5 Bass Heads Under £1,000... Shootout!
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Seems to be something missing... Can't put our finger on it though....
Very unfortunately. I would love to see the Rootmaster 500 EVO II against these other heads.
Probably valves. These are all class D amps which means they are a particular kind of solid state technology. Not that it is bad but they lack the typical valve warmth generally speaking. The only real exception here is the Darkglass which could possibly have one of their Nutubes in the pre-amp but with it being listed as a class D we know it is not a valve power stage and it sounds almost exactly like the Markbass amp to me. Having said that, the listing says it is rigged up like one of the Darkglass overdrive pedals so it probably was not engaged for this shoot out. The full review on the Darkglass head has quite a different sound to it which would support this theory.
If it's any comfort, im sticking with my TE AH300 (thankfully I don't have to carry it anywhere anymore)
Cheers@@Walliebal So would we!
James Lewis I think you missed the point of the question. Never heard of Ashdown amps?
am i only one who watch only all about the bass on andertons?
No.I do.We need more of them!
Nah, our little bass community may be small in number but we're out there! :)
Yes we are.It is so hard to fine TAB for us.
yes, used to watch the guitar stuff, but can't bear listening to Rob Chapman (talk or play).
What we are actually witnessing here, is how much torture a Genzler cab can endure.
yes and probably the cleanest amp of the lot if used properly.
You two music specialists (instrument and amp salesmen as well) should have used the clean channel of the Magellan. You used the distortion channel and complained about the distortion.
No offense meant, lads.
I use my Magellan together with a GenzBenz NeoX t 212" cab, a cab that was built by Jeff Genzlers old company. This thing goes ungodly loud, even on the clean channel, and has one of the best distortion channels with a verry tube like tone.
GallienKrueger amps are loud, verry loud. They are because of the voicing that has a lot of high mids. This is why the old time RB 400 with 180 Watts @ 4 Ohm have been loud enough for anything. You just had to give them enough cone surface like two EVM 15L.
OK, it seemed that you didn't have the time you needed to learn everything about the gain staging and the preamp (plus both channels and the two different voiced filters) to get all the goodnes out of the Magellan.
Pete is great...IN GUITAR VIDS!....Bass not so much..
Um... isn’t that a 350W-rated cab you’re firing all those 800W heads through at full chat? That probably develop around 500W through 8 ohms? Burning smell, you say? Yeah, that’s not the heads ‘crapping out’...
musicians can be in such a stuper sometimes... -_-
A cab slightly over powered is better than underpowered a cab for the voice coil (dont put your volume at maximum plz... be smart) but it not for some stupid guy and probably a bunch of player will not agree with me but science is science
@@jean-sebastienchaumont8005 home and car audio guy here to agree with you. the interesting difference between audiophiles and musicians is the musicians overdrive their amps and pre amps on purpose and the resulting distortion IS the sound/character of the amp (this makes more voice coil heat though) and audio guys try not to overdrive their amps and leave some headroom for cleaner sound. the second I hear any distortion on my home stereo I know I and over driving it and turn it down. in short you can easily blow a speaker rated for 50W with an over driven 30w amp but run the same speaker for hours witth a 200w amp that isn't over driven. I know this both in theory and real world experience
No Orange Terror Bass?!
Pete talks more than a retired truck driver. He’s still one of my favorite guitarist at Andertons.
what happened to Lee??
prob sticking it up a big english muff
They all have basically the same components inside made by the same suppliers...Class D just sounds hollow to me..give me big transformers any day....
Nice concept, but unfortunately these jokers are too busy trying to be funny to get down to the business at hand of comparing 5 nice Class D bass heads. I kept waiting for them to taper down on the "shtich", but after about 3 minutes I had to move to other, less annoying comparisons. Too bad.
No, Pete, that's not how ears work. Loud noise is loud noise and it will damage your hearing unless you're wearing hearing protection.
Nathan's looking at him like "that's not how this works.. that's not how any of this works"
The pitch of the noise matters a good bit, you're more likely to rattle something off of a shelf before you hurt your ears with bass.
@@D1570R73D Recent research is showing that pitches that are below human hearing can still cause damage. It might not happen as quickly as it does in our audible range, but why chance it? And these effects are cumulative -- you don't get better after time, just gradually worse. A decent pair of full-frequency range earplugs can be had for less than $50. Why wouldn't you use them?
@@cullenjames7542 The point is that bass has to be louder than the highs to reach the same level of damage. It's not that it doesn't cause any damage, but you have to reach a higher volume for that to happen.
you need to listen to loud noises to build up an immunity then you cant go deaf
Markbass is always so musical ...love them.
These guys didn't know shit about the MB800... it has two gain stages, and the second one can offer some drive if you push it enough.... It's a built-in feature, not a DIY thing
I'm with Nathan it's all about the "TONE" also I'd never max the Vol nor gain controls so it's the "Little Mark" first for it's superior tonal range and The Gallien Krueger second for its compact unit and decent tone qualities.
Thank you guys for this awesome review best one ever that i have checked out, i've "LIKED" this video & "subscribed" to Anderton's UA-cam cut years ago i look forward to doing business with you guys to pick up the Little Mark and the Gallien Krueger bass amps.
Let's add some bass musicians to the Captain's mix. The Captain meets Marcus Miller.
For me, the DV Mark has by far the best tone and tonal options, but the GK amp was really close and is more than twice as loud. I'd have to play them to find a winner :)
Bring back Lee for bass videos... Pete has got no idea about the bass...
Where is Lee V?
What about DNA amplification?
Best one was the aguilar then the genz.
Some of those amps have too much watts for that speaker.
Agreed. The Aguilar Tone Hammer sounds the most "musical" to my ears.
They've probably burnt the tweeters :)
Genzler drive - it looks like you were maxing the internal overdrive circuit rather than the overall clean volume. Also if something smells burnt you are probably damaging a cab...
The burnt smell in Class D amps usually stems from shitty transistors letting too much current into equally shitty capacitors. First they smell, then they pop.
Definitely pushed the cab too hard, not a great demo for the heads when the cab is struggling a bit
That cabs not struggling one bit, it's the microphone distorting.
What a waste of an opportunity to do a decent comparison of some great bass amps. Bloke on the right shouldn't be let out on his own. What is the point of measuring sound levels or turning everything up flat out and then commenting on the tone of the distorted mess you've produced? The little cab is crapping out on you - gotta be a guitarist hasn't he....
I normally like the Andertons reviews but this was awful. Just look at the Sire/Marcus Miller interview for a totally classy job. And then you get this embarrassment.
Great demo.
To my ears, no matter what tweaking was done, the Aguilar has a very pleasant sounding bump in the low-mid range, whereas the others have a flatter response.
Not a bad shootout. Next time it actually helps a lot to NAME the amp head you're referring or discussing, instead of saying 'this one' or 'that one'. A bit of fun crap talk is ok, but too much takes away from what you're trying to achieve.
Pete is an excellent guitarist. Absolutely outstanding. So much emotion and subtlety in his playing.
The two amps that sounded the most musical when being driven loud were the Aguilar and the Mark Bass. The Aguilar had a good actual overdrive tone. The MarkBass was clean all the way up. And both had some nice tuneful tones across the board.
It is a pity there was no Ashdown amp there.
Would look forward to a sub £500 (or more realistically sub £600) shootout. Done in Top Gear style.
These are all class D...which means that internally they will be almost identical. The amp modules are all bought in, probably from the same company. There will be some difference in the pre-amp setup, but is that really worth £3-500?? I don't think so.
It's great that class D is bringing good quality, powerful, lightweight amps to musicians.
The downside is that everything is a bit vanilla, lacking in personality.
Why does your gopro footage always look like garbage? It always looks worse than a 2005 cellphone camera. Maybe it just seems that way compared to your main cameras.
why not do DI out of each amp to ensure there's no coloration to its sound by the cab and mic?
2 best sounding amps here to my ears:
@6:22 - Markbass LM
@7:22 - Aguilar TH
@8:37 - Markbass LM
@8:55 - Aguilar TH
@10:56 - Markbass LM
@29:26 - Aguilar TH
The Little Mark 800 has been my only gigging amp for almost 10 years. I still get excited every time I turn it on, and vice versa. Perfect tone in any room, with any bass, in any band.
Vice versa..? So let me get this straight....IT gets excited when it turns YOU on as well..?
Which cab do you use?
@@honestbrute9216 I laughed so hard 🤣
Or vice versa meaning you get excited every time you turn it off?
They all sound good. I have a Little Mark Tube, and I like it. I run it through a 104HF on top of a Peavey front vented 1x15. I'm a happy camper so far.
No Ampeg?
I can walk into any of my local music stores and not see any of those amps. fml
It's watching an american QVC gear guide infomercial, but Aussy/British guitar players dabbling w 5 very different amp's tone goals...
Still loved it, cheers fellas!
Yeah the class D part doesn't define the tone tho mates.
The Wayne's World of bass head shootouts. £ucking hillarious!
Does that guy know anything about sound? Watts are a pretty meaningless guide to volume, a 5W Barefaced combo will burst your eardrums! DB meters aren't much better as they have a frequency bias anyway.
I think a better test would have been via the DI, that eliminates the tonality of the cab.
Or...the Captain meets Tal Wilkenfeld.
If I win the lottery, I'd get the GK, every time!!
love listening to the Andertons bass guys whatever the gear. Any chance of a bass playing tut from Nathan and/or Lee ?
The volumes - are they hitting an 8 ohm cab? Are they on a suitable input gain level? The Markbass amps are well known to have the rather odd design of hitting most of their max volume around 12/1 on the dial, tricking you into thinking they have lots more
.. When they don't.
The cut off from increasing the volume from around the half-way point is pretty typical of class D amps (which all of these are) in general. This has been stated several times before in different videos.
@@jameslewis2635 definitely not the Genzler... After reading the designers comments (and knowing the Genz Benz history).
There really isn't a huge difference that I can hear. GK definitely has more high mids. The Markbass seems to be a little more focused in the lower mids and the Tone Hammer sounds a little more scooped to me...
RIP cab
GK pls. It has all the features i like: It's aggresive,
Like vids, but too much talking… and very odd, no Ampeg or Orange….
Aguilar for me please!
The test should be done with dual 4 x 10 cabs with ample ability to handle peak wattage. Pushing small cabinets tells me nothing except that the amp can push the cab to the edge of self destruction.
Thank you for the Great video. If you do a similar video about tube amp, include one or two hybrid amp in it. That would be interesting comparison. I would like to see more quitar channel like content in all about the bass. Thanks you once again for great show. 🤙🙏
They sound extremely similar. The Markbass and Genzler are very clear and true to the bass, as expected. The GK is very aggressive as expected. The DG is dark and pretty boring. The Aguilar had the low mid kick.
Also be on the lookout for the new Rumble 800 head.
The Tone Hammer sounds the best , then the Markbass
Agreed but not by much so I would go with Markbass
I preferred the Markbass.
I know The Fender Bassman Amp is very popular with Guitarist's. ....I'd like to hear one of you guys playing Bass Guitar through one....I've probably heard the sound before without knowing it....I just want to see it and hear it in isolation from outside a band environment....also I bet Pete's Farts are Musical....Jazz & Blues Fusion...with a little BROOOOWWWWN sound....sorry couldn't resist......
It's not the Little Mark Tube 800 it's the Little Mark III that you're playing.
Being a Mesa Subway 800 owner, it would've been nice to see how it compares to these amps.
Do you still have it, I’m thinking about getting the plus version
Jbird I do, but I never use it anymore since I got a Helix LT. I have it up for sale but only on Facebook since I have little experience with shipping things.
Am I the only person thinking the name of the spot should be 'Gig with a Reasonably Priced Rig'?
Pete was so damn annoying. He doesn't need anymore coffee he needs a damn sedative.
This is hilarious. Neither one of them can finish a sentence.
Nathan’s squirming at critique of the MarkBass wouldnt have anything to do with his brother being on Mark Bass’s payroll by any chance? If Pete wasn’t too drunk to maintain focus for more than six seconds this might have gotten more awkward than it already was.
At least bartenders get paid to watch infants.
Danish Pete:"We should have 'the star plays the reasonably priced guitar'!"
Nathan King, bassist for Frost*: "...great idea..."
and on that bombshell it's time to end, thank you very much for watching and goodnight!
yeeeaaahhhh........ is there a guitarist I could talk with?........
“Are you drunk?” probably it’s after lunch, as Anderson’s like a liquid lunch!
Using a Darkglass 900 since two years, never got the volume past midway position (especially with a DG 4x10 cab), it's waaaaaay enough loud to blast my two guitarists at once.
I have the 500. even with a super hard hitting drummer it's not needed to go much over 1/4 yet haha
Your 4x10 cab must be a 4 ohm, which would utilize all the amps wattage power. Therefore it would be crazy super loud.
Here in the USA, Mark Bass has a choke hold on the repairs, only a few authorized repair shops, MB does not provide schematics for Combo amps. Repairs are EXPENSIVE!
I'm surprised they don't stock Ampeg bass amps because they're THE sound. I love my Portaflex PF-500 head with 2x10 flip top cab.
I like rhat bass!
They all sound the same to me, must be the eq he set
This was a useless demo.
What happened to Nathan? Hope he's doing well, the guy could really play.
That's the way to do it fast switching, tells me a lot
They sound exactly the same...
all sound the same to me tbh
Aguilar all day long.
You two should know that Genzler is American made!!
Ought to be playing through a 4x10 cab or possibly a 2x12 cab
The GK was the only one of these that had its own immediately recognizable tone in comparison. All the others were VERY similar. Not to say it’s better, that’s a matter of taste, but it was just the only one which sounded different than the rest
I agree. The GK seemed to have a little more top end than the rest
i think testing is fundamentally flawed not representative of what amp can achieve
comparing these amps my measureing their noise level is like testing a car by measuring their windshield wipers. The difference is in the preamps.
GK, MarkBass, Aquilar Least favorite was the DarkGlass
No Trace Elliot? Used them for years.
Years ago Trace Elliot amps were nice amps when they were Trace Elliot (UK). Now their nothing more then a Peavey amp with a Trace sticker. Just NOT the same anymore unless you're tone-deaf then they'll still sound great to you?
They all sound the same.
They all sound the same because they're all class D, high efficiency low fidelity amps. Let's see a comparison with some clas a/b Hartke and Ashdown amps.
What's the main difference between class A and D amps? Are A class amps better?
@@mattseymour8637 The differences have to do with idle power from the transistors. Class D amps pulse power between on and off continously which requires a modulator and a filter to "put the sound back together." Generally class d amps lack body, girth, and fidelity compared to class a/b.
@@aaronmajchen982 thanks for the information thats interesting stuff. I read that class D amps put out more power though is that right?
@@mattseymour8637 Yes, they generally put out more watts per price and weight, because they don't require heat sinks due to power efficiency. Wattage claims can be tricky, in my opinion a 350 watt A/B amp can play louder than a 500 watt class D, all depends. You really need to demo them in person.
Shout out is better than shat out
Once, I too shat out six amps, most painful thing ever. ; )
Good vid thx , lavalier pointing down tho. 🤦🏻♂️
I feel like the Markbass and the GK have the most "baked-in" tone whereas all the others are very transparent. I think I like the Markbass!
Idea for you. I purchase a Hartke tx600. I read reviews that it was low volume, and then I saw a few people saying that we are just using it wrong. You need to up the gain on this amp, they said. Well, I got it and it appears low to me. I would love to see you guys put this 600 watt amp from Hartke against other 600 watters to either prove the masses wrong, or let everyone know that the rating on this amp is off.
No Fender Rumble??
"Extraordinary meets Average" show naaaaame. DANISH PETE DO IT.
still don't know which direction to go
Bose headphone, they all sound exactly the same.
P Here bose is a joke. To concerned with the “Bose sound” and not giving us the cleanest possible signal and allowing the user to adjust.
Bose alters sound... not for monitoring music. They're for easy listening.
It would love to hear the same comparative test using the Aguilar cab! :-)
GK is a pleasant surprise. It'd be the one I'd look at...
I'm watching this from Denmark and it just feels right.
Aguilar and darkglass
This is awesome and hilarious, thoroughly enjoyed. More Bass videos with Bass-friendly EQ settings would be great!
Gk all day