Found the concept of frequency related sub mixes really interesting. Definitely going to start using that technique. Thank you so much for sharing, great to see you again!
Where have you been .The savior of MPC KNOWLEDGE glad to see a new video. Been trying to use your presets and edit them to learn more on my sonics and sound manipulation. Glad to have you back .
Yesss! Another great Conan video. I love using mix buses, but the layout of the mixer inside the MPC frustrates me sometimes when using submix buses. Patiently waiting for MPC3 which tackles that problem for me. Keep making these gems!!!
I started using submixes for live jams to keep a standard template for use with my external MIDI controller but having done that it ended up as my default template.
That’s by far the most usable content when it comes to use this Device for serious pre production or even production. I have to say that, sometimes I really don’t need to use much more processing than the mpc and Force offers. I had projects that feels like they sounding a lot thinner when being stemmed out to DAW. I also have noticed that i get a very different Waveform when export the Mixdown from mpc than i get with exporting unprocessed from DAW, so it should look the same in sum but i doesn’t. I’ve noticed that on the Force and the X SE. And I don’t have any normalisation turned on in my DAW.
I try and stay in the habit of having every track I bounce out to my DAW as close to -6db as I can, that way I have a reference point and I am used to how things sound at that level. By rights, when something is bounced out from the MPC it should be exactly the same in the DAW, but you are not the first person I have heard that says things sound different. There are quite a few differentials to take into account including interfaces, amps, converters etc, but fundamentally the file should be the same if there is no additional processing on it when it is bounced.
Been learning to use submixes recently and didnt knew about route , that makes it so much quicker. I was doing it sound for sound/track on the main screen.
Another really superb and confidence giving video. As a very non pro producer and incredibly amateur musician starting to explore Sub Mixes I didn't really have the foggiest about how to use them but put kick on 1, snare on two & bass on another but that is as far as I got..... Its great to know I was kind of on the right track. I am a little confused about how sends now..... How would you commonly use sends & subs together or would you do one or the other?? What is also inspiring for me is that you are obvs a pro with experience with proper desks like SSL etc but you still choose to use an MPC. I have had mine for a few years now but was starting to use it less, I wondered whether it was actually getting in the way for me. I have found that some elements of the workflow slow me down a lot & considered getting shot of it however, when I listen back to the blips & beats I have made I realise I much prefer the sound of the stuff I make on the MPC way more than stuff I do on the DAW so obviously decided to persevere. I am well excited about the 3.0 software as it actually seems to address many of the things I struggled with....... Which is another reason I will hang on to it. Many thanks again for your insight
You’re welcome mate. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Personally I use sub mixes as mix busses and the sends I will use for send effects like reverb etc.
Come back from work, loaded up MPC software and saw a new video from one of the most informative and humble content creators living. HAPPY DAYS. Hi Conan, (hope this question makes sense) what's the difference between putting individual inserts on individual pads in a drum program and exploding a drum program and sending the separate tracks to the sub mixes for individual control. With the workflow you demonstrated is it for organisation and grouping frequencies together when mixing?
Hey buddy, thank you for your kind words. Regarding your question, there’s no right or wrong way to do things and nothing wrong with the method you described. It’s all about personal workflow and what works for you. I prefer to be one of those “UA-camrs” who inspires people to think out of the box rather than “My way is the right way etc”. I use this submix method of bussing in my mixes because it helps me keep things organized and can create more overall cohesion in a mix. Think of submixes as a broad stoke way of processing and the method you described as more surgical and exact. Both have their place.
This is super informative and helpful, thank you. My only hesitation to bouncing my submixes rather than individual stems for mixing in the DAW/for mix engineer, is if any of the individual elements, e.g. a loud vocal, quite synth etc needs rebalancing. Curious what you think of this, I guess in this case the best option is to make sure they are mixed right before bouncing! Less options for post though?
There’s no right or wrong really. With stems, yes you’d need to make sure they’re mixed down properly, but it’s more about making the decision on what to include in a stem. A pad and lead synth might seem like a good idea, but it’s not. It’s the same with a stem that has both lead vox and backing vox. Ultimately though, when I get sent stems, if I really need the multitracks instead, nowadays it’s not such a ballache for the artist to go back and bounce them. Some clients send stems and full multis.
Awesome Video. Love this way but what about referencing? I remember you using the sub mixer for referencing your mix and reference track. How can I use this way to reference my mix?
This is a good video. Will you be switching over to 3.0 once ot releases? I am looking forward to it, but I hear some people don't like the change. What do you think?
I haven’t used it yet. I’ll definitely be trying it out. I’m lucky that I have a One and a Live 2, so I’ll probably have 3.0 on one of them and keep 2.0 on the other. People generally don’t like change. The real issues will start when they release plugins that only work on 3.0.
Is there a way to bounce the submix and separate tracks within it? Or am I using submixes wrong? I created a submix and assigned 3 programs to it so I can add the same effect to all 3 programs at once, and now I want to export them as wavs separately but keep the effects on them. the usual exporting ways don’t seem to work for me. Anyone know?
@@hotpancakes9814 hey mate, I would suggest using a Return Fx set up in that case. If you add the effect you want to use to a Return channel, send each program to that return channel, then you’ll be able to export each program individually with the return fx applied. Submixes are better if you actually want to export a bunch of programs grouped as a stem, rather than exporting Multitracks. I hope that makes sense.
Interesting for stems and mixing. For production, this is not helping w seeing submixes as fx sends (delay, reverb, ...). Overall these two should be done w better routing, which is pretty basic in 2.0 (glad to have it though) and lack submix automation (not an issue in the way you approach it here). I suppose you are using 2 projects or something similar to do it all in standalone.
You wouldn’t use submixes as fx sends. You use them as insert fx channels. Totally different. My aim in the video however is to open people’s minds to the option of sending multiple samples from multiple programs to the same channel to process together. It’s an option. Not a necessity. There is no right or wrong.
Great useful video with no BS. Nice one. (And if you'd started your video with 'yo yo yo wassup. Hit subscribe and like...' it would get skipped! :-) Thank you.
can't wait for your 3.0 content!
Great to see you back, another superb tutorial, I still use your stock plug in mastering chain method.
Hey man, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It's good to be back.
Your videos are great, I’m glad you’re doing more MPC coverage
Thanks for watching mate 🙏🏼
I wish everyone explained things as clearly as you
Thanks for watching mate
Thanks I Learned So much from You:Greetings From Germany
Hey man, you are welcome, thank you for watching.
Thank you very much for your content, it seems like I'll have a binge of it.
Thanks for watching dude 🙏🏼
Found the concept of frequency related sub mixes really interesting. Definitely going to start using that technique. Thank you so much for sharing, great to see you again!
Hey man, thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Sub Mixes are a great way to start your mixing process. Taught me to stay organized and label everything!
Exactly
Exactly mate. I would be lost without them frankly.
LOL a cheat code when your track labelling is more than questionable.
@@TheCratesMotel My only complaint about sub mixes, NO SOLO button!!
@@manatee_flips6811 YESSSS!! I thought I was going nuts when I couldn’t find one.
Yes! Crates motel is back with MPC content!
Thanks for watching dude!!
King of MPC content on YT! Apparently submixes are very important to MPC 3.0 workflow. Possibly to the point of there not being enough of them.
Ah I did not know that. I look forward to taking the concept to the new OS. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment D.
He’s back! Learned so much from him.
Hey man thank you for watching.
yes conan
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Where have you been .The savior of MPC KNOWLEDGE glad to see a new video. Been trying to use your presets and edit them to learn more on my sonics and sound manipulation. Glad to have you back .
Hey dude thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thanks Conan! Always appreciate the info you share with the MPC.
My pleasure dude.
I miss you buddy l learn from your videos how to use the plugins in mpc thank you
Aww thanks for watching man. It’s a pleasure being part of this great community.
Yesss! Another great Conan video. I love using mix buses, but the layout of the mixer inside the MPC frustrates me sometimes when using submix buses. Patiently waiting for MPC3 which tackles that problem for me. Keep making these gems!!!
Yeh it’s definitely a workaround. I’m interested to see how 3.0 deals with it.
I always learn
That makes me happy mate
Thank you
Thanks for watching dude
I started using submixes for live jams to keep a standard template for use with my external MIDI controller but having done that it ended up as my default template.
That’s a great way to utilize subs!!
That’s by far the most usable content when it comes to use this Device for serious pre production or even production. I have to say that, sometimes I really don’t need to use much more processing than the mpc and Force offers. I had projects that feels like they sounding a lot thinner when being stemmed out to DAW. I also have noticed that i get a very different Waveform when export the Mixdown from mpc than i get with exporting unprocessed from DAW, so it should look the same in sum but i doesn’t. I’ve noticed that on the Force and the X SE. And I don’t have any normalisation turned on in my DAW.
I try and stay in the habit of having every track I bounce out to my DAW as close to -6db as I can, that way I have a reference point and I am used to how things sound at that level. By rights, when something is bounced out from the MPC it should be exactly the same in the DAW, but you are not the first person I have heard that says things sound different. There are quite a few differentials to take into account including interfaces, amps, converters etc, but fundamentally the file should be the same if there is no additional processing on it when it is bounced.
Been learning to use submixes recently and didnt knew about route , that makes it so much quicker. I was doing it sound for sound/track on the main screen.
There are always about ten different ways to do things in the MPC lol. Thanks for watching dude.
Fab to see another vid fromyou! I bet your excited for the MPC 3.0? Nice one Conan :)
Yeh man, I am looking forward to trying it out.
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Another really superb and confidence giving video.
As a very non pro producer and incredibly amateur musician starting to explore Sub Mixes I didn't really have the foggiest about how to use them but put kick on 1, snare on two & bass on another but that is as far as I got..... Its great to know I was kind of on the right track. I am a little confused about how sends now..... How would you commonly use sends & subs together or would you do one or the other??
What is also inspiring for me is that you are obvs a pro with experience with proper desks like SSL etc but you still choose to use an MPC.
I have had mine for a few years now but was starting to use it less, I wondered whether it was actually getting in the way for me. I have found that some elements of the workflow slow me down a lot & considered getting shot of it however, when I listen back to the blips & beats I have made I realise I much prefer the sound of the stuff I make on the MPC way more than stuff I do on the DAW so obviously decided to persevere.
I am well excited about the 3.0 software as it actually seems to address many of the things I struggled with....... Which is another reason I will hang on to it.
Many thanks again for your insight
You’re welcome mate. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Personally I use sub mixes as mix busses and the sends I will use for send effects like reverb etc.
Come back from work, loaded up MPC software and saw a new video from one of the most informative and humble content creators living. HAPPY DAYS.
Hi Conan, (hope this question makes sense) what's the difference between putting individual inserts on individual pads in a drum program and exploding a drum program and sending the separate tracks to the sub mixes for individual control. With the workflow you demonstrated is it for organisation and grouping frequencies together when mixing?
Hey buddy, thank you for your kind words. Regarding your question, there’s no right or wrong way to do things and nothing wrong with the method you described. It’s all about personal workflow and what works for you. I prefer to be one of those “UA-camrs” who inspires people to think out of the box rather than “My way is the right way etc”. I use this submix method of bussing in my mixes because it helps me keep things organized and can create more overall cohesion in a mix. Think of submixes as a broad stoke way of processing and the method you described as more surgical and exact. Both have their place.
Thank you for the advice.@@TheCratesMotel
This is super informative and helpful, thank you. My only hesitation to bouncing my submixes rather than individual stems for mixing in the DAW/for mix engineer, is if any of the individual elements, e.g. a loud vocal, quite synth etc needs rebalancing. Curious what you think of this, I guess in this case the best option is to make sure they are mixed right before bouncing! Less options for post though?
There’s no right or wrong really. With stems, yes you’d need to make sure they’re mixed down properly, but it’s more about making the decision on what to include in a stem. A pad and lead synth might seem like a good idea, but it’s not. It’s the same with a stem that has both lead vox and backing vox. Ultimately though, when I get sent stems, if I really need the multitracks instead, nowadays it’s not such a ballache for the artist to go back and bounce them. Some clients send stems and full multis.
@@TheCratesMotel thanks for the detailed reply!
Awesome Video. Love this way but what about referencing? I remember you using the sub mixer for referencing your mix and reference track. How can I use this way to reference my mix?
Hey buddy, I tend to put the reference track on an audio channel to be honest. Easier.
This is a good video. Will you be switching over to 3.0 once ot releases? I am looking forward to it, but I hear some people don't like the change. What do you think?
I haven’t used it yet. I’ll definitely be trying it out. I’m lucky that I have a One and a Live 2, so I’ll probably have 3.0 on one of them and keep 2.0 on the other. People generally don’t like change. The real issues will start when they release plugins that only work on 3.0.
@@TheCratesMotel 🤔😮🤯 3.0 compatible only plugins, I didn't even consider that!
@@Trioptic3D I don’t think anyone has. I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere by anybody.
Is there a way to bounce the submix and separate tracks within it? Or am I using submixes wrong? I created a submix and assigned 3 programs to it so I can add the same effect to all 3 programs at once, and now I want to export them as wavs separately but keep the effects on them. the usual exporting ways don’t seem to work for me. Anyone know?
@@hotpancakes9814 hey mate, I would suggest using a Return Fx set up in that case. If you add the effect you want to use to a Return channel, send each program to that return channel, then you’ll be able to export each program individually with the return fx applied. Submixes are better if you actually want to export a bunch of programs grouped as a stem, rather than exporting Multitracks. I hope that makes sense.
@ it does, thank you so much!!!
When you get a hold of 3.0 you're gonna have fun more DAW than ever... Very Reason 11 feel to 3.0
Yeh man, definitely looking forward to it
Interesting for stems and mixing.
For production, this is not helping w seeing submixes as fx sends (delay, reverb, ...).
Overall these two should be done w better routing, which is pretty basic in 2.0 (glad to have it though) and lack submix automation (not an issue in the way you approach it here).
I suppose you are using 2 projects or something similar to do it all in standalone.
You wouldn’t use submixes as fx sends. You use them as insert fx channels. Totally different. My aim in the video however is to open people’s minds to the option of sending multiple samples from multiple programs to the same channel to process together. It’s an option. Not a necessity. There is no right or wrong.
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Great useful video with no BS. Nice one. (And if you'd started your video with 'yo yo yo wassup. Hit subscribe and like...' it would get skipped! :-) Thank you.
Haha yeh that’s not my style.