How Twenty One Pilots Write A Melody | The Artists Series S1E4
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2017
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Why do we identify with Twenty One Pilots? Is it just a couple of songs that we hum on our way to work or is there more to it? Put another way, is music just a recreational activity or does it influence us, shape us, guide us?
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I really enjoy your approach. Even music that does not resonate with me is art. That art is the reflection of someone's inner self. The music that resonated with me as a kid made me feel understood and normal at a time when I felt awkward and misunderstood. I see that happening now with my children. Two of my daughters are teens, ones loves TOP and another MCR because it gives expression to their innermost feelings. These are not my favorite groups because they do not resonate as much with me at this point in my life. But parents need to learn that music is not always, in fact not usually, a medium that intends to send dark messages to our kids and ruin them. It is rather one soul speaking to another through an artistic medium. Music is the search for clarity, for meaning, for comfort, for hope. Your analysis of how that happens from a more objective point of view, will hopefully not only be a good mental exercise, but also serve to break some barriers, especially among the older set who tend to ignore or dismiss what is really resonating with their kids and grandkids. The fact is, its just easier to be lazy and not try to understand. As life changes, so do musical choices. We follow and listen to that which best resonates with our soul at the time. Parents should learn what their kids are listening to and why. They may find out more about their kids through those choices than they will through direct communication. Thanks again for the channel. Great analysis.
Thank you for this beautiful comment, Rick! My feelings exactly! :)
I quote every word, this channel is definitely awesome.
Wow, what agreat comment. You seem to be a good dad
That's kind of you. I hope so
you sound like an awesome dad
'Popular' songs make me feel like I'm not good enough, I'm not rich enough, I'm not old enough, I haven't experienced enough. twenty one pilots make feel like I mean something, know that I have a purpose, that I'm loved. Listening to them, I feel safe, like I'm going to be okay.
this comment is a blessing ive always wanted to explain this but i ever had the words to phase it but you have . thank u |-/
:::xieramanda it's okay fren, have a really good day |-/
+Ash Tries Life to you too love . stay alive
+Ash Tries Life i also noticed you watch isabelle hyde shes my fav (:
Ash Tries Life try the song "im not famous" by ajr because its the exact opposite XD
Oops I guess I'm an angsty teenager...
Oops me too
Maybe
boi i see u everywhere
Aren't we all
Same
Thank you for talking about popular music in an intellectual way. A lot of people dismiss artists like Twenty One Pilots because most of their fans are angsty teenage girls. They say TOP is garbage because this target audience can't POSSIBLY enjoy good music, and that's why [insert genre here] is soooo much better. That's also a reason that angsty teenagers like TOP; their interests are dismissed by a lot of people, and Twenty One Pilots seems to hear (and respect) them.
My feelings exactly. Thank you! :)
I think My Chemical Romance is similar in that respect. They are often dismissed as angsty "emo" pop. Now that 4 out of 5 members have done solo projects, the influences are easier to hear.
Thanks, I'm A Broken Person, glad a real Twenty One Pilots fan enjoys this video as well :)
My daughter, who is 13, LOVES TOP!! She decided to learn the drums and piano because of them. Her piano is slowly getting there but her drum playing is awesome!!! I don't officially listen to them, I'm afraid that she'll stop listening to them, LOL but I really like them. I think that Tyler may be another musical genius. After losing Prince, it's nice to know that there is still hope for music.
I've known twenty one pilots from the start since I live close to the Columbus OH area. And I'm a 21 year old man. lol
if your looling for deep twenty one pilots songs listen too taco bell saga
Panicking disco balls fat airport ladys I agree that is one of the most underrated deep songs ever heard
Omg you're Shane Dawson username reference is everything 😂😂
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Panicking disco balls fat airport ladys I was going to write an agreement to your comment but then I read your username and now I'm just over her laughing, ok bye I will go now
Coconut Sharks in the Water is realllly deep as well guys (and yES that username sHAAANE)
Panicking disco balls fat airport ladys YES
Panicking disco balls I think I burst a blood vessel laughing at this
*vessel*
Sorry
This is so so interesting. I've seen a lot of "theories about twenty one pilots songs/music" and it just doesn't seem like those people really research the facts. Not only do you provide really interesting facts, you also look at the music in a different, more emotional way. You don't prejudice anything or anyone. You understand the purpose of their music; it's not just there to entertain others and make the band more well known, it's there to help others. Thanks for making this video.
And thank YOU for this lovely comment
Holistic Songwriting This. UA-cam is full of subjective content. It's extremely nice to see someone who's more objective and lays it out without adding a spin to it. Keep it up!
^^ agreed! I think we need a little more openess when it comes to art.
I agree with these comments and, while, I know you're just the messenger, the trope of an angsty teen hurts. No because I am one, but because I am a middle aged man, not depressed, but life is hard and we're all battling fear, regardless of age, race, class, gender, or type of struggles. I'm also not Christian, however, the Christian guy that clearly battles depression is one of the realist artists I've heard since my Pink Floyd, Lenard Cohen, Ray Lamontage, U2, DC Talk, MCR, John Lennon, Fiona Apple, Bright Eyes, Brand New, Death Cab days. TOP put all my all-time favorites in the far backseat. Those bands are still wonderful to me, however, there's thoughts like "What was I listening to before that haven't I experienced music on this level until this band? Are artists holding back or are these smol beans truly anomalies?". The relatablity of Tyler's lyrics, along with their musical talent (that could stand alone), makes up the most incredible music I've yet to hear. They've influenced me and my daughter (not an angsty teen) leagues more than any band has prior or since. We later became huge fans of Grouplove and Imagine Dragons but, absolutely nothing touches our lives, hearts, or ears like Twenty One Pilots..... "That's all have to say about that".
What a wonderful video, not at all judgemental, with a genuine interest in their music and an important message at the end. And I kind of expected him to make fun of their "angsty teenager" fans but he actually took this serious wow thank you so much, I'm gonna subscribe
I'm actually really worried about people making fun of angsty people - only strengthens their belief they don't belong. The fact that my treating these "angsty teenagers" as regular people (which I think is just being a good person) has lead so many people to comment really worries me.
Yes unfortunately it's very common to make fun of people who'd identify as "angsty teenagers". A lot of them also deal or have dealt with mental health issues and I guess many who have never been in that situation simply can't understand them and think they're just "overly dramatic"... idk but it's good to see that not everybody's like that and thanks a lot for replying and the pin :)
you put it perfectly. i could not have explained it without being viewed as triggered. mind if i quote you on this?
If you meant me, sure :)
Leah just in case you meant me thank you and of course :)
I remember Tyler telling us fans to use the energy, the depressive and dark energy that sadness brings, and direct it to something else. Create
I think twenty one pilots makes me stay alive, and reasons I should stay alive
Please do. Whatever you're going through right now, you will get through it and life only gets better from here. Imho you have two options: Get comfortable and risk that your future looks like today OR make small steps towards a happier life. Don't dismiss this as becoming ignorant or naive. I am fully aware that the world is a shitty place. Just realize that you're a part of this world and you have the power to change it - with your music or a UA-cam video. Humbly giving to other people is the greatest gift you can make to yourself.
twenty one pilots give me unlimited reasons to stay alive!
I'm a smøl bean Stay alive fren |-/ ❤️
I'm a smøl bean Me too
I'm a smøl bean I dont think i should stay alive.
this video is a piece of art and should be on a museum for future generations to contemplate
Thank you Laís! I try ;)
Twenty One Pilots have fans from all age groups not just little girls......which there is nothing wrong with that at all. I just want to say their fan base spans a lot further than that if you just look around. l-/ stay alive
Hey Carrie, you're absolutely right - I would call myself a fan as well and I don't consider myself an angsty teenager :) The question I asked in the video was "Who is my BIGGEST fan?", not "Who could be my fan?"
Definitely, I mean, just look at the guy in yellow at 0:45
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"Sundays are my suicide days" isnt a reference to actual suicide. Tyler is a Christian. This line refers to something Paul wrote about in many of his books. Dying to your sin. It is a metaphorical suicide.
Wow I didn't know that, that's really cool!
Huh, that makes a lot of sense...
Nice
Nice
I honestly thought this was a really good video! It's so difficult to find people who can speak about this band professionally, while also appreciating and respecting them as musicians. I see you've done your research, and I've learned a lot more than I anticipated.
Very well done and thanks for the video!
Thanks so much Naomi :)
thank you for such an intellectual video. twenty one pilots' lyrics have made me think, and have allowed me to get to a better place in life. they make songs about things that nobody wants to talk about (anxiety, depression, all that dark stuff) and put it in the spotlight. they really are two amazing guys.
You should do a video about Panic! At the Disco :D
I agree, but its a little harder cause they've changed so much.
I agree with that, but one thing I think has stayed the same is the meaning behind their lyrics :)
Wouldn't work and your points don't add up. Brendon hasn't fully written a lot of songs. Ryan wrote most, almost all of the earlier albums and if you look at the track listings from any album past "Pretty. Odd.", you'll see that he's not the main writer, sometimes not one at all.
I didn't explain it exactly correctly. I meant that there is a meaning behind most of the lyrics, not that they all have the same meaning. I also didn't specify that Brendan write all of the songs. And in an interview, he even states that Pretty Odd. was actually well, pretty odd haha. I would also say that making one about Twenty One Pilots isn't exactly the easiest thing in the world due to how diverse they sound. House of Gold and Stressed Out sound nothing alike, but they still made a video on them :) In the end, if they can do a video about Twenty One Pilots' lyrics, I'm sure a Panic! At the Disco one can be made :D
Marchi I hate panic at the disco.
with tyler the simplest things have a really deep meaning to it
i'm curious if they keep this things in mind when writing or if all of this just happens naturally for them
I'd love to ask them! One of the many reasons I hope that the artists see these videos. :)
They obviously keep this things in mind.
Margarita Babovnikova what makes it so obvious to you tho?
Okay, let say it this way: _Every professional musician is familiar with the songwriting "secrets" that these video series is mentioning_.
oh okay idk i always thought they'd just do what feels right for them
Helping people to stay alive and fight inner demons is such a good reason to write some music, right?
Thank you so much, please keep bringing us your accurate point of view - made my day.
Angst or depression being catalysts for creativity is brought up in the Trench song Nico and the Niners "I'm lighter when I'm lower, I'm higher when I'm heavy."
I just love their stuff. I feel like the darkness and lightness contradicting each other is a direct metaphor for who we are externally vs internally. The contradicting darkness and lightness of their music makes me feel a mix between hopefulness, vulnerability, and sympathy (like someone having sympathy towards me). It makes me feel like I'm not alone in what I'm going through and that someone is there for me. It's quite unlike anything else and has gotten me through some of the worst times of my life. So many of their songs make my start crying so much, and I love it because it actually calms me down.
"Life indeed has an undertone" I loved that part. Great vid!
Been waiting for this! Thank you❤
And please change the description of "21pilots" to "twenty one pilots" because some clique members will be triggered 😂
Done - thanks :)
Roshan Rr xD
Holistic Songwriting lower cased... not being picky, just trying to help 🙂
Charlie Love
it doesn't matter at all how anyone types it.
Charlie Love it doesnt actually matter if it's lower cased... who gives a crap
I was depressed and suicidal some years ago, i'm 15 and Tøp helped me so much through it all. I started listening to them in 2013 so it's some years ago but I still love them both so, so much. I now want to live my life all thanks to them.
I appreciate that you actually do your research to truly understand them and their music
"The band calls their fans the skeleton cleeeeke." I died.
TEC1 SAME
But now, Tyler refuses to acknowledge the skeleton cleeeeeeke
Taylor Swift, The Weeknd, Ed Sheeran and now Twenty-One Pilots!💃🙌Really hoping Bruno is next!🙏
This is both the most easily understandable and deepest study of the musician - image - songwriting choices relationship I've ever seen. Bought your book, can't wait to read it, great work man!
I love how well thought out this video was.
Thank you so much!! I absolutely love these videos. I'm trying to implement this stuff as much as possible to expand my horizons. I'd love to see you cover Grace VanderWaal. She's only 13 and somehow her songs speak to everyone. She seems to have a very different sound from every other pop star and I'd love to see you dive deeper into how she does it! Thanks again, these are really helpful :) I'm looking forward to the next one.
Grace has popped up several times already - getting more and more likely :)
hi HS, " several times". it actually is the 11th, at least... :-)
angst teenager: realist, fascination for death, self-critical *me* whoops
I also really love this video it helps give even more meaning an understanding to their music than what I already have. ❤|-/
LOVE what you're doing. Please don't stop.
This is by far the coolest thing I've seen in a while, especially that I understand what your talking about
'Twenty One Pilots doesnt shy away' he predicted it
Do Mariah Carey please! She wrote the melodies and lyrics for most of her hits and follows a template with a number influences. :)
Yes! I'd like Mariah Carey next as well, and also take a look at how she writes when working with Walter Afanasieff, Babyface or Jermaine Dupri... If I am right, those are the top 3 co-writters that appear on her songs.
Yess! I love Mimi!
One of my favorite bands, and you did a good job of pulling from a variety of songs, my favorite being Migraine. Very good analysis man, this is fast becoming one of my top favorite channels (I should use that word favorite more often).
Extremely well done video, was surprised by how in-depth you went. Well done.
how does this video not have more views! This will definitely help when I'm trying to play certain songs on my clarinet! Thanks!
Glad it helps :) And good luck with your clarinet playing!
Panic! At the disco please!! I really enjoyed your video ^^
The quote at the end though! So inspired! Thanks so much for making these videos. I can't wait to start working with you!
Wow! This is a great video, not only about the music of 21 Pilots, but also about making music in general. You really inspired me when you said: "music doesn't care if you are broken". There is something so comforting about knowing that great music can come from the best and the worst of times. It's always there for you and won't desert you. Thanks man! You made my evening!
Do "How Drake's ghost writers write a Melody" next.
Good one :)
Please do Alt-J !!! That'd be so interesting!
Agreed :)
Cool :)
You’re a living genius mate, you see things so deep and clear. I admire your mind clarity and broad pallet of thoughts you put in each video, and also the amount of intellectual work here is fenomenal. Thank you for sharing such a priceless content with us! It won’t go without use for sure!
Thank you so much for these videos. It really gets my mind thinking about how today's music works; it shows there's still artistry going on and you've given me a new lens to see our modern artists through. Thank you so much.
1:05
*TRIGGERED*
Salty Lemon omg
lol same xD
omg yess xD
Please do Paramore!
Hey man, I really like the way you break these subjects down. The professional and the personal. I'm learning a lot! Thx.
The message at the end was so inspiring, thank you
Do John Mayer, the legend himself
+Viktor Ceder His melodies are tied strongly to his guitar chords and melodies/riffs... lots of root note I'd assume. Wouldn't mind seeing a vid on that as well.
Yes, please, I love John Mayer's music
He's done John Mayer's songs.
This comment you're seeing is on episode 4, and he did it on episode 5, sometimes people ask something it's been done, but this is not the case duh
The mean reason why I love tøp:
It's not like other songs. Whatsoever.
It's not about love, drugs, break ups, or sexual actions.
It's about your psyche and thoughts that harass you.
It makes you realize that you're thoughts are the point of view in your own life. As if you're the secondary character.
...or not idk it really puts you in that perspective. or just me. it gives me a rlly good set of mind but it's also a v dark place.
This is absolutely amazing. Keep making these videos!
Great Video and an even better breakdown of the way songs are written!!
I know why I like twenty one pilots. One - I like rap songs Two - I like dark things and I get called creepy Three - I have been called an emo even though Idk if I am Three - I like singing and rapping
You said three twice
xXMilk&CookiesXx tøp isn't dark or creepy but sometimes they can be a little dark and they aren't only rap but I love tøp too
I know it's not entirely creepy but it makes me be called creepy... I know it's wrong. I understand your valid point.
Pete Fredrickson 😂😂 Sorry
xXMilk&CookiesXx sorry if that hurt your feelings
Do EMINEM please
That would be awesome. But I do think he has changed style quite a lot from My Name Is to Not Afraid
Love this channel... Great analysis! It's amazing how simple songwriting is if you can just remember all the things you learned at the moment of writing the song. So much to consider! Ximre's session player talks about general beginner writing ideas and...
these videos are just golden. LOVE YOU AND THANK YOU 💖
panic! at the disco please!!
I think you missed a point in terms of their changing image, in Fairly Local there's a line that goes "Tomorrow we'll change the beat/ to avoid yesterday's dance." I feel this shows they don't want to become boring or just follow one formula, as doing, or watching or listening to someone doing the same thing over and over becomes boring
The best of your videos yet! And your message at the end is very true and very inspirational!
Thanks again, and again, and again...
this made me appreciate them even more, thank you for the breakdown
This is actually really well put together. Your calm voice meshes well with the over all theme of the video, and sets a great base tone just from the first few words spoken. Its quite obvious that you like TØP, and put a lot of work and care into cultivating this video. Over all it was an absolute joy to watch, and I will definitely be checking out your other (hopefully) high quality content. As a member of the clique I as expecting the some of the (sadly) low res. content that we of the clique produce, just from the thumbnail alone, in the end I was pleasantly surprised. My only from of critique *is* the thumbnail, it looks very bland and clickbait-y which is the exact opposite of hat the actual content is and gives the wrong message. Anyways, I should probably get going to your other content. See you friend, and Stay Alive |-/
Thanks PipIup :)
Holistic Songwriting Oh holy heck I didn't think you'd reply! Thank you. :)
whoever has made twenty one pilots one of or their only reason to stay alive i am with you
stay safe, stay strong, stay alive, stay street xx
what a channel...... I've always had trouble writing interesting progressions but your videos adds hope to my struggling music career. thank you.
DAMN how have you only got 8k! You should at least have 1mil man, I'll stay with you all the way to see you rise👍
Wow I'm the living breathing definition of your interpretaion of an Angsty Teen
Great video, thank you! I hope you make one on Ryan Tedder :) Did you hear his latest song, No Vacancy?
a Ryan Tedder video would be very interesting!
MrBurningvolcano how about OneRepublic in general,not just Ryan?
YeeBoi 69 Just OneRepublic would be cool too, I only offered Ryan because he is writing for a lot of pop artists out there, as well as OneRepublic, and I think he has a recurring handwriting in that, which would be interesting to explore and inspire from :)
What a great video! Really interesting, really cool take on the whole TOP vibe. Loved it!!
Amazing content and production! Highly enjoy your breakdowns. Respect!
The 'angsty teenager' realist, fascination about death, self-critical
aaaaannndddd there i am!
It's funny how I love TOP and I'm 24. I'm not angsty, but something about them just CLIQUES with me. ;) See what I did there? But yeah, I needed this band when I was a teenager.
This really gave me another outlook at the possibilities of my writing. Thank you.
Great work, thank you.
And the last reference was unexpected but true.
Thanks for showing that those artists, who became so famous are true geniuses in what they are doing. Because the music is popular but special for every person who understands the lyrics at the same time plus the music is different, unique
Do Gorillaz!
twenty one pilots want us to stay alive, there are no rules to that.
Great analysis. I have been listening to twenty one pilots since three years and I still find the lyrics and melody that fits my mood perfectly.
**Subscribed**
Thanks so much for doing this videos!! I'm learning a lot here and I love your approach. Keep going!!!
Do Panic! at the disco
Do panic! At the disco next 😁
These videos are very well done. Interesting analysis, I enjoyed this more than I thought I would.
the aproach to the music on the videos are on point
Please do Lana Del Rey!!
I have no idea if Bruno Mars has written any sings on his own, I know he has co-written songs, but maybe it would be interesting to analyse his writting if there *are* songs after all that are entirely his own. Just a suggestion though, I don't know how that could be made possible
Infernal Cookie Bruno Mars actually writes all of his songs, and first broke into the industry as a songwriter. I'd love to see a video on him as well. He's changed a TON from Just The Way You Are to 24k Magic. So that would be really interesting to learn about.
Didn't he co-write just the way you are? And I'm pretty sure he didn't write 24k magic on his own either. The evolution of his songs though can be heard in the way the sound is not entirely different, so maybe he writes them mostly on his own...I don't know. Maybe you are right.
Infernal Cookie I'm sure his biggest hits have had co-writers. Tyler Joseph is the only songwriter that I know of right now that writes chart-topping hits entirely on his own. I do know Bruno is very much in control of the process, though, and dictates what he wants his songs and albums to sound like. He fits my definition of a songwriter, just from what I've read and heard about him, but it's almost impossible to know who carried most of the load on a song when there are multiple writers credited. I've always seen him in the same light as Taylor, Ed, and Adele, as someone who writes 99% of the stuff he puts out.
I guess the other side of it is someone like Beyoncé, whose songs all list (literally) around 20 co-writers, and sometimes she isn't credited at all. That to me is not a songwriter.
Yeah because we can't know how much of each song is his own personality, his character, his soul I said it might be hard or even impossible to analyse his songs the way tøp's, taylor's and the weeknd's songs were analysed. He is definitely a songwriter but I think it might be hard to analyse his songs personality-wise as it happened with the previous artists. Maybe they won't be as cohesive in style (I couldn't know by ear because unfortunately I have 0 music knowledge)
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL. I've always thought lyrics and how they are said in songs should be given more attention. I enjoy this a lot.
this is the best video that youtube has ever recommended me. I love the way you deliver the facts and your personal opinion without forcing anything or offending anyone, and for this interesting approach to twenty one pilots music. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thank you so much for this beautiful comment Periwinkle Melody, means a lot to me - shows me that you get what I'm trying to do with this :)
I love these boys.|-/
Milky Chance please :)
I'm continuing songwriting and your channel will help a lot! Thank you!
Thank you for putting out these videos!!!
Twenty Øne Piløts is the reason why I'm alive |-/
Chelsea Padilla-Ho |-/ I'm here fam
Please do Mariah Carey. She's one of the most prolific singer-songwriters, and has even crafted a modern Christmas classic. Give us some insight into her timeless melodies.
Certainly a challenge :) She has done so much. Maybe :)
yet in fact there is a bunch of videos about Mariah's hits, especially holiday songs.
What a lovely video , I wholeheartedly hope you can keep uploading such quality content.
I really needed to hear these words at this precise moment, thank you so much dude!.
im kinda sad cause im the only kid in my class that has dark humor
0:32 Twenty Øne Pine nuts
Ha! Missed that one - good ears ;)
IVe been looking and needing this for a long time, thanks for a great series
Keep up this quality and I'm sure your channel will go far.
could you please do lana del rey?
teen lioner yeeesssss
Just referencing something for myself to practice my incapable hearing..
4:12 ... 4:21
I can only distinguish the difference when I pretend I kinda hear the difference so my brain convinces me that I did hear different... help
Brilliant video! I'm beyond impressed.
This is what an intelligent, constructive and logical person would sound like, I'm totally subscribing!