WHY THE INTERNET HATES DOC MARTENS! 😡
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2022
- The Dr Martens 1460, a simple yet complicated boot. The history of the Doc Martens 1460 has so many twists and turns it could be it’s own Netflix special documentary.
Public opinion of Doc Martens has swayed back and forth over the years between love, fear and hate.
At this moment in history we are leaning heavily on hate, but why does the internet hate Dr. Marten’s?
In this vlog we attempt to find out why.
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WOW, This person wore her DM 1460 everyday for 3 years, backpacking around the world.
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Hello KRT and LYTE, May I know the name of the first female DM you introduced in the video? Thank you
Solovair boots are Made in England by the firm which built the first Dr Martens. They are built on the same lasts in the same range of styles. They are more durable than contemporary Dr Martens and have a shank, which helps people who are wearing them all day. They are a little bit more expensive, but are longer lasting and harder wearing. They offer better value for money than Dr Martens. When reviewing a product, it is useful to compare and contrast it to the competition in the marketplace. There are videos on UA-cam which directly compare these footwear brands.
Yeah, I made a video comparing the Solovair astronaut boot to a pair of Docs I was interested in at the time. I also regurgitated the same information in my video that all the other videos Docs Vs Solovair videos mention. However IMHO Solovair seems only marginally better than Dr Martens. When I did a “deep dive” into this debate I found that many Solovair customers reported the same issues as Dr Martens. When comparing the two models I was interested in, the QC and attention to detail was really about the same. My made in Asia 1460s have lasted me a decade at this point, the only reason I would buy a pair of Solovair boots is aesthetics and half sizes. I must admit Solovair customer service is on point but, I also haven’t had a bad experience with DM.
I wouldn’t say all that. They definitely feel sturdier and heavier but after a year my solovair got a split in the leather and after paying 250 bucks it ain’t worth it. I can spend 50-100 less and get the same time out of boots. I walk about four hours a day minimum. The mie docs lasted the longest and they don’t even have a shank. I had my mie docs longer than my solovairs and they still out distance the solovairs
@@Crash.7434 I’ve owned my pair of Doc Martens for 6 months now. I wear them almost daily and have really put them through the paces. They still look pretty new and are holding up great. I initially thought that if the Docs didn’t work out I’d buy Solovairs. But at this point I don’t see the need to.
@@Tain950 good for you. I wore mine for 8-12 hours a day to school and by around February they were ruined. I stick to normal combat bouts now. Don’t need something just for the name🤷♂️
Its hard to believe you have never had problems with your Doc Martens. I had a pair in the early 90’s that were built like a tank. They never cracked.. seemed to last forever and got better with age. I use to live in Southern California at that time. Now I live in NYC and I bought a pair of Martens in 2000. They lasted about 8 months and then there were cracks all over the top of the shoe. Then the sole started to crack. I threw that pair away. Fast forward to 2021 I got another pair of Docs. They lasted about 6 months and then the sole actually cracked in the middle of the shoe. I noticed it when I felt my sock getting wet one rainy day. I contacted Docs and they sent me a new pair which was nice. I’ve had this pair now for a few months but I wear them maybe once or twice a week if that. And already the top is starting to crack. I’m now in the market for a longer lasting boot. If I could only find a pair like the one I had in the 90’s.
You might like these.
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Just try the Solovair Derby Boot. You will not regret it, the quality is great and it's the real Dr. Martens from the former manufacturer in England
I tried the Solovair Astronaut boot and yes the QC was better but it wasn’t light years ahead of DM. When I listen or read some reviews of Solovair vs DM people make it seem like it’s comparing idk… Ford vs Toyota. IMHO it’s more like comparing Toyota vs Lexus. Yes Solovair are a little nicer than DM but it’s still a Toyota if that makes sense.
My biggest gripe with dms is how fast the sole seem to wear out, and it seemed to really start in the late 90s/early 2000s. I always thought it was because they switched from a lug sole to the ripple looking sole, but after i started wearing solovair, i could really tell a difference in the soles.
Also, for a purely fashion standpoint, the narrower soles and silver stitching looks a little more “mature” now that im 40 years old, but i cant blame dms for keeping thier classic yellow stitching.
Dr. Martens' durability has been nothing short of disappointing. I am thoroughly disheartened with this brand. As a dedicated wearer of Dr. Martens throughout my life, my most recent pair, a mere year old, has left me profoundly frustrated. The so-called "leather," which seems predominantly plastic, has developed cracks in four different areas, and the soles have completely separated and detached after just one year of use. While Dr. Martens were never renowned for their top-tier quality, they were known for being affordable and providing a more sneaker-like comfort compared to traditional boots. However, I now struggle to find any compelling reason to continue purchasing these boots, especially given their lack of a Goodyear welt, rendering them essentially unrepairable.
I’m curious if you guys have checked out the rose anvil channel. He cuts boots in half and explains how durable boots will be based on the materials used and how they’re put together. My concern with docs is they can’t be resoled and theres cardboard cement for the base. Solevair solves both those issues with a Goodyear welt and a leather cork midsole. That being said, any half decent leather boot will outlast a sneaker by a long shot. I love how more people are talking about quality shoes and raising the awareness of fashionable and durable footwear and I love your no jump cut style of presenting this information.
Thank you we are glad you enjoyed our video! Yes, I am familiar with Rose Anvil channel, love his interesting content, but sometimes he’s not correct. ( Not claiming I am more knowledgeable than him)One case would be his Common Projects Video there are plenty of Reddit rebuttals of that video. The other thing is that Docs can be resoled the technique is just different. This shop in the UK does it all the time and does a really good job.
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Mine are 16 years or more and still going strong. Over the years they became so comfortable. Aged well. ❤
Same here, mine are so comfy and they have been around the world and back still kicking!
Hello, Many thanks for your reply. I live in the UK, which means that the shipping costs are minimal and Solovair boots can be quickly sent to the factory for repairs. I can see that this is less of an advantage overseas. My favourite plain Derby boots are solid leather Naval deck boots, made by the Standard Screwed construction currently used by William Lennon. The last shape and specification date back to WW1. They were made until 1992. It is likely that the British Admiralty last from that era, over a century old, is still perpetuated by Solovair and Dr Martens. I have a 1980s pair of original Dr Marten Derby shoes which have the original grey soles, which are tougher than later ones. A shank is fitted, as per Solovair. They also fit my feet extremely well.
I started wearing Docs in 1991 and since then have owned 8 pairs. That said I would consider myself a pretty good candidate for someone who knows how the quality has changed the past 30 years. Up until recentlyI have only owned made in England Docs. I recently picked up a used pair of 101s (my favorite cut) made in Vietnam. Well compared to my 101s from the mid 90s the construction blows! The vintage ones have a shank and the Vietnamese pair don’t. I can feel the difference. The leather is definitely more “plastic” feeling - that could be the paint used. My newer ones and old ones are both smooth leather and the newer pair has somehow warped in the toe region which is odd because I have only had them a month and have very narrow feet. As mentioned I bought them used they were already pretty broken in. Long story short - I ordered a pair of black vintage 101s and the Vietnamese ones are going up on Poshmark. If I buy a new pair in the future I am definitely sticking with the ones made in England. Hopefully the quality of these will be parallel with the vintage Docs. This all said if you find a pair of the Asian Docs dirt cheap they still have good construction - just not nearly as good as the vintage ones.
You should watch Rose Anvil's video on the vintage docs. He did a video where he cut them in half to see what's inside. He's also done the made in England ones too.
I have been searching for a pair of vintage DM 1490s in decent shape but they are getting harder to find. I would love to compare the two and see if the legend lives up to the hype. Holding a new pair of Solovair next to a new pair of DM. I could definitely tell that the Solovair QC is better but IMHO only marginally better. I’m still up in the air with the shank debate I guess some people need them, but I can’t feel the difference unless I’m standing on a ladder for hours. When I’m not wearing my 1460s I wear pretty minimal shoes so maybe that’s why I don’t need a shank IDK. I found a boot that I wanted to compare to my DM but after wearing them for a few months I have found them to be so different it’s like comparing a Tank to a Toyota.
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I think you two nailed it. I love my docs and will continue to wear them. I am planning on trying Solovair but that doesn't mean I am abandoning my love for dr. Martens.
Thank you, I think docs are great for so many reasons. Yes there might be “better” boots out there but better is so relative. I the polarization in the world of shoes interesting. On one side you have people that believe a shoe absolutely needs a stacked heel, a metal shank etc etc. On the other end of the spectrum you have the people that believe all of these features are actually making your foot weaker… It’s very interesting.
@@KRTLyfe A shank objectively makes a boot better. No premium boot doesn't not have a shank. It's not polarising, there are no differing school of thoughts or differences of opinion. Simply a shank makes a boot far far more comfy. How can you review a boot and say you don't need a shank when evidently you haven owned and experienced a boot that has a shank to compare 😂
LMAO you got jokes! Comfort is absolutely relative to the end user. I would also argue “premium” is a relative term that could vary greatly on whom you ask. For some “premium” is any PNW boot to others BV or Ann Demeulemeester or similar would be “premium” so yeah.
Your opinion is not a fact lmao.
I love them too, but they are crappy quality compared to a lot of boots. They’re like converse, they are crappy shoes, but look good. You can spend only a little more and get a boot that’ll last exponentially longer.
IMHO the length of time footwear lasts is purely down to the individual. It depends on one's weight, how often you wear them, in what weather you wear them etc. If you were to wear any footwear every day in all weather for hours, you can expect that it will reduce the lifespan of your footwear no matter how expensive. For me personally i rotate my footwear throughout the year, in spring summer, white trainer's to Clarks original Desert boots, autumn my DMs and in wet weather Clarks goretex boots. And finally a little maintenance will keep your footwear healthy.
I agree.
I am 45 years old I got my first pair of doc martens when I was 12 I recently gave them away about 4 years ago and they were still in perfect condition and I slept in those boots some nights I wore those boots everyday for years when I was a kid
LOL right?! I just started a bit over a year ago on a tight budget, and while I don't have the basic 1460 (YET, they're on my list though!), I have the 1460s with the fur (not real 1460s) and they're lovely. Not as hot as UGGs, but the fur kicked up the warmth really nicely. And during the fall last year, I grabbed 1, then 2, then 3 pair of Doc sandals (2 quads in different colors, and then the gladiators with the huge soles though I wore them with socks through the winter - surely helped break them in) - buying off-season seems to be the way to stock up on Docs since they were half off.
I got the Combs in a cream color for daily wear and loved them (tons of compliments in these regular old shoes!), and then finally the Jadons! I was scared of the Jadons because of reviews about them 'hurting your feet', but I wore 2 pairs of socks with them and they're really, really comfortable.
You buy what you like. I like Docs except the "political statement" shoes; I don't wear political anything.
I found some interesting information while making this video. Dr. Martens is experimenting with a repair program. Unfortunately it is only available in the UK at them moment and the repaired shoes are put up for sale. Doc Martens needs to offer a repair program which allows you to have your shoes repaired and sent back to you. I personally would love to have my 1460s rebuilt and continue their story. Anyone out there with Nick’s or Whites boots, I am curious if they are gusseted all the way to the top. Please let me know I would love to try a pair!
I have Dr Martens boots and I could've used a 9.5 but since they only have full sizes I went for the 10. Now they're too loose! They can not be resoled , and no shank! Every few blocks walking I have to tie them up again! But I still like them! I bought some Captain Thursday Boots and they're amazing! You should try those! Great video guys!
I ordered a pair of Thursday boots, and they were trash, I mean talk about a waste of raw materials. So if you watch my Thursday review there are a few major imperfections on the boots I received that I didn’t even get a chance to go into for sake of time in my review. The upper was poorly stitched there was a big blemish on the shaft of the boot and something else I can’t remember at this moment.
They looked good but that was really about it. The shank argument I guess some people need it and some don’t. The only time I notice a shank or lack there of, is if I’m standing on a ladder for a few hours.
DM is far from perfect, but Thursday is in the same boat if not worse IMHO.
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I heared so often about the quality issues of the DMs nowadays, compairing to the Made in England DMs of the 90s and before. I discovered the Solovairs aß an alternative and the quality is great. But: i think the most people don't pay enough attention to direct and indirect shoecare. Wearing leather shoes in Rotation, with one day to dry, using wooden shoe trees and a quality grease for the leather all 2 or 3 month. These are important things for the lifetime of a shoe, doesn't matter of the quality.
I agree, shoe care is important. When I was doing my research for these videos I found the same complaints with the corrected leather for both brands Solovair and Doc Martens.
My 1460s are approximately 9-10 years old, if and when they die I will try a pair of Solovair next. I wouldn’t mind another pair of DM but I’m curious if the Solovair will last me 20 years since my DOCs are pushing a decade.
I have a pair of Black greasy 8 eye Solovair Derby boots and these are the most comfortable pair of footwear I have ever worn. Had them for a few years and they've lived through a few harsh winters in upstate NY and wore them regularly. They had a tough life. Until now they still look relatively new. Especially after you treat them with a coat of Dubbin and Wonder Balsam. I was told not to use mink oil because it causes the soles of Doc Martens to erode or decay
I use to have 3 Doc Martens (I use to haver more than that actually) but I sold them and bought Solovair boots instead. The Doc Martens simply hurt my feet too much and even made my bunions worse. However, with solovair boots I have not had to break them in and I can even put insoles in them and walk just fine! i've worn mine multiple times and have not had my feet hurt.
Years ago I had the oxford shoe. I wanted to love them so bad but they caused great pain. I still want to give the brand another chance but it's been years and I'm old and weary with foot trouble 😂😩 so I'll probably go for the Solovair
Are these the nappa or smooth leather? Can't tell if the eyelets are silver or just worn.
That is a great question, the markings are so worn they are no longer legible. I don’t think they are smooth leather tho. Other than the toe cap getting soft on one foot and normal heal wear these boots are still going strong and super comfy.
What black 1460s are you wearing?Smooth?I wore mine for 200 days and not broke in.8 hrs a day
They might have been smooth or greasy honesty they are so old and the markings on the tongue are faded away for the most part.
Ok thanks I did have a 1460 black greasy around 1995.Not hard to wear at all.Now everything is Smooth.I would love cherry 1460 nappa
I have a pair of Doc martens, I also have a pair of Solovairs and Grinders boots. I love all three of them and I use them for different things. I will say that Solovairs were the HARDEST to breaking out of the three and Grinders game in a close second. I know it might be biased but I don’t think I’ll ever love another I pair of boots better then my Doc Martens. And I’m not saying I don’t love my other boots; they all have a special place in my heart, it’s just that my Docs take up more room.
I still love my 1460s, they are my favorite for normal daily activities for sure!
I wear lots of DM’s, some that I’ve had since the 90’s, I think my next pair will be Solovair’s but I’m a little worried about sizing.
doc martens go great with your style. Sometimes style trends turn into an echo chamber you just gotta ignore. I'm a fan of some of the really well made boots but doc martens just have a style you can't get elsewhere. Keep on rocking them 🤘
Well said! I agree, DOCs are a great everyday usage boot! Not to heavy duty and not to light, they are the perfect boot for majority of people IMHO.
Nice video. I think why i don't like them is because a lot of their leathers are synthetic, I like my boots to have good leather.
It depends. I was a soldier. So I am able to distinguish a combat boot from something that has pretensions to being a combat boot.
But I do like Dr. Martens shoes. Specifically, the 8053 and the Reeder collaboration shoe.
Great video, I have been wearing docs for 5 years, i have 10 different pairs now as they kind of become an addiction. Even my first pair of 101 ankle boots that have many miles on them, still look brand new because i keep them polished and conditioned.
I will never understand why people hate them so much, to each their own. I have tried many different “quality” brands but Docs just feel like home on my feet.
I agree, I still believe the pros out weight the cons with Docs. My pair is still going strong and comfortable as ever!
Don’t hate me, but I imagine they still look brand new cuz you have 10 pairs of boots in rotation 🤣. That’s like what? Six months of wear each at most (I’m assuming you have other shoes too)
@@daniellogansa8101 no sir, i do rotate between pairs every day but they definitely get their wear. I work in a motorcycle shop and i am brutal on them. I wear docs literally every day, i ride a motorcycle, I even have a pair for the gym and other sporty activities. The only non docs i have a pair of nikes that have been sitting in my closet for years.
The library voices are hilarious 😂😂😂
Hey, gotta adapt! 💯
I would say the two biggest reasons are that people buy the cheap Asian ones instead of the Made in England ones and because they’re popular. They’re the Nickelback of boots. I’ve had a pair of the Made In England 1460’s for over a year now and they’re straight up the best, most comfortable boots I’ve ever owned. Haters gonna hate. Chuck Taylors are just canvas and cardboard but people love ‘em for some reason.
The Nickelback of boots ! 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 oh that hurt, can they at least be the insane clown posse of boots!?!? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 or how bout Slipknot???
@@KRTLyfe Nickelback is actually an awesome band and DM’s are awesome boots. That was the analogy. People tend to hate on what other people hate without giving it a second thought.
Man I was gonna say there is only one Nickelback song I like. It’s called let me be myself… then I realized it’s by 3 doors down! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
But yeah I thought you were dissing them with the Nickelback analogy lol! Thanks 🙏🏾
@@KRTLyfe don't bring slipknot into this! lol
I have my dr M since when i was 15 year old im 37 and still put them on🤙🏼
Wow that is pretty awesome! 🙌🏾
Also tbf, nicks have a “feminine” heel because that heel was designed for loggers so they dont slide out of thier climbing spikes when theyre 75 feet up a tree.
Kind of like how cowboy boots have a strong heel to keep them from sliding out of the stirrups.
I just miss the shank I think it would upgrade the boot alot. I didnt knew about that when I bought my docs
I feel you, the various approaches to making boots is interesting. From minimalist to Maximus and everything in between. The only conclusion I’ve reached is that people need to find what works for them. There is no one size fits all especially with shoes and even more so with boots!
I actually love that docs dont have a shank. I have flat feet and every single boot ive tried with a steel shank absolutely kills my feet. Docs have always given me comfort even being on my feet all day.
I find it strange that the Thursday boots are always recommended as a Docs alternative, the Thursday boots look like a dress boot to me. They're thinner and have the pointy toe they come off as something you'd wear with a suit rather than a pair of Dickies.
I tried the Thursday Explorer boot. It looks great on social media in person it is basically slightly better than something you can find at Walmart. The quality control was pretty poor and the overall design of the shoe looked great but lacked the details I needed. Thursday is a fashion shoe at best.
honestly, i like the chunky look of the docs, and the "alternatives" other than solovair are not even similar in style.
I don't know i think it really depends on what Style of Shoe you are used to. I have a pair of RW Beckman and a pair of Dr Marten Pascals and i absolutely can not wear the DMs for longer periods of time, because for me the Sole is just to soft.
I agree, every shoe doesn’t work for every foot.
I just feel like this was a far more honest video about these boots, every other review video I have seen about Dr martens, tend to take examples they have seen on the internet that they have not experienced themselves, and recycle those same complaints in each others' video to push a brand that they have actually tried. it seems like a bandwagon thing to hate dr martens. We will see, I ordered the unisex Cairo chukka boots of the dr martens official site, I had to get them in my normal size, so we will see how large they run, but I have high hopes for these boots. they are a sort of boot/sneaker hybrid that I am looking forward to wearing everyday casually, and at work. there aren't many reviews of the Cairo canvas chukka boots that I have been able to find, anyone who has them, let me know what you think. I am new to this boot game...... thanks for the great video!!!! subscribed
Thank you, there are so many boots on the market these days. Some are horrible (TBC) but DOCs do not deserve all the negative hype they are getting these days.
That was great to watch. I enjoyed your honest opinions, very down to earth. 👍
I have both docs and solovair and they are very similar.
I do a lot of walking in mine and so far the solovair soles seem to be lasting the longest, compared to the docs soles.
Just my experience but both similar boots.
Thank you. 👍
Thank you I’m glad that you enjoyed the video! I’m leaning heavily toward Solovair for two reasons. Half sizes, and you can buy replacement soles! I really would love to resole my 1460s. I even considered buying the Solovair sole and putting that on the bottom of my DOCs lol.
Nice to hear that someone else thinks Iron Rangers are uncomfortable. Been trying to break mine in for four years now.
Wow, yeah IMHO I think herd mentality has created some warped beliefs in the boot enthusiasts community like “no shank bad, Veg tanned good”. When in reality all of these features are relative to the end user.
I really like the look of the IR but a boot shouldn’t take months or years to break in. I did such a deep dive into this boot world and I’ve found so many copy paste one size fits all commentary. A boot should be what the wearer needs it to be, not the other way around. At least that’s my thoughts and you can’t scroll past comfort lol.
Doc Martens look really cool. I’ve always wanted to own a pair .
If you get a chance to try them you might like them.
I think the generally negative sentiment comes from crossed expectations. If you ask a "boot guy" what they think of Docs, they'll rightfully call them bad boots because the compromises they make in favor of cheaper manufacturing costs and out the box comfort are the exact kind of compromises boot guys _don't_ want in a boot. But Docs aren't made for boot guys, they're made for regular people. Thin corrected leather is pliable, lightweight, takes little to break in and is cheaper than quality full grain leather. Sneaker like cushioned soles further add to the comfort while making them cheaper to make. Bonded welts make them practically waterproof and, again, cheaper. These are all completely understandable compromises if you want cheap shoes to be comfortable standing in all day that look like boots. The one major remaining objection is the price. Docs are pretty expensive for street fashion boots.
Heritage boots and street fashion boots are two entirely different kind of shoes, even if they both just look like boots. The former has an emphasis on quality materials and craftsmanship "the way it used to be done", and the latter is "how can I make that, but cheaper and more comfortable" and definitely tends to be more comfortable straight out the box. They shouldn't really be compared in the first place.
Yall are the only voice of reason on the internet lol. People who have legitimate problems with the quality of Asia-built docs are valid to be upset but it's definitely not the norm, and you make a great point about the counterfeits contributing to the confusion. I accidentally got secondhand counterfeits myself!
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My “made in Vietnam” 1460 smooth got soaked/leaked 3 days after purchase, the toes were damp/soaking, bought them last March 14th and returned by March 18th. They’re not counterfeits, I bought them in Schuh which is one of the biggest UK shoe retailers, and yep this was what happened.
I ve been eyeing these but I found for me blundstones are best shoe for me
I could definitely understand the argument for Blundstones easy on easy off and durable.
How you had so little wear on your Docs confused me. Then I realised how many pairs of these alone you had.
My only gripe (other than the pain of breaking in 1460s) is their wear pattern on the soles which become slippery, and treacherous on wet surfaces. I have been wearing them for over 40 years and they fail now much more quickly. 1460s, Barnies, Chukkas and shoes I've tried the lot. Solovair are like they used to be and beat any pairs of Docs that I've had since the millennium.
I love the look of doc martens but I have switched to solovair because they just wear out so fast and the comfort declines so rapidly after a certain time. I wore my first pair for about 4 years but exclusively in winter and they are gone, the sole has practically no profile anymore, the sole split from the welt, the plastic layer on the leather is disintegrating and the heel is a absolute mess.
Nevertheless I bought a second pair and they just seemed even worse in quality I wore them one or two winters and then switched to solovair.
I’m honestly a bit surprised that yours are still in so good shape because the soles of my newer pair have a very similar amount of wear to yours in just one year of effective wear.
Honestly, I’m afraid when this pair of DOCs finally fail, if I get another pair of 1460s they won’t be as good as these. When I got these I initially wore them a few times a month. After I wore them on our trip to NY back in the day they gradually became my most worn shoes.
For the last few years I have been wearing them 3-4 times a week year round. They are my default go to the office shoe. I was considered a essential worker so that also includes the Covid years. Didn’t miss a day at work and wore my DOCs majority of those days.
Yeah you probably have a pair of them that is of better quality as today’s ones because even the upper looks better than mine. I would probably hold onto them and get them resoled. But as far as I know there is only one cobbler that gets the original doc soles to resole docs. He has a small UA-cam channel called key cobbler and you can send him yours. Other than that you could probably get solovair soles and let another cobbler put them on.
I have a pair of Made in Englands and I love them. Totally durable and look and feel great.
Awesome, mine are the regular versions and my experience has been the same. No complaints and very comfortable after breaking them in.
I have a pair of White’s and Nick’s and they do kinda look feminine at a glance lol. They’re way more durable though and you can really see the difference in quality compared to Dr Martens. Dr Martens are much better for casual street wear if you live in a city or suburbia
I absolutely agree, thanks for your observations and commenting.
Ive had my dr martens £209 ox bloods for 4 months and the leathers failed n got holes in and the soles wore down so fast there boots have gone crap there going back to the store for a refund
All my life I heard that Martens are best. When I got a better job I bought boots that cost me 1/3 of my monthy pay. But fuck it right? I thought I was buying boots for years... After two years Those wear out. I took good care of them but no. Classic 1460s greasy I had to throw them out.
Solovairs? God damn it. 1000% better quality.
They are not as bad as people say. They are just overpriced, especially if you consider that you can get Solovair's at the same price in the UK. I got my crazy horse 1460's during a sale for over 40% less than retail and at that price you cannot really complain. Before I used to have Thursday Boots Captian Stormking's that literally fell apart (stitching and the undersole) after less than 2 years of wear. The 1460's are holding up much better and I am confident that they are going to last longer than my $200 Thursday Boots.
Thursday boots are pretty bad. I ordered a pair and they were also horrible. I don’t know why so many social media influencers recommend them.
I totally agree! I have researched so much looking for good boots and a good price range and its been difficult. I live here in Portland, Oregon and finally just walked down to the Doc Martens store to look and try on shoes. I found the Wyoming pair of short boots for $110 and they are really comfortable. I own nothing but docs pretty much cause a lot of shoes hurt my feet after a while. I have flat feet with some kind of bone spur or something and other shoes can really trigger it and its extremely painful. I never have that issue with docs. I own so many kinds of docs and will stick with those. I don't have to buy shoes often. I was disappointed with their sandals I bought though. I got a lot of dirt on my feet and under my feet while wearing them and they were not comfortable. I think I might just sell them. But love the video and I totally agree.
I have 4 pairs of DM (101, 1460 and 1461). I have 0 issues with them, always wear them in the store and just walk on. After that I decided to give Solovair a try and bought a pair of gorgeous o blood 8 eye derby boots. Can’t wear them at all as they insanely squeeze the rise of my foot so it becomes a torture. The same problem persists with Made in England (analogue of them). Now I have an expensive souvenir.
Слава Україні, пані Катерино!
If your boots last you more than 5 years, it’s money well spent. Solovair or docs? I’ll pick docs every time. The name is just so much cooler. It all comes down to styling and brand.
Smokin’ review! Covered all. Nuff said.
Thank you!
In short - the newer offshore made ones suck. The old British ones are great. Get those second hand and you'll be good for a decade. I have like four pairs and they're all fantastic - comfortable and look great - despite being worn a bunch by their previous owners already.
Great deals at Nordstrom Rack. Bought my daughter a pair of Jadons for $150.
Great information, thank you for sharing!
I live in England and own black 1460s made in Asia. Had them about 3 years and the are as good as the ones I've owned in the past. I wanted some oxblood ones and decided to purchase solovair ones. I think what swayed me towards solovair was they are made in the original factory on the original machinery. £10 more than a made in asia doc.
By the look of the silhouette yours made in uk
No mine are definitely the “cheap” made in Asia variant. I bought them new from Journeys for about $150 ish dollars.
For me, it's the sole. It's like a flood boot.
love my 1 month old docs
You got a lot of years left in yours! 🙌🏾
Docs are great and wear well and last forever, IF you can get the MADE IN ENGLAND ones. If you get the Chinese ones? Those are Doc in name only. My Wife has 3 pair of Docs that I got her in the 1990's and her newest pair are Made in ENGLAND from 2015 and are classic 1490 Oxbloods. People who do 't like Docs either have wide feet or flat feet or shit taste in boots. Unless you try rock climbing in them they last forever, only reason she has 3 is she wanted Black and Oxblood and then years later I got her the 1490's since her older pairs from the early 90's are 1460 style.
Red 1460 Doc Martens in 1970s UK for £14.99 a pair were far superior to the low quality Red Doc Martens 1460 for £160+ they have today
Dime store knockoff of Loake, which is a knockoff of Trickers, which is a knockoff of Crockett and Jones. I only wear veg tan leather boots. Tanned with natural ingredients, no toxic chemicals, buttery soft out of the box. Any company that doesn't off at least 4 widths isn't a serious footwear producer, Docs don't even offer half sizes. Kmart sneaker quality leather coated in plastic. 🤣
I have many leather-bound books. And my apartment smells of rich mahogany! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@KRTLyfe La bella vita. Semplicita e l'ultima sofisticazion.
how do they cost pennies on the dollar?
After a few thousand wears.
Just got me a pair of black Joyo boots with the zipper!
my issue is that i would like to buy another pair... i have 3 already... :)
Doc Martens are the best boots 🥾 ever 🇬🇧so cool and iconic never aged
The first pair of 1461 i had was a hell of a pain before i break them in. But after that they was the best pair of shoes im ever wear. The last 1461 i bought was just fine from the first time i had them on. Yeah Docs maybe expensive to buy but they will last for years. Buy a pair of adidas and they wont even last a season and they are almost as expensive as the Docs..
We agree, my same DOC are still going strong. I have seen people say they wear their docs out in a few months. I just don’t see how but maybe there are other biomechanics involved.
@@KRTLyfe I live in sweden and i wear my docs in snow and rain and they are fine for years. I bought my most recent pair in 2020 they are still is in use..
I'm sold on solovia boots
i think Docs wanted to look like combat boots but they have halfassed sole and their standard version is too short to look like a combat boot, and since real classic combat boots are cheaper and chunkier and taller, and have more performance compared to Docs in term of their sole
The leather cracks within a couple weeks.
Not if you treat it to soften it.
I wear mine 9hrs a day weekdays for 2 years now. Definitely my go to shoe. Dr martens is all-round shoes & boots. If someone annoys you, you just have to rip their foot. Oh sorry haaahahahha
LOL, yeah I wear mine a lot as well. So much so that mine are rapidly approaching end of life. The heals are just about worn through and the toe cap on the right shoe is getting annoyingly flimsy. They are still wearable tho and I intend to wear them until they fail!
@@KRTLyfe good news is you can replace them without breaking the bank, and get another 7-10 years out of them
Wow my vegan cherry are 3 years old and look ruff
As an aging 58 year old punk rocker that still has his old steel toe oxbloods , im not taking that title sitting down , someones getting smashed for that 😂.
Once you learn about boots like Red wings, Nicks, Whites, or other heritage style boots docs look like and feel cheap ..real boots you can resole and leather quality is from another world
I mentioned all of the above in my vlog. I guess you didn’t get to that section. Definitely watch again if you are interested in my personal opinions on the brands you mentioned! Thanks for watching commenting and subscribing!
You can resole Docs, its just a lot more difficult due to their construction unlike a goodyear welted boots. Many channels have shown resoling docs with barely any issue.
Manz dipped his toes in the water lol brother stand in the water
Lmao I did stand in the water but I’m not going past the gusset
Look up clearwheather wampa
Thanks for the recommendation! I really like the design a tad too trendy for me tho. I really want to see these in person. I am curious how they designed the gusset on the tongue and what’s going on underneath!
All I can say is....they ar'nt popular cause they suck.....im a gen x'r and picking up a pair tomorrow. Make yourself happy first.
They are nice astetically but glued on soles no thanks iron rangers will out last Goodyear welt
( goodwelt)
This person wore her DM 1460 everyday for 3 years, backpacking around the world.
unglamorousnomads.com/en/posts/best-travel-shoes-3-years-with-dr-martens/
The soles are actually melted together with fire, the probability of them coming apart is very slim for 99 percent of the population.
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. i can only imagine the number of dislikes 😮
at the price they are at and the quality they offer, there's no value on these boots. they'll last just a year or so, before being useless. they're a toy rather than an actual shoe. they used to last for so much longer! they also look awful, like theyre made of plastic and feel wobbly and unstable. I used to be a fan, nowadays theyre throwaway shoes at almost $200. an Iron ranger is $330 and will last you 20 years. that's value. And they might not be girly, but lets admit it: women are the fan base of DM and their biggest users by far. I got tired of replacing bad quality boots every year or 2. Also they're everywhere, I get tired of seeing DM all over, they've lost their place as a stylish piece and their perceived coolness. So... bye bye DMs! now I buy quality shoes that will last and be made with good materials and are not a fashionable yet discardable item
DM 1460 is definitely a causal/light duty work boot. As I stated in the video mine are going on 9 years roughly probably more. No issues what so ever. I spent a lot of time in them at remote transmitter sites and rack rooms etc, these boots are my go to work boots and have never let me down. They are also nice enough to go from work to play with a simple dust off!
If they are a toy they are Tonka tuff lmao!
Iron rangers are cool if you find them comfortable( I didn’t, they are the absolutely most uncomfortable shoes I’ve ever put on my feet) but they do look good. I find them very limiting aesthetically tho.. from a style perspective. The iron ranger might last you 20 years but it’s takes 10 years to break them in! Lmao I tried twice and threw in the towel!
If women like the shoe that’s probably a good thing, I would think LOL.
After 10ish years my 1460’s are coming close to wearing out. It’s a shame Doc doesn’t resole them because my upper still has plenty of life left in it! Still looking at other options but none of the other shoes I’ve mentioned are as versatile as the DM 1460.
I think it’s interesting you only get a year or two out of your DM. The only shoe I’ve owned that fails that quickly is the Vans authentic in white specifically. Other than the vans my two high rotation shoes both last me well into the 5 -10 year range.
CP Achilles low, DM 1460.
Thanks for your comment and perspective we sincerely appreciate it!
I don’t see your point with the “women are the fan base of DM”. Why is that a bad thing? Let people wear whatever they want.
@@bixby451 because ever since DM became obsessed with women's market, the long-lasting boots DM used to be, became a fashion item and the quality became horrendous! all they care about nowadays is putting hearts and hello kitty on their awful quality boots. don't turn this into a gender discussion. I let ppl wear whatever they want, all I'm saying is that the quality is terrible, the price is not worth it, and the women's market is their primary target. sorry if this fact offended you, and that I dislike being charged top dollars for a plastic shoe with girly prints. but hey! let people think whatever they want! Right? or is this thought only valid for shoes?
Never heard, that the Internet hates Doc Martens, what an utter nonsense.
Yeah, its a thing there are many boot reviews slamming Docs. I don’t get it but hey to each their own.
“What an utter nonsense” sorry if you’re not a native English speaker but that was funny 😂
want to wear them but im afriad to be called a nazi
I seriously doubt that will happen but you know your environment better than I.
Get brown ones!
@@ashcarrier6606 brown isnt as cool :>
@Randy Layhey lee OH yeah!? Well neither am I!
I bought a pair of DM 8053s at a DM retail store in a mall with restaurants that charge $7.50 for a bowl of chicken noodle soup!
I got the gaucho brown because I think brown works better with jeans and such.
Who wears Doc Martins in summer!? Weird.
Dr martins suck
Get real boots and stop wearing these glorified sneakers! There are Solovairs, so there is no excuse to buy martens...
Unless you like them. Solovair don't look as good.
Been kicking myself for not caring for my docs I got when I was a kid in the 90s, bought a pair in the post 2010's...they are a bit shit tbh. Buying a pair of solovairs at some point in the nex week, QA just aint there with docs mores the pity.
From all the research I did and personal experience. It seems, most of the issues are with corrected leather versions of the Docs and Solovair models. Maybe when my 1460s finally die I will get another pair to compare.
@@KRTLyfe Thats the kicker, don't know what you got till you give it 10-20 years. Don't know what its like in the US, but in the UK and the environment I work in - tends to be a bit right leaning, old fashioned in outlook- popping out in a pair of docs causes a ruckus I've always enjoyed. Think I'll miss the staking my identity more than anything. Could just paint the stitching yellow I spose...just not the same.
because the internet cannot afford them?
**laughs in my 1460 pascal**
LMAO!
The type of couple you don't want to see on the other end of the dinner table. Yes, you may be correct with your points about the boots, but your vibe is giving self righteous.
100 percent agreed! I would never eat with these people they are the worst of the worst!
@@KRTLyfe See, that passive-aggressive vibe you guys give is just so unpleasant.
You know, when you guys said "If you guys had your own personal issues with docs, comment." "yeah!" @ 26:55. The vibe you gave of was like "try me, bitch" instead of it being, "yeah, I want to hear some constructive criticism and your personal opinon, so I can hear both sides."
Do you, as a couple, do Brazilian Jiu-JItsu or MMA together?
No, we only do king fu fighting! Kicks fast as lightning! It’s a little bit frightening however, we do it with expert timing!
Ohhhhhhh hoooooooo oooooooooo!
Honestly tho, I’m agreeing with you we are horrible people and no one would find it pleasant eating dinner with us! 😭
@@KRTLyfe All right, as a fellow Black man and a "brother" you need to take a chill pill. You're only Black when it's convenient for you to be Black. I, on the other hand, am proud and I live being Black every single day with dignity until the day I die.
I love boots and I love Docs and Solovair. Kindly take my comments as a learning. I advise you to stop being immature, you guys have a kid together.
I only love their platform boots . The only 2 things I hate about them is the “breaking in”. I just had to buy a soft inner sole and put in them. Because yes they do hurt especially if you have them on all day.
I just wear an inner sole with a longer sock with my Jadons