No, what’s worse is when you realize you’ve JUST saved, but it was AFTER the mistake you made, so you need to move back to a previous save 2 hours ago. (Like the famous Skyrim ‘load and die’ clips) Same result, but it feels so much worse.
ua-cam.com/video/eatIzqwB2dA/v-deo.html Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life. (John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Yeah... fans tend to forget that a ship's counselor is kinda important with the kind of crap the Enterprise crew go through. "Let's see... in the last few years the Captain has lived an entire life and mourned for a wife and children that never existed... been tortured as a prisoner of war... nabbed by the Borg... sexually harassed by my mother... and Q keeps visiting and treating the Captain like a pet or something..."
Picard is famous for giving inspiring, touching highly philosophical speeches on controversial topics and life itself, makes it all the more jarring that the most emotional and thought provoking action is when he says nothing at all.
Josh Fredman I'm thinking also of his reaction after announcing to the crew the death of Sito Jaxa at the end of "Lower Decks". It was much the same as this one, and just as effective.
+azraelangelofred Even when angry, I doubt Picard would do such a thing as that. Probably thinking more along the lines of, "If I see her again, there will be hell to pay."
I don't agree with this title. Earlier in this episode, Ro Laren met with Picard at a bar and told him that she was having mixed feelings about the operation and was unsure if she could go through with it, and Picard basically strongarmed her into doing it. In this scene, Riker indicates that Ro felt regret about letting Picard down. I think that Picard is feeling regret in this scene for not handling this situation better, and losing one of his people as a result.
Well, done. Treasure your empathy. Not to the level where both of these realities can't exist, because they most certaintly do, but as the comments show, you see something that others can not... and that is a powerful thing.~ but we all see a man betrayed by one he had become quite fond of imagining keeping close in life, a life he mourns, which will never be.
@Paul Stejskal I think it's that exactly. This isn't a face of simple rage; we see rage in First Contact in the holodeck shooting and the model-ship smashing scenes. This scene is much more complicated... I'd call it a deeply conflicted loss for words.
+Sublime Thinker Once you go bald early, the plus side is that you can't really age much after that. Today, Jonathan Frakes looks just as old as Patrick Stewart....
Good job, you've shown you barely watched the episode you made that comment from. The Maquis has just detonated a similar device on a Cardassian colony which had a similar effect....Cardassians *ONLY* could no longer live there. The planet Sisko attacked, was made uninhabitable to *HUMANS* >>> *_ONLY_*
tremedar - Let's cut all the bullshit away, shall we? Sisko used biological weapons, weapons of mass destruction, against civilians. And the spineless pieces of shit on the bridge let him, although Starfleet certainly would have clausing obliging its personnel to disobey illegal orders. Which, knowing that the Federation is generally a benevolent society, the use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians certainly would be. I did watch the episode. That's why I know that Sisko did this because of his own ego. Wherefore I will just repeat what I said earlier: Sisko is a madman and a criminal that belongs behind bars.
You know, it's funny. I always looked at this scene completely differently. I always saw it as Picard realizing he's pushed someone who was conflicted too far and she ended up switching sides. The anger of the scene was Picard being more upset with himself than with Ro, after he realized he'd pushed someone too far for the benefit of the mission.
I don't know. Ro wasn't on board. I think she grew to respect Picard but he wanted her to be something that she wasn't. Sometimes the military does horrible things and forces people to stand on their values.
It's a shame we never saw Ro again. With DS9 being centered around Bajorans it would have been nice to have a few episodes with her. (p.s. Yes I'm aware of the Ro vs. Kira decision when they were creating the series, I'm talking about a guest appearance).
@@denniselliott27 Yes, it would've been more interesting for her to meet Maj. Kira on the prominade and it would turn out they knew each other and disliked each other immensly with it turning into hand to hand on the deck. "Ops to security: we have a disturbance in the prominade". Odo and his boys break them up and escort both to the brig. Kira ends up standing to in front of Sisko in his office where a froth spewing, vein bulgin Sisko demands to know what the **** is her major malfunction. It would've been an interesting story.
Jokes aside, this is still some great acting from Patrick Stewart. The range of emotions; anger, disappointment, regret; he conveys with a single facial expression is impressive.
The man who is able to give articulate, philosophical, and moving speeches in basically any situation has no words. Yeah...time to not be in this room.
This is one of those great Picard moments. He became an unlikely champion of Ro on her journey to redemption, he had a downright paternal pride when she made lieutenant and took Chakotay’s class. How he feels the betrayal! But he also understands that she’s an extremely conscientious person and could not help but be true to herself here. And that she still regrets letting him down after all. Yes, no wonder he’s too conflicted for words.
@@samcochran8203 He didn't appear directly, but he taught a class on advanced tactical training before leaving Starfleet, and Ro was one of his students.
He's a great actor, but not really because of this scene. He actually just sits there, the emotional context is conveyed by the music and the camera angle (and to a certain extent by the silence in reaction to Riker's lines). There are plenty of Picard scenes that show his range and ability; this is not one of them.
Yup. Eddie James Olmos did the same kinda think in the newish BSG. in many scenes he just tore out my heart with a silent look or a solemn expression...
This scene has been growing on me for months. It's beautiful in it's layered-ness. He's infuriated, would have her court marshaled, but also sad and regretful for not having provided a better alternative.
@@vipermustang42 From my memory of this episode I felt like Picard put Ro in a corner when they met in the bar. He threatened a court martial if she didn't go through with the mission. He's boiling, because it's partly his fault, and he knows it.
I think what makes the Maquis story arc so great is that, in a future where Humanity is enlightened and has formed a Utopian society, they're presented with a situation for which there isn't an easy answer.
Um yes there is, when the Cadassians provoke Starfleet don't diffuse the situation with diplomacy and appeasement, but let a shooting war start… and *invite the Klingons.* Starfleet has much more advanced combat ships by now (Akira class and all the post Wolf 359 models) and can just take out the Cadassian fleet in space without having to worry about ground combat. And with the addition of the Klingon fleet it will be overwhelming victory. In addition having the Klingons fight side by side will help the Alliance and stability in the Klingon Empire - a good war every once in a while is necessary to blow off steam and give the hotheads something to shoot at besides each other, their leaders … *or their allies.* The Federation Klingon alliance takes out Cadassian fleet forces fast, scaring the hell out of any rival powers by showing that they would face both "Empires" in any conflict. As well, once the fleet is neutralised Cadassian planets world surrender immediately to the Federation rather than risk ground invasion from the Klingons. A good cop/bad cop routine. Surrender to the nice Federation (where quality of life will probably improve) or face bloodthirsty Klingons in hand to hand combat (after they orbitaly bombard your planet). It will be similar to the end of Germany in WW2, where they were running to surrender to the American/commonwealth forces ahead of the advancing Soviets.
@DriftZ TwoSeven I had a hard time with that as well, but my country is only the place I pay taxes and own property in. If there were a place I wanted to go to or it became less attractive to live here, I'd ditch it in a hot second. Defending a planet with guerrilla tactics when I'm freely offered one of equal quality seems silly to me.
@DriftZ TwoSeven Canada is my homeland. Has been for 36 years and never lived anywhere else. I'd still ditch it if it suited me. I'm not a "roots" guy.
All the maquis had to do was move their people. They were colonists when the conflict began; colonist means they cam from somewhere else before they were here. Let them colonize somewhere else...somewhere not in conflict. A guerilla action against the Cardies is only going to fuel their xenophobic tendencies. If you don't want to lose your face, don't go sticking it into rotating fan-blades.
+Marco Star trek has no monetary value system, yet the rest of the world does not work that way, so they have to have some sort of value to bargain with in case they need to.
Starfleet prohibits the use of F-bombs on all starships, if you see a starfleet officer dropping a F-bomb please report the issue to your nearest ranking supervisor..... IA officer Blargh's report, Starfleet officer, one Captain jean Luc Picard was arrested today for...wait seriously?? using a f-bomb whatever that is and will spend the next hour washing the childrens classroom walls......that will be all, Commander Riker will be in command for the next hour, that will be all dismissed....I said dismissed!
This is so great because normally Picard is so experienced and well rounded, seen everything, is morally grounded, has strong character, but something happened here that he just doesn't know how to react to, which again is very rare. Normally he immediately knows how to react to a situation, even one that can appear complicated to someone else, but this one has got him trying to figure out what to make of it all, very interesting.
I expected Picard to go back to the home vineyard for another mud wrestle with his brother. This is the only episode of Star Trek that I refuse to rewatch!
@@psychepeteschannel5500 it's from the kingkiller chronicle, specifically "The Wise Man's Fear." It's not really used in the books at all, but it's a nice standalone quote.
Too bad that we never found out what happened to Ro Laren and Tom Riker, at least not onscreen. Of course there are novels which explain what happened afterwards. But many people seem to have problems with those, because they were declared as non-canon.
Yes, in the season 3 episode "Defiant". There were considerations to continue the Tom Riker arc in DS9 after season 3, but it was discarded. That's why I wrote the comment above.
In accordance with DS9, the resistance she was a member of, the Maquis, was destroyed after Cardassia sided with the Dominion. With the exception of the ones on the U.S.S. Voyager or already in prison, they were all killed. There were no survivors. It's logical to presume she was killed as well.
How Federation Captains react when starfleet officers defect to the Maqui Picard: stares Sisko: Destroys the atmosphere of every Maqui colony until the defector surrenders Janeway: Follows them into an ion storm and forces them to become starfleet officers for 7 years
I knew exactly how he felt: Ro Laren was my favorite "Trek" character, the one that got me watching regularly. In fact, it was a bit of a crush. I hated seeing her story end like this, when i wanted such a bright future for her, and it hurt me, too. This was the saddest moment of my life as a Trekkie.
I know how you felt Nick, Ro was a very important character to me too. But if you think about it we were actually quite lucky to get the send-off we did end up seeing. I'm sure I read an interview many years ago that revealed that by this point Forbes wasn't really interested in coming back anymore, and it took some convincing to get her to make one final appearance. It was a terrific episode, giving Ro the spotlight in a big way, AND it was the penultimate episode in the final season. The character came very close to never coming back ... but she went out in triumphant style. After Ro's fantastic involvement in 'The Next Phase' I couldn't wait to see what would happen next ... little did I know that apart from a few seconds at the beginning of 'Rascals', she would vanish until 'Preemptive Strike'. More than a two year gap, but worth the wait. Ro was never destined to be an officer, she was too much of a free spirit, and her decision to betray Picard was the right thing for her. I think in time Picard would see that too.
I know about the backstory to Forbes' final appearance, actually, but thanks nonetheless. For me, the potential sadness is the destruction of the Maquis, a few years later, and Ro's probable death in the process. I know that the DS9 novels suggested otherwise, but that's only secondary canon.
To me it seems implausible Ro would still be alive after the Dominion war. It was made clear the Maquis were wiped out by the Jem'Hadar, aside from that group Eddington had gathered, and it was clear she was not with them. And assuming the Federation had arrested her, it's unlikely she would have been released from prison for a very long time, not to mention would never be wearing a uniform again.
As I said, there was a whole set of non-canon DS9 novels that showed her surviving, and they dealt with exactly those issues: Ro was shown as having barely survived and joined the Bajoran, rather than Federation, military after Picard got Starfleet off her back. But that's just one possibility.
+Konstantin Sterly that LITERALLY just happened to me on Friday! This absolutely GORGEOUS brunette girl in my writing class kept giving me a flirty smile, as she had done for the past WEEK, only to shoot me down with those insufferable four words "I have a boyfriend." I didn't really react. I just walked away when class ended. I was PISSED. OFF.
@@mitchellneu I'll one up you. A while back when I was single, I was at a bar, having a quick drink, minding my own business, and a girl, good looking, blonde, leaned over my shoulder to introduce herself, got me up from the bar, took me out to the dance floor, did not quite a bump and grind, but a pretty flirty dance with me, and then invited me to go out and have a cigarette with her. At which point she mentioned her boyfriend. Who was a cop. Me: O.o
Ro left to become a strict admiral in battlestar galactica and stripped a civilian fleet and marooned them . What would happen if captain Picard knew that .
Then Riker went back to the holodeck for playing his part in his favorite franchise. He gets in the position where he left. He says: "Continue scene." Followed by yelling: "Don't do it Anakin! I got the high ground!"
I think what makes this scene funny is the outlandish outfit Riker is wearing. He's being all serious while giving his report to Picard but you can't help but feel amused at his outfit. I keep on expecting Picard to burst out laughing.
This was the perfect setup for Ro Laren to be on Voyager. But Michelle Forbes turned down the role, so they created B'Elanna Torres instead. Ro Laren would have been much better. Hence, Ro Laren probably died when the Dominion eradicated the entire Maquis.
That was only an early idea, and never pursued seriously, as there was too little character development (just two episodes) for Ro Laren by the time DS9 started, and she was too young to be in a romance with Odo. But Ro Laren's departure from TNG was the perfect setup for Voyager, which is why it was done exactly this way as we see in this video here. But in the summer between the two shows (summer of 1994), Michelle Forbes declined. A shame, as I like her much more than B'Elanna Torres (and she is the same age as Robert Duncan Neill, whereas Roxann Dawson is much older). Remember that Ro Laren + Nick Lacarno (Tom Paris) was a very natural romance of similar personality types.
+to g She was seriously considered for DS9, but Michelle Forbes had an on-off relationship with the producers. I'm not sure the full details were ever revealed, but she had issues which scrapped her position on DS9. Then things got better and the possibility of being on Voyager came up. Then things went sour again and she declined.Trek is actually full of weird little behind-the-scenes oddities like this. For instance, you mentioned Nick Locarno. The official reason the character was changed to Tom Paris was that the producers believed Nick had gone to far to be redeemable. The real reason, which came out much later, was that they didn't want to have to pay royalties to the writer of "The First Duty," for every episode of Voyager.Also, Gates McFadden's exit from TNG is an unpleasant story, if you know that behind-the-scenes tale.
I like Kira better than Ro Laren, but Ro Laren i a lot better than Torres. So Ro on Voyager would have been a great fit. Ro was a bit young for a romance with Rene Auberjonois....
+to g B'lanna was ok. They needed a Klingon character on Voyager. Watching gradually embrace her Klingon culture realizing how rich and honorable it is and nothing to be ashamed of.
@@OlaBetiku Well, he had plenty of confrontations with the Borg, and a chance to "recover" to some extent from it. He didn't see Ro for 30 years after she joined the Maquis, so had no chance to confront his feelings about what happened there.
Then we have Sisko, who in a similar situation flew into a rage until he got his revenge (or in his mind: justice). Would have been slightly more interesting if they went the angle of Sisko actually taking things too far and losing, as opposed to the conclusion of him taking things too far, winning, and getting away with it. Though what can you do? Most shows have to go the path of the good guys winning. Shades of gray seem to confuse people.
Petra Meyer that can't be it. "In the Pale Moonlight" was one of the best Star Trek episodes. Sisko didn't rage there - not much. I think he's talking about the episode when Sisko poisoned a Maqui planet, but that was calculated action as well. What episode could he be talking about?
PetersaberHD Yeah I was referring to how Picard handled a personal betrayal compared to how Sisko handled a personal betrayal. Sisko basically committed mass genocide on a planetary scale using a biological weapon of mass destruction. Course you could say all the colonists got out safely, I mean surely the colonists had enough ships to evacuate the hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people right? Even if not a single soul died, there was the matter of using a chemical weapon; which you'd think would be considered illegal, a war-crime, or something that might end up with a court-martial. If it's something that kills humans, odds are it's going to kill other animals as well (devastating the ecosystem). Course instead you got the "They traded planets, so everything is okay." logic in the end. That or "no one messes with Sisko, not even the Federation."
I really love this episode. And in the context of What Ro Laren experiences in this episode it makes perfect sense that she'd join the Maquis. But I really wish there'd been a resolution to her and Picard's story.
A very great scene with Captain Jean-Luc Picard's look on his face. He was betrayed by Ro Laren, he put his trust into her and thought she bettered herself. I do understood why Ro Laren joined the Maquis cause they were dealing with the Cardassians and she and a lot of other Bajorans lost a lot of loved ones to the Cardassians when they occupied Bajor.
That was a pretty unnerving scene to see Picard like that. You could see the hurt, betrayal and anger all coming together. The only other reaction that falls just underneath this is when he stares out at earth from his Ready Room window at the end of "Best of Both Worlds Part II". Such incredible scenes and yet no words uttered by Picard.
Have a smile on my face every time the music queues and the credits role. TNG shows the highest example of decency and what it means to be an exemplary human. That’s why it was the best.
I always hoped that Ro found peace with her new home. Her character deserved a fulfilling path. You could tell it was not an easy decision for her.... She was a great character wonderfully played by Michelle Forbes.
+Schwarzer Ritter She was actually supposed to be in DS9, but declined a long term contract. Kira was created to be her transparent replacement after much begging and no budging.
Basically they're cheap to make, so think of it like a dollar store USB drive for a buck, but in this case, it's free because of replicator technology. Gotta love them replicator stations!
My headcanon is that they're all on separate pads for encryption & security purposes. Think about it. Modern iPads can do a lot more than the pads in TNG, but they're about as secure as a paper door with a chocolate lock. A de facto military organisation like Starfleet, the vanguard of the largest power in the alpha/beta quadrants, has to pass information about it's deployments and statuses and analyses and operations on these pads whilst keeping them out of the hands of the romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, etc. So if a modern iPad can access all the information known to humankind and still have enough processing power left over to function as a mobile, notepad, library, calculator and gaming console, and a pad the same size from 300 years in the future has only been demonstrated to hold, at most, a few page's worth of text and graphs, then what's the extra circuitry being used for? 24th century firewalls, that's what. And storing all the information on different pads means that, even if the enemy does manage to crack one somehow, they only get a very, very, *very* small piece of the picture.
There is an important scene earlier where Ro and Picard meet to discuss the developments and Picard sees that she's wavering. Its why Riker was added, but he also tells her (and I am not exact quoting so forgive me) if you aren't sure where your loyalties lie, let me know and we will pull you out.' Basically 'if you're going Maquis, be honest with me, we will end the op, I will send you home and you can sort this out WHEN not in the middle of an operation.' And that's why he is beside himself pissed. 1) he saw this coming and let it play out. 2) he trusted her, having given her the out and she telling him 'i can do this', to do her duty and put her personal feelings aside. 3) he doesn't know if she made that decision when they were talking or at the trigger pull. If its the former, oh fuck you. If its the latter, why did you wait to sort this out so long. I don't think Picard has an issue with 'you joined the Maquis'. No, while he doesn't agree with their behavior, this is a 'personal truth' situation I feel. He will do his duty, if starfleet tasks him, of apprehending Maquis forces but its' not personal.
prion42 If i remember correctly she protested when Picard suggested pulling her. Picard had two options: pull her or put trust in her in spite of doubts. The later is high risk and you will usually get burned and he did.
@@prion42 He also floated the idea of having her court marshalled if she sabotaged the mission. Which is generally a bad idea to mention if you want to keep your loyal double agent whos having second thoughts on your side.
When you die stupidly and realise your last save was 2 hours ago.
trying to play FO2. yeah, thats happened a few times now
@Malk Von Batshit GODDAMNIT I KNOW THIS FEELING FROM STARSECTOR. Oh god, it's so .....fucking....agonizing. UUUUUUAAAGGGG
No, what’s worse is when you realize you’ve JUST saved, but it was AFTER the mistake you made, so you need to move back to a previous save 2 hours ago. (Like the famous Skyrim ‘load and die’ clips)
Same result, but it feels so much worse.
2 hours ago? man , i once made character , played 5-6 hours and due save corruption my character got just flat out deleted.
Lmao
Geordi: "So, what did the Captain say?"
Riker: "Nothing."
Geordi: "Shit."
No cursing in space. He would have said, "That's bad!"
@@nogohoho "And you don't have to take my word for it."
*Da dat dum!*
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Christ died for your sins and rose on the third day, showing that anyone who trusts in him for salvation, will have everlasting life.
(John 11:25-26) "Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?"
(John 3:16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
@@charlie4christ536 could you please stay away with your excerpts from fairy tale books?
@@charlie4christ536 Amen Brother. Jesus Christ truly is the Saviour. God Bless you for your preaching of the Gospel.
I imagine him thinking to himself, "Shaka, when the walls fell"
Gilgamesh and Enkidu, at Uruk.
The river temarc.
Zinda, his face black, his eyes red
Linda, her eyes red; her parents full of disappointment.
Picard his stare tacit
Meanwhile, Councillor Troi is somewhere on the ship screaming "Make it stop! Please!"
+Aodhan Drain
Troi: *THE CAPTAINS INTERNAL HISSY FIT IS MAKING MY EYES BLEED!!*
+NIELS MICHIELS If she had been around when Picard and Ro were nuzzling each other in that Alien bar...
Imagine that.
tori : holy shit cap. i'm calling sick
Bruh. #dead
Yeah... fans tend to forget that a ship's counselor is kinda important with the kind of crap the Enterprise crew go through.
"Let's see... in the last few years the Captain has lived an entire life and mourned for a wife and children that never existed... been tortured as a prisoner of war... nabbed by the Borg... sexually harassed by my mother... and Q keeps visiting and treating the Captain like a pet or something..."
Excellent line delivery by Stewart in this scene.
He didn't say anything, yet he didn't have to, because the glare said it all.
Anytime I'm asked to do my Patrick Stewart imitation, I quote this scene. Always *spot on.*
what do u mean? he just staring at the wall
read this before seeing the vid and was double confused for 5.3 seconds lol
Reminds me of a comedy sketch where the person being spoken to is later shown to be dead.
Patrick Stewing.
Almost to a boil.
More thumbs! I need more thumbs!
heh
not to be confused with Captain Stubing.
That was way funnier than it should have been.
Picard is famous for giving inspiring, touching highly philosophical speeches on controversial topics and life itself, makes it all the more jarring that the most emotional and thought provoking action is when he says nothing at all.
Indeed. The endings to episodes like "The Best of Both Worlds II" and "The Inner Light" were like that, and both powerful for Picard's silence.
Josh Fredman I'm thinking also of his reaction after announcing to the crew the death of Sito Jaxa at the end of "Lower Decks". It was much the same as this one, and just as effective.
Probably because he's thinking to himself, "If I ever find that little BITCH again, I'll toss her to Nausicaan's as a slave girl for their amusement."
+azraelangelofred
Even when angry, I doubt Picard would do such a thing as that. Probably thinking more along the lines of, "If I see her again, there will be hell to pay."
***** It was meant HUMOROUSLY. Not literally.
I don't agree with this title. Earlier in this episode, Ro Laren met with Picard at a bar and told him that she was having mixed feelings about the operation and was unsure if she could go through with it, and Picard basically strongarmed her into doing it. In this scene, Riker indicates that Ro felt regret about letting Picard down. I think that Picard is feeling regret in this scene for not handling this situation better, and losing one of his people as a result.
Well, done. Treasure your empathy. Not to the level where both of these realities can't exist, because they most certaintly do, but as the comments show, you see something that others can not... and that is a powerful thing.~ but we all see a man betrayed by one he had become quite fond of imagining keeping close in life, a life he mourns, which will never be.
Or he's just really pissed.
@@BlayzedBlue I'd go with pissed
@Paul Stejskal I think it's that exactly. This isn't a face of simple rage; we see rage in First Contact in the holodeck shooting and the model-ship smashing scenes. This scene is much more complicated... I'd call it a deeply conflicted loss for words.
yes but fuck Ro, she was the most unlikable person in the entire series, people like polouski more
Picard always looks young and old at the same time
+Sara B. he looks more or less that same today as when he appeared in Dune 30 years ago.
+Sublime Thinker Once you go bald early, the plus side is that you can't really age much after that. Today, Jonathan Frakes looks just as old as Patrick Stewart....
The Face of The Alphabet What’s his secret?! Does he bathe in the blood of the innocent?
xsailor85 His secret is tea, earl grey, hot.
He looks like he somewhere between 30 and 60.
I have this same reaction every time they screw up my order at the drive through.
Byron MacGreggor XD
Byron MacGreggor lmao
Byron MacGreggor thats awesome
Byron MacGreggor Dude, this gave me a hearty fucking laugh, thank you!
+Byron MacGreggor Yeah, it's not anger, just disappointment :)))
Picard: Reacts to treachery with a tacit stare.
Sisko: Reacts to treachery by destroying the ecospheres of entire planets.
Sisko is a madman and a criminal that belongs behind bars.
Good job, you've shown you barely watched the episode you made that comment from. The Maquis has just detonated a similar device on a Cardassian colony which had a similar effect....Cardassians *ONLY* could no longer live there. The planet Sisko attacked, was made uninhabitable to *HUMANS* >>> *_ONLY_*
Boom! You got out-trekked fool!
tremedar - Let's cut all the bullshit away, shall we? Sisko used biological weapons, weapons of mass destruction, against civilians. And the spineless pieces of shit on the bridge let him, although Starfleet certainly would have clausing obliging its personnel to disobey illegal orders. Which, knowing that the Federation is generally a benevolent society, the use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians certainly would be.
I did watch the episode. That's why I know that Sisko did this because of his own ego.
Wherefore I will just repeat what I said earlier: Sisko is a madman and a criminal that belongs behind bars.
Walter Kovacs - I assume it's tremedar you're adressing, because the only one who got "out-trekked" was him
Picard:....Riker. Why the fuck are you dressed like a Jedi Padawan?
+sailtheplains In the episode, he and an ensign named Ro Lauren were infiltrating a terrorist group called the Maquis.
Star trek voyager anyone? the next generation? Deep space 9?
Riker defected so he could become a Jedi in a galaxy far, far away. The ultimate treachery...
nobody told him that jedi shy away of relationships and sex tho ...
He follows the teachings of Anakin Skywalker, not the Jedi Council.
30 years. And now we get closure to this scene.
You know, it's funny. I always looked at this scene completely differently. I always saw it as Picard realizing he's pushed someone who was conflicted too far and she ended up switching sides. The anger of the scene was Picard being more upset with himself than with Ro, after he realized he'd pushed someone too far for the benefit of the mission.
I don't know. Ro wasn't on board. I think she grew to respect Picard but he wanted her to be something that she wasn't. Sometimes the military does horrible things and forces people to stand on their values.
I always thought this scene was far more complicated than mere anger, too. Picard felt genuine paternal affection for Ro.
It's a shame we never saw Ro again. With DS9 being centered around Bajorans it would have been nice to have a few episodes with her. (p.s. Yes I'm aware of the Ro vs. Kira decision when they were creating the series, I'm talking about a guest appearance).
@@electricalen I would've preferred Ro to Kira, honestly. Kira was, in my opinion, much more arrogant than Ro. And that resting bitch face of hers...!
@@denniselliott27 Yes, it would've been more interesting for her to meet Maj. Kira on the prominade and it would turn out they knew each other and disliked each other immensly with it turning into hand to hand on the deck. "Ops to security: we have a disturbance in the prominade". Odo and his boys break them up and escort both to the brig. Kira ends up standing to in front of Sisko in his office where a froth spewing, vein bulgin Sisko demands to know what the **** is her major malfunction. It would've been an interesting story.
Jokes aside, this is still some great acting from Patrick Stewart. The range of emotions; anger, disappointment, regret; he conveys with a single facial expression is impressive.
There is saddness in there too. His eyes. The man is a gift
Director simply told him to ... look bored.
@@CloudianMH he in real life is a political idiot.
@@JACKnJESUS QI
@@brianjones8899 exactly...
Riker seems a little freaked out at Picard's tranquil fury.
+Seasick Crocodile Anyone should be.
Yeah, he got out of that ready room real quick.
The man who is able to give articulate, philosophical, and moving speeches in basically any situation has no words. Yeah...time to not be in this room.
"Umm... Yeah, I'll just put this right... there.... and get the F*** outta here!" 😁
Didn't even wait to be dismissed.
and about 30 years later we got the resolution
Man, that fish in the wall was like, "Riker! Don't leave me here!"
Oh yeah. Livingston (Picard's fish) had definitely seen 'Total Recall'.
Lol 😂
This is one of those great Picard moments. He became an unlikely champion of Ro on her journey to redemption, he had a downright paternal pride when she made lieutenant and took Chakotay’s class. How he feels the betrayal! But he also understands that she’s an extremely conscientious person and could not help but be true to herself here. And that she still regrets letting him down after all. Yes, no wonder he’s too conflicted for words.
I would love to know what happened to Ro.
Youngstown529 Probably killed by Jem’Hadar.
Wait, when did Chakotay appear in TNG?
@@samcochran8203 He didn't appear directly, but he taught a class on advanced tactical training before leaving Starfleet, and Ro was one of his students.
Another I agree from me. Why Stewart was never nominated for being a Supreme actor. Even when saying nothing
Picard's silence speaks a thousand words.
why?
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Sure does. Because he ain't doing that 😂
@@davidhatcher7016 He was outsmarted. He currently won't let Riker's talk of right and wrong emotionally sway him further.
Riker: Here's my report... wait a minute, this is a mannequin
Hedgpig i dont wanna blast out laughing w my roomate hearing
I did wonder if it was really him or a mannequin.
"It's not a mannequin, this is Picard! He's just playing a foolish game!"
"Well someone's playing a game with you!"
Patrick Stewart is a god-tier actor. Without saying anything, without moving, he elicits the perfect emotional response. Not just anyone can do that.
He's a great actor, but not really because of this scene. He actually just sits there, the emotional context is conveyed by the music and the camera angle (and to a certain extent by the silence in reaction to Riker's lines). There are plenty of Picard scenes that show his range and ability; this is not one of them.
Yup. Eddie James Olmos did the same kinda think in the newish BSG. in many scenes he just tore out my heart with a silent look or a solemn expression...
To bad he now decided to smash and defile the image of the captain he worked so hard to create (in the Pickard series).
my wife can, next
This scene has been growing on me for months. It's beautiful in it's layered-ness. He's infuriated, would have her court marshaled, but also sad and regretful for not having provided a better alternative.
Although true, I think Picard is far more furious about the fact that after all he's done for Ro, she still betrayed him.
@@vipermustang42 From my memory of this episode I felt like Picard put Ro in a corner when they met in the bar. He threatened a court martial if she didn't go through with the mission.
He's boiling, because it's partly his fault, and he knows it.
@@kevaninthe4135 That's true too. He did railroad her into it doing the mission and like you said, he knows he has to take some blame here.
@@vipermustang42 He badly misplayed his hand. Very un-Picard. Hubris can be a messy thing.
I think he is just as mad at himself as he at her.
This is almost a Master Class in "less is more". Any words spoken would have taken away from the emotion of that scene.
File CptJLPicard.exe is not opening.
I believe it should be 'application'
Picard.exe stopped responding. Do you wish to send a report to Microsoft?
Yes. - No.
Picard just had a BSOD which is windows jargon for the Blue Screen of death which then some one should have press Ctrl Alt Del and have him restarted
Error404
That made me laugh out loud
Little did William know Picard was having a stroke, good thing Doctor Crusher was just passing by the bridge at the time.
She broke his heart!
My exact response to the recent CBS/Kurtzman offerings....
I think what makes the Maquis story arc so great is that, in a future where Humanity is enlightened and has formed a Utopian society, they're presented with a situation for which there isn't an easy answer.
I didn't like anything about the Maquis storyline at all.
Um yes there is, when the Cadassians provoke Starfleet don't diffuse the situation with diplomacy and appeasement, but let a shooting war start… and *invite the Klingons.*
Starfleet has much more advanced combat ships by now (Akira class and all the post Wolf 359 models) and can just take out the Cadassian fleet in space without having to worry about ground combat. And with the addition of the Klingon fleet it will be overwhelming victory.
In addition having the Klingons fight side by side will help the Alliance and stability in the Klingon Empire - a good war every once in a while is necessary to blow off steam and give the hotheads something to shoot at besides each other, their leaders … *or their allies.*
The Federation Klingon alliance takes out Cadassian fleet forces fast, scaring the hell out of any rival powers by showing that they would face both "Empires" in any conflict.
As well, once the fleet is neutralised Cadassian planets world surrender immediately to the Federation rather than risk ground invasion from the Klingons.
A good cop/bad cop routine.
Surrender to the nice Federation (where quality of life will probably improve) or face bloodthirsty Klingons in hand to hand combat (after they orbitaly bombard your planet).
It will be similar to the end of Germany in WW2, where they were running to surrender to the American/commonwealth forces ahead of the advancing Soviets.
@DriftZ TwoSeven I had a hard time with that as well, but my country is only the place I pay taxes and own property in. If there were a place I wanted to go to or it became less attractive to live here, I'd ditch it in a hot second.
Defending a planet with guerrilla tactics when I'm freely offered one of equal quality seems silly to me.
@DriftZ TwoSeven Canada is my homeland. Has been for 36 years and never lived anywhere else.
I'd still ditch it if it suited me. I'm not a "roots" guy.
All the maquis had to do was move their people.
They were colonists when the conflict began; colonist means they cam from somewhere else before they were here.
Let them colonize somewhere else...somewhere not in conflict.
A guerilla action against the Cardies is only going to fuel their xenophobic tendencies.
If you don't want to lose your face, don't go sticking it into rotating fan-blades.
Sisko would have chased her to the edge of the galaxy for that.
TGGeko No matter what the cost was to the tax payer. = )
Infernal460 Joke's on you, the federation is a 100% socialist government!
Save them Ferangi, save them.
TGGeko And that's why Star Trek will never exist.
+Marco Star trek has no monetary value system, yet the rest of the world does not work that way, so they have to have some sort of value to bargain with in case they need to.
30 years of pain resolved in 5 minutes of conversation.
When your employees are talking you but you're thinking of whether you left the stove on or not
Sir Patrick Steward is such an amazing actor. He can put miles of meaning behind nothing but a stare.
Without a single word, Picard's dialogue in this scene has managed to convey far more emotion than is present throughout the entirety of discovery.
Burnham has the exact same expression whether she's happy or watching her captain murdered by Klingons.
So true
I disagree. I've seen a few scenes of STD and there were FULL of hatred. The Captain with her excuse of a face alone...
Go cry to doomcock.
That's a low bar.
Riker looks like a Jedi Padawan! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That datapad could almost look like a lightsabre.
This was S7E24, not S6
That is the sole reason why Picard is giving the dead stare. How could anyone get the season so wrong.
So… who else came back here after today?
Quick eject the captain.
Don't you mean warp core?
Trust me this explosion is going to be bigger.
Bravo, sir
As the credits rolled, we should have heard a tremendous F-bomb. That would have been perfect.
LOL. That would have made this episode ten times better.
Glitcher2000 ROFL
+Glitcher2000 I would have preferred he replicated a cup of tea, and then held it so hard that the glass cracked.
That would have been vulgar, crude, unenlightened, lowbred.
It would be like bescumbering the Picard character
Starfleet prohibits the use of F-bombs on all starships, if you see a starfleet officer dropping a F-bomb please report the issue to your nearest ranking supervisor.....
IA officer Blargh's report, Starfleet officer, one Captain jean Luc Picard was arrested today for...wait seriously?? using a f-bomb whatever that is and will spend the next hour washing the childrens classroom walls......that will be all, Commander Riker will be in command for the next hour, that will be all dismissed....I said dismissed!
Only Patrick Stewart could look like he's acting when he's just sitting there doing nothing
But was that really him, or a life like statue in his place?
@@whitewolf3051 Little known fact, they actually made a wax statue of Patrick Stewart that looked extremely lifelike just for this one scene.
@@Cobalt985 Really, for reals? I thought it was Patrick doing a great acting just by being statuesque for that scene.
@@whitewolf3051 No, I made that up. But it's a bit funny, right? Lol.
@@Cobalt985 Funny? From a certain point of view, perhaps. But it was not cool to pull a fast one on anyone.
Usually you expect someone to say something. It's scarier when they just glare and say nothing
This is so great because normally Picard is so experienced and well rounded, seen everything, is morally grounded, has strong character, but something happened here that he just doesn't know how to react to, which again is very rare. Normally he immediately knows how to react to a situation, even one that can appear complicated to someone else, but this one has got him trying to figure out what to make of it all, very interesting.
Off camera, Ro's clothes fell off.
I expected Picard to go back to the home vineyard for another mud wrestle with his brother. This is the only episode of Star Trek that I refuse to rewatch!
There are three things all wise men fear:
The sea at storm
A moonless night
And the anger of a gentle man.
Sounds quite historical, is that quote? (also the anger of a gentle man sounds dangerous, true)
@@psychepeteschannel5500 it's from the kingkiller chronicle, specifically "The Wise Man's Fear."
It's not really used in the books at all, but it's a nice standalone quote.
Demons run when a good man goes to war.
@@TaranTheGiant Night will fall and drown the sun when a good man goes to war.
Too bad that we never found out what happened to Ro Laren and Tom Riker, at least not onscreen. Of course there are novels which explain what happened afterwards. But many people seem to have problems with those, because they were declared as non-canon.
Tom Riker appears in DS9 if I recall.
Yes, in the season 3 episode "Defiant". There were considerations to continue the Tom Riker arc in DS9 after season 3, but it was discarded. That's why I wrote the comment above.
There was the idea to use Ro as Bajoran Liasion Officer for DS), so basically Kira's position.
In accordance with DS9, the resistance she was a member of, the Maquis, was destroyed after Cardassia sided with the Dominion. With the exception of the ones on the U.S.S. Voyager or already in prison, they were all killed. There were no survivors. It's logical to presume she was killed as well.
Petra Meyer Yes, but once Forbes left TNG she didn't want to return to Star Trek.
How Federation Captains react when starfleet officers defect to the Maqui
Picard: stares
Sisko: Destroys the atmosphere of every Maqui colony until the defector surrenders
Janeway: Follows them into an ion storm and forces them to become starfleet officers for 7 years
My reaction to All things JJ Abrams is very similar
Wow edgy and unique.
Amen.
hahaha
Ironically this time PIcard was probably in the wrong. As you may well be.
How can I be...wrong about my reaction to a disgusting series of films with poor storing telling, bad plots and over ripe cliches.
This man, what an actor! One of the best shots in TNG. His expression says more than a thousand words.
Picard: "Sorry, what was that? Sometimes I nap with my eyes open."
His Speeches are powerful even when he is silent. Truly a picture that paints a thousand words.
Mr. Stewart’s reaction when Brent called his house for the third time that day mimicking him, to tell his wife she was fat.........
I knew exactly how he felt: Ro Laren was my favorite "Trek" character, the one that got me watching regularly. In fact, it was a bit of a crush. I hated seeing her story end like this, when i wanted such a bright future for her, and it hurt me, too.
This was the saddest moment of my life as a Trekkie.
I know how you felt Nick, Ro was a very important character to me too. But if you think about it we were actually quite lucky to get the send-off we did end up seeing.
I'm sure I read an interview many years ago that revealed that by this point Forbes wasn't really interested in coming back anymore, and it took some convincing to get her to make one final appearance. It was a terrific episode, giving Ro the spotlight in a big way, AND it was the penultimate episode in the final season. The character came very close to never coming back ... but she went out in triumphant style.
After Ro's fantastic involvement in 'The Next Phase' I couldn't wait to see what would happen next ... little did I know that apart from a few seconds at the beginning of 'Rascals', she would vanish until 'Preemptive Strike'. More than a two year gap, but worth the wait. Ro was never destined to be an officer, she was too much of a free spirit, and her decision to betray Picard was the right thing for her. I think in time Picard would see that too.
I know about the backstory to Forbes' final appearance, actually, but thanks nonetheless.
For me, the potential sadness is the destruction of the Maquis, a few years later, and Ro's probable death in the process. I know that the DS9 novels suggested otherwise, but that's only secondary canon.
To me it seems implausible Ro would still be alive after the Dominion war. It was made clear the Maquis were wiped out by the Jem'Hadar, aside from that group Eddington had gathered, and it was clear she was not with them. And assuming the Federation had arrested her, it's unlikely she would have been released from prison for a very long time, not to mention would never be wearing a uniform again.
As I said, there was a whole set of non-canon DS9 novels that showed her surviving, and they dealt with exactly those issues: Ro was shown as having barely survived and joined the Bajoran, rather than Federation, military after Picard got Starfleet off her back. But that's just one possibility.
Sisko's response to treachery typically involes gassing a whole planet
"typically" lol
"What did he say?"
"Enough."
I often quote Picards speech in this scene to relatives at Christmas.
"I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed...in space. Roll credits."
Stone-faced Picard is the scariest Picard.
When she's intensely flirting with you but then tells you she has a boyfriend
You -> Picard's face.
Proper response:
You: I have a goldfish.
Her: What?
You: I thought we were talking about things that don't matter.
Better response:
You:oh I have a math test tomorrow.
Her: What?
You:I thought we were talking about things we were going to cheat on.
Yuri Sonovab: LMAO that's perfect....
+Konstantin Sterly that LITERALLY just happened to me on Friday! This absolutely GORGEOUS brunette girl in my writing class kept giving me a flirty smile, as she had done for the past WEEK, only to shoot me down with those insufferable four words "I have a boyfriend." I didn't really react. I just walked away when class ended. I was PISSED. OFF.
@@mitchellneu I'll one up you. A while back when I was single, I was at a bar, having a quick drink, minding my own business, and a girl, good looking, blonde, leaned over my shoulder to introduce herself, got me up from the bar, took me out to the dance floor, did not quite a bump and grind, but a pretty flirty dance with me, and then invited me to go out and have a cigarette with her. At which point she mentioned her boyfriend. Who was a cop.
Me: O.o
He's not angry, he's DISAPPOINTED. That's worse.
I always sympathized with Ro.
"Moods are things for cattle, and loveplay. Now, guard yourself for truth..."
+1 for the Dune reference
@@cteal2018
Strange as most of Lynch's Dune felt, Stewart as Gurney felt like he belonged in the Atreides forces. God bless the man.
"if you had fought one wit below your abilities,... I'd have given you a good scar to remind you."
gird.
(groan) Shield practice again?
That was his tacit stare hologram. The real Picard was in the head.
This was Season 7, Episode 24, actually.
“Ensign Ro, you have committed an act of UTTER BARBARITY!”
Sometimes, even for the articulate Picard, there are no words.
They really did us dirty with STP, didn't they...
Plot twist: Picard hasn’t heard a thing, and is trying his new toilet desk chair.
And 30 years later we have Picard Season 3
Ro left to become a strict admiral in battlestar galactica and stripped a civilian fleet and marooned them .
What would happen if captain Picard knew that .
Here because of Picard season 3 ep. 5
That glare made me feel like I let him down too
Starfleet: The only military in history where department heads are seldom on the ship.
If I recall this is the second to last episode ever.
"Huh? Sorry, you were saying? Oh, he's gone."
Picard S03E05...he held on to that anger for thirty years.
Then Riker went back to the holodeck for playing his part in his favorite franchise. He gets in the position where he left.
He says: "Continue scene."
Followed by yelling:
"Don't do it Anakin! I got the high ground!"
I think what makes this scene funny is the outlandish outfit Riker is wearing. He's being all serious while giving his report to Picard but you can't help but feel amused at his outfit. I keep on expecting Picard to burst out laughing.
"I've mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still, that I become invisible to the eye"
Shows how skilled an actor he is that he can show so much just with silence and the expression on his face.
This was the perfect setup for Ro Laren to be on Voyager.
But Michelle Forbes turned down the role, so they created B'Elanna Torres instead. Ro Laren would have been much better.
Hence, Ro Laren probably died when the Dominion eradicated the entire Maquis.
+to g I thought Laren was supposed to be Kira on DS9?
That was only an early idea, and never pursued seriously, as there was too little character development (just two episodes) for Ro Laren by the time DS9 started, and she was too young to be in a romance with Odo.
But Ro Laren's departure from TNG was the perfect setup for Voyager, which is why it was done exactly this way as we see in this video here. But in the summer between the two shows (summer of 1994), Michelle Forbes declined. A shame, as I like her much more than B'Elanna Torres (and she is the same age as Robert Duncan Neill, whereas Roxann Dawson is much older). Remember that Ro Laren + Nick Lacarno (Tom Paris) was a very natural romance of similar personality types.
+to g She was seriously considered for DS9, but Michelle Forbes had an on-off relationship with the producers. I'm not sure the full details were ever revealed, but she had issues which scrapped her position on DS9. Then things got better and the possibility of being on Voyager came up. Then things went sour again and she declined.Trek is actually full of weird little behind-the-scenes oddities like this. For instance, you mentioned Nick Locarno. The official reason the character was changed to Tom Paris was that the producers believed Nick had gone to far to be redeemable. The real reason, which came out much later, was that they didn't want to have to pay royalties to the writer of "The First Duty," for every episode of Voyager.Also, Gates McFadden's exit from TNG is an unpleasant story, if you know that behind-the-scenes tale.
I like Kira better than Ro Laren, but Ro Laren i a lot better than Torres.
So Ro on Voyager would have been a great fit.
Ro was a bit young for a romance with Rene Auberjonois....
+to g B'lanna was ok. They needed a Klingon character on Voyager. Watching gradually embrace her Klingon culture realizing how rich and honorable it is and nothing to be ashamed of.
Would be hilarious if Picard kept this grudge for 30 years.
I guess you have something to laugh at then.
He held on to this longer than his hate for the Borg
@@OlaBetiku Well, he had plenty of confrontations with the Borg, and a chance to "recover" to some extent from it. He didn't see Ro for 30 years after she joined the Maquis, so had no chance to confront his feelings about what happened there.
Are you saying this after seeing the most recent episodes of Picard Season 3?
@@Creshex8 Ding Ding Ding :D
In another room, Troi is screaming in terror.
Wow, someone who puts the season/episode in the description! The world needs more like you.
Then... “Tea, Earl Gray, hot.”
Extra Hot
Then we have Sisko, who in a similar situation flew into a rage until he got his revenge (or in his mind: justice). Would have been slightly more interesting if they went the angle of Sisko actually taking things too far and losing, as opposed to the conclusion of him taking things too far, winning, and getting away with it.
Though what can you do? Most shows have to go the path of the good guys winning. Shades of gray seem to confuse people.
Yes but you can not forget "Itssss a Faaaake!" That was VERY dark grey.
Petra Meyer What episode was that? It's driving me nuts now!
Nathan Oakes
DS9, "In the Pale Moonlight”, Sisko pulls the Romulans into the Dominion war.
Petra Meyer
that can't be it. "In the Pale Moonlight" was one of the best Star Trek episodes. Sisko didn't rage there - not much. I think he's talking about the episode when Sisko poisoned a Maqui planet, but that was calculated action as well.
What episode could he be talking about?
PetersaberHD
Yeah I was referring to how Picard handled a personal betrayal compared to how Sisko handled a personal betrayal. Sisko basically committed mass genocide on a planetary scale using a biological weapon of mass destruction. Course you could say all the colonists got out safely, I mean surely the colonists had enough ships to evacuate the hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people right? Even if not a single soul died, there was the matter of using a chemical weapon; which you'd think would be considered illegal, a war-crime, or something that might end up with a court-martial. If it's something that kills humans, odds are it's going to kill other animals as well (devastating the ecosystem). Course instead you got the "They traded planets, so everything is okay." logic in the end. That or "no one messes with Sisko, not even the Federation."
Teacher: What do you call an acid with an attitude? A-mean-o Acid
Student: 0:30
Picard Season 3 nailed the follow up to this in spades
I really love this episode. And in the context of What Ro Laren experiences in this episode it makes perfect sense that she'd join the Maquis. But I really wish there'd been a resolution to her and Picard's story.
Paul Scott She was probably killed when the Cardassians - Jem Hadar killed most of the Maquis. Only a handful survived
There just was!!!
@@SteveBrant55 I watched it a couple of hours ago. SO worth it!
A very great scene with Captain Jean-Luc Picard's look on his face. He was betrayed by Ro Laren, he put his trust into her and thought she bettered herself. I do understood why Ro Laren joined the Maquis cause they were dealing with the Cardassians and she and a lot of other Bajorans lost a lot of loved ones to the Cardassians when they occupied Bajor.
+jeffman52001 Still a betrayal of trust. And Picard is as big on trust as Sisko is.
@Stefano Pavone That doesn't matter. It's still a plain betrayal, and Picard is right to be furious.
@Stefano Pavone This was an instance where Picard overplayed his hand very badly and it pushed Ro away.
That was a pretty unnerving scene to see Picard like that. You could see the hurt, betrayal and anger all coming together. The only other reaction that falls just underneath this is when he stares out at earth from his Ready Room window at the end of "Best of Both Worlds Part II". Such incredible scenes and yet no words uttered by Picard.
Have a smile on my face every time the music queues and the credits role. TNG shows the highest example of decency and what it means to be an exemplary human. That’s why it was the best.
The look when dad's find out their daughter is doing only fans
This episode is form 7th Season instead the 6th, as it is posted.
De fato. Aliás, esse é o penúltimo episódio da série.
Sir Patrick is certainly a wordsmith. All the theater experience shows in this scene.
NOT A WORD SAID , BUT VOLUMES SPOKEN IN A STONE FACED STARE! ! WELL DONE MR STEWART, WELL DONE ! ! 🙂🙂🙂
I always hoped that Ro found peace with her new home. Her character deserved a fulfilling path. You could tell it was not an easy decision for her.... She was a great character wonderfully played by Michelle Forbes.
No starfleet went on the attack and arrested or killed them all after this, Picard knows ro screwed herself.
I really liked Ro I was so sad to see her go.
She's in Half-life 2 and chicago fire
danwat1234 holy crap, I never twigged that Judith Mossman was VAed by Ensign Ro until now.
Kiyosuki Yeah, they really missed the opportunity of making her part of the Voyager crew.
Probably some legal issue.
+danwat1234 And True Blood
+Schwarzer Ritter She was actually supposed to be in DS9, but declined a long term contract. Kira was created to be her transparent replacement after much begging and no budging.
My face when I watch Star Trek: Picard.
Weird that he hands over the entire device rather than just the file. There must be stacks of these "iPads" everywhere.
+Jinmane Think of the pad as a file, since you can replicate and recycle them at will ^_^
+Jinmane I think you ment iPhone5 or 6 or whatever
Basically they're cheap to make, so think of it like a dollar store USB drive for a buck, but in this case, it's free because of replicator technology. Gotta love them replicator stations!
My headcanon is that they're all on separate pads for encryption & security purposes.
Think about it. Modern iPads can do a lot more than the pads in TNG, but they're about as secure as a paper door with a chocolate lock. A de facto military organisation like Starfleet, the vanguard of the largest power in the alpha/beta quadrants, has to pass information about it's deployments and statuses and analyses and operations on these pads whilst keeping them out of the hands of the romulans, Cardassians, Dominion, etc.
So if a modern iPad can access all the information known to humankind and still have enough processing power left over to function as a mobile, notepad, library, calculator and gaming console, and a pad the same size from 300 years in the future has only been demonstrated to hold, at most, a few page's worth of text and graphs, then what's the extra circuitry being used for?
24th century firewalls, that's what.
And storing all the information on different pads means that, even if the enemy does manage to crack one somehow, they only get a very, very, *very* small piece of the picture.
There is an important scene earlier where Ro and Picard meet to discuss the developments and Picard sees that she's wavering. Its why Riker was added, but he also tells her (and I am not exact quoting so forgive me) if you aren't sure where your loyalties lie, let me know and we will pull you out.' Basically 'if you're going Maquis, be honest with me, we will end the op, I will send you home and you can sort this out WHEN not in the middle of an operation.'
And that's why he is beside himself pissed. 1) he saw this coming and let it play out. 2) he trusted her, having given her the out and she telling him 'i can do this', to do her duty and put her personal feelings aside. 3) he doesn't know if she made that decision when they were talking or at the trigger pull. If its the former, oh fuck you. If its the latter, why did you wait to sort this out so long.
I don't think Picard has an issue with 'you joined the Maquis'. No, while he doesn't agree with their behavior, this is a 'personal truth' situation I feel. He will do his duty, if starfleet tasks him, of apprehending Maquis forces but its' not personal.
He didn't offer to pull her out tho. Her told her to do her job, period.
prion42 If i remember correctly she protested when Picard suggested pulling her.
Picard had two options: pull her or put trust in her in spite of doubts. The later is high risk and you will usually get burned and he did.
@@prion42 He also floated the idea of having her court marshalled if she sabotaged the mission. Which is generally a bad idea to mention if you want to keep your loyal double agent whos having second thoughts on your side.
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