island make it that it would almost certainly be blue
@@feldspaarr It is because the island is socially conservative and has politicians that are affiliated with the Republican party, at the same time has politicians affiliated with the Democrat party and many of their residents want more progressive policies. It would be a swing state for sure.
@@feldspaarr Latinos from the east tend to vote red, so republicans would do well there.
"He walked to freedom, but he...he didn't walk to equality."
Thank you for this video. I knew why D.C. wasn't initially a state, but never knew about the fight for statehood.
3:30 This must be one of the weakest reasonings ever said in any government of the world.
AFAIK, there are 3 requirements a territory must fulfill to gain statehood:
-The inhabitants wish statehood (as seen there, they do).
-They are sympathetic with the principles laid in the Constitution (they've been for so many years).
-Enough population and resources to support state government and its share of the Federal Government (the former they do, the later they've done, even without representation).
@mrlnwrld Let me get your point: Since their major industry is "federal government", they don't have the resources to support their state's government?
I don't think so. I think that, if there's enough money to support a local government (AFAIK, the mayor office isn't funded by the federal budget, but on a local basis), then they have enough money to turn it into a state.
As they video says. DC is already operating like a state in many things, they just don't have any say in the Congress.
@mrlnwrld So, where do you leave the tourism? Financial business? Education and researching?
Not every community-supporting industry falls on primary or secondary sectors. There's the tertiary sector, and DC, as a state, can thrive on it.
@mrlnwrld So the states whose industries are failing will be thrown out of the union soon??
@mrlnwrld On paper, it sounds like a plausible solution, the Union keeps itself intact, DC gets representation and control on its local budget.
And, following this idea, Maryland would be the gaining state, since it was its territory before (Virginia's territory was re-ceded back in 1846).
However... I don't think anyone involved would like the idea:
-DC wants statehood of itself, not getting rolled into another state.
-Marylanders (or Virginians, if DC goes there) would see Washington as a siphon of the state budget.
-GOP would see brand new votes favoring the Dems in both Houses (since DC is one of the bluest places in the US).
-Dems would see less electoral votes for the Presidential Election (since DC's 3 votes would be redistributed, and probably at least one of them's gonna go to a red state).
It's such a complex situation, where no solution can leave everyone satisfied. But I agree with you, rolling DC into an already established state sounds really good.
And I thought Israel was America's 51'st state
Nope the USA is Israel's 7th district.
A party that wins the elections without winning the popular vote is bound to oppose any measure that transfers more power to the voters.
The issue is the senate. Washington DC is full of very liberal people. It’s political from both sides
Personally, I think it should remain not a state. In Australia we have our capital a it’s own territory. I believe that should be the norm (unless your capital is massive, like London)
@@zachb1706 we don't have representation which is the problem
@@Jack-sq6xb you have the president living in your territory. That’s enough
@@zachb1706 That's quite a bad comparison. The ACT and NT have the 2 smallest populations, and they both have representation in both houses of parliament.
DC gets a non voting member of the house and 0 senators and it has a larger population than 2 states (very soon 4)
@@zachb1706 they literally don't care about DC the white house is basically an island.
Dc : wanting statehood
Puerto Rico : First time?
Puerto Rico has declined many opportunities to become a sate lol
Tiefkühlen right. Puerto rico belongs to Latin America not the U.S. love from Mexico 🇲🇽❤️
@@magictrick8833 you know that's not true check history before you talk nonsense.
@@magictrick8833 They just voted for statehood lol
And, how about the fight for America’s 52nd state, Puerto Rico ?
As someone who lives in DC. It always annoys me when people who don’t live here say we shouldn’t be a state
why would you care?
@@jusletursoulglobaby Because the lawmakers they get to elect will vote against our representation.
@@Apelles42069 what are you talking about. dc has representation. where it counts anyway. we all know the vote itself doesnt mean anything. it's the influence. that's basics.
@@jusletursoulglobaby Non-voting members of Congress =/= representation
@@Apelles42069 what did I just write? EVERYONE, except you, knows the vote doesnt matter. the influence is what matters. they have a seat and that's what matters. besides im pretty sure op meant randos. not political figures.
Maybe the republican party should find a way to attract more people to their party instead of worrying about some citizens getting the ability to vote that cannot vote now 🙄
No taxation without representation. Therefore, let's just let DC just... not pay taxes.
Wanna consider the whole 'literally being occupied by federal forces with no say in this whatsoever'?
Is there a reason the city can’t just be absorbed into one of the surrounding states? Would seem to solve the political issue without leaving people disenfranchised
It would be a lot easier legally to do it like that, but DC has its own unique identity that it would lose to an extent if it was a plain old city in Maryland, and people like keeping their identities
both DC and Maryland dont want that and the virginian part of the city was reabsorbed by virginia a really long time ago.
It would be a compromise that would satisfy a lot of issues. But make everyone unhappy.
@@ZedSnardbody Henry Clay: A good compromise is when both parties are
dissatisfied""
@@ClipsNSnips but the state it would be absorbed into would be very happy