This is also a famous indigenous symbol used on turtle island known as the medicine wheel. It’s really a fascinating subject and tons of knowledge flows from it through elders.
Thank you for this tremendous and very thoughtful video. I agree with your interpretation here. I think the most basic meaning of a cross such as we see at Lascaux has to do with the above connecting with the below, the beyond connecting with the here and now in such a way as to change things. A cross with rotational movement suggests a cycle of these kinds of events. in ancient Armenia the suncross is used in the context of worldview and ritual associated with an expectation of the return of advanced beings from the beyond to the here and now, for instance. (I am writing about this in the exith in my Eden Series.) I believe in ancinet Armenia it was also associated with the fertility of land and people on which our civilization depends. I would love to hear if your thoughts on the sun cross have developed in the 4 years since you posted this. Thank you again. Peace, Paul
While I'm not opposed to the idea that the Sun wheel is also a cosmogram, if you look at images of so called "sun dogs" (a halo around the sun created by ice crystals in the air) it looks strikingly like this symbol
The sun Wheel if you asked a Turtle Island Indigenous he would call that a Medicine Wheel , or wheel of the 4directions. I think this could possibly be a very big thing. The theory is that the Medicine Wheel was the original or primary spiritual path. The reason this may be huge is the possibility that Stone Hinge, and all of the European stone circles are also Medicne Wheels. To know the origin of our global primary belief system is a wonderful thing. If we can make the connections. We are really all connected!
Thank you! I found this symbol on maps by my house with large stones placed within the circle. Next to it was a larger image of a circle within a circle. When I went to look it is private property and I could only see the large stones in the ground and what looked like chairs set up looking at the stones. Today I saw the symbol on a music video and am intrigued to research it. Your info has been very enlightening. Bless you much!
As Robert Johnson said, "I went down to the crossroads..." where he made a deal with "the devil" (the Christianization of Legba, the god of the crossroads). Not, in fact, the "devil" but rather a Spirit who facilitates communication between humans and the dwellers of the Otherworld.
Thank you for this! I see it coming from a Bronze Age chariot wheel, so the cosmogram fits There's also the burial at Tobol where the woman was buried with a four-spoke chariot/sun-wheel over her pelvis.
I once saw this symbol in the clouds above me. The clouds were thin and layered and it was sort of cut out of one. Like dark on light. There was this boreal owl making that crazy noise they make outside while diving at my balcony over and over. So I went out and looked up and there it was, huge, unmistakable and directly above me. I didn't know what it was or what it meant at the time. Kinda freaked me out. Been looking into it for a few years now without finding much. It's very old, and it's everywhere... This is a good video. I think I'm starting to get the message.
Let me propose a simple, logical explanation. You observe the largest light in the sky (sun) you wil find that it travels in a semicircle path. Riseing in one place descending in another and repeting. Logically you will realise that the path is actualy a hole circle. Also over time you realise that the semicircle is gettin bigger and smaller over end over. Conveniently the middlepoint in this enlargements and reductions is about when you need to sow or harvest. It is a very importent discovery since you dont have enything else to keep track of time. So you make a simple self explanatory symbol for it. A circle with a centre point. You even make a depiction using it as a wheel while a circle connected in the ceter actually is. And you mark the spot where is this solar wheel observed because you dont have a moutain or somthing natural as a guide.
This reminds me of a speculative idea I had a while ago. You mentioned the often quoted translation of Yggdrasill as Odins horse, i.e. yggr=the terrible, drasill=horse. This is however a etymology that first appears in the prose edda and is quite likely to have been made up by Snorri, filling in some blanks as he often did. I've read that it is more likely that yggr is a cognate or derivative term to water, and drasil comes from 'to hold, carry'. My idea now was that there might be a connection of some sort between an old version of Yggdrasil as a water-carrier and Aquarius, the constellation of the water-carrier, which is actually one of the oldest recorded constellations, as the suns passage through it marked the important beginning of the rain season. Even in Babylonian astronomy it represented Ea, the ruler of the suns path. Of course this could also be either coincidence or a case of similar associations, like with the occurence of the symbol in differnet cultures, but it's something to think about.
I think the Odins Horse-interpretation of "Yggdrasil" is fairly well established. Yggr as a name of Odin is attested in some of the earliest eddic poetry. But well - .. mythic names are often very polysemantic
The shining water in the well of the Norns that the tree feeds from is also important and the water flowing as SAP through the tree would make it a water carrier. Water is life, and Yggdrasil is the tree of life. That's my take on that water translation.
Ok, so hear me out....I really really LOVE the yggdrasil cross on the Nordic Animism site. I would absolutely LOVE to wear a silver version of it as a pendant. I feel it's a more appropriate version, and it speaks more to me. I'm sure I'm not alone in this feeling. 😊
People should spend more time watching trees grow and bonfires burn. They would then be able to see the magic in the fabric of nature. A fabric of dust woven together by colours and sounds. When all the colours and sounds, all the warmt disappear, only ash and soot is left. A new seed will later make a new fabric , a new coat for itself by using a thread of soot (carbon), a thred of ash (minerals) and knitting needles of sound and colours. Modern science has given us the ability to master the forces in nature. However I think our old science/knowledge gave us the ability to understand ourselves, to understand life.
Please can you comment on my experience. A few years ago I succeed in opening my 3rd eye. A few month later I found a solar cross, very old, very rusted and made of iron, placed at the entrance of my third eye. My thought was it was placed there to block my development. I have never come across this symbol before. What do you think? who could possible have placed it there?
Isn't it just a symbol for the sun and its eternal cycle, the 4 solstices and seasons? Knowing the course of the sun, that was what was important to people all over the world and what ensured their survival. Whether hunting or sowing, when winter came and summer came again was decisive.
The wheel cross is a multiple rotation symbol, isn't it? It rotates in the form of a wagon wheel, as shown symbolically at Trundholm sun chariot. But it also turns in the form of a miracle disk, as was already suggested on the disk of La rondelle aux chamoix, Abri de Laugerie-Basse. Cosmic rotation was a cult and the wheel cross was the universal cosmogram. The stars wandered around the earth. Day and night flipped up and down on the central axis earth, as upper and lower world, gods and spirits world, life and death.
Sun-Wheel is effect of Sun on our Magnetic Poles. Sun pole-shifts every 11 yrs, this eventually flips ours. ....approx. every 6480 yrs. The planet will always flourish at certain angles... we are in the Winter (Shiva to some) ... we are about to shift... and it will be Glorious!
Yesterday during a deep meditation I asked my spirit guide if there is anything important he'd like to tell me. He gave me a wooden wheel with a diameter of about 15cm, the wheel part was 4-5cm wide and 1.5-2cm thick, inside there was the cross made of rectangular pieces with the thickness of about 1.5cm. Very simple design, no ornament. Well this would all be easier if I could draw in the comments.... I also recieved a mental image exactly looking like the one at 8:00. The exact same, except it was tilted so it was an X not +. At that moment I had no clue whats going on. I asked what is this thing. The answer: a (the) key. I kept asking what this supposed to mean but no answer. I knew of course that this has to be a symbol and I've quickly found out about the solarwheel. Do you know the significance of this being tilted? I have rarely seen tilted ones so far on the internet except these few Nordic ones. Thank you for your great work!
This symbol also came to me unexpectedly. I left a comment on this video if you want to know more. To call it the key is very interesting. Kinda vaguely makes sense to me. The symbol in the x orientation is more like the medicine wheel I think.
Einar from Wardruna has been wearing this symbol around his neck for as far back as I can remember seeing his vids. It is clearly very important to him as he practices his art. It would be nice for you to maybe do a video on the black sun wheel to prove/disprove that it had Nazi origins. I've been looking into it myself as many non-racist Heathens display it claiming it dates to ancient times. Maybe you will touch on it in this vid or you have previously already discussed it. Not sure. I have found some proof for the 12-spoked sun wheel, but it seems to be up for debate as to its factual use by the Germanic tribes.
Black sun symbol utilizes the rune sowulo. The swastika symbolizes the big dipper as it rotatates around the pole star representing change of seasons and energies coming in.
This is also a famous indigenous symbol used on turtle island known as the medicine wheel. It’s really a fascinating subject and tons of knowledge flows from it through elders.
The wheel is used by the Turtle Island Indigenous to teach limitless things.
Thank you for this tremendous and very thoughtful video. I agree with your interpretation here. I think the most basic meaning of a cross such as we see at Lascaux has to do with the above connecting with the below, the beyond connecting with the here and now in such a way as to change things. A cross with rotational movement suggests a cycle of these kinds of events. in ancient Armenia the suncross is used in the context of worldview and ritual associated with an expectation of the return of advanced beings from the beyond to the here and now, for instance. (I am writing about this in the exith in my Eden Series.) I believe in ancinet Armenia it was also associated with the fertility of land and people on which our civilization depends. I would love to hear if your thoughts on the sun cross have developed in the 4 years since you posted this. Thank you again. Peace, Paul
While I'm not opposed to the idea that the Sun wheel is also a cosmogram, if you look at images of so called "sun dogs" (a halo around the sun created by ice crystals in the air) it looks strikingly like this symbol
Oh my goodness your right ❤
The sun Wheel if you asked a Turtle Island Indigenous he would call that a Medicine Wheel , or wheel of the 4directions.
I think this could possibly be a very big thing.
The theory is that the Medicine Wheel was the original or primary spiritual path.
The reason this may be huge is the possibility that Stone Hinge, and all of the European stone circles are also Medicne Wheels.
To know the origin of our global primary
belief system is a wonderful thing. If we can make the connections.
We are really all connected!
Thank you! I found this symbol on maps by my house with large stones placed within the circle. Next to it was a larger image of a circle within a circle. When I went to look it is private property and I could only see the large stones in the ground and what looked like chairs set up looking at the stones. Today I saw the symbol on a music video and am intrigued to research it. Your info has been very enlightening. Bless you much!
As Robert Johnson said, "I went down to the crossroads..." where he made a deal with "the devil" (the Christianization of Legba, the god of the crossroads). Not, in fact, the "devil" but rather a Spirit who facilitates communication between humans and the dwellers of the Otherworld.
Thank you for this! I see it coming from a Bronze Age chariot wheel, so the cosmogram fits There's also the burial at Tobol where the woman was buried with a four-spoke chariot/sun-wheel over her pelvis.
I once saw this symbol in the clouds above me. The clouds were thin and layered and it was sort of cut out of one. Like dark on light.
There was this boreal owl making that crazy noise they make outside while diving at my balcony over and over. So I went out and looked up and there it was, huge, unmistakable and directly above me. I didn't know what it was or what it meant at the time. Kinda freaked me out. Been looking into it for a few years now without finding much. It's very old, and it's everywhere...
This is a good video. I think I'm starting to get the message.
I saw this appear out of thin air once. It was Casper the ghost color
As I watch this, I am looking at a Crow Medicine Wheel that an Assiniboine friend gave me.
It's a circle divided into four parts. Go figure, yeah?
Let me propose a simple, logical explanation.
You observe the largest light in the sky (sun) you wil find that it travels in a semicircle path.
Riseing in one place descending in another and repeting. Logically you will realise that the path is actualy a hole circle.
Also over time you realise that the semicircle is gettin bigger and smaller over end over.
Conveniently the middlepoint in this enlargements and reductions is about when you need to sow or harvest.
It is a very importent discovery since you dont have enything else to keep track of time.
So you make a simple self explanatory symbol for it. A circle with a centre point.
You even make a depiction using it as a wheel while a circle connected in the ceter actually is.
And you mark the spot where is this solar wheel observed because you dont have a moutain or somthing natural as a guide.
This reminds me of a speculative idea I had a while ago. You mentioned the often quoted translation of Yggdrasill as Odins horse, i.e. yggr=the terrible, drasill=horse. This is however a etymology that first appears in the prose edda and is quite likely to have been made up by Snorri, filling in some blanks as he often did. I've read that it is more likely that yggr is a cognate or derivative term to water, and drasil comes from 'to hold, carry'. My idea now was that there might be a connection of some sort between an old version of Yggdrasil as a water-carrier and Aquarius, the constellation of the water-carrier, which is actually one of the oldest recorded constellations, as the suns passage through it marked the important beginning of the rain season. Even in Babylonian astronomy it represented Ea, the ruler of the suns path. Of course this could also be either coincidence or a case of similar associations, like with the occurence of the symbol in differnet cultures, but it's something to think about.
I think the Odins Horse-interpretation of "Yggdrasil" is fairly well established. Yggr as a name of Odin is attested in some of the earliest eddic poetry. But well - .. mythic names are often very polysemantic
The shining water in the well of the Norns that the tree feeds from is also important and the water flowing as SAP through the tree would make it a water carrier. Water is life, and Yggdrasil is the tree of life. That's my take on that water translation.
Can I see the book again? Trying to find it.
What is the name of the Danish nordic bronze age scholar and the name of the book you refer to in the begining of the video.thanks for your help
Flemming Kaul
Ok, so hear me out....I really really LOVE the yggdrasil cross on the Nordic Animism site. I would absolutely LOVE to wear a silver version of it as a pendant. I feel it's a more appropriate version, and it speaks more to me. I'm sure I'm not alone in this feeling. 😊
Thanks and Totally noted!!!
Thank you! Amazing !!
Can you do a video on Valknut?
Ah, finally the concept of Yggdrasill as the cosmic axis makes sense to me, if you envision it growing through the wheel's center. I love it.
People should spend more time watching trees grow and bonfires burn. They would then be able to see the magic in the fabric of nature. A fabric of dust woven together by colours and sounds. When all the colours and sounds, all the warmt disappear, only ash and soot is left. A new seed will later make a new fabric , a new coat for itself by using a thread of soot (carbon), a thred of ash (minerals) and knitting needles of sound and colours. Modern science has given us the ability to master the forces in nature. However I think our old science/knowledge gave us the ability to understand ourselves, to understand life.
I thought it was a wheel of the year type of thing 🤔
Please can you comment on my experience. A few years ago I succeed in opening my 3rd eye. A few month later I found a solar cross, very old, very rusted and made of iron, placed at the entrance of my third eye. My thought was it was placed there to block my development. I have never come across this symbol before. What do you think? who could possible have placed it there?
Very good video thanks
I think it is a symbol of the path of the sun. The cross points are the solstices. At least that is how I intuit it. The four seasons.
Isn't it just a symbol for the sun and its eternal cycle, the 4 solstices and seasons? Knowing the course of the sun, that was what was important to people all over the world and what ensured their survival. Whether hunting or sowing, when winter came and summer came again was decisive.
The wheel cross is a multiple rotation symbol, isn't it? It rotates in the form of a wagon wheel, as shown symbolically at Trundholm sun chariot. But it also turns in the form of a miracle disk, as was already suggested on the disk of La rondelle aux chamoix, Abri de Laugerie-Basse. Cosmic rotation was a cult and the wheel cross was the universal cosmogram. The stars wandered around the earth. Day and night flipped up and down on the central axis earth, as upper and lower world, gods and spirits world, life and death.
What is the name of the book by Dr. Flemming Kaul, that you are holding and reference in the video?
Bronzealderens religion - in Danish unfortunately
@@NordicAnimism Thank you very much!
Sun-Wheel is effect of Sun on our Magnetic Poles.
Sun pole-shifts every 11 yrs, this eventually flips ours. ....approx. every 6480 yrs.
The planet will always flourish at certain angles... we are in the Winter (Shiva to some) ... we are about to shift... and it will be Glorious!
That's awesome. I am an "emerging voelva" and I'm looking for magical secrets...lol
Jeg elsker dit maleri! Har du vurdert at lave et print af det?
du er faktisk den anden som har nævnt det idag. Jeg vil overveje det.
@@NordicAnimism nå men der har du det. Det er en økning på 100 prosent 😁 Print, print!
Yesterday during a deep meditation I asked my spirit guide if there is anything important he'd like to tell me. He gave me a wooden wheel with a diameter of about 15cm, the wheel part was 4-5cm wide and 1.5-2cm thick, inside there was the cross made of rectangular pieces with the thickness of about 1.5cm. Very simple design, no ornament. Well this would all be easier if I could draw in the comments....
I also recieved a mental image exactly looking like the one at 8:00. The exact same, except it was tilted so it was an X not +.
At that moment I had no clue whats going on. I asked what is this thing. The answer: a (the) key.
I kept asking what this supposed to mean but no answer.
I knew of course that this has to be a symbol and I've quickly found out about the solarwheel.
Do you know the significance of this being tilted? I have rarely seen tilted ones so far on the internet except these few Nordic ones.
Thank you for your great work!
This symbol also came to me unexpectedly. I left a comment on this video if you want to know more.
To call it the key is very interesting. Kinda vaguely makes sense to me.
The symbol in the x orientation is more like the medicine wheel I think.
Rotate it 45 degrees and some colour and this symbol could be Medicine wheel. A timeless, pan-cultural symbol.
Did the sun cross influence the christian cross? I mean, if jesus was crucified, probably a X, T or I-shaped “cross” was most likely used, right?
Definitely the Celtic cross evolved from combining the two.
Do the Oera Linda, if you’re brave enough 😅
Einar from Wardruna has been wearing this symbol around his neck for as far back as I can remember seeing his vids. It is clearly very important to him as he practices his art. It would be nice for you to maybe do a video on the black sun wheel to prove/disprove that it had Nazi origins. I've been looking into it myself as many non-racist Heathens display it claiming it dates to ancient times. Maybe you will touch on it in this vid or you have previously already discussed it. Not sure. I have found some proof for the 12-spoked sun wheel, but it seems to be up for debate as to its factual use by the Germanic tribes.
I touch it in this video here.
ua-cam.com/video/cp-jfbnP3GY/v-deo.html
Black sun symbol utilizes the rune sowulo. The swastika symbolizes the big dipper as it rotatates around the pole star representing change of seasons and energies coming in.
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