@@LalodysLoreI think Argenti’s serious in the sense that everything he says is 110% sincere. Personally, it would mean the world to me if he was aromantic in one way or another.
@@LalodysLore Yeah I think with sparkle the whole companion quest just felt like an elaborate scheme to actually get under Black Swans skin. She probably thought Swan would be uncomfortable or bothered if she had a fan that was obsessed with her and kept singing her praises.
@@LalodysLore In Sparkle's voice line about Black Swan she says "Graceful, entertaining, distinguished, yet dangerous... I'm just itching to bring someone like that down, but hey, her wrecking me... is totally on the table too!"
@@limgonnabeastar3320Kinda XD After all Otome games are mostly like 10 or so guys living together without ever being in the presence of a girl, how do you expect them to fulfill their needs when alone? XD (Excluding family)
@limgonnabeastar3320 Marius's secretary/assistant seems....very very happy to be of help iykyk Also there have been characters in the stories other than the main 4 that act a bit fruity Also like all the lawyers from the opposing law firm are at least a bit fruity
Argenti is serious about everything. However, seeing something as beautiful doesn’t appear to be necessarily romantic for him- unless March was right and he was actually flirting with a plant. 🪴
@@stephanieworkman5110 See that's the problem, if he calls everything he sees as beautiful beautiful where do we go hey maybe he means this romantically
@@Althedemonking1076 Idk he seemed VERY close with our good-ol' space cowboy, even to the extent unseen from Argenti's interactions with other characters
Players to HSR: Wow this game has beautiful graphics and wonderful storyline i wonder how will the devs continue this? HSR devs to HSR: OMG WE PUT SOOOO MANY LESBIANS IN THIS LETS SEE HOW MUCH CAN WE FIT IN THE NEXT
there was that one where ratio introduces aventurine as well that’s like… he got flustered lol, i love the special program inserts edit: i think it was one of the aventurine character videos, like going over his playstyle, not the special program
@@softlybloomingoooh i remember that, Albert was telling Ratio that Aventurine mentioned him. And he was like: "so, er, what did he tell you about me" 😆
@carl2775 don't forget Elysia with the original Mei, she was collecting GFs like they were pokemon cards 😭😭😭 (seriously, her lines with Eden, Aponia, and Mobius are insanely lesbian) edit: oops i didnt notice that someone said it already, sorry about that lol
To add: In the Chinese version, There's also Owlbert blushing over Boothill threatening him in his Keeping up with Star rail program incomparison to the English version which has Owlbert scared of Boothill The reason for this is that In Chinese, There's no swear words or to mix words with em, so what they did is they censored him with Flirtatious sentences like Baby, I love you- you get the point
It's wild how people will say hoyo is pushing Caelus x Firefly and proceed to ignore all other romatic subtext in the game and get mad at you for pointing it out 💀
Like people are STILL saying Ratio and Aventurine have nothing between them. The official Hoyoverse account literally got "The Final Victor" animated, anyone with half a braincell that watches that can see they have this weird love-hate sexual tension going on.
People are still saying there isn’t any sexual tension in the black swan x acheron dance 😆, and think Jade is a mother figure to Topaz?? Am I missing something in the Chinese? Cause Jade doesn’t strike me as a mother figure to Topaz and Aventurine?
@@MirandaWeaveri mean she talks about “setting a good example” for her and helping them out, but it always felt like an older sister thing, not parental at all
the aventurine and ratio quest is called double indemnity which has some crazy symbolism i think cause its the name of a movie where a woman double crosses her lover or something. would have to recheck but yeah edit: there is an INCREDIBLY good dissection of the movie and its parallels to the scene in the quest in the replies they explain it far better than i ever could ⬇️⬇️
yep! double indemnity is about two lovers plotting to kill the wife's husband for insurance (hence the name), all the while acting like they don't know each other/aren't close. this puts ratio and aventurine into the roles of the conspirators (walter neff and phyllis dietrichson respectively) and the person they have to fool being sunday (mr. dietrichson) - they have to sell the act that they hate each other so ratio's "betrayal" seems believable to sunday symbolism between double indemnity and aventurine/ratio actually runs…quite deep. just to fire through the ones off the most significant ones: • the biggest and most obvious one is the final victor light cone being a direct reference to phyllis and neff's final scene together - from the character parallels to the composition (+ ratio gets a new outfit to match neff), etc etc. even the amount of gunshots is the same as the amount of blanks in the light cone (three). and between the two scenes, one starts a relationship (aventurine and ratio) and one ends a relationship (phyllis and neff, as phyllis gets shot twice) • the main character parallels, like i said, are neff = ratio and phyllis = phyllis, though both ratio and aventurine take from BOTH leads, as aventurine is the one who actually cooked up the scheme (which is what neff does in the movie) and ratio is the accomplice (phyllis' role). there are other similarities like neff making a gambling metaphor that sounds incredibly like aventurine (which, by the way, in the book the movie is based on the same metaphor goes on for TWO WHOLE PARAGRAPHS), phyllis being a nurse and ratio being a medical doctor, and a bunch more (so much more that if i were to list them all here we would be here forever) • the movie deals with a lot of double/crossings between… almost ALL the characters in one way or another (one reason as to why it's considered a quintessential film noir) and you can say the same thing for the sunday mansion mission, what with sunday sentencing aventurine to death, ratio's "betrayal", and aventurine slipping away with his cornerstone in the bag of gift money w/o sunday knowing • there are a couple of other scenes in the movie that have parallels to the game (i.e the interrogation scenes between sunday-aventurine and when ratio and sunday talk vs the scene where phyllis gets questioned by the insurance company and (prior to that), the scene where neff gets mr. dietrichson to sign the policy with the double indemnity clause) • not only do ratio-aventurine have parallels between neff-phyllis, they even share similarities to neff and barton keyes (intimate friends and co-workers, trust in one another, etc.) • honestly there is so much you have to wonder how they got away with it. it's kind of insane also fun fact, since double indemnity was made around the time when the hays code was in place (censorship under the guise of making films safe for the general audience), they had to get around the guidelines by rewriting dialogue laced with subtext (and changing the ending from the book)… now doesn't that sound slightly familiar sorry for coming in with this by the way i see double indemnity mentioned in relation two ratio and aven and my brain immediately latches onto it and starts infodumping (kind of unrelated? but it's so interesting to me how the two explicit romance movie refs for the two (this and spellbound) put ratio and aventurine into the roles of both the male AND female leads… i think about that a lot)
For Mikhail and Hanunue, I like how Citizen Hanunue soundtrack's description is "Dear Mikhail: You provide prose poetry and I'll provide warfare" LIKE THEY ALREADY DO THEIR VOWS 😭 idk guys i think that's so romantic
the aventurine section had me on the floor it just went on and on and on (and the little comments certainly did Not help (positive)) anyway. i'd like to add that during heaven is a place on earth when aventurine talks to the bloodhound NPC he refers to him as a "hunk of a man" inside his own thoughts, and the way he talks to him is… Very different compared to the other NPCs ("as the most outstanding hound in Penacony…") and while it's EN VO-only (and kind of unrelated)… woolsey is also voiced by ratio's VA (Jordan Paul Haro). make that what you will
I had to look this up,only to realize almost everyone is infact queer coded in some way I say the only obvious couple is Asta and Arlan.besides that everyone is queer or too busy to have say gex (rm for example)
@@serenitymercerYanQuing and the new character who is Blade niece ? Their older versions are married Im pretty sure. Come to think of it, the Xinzhou characters barely have any romatic relationship references except Blade and Dan Feng I think. But that could change since its look like we coming back there soon.
im laughing already on the first one with the bottles- its such a direct message due to the pure ridiculousness of the situation (ofc, in an amazing way- absolutely loving hoyo humor) but its also indirect as you can just ignore and skip over that fact.
11:39 Something I think it's worth pointing out is that in the Portuguese translation of the game, lady is the only one of the "monsters" refered with she/her pronouns, while all of the others use he/him
You gave me the best pride month gift with my dear Aventurine and Robin here. Honestly, I remember reading the 'Happy Prince' during High School, years ago, and being sure that the swallow and the prince were in some kind of metaphorical gay relationship but not knowing how I got that feeling or how to explain it. Knowing more about the author now, I couldnt be happier about it
she also gives me trans vibes. i don’t rlly have proof for this but for me the colors she wears, the fact that she doesn’t remember who she used to be and uses a different name now, and her frequent comments about what it means to be a girl/what cute girls like all feel very trans to me. i could totally be wrong and reading into things ofc
Prob bc of the penacony focus but yeah march is definitely some sort of multisexual (using this as an umbrella for people attracted to multiple genders if that's wrong lmk) and hardcore trans coded
ahh i love this channel so much... i was actually compiling a list of boothill's arguably gay lines, details, and moments when you uploaded this LOL. you may not believe this but theres a considerable amount of evidence there!
the recent quest with boothill and argenti had me like 🤨 “i realized that this cold robot shell had a blazing hot, chivalrous heart. he surely was worthy of the beauty’s favor..” - argenti boothill gets flustered in this exchange, saying stuff like “fork me, you can’t just…” and “could you pipe down? for fork’s sake…” as argenti continues to compliment him
Here are a few other things I noticed: While playing as Aventurine in the 2.1 quest, he meets one of the bloodhound members (I believe it was Woolsy), and in his internal monologue he calls him a hunk. Also during that same quest, Acheron and Welt sneak into the dewlight pavilion where they see Aventurine's shoe prints and Welt notes that they're "flamboyant". Sparkle seems to have some weird obsession with getting BS's attention, specifically in the companion quest in 2.0. Siobhan calls March a "pretty lady" and March gets excited. There sre more but I don't feel like typing it out.
I would like to mention a message sent by Sparkle at the end of "Farewell Penacony", where she tells us that "Dr.Primitive is a huge fan of bananas" lamo (a direct quote). "You know what? Actually..."
i would like to say that for number 4, it was stated that most of the stuff in there was made up for more people to buy the tabloid. but i agree with the rest
The thing I ran into with Siobhan is that while sure, they definitely were going for lesbian vibes, I (a NonBinary/Trans-femme) got serious gender envy from her. The look combined with the deep voice really did it for me, one of the few masculine adjacent characters I can relate to in the aesthetics department (the deep voice really pushed it over for me).
Oh fuckin same. I'm usually more masc leaning but butch/masculine ladies give me hardcore gender envy. Like I don't wanna be a woman unless it's that kinda woman
Still hilarious to me that, bc the whole traumatic part of the trailer was just happening to black swan in acheron's head, she has no idea about it and is just like "yeah she was nice I wanna dance with her again"
Something else to mention about Robin is her reference to Marilyn Monroe, with the scene of her trying to prevent her skirt from being lifted by the wind. It's speculated that Monroe was a lesbian or bisexual (some also speculate asexual) despite her status as a heterosexual sex symbol, based on some comments she made and her close relationships with out-lesbians
Don’t entirely know if this counts cause it is quite vague and honestly Argenti calls everyone and everything beautiful. But after finishing the trailblazer mission in Penacony there’s a world quest follow up where you work at the front desk and Argenti calls Boothill a rough exterior with a chivalrous and blazing heart and from what I remember he also calls him good looking at some point.
You know this was very interesting, i get tired off the shipping wars that often happen and when people make very obviously non queer characters queer, but these were all very well pointed out and the inspirations of them hinting at it while being hard to pick up by chinese media as well they wouldnt know about the inspirations that well either is actually very smart
In the last cutscene of the last Penacony story quest (with Sparkle bombs on the airship), I think, it was hella SUS to see Boothill playing Billiard with ARGENTI of all people 🤔 hmmmm I wonder...
Fellas, is it gay to play pool? I mean, you're literally using your ROD to hit BALLS that other people (mostly other dudes) hit with their ROD as well.
Thank you for this video! Sorry you have to deal with so many ignorant people in the comments. It's incredible how you even state that you'll be talking about implied content, and yet people start whining about how they won't believe it's canon unless Aventurine strips naked and declares his sexuality on screen (and let's be honest, even then they'd try to spin it).
I love how they labelled the bottles as "poor" and "rich" as to have a reason if suspicions were ever raised about the bottles being gay since people think they're weird 'together'
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE!! During the trailblaze mission, I forget which part, if you go to the lobby, there's a man wearing a pink suit with blonde hair, and if you wait long enough, you can hear this exchange between the NPCs NPC: "What do you want to do when you enter the dreamscape?" Pink Suit: "I want to be a cute girl" THAT IS JUST BLATANTLY WHAT THEY SAY
I was playing through penacony quest again on another acc and when I heard what sparkle said to aventurine I almost spit out my drink because I had actually listened to the dialogue. I am still so sad about HanuHail I hope they are together in peace in the afterlife.
you forgot sparkle flirting with black swan in her companion mission you can also check character voicelines and when talking about swan sparkle's voicelines are sus also march was gay panicking right in front if robin and siobhan ofc with robin it can be written off as march being a fan but siobhan? nah that was march's gay showing lmao also happy pride month !!
After Playing that quest where we become hotel lobby manager I will 100 percent said boothill and argenti are hell sus. To be fair argenti have rizz characters left and right (Aventurine, Dan Heng, and even our favorite punching bag yanqing is on this list)
Omg, I didn't even notice most of these due to not reading all of the collectables! This was truly an amazing in depth video and not just assuming without any info. I would like to add that when the Astral Express crew meets Kafka for the first time, the tension between Kafka and Himeko is quite interesting to say the least, but I believe that for the rest you got everybody :D
CAN I JUST SAY HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU AS A CONTENT CREATOR??? I ABSOLUTELY ADORED YOUR RENHENG VIDEO (AND CAN"T WAIT TO SEE WHAT VIDEO YOU'LL MAKE ONCE WE GET TO THE SHACKLING PRISON EXPANSION) AND I ADORE THIS VID MUWAH CHEF'S KISS!!!!
I would add Boothill to the list or at least his two dads. Anyway, there are few scenes, where he is not standing next to the more feminine coded men like Dan Heng, Aventurine or Argenti.
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I recently found out that Hoyoverse funds fusion reactors in China, so id take a guess and say THATS how they’re able to get so much gay stuff into the game without being arrested
yeah basically the government doesn’t care as long as they keep printing money and have plausible deniability-“just a typo”, “reading too much into it” etc
Something I didn't see in here, which you said in a comment is because you don't know if they're serious or not half the time, is the way Argenti calls everyone by their name but refers to boothill as "his silver cowboy."
OFF TOPIC BUT AVENTURINE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE HAPPY PRINCE??? help i feel kinda stupid for not noticing during the quest like.. something felt familiar but help it was pretty obvious 😭😭
A lot of ppl ship aventurine and topaz .they always mention the fact that in different languages aventurine calls topaz beautiful and that she might have a crush on him what do you think
So, what they're referring to is when Aventurine said Topaz was 人美心善 (literally person pretty heart benevolent). It's a phrase that emphasises someone is kind-hearted and is similar to the EN phrase 'lovely inside and out.' It's not used for flirtation and was rightfully translated into English 'kind-hearted' but people started spreading misinformation that Aventurine was flirting with her, wrong both as a translation and from the context that he called her that (mockingly in an argument).
There's also that moment during a sidequest where Boothill and Argenti show up to share a room at the hotel. There's a few questionable lines, not to mention the way they look at each other!
Just wanted to add that in the checking out quest in the portuguese version when you first encounter Argenti and Boothill, you ask them something like "where did this ship come from?" (literal translation: "And how did this unusual ship happen?") when you see them together wjlsiwiej i love penacony
“Graceful, entertaining, distinguished, yet dangerous… I’m just itching to bring someone like that down… but hey, her wrecking me… is totally on the table too” How is this an actual canon voice line? I mean valid, but Jesus Christ
This is one of the best gifts you can give queer HSR fans for Pride Month, and I sincerely and profusely thank you for it. 🌈❤️🧡💛💚💙💜 Argenti and Boothill also get a lot of...moments in 2.3. Hopefully it develops into something more direct. Argenti (messages): "Don't not be crass, My Silver Cowboy!" Argenti: "I met dear Boothill aboard the Radiant Feldspar... He surely was worthy of the Beauty's favor." Boothill: "Fork me, you can't just..." Cyborg Cowboy and Beauty Knight would be an interesting romance dynamic if ever.
I LOVE THIS!! Theres so many people who will do anything to ignore the queerness and ive spoken to people who literally think seele didnt like bronya and like captain (captainverse is just fanservice for degens bru)
i want to add miinee 🤚🤚 i do think Boothill is a metaphor for a trans person. The fact that he changes his name, got a whole new body, that his clothing is pretty revelant (a style that a lot of lgbt ppl wear to express themselves), that his poses are either feminines or overly masculine (a thing i do myself as a trans men, either i have feminine stances or overly masculine ones, i really like to menspread sometimes lol) and that in his lightcone, the doctor said to him "welcome to this world, once again" it quite litteraly express the fact that he came back as a changed person. Everything i said does relate to his trauma but it can also mean he's trans at the same time. It's only suppositions abt what i saw amd read but i really like this idea.
I think otherwise, from what i've known boothill acts that way due to his mechanized body limiting him to feel anything, he uses poses to make him feel himself alive and it is the only way to make him feel himself more human, even in a new body. your perception is plausible about him dont get me wrong, but I just think that they way he acts is just for him to humanized himself while taking the path of hunt.
@@saix_unicorn yeah. Maybe they used robocop as an inspiration to his story, cause it would make sense as robo-cop loses everything in his mechanized body and only to serve and eradicate evil, but this is just a theory of mine so its really up to people on how they interpret boothill.
Thank you Mikhail our gay ass Penacony founding crew member for making Penacony uber gay. 🛐
What a king his influence and culture was truly unmatched
“…we all say in unison”
Oh no... hes a disney gay
Thank you, Mik-gay-il
@anomaly9186 Nah, he's not a Disney inclusive character because he's white
You forgot about Sparkle constantly trying to get with Black Swan throughout their companion quest
Wasn't sure how to tackle characters like her and Argenti cause you can't be sure if she's being serious or not lol
@@LalodysLoreI think Argenti’s serious in the sense that everything he says is 110% sincere. Personally, it would mean the world to me if he was aromantic in one way or another.
@@LalodysLore Yeah I think with sparkle the whole companion quest just felt like an elaborate scheme to actually get under Black Swans skin. She probably thought Swan would be uncomfortable or bothered if she had a fan that was obsessed with her and kept singing her praises.
@@LalodysLore In Sparkle's voice line about Black Swan she says "Graceful, entertaining, distinguished, yet dangerous... I'm just itching to bring someone like that down, but hey, her wrecking me... is totally on the table too!"
@@bitvanbitesparkle just like me fr fr
The "lady as cool as Serval" scene killed me. I literally joked, "yeah, March, those are called lesbians" and then Siobhan said that shit!
Oh and don't to mention during aventurine pov inside his mind he likes to compliment male characters like woolsey as a hunk of a man
If he was just being charming he did NOT have to call him that in his own thoughts, likeee 🏳️🌈
if there isn't gay people is it really a hoyoverse game?
Tears of Themis: (Is it just me or are Otome games somewhat homoerotic lmaooo)
@@limgonnabeastar3320Kinda XD
After all Otome games are mostly like 10 or so guys living together without ever being in the presence of a girl, how do you expect them to fulfill their needs when alone? XD
(Excluding family)
@limgonnabeastar3320 Marius's secretary/assistant seems....very very happy to be of help iykyk
Also there have been characters in the stories other than the main 4 that act a bit fruity
Also like all the lawyers from the opposing law firm are at least a bit fruity
What a treat, that compilation of Aventurine gayest moments was gold, thank god hoyo brought the gayness from hi3 to star rail
When I first started planning this video I knew that I needed an Aventurine compilation at all costs ahahaha
@@LalodysLore how do you even choose which one is better, there are so many options
He is so gay. So blatantly gay and I love him
Lalody missed only one key, very gay moment, when Aventurine thinks a random hound dude is a "hunk of a man"
Sparkle and Argenti are Schrodinger's pride, we don't know what they are and we don't know what to take seriously
Argenti is serious about everything. However, seeing something as beautiful doesn’t appear to be necessarily romantic for him- unless March was right and he was actually flirting with a plant. 🪴
@@stephanieworkman5110 See that's the problem, if he calls everything he sees as beautiful beautiful where do we go hey maybe he means this romantically
@@Althedemonking1076 Idk he seemed VERY close with our good-ol' space cowboy, even to the extent unseen from Argenti's interactions with other characters
Honestly, with Sparkle, I just assume she’s trolling until proven otherwise.
@@stephanieworkman5110 yeah, as a pansexual I can see Argenti as one too
Woow. The IPC is a lot of things. I didn’t expect gay safe place on that list tbh
Intergalactic capitalist nightmare is LGBT+ positive, how fun
Maybe we should be more scared of the IPC HR department. 😅
Waiting for it to be revealed that Diamond is in fact, queer.
They follow preservation, not propagation
@@SnailSnail-lo4pm LMAO??????
Players to HSR: Wow this game has beautiful graphics and wonderful storyline i wonder how will the devs continue this?
HSR devs to HSR: OMG WE PUT SOOOO MANY LESBIANS IN THIS LETS SEE HOW MUCH CAN WE FIT IN THE NEXT
I haven’t seen that Himeko and Topaz clip before, I can’t believe it’s real and not something out of a fanfic 😭
I remember watching it live and being like ???????????
And that lady on the Herta Space station that will give you gossip in exchange for pics of Himeko
@@Wilmadiamond Serval's crazed stalker fan is also female
there was that one where ratio introduces aventurine as well that’s like… he got flustered lol, i love the special program inserts
edit: i think it was one of the aventurine character videos, like going over his playstyle, not the special program
@@softlybloomingoooh i remember that, Albert was telling Ratio that Aventurine mentioned him. And he was like: "so, er, what did he tell you about me" 😆
robin also says she wishes she could dance with blackswan in her voiceline abt her!
@carl2775 4 nickles, there are also Ely and Kiana from HI3. 🤣
@carl2775
don't forget Elysia with the original Mei, she was collecting GFs like they were pokemon cards 😭😭😭 (seriously, her lines with Eden, Aponia, and Mobius are insanely lesbian)
edit: oops i didnt notice that someone said it already, sorry about that lol
@@samanthot_ Well, the fandom doesn't call Elysia the Herrscher of Lesbianism for nothing lol
To add: In the Chinese version, There's also Owlbert blushing over Boothill threatening him in his Keeping up with Star rail program incomparison to the English version which has Owlbert scared of Boothill
The reason for this is that In Chinese, There's no swear words or to mix words with em, so what they did is they censored him with Flirtatious sentences like Baby, I love you- you get the point
Omgg I didn't know about the Owlbert stuff 😂
Aaaaaa Gaynacony you are iconic
It probably won't be anywhere near as long but there's a lot of juicy information!!
Honestly I think it's more difficult to find a straight paring in Honkai Star Rail than a gay one. I'm serious 😭
You're honestly right ahaha the only one I can take seriously is Arlan/Asta cause it feels like Arlan has a crush
True (also I feel like everytime I click on an hsr video I’m likely to find you,hello again)
What about MC and FIrefly?
@@williemherbert1456 that one counts as bi because of Stelle
Maybe soon, Yanqing and Yunli
It's wild how people will say hoyo is pushing Caelus x Firefly and proceed to ignore all other romatic subtext in the game and get mad at you for pointing it out 💀
Like people are STILL saying Ratio and Aventurine have nothing between them. The official Hoyoverse account literally got "The Final Victor" animated, anyone with half a braincell that watches that can see they have this weird love-hate sexual tension going on.
@@floofzykitty5072right? like if you’re gonna be homophobic at least be actually hateful and not just deny things that are clearly gay 🙄
People are still saying there isn’t any sexual tension in the black swan x acheron dance 😆, and think Jade is a mother figure to Topaz?? Am I missing something in the Chinese? Cause Jade doesn’t strike me as a mother figure to Topaz and Aventurine?
personally i think it’s hilarious that they specify CAELUS in all the official stuff when i played stelle and they kept all of the flirting in XD
@@MirandaWeaveri mean she talks about “setting a good example” for her and helping them out, but it always felt like an older sister thing, not parental at all
the aventurine and ratio quest is called double indemnity which has some crazy symbolism i think cause its the name of a movie where a woman double crosses her lover or something. would have to recheck but yeah
edit: there is an INCREDIBLY good dissection of the movie and its parallels to the scene in the quest in the replies they explain it far better than i ever could ⬇️⬇️
yep! double indemnity is about two lovers plotting to kill the wife's husband for insurance (hence the name), all the while acting like they don't know each other/aren't close. this puts ratio and aventurine into the roles of the conspirators (walter neff and phyllis dietrichson respectively) and the person they have to fool being sunday (mr. dietrichson) - they have to sell the act that they hate each other so ratio's "betrayal" seems believable to sunday
symbolism between double indemnity and aventurine/ratio actually runs…quite deep. just to fire through the ones off the most significant ones:
• the biggest and most obvious one is the final victor light cone being a direct reference to phyllis and neff's final scene together - from the character parallels to the composition (+ ratio gets a new outfit to match neff), etc etc. even the amount of gunshots is the same as the amount of blanks in the light cone (three). and between the two scenes, one starts a relationship (aventurine and ratio) and one ends a relationship (phyllis and neff, as phyllis gets shot twice)
• the main character parallels, like i said, are neff = ratio and phyllis = phyllis, though both ratio and aventurine take from BOTH leads, as aventurine is the one who actually cooked up the scheme (which is what neff does in the movie) and ratio is the accomplice (phyllis' role). there are other similarities like neff making a gambling metaphor that sounds incredibly like aventurine (which, by the way, in the book the movie is based on the same metaphor goes on for TWO WHOLE PARAGRAPHS), phyllis being a nurse and ratio being a medical doctor, and a bunch more (so much more that if i were to list them all here we would be here forever)
• the movie deals with a lot of double/crossings between… almost ALL the characters in one way or another (one reason as to why it's considered a quintessential film noir) and you can say the same thing for the sunday mansion mission, what with sunday sentencing aventurine to death, ratio's "betrayal", and aventurine slipping away with his cornerstone in the bag of gift money w/o sunday knowing
• there are a couple of other scenes in the movie that have parallels to the game (i.e the interrogation scenes between sunday-aventurine and when ratio and sunday talk vs the scene where phyllis gets questioned by the insurance company and (prior to that), the scene where neff gets mr. dietrichson to sign the policy with the double indemnity clause)
• not only do ratio-aventurine have parallels between neff-phyllis, they even share similarities to neff and barton keyes (intimate friends and co-workers, trust in one another, etc.)
• honestly there is so much you have to wonder how they got away with it. it's kind of insane
also fun fact, since double indemnity was made around the time when the hays code was in place (censorship under the guise of making films safe for the general audience), they had to get around the guidelines by rewriting dialogue laced with subtext (and changing the ending from the book)… now doesn't that sound slightly familiar
sorry for coming in with this by the way i see double indemnity mentioned in relation two ratio and aven and my brain immediately latches onto it and starts infodumping
(kind of unrelated? but it's so interesting to me how the two explicit romance movie refs for the two (this and spellbound) put ratio and aventurine into the roles of both the male AND female leads… i think about that a lot)
@@anominous-user That is so fucking genius holy shit
@@anominous-user Also doesn't that last part imply that they're switches, perhaps?
@@Ardorstorm that's what i like to think 🤚
@@anominous-user Nice
Maybe penacony is just a big pride parade
The himiko-topaz exchange 💀😭 thats crazy
I joined the game during 1.5 and i haven't done the belgaborg part 2 yet
For Mikhail and Hanunue, I like how Citizen Hanunue soundtrack's description is "Dear Mikhail: You provide prose poetry and I'll provide warfare"
LIKE THEY ALREADY DO THEIR VOWS 😭 idk guys i think that's so romantic
HELP ME THAT'S SO SWEET
the aventurine section had me on the floor it just went on and on and on (and the little comments certainly did Not help (positive))
anyway. i'd like to add that during heaven is a place on earth when aventurine talks to the bloodhound NPC he refers to him as a "hunk of a man" inside his own thoughts, and the way he talks to him is… Very different compared to the other NPCs ("as the most outstanding hound in Penacony…")
and while it's EN VO-only (and kind of unrelated)… woolsey is also voiced by ratio's VA (Jordan Paul Haro). make that what you will
Omfggg i forgot hunk of a man-
Aventurine doesn’t even need an explanation just look this man: 🏳️🌈🦚🎰
He has a fucking type I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
@@Blade69669seriously who ever think Aventurine is just a straight man can't be trusted with decisions lol
I think a better question is, which implied Star Rail couple ISN'T gay Lol
Good question. Or at least queer in some capacity
I had to look this up,only to realize almost everyone is infact queer coded in some way
I say the only obvious couple is Asta and Arlan.besides that everyone is queer or too busy to have say gex (rm for example)
himewelt and asrlan
@@majteczkijolantyHimewelt is kinda weird since Welt sees Himeko as his student..
@@serenitymercerYanQuing and the new character who is Blade niece ? Their older versions are married Im pretty sure.
Come to think of it, the Xinzhou characters barely have any romatic relationship references except Blade and Dan Feng I think. But that could change since its look like we coming back there soon.
im laughing already on the first one with the bottles- its such a direct message due to the pure ridiculousness of the situation (ofc, in an amazing way- absolutely loving hoyo humor) but its also indirect as you can just ignore and skip over that fact.
"Just moving _boxes."_ Curious.
Not gonna lie, I expected some baseless fanshipping but… This was really in-depth. Good job!
11:39 Something I think it's worth pointing out is that in the Portuguese translation of the game, lady is the only one of the "monsters" refered with she/her pronouns, while all of the others use he/him
You gave me the best pride month gift with my dear Aventurine and Robin here.
Honestly, I remember reading the 'Happy Prince' during High School, years ago, and being sure that the swallow and the prince were in some kind of metaphorical gay relationship but not knowing how I got that feeling or how to explain it. Knowing more about the author now, I couldnt be happier about it
i love hoyoverse's gay agenda
Bihility
I'm on the floor oh my god 😭
THE HIMEKO AND TOPAZ SCENE???? HELLO???
You mention Siobhan and Robin but not march who admired them both heavily (I wonder why), how could you forget the best lesbian girlfailure
she also gives me trans vibes. i don’t rlly have proof for this but for me the colors she wears, the fact that she doesn’t remember who she used to be and uses a different name now, and her frequent comments about what it means to be a girl/what cute girls like all feel very trans to me. i could totally be wrong and reading into things ofc
@@softlybloomingno she’s trans she told me so herself
@@chesspiece4257 so true
March is very bi, her admitting she found Jing Yuan handsome was cute. She seems to have a thing for popular/sparkling and calm people.
Prob bc of the penacony focus but yeah march is definitely some sort of multisexual (using this as an umbrella for people attracted to multiple genders if that's wrong lmk) and hardcore trans coded
ahh i love this channel so much... i was actually compiling a list of boothill's arguably gay lines, details, and moments when you uploaded this LOL. you may not believe this but theres a considerable amount of evidence there!
Omg I'd love to see the list haha!
@@LalodysLore it would be an honor to show you everything!!! not sure how i would go about sending the screenshots though...
You can message/tag me on Twitter!!! link is in description
the recent quest with boothill and argenti had me like 🤨
“i realized that this cold robot shell had a blazing hot, chivalrous heart. he surely was worthy of the beauty’s favor..” - argenti
boothill gets flustered in this exchange, saying stuff like
“fork me, you can’t just…”
and
“could you pipe down? for fork’s sake…”
as argenti continues to compliment him
Could you please do verlite? That npc guy in argenti quest @@LalodysLore
Here are a few other things I noticed:
While playing as Aventurine in the 2.1 quest, he meets one of the bloodhound members (I believe it was Woolsy), and in his internal monologue he calls him a hunk. Also during that same quest, Acheron and Welt sneak into the dewlight pavilion where they see Aventurine's shoe prints and Welt notes that they're "flamboyant".
Sparkle seems to have some weird obsession with getting BS's attention, specifically in the companion quest in 2.0.
Siobhan calls March a "pretty lady" and March gets excited.
There sre more but I don't feel like typing it out.
All I took from this was that Topaz has a big thing for older woman in positions of authority. Which, well...I'm not gonna blame her for aiming high.
I would like to mention a message sent by Sparkle at the end of "Farewell Penacony", where she tells us that "Dr.Primitive is a huge fan of bananas" lamo (a direct quote). "You know what? Actually..."
Yoo Fushi pfp 🥰🥰🥰
@@cloudine3218 💪💪💪
i would like to say that for number 4, it was stated that most of the stuff in there was made up for more people to buy the tabloid. but i agree with the rest
Yeah that one wasn't really about it being a real date, but rather that ppl were directly discussing homosexuality
@@LalodysLore im actually so glad theres theres homosexual rep in hoyo games, it makes me really happy as a lesbian ❤️
Robin’s connections with Marilyn Monroe also connect with LGBT themes!
The thing I ran into with Siobhan is that while sure, they definitely were going for lesbian vibes, I (a NonBinary/Trans-femme) got serious gender envy from her. The look combined with the deep voice really did it for me, one of the few masculine adjacent characters I can relate to in the aesthetics department (the deep voice really pushed it over for me).
Oh fuckin same. I'm usually more masc leaning but butch/masculine ladies give me hardcore gender envy. Like I don't wanna be a woman unless it's that kinda woman
Reading comments, you may need a part 2 Lalody 🤣
Boothill and Argenti alone will be 1/3 of the video.
Also if you put Acheron and Black swan together on a team they talk about dancing with each other again! Seems pretty fruity to me
Still hilarious to me that, bc the whole traumatic part of the trailer was just happening to black swan in acheron's head, she has no idea about it and is just like "yeah she was nice I wanna dance with her again"
Something else to mention about Robin is her reference to Marilyn Monroe, with the scene of her trying to prevent her skirt from being lifted by the wind. It's speculated that Monroe was a lesbian or bisexual (some also speculate asexual) despite her status as a heterosexual sex symbol, based on some comments she made and her close relationships with out-lesbians
Don’t entirely know if this counts cause it is quite vague and honestly Argenti calls everyone and everything beautiful. But after finishing the trailblazer mission in Penacony there’s a world quest follow up where you work at the front desk and Argenti calls Boothill a rough exterior with a chivalrous and blazing heart and from what I remember he also calls him good looking at some point.
You know this was very interesting, i get tired off the shipping wars that often happen and when people make very obviously non queer characters queer, but these were all very well pointed out and the inspirations of them hinting at it while being hard to pick up by chinese media as well they wouldnt know about the inspirations that well either is actually very smart
In the last cutscene of the last Penacony story quest (with Sparkle bombs on the airship), I think, it was hella SUS to see Boothill playing Billiard with ARGENTI of all people 🤔 hmmmm I wonder...
Fellas, is it gay to play pool? I mean, you're literally using your ROD to hit BALLS that other people (mostly other dudes) hit with their ROD as well.
"my silver cowboy"
4:50 this made me laugh so hard because when i first saw this video i thought it was going to be a 12 minute long picture of aventurine xD
I thought i was misinterpreting things, but your video really show how queer this Penacony patch has been.
Thank you for the video and happy pride.
your ability to pay attention to detail astounds me, my lil adhd brain just wouldn't do that lmao
Hoyo dropped the gayest dance scene and dipped thinking we wouldnt notice
Great, now I want to see the ice cream acrobatics show at the park
Wow, I knew Penacony was gay, but I didn't know it was THIS gay. Incredible.
LALODY’S LORE THANK YOU YESSS YOURE SO COOL
no u
@@LalodysLore no u!!!
Lady is actually referred to as a he, as well as the other monster that they were into. So even more gay!
That's my fav thing about Lady - literally no matter how you look at their situation, it's still very queer :D
We stan a somewhat confusingly gendered bisexual lady
Hoyo sponsored a video where in the background black swan and Acheron we're doing sesbian lex
Oh yea, i think i saw it
Had no idea about Mikhail being gay, gotta read hanue tales noww
Bruh Sparkle was thirsty af, especially her character lines about Black Swan
Thank you for this video! Sorry you have to deal with so many ignorant people in the comments. It's incredible how you even state that you'll be talking about implied content, and yet people start whining about how they won't believe it's canon unless Aventurine strips naked and declares his sexuality on screen (and let's be honest, even then they'd try to spin it).
I haven't seen many bad comments
I love how they labelled the bottles as "poor" and "rich" as to have a reason if suspicions were ever raised about the bottles being gay since people think they're weird 'together'
Nothing to see here hahaha
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE!!
During the trailblaze mission, I forget which part, if you go to the lobby, there's a man wearing a pink suit with blonde hair, and if you wait long enough, you can hear this exchange between the NPCs
NPC: "What do you want to do when you enter the dreamscape?"
Pink Suit: "I want to be a cute girl"
THAT IS JUST BLATANTLY WHAT THEY SAY
Bro wants to be a femboy
I was playing through penacony quest again on another acc and when I heard what sparkle said to aventurine I almost spit out my drink because I had actually listened to the dialogue.
I am still so sad about HanuHail I hope they are together in peace in the afterlife.
confirmed: Path of Trailblaze more like Path of GAYlblaze hahaaaaa I see myself out
2:01
THE CLOCKIE POSE WITH THIS TEXT HAS ME DYING 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
YAYYYY, going to start watching now but was so happy to see this pop up in my recommendations.
Hope everybody is having a great Pride ❤🎉
Aventurine also has Dorian Grey vibes. And thinking that he was based on real Oscar Wilde's lover makes it spicier with that Dr. Ratio's quote
you forgot sparkle flirting with black swan in her companion mission you can also check character voicelines and when talking about swan sparkle's voicelines are sus also march was gay panicking right in front if robin and siobhan ofc with robin it can be written off as march being a fan but siobhan? nah that was march's gay showing lmao also happy pride month !!
After Playing that quest where we become hotel lobby manager I will 100 percent said boothill and argenti are hell sus. To be fair argenti have rizz characters left and right (Aventurine, Dan Heng, and even our favorite punching bag yanqing is on this list)
5:11 she said "🏳️🌈?"
Interesting thing I noticed, the colors on the rainbow in Robin's trailer nearly are the colors of the gender fluid flag.
He was doing something on his knees alright
Omg, I didn't even notice most of these due to not reading all of the collectables! This was truly an amazing in depth video and not just assuming without any info. I would like to add that when the Astral Express crew meets Kafka for the first time, the tension between Kafka and Himeko is quite interesting to say the least, but I believe that for the rest you got everybody :D
0 mention of black swan x sparkle what are we doing
the color pallete theory is quite a stretch and has a lot of holes you could fall into
Personally, out of all these, Siobhan was the one that caught my attention the most
Honestly im happy that a chinese company allows things like these and im surprised theres a lot more gays then i realized. Good job on making this!
CAN I JUST SAY HOW MUCH I LOVE YOU AS A CONTENT CREATOR??? I ABSOLUTELY ADORED YOUR RENHENG VIDEO (AND CAN"T WAIT TO SEE WHAT VIDEO YOU'LL MAKE ONCE WE GET TO THE SHACKLING PRISON EXPANSION) AND I ADORE THIS VID MUWAH CHEF'S KISS!!!!
Ooh! I never knew some of these but this is amazing!! Also, yes more RenHeng crumbs please!
I would add Boothill to the list or at least his two dads. Anyway, there are few scenes, where he is not standing next to the more feminine coded men like Dan Heng, Aventurine or Argenti.
Boothill definitely has the ~vibe~ but afaik the two dads thing was a misunderstanding and Graey actually has a feminine name in CN.
@@LalodysLore Ah, interesting!
If i remember there was a world quest where a female NPC asked for pictures of himeko and said they would hang it up their wall
Its crazy how gay and catered for incels and waifu collectors this game can be at the same time
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I recently found out that Hoyoverse funds fusion reactors in China, so id take a guess and say THATS how they’re able to get so much gay stuff into the game without being arrested
yeah basically the government doesn’t care as long as they keep printing money and have plausible deniability-“just a typo”, “reading too much into it” etc
Sound about right
hearing aventurine lines again and somehow they sound more gay than the first time, istg im blushing whats wrong with him
it's also interesting that the 2.6 story is also about creative freedom, and Hoyo has been pushing the limits of the restrictions
you might have this out for script reason but theres a light cone with achron and black swan that the VAs read and called a fanfic
Something I didn't see in here, which you said in a comment is because you don't know if they're serious or not half the time, is the way Argenti calls everyone by their name but refers to boothill as "his silver cowboy."
OFF TOPIC BUT AVENTURINE WAS A REFERENCE TO THE HAPPY PRINCE??? help i feel kinda stupid for not noticing during the quest like.. something felt familiar but help it was pretty obvious 😭😭
I dont understand how I never noticed the colors of the dots on Robins face OMG!
A lot of ppl ship aventurine and topaz .they always mention the fact that in different languages aventurine calls topaz beautiful and that she might have a crush on him what do you think
So, what they're referring to is when Aventurine said Topaz was 人美心善 (literally person pretty heart benevolent). It's a phrase that emphasises someone is kind-hearted and is similar to the EN phrase 'lovely inside and out.' It's not used for flirtation and was rightfully translated into English 'kind-hearted' but people started spreading misinformation that Aventurine was flirting with her, wrong both as a translation and from the context that he called her that (mockingly in an argument).
@@LalodysLore oh thanks 😊
There's also that moment during a sidequest where Boothill and Argenti show up to share a room at the hotel. There's a few questionable lines, not to mention the way they look at each other!
Just wanted to add that in the checking out quest in the portuguese version when you first encounter Argenti and Boothill, you ask them something like "where did this ship come from?" (literal translation: "And how did this unusual ship happen?") when you see them together wjlsiwiej i love penacony
HAPPY PRIDE MONTH🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉‼️‼️‼️‼️ I am a little surprise there’s no mention of Sparkle’s very unashamed flirting towards blackswan
“Graceful, entertaining, distinguished, yet dangerous… I’m just itching to bring someone like that down… but hey, her wrecking me… is totally on the table too”
How is this an actual canon voice line? I mean valid, but Jesus Christ
I’m just here for the other Siobhan lovers.
The design, the EN VA. 🥵
i want to mention that siobhan shares an english VA with genshin's xiao, thats weirdly hilarious
She gives me hardcore gender envy
@@legayshianimated She WHAT
When argentine and boothill came together in penacony. They are so sus... 🤣🤣🤣
bruh who on Penacony isnt gay at this point
They are all straight actually
very well done! ❤
Thank you! 😊
Slightly unrelated but thanks for the subtitles 👍
This is one of the best gifts you can give queer HSR fans for Pride Month, and I sincerely and profusely thank you for it. 🌈❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
Argenti and Boothill also get a lot of...moments in 2.3. Hopefully it develops into something more direct.
Argenti (messages):
"Don't not be crass, My Silver Cowboy!"
Argenti: "I met dear Boothill aboard the Radiant Feldspar... He surely was worthy of the Beauty's favor."
Boothill: "Fork me, you can't just..."
Cyborg Cowboy and Beauty Knight would be an interesting romance dynamic if ever.
I LOVE THIS!! Theres so many people who will do anything to ignore the queerness and ive spoken to people who literally think seele didnt like bronya and like captain (captainverse is just fanservice for degens bru)
i want to add miinee 🤚🤚
i do think Boothill is a metaphor for a trans person. The fact that he changes his name, got a whole new body, that his clothing is pretty revelant (a style that a lot of lgbt ppl wear to express themselves), that his poses are either feminines or overly masculine (a thing i do myself as a trans men, either i have feminine stances or overly masculine ones, i really like to menspread sometimes lol) and that in his lightcone, the doctor said to him "welcome to this world, once again" it quite litteraly express the fact that he came back as a changed person. Everything i said does relate to his trauma but it can also mean he's trans at the same time. It's only suppositions abt what i saw amd read but i really like this idea.
I think otherwise, from what i've known boothill acts that way due to his mechanized body limiting him to feel anything, he uses poses to make him feel himself alive and it is the only way to make him feel himself more human, even in a new body. your perception is plausible about him dont get me wrong, but I just think that they way he acts is just for him to humanized himself while taking the path of hunt.
@@Paul-vv5ql i've seen this theory around but it's never been comfirmed, it can be both tho
@@saix_unicorn yeah. Maybe they used robocop as an inspiration to his story, cause it would make sense as robo-cop loses everything in his mechanized body and only to serve and eradicate evil, but this is just a theory of mine so its really up to people on how they interpret boothill.
@@Paul-vv5ql imo there can be more than one interpretation that could be true
@@saix_unicorn agreed
This video nearly gave me a heart attack (/pos) I had no idea it was THIS gay
aventurine... constantly making me laugh with whatever hes doing...just like sampo
I new this but I’m still screaming…..
gay screaming
i dont really read most of this stuff so this is pretty neat to find out