Why All The HATE on The NEW Anti-Venom Suit in Marvel's Spider-Man 2?

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  • Why All The HATE on The NEW Anti-Venom Suit in Marvel's Spider-Man 2?
    Ever since Marvel's Spider-Man 2 released and shown us new suits for Peter and Miles known as Anti-Venom suit for Peter and Evolved Suit for Miles, they've been getting a ton of hate, mostly for the Evolved Suit however the Anti-Venom suit has its fair share of hate for the design and story implications.
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  • @iVoltexYT
    @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +74

    Do you like the Anti-Venom suit or do you hate it? P.S Thank you for all the love on the channel, we're getting very close to 100,000 subscribers, so if you see this subscribe! It would mean the world to get there!

    • @MrFrostyBitesAndraide
      @MrFrostyBitesAndraide 10 місяців тому +5

      ngl its pretty good

    • @The_MontageZ
      @The_MontageZ 10 місяців тому

      I my self don't like it because it desing thats all. For the story its fine, but when im free roaming i really never use it.

    • @jinny00e
      @jinny00e 10 місяців тому +8

      I love it! idk why people hate it.

    • @SHMidlerPlays
      @SHMidlerPlays 10 місяців тому +2

      I love it!

    • @fareedtoutio0512
      @fareedtoutio0512 10 місяців тому +4

      I love the Anti-Symbiote suit better than that Evil Black Symbiote suit. There I said it.

  • @goku90extreme18
    @goku90extreme18 10 місяців тому +357

    To be honest, as a Game Developer, the Anti-Venom is genius! Not only it visually shows Peter's growth during the game, but also let the player use the Symbionte Abilities without hurting the story. Good job, Insomniac!

    • @spartan9963
      @spartan9963 10 місяців тому +12

      Yeah good job making Anti-venom lose to venom and making Miles defeat Venom twice with only is default power, he even defeats Peter with the Black suit. lol A good example of Gary sue.

    • @robloxuploder1
      @robloxuploder1 10 місяців тому +44

      @@spartan9963 bro what? Miles had the help of the bell to defeat symbiote peter, and this is right after kraven was using the bell to hurt him too. and it took both spider-men to defeat venom. it was still the anti-venom that took down venom once and for all, and lets not forget, did major damage to venom before miles fought him.

    • @CAPEDCRUSADER3900
      @CAPEDCRUSADER3900 10 місяців тому +19

      @@robloxuploder1 They can't just look at it and think that this is a version of Venom that's really powerful and needed two Spider-Men to stop him rather they have to think they nerfed Peter instead. I honestly think it's cooler that Venom was so powerful he needed two Spider-Men to stop him but whatever.
      Also Peter is stronger now than he was before the Symbiote and Anti-Venom he even tells MJ in the game that "It's like i have all of the power but the voices are gone", and even with that power boost he needed Miles's help not because he's weak but because this version of Venom is just really insanely powerful, he's probably the most powerful Venom outside of comics.

    • @IzBirch
      @IzBirch 10 місяців тому +1

      I think the problem is the fact it's supposed to be able to beat venom and can't.

    • @NFYT
      @NFYT 9 місяців тому +3

      @@CAPEDCRUSADER3900 yeah venom is just cracked i think they made him actually way too strong, the only thing is that he needed the meteoryte fragment to get all that power but other than that he was WAY too strong, and could fly too btw, and also was able to do other symbiotes like scream FROM THE GET GO, like wHaT? It was crazy

  • @GT_Mr.C
    @GT_Mr.C 10 місяців тому +757

    the cu- i mean anti venom suit is clean ain’t no way people are hating on it

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +80

      Bruhhh lmao

    • @RedhoodBeyond
      @RedhoodBeyond 10 місяців тому +4

      😂

    • @arkhoss08
      @arkhoss08 10 місяців тому +38

      the eyes really put me off to be honest

    • @kaiarataki
      @kaiarataki 10 місяців тому +25

      ​@arkhos7362 Yeah, like they could've used the advanced suit 2.0 eyes, but they've grown on me

    • @kiyoshi3313
      @kiyoshi3313 10 місяців тому +15

      I'm hating on it. It doesn't look good. 💀

  • @xr9790
    @xr9790 10 місяців тому +226

    I love antivenom as a symbiote and the Reddit thing is what I’ve been saying the whole time. It’s fitting that Pete would get the healing anti symbiote symbiote suit, and it’s a twist on the black suit arc I really love. Personally I hope this stays as the “Thing” for Pete for the insomniac universe

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +11

      Would be cool!

    • @fall-neckthetallneck2977
      @fall-neckthetallneck2977 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm kind of suspecting Insomniac to do dlc's like they did in the first game. In the first two they can do chameleon and Dare Devil while Peter takes his break. Then Pete comes back for the third carnage dlc chapter with the anti-venom suit.

    • @CAPEDCRUSADER3900
      @CAPEDCRUSADER3900 10 місяців тому +6

      If it's like the comics the Anti-Venom is bonded to Peter's white blood cells so he'll always have the power of the Symbiote.

    • @kaison12205
      @kaison12205 10 місяців тому +1

      @@CAPEDCRUSADER3900in those comics when Eddie overused the symbiote it went away

    • @gnb_2476
      @gnb_2476 10 місяців тому +1

      Though for me, the story is not at the level of the first, the way the Anti-Venom was brought into the narrative is genius.

  • @zackking4742
    @zackking4742 10 місяців тому +237

    I like the suit. I just don't like having Anti-Venom abilities with every suit, especially regular Venom suits

    • @macrochipped
      @macrochipped 10 місяців тому +13

      Yeah they should be optional

    • @edgarsalazar8041
      @edgarsalazar8041 10 місяців тому +31

      They should do color swap ⚫️ and ⚪️

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +21

      Same here, hopefully they change it.

    • @hulyaterzi8560
      @hulyaterzi8560 10 місяців тому +6

      you can just change the symbiote abilities to the spider-arms

    • @indominusblade3
      @indominusblade3 10 місяців тому +9

      @@hulyaterzi8560why would u do that when the symbiote abilities are clearly stronger and look cooler

  • @Phelllix_karral
    @Phelllix_karral 10 місяців тому +266

    I really like this suit, the only thing I dont like is the fact that the symbiote abilities look white with the black suit

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +37

      Same here!

    • @itzjustboris7395
      @itzjustboris7395 10 місяців тому +21

      Hopefully they’ll fix that in post at some point considering that his webs are still black when he uses the black suits, why should his tentacles by white when he’s using black ones to swing? I think it’s a glitch or an oversight rather than an intentional feature, my main issue with the suit is that he goes back to using his web shooters to swing when he could use the white tendrils to do it, it just doesn’t look at cool as swinging with the black suit

    • @nocapp_
      @nocapp_ 10 місяців тому

      @@itzjustboris7395facts and I hope they also change the color of the web line ability to black when you use the black suits as well because they remain white

    • @itzjustboris7395
      @itzjustboris7395 10 місяців тому +1

      @@nocapp_ I dunno about that, the Web line ability is a gadget idk if it being black would make sense it would look cool though

    • @JeromeProductions
      @JeromeProductions 10 місяців тому

      Facts

  • @clementfermn6711
    @clementfermn6711 10 місяців тому +6

    i think people need to get their eyes checked if they HATE this suit.

  • @Natezilla_2
    @Natezilla_2 10 місяців тому +295

    My only nitpick with this suit is I wish it had orange eyes like the comics
    Other than that, it's a pretty clean design

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +47

      Maybe it might evolve in the future! I could see it!

    • @texel76
      @texel76 10 місяців тому +56

      That could have been the surge mode design. What a shame.

    • @2495781
      @2495781 10 місяців тому +33

      There is always SM3 plus Agent Anti-Venom lacked the orange eyes. Likely cause they were going for a more suit look compared to Eddie who is used to the more monster like look or Venom. So there is that. But for all we know we could get an Anti-Venom skin based on Eddie Brock's version. If they do, I hope the mouth moves. That was my only complaint with Ghost Spider his mouth didn't move when he spoke.

    • @disrespect9376
      @disrespect9376 10 місяців тому +15

      I think it would’ve looked better without the black underarms but instead having a black face with orange eyes like the comic anti venom

    • @khanghua966
      @khanghua966 10 місяців тому +5

      I think u could say the same thing to agent anti venom as well bruh
      The suit is fine in my eyes

  • @AquilusDesign
    @AquilusDesign 10 місяців тому +74

    I like this suit, it's sleek and the lenses reminds me of Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man artworks

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +5

      Yep, those lens are nice.

    • @akapeegly6463
      @akapeegly6463 10 місяців тому +3

      I honestly thought we would get that suit at the end of the game, like a the red and blue one. The lenses are too nice to just be available on this one suit

    • @ClaytonBloom
      @ClaytonBloom 10 місяців тому +1

      How we haven’t gotten that suit yet is a crime

    • @shade_iguess
      @shade_iguess 10 місяців тому +1

      @@iVoltexYTpersonally, i think the eyes look better with the surprised eyes for the character mode, it just gives more of a vibe for me

  • @jeffsavilleproductions
    @jeffsavilleproductions 10 місяців тому +36

    In an interview with Brian the creative director he said the main reason they gave Peter the Anti-Venom suit was to make sure fans wouldn’t be upset they lost the symbiote powers after Peter got the Symbiote off and it went back to Harry

  • @faded-viper3516
    @faded-viper3516 10 місяців тому +157

    I mean there are some small things I wish was different on the suit but I would give it a solid 8/10. I was so happy to see Peter with the anti- venom suit, and I’m so curious to see if it’s going to be a mean stay in the future of these games.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +18

      100 percent. It's a nice suit

    • @2495781
      @2495781 10 місяців тому +13

      I mean, bear in mind that Anti-Venom can take any form its host wants. So, by SM3, they could rework it to be better. Plus, we could get an Agent Anti-Venom/Venom Skin we can wear over it.

    • @faded-viper3516
      @faded-viper3516 10 місяців тому +4

      @@2495781 yeah, I could see them doing an anti-agent venom maybe that’s what Harry could turn into to save his life in the next game

    • @2495781
      @2495781 10 місяців тому +4

      @faded-viper3516 I more meant it as a costume for Peter, but yeah, they could have Anti-Venom spawn a new Anti-Symbiote for Harry or Peter finds a way to replicate it by SM3, and Norman is just to stubborn to let Peter give it to Harry afraid it will be Venom all over again until the end with the 3 or maybe 4 Spiders teaming up against Norman, Otto, and whoever else they have. I say four on the off chance Cindy Moon joins them as Silk. Since she was teased at the end and all.

    • @WeAllNeedH2O
      @WeAllNeedH2O 10 місяців тому +2

      10/10 tbh it surprised me (anti venom suit) so like uh..

  • @chaelmoll7160
    @chaelmoll7160 10 місяців тому +38

    I've always loved the idea of Peter reuniting with the symbiote and rehabilitating it to be better so I'm perfectly fine with Pete keeping anti venom for the rest of the series

  • @YTCyan
    @YTCyan 10 місяців тому +27

    Pretty much all of Peter’s canon suits designed by Insomniac mean something in the story, discounting the Velocity Suit as that was a Comic Tie In suit. The Advanced Suit was Peter accepting help from Otto to design a better suit, and it’s Peter’s way of representing someone like a father figure for him, in fact, the reason why Peter wears the suit in the first game’s DLC and Miles Morales is because it reminds him of the better side of Otto even though he has the access to the Anti-Ock suit. The Anti-Ock suit is a representation of Peter’s mindset that he wants to help Otto, that he still believes he can be saved, even though he can’t be, it’s a representation of Peter’s idea of rehabilitation. The change back to Advanced also represents that Peter has failed to rehabilitate Otto, even if he still believes in the best of him, hence the Advanced suit. The Symbiote suit is the worst of Peter, bringing out everything that he’s gone through, his deepest thoughts, whereas the Anti-Venom suit is a physical representation of the fact that Peter’s actions with the Symbiote will forever stay with him, but it’s also a sign that people can truly redeem themselves, mainly Martin Li, it’s his redemption. They all mean something.

  • @DMFroomer
    @DMFroomer 10 місяців тому +64

    Personally, I really like the suit. Maybe has a bit too much segmentation in the black panels, specifically on the legs, but really good other than that. I love the eye shape too, even if they probably should look more organic.
    In terms of story, I can totally see why some people think the black suit storyline is undermined, but I disagree. Peter did choose to give up the black suit, and did not choose to get the Anti-Venom suit. Miles and Li just gave it to him. Peter still came to that realization that the black suit corrupted him and escaped it, and because of that, I still think it holds impact.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +10

      Agreed with you.

    • @Snowsuke
      @Snowsuke 10 місяців тому +5

      There we go, finally found someone who likes the eyes design.

    • @DMFroomer
      @DMFroomer 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Snowsuke they're very sharp, almost Raimi suit in shape.

  • @Starbuckisscute
    @Starbuckisscute 10 місяців тому +33

    I was so excited when Peter got the anti venom suit bc it’s so cool and I got symbiote powers back but after the story I realized the tendrils stay white after changing to a black symbiote. That’s my only problem but that’s not related to the suit

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +5

      Yep

    • @2495781
      @2495781 10 місяців тому +3

      Could be a later update or NG+ let us choose as Anti-Venom Technicially can change its color at will.

  • @thehybrid3947
    @thehybrid3947 10 місяців тому +43

    I mean one way to look at it is the regular Symbiote Suit is Peter's anger, his darker thoughts and feelings with it being enhanced by an Alien whilst the Anti Venom Suit is Peter's positive emotions and feelings everything good about him and why it shares no resemblance to the Symbiote Suit and why it looks more like the Advanced Suit because it's just Peter Parker and everything he is as a good man.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +11

      Very true. I like that

    • @SoK05
      @SoK05 10 місяців тому +1

      I love this take.

  • @jordanrush1988
    @jordanrush1988 10 місяців тому +9

    I like the suit, but had we gotten an inverted version of insomniacs black suit, where the armored parts were white and the “gooey” parts of the suit were black…THAT…would be a super solid anti venom suit. In my opinion of course.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +1

      That would be cool as a suit style for sure

  • @user1134b6s
    @user1134b6s 10 місяців тому +7

    It seems like the Devs just can't help but overdesign their suits, adding random lines, making the spiders ginormous and blocky. If they just had the suit without the black lines on his arms and waist it would be perfect. Miles' suit is a whole other can of worms, everything from the exposed hair to the way way over designed Spider/colors is just very very out there for a canon suit. It feels like a concept art that should've been on the cutting room floor.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, that's what happens when you make your suits different from what they are in the comics etc, not much we can do but hope the future iterations and changes make them better

    • @DrRan617
      @DrRan617 10 місяців тому

      Atleast insoniaca is a good dev team unlike others like ea,etc

  • @JoekuRose
    @JoekuRose 10 місяців тому +39

    I don’t think it’s hate towards the suit, I think it’s more hate towards the fact that the abilities that come with it don’t look good unless you’re wearing a white suit

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +5

      True true

    • @spyd3y1
      @spyd3y1 9 місяців тому

      Sooo true. It’s annoying that you give me classic venom suit at the end of the game but I can’t use the symbiote to match

  • @jakeel85
    @jakeel85 10 місяців тому +11

    I love that suit. Def top 5 in the game.

  • @omnimon2230
    @omnimon2230 10 місяців тому +3

    Hopefully the option to switch between Venom and Anti-Venom symbiote attacks will be given to us.

  • @Freindlyneigbourhoodspidey
    @Freindlyneigbourhoodspidey 10 місяців тому +8

    The anti Venom suit reminds me of Gwen's Symbiote in her comics with how she has full control of it (if you don't know she uses it 24/7 because E65 Cindy moon takes her powers)

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +2

      Oh damn that's cool. I gotta catch up on the comics!

  • @beastslayer8729
    @beastslayer8729 10 місяців тому +5

    For me, it's the eyes. They are just so massive and weirdly sharp. They have grown on me quite a bit over time, but I definitely didn't like the suit at first.

  • @helpiatemytoaster
    @helpiatemytoaster 10 місяців тому +52

    I think that this suit is not that bad. I just think the anti venom style for the classic black suit captures the feel better. Anyways though, great video keep it up❤

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +3

      Agreed. Thanks for the love!

    • @Snowsuke
      @Snowsuke 10 місяців тому +4

      Oh no, no, no. This suit is perfect for me. I’ve always loved the Future foundation suit in the first game, so this suit is just straight up favors me.

  • @IFlorint
    @IFlorint 10 місяців тому +3

    I think in the next game Peter should be on a break for a while, and then there should be a dramatic scene where Miles is in big trouble or about to die, you know and needs help and right before Miles is about to get hit or something a white tendril reaches out and saves him and its Peter making his return.

  • @DEATHHAWK5189
    @DEATHHAWK5189 9 місяців тому +1

    I personally think they should not have included the anti-venom suit. I understand that they want players to be able to continue to use the venom suit but I think it would've served a better experience overall if we did not. To elaborate, the black symbiote suit is meant to feel like a addiction, a power up that we do not want to give up. But part of the experience is to be spiderman without the symbiote and feel how much weaker you are and yet fight through the addiction and not give into temptation. Getting the AV suit is like getting the high from being on heroine with none of the drawbacks. I think the best comparison is to FF7 where Aerith (spoilers) dies and you feel how much harder the game is without a healer. That weight haunts you for the rest of the playthrough and make the game that much more immersive. Now in the context of spiderman 2, it would be like if Aerith dies and 20 mins later you get Aerith 2.0 who does the exact same thing. Getting anti-venom (although not a big deal as the story overall is still good) definitely made the experience a little more cheap. I think Spiderman 2 PS5 was almost a perfect game but they chose the comfortable route instead of the difficult but more interesting route. (game is still good but horribly rushed for money prob :/)

  • @scivoid
    @scivoid 10 місяців тому +26

    The Antivenom suit is great. Honestly, I prefer it's design to the Insomniac Symbiote Suit. Always thought the black suit looked too padded and armor-like and would've preferred if it had a similar, sleek texture as the Antivenom suit.

  • @srinivasramesh2002
    @srinivasramesh2002 10 місяців тому +8

    I expected anti venom suit to be like animated versions

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому

      I didn't, I had a feeling it would be quite different which is fine, maybe Harry will become actual Anti-Venom, who knows

  • @FirestoneAnimation
    @FirestoneAnimation 9 місяців тому +1

    I actually LOVE the Anti-Venom suit. The design is beautiful. While the black suit looks like sentient armor, and the Symbiote one looks like an alien humanoid, the Anti-Venom suit looks like a suit that Peter is in full control of. He looks more heroic while the previous suits made him look more like a ballistic warrior.

  • @SuperSteph5
    @SuperSteph5 10 місяців тому +3

    I like that Peter gets to keep the Symbiote powers. Hopefully in the next game he still has them and the powers evolve.

  • @ConcasicoWoodworks
    @ConcasicoWoodworks 10 місяців тому +2

    If anything I would have loved for Peter to become the full Anti-Venom at some point, maybe as a last resort against Venom in the las boss fight and being able to turn into Anti-Venom to free roam after finishing the game, like to keep the gameplay of Venom we managed to get a little tease during the story.

  • @_veloxity91
    @_veloxity91 10 місяців тому +15

    It's weird to me. I liked the suit at first, but after wearing it for that many missions without being able to change, it's not that good to me anymore. I'd much rather have an extra style for it, where the colors are inverted. I loved the concept of the suit, but I just wish there was a little more going on with the suit's design overall. ...I just really wish there were alternate styles for the Anti-Venom suit. Maybe in a future update.. probably not.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +1

      Extra styles would be very welcome.

    • @jakejohnson718
      @jakejohnson718 9 місяців тому

      It's still a better forced suit than mophead adidas spiderman (don't mean to sound offensive with this btw, it's just that miles' hairstyle doesn't work as well for his suit than other spideys that do it in their designs, literally just looks like the end of a mop was put onto the mask of his original suit)

  • @SaneU_c
    @SaneU_c 10 місяців тому +5

    If just the eyes were black it would boost this suit to A tier for me. If they made an alternate white variant for the symbiote suit (the one u get later on) probably would’ve placed it in A+ or even S. I’ve been using the classic symbiote suite (white variant) while using anti venom powers in the end game

    • @derplololol9717
      @derplololol9717 10 місяців тому

      You mean future foundation suit
      ?

    • @emrahalien2972
      @emrahalien2972 10 місяців тому

      Homie he said "classic black suit" the one in shattered dimensions and comics.@@derplololol9717

  • @chief664
    @chief664 9 місяців тому +1

    I really don’t like how they gave Peter the anti-Venom suit. In most versions of the symbiote saga Venom was scary because you didn’t know if Peter was going to be able to defend him because he has all the powers Peter has and more. So when he does defeat Venom it proves that peter was right for getting rid of the suit and he is better without it. Giving him another suit Ruins all that.

  • @Iron_Editzz8
    @Iron_Editzz8 10 місяців тому +4

    Surprised to hear that people don't like this suit, I personally love it, it's easily top 5 for me.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +2

      Right?

    • @spawnworld2442
      @spawnworld2442 10 місяців тому

      It ruined the whole entire freaking game are you people dumb 🤔

  • @Rune404
    @Rune404 10 місяців тому +2

    A big gripe I have is why didn't he make the anti-venom suit on harry when he was dying in the end. Like peter said himself it felt like the power but none of bad like venom.

  • @ygolight392
    @ygolight392 10 місяців тому +3

    I’m fairly certain that most of the hate stems from the fact that you aren’t able to change the symbiote abilities back to the black symbiote post game, even when you wear a black suit(or the Symbiote Suit).
    If you could, odds are the hate wouldn’t be nearly as bad as it is now.

  • @prestonbradshaw702
    @prestonbradshaw702 10 місяців тому +1

    Okay… I think the concept is really cool. The ONLY reason why I don’t like the suit a ton. is because it makes me think of the future foundation suit from the comics and not anti venom. And when I wear an anti venom suit I want to be reminded of anti venom. I still like it as a suit though…

  • @ScaricoOleoso
    @ScaricoOleoso 8 місяців тому +1

    I love that I have just enjoyed this game as a good game and know nothing about the comics or the half-dozen film reboots. A better example I cannot name of how knowing too much can be a bad thing.

  • @DeaconYamao
    @DeaconYamao 10 місяців тому

    I love how in the end game the anti-Venom suit is used like the devil trigger and Devil May cry. It's so fun to use

  • @Eldrick_
    @Eldrick_ 10 місяців тому +1

    I just wish we could switch back to the venom colors.
    It makes no sense. I know there's a narrative reason, but given we can be a 20fps alt universe version of miles and Peter, it's not unrealistic to have a different color scheme.

  • @sortacoolmaybe
    @sortacoolmaybe 10 місяців тому +1

    I think the story suffers in the sense that Insomniac thought Peter needed a symbiote in order to beat Venom. I would’ve preferred the Man beats the unbeatable odds. But I know they needed to give us a symbiote so the abilities don’t go to waste

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому

      True, it was definitely a gameplay thing for sure.

    • @sortacoolmaybe
      @sortacoolmaybe 10 місяців тому

      @@iVoltexYT it’s a rare instance of the writers needing to alter the story to service the gameplay of symbiote powers. Which they did not do for the spider arms abilities. Those got to exist purely for gameplay, while the symbiote didn’t

  • @misternguyen9515
    @misternguyen9515 10 місяців тому

    Miles's white variant of his Absolute Carnage suit should've been Peter's Anti-Venom suit.

  • @MeatyMeatloaf
    @MeatyMeatloaf 10 місяців тому +1

    I really like the suit I didn’t even know people were hating on it. But, like everyone else, I hate the way the moves are white with the symbiote suit post game

  • @alphax101-gaming2
    @alphax101-gaming2 10 місяців тому

    It looks amazing under sunlight/good lighting areas where you can see the slimy details on it. Otherwise, when you can’t see the textures, it looks like someone drew the lackluster black lines on scratch paper and made it a suit.

  • @JohnJohnson-ps3pd
    @JohnJohnson-ps3pd 10 місяців тому +1

    Most hate I’ve seen for the suit are just salty “Comic” fans(who probably don’t even read comics) being mad that it changed the original story by making Peter be the first host for it.

  • @jingleballs9935
    @jingleballs9935 10 місяців тому

    The suit just gives a uncanny valley. It’s less textured than the black suit. And the todd mcfarlene eyes are a nice touch tho.

  • @GhostSaibot
    @GhostSaibot 5 місяців тому

    the issues I have with the suit are that the lenses really don't match the whole mimicking the advanced 2.0 suit look (it feels like a forced choice in design just to not have the suit look like a black and white version of advanced 2.0), the suit looks too bare and the white looks a bit pinkish-purple under certain lighting. I get that they were going for a McFarlane/Agent-Venom look for the lenses but it just feels random with a suit like this and they could've easily used lenses that looked less out of place. I would've preferred different lenses and the inner part of the lenses being orange and glowy as a nod to both Anti-Venom's eyes and Peter's Anti-ock suit from the first game (plus it'd make the yellow anti venom powers feel less out of nowhere). The suit could also benefit from more black to even out of the colors a bit (I was thinking some black around the mouth part of the mask that connects to both lenses and the nose would be a nice reference to Anti-Venom along with some black around the legs since that part of the suit looks extremely bare).

  • @kayyow7337
    @kayyow7337 10 місяців тому

    Peter’s looks like a onesie. Miles’s looks like a cartoon parody of some kind.😊

  • @Ironicalyy
    @Ironicalyy 10 місяців тому

    "bro, how do you feel about *miles* being in the same universe as peter?" is what I would say

  • @gameliveanime
    @gameliveanime 10 місяців тому +1

    I like the suit for the story but athletics it’s kind of basic compared to the symbiot suit something I don’t like is how there was no line like “hey this almost like burns the symbiots”.
    the anti venom thing he was doing at the end didn’t make sense like he never addressed the negative aspects of the suit and how it affects other symbiots. I like that he got it in the story but yeah side by side with the black suit the black suit was more detailed than the anti venom.

  • @Xiaolingisdagoat
    @Xiaolingisdagoat 10 місяців тому

    You say there subverting expectations but Harry is Venom during the ultimate show

  • @bastilashan2627
    @bastilashan2627 10 місяців тому +1

    it looks dope it reminds me of the future foundation suit. i think people are just mad the parry is still white and doesnt match the other suits at all.

  • @pucchithien
    @pucchithien 10 місяців тому +1

    It's a pretty nice design, I only dislike the fact that this suit has mechanical eyes even though it is a symbiote suit. One more thing is that this suit looks too friendly ( I know it's supposed to ) but I would prefer if they added another version like the Symbiote Black Suit where it looks more sharp and dangerous with the orange glow like in the comics for eyes. Still a solid 8/10

    • @Therealkaicenafyesyes
      @Therealkaicenafyesyes 9 місяців тому

      There shouldve been an antivenom surge suit/mode thats more accurate to the comic version with red eyes and more black

  • @brunomatassini9879
    @brunomatassini9879 9 місяців тому

    I liked it and the big McFarlane style eyes as a reference to Todd McFarlane who originated Venom was really nice.

  • @synedcore
    @synedcore 10 місяців тому +1

    I was very disappointed when I saw this costume in the game. They should have made the eyes more round like in the black suit, removed the black inserts on the inside of his arms and made the logo like in the symbiotic suit. I hope they fix this or add the ability to use other anti-venom suits.

  • @The-Real-Soundwave
    @The-Real-Soundwave 10 місяців тому +2

    Personaly I think this it THE BEST symbiote suit ever, the best suit in general is the advanced 2.0 suit

  • @ItsOver9000Productions
    @ItsOver9000Productions 10 місяців тому +3

    I just don't like the placement of the black parts or the eyes shape. It wouldve been much cooler if it was the same design as the advanced suit but just white and black with the current logo it has now.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому

      I like the eyes, but the black parts could be placed better!

  • @usercoocoocrazy293
    @usercoocoocrazy293 10 місяців тому +1

    i hate how the anti venom suit's black part of its arms dont go all the way to its hands

  • @Votterbin
    @Votterbin 10 місяців тому

    This is the first time I'm hearing any hate about the Anti-Venom suit, I personally really like it

  • @spyderarthln
    @spyderarthln 10 місяців тому

    I didn’t even know people didn’t like the suit. It looks great except for the legs and Insomniac did a great job with the textures

  • @michelegiacoppo130
    @michelegiacoppo130 10 місяців тому

    The only thing I would Change about the anti venom suit is the aesthethic,I would make the eyes a glowing orange color and make the suit overall more spikey like in the comics

  • @kylebasler3191
    @kylebasler3191 9 місяців тому

    One thing I NEED is White Tendril Webs with the antivenom suit. They have black tendril webbing for the black suit and symbiote suit and classic black suit. Feel like it shouldnt be that hard to make a version of them white and then tack it on to the anti venom suit!

  • @tylertalsma7794
    @tylertalsma7794 10 місяців тому +2

    One of my favorite suits I've ever laid my eyes on.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +1

      It is a nice suit!

  • @somerandomguy5507
    @somerandomguy5507 10 місяців тому +1

    People hate this suit? I haven't seen a drop of hate around surprisingly enough.
    Still can't be as abhorrent as the "Evolved Suit" . . .

  • @SAGEtheGOD01
    @SAGEtheGOD01 10 місяців тому +1

    The Anti-Venom suit is all i wear since they took out the negative advsnced suit

  • @waltherlaureano
    @waltherlaureano 10 місяців тому

    ngl what i dont like about this suit is the fact that the anti venoms eyes are lenses like what you would see in the regular spidermans costumes instead of the odd bio-lenses that all symbiotes have for eyes, peter had it when he had the venom symbiote, venom obviously has it, but even also miles has them in his symbiote costumes

  • @omarkarim2280
    @omarkarim2280 10 місяців тому +1

    i didn’t even realize the suit was getting hate. i dig the design a lot. plus it serves a gameplay purpose to let peter keep venom abilities after he loses the symbiote. as long as between this and the next game he loses it i’m fine

  • @Kable05
    @Kable05 10 місяців тому

    something I noticed is that this Spider-Man suit resembles the design of the PS5, so it's a pretty epic marketing strategy

  • @CJ-km3ls
    @CJ-km3ls 10 місяців тому

    Man how cool would it have been if they replaced the symbiote syrge with a more comicbook accurate look for anti-venom and had peter play like venom exept the killing part when he uses the syrge

  • @TheLumpyShield
    @TheLumpyShield 10 місяців тому

    2:54 Yeah. most likely. Spidey always makes alterations to his suits to fight someone he normally can't. I can def see a suit that maybe boosts his web wings to keep up with Green Goblin's Glider. or something to make the pumpkin bombs less dangerous.
    Spidey always makes a suit to fight his villains. Dang webs are being fried by Electo, now I have a non conductive suit and webs. Sound dampening suit to fight Shocker, etc

  • @aozorahaou2643
    @aozorahaou2643 10 місяців тому +1

    I hope in the next game Peter keeps this suit aka it doesnt die in future DLC and he uses its healing powers to heal Harry in the future, I would love to see them keep the symbiote surge ability in the 3rd mainline game to balance it the symbiote abilities or something as I seen folks say no he has to give it up for balancing issues for the next game.

  • @KovanNova
    @KovanNova 10 місяців тому +1

    Hot take probably but Anti-Venom suit looks better than black suit. I regret nothing.

  • @SleepyElixir52
    @SleepyElixir52 10 місяців тому +1

    Only reason i hate it is after the end of the game you cant change the attacks back to normal venom so it makes it pointless to wear the blacksuits after

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah its pretty jarring

  • @rixked
    @rixked 10 місяців тому

    Yea that's what people do not understand but Insomniacs Spider-Man is almost like a new Spider man comic which is amazing because having a new way to look at spider man with inspiration taken from earlier representations of comics but also not afraid to change it up Venom immune to Fire is a Big example of that which I think many people dislike but let's venom look more formidable

  • @NGBit
    @NGBit 10 місяців тому

    You know, one of the possibilities of introducing AV into this world means that by theory, if Harry does survive and becomes a version of a Goblin, he's bonded with the symbiote even longer than Peter, so whatever leftover symbiote is in his body could potentially reawaken with the G Serum and we could get Venom Goblin, or even a version of the Demogoblin.

  • @NoName-ym5zj
    @NoName-ym5zj 10 місяців тому +3

    What I wonder is if they will keep the symbiote. Idk how I feel about Spider-man who is permanently bound to a symbiote, if it can do everything Venom could do for Spidey than that would effectively mean that Spider-man is now virtually immortal, which would just destroy any stakes.

    • @ezzekieldirks8542
      @ezzekieldirks8542 10 місяців тому

      Fax i just like classic spidey. I hope that he will lose the anti venom in the 3rd game

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +2

      He might keep it but i feel like he'll heal Harry with it. Harry might become Agent Anti-Venom, who knows though.

    • @theultimatefusion7265
      @theultimatefusion7265 10 місяців тому +3

      ​​@@ezzekieldirks8542I prefer Peter having a gimmick. Technology is shared between both spideys so that's not an option, as such i'd want him to keep Anti-Venom

    • @theultimatefusion7265
      @theultimatefusion7265 10 місяців тому +2

      As for the 'no stakes' thingy, i would double-down on Peter's only weakness with this symbiote and make him unable to get any rest during the main campaign in a next game (As Anti-Venom would get weaker and weaker, making him more manageable for whoever the villains are)

    • @jesusraycrep
      @jesusraycrep 10 місяців тому

      ​​@@ezzekieldirks8542of course not

  • @xnet_cascade6257
    @xnet_cascade6257 10 місяців тому +1

    As much as I would’ve loved to see antivenom in full symbiotic form, I really liked the suit

  • @Volt_Fortnite
    @Volt_Fortnite 10 місяців тому +1

    It looks good to me. Maybe the eyes are what setting people off but they are cool too

    • @Volt_Fortnite
      @Volt_Fortnite 10 місяців тому

      Plus I don't think they've done antivenom spiderman in the comics as far as j know only a antivenom venom

  • @KoditheHedgehog
    @KoditheHedgehog 7 місяців тому

    Peter can’t give Harry the Anti-Venom Suit because it’s inseparable

  • @Nygassso
    @Nygassso 10 місяців тому

    It’s the eyes and the lack of ability to change back to the black symbiotie

  • @Jeoul
    @Jeoul 10 місяців тому

    I LOVE the eye shape. I wish they’d take this exact eye shape and slap it onto a sensational Spider-Man suit.

  • @projectbpain44
    @projectbpain44 10 місяців тому +1

    i just dont think he was as strong as he should of been. He was still getting tossed around by venom

  • @Evoker23-lx8mb
    @Evoker23-lx8mb 10 місяців тому

    I would’ve preferred if it was just a colour inversion of either the black suit or the symbiote suit.

  • @WereSquatch
    @WereSquatch 10 місяців тому

    Its objectively fine, itt looks decent and still provides the symbiote gameplay people want, its just the fan love for the proper symbiote suit thats ragging on it

  • @jinny00e
    @jinny00e 10 місяців тому

    I really dont know why people hate anti-venom suit. It is the best suit, in design, skills, and everything. At least, Peter won't turn evil or be corrupted and be aggresive or something.

  • @Chrismas815
    @Chrismas815 10 місяців тому

    MJ also mentioned that when she was Scream she saw Harry, Peter, and the meteorite; I assumed she saw them all because of the give mind, showing Pete still had the symbiote connecting him

  • @iiSky__
    @iiSky__ 10 місяців тому +7

    I don't hate it personally. But my main issue, is when you get the suit the parrying is this symbiote parry animation by default regardless, of if you have the suit on or not. Also the fact you cant change the symbiote colour.

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +2

      100%

    • @The-No-one
      @The-No-one 10 місяців тому

      I had a suit like the no way home suit and it used the spider arms.

  • @Ultimodestructico
    @Ultimodestructico 10 місяців тому

    I still can’t believe we didn’t get a spider cop suit.
    I honestly took the anti venom suit off as soon as I could it’s not my cup of tea at all.
    It just looks weird. The black under arms. The eyes are just off and the textures are just weird like gone off milk.
    Even the recolour of the classic symbiote with just plain black eyes look so much better.

  • @arkhamgamer43prodigyfam30
    @arkhamgamer43prodigyfam30 10 місяців тому +1

    My only question is y didn’t Peter just give harry the av after the game to cure him

  • @paris5831
    @paris5831 10 місяців тому +2

    People getting mad over skins is ridiculous people are just miserable

  • @maldito214
    @maldito214 10 місяців тому +1

    I was thinking man I wish Peter just kept the venom cus miles is so powerful with his own abilities Peter could use his own power and boom the next mission this happens it was crazy and it makes sense because of the main boss of the last game crazy

  • @quotastrider801
    @quotastrider801 10 місяців тому

    I really like the suit, ESPECIALLY with how the lenses change their actuak shape instead of just the black shutters to reflect his mood

  • @GreasyBalls69520
    @GreasyBalls69520 10 місяців тому

    Just be real. Ya'll don't hate the anti venom suit, ya'll just want the option to have the black tendrills whenever using the symbiote suit

  • @Chrismas815
    @Chrismas815 10 місяців тому

    I'm glad Insomniac is doing its own thing with Spider-man, but still paying homage to the history of the characters

  • @gummy9283
    @gummy9283 10 місяців тому +1

    the only problem i had with this suit was the black part under his arm

  • @Nomadx83
    @Nomadx83 10 місяців тому

    For the Anti-Venom suit they should have just done just the black suit with red eyes and the Anti-Venom colors

  • @cookanthony4343
    @cookanthony4343 10 місяців тому +2

    I don’t like the black on the bottom of the feet and the eyes are to big for my liking other than that I like how clean it looks

    • @iVoltexYT
      @iVoltexYT  10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, all in all it looks good

  • @robcarlton2341
    @robcarlton2341 10 місяців тому

    Ill be honest i think peter should've kept the symbiote in the first place. Peter is all about rehabilitation or finding the good in his enemies and i always found it weird that he never tries to help the symbiote and show it the good. I understand eddy kinda does but itd be much cooler if hed seen the bad influence eddy is on the symbiote and takes it back and shows it a better way.

  • @Taitosalad
    @Taitosalad 9 місяців тому

    If you have mr negative in a game that features symbiotes then you might as well include anti-venom in some way. Me personally I’d do a few changes to the design like maybe make his face more expressive like it almost his second skin, give it red eyes like the comic and maybe when he goes into surge mode he grows spikes on the suit.