Automating an AGS Annealer
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- I work through the automation of an AGS annealer and give my overall thoughts.
All links will be in the first comment just to make life easier.
Format is a bit slideshow'ish, but this video took me a couple of months to get this project done, with a little here and little there type approach, and pictures with a voice over just works better for me.
Parts from Amazon and 3d printed parts
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BF8JXZRG
3mm bearings
www.amazon.com/dp/B08HV1K9L4
Catch pans
www.amazon.com/dp/B00HYK6166
8/32 set screws
www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YOAW
Drill and tap
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BS631D2B
Brass ¼” T fitting
www.amazon.com/dp/B09HBPY5LM
Tank splitter - alternative to T fitting
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMKTF957
Hose
www.amazon.com/dp/B00008ZA0C
Torch head
drive.google.com/file/d/19DcxsnI4RmIpycRjMgeo8nOD_Eho95jH/view?usp=sharing
3d printed parts - download, extract, print
Easily the best mod video on this unit
Thanks!
Excellent ingenuity. I am thinking if I get to make my own, I think it would make sense to increase diameter of the rotating wheel couple more inches to avoid melting issues. Also it appears that making the case drop adapter would be simple on the lathe from aluminum with milling machine pass for cut out.
As a hobby machinist I completely understand the annoyance when your milling machine is setup and tied up for another project :)
What you bring up is exactly why I looked for a Benchsource, because they have the larger plate. Not to mention they are really nice, but spendy if you can find one. If I was going to build one from scratch? Id use a combination of a Benchsource and AGS. I post on THR reloading forum, and one of the guys there, jmorris has a great design as well, but Ill be damned if I cant find his videos here on UA-cam. He used a flat 3/16 or 1/4 steel or aluminum plate with a universal sized slot laser cut in and had a trip mechanism for feeding the cases. If I find it, Ill post a link.
I talked with Stefan via email and he asked me a few questions beyond this video, and I gave him some feedback ideas on how I would handle certain things if I was going to do a production type machine but have it not be a huge change on the machining side from the original machine.
I would use a ball bearing plunger to hold the case inserts in, but that requires milling/drilling/threading in that insert at an angle, and putting a dimple in the inserts. The inserts would also require removing the front as I did quite cheesily with my drill press. Thats all machine time and in a production shop, thats additional cost as Im sure you understand.
The drop tube setup would still require some kind of a heat shield I think though, even if if the parts are aluminum, and thats to keep the case feeder tube made from thin plastic from melting down. I suppose using a full metal drop tube from the case feeder is also an option, maybe milling some intermittent slots into it just to be able to see the cases in the tube.
Great video, thanks
Thanks!
Excellent video, and great case feeder. Exactly what is needed.
Thanks 👍
Wow, excellent video sir, really like the mods you performed on your AGS, the case feeder s sweet!! Ya' have a new subscriber from east central Mississippi here!! Dan
Thanks man! The Annealeez worked great, and I ran probably 30k pieces of brass thru mine in the time I had it. The dual torches on the AGS make a huge difference in speed on those big cases though, and with a case feeder, it makes life stupid simple.
I just added a 2nd torch to my aneeleez for the reasons you mentioned, way too much time in the flame with a single torch.
I would say adding the second torch cuts annealing time by about 30%, but Id have to run some 1 vs 2 torch setups to really make that call.|
The real win Im seeing is less heat migration to the base of the case, which will ruin them. Dual torches are faster and more localized, so less chances of bad things happening.
@@CorwinBos that’s what I was getting at with the time in the flame comment. By the time the neck and shoulder gets hot enough, the body and head have gotten too hot for my liking. High heat, short time prevents it.
I really need to rig up something like this for my benchsource.
Do you have the version with 10 large holes in the plate? Or the one with 10 small and 10 large?
Of the 2, the one with 10 holes would be pretty simple to setup. Probably be almost the same parts I used for this AGS.
The 20 hole variant, I am assuming that is so you can use the smaller holes for annealing smaller cases? This one would be more of a challenge and would require a trigger of some type to drop the case from the tube into the plate instead of just dragging the case along the feed plate like I do with the AGS.
Excellent video! Thanks. I decided to order the AGS 3.1 with the second torch nozzle holder. I am planning on using a 20# tank. What parts do I need to get to run both torches off the tank? What torches would be preferred? Thanks for your help. Duane
Duane, its in the pinned comment but here ya go
www.amazon.com/dp/B08HV1K9L4
Catch pans
www.amazon.com/dp/B00HYK6166
Tank splitter - alternative to T fitting
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BMKTF957
Hose
www.amazon.com/dp/B00008ZA0C
Torch head
@@CorwinBosThanks. The splitter address must have changed. It isn’t displayed at that Amazon address.
I found it on your original pin. Thanks again.
@@duanemadoerin3283 Good deal. Thats a cheapy splitter, but seems to work good enough. 1 splitter, 2 hoses, 2 torches and youre ready to roll. I used the T for a bit, but it seemed like my flame from the torch wasnt as consistent.
UA-cam makes is a pain to post direct links without verification. The hoop jumping thru just to post a link on a video is ridiculous.
Hi, can you provide the diameter of the disc to which the shells are mounted, and what the disc looks like from the bearing side? I want to make the entire machine myself.
what is the size/diameter of the turn table please?
Where can I get inserts for 7mag. They sent plenty to small.
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Look at about the 4 minute time stamp. If you didn't receive the 4 different sizes, I would drop a quick email to AGS and I'm betting they will send you the appropriate sized inserts.
Even without an insert the 7 Mag should run just fine. Might be a little wobble in the flame, but I think it will be alright. Get you by in a pinch anyway.