Thank you for being so honest with us it helps us newbie when we have an issue. Love your videos because you are so honest and helpful teaching people how things work and that things can go wrong even when you have been doing it for a long time.
Well described the terrible time you had balancing the bubble plates and getting the reflux right I've been using my pot still with a thumper for just over 2 years now this is the next step I'm going to get into and understanding what's happening good and bad is great so I can get it right thanks very much
Wow -- load management power outage?!? We are spoiled in North America that doesn't happen only in EXTREME weather... Hope your next run goes without any hiccups!
Hi Rubber, Yeah, I have to plan around it but nowadays the power is unpredictable at best and we were not supposed to have load shedding that time but the stages went up and I was F##k
We insulate the column here for running at -20 in an uninsulated garage. Two layers of black foam pipe insulation and it is all wrapped with electric tape. The boiler is insulated with shiny silver bubble wrap, 3 layers. Winter and summer, keeps it very consistent. No need to use gas with that setup.
At least you’re truthful about the issues that you experience. To many people use editing to make it look like they are perfect. Keep up with the great work and no worries
Please check Cyrus out at still in the clear I submitted an article to him on an Apple mountain Brandy that I made this past weekend if he likes it he may put it on his site
Eish Papi, jy het so uitgesien na die run! Just glad you are going to re use the current product, Hopefully the next run will be better, but look at the bright side, in 2 weeks we’re going to pray for a cold front again! Keep us updated, thanks a million See you Ciao ciao
how did you find the apple skins flavour? I made an apple brandy and it developed quite a "waxy" apple taste to it which I can only imagine is from the skins.
Bad News ESDOM. I'm off grid and my own power, plus I opted for a gas system, would have loved to have both. The weather we cannot predict or control. Could you give me recipe for lemon or lime, as I have an abundance of lime. O Yes, I have received my still, so I'm now also in the starting face after a couple of years of listening and following. Thanks to you and Still it.
Hello beaver 😢 to bad it did not work out win some lose some in distilling world maybe one hint the appels after the condenser wil do funny stuff to a spirit looking forward to the next attempt
I hate it when a run goes bad. That's why I use SCR controllers instead of PID. With the fine control we need for distilling I just can't trust a PID sending jolts of power. I use a Watt meter with the SCR since the amount of power delivered doesn't have a linear relationship to the position of the knob. Having a Watt or VA meter inline allows for very predictable control of output speed. None of that would have fixed the cold wind blowing through though.
Trying to run a still with no temperature control in the room is going to be tough no matter what method you use but I'd be more concerned with supervising the still as a fire hazard. As idiot proof as the PID can be in a perfect world I don't like the idea of leaving a still alone for any significant period when running.
Hi. That is a super idea but highly unlikely as the enzymes needed to convert amygdalin to cyanide is not present in ferment or the distillation. I will be more careful in the next batch to remove all the seeds to see if it makes a difference
Oh look at that, another person trying to use a PID for something it can't do gets garbage results after fighting it for hours. Gee, why don't like, oh IDK, a million experienced distillers warn people to not waste time and money on a PID? And why don't those million experienced distillers talk about every time somebody gets the "smart" idea of trying to use a PID for something it is entirely unsuited for? What's that? That's exactly what happens? Huh, so why are we here again, with yet another noob with fancy equipment blaming PID problems on the freaking weather? It's not the weather dawg, it's the PID. PID logic simply can not work on a still boiler.
Lol I wouldn't be that rude about but you're 100% correct. It's not the wind or change in temps.. it's the stupid PID screwing him up. I won't let one touch my still
Another great video that clearly demonstrates why the PID should be left with the mash tun and put nowhere near a still.
I have had some interesting results wit a pid on a non reflux still, it can work.
@@robertserumgard2344 After lots of trial and error and setting parameters.
I love these vids we all make mistakes these are honest vids everyone should see.
Thank you I believe mistakes makes us better distillers after 13years of doing this they happen and we need to learn from them
Ditch the PID. I run my still with SCR and never have problems with wind or external temp changes
PID is far more disruptive when dealing with external factors.
I won't let one get anywhere near my rig
I’d like to try a PID with an SCR and amp meter on the output so it is not full on/off with a burner on super low. Maybe…..
Thank you for being so honest with us it helps us newbie when we have an issue. Love your videos because you are so honest and helpful teaching people how things work and that things can go wrong even when you have been doing it for a long time.
Thanks for all the work that turned out to be very educational. Now we see what kind of havoc a temperature change can wreak during a run.
Very true have had temp changes but this was crazy it was a 7c drop in a matter of 40min with the wind it just made it crazy
Great video. I like seeing corrections made on the fly as it’s more real world. Keep up the good work! Cheers 🎉
Thanks for the video Beaver I always learn something.
Thank you Slobber
Well described the terrible time you had balancing the bubble plates and getting the reflux right I've been using my pot still with a thumper for just over 2 years now this is the next step I'm going to get into and understanding what's happening good and bad is great so I can get it right thanks very much
Wow -- load management power outage?!? We are spoiled in North America that doesn't happen only in EXTREME weather... Hope your next run goes without any hiccups!
Hi Rubber,
Yeah, I have to plan around it but nowadays the power is unpredictable at best and we were not supposed to have load shedding that time but the stages went up and I was F##k
Love seeing the mistakes, like others said it makes me less afraid of making mistakes as I learn this stuff too
We insulate the column here for running at -20 in an uninsulated garage. Two layers of black foam pipe insulation and it is all wrapped with electric tape. The boiler is insulated with shiny silver bubble wrap, 3 layers. Winter and summer, keeps it very consistent. No need to use gas with that setup.
At least you’re truthful about the issues that you experience. To many people use editing to make it look like they are perfect. Keep up with the great work and no worries
Please check Cyrus out at still in the clear I submitted an article to him on an Apple mountain Brandy that I made this past weekend if he likes it he may put it on his site
Even in failure we learn.. so it is never a complete failure.
I absolutely agree with this statement learnt alot from this run
Eish Papi, jy het so uitgesien na die run!
Just glad you are going to re use the current product,
Hopefully the next run will be better, but look at the bright side, in 2 weeks we’re going to pray for a cold front again!
Keep us updated, thanks a million
See you
Ciao ciao
how did you find the apple skins flavour? I made an apple brandy and it developed quite a "waxy" apple taste to it which I can only imagine is from the skins.
Looking forward to seeing you retry this recipe when you have settled in at the new place
Me too! Can't wait
Bad News ESDOM. I'm off grid and my own power, plus I opted for a gas system, would have loved to have both. The weather we cannot predict or control.
Could you give me recipe for lemon or lime, as I have an abundance of lime. O Yes, I have received my still, so I'm now also in the starting face after a couple of years of listening and following. Thanks to you and Still it.
I quit using my PID for distilling. I use a solid state relay with a potentiometer now.
Hello beaver 😢 to bad it did not work out win some lose some in distilling world maybe one hint the appels after the condenser wil do funny stuff to a spirit looking forward to the next attempt
I hate it when a run goes bad. That's why I use SCR controllers instead of PID. With the fine control we need for distilling I just can't trust a PID sending jolts of power. I use a Watt meter with the SCR since the amount of power delivered doesn't have a linear relationship to the position of the knob. Having a Watt or VA meter inline allows for very predictable control of output speed.
None of that would have fixed the cold wind blowing through though.
Sucks bro but stuff happens. Thanks for your honesty
Like they say, the brown and smelly happens. Here's for the 2nd time going well. :)
Hey Brother,
Yeah it does happen but it does feel like shit if you can't get it to work, hopefully second run goes like butter
😀😊😇🥳 Sometimes it's happening. 🥂
Donnerse Loadshedding, shit happens, aanhouer wen my maat...
Ja wat my maat dit is maar so, moet verseker plan maak
Trying to run a still with no temperature control in the room is going to be tough no matter what method you use but I'd be more concerned with supervising the still as a fire hazard. As idiot proof as the PID can be in a perfect world I don't like the idea of leaving a still alone for any significant period when running.
Hi Robert.
I agree with you 💯 once my still is on I do not leave it alone for even one second, and even more cautious when I light the propane
Sucks to plan runs around Eksdom
Eish. Eskom...
Sterkte ek net op gas en dis nou te koud ja
Ssr. Or scr is the way to go.
I have to say I agree, but PID does have its advantages
@@BEAVERDIY it does I have one for stripping runs. And src for spirits.
@@the_whiskeyshaman True that
Agge nee man,maar ja dit het my ook oorgekom,Eskom hoor my nou nog vloek,ons het n 5 ure loadshedding gehad,sterkte vir jou,ek het oor geggaan gas toe
Hey broer, jy lyk vrek koud!
Might of got a bit of cyanide from any Appleseed that was left of mash
Hi.
That is a super idea but highly unlikely as the enzymes needed to convert amygdalin to cyanide is not present in ferment or the distillation.
I will be more careful in the next batch to remove all the seeds to see if it makes a difference
Get rid of the gin basket and sight glass apples. Weird way to boost apple flavor.
Oh look at that, another person trying to use a PID for something it can't do gets garbage results after fighting it for hours. Gee, why don't like, oh IDK, a million experienced distillers warn people to not waste time and money on a PID? And why don't those million experienced distillers talk about every time somebody gets the "smart" idea of trying to use a PID for something it is entirely unsuited for? What's that? That's exactly what happens? Huh, so why are we here again, with yet another noob with fancy equipment blaming PID problems on the freaking weather?
It's not the weather dawg, it's the PID. PID logic simply can not work on a still boiler.
Lol I wouldn't be that rude about but you're 100% correct. It's not the wind or change in temps.. it's the stupid PID screwing him up. I won't let one touch my still