You said in another video that this tecnique was like watching magic happen. Well, I've just seen the magic. When you applied the black wash, something mystical occurred and my jaw dropped. There's a whole industry making money off sales of specialised materials. Who needs it when we can perform miracles like you. Deepest thanks.
It’s interesting that table-top gamers will make hills and mountains with foam and paper mache for a surface they’re going to actually play a game on, but some model railroaders will build the Rock of Gibraltar in plaster just to look at. Love your work! Thanks for the inspiration!
Great informative video. 👍 Been experimenting with hardcore, the yellow stuff you lay foundation for patios on. We are in the process of having a new patio so there’s plenty of material 😂.Using some little bits, if you black wash, then brown wash stippling, then black wash again, you end up with an interesting rock colour. I know this is going to be heavier than filler but on N gauge it won’t be that noticeable if you don’t go mad everywhere, but in actual fact the pieces are very light. You can then glue the rocks to the embankment using copydex and static grass between the gaps etc. Just an idea I thought of, probably not new though, but I’m at the scenery stage of my layout and have made 2 embankment’s 1 of which has steep drop offs, so it should make a great rock face. If you paint before you glue up, you can check that the rocks have good consistency of texture/colour. Then finish with foliage at the bottom.
I made a train table with my dad a long time ago and we made a mountain with plywood, chicken wire, and plaster. It’s too bad we didn’t have your inspiration back then. Plaster seemed like the only option. I can’t wait to try your way.
Love your Tutorial Tuesday’s so glad they’re back! Keep them coming... You make what are brilliant effects look so easy and really show what can be done without spending loads of money!
Those are some nice rocks, Mike! Mine will be made of extruded polysterene covered with a layer of plaster cloth and a skim coat of Sculptamold. For paint I'm going to use gray for the base coat, then a black wash. At the rate I'm going, that may be a winter project!
@@BudgetModelRailways I do believe the hardest part is deciding what to put where, and sticking to it. There are always going to be better layouts and layout ideas coming up - one really has to focus on the here and now rather than constantly changing🤣
Decent tips there Mike and Doug,after watching this i have come to realise that my black wash isn't thin enough! but hey its all a learning curve :) I do use the newspaper and cardboard frame work method (when i want a bit of height) in fact my good lady came into my train room and said i had gone full 'Close Encounters of the third kind'as one of my hills was getting a bit tall lol :) if you remember the scene when he was building the mountain,thinking about it they had a model railway as well.
As usual, simple, effective and cheap. I really like your technique for rocks. Now, I just need to have a layout to experiment it, but that will come soon !
If you want to do a snow landscape, finish the painting process with a layer of semi-matte varnish to add water effects, then apply snow powder. Using powdered tile glue or filler is an even cheaper solution if you have leftovers laying around.
Used old newspapers with plain flour and water when I was a kid..it dries and becomes very strong in a short time, we used poster paints...emulsion for larger areas seems a better prospect..
Tesco do a tub of filler like that for about £1, most useful thing I've ever brought, perfect for finishing 3d printed trains & rolling stock as well as doing scenics like this.
Nice simple and effective technique to achieve convincing looking rock faces; carving some horizontal striations with a sharp hobby knife would add some more realism to the overall look. Just a suggestion. Love your channel and videos, cheers from Canada!
Lightweight rocks! Great idea 👍 I am challenged at the moment: I have an old Lima layout, so I have hills in plastic and I would like to make the flat, painted rocks more rocky. I can't use foam because the raw albeit flat structure is already there, the hills should nit get bigger. I am thinking of doing a thin layer of crumpled paper with lots of glue that can harden the paper. Not sure if it would work. What do you think?
Thank you for taking the time to make this wonderful video. I was wondering if in future you could do a segment using only materials such as rocks recovered from the ground, and the soil or sand from same said area this is the challenge I am trying for myself.
Very interesting video. Thank you for posting. I am trying to find the "ready mix filler" in the U.S. but don't see anything similar in tube form. Plaster patching filler in tubs seems to be the closest I can find.
Check any DIY store for ready mixed drywall compound or wall patch repair. You can find it in tubes or a 16 oz container the size of a yogurt or pint ice cream container. Don't be tempted to buy the 5 gallon bucket. It'll get unworkable or even moldy if it sits too long.
Great video guys. i loved it. i will definitley be trying out this technique. By the way, will you be going to the tinkers park model railway exhibition 2020 as it is going ahead and i believe it is the only one to go ahead this year. If you are going you have to bring masks. Stay safe and keep up the great work. jack
Measure the height of your tallest loco or rolling stock Inc the height of your track and ballast, that is your height for the top end plus a few mm to be on the safe side. Make a block from card, wood polystyrene etc the same height and the width of the road and about twice as long. The starting point for the bottom end was the height of the track at the level crossing, helpfully the same thickness as a piece of foam board. Draw your road shape on a piece of thin card, stick the end on the high block with a weight on it and do the same at the low end. When its dry add supports every so often from card or foam board cut to the relevant height. Simple really, don't plan it build it, its what nature does.
The shape came from simply drawing round the Kato track bed. The height is determined by the nessceary height needed to go over the tunnel. So you have the shape cut out in foam board and the verticals. The walls are cereal packet card so it will bend, covered with stone effect card. Individual bricks and corner stones cut from Brown cereal packet card stuck on to make the arches. All pretty straight forward but very time consuming!
Dear BMR I was looking earlier at your previous video on your first N gauge loco and noticed you said the chassis was priced around £13 yet when I looked on websites such as ebay and Amazon they are all 50 or 60. Basically what I am saying is are there still any websites that sell them at that price?
Kato does a production run of a chassis. Unfortunately, profiteers buy them up in huge lots at a cheap price then wait for the shortage to occur. I saw the 11-103 chassis going for over a hundred dollars before the updated 11-109 chassis was introduced.
Unfortunately for me, polystyrene is not a viable material, so I have to use cardboard and paper. I'm one of those people for whom touching or hearing the squeak of polystyrene causes an extremely odd feeling that makes my hairs stand on end - even thinking about the stuff makes me remember it. Whew. Weird feeling.
You said in another video that this tecnique was like watching magic happen. Well, I've just seen the magic. When you applied the black wash, something mystical occurred and my jaw dropped. There's a whole industry making money off sales of specialised materials. Who needs it when we can perform miracles like you. Deepest thanks.
Thanks, as you say no need for expensive products
It’s interesting that table-top gamers will make hills and mountains with foam and paper mache for a surface they’re going to actually play a game on, but some model railroaders will build the Rock of Gibraltar in plaster just to look at.
Love your work! Thanks for the inspiration!
Lol, thats such an accurate comment, thanks
Hurrah! And thank-you!
Very best wishes,
John
Great informative video. 👍 Been experimenting with hardcore, the yellow stuff you lay foundation for patios on. We are in the process of having a new patio so there’s plenty of material 😂.Using some little bits, if you black wash, then brown wash stippling, then black wash again, you end up with an interesting rock colour. I know this is going to be heavier than filler but on N gauge it won’t be that noticeable if you don’t go mad everywhere, but in actual fact the pieces are very light.
You can then glue the rocks to the embankment using copydex and static grass between the gaps etc. Just an idea I thought of, probably not new though, but I’m at the scenery stage of my layout and have made 2 embankment’s 1 of which has steep drop offs, so it should make a great rock face. If you paint before you glue up, you can check that the rocks have good consistency of texture/colour. Then finish with foliage at the bottom.
Sounds great
I made a train table with my dad a long time ago and we made a mountain with plywood, chicken wire, and plaster.
It’s too bad we didn’t have your inspiration back then. Plaster seemed like the only option. I can’t wait to try your way.
Brilliant . . . as always for dummies like me . . . getting me started again !
Love your Tutorial Tuesday’s so glad they’re back! Keep them coming...
You make what are brilliant effects look so easy and really show what can be done without spending loads of money!
Thanks
Thanks. Love those Tutorial Tuesdays.
Those are some nice rocks, Mike! Mine will be made of extruded polysterene covered with a layer of plaster cloth and a skim coat of Sculptamold. For paint I'm going to use gray for the base coat, then a black wash. At the rate I'm going, that may be a winter project!
Excellent love your tutorials as a beginner
Excellent approach being economic with building materials. One can spend a small fortune of dedicated materials, without having need to
Brilliant tips and really good to have Tutorial Tuesday back.
Thanks,more planned
Shows what can be done on a shoestring! Superb stuff 😎 Really looking forward to the next update 👍
Thanks Tim
So simple and so effective and more importantly ...nice and cheap....great video !! Ade
Goodness, you make it all look so easy! You seem to have the trick of imagination - keep it going, very inspirational.
Thanks, it is easy really, some people prefer to make it look hard.
@@BudgetModelRailways I do believe the hardest part is deciding what to put where, and sticking to it. There are always going to be better layouts and layout ideas coming up - one really has to focus on the here and now rather than constantly changing🤣
Great video. I often use foam filler from spray can for rock faces.
Hi you two, another interesting and informative tutorial. Thanks. See ya next time.
I've made so much stuff with your ideas, love what you do and its affordable. (Hi from Leicester).
Hi, it's amazing what you can make cheaply once you get your head round it, glad we could help, have fun.
Decent tips there Mike and Doug,after watching this i have come to realise that my black wash isn't thin enough! but hey its all a learning curve :) I do use the newspaper and cardboard frame work method (when i want a bit of height) in fact my good lady came into my train room and said i had gone full 'Close Encounters of the third kind'as one of my hills was getting a bit tall lol :) if you remember the scene when he was building the mountain,thinking about it they had a model railway as well.
As usual, simple, effective and cheap. I really like your technique for rocks. Now, I just need to have a layout to experiment it, but that will come soon !
Good luck I am sure you will, don't plan, just build it!
Absolutely fantastic I really liked this so clear and easy
Thanks 👍
Thanks
I grew up with Blue Peter back in the 70s brilliant show
Get down Shep !
I like your just do it approach with everything you guys do and the methods used others can learn from that as well.
Thanks
If you want to do a snow landscape, finish the painting process with a layer of semi-matte varnish to add water effects, then apply snow powder.
Using powdered tile glue or filler is an even cheaper solution if you have leftovers laying around.
Lol, no intention to do snow, but thanks
Used old newspapers with plain flour and water when I was a kid..it dries and becomes very strong in a short time, we used poster paints...emulsion for larger areas seems a better prospect..
Great tutorial Mike, thank you.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Tesco do a tub of filler like that for about £1, most useful thing I've ever brought, perfect for finishing 3d printed trains & rolling stock as well as doing scenics like this.
Perfect
Nice simple and effective technique to achieve convincing looking rock faces; carving some horizontal striations with a sharp hobby knife would add some more realism to the overall look. Just a suggestion. Love your channel and videos, cheers from Canada!
Thanks, hi to Canada
Here in the States the presenter would say "through the magic of television, here's a finished one!"
In the UK that would be called a "Blue-Peter Moment".
Get down Shep lol
Good idea using the Blue Peter method.
Top stuff, take care chaps
Lightweight rocks! Great idea 👍 I am challenged at the moment: I have an old Lima layout, so I have hills in plastic and I would like to make the flat, painted rocks more rocky. I can't use foam because the raw albeit flat structure is already there, the hills should nit get bigger. I am thinking of doing a thin layer of crumpled paper with lots of glue that can harden the paper. Not sure if it would work. What do you think?
It's worth a try, you might also try a thin layer of ready mix filler on the paper to give you some texture?
@@BudgetModelRailways Good idea, thanks. The combination of the filler and the glue might give the paper a harder structure.
I am a seasoned modeler, nevertheless I found this video very interesting, so for anyone starting out it is a great tutorial. Cheers Greg
Thanks Greg
Very nice. Will try this at some point.
Thank you for taking the time to make this wonderful video. I was wondering if in future you could do a segment using only materials such as rocks recovered from the ground, and the soil or sand from same said area this is the challenge I am trying for myself.
Great and very helpful 👍
Very interesting video. Thank you for posting. I am trying to find the "ready mix filler" in the U.S. but don't see anything similar in tube form. Plaster patching filler in tubs seems to be the closest I can find.
It might be called something different, poly filler, or spackle?
Check any DIY store for ready mixed drywall compound or wall patch repair. You can find it in tubes or a 16 oz container the size of a yogurt or pint ice cream container. Don't be tempted to buy the 5 gallon bucket. It'll get unworkable or even moldy if it sits too long.
Thanks
Absolutely brilliant video guys! I was going to do something like this then you Guys uploaded just in time
This looks awesome
Thanks
Would wood filler work if you dont have the ready filler?
It's worth a try
Hi on my layout I've been using kids craft colour paint as it's cheaper is that ok for me to use on my layout let me know
Very effective 🙂👍
Thanks
Great video guys. i loved it. i will definitley be trying out this technique. By the way, will you be going to the tinkers park model railway exhibition 2020 as it is going ahead and i believe it is the only one to go ahead this year. If you are going you have to bring masks. Stay safe and keep up the great work. jack
How do get the gradiant for the road to go up to your bridge over the track
Sorry do you mean how did I work it out, or how did I make it?
How did you work it out
Measure the height of your tallest loco or rolling stock Inc the height of your track and ballast, that is your height for the top end plus a few mm to be on the safe side. Make a block from card, wood polystyrene etc the same height and the width of the road and about twice as long. The starting point for the bottom end was the height of the track at the level crossing, helpfully the same thickness as a piece of foam board. Draw your road shape on a piece of thin card, stick the end on the high block with a weight on it and do the same at the low end. When its dry add supports every so often from card or foam board cut to the relevant height. Simple really, don't plan it build it, its what nature does.
How did you plan out and make the viaduct?
The shape came from simply drawing round the Kato track bed. The height is determined by the nessceary height needed to go over the tunnel. So you have the shape cut out in foam board and the verticals. The walls are cereal packet card so it will bend, covered with stone effect card. Individual bricks and corner stones cut from Brown cereal packet card stuck on to make the arches. All pretty straight forward but very time consuming!
6:03 Its almost like a magic trick....Just like that.
Dear BMR
I was looking earlier at your previous video on your first N gauge loco and noticed you said the chassis was priced around £13 yet when I looked on websites such as ebay and Amazon they are all 50 or 60.
Basically what I am saying is are there still any websites that sell them at that price?
That was sometime ago I bought them. Most retailers have the chassis at £20-25 try Osbournes or Traintrax
Kato does a production run of a chassis. Unfortunately, profiteers buy them up in huge lots at a cheap price then wait for the shortage to occur. I saw the 11-103 chassis going for over a hundred dollars before the updated 11-109 chassis was introduced.
Thanks
Unfortunately for me, polystyrene is not a viable material, so I have to use cardboard and paper. I'm one of those people for whom touching or hearing the squeak of polystyrene causes an extremely odd feeling that makes my hairs stand on end - even thinking about the stuff makes me remember it. Whew. Weird feeling.
I am the same with fabric felt! This is foam so does not have the squeak etc
I get it with shiny white paper, like the sort you get in some books. I am getting the shivers and feeling sick just writing about it!
Nylon fabric does it to me! I'm getting the willies just thinking about it!
Why not do a snow scene and save the paint?
Lol
That black foam left unpainted could be coal.
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