NEW CARRY TIER LIST Patch 7.36B - Best Position 1 Heroes RANKED - Dota Meta 2 Guide

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  • @noctarem96
    @noctarem96 3 місяці тому +47

    What about Tiny that had been trending lately as Position 1

    • @adamfink8958
      @adamfink8958 3 місяці тому

      Tiny is okay but has much more success as a mid hero after the most recent patch

  • @Frapper
    @Frapper 3 місяці тому +100

    Tiny not being on this list is a crime

    • @imfinishedgrinding638
      @imfinishedgrinding638 3 місяці тому

      Speed forgor 💀

    • @imjustaguypassingthrough6260
      @imjustaguypassingthrough6260 3 місяці тому +2

      Tiny hit like a truck

    • @bowserfriend
      @bowserfriend 3 місяці тому

      Doesnt tiny have a 47-48% winrate as pos 1 rn?

    • @Manekriger
      @Manekriger 3 місяці тому +2

      @@bowserfriend so does WK tho and he's S tier

    • @Shah-jo1pr
      @Shah-jo1pr 3 місяці тому

      ​@@bowserfriendwhat's troll warlord win rate cuz I pretty much spam that hero went from arhon 2 to Devine 1 in 4 month like that

  • @KhairulAnwar-gi7fo
    @KhairulAnwar-gi7fo 3 місяці тому +10

    Highest LS hp was 1.2k hp from last hits and 120 denies.. not to mention the ability to start deny at 70% creep hp with healing

    • @-shingod-4818
      @-shingod-4818 3 місяці тому

      lol i thought it was bug, ls is a menace on laning stage with that 70% hp deny

    • @KhairulAnwar-gi7fo
      @KhairulAnwar-gi7fo 3 місяці тому

      @@-shingod-4818 ikr.. it'll distract the offlane to do something, and LS now definitely needs radiance to abuse the facet efficiently.. nvr tried the 2nd facet though, but it seems interesting for certain matchup against stunners and can stack with SnY

    • @unodelacruz3228
      @unodelacruz3228 3 місяці тому

      @@KhairulAnwar-gi7fo 2nd facet is trash even against stunners because you will still get 'mini-stunned' if they chainstun you.

  • @lazylonewolf
    @lazylonewolf 3 місяці тому +4

    Slark spammer, but I'm currently practicing Bloodseeker. Good to see they're both at least B.
    Loving the buffs for them especially for Slark. Barracuda is free "tangoes" pre-lvl 6👌
    Mainly doing Radiance+Ags+Bloodstone build on BS, it's great.
    About PL, you can control all the Divergence illusions after using Doppleganger, although I'm not sure if they get the damage buff from Divergence.

  • @samjerry2472
    @samjerry2472 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel like PA can be at a higher tier due to her innate evasive which you can get it at level 1 and the Blur facet that enable her to farm efficiently at a lower mana cost, which I will choose over the other facet. So far it has work well and realizing my mana is not depleting when I’m on blur when I haven’t got my battle fury or you can opt to skip BF and goes straight to items that enable PA to fight early on

  • @dermartler4500
    @dermartler4500 3 місяці тому +14

    Wr is also a good Carry herro now. I play her a lot in my 7k mmr games and have a 55% winnrate. The laning is just super free and the Scaling is also good

    • @Jigoku_No_Iru
      @Jigoku_No_Iru 3 місяці тому +1

      Very agree, Im also spamming her in 5k, the best part is the "almost free" lanes.

    • @ryanleoen2142
      @ryanleoen2142 3 місяці тому +1

      Yup I got a 70% wr, 94% in the last week on this hero pair it with abandon and it’s nearly unstoppable

    • @shinmanalo3800
      @shinmanalo3800 3 місяці тому

      @dermartler4500 what is ur facet and what are ur builds. Thankss in advance

    • @shinmanalo3800
      @shinmanalo3800 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ryanleoen2142 What facet do u choose and build

    • @dermartler4500
      @dermartler4500 3 місяці тому

      @@shinmanalo3800 I always go for the first facet. My items are double bracer ,want treats, gleipnir and then depending on the game i go linkens,bkb or pike you can also buy all these items if needed and then always deadalus

  • @goooys4173
    @goooys4173 3 місяці тому

    From legend to divine I only use two heroes(carry) . Sf and Muerta. I switch to Magic sf when i got team up physical mid midlaner and physical sf when magic mid midlaner. Muerta can do magic and physical. You can exchange muerta to drow or sniper.

    • @HasiburRahim
      @HasiburRahim 3 місяці тому

      that's cool gonna try that

  • @KillerInstinct1
    @KillerInstinct1 3 місяці тому +2

    If i had to pick one carry to play this patch it would be WK, the hero is just reliable and strong

  • @jeanweizerallapitan2098
    @jeanweizerallapitan2098 3 місяці тому +4

    hey speed. so where does tiny fall

  • @seowth
    @seowth 3 місяці тому +2

    11:03 "Her facet Engorge grants Medusa based on how much mana she stole"... so Medusa can get another Medusa?

  • @SekaiNewW7
    @SekaiNewW7 3 місяці тому +2

    I play Luna, currently at 5k, I still win pretty easily, if I can't lane(usually coz a not pos5 hero), I can recocer mean while if i play weaver which I'm a decent/good player, rly hard to recover having a bad pos5

    • @kylemac8672
      @kylemac8672 3 місяці тому

      What's your luna build and strategy.I'm struggling with her at 2k

    • @Jigoku_No_Iru
      @Jigoku_No_Iru 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kylemac8672I would go standard madness, dragon lance, manta into pike bkb khanda, maxing out the glaives after the lunar blessing, keep in mind this hero is a high farming hero so you can never stop doing that, is crucial you use non stop your manta to farm creepwaves while you farm ancients or so. Despite your personal wr you will find the hero very easy sooner or later.

    • @knkaitlog
      @knkaitlog 3 місяці тому +1

      luna is mega flash farmer type, just needs a strong laning support to get her through the first 6 minutes so she can avoid fights and jungle until midgame
      squishy af and dies to the tanky boy offlaners

  • @APAKane
    @APAKane 3 місяці тому +1

    Heads up: the twitter link in the description is broken

  • @dabi156
    @dabi156 3 місяці тому

    I think you should put Lycan on it but pack leader should be the FACET I reach 6k using lycan 19-1standing matches, and he can 2 hits ancient can farm very well can get free ASSIST in night time and have -10 armor reduction over all, and can 1 hit support atk speed is so crazy that even most carries cant handle Lycan and also +5 sec duration every kill.

    • @monkey3101
      @monkey3101 2 місяці тому

      They can kill lycan later into the game he doesn’t scalentht well

  • @bazadogpolce997
    @bazadogpolce997 3 місяці тому

    Honestly, yes life stealer is a very good carry right now , but before the big patch , he was way better imo , he had a way better open wounds that spread , a way better laning with max feast lvl 7 and better numbers on feast rather then lvl 18 , he had enemy slow with ghoul before which is arguably better then mvnt speed on lane , I'd say life stealer became a 400 hp tanky but with worst life steal in lane and in game , Just compare old life stealer to the new one , I'd say that people underestimated him before , it's not like 2 extra hp makes a difference min 15 with extra 200 hp , I'd rather have a max feast with more dmg .

  • @viktor642
    @viktor642 3 місяці тому

    Would be interesting to bring back guess the rank once in a while, like once a month or something like that. It was always an interesting series

  • @MusicBertrand
    @MusicBertrand 3 місяці тому +1

    what about WR pos 1 that's been trending in the pro scene?

  • @Michael-ie5mw
    @Michael-ie5mw 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video - Thoughts on Tiny and Lycan?

  • @mir3s
    @mir3s 3 місяці тому

    pl facet with random illusion never works on turbo games tho :D its better to control them and send to supports

  • @MegaTuron117
    @MegaTuron117 3 місяці тому

    That random rapier on the venomancer 21:43. Might have occured on turbo.

  • @senditcody3130
    @senditcody3130 3 місяці тому

    Speed I was watching your games for ti. I seen the loss in the bracket. Does that mean thats it for you this year? I was hoping youd go all the way man you deserve it

  • @Laudandus
    @Laudandus 3 місяці тому +2

    AM is bad because the mana thirst facet scales with ult and doesn't exist until 6. I thought it would be good for lane but it doesn't work in lane

  • @ragberkotobuki41
    @ragberkotobuki41 3 місяці тому

    Speed, can you please look at the 9Pandas vs Night Pulse - TI13 Regional Qualifiers Eastern Europe 1st game?? This is ABSOLUTELY INSANE. I would really like to see your opinion on Night Pulse`s draft and gameplay, this is an amazing game for innovative players, 3 carry heroes vs like of Solo and kiyotaka. My brother, I am just impressed and my 4 k a$$ can`t comprehend this game properly

  • @leojack5432
    @leojack5432 3 місяці тому +2

    tiny is great too

  • @muhammadrasyidridhoni6023
    @muhammadrasyidridhoni6023 3 місяці тому +3

    No mention on lycan?

    • @R4LDD
      @R4LDD 3 місяці тому

      He good in offlane

    • @knkaitlog
      @knkaitlog 3 місяці тому

      only good if you have deathball teammates. otherwise, falls off and becomes a splitpusher/support killer lategame, cant solo fight enemy carry after 4th item

  • @deelmeermartin8338
    @deelmeermartin8338 3 місяці тому +1

    Tierlist for midlaners pls😢

  • @jpaquino99
    @jpaquino99 3 місяці тому +4

    Where is underlond carry? You should see gorgc’s newest videos

    • @shapeshifter7676
      @shapeshifter7676 3 місяці тому +1

      It's horrible and gimmicky. it might work once out of 10 times. and it's absolutely not worth it

    • @sonitgorla4125
      @sonitgorla4125 3 місяці тому

      Just because you don't know how strong it is , don't talk nonsense ​@@shapeshifter7676

  • @seeker530
    @seeker530 3 місяці тому

    Last letter patch was pretty close to balanced i wish they can achieve this with the new changes or atleast make the broken ones significantly harded to play atleast, this patch is decided 80 percent in the draft stage in favor of whoever has more broken heroes

  • @DeeonGrey
    @DeeonGrey 3 місяці тому

    You missed tiny, what tier would he be in?

  • @Phike9391
    @Phike9391 3 місяці тому +1

    As a Troll spammer who recently just had a 11 win streak with him, I've had some of my worst games as Troll since the update. The update did help him but nothing too good either. Wish they did a little more with his facets. Maybe of brought the bash back in some way.

  • @frankiebaby1783
    @frankiebaby1783 3 місяці тому +1

    There are not many smurfs? 8/10 games have at least 2 smurfs dominating the map

  • @mikebrownphotography2784
    @mikebrownphotography2784 3 місяці тому

    It is crazy how many players completely ignore the meta and patch updates and just play their same heroes... even after bad nerfs

  • @kolbyhunt4434
    @kolbyhunt4434 3 місяці тому

    There are not many smurfs but you only need one in 10 people to have one in every game or one in 30 to have one every third game. If every third or forth game you are getting stomped by some guy with 100 games it kind of sucks

  • @Group-jj6yk
    @Group-jj6yk 3 місяці тому

    Where is alch and tiny in your list brother? Did you forget those heroes?

  • @dave8478
    @dave8478 3 місяці тому +5

    Windranger should be A or B tier

  • @sammyjenkis5260
    @sammyjenkis5260 3 місяці тому

    Where is silencer?

  • @drcpieisgood999
    @drcpieisgood999 3 місяці тому +6

    No wind no tiny weaver and ta worse than wraith king??? Throw the whole list away 😂

  • @NormanDulay25
    @NormanDulay25 2 місяці тому

    Pa is strong now though. An early blur

  • @zaynali9923
    @zaynali9923 3 місяці тому

    Medusa is terrible, 2-3 items to be even viable which means passive farm for 30 mins and in this patch people just run at you and hero can't do shit once ult is used. 'There's a reason nobody picks the hero in pro scene'

  • @Mopettaja
    @Mopettaja 3 місяці тому

    What about ember? He's not really a carry atm but he is better than the worst heroes on this list

  • @Harrison-vt2gt
    @Harrison-vt2gt 3 місяці тому +1

    ur content is very good, but please try to slow down ur sentences, u pause then u shoot out 10 words in 1 second then u pause again. better just speak slower and with a constant flow. I am a native english speaker and sometimes have issues understanding ur pronunciation. go check ur lifestealer explanation in this clip. there its most noticable.
    this is constructive feedback because besides this ur content is very high level.

    • @victorpey9680
      @victorpey9680 3 місяці тому +1

      look at his name, he won't slow down

  • @DjVylex
    @DjVylex 3 місяці тому

    why exactly PA E tier, and so bad in your op? in random matches sometimes PA just stomps everyone

  • @ryanfrizz
    @ryanfrizz 3 місяці тому

    Always wondered why you refer to all hero’s as “it” even when most of the hero’s are he’s and she’s

  • @kerbychristian6959
    @kerbychristian6959 3 місяці тому

    Why my lycan isn't here?

  • @AllenDiese3
    @AllenDiese3 3 місяці тому

    Silencer and Tiny are really good aswell ^^

  • @arielsantiago9858
    @arielsantiago9858 3 місяці тому

    Wow this support tier list are great!

  • @sujithmon4760
    @sujithmon4760 3 місяці тому

    Legion commander axe and sladar are night mares of carry players

  • @namachi1445
    @namachi1445 2 місяці тому

    Is that a divine in 22min lol 21:30

  • @BlueFlash215
    @BlueFlash215 3 місяці тому

    Watching the qualifiers I feel like on a professional level this list doesn't apply. It most probably does for low immortal or divine and below.

  • @bloodseeker2793
    @bloodseeker2793 3 місяці тому

    Where is tiny ?

  • @josephdiscavage2709
    @josephdiscavage2709 3 місяці тому +1

    It’s crazy how bad PA has always been despite how much she scales in the last few years

    • @imfinishedgrinding638
      @imfinishedgrinding638 3 місяці тому

      Hasn't been the same ever since they removed the lifesteal from her Phantom Strike. I mean her numbers when she still had it were too good but it effectively fixed her sustain issues and freed up one item slot for her in the late game(not need Satanic when it still had lifesteal).

  • @jxinsiow166
    @jxinsiow166 3 місяці тому

    where’s tinyyyyy speeeed

  • @navidaghajani3069
    @navidaghajani3069 3 місяці тому

    You missed tiny speed
    I like it on S tier carry
    He hits so bad and never dies

  • @HasiburRahim
    @HasiburRahim 3 місяці тому

    you missed lycan

  • @sunawansunawan655
    @sunawansunawan655 3 місяці тому

    How about tiny?

  • @ChickenandPunpun
    @ChickenandPunpun 3 місяці тому

    I believe in brood mother's innate and facets this patch

  • @welveslaetoliveira3959
    @welveslaetoliveira3959 3 місяці тому

    "S Tier heroes no one picks", this should be the name...

  • @miloskovacevic5181
    @miloskovacevic5181 3 місяці тому

    Tiny is minimum B tier carry in my opinion.

  • @dyey9471
    @dyey9471 3 місяці тому

    My god where is Tiny

  • @banlamjingshaiwahlang4168
    @banlamjingshaiwahlang4168 3 місяці тому

    Meanwhile miracle owning with morph

  • @dalybor967
    @dalybor967 3 місяці тому

    where is windranger

  • @matiaspatricioandressaez2425
    @matiaspatricioandressaez2425 3 місяці тому

    Silencer ?

  • @alinawaz4034
    @alinawaz4034 3 місяці тому

    PA is not E. she is at least A. she still destroys pubs and her nukes are too much.

  • @sittkukk8278
    @sittkukk8278 3 місяці тому +2

    Lifestealer bein meta for way too long. Boring af.

    • @seeker530
      @seeker530 3 місяці тому +1

      Yea boring to play and play against.

  • @NoForgiveness
    @NoForgiveness 3 місяці тому

    medusa is forgotten

  • @SM-yf8xt
    @SM-yf8xt 3 місяці тому

    where underlord

  • @JuanM-ck4jg
    @JuanM-ck4jg 3 місяці тому

    Dark seer is very strong at 1

  • @niklassmm
    @niklassmm 3 місяці тому

    people are sleeping on UNDERLORD carry - he farms like a beast with cleave facit, strong laner and can afk farm, join good teamfights with ulti - just a matter of time before we will see it more

    • @ezravldina3467
      @ezravldina3467 3 місяці тому

      They are really not. Even his other facet is better and have a better win rate

    • @Raxio_ional
      @Raxio_ional 3 місяці тому

      Played underlord 5-6 matches cuz of facet.The hero isn't good enough of carry. laning is strong, but he starts to fall off from mid game compared to other Hard carries.

  • @ErwinBryan22
    @ErwinBryan22 3 місяці тому

    This tier list doesn't apply to SEA

  • @Sinarsss
    @Sinarsss 3 місяці тому

    Terrorblade need hes sunder pierce ability back not this stupid sunder facet XD , or just give him the metamorph range talent back . Hero have been dead for almost 2 years now

  • @Raxio_ional
    @Raxio_ional 3 місяці тому

    "Hero is HARD. D/E Tier" L take. Hard to play doesn't mean they don't scale. This tier list is for heralds trying to climb 2-3k at best. And you forgot Tiny and wr who are popular in po1rn.

    • @koyamogodztv14
      @koyamogodztv14 3 місяці тому

      Idiot....every hero can work with a better skilled player. That's not the point. It's the effort vs reward. Why would you invest the time and effort to play a meepo when he can be out damaged and out scaled by a sven. That's the point.

  • @mozinha
    @mozinha 3 місяці тому

    Herald post

  • @johnlombard6182
    @johnlombard6182 3 місяці тому

    Fire ❤

  • @aidynski4669
    @aidynski4669 3 місяці тому

    Tiny?

  • @Biit88121
    @Biit88121 3 місяці тому

    Aaaaaaaaaa another manaboots Medusa…. How ???? Why??? Whaaaaat???? Braindead meta these days

  • @Drishby
    @Drishby 3 місяці тому

    No Lycan lol

    • @adamfink8958
      @adamfink8958 3 місяці тому +1

      Pretty bad hero rn and mostly offlane

  • @MrFreaklon
    @MrFreaklon 3 місяці тому

    I dont see Dark Seer carry, I dont upvote.

  • @t4ntrumtf2
    @t4ntrumtf2 3 місяці тому

    Lifestealer is really so broken at the moment, I hope they fix the hero soon..

  • @toxicdota9290
    @toxicdota9290 3 місяці тому +1

    Spectre is a bad laner? I dare you to lane against her granted she's taken Forsaken as Facet!

    • @Jigoku_No_Iru
      @Jigoku_No_Iru 3 місяці тому +1

      Nonsense, for Forsaken to do decent damage in lane you must max out Desolate which means your dagger is weak and you dont block any damage, during lane stage spells are way stronger than any passive skill, I dare you to try trading with mini Desolate vs a couple of heroes who are throwing spells at you.

  • @roxombplaysroblox8511
    @roxombplaysroblox8511 3 місяці тому

    u can controll pl illu bro XD

  • @samourtr
    @samourtr 3 місяці тому

    He has no idea what he is talking about

  • @Wraithhhdota
    @Wraithhhdota 3 місяці тому

    1st BROOOOOOOKEN

  • @cjcabrera2104
    @cjcabrera2104 3 місяці тому

    1st

  • @LoGaL1000
    @LoGaL1000 3 місяці тому

    report for suggesting pudge carry. We alrdy have the lion meme build infesting pubs

  • @thomasp8904
    @thomasp8904 3 місяці тому

    That not that many Smurf comment was crazy. Admittedly, it’s been better lately thank god but I seriously have a Smurf every other game in legend and archon bracket. It’s usually the enemy team in a party because I have my own party but sometimes they play solo on my team too. There really are that many smurfs in this game

  • @I_play_io_cause_he_cute
    @I_play_io_cause_he_cute 3 місяці тому +102

    Day 30 of asking speed to play position 1 Io

    • @kissofdeath2289
      @kissofdeath2289 3 місяці тому +2

      Upvote this guy, he here for 30 days

    • @thatonezerk6977
      @thatonezerk6977 3 місяці тому

      Pay for the website then he got u

    • @mmortal8183
      @mmortal8183 3 місяці тому

      Only after he plays Pos 1 SD or Dazzle.

    • @tectonicgaming5703
      @tectonicgaming5703 3 місяці тому

      he already played it and has videos of it

    • @I_play_io_cause_he_cute
      @I_play_io_cause_he_cute 3 місяці тому +2

      @@tectonicgaming5703 but that’s when Io pos 1 played around the high spirit damage talent. New pos 1 Io plays around tether slow and right clicks.

  • @JohnKolibab
    @JohnKolibab 3 місяці тому +13

    Bro, the team in the Bristleback game at 5:02 is just a bunch of big beefy boys and looks so awful to play against

    • @viktor642
      @viktor642 3 місяці тому

      They rarely end up having any farm, so you win like 80% of the time, but the 20% you lose, it feels like rape, there's no right target priority, nothing. If your carry or mid is trash, you ain't got no chance

  • @RandomCommenter955
    @RandomCommenter955 3 місяці тому +3

    Spectre is a girl btw

  • @Drizzle52693
    @Drizzle52693 3 місяці тому +1

    Meh this feels outdated. Feels like you’re not accounting for the recent updates

  • @stevenkurniawan6521
    @stevenkurniawan6521 3 місяці тому +1

    Damn... Most of my carry hero is below C tier

  • @chachka1
    @chachka1 3 місяці тому +1

    ck is S tier currently 100%, if you see pro scenes they always ban or pick this hero.

  • @mrman3522
    @mrman3522 3 місяці тому +1

    No tiny?

  • @Evdota247
    @Evdota247 3 місяці тому +1

    thanks allot for all these videos speed you became a cool part of my life from years

  • @EugenioGastelum
    @EugenioGastelum 3 місяці тому

    Congrats on taking a bath, we need to keep the gaming community proud.

  • @ArtemLeshchikov
    @ArtemLeshchikov 2 місяці тому

    Whatever you are taking when you are making theese videos, give me some of that. I have a very strong feeling that there is a lot of personal bias. Also what do you mean too hard to play? Play where on 300 mmr or smth? Specify your audience then. You dont really go into details, but its rather your opinion and many points on here are very arguable.

  • @trackingcalin1988
    @trackingcalin1988 Місяць тому

    Spectre can kill all the carriers 1 vs 9999999999999999999

  • @sauceboss4895
    @sauceboss4895 3 місяці тому

    Spectre is F tier. Complete dumpster hero, always gets kicked out of the lane, and Lifestealer counters her hard. PA is still viable, it’s more B or C tier

  • @weed_houze
    @weed_houze 3 місяці тому

    7:18 bro all you have to do is check their dota profile lvl. If it's 40 or below defiantly smurf/accbuyer. There a LOT OF THEM. Stop the cope

  • @Zimped
    @Zimped 3 місяці тому

    Turbo is the only mode I've played for 3 years now. Wish they would have ranked

  • @thesanttu5359
    @thesanttu5359 3 місяці тому +1

    Did you forget about Tiny?

  • @laminanamuh8310
    @laminanamuh8310 3 місяці тому

    lol PA so GREAT with Methodical passive to farm